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You would help a sweet little girl, wouldn't you /v/?
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>>741718502
>another botw-like
The gaming industry is creatively bankrupt
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>another game where you can't create a loli character
TRASH
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>>741718502
Only if she rewards me with handholding and being a headpat receiver.
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>>741718619
It's not even a game, it's a VN
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>>741718839
She rewards you with XP and items and seems to be set up as a recurring character.
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So this is a singleplayer game that just *looks* like gachaslop? I can't decide if that makes me want to play it more because it's not gacha, or if it makes me want to play it less because it's just repurposed slop instead of built to be singleplayer from the ground up.
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>>741719419
Then I'm not interested, unless several of those items are her freshly used undergarments.
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>>741719921
Its a repurposed gacha. You don't level up normally, you level up by using items that you earn / are given to you over time.

Graphics and characters look good, gameplay is awful (HP bloat, your characters do low damage even after leveling up 20 times, menus are a nightmare, etc).
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>>741720552
>your characters do low damage even after leveling up 20 times
Did you upgrade your equipment and skills as well as leveling up? My damage went way up after I did that.
>menus are a nightmare
Devs said they are improving menus for launch version
They are actually responding to suggestions and bug reports in their discord
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>>741720552
>gameplay is awful (HP bloat, your characters do low damage even after leveling up 20 times, menus are a nightmare, etc
Thanks anon, you save me from wasting time on the demo
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>MC is a non customizable male
Brave of them. That must be why the usual pronoun freak crowd is conspicuously missing from the discord
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>>741721615
The only playable character I had any success with in the demo was the scythe lady with the big dress and that is only because her one move is essentially a 3 hit "instant kill on a trash mob" attack. Otherwise, enjoy your HP sponges.

I will give credit where credit is due - the demo just lets you do whatever the fuck you want. Once the simple tutorial is over and they expect you to talk to the guild leader or whatever you can just turn your ass around, leave the city and explore wherever you want, so that was nice. Again, this is a nice looking game (once I turned off framegen as it was going NUTS on my CPU / card) and I wanted to like it but all signs point to bland world and extremely grindy / repetitive combat and not much else.
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>>741721852
picked up
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>>741722163
Upgrade your armor and skills
Weapon upgrades are disabled in the demo
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Lolis confirmed
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How will it survive without gacha?
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>>741721852
picked up (unless hes a twink
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>>741729695
It has the DNA of a Korean MMO so he starts as an androgynous kid and awakens into a cash shop whale.
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>>741731293
Whew. Link to that video?
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>>741731293
>The name's Card. Visa Card
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>>741729695
He looks like Link.
And can turn into Sephiroth apparently >>741731293
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>>741732356
i want to fuck him i can see him getting massive sissy art so that's a good thing shant play though
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>>741732724
You might be gay bro.
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korea and chine need to release more offline games, thank god for stellar blade and ananta
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>>741733847
This game is korean and offline.
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>>741731293
design is a little too korean for my taste but a mc that mans up is fucking based
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Demo was extended to the 7th
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>>741731730
It's in the demo files so there's no link. I don't know Korean and the mobile version was only up for like 2 weeks, making it hard to find out how much was in there.
>>741733847
Ananta is not an offline game.
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>>741739876
>in the demo files
Where? I'm looking...
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>>741718619
Always was. Or did all the WoW clones not clue you in two decades ago?
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I’m becoming a content creator partner for this game (making 4chan posts and not getting paid)
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>>741726545
UOH
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>>741718502
played the demo, this game is boring beyond belief and has all the game dev red flags
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>>741728839
Apparently it still is a gacha in Korea.
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>>741732356
Hang on this is a girl I know that pose
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>>741747515
Can you play a game for more than fucking 7 minutes
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>playing through this and Seven deadly sins
>both are good

Is it just time to admit that gacha games are the future of the industry (at least until Nintendo make the next Zelda)
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>>741748002
It's not gacha bro. What do you mean?
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>>741718502
id help myself, iykwim
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>>741748991
She's a bitch
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>>741748067
If it has level up books in game it’s a gacha, and that’s a good thing.
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>>741720552
Ugh I just want an offline non gacha Genshit WHY IS IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE FAGGOTS TO MAKE IT
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>>741718502
>jrpgs trying their best to not bring the worst posters and OPs on the site together over an 8/10 game

I know, instead of making a thread about a game, I’ll make it about the Lols in the game!

This is like that faggot that jumped on Wuthering Waves. Actually it’s probably the same dude.
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>>741750214
Hmm...aren't there XP books/skill books/spell books in many RPGs?
Off the top of my head GW2 and Dragon Age: Origins have them and that's just what from what I've played in the past year
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>>741751016
We can talk about the adult women too.
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>>741720552
>You don't level up normally, you level up by using items that you earn / are given to you over time.
This was the worst part of the demo, one holdover from the gacha that should absolutely be removed.
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>>741751795
I love korean sluts
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>>741718502
I really enjoyed the demo. Obviously it was originally intended to be a gacha title, but them pivoting from gacha to singleplayer buy-to-play is a massive improvement. Not being cucked by FOMO or spending massive dollarinos on shit is a huge bonus, and the gameplay is fun. Only downside is that the voice acting is KR only (for now).
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I will now play your game
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>>741718502
>start walking
>ice skates
>immediately uninstall
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What do the dragons nest fans think of the game
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>>741755775
sex
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I really think it needs a lock on and sidestep dodge.

Maybe I’m wrong there and it goes against the spirit of the original, but I’ve been conditioned to that sort of control scheme when the camera is that close and semi over the shoulder from Bloodborne and God of War.

I did notice that the ranged characters have the originals same control scheme.
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>>741755775
It's nothing like OG Dragon Nest, besides some characters having some moves/skills from it (The MC is kinda like a Crusader/Inquisitor, elf girl is a Barbarian, big titty spear nun is basically an Inquisitor).

The combat is completely different. You're better off treating it like a Genshin clone that you can play without being cucked by mobile game time gating bullshit.
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>>741758479
Lock on is being added.
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Mihomo fans seething. They need to have swimsuits for all characters though.
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>>741758479
lock on is retarded fuck you
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is there more to the combat than 1 skill 1 ultimate 1 combo per character and then a generous iframe dodge/parry?

i haven't played the game but every modern action gacha is like this and it renders them automatically dogshit.
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>>741758964
The combat in this is based around each character's skill set having specific effects tied to it (eg. bleed, knockdown, aerial) and each character has skills that tie into the activation of those effects. So you would have one character that inflicts bleed, and another character who procs a skill when an enemy is inflicted with bleed who then inflicts knockdown with their skills, and another character who procs on knockdown to inflict aerial, and so on. On a base level it's similar to Wuwa's character switching attacks but there's more focus on ailments and conditional skills.
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>>741758964
In the demo each character has multiple skills plus combo stuff as >>741759142 said.
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That's a lot of girls.
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>huge thighs and big tits character named Ryza
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>>741759142
what you describe sounds like Endfield combat (use skill to inflict knockdown, switch to character and use skill that inflicts bonus damage in character is downed, etc) which is absolute bog standard action gacha combat right now.

>>741759343
so it's TWO skills? Well at least it's not 1...
Granblue Relink has 4 skills and other base attacks and even those characters feel too simplistic.

mobile was a mistake
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>>741759548
>what you describe sounds like Endfield combat (use skill to inflict knockdown, switch to character and use skill that inflicts bonus damage in character is downed, etc) which is absolute bog standard action gacha combat right now.
I haven't played Endfield but it could be. But compared to the gachas I have played the combat actually feels good here which is more important than the detailed mechanics of it; combat has a sense of weight to the swings and you send enemies flying with strong impacts, as opposed to most gachas just being flashy rapid flailing that enemies barely react to at all interspersed by time-pausing ultimate animations every ten seconds.
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Why did it have to be swapslop...
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it's crazy how much better koreans are in character design than chinks
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>>741759760
many such cases
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Castella does so much more damage than Lute it's ridiculous. Switching to her with the combo trigger is like setting off a bomb. (No offense to Aria) I think I must have fucked something up leveling their skills, or else I'm supposed to be using Lute for healing or something.
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>>741759548
>>741760072
You have this times 3 characters and switching has a 3 second cooldown.
So if you want you can think of it as having 3 basic attacks, 6 active skills, 6 signal skills, etc.
Or, if you don't like the swapping mechanic then it doesn't matter I suppose. Personally I haven't played a game with it before and I'm enjoying it.
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>>741751732
They are, although rare. It's only really a gacha thing if you're given a near infinite supply to max out anyone, or grinding without them would kill a person of old age before maxing out.
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>>741759505
>Logan
Finally, a man
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>>741758935
If the camera was further back and attack combos pushed the player forward, then I don’t care for lockon (DMC).

Here the camera is way too close, and while there is a soft lock on already, the actual issue is rolling to the side reorients the character’s forward facing axis. >>741758964
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>>741759142
I feels more like Relink. Those aerial attacks with the main character feel very similar.
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>>741759710
Trust, the swapslop works here because it integrates into combos.
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>>741760072
So what’s triggering signal skills
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>>741753098
What team did you use?
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>>741758880
yummy
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>>741761441
most swapslop have optimal swap combos
e.g. you use character A's skills so when you swap to character B their skills do bonus damage/effects then character C gets bonuses from B's effects and then you're back to character A who is buffed from character C.

this is how they all work
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After playing how many action gacha, I feel like this game and Punishing Grey Raven are the only games with a good character combat system.

What I mean is that other games have great bosses and character visual movesets, but these two are ones where the boss could be a rock that doesn’t move and everything would still work, whereas other action games NEED to have the well designed boss.
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I'll play it for the big tiddy characters like scythe nun and booba sword girl
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>>741759505
are these roadmaps paid DLC?
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>>741761789
>All playable heroes and core content are obtainable through gameplay alone.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/4570720/view/679626346618422596?l=english
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>>741761970
even the roadmap stuff that releases after the game is out?
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I hope the game doesn't penalize you for not leveling up the twink MC because I only want to play the characters with the biggest milkers
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>>741761990
Yes, the only paid DLC is supposed to be costumes and familiars.
Full roadmap post: https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/4570720/view/678501715215911876?l=english
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>>741762138
nice, is it true the game only costs 30 bux?
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>>741762262
Yes
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It seems too good to be true.
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It’ll be a very interesting game to follow, business-wise.

Of course as much as everyone wants to deny it, people secretly love gacha systems and pull rarities.
But if this game gets a narrative end endgame foothold, I wonder how/if they’ll continue to monetise it. I’d happily pay for expansions of it meant everything unlocked on day 1, but only if the quality is above the competition, which is very hard in places.
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>>741759343
>sofia the first
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I really like Genshin’s grind EXCEPT gathering materials for upgrades. It always boils down to waypoint to a point and walking over to mushrooms.
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>>741764598
I dunno if I prefer set spawn points for mats or random places. One makes picking flowers like a chore, the other is unreliable.
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Is Dragon Nest worth playing? I went through PSO2 a few months back and that was actually a lot of fun. Good story too.
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>>741762138
>Q. Does the story conclude in the base game, or is a purchase needed later?
In the base game (Part 1), the mercenary crew's coming-of-age story reaches a conclusion. >The untold story of Lute and the kingdom will be provided through future updates, though the format is still undecided.
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>>741732356
I legit thought he was a girl for a good while
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>>741732356
>NOOOO WHY WONT IT LET ME CHOOSE MY GENDER

Thank fucking god. Now we can have an actual story. Not one where every sex flirts with the MC and there are zero gender writing
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I liked the demo exploration, character designs and visuals but the combat and movement felt bad. Enemies had too much hp and I don't like swap combat.
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>>741759505
>scars
Well, well...someone is finally getting a clue. I still won't be playing this though.
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>>741718502
I would bring her sheep back if you know what i mean
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>>741773561
everyone will still spend 99% of their time flirting with the MC. Probably even more since its male only
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>>741755775
It's Garbage.
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>>741773561
those aren't mutually exclusive
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I'd probably get it. It's only $30.
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I really like it.

Then it hit me. Maybe I’m just addicted to gacha games and I can’t tell the quality of games anymore unless it has breath of the wild climbing and Bayonetta’s witch time dodge.
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>>741737350
>Infinite space
Such a kino game
Too bad platinum went on to make only action slop afterwards
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>>741741197
\DS\Content\Movies\3d_cutscene\Mobile\world01_Mobile
If you don't know how to open .pak files, get to googlin'

>>741779442
I think there's just an unfulfilled niche of gacha-style grinding in offline games. There's often a lot of potential fun stuff to do in these worlds and games, but the restrictions are so extreme unless you're paying $2000 a month to max out everything, and most games won't even have content scaled to how retardedly powerful you are if you do that. It's not really that different from people making heavily customized pservers or solo mods for MMOs.
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>>741780456
I actually find it the opposite, that I never have the need to even do the gacha in these games so I do it lightly almost like I’m tipping the devs.

The biggest pain point of gacha actually isn’t the microtransactions, it’s that characters are tied to it, and the constant need for new ones hurts the narrative.

I only know of 1999 getting around this, so it’ll be interesting to see what Dragonsword does here. Can an offline MMO be done? The immediate updates will look like a gacha 1.0 release anyway, so we’ll see in two years. Will probably end up like Warframe.
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>no day 1 PS5 release
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>>741718502
Why couldn't they just make another mmo?
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>>741780456
I don't care about grind, I just want a Genshin-like without chinkshit. Mondstadt was fine, and Liyue too for a while, but the chinawank got insufferable.
I liked earlier exploration up to Sumeru but there were several elements that made me drop it. This fixes most of them, I already like the designs and personalities way more, and there's actual fan service with visible panties. Didn't bother exploring in the demo, want to save the content for the full game. If it's good then I'll be more than satisfied with my purchase.
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>>741759461
Which one is Laser Mage?
Was my favorite in DN.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c84ChNDow

good vid explaining why the combat works
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only on PC for now, right?
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>>741718502
Is nice game, also you can play it offline. Have fun,
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I smell a general for this game in another month. Not many games these days impress me from the get go.

That combat is really solid. The aerial juggling and the combo character swapping. Here’s hoping the story gets good.
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>>741718502
As long as she pays me.
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>>741782607
Why would you want that?
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>>741782972
Yes, they said they will work on console release as soon as PC release is done.



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