We demand signs of life
>>741728886He's dead, Jim.
Who the fuck is we nigga?? Splintercell sucks, stealth games suck, tactikool shooters suck, and you suck too.
>>7417291055th freedom on this anon
>>741729105>zoomergroid with dogshit opinion #5465445
>>741729078Deader than Elvis.
>>741728886>tease a new game>don't make onethis is just like when they put that movie teaser in Chaos Theory.
>>741728886I wanted a Chaos Theory remake...
>>741728886The series already got raped by 3 bad games in a row, we don't need a demake
>>741729803blacklist and da were goodnot as good but nowhere near bad games
>>741729889Blacklist was fucking SHIT and I'm tired of cucks who still try to pretend otherwise.It doesn't even have a JUMP, not to mention the iconic split jump or pretty much half the manual actions you could do in the old games like picking up bottles.It's a gay assassins creed reskin.
>>741729376>zoooooooooooomer zooomer zooomerthis is like a nigger blaming whitey out of no where for something
>>741730202Splinter Cell isn't a tactical shooter, zoomie, it's a pure stealth game. the shooting is frustrating at best and counterproductive at worst. and stealth games don't fucking suck, nobody knows how to make them anymore so you've never played a good one.
>>741730496I wasn't even the person you replied to, faggot.Why do you like to derail every fucking thread to be about zoomers? I saw this happen in a Resident Evil thread a few days ago and it was flooded with autists like you just randomly whining. Like are you gay or something?
>>741730110you do way more climbing and jumping in blacklist, to a detriment evenyou didn't play the game
>>741730904I did sadly. Everything is automatic by just pressing the parcour button like in the later ass creed games and it's filled with shitty forced action segments.
>>741730496>ZOOMER ZOOMIE ZOOMZOOMZOOM EVERYONE IS YOUNGER THAN ME NO ONE MY AGE WOULD EVER THINK I HAVE DOGSHIT TASTEYou're so pathetic it's unreal. Being in my mid 30s the most painful thing about it is seeing embarrassing faggots like you harp on about how GOOD games were back then. Stealth games are dogshit, period. "Gameplay" about sneaking around is the most painfully boring thing imaginable. I remember buying Chaos Theory then trading it in a week later for God Of War. >I..it's not tactical No shit my original post implication was about everything gamewise with the Tom Clancy label. That goes for Rainbow Six/G.R.A.W. and even modern iterations like The Division. It's a raped genre that has nothing of value to offer to any actual gamer. Consider suicide, the earlier millennials die out the better the industry will be.
>>741728886Nobody at Ubisoft actually wants to make a new Splinter Cell
>>741730872Why are you so emotional over this? Not the guy you're replying to but calm down man, it's just a discussion. Not everything is a fight.
>>741731276>from pandora tomorrow's kino train mission to thiswtf
>>741731280>"Gameplay" about sneaking around is the most painfully boring thing imaginable.Then don't play stealth games or open threads about stealth games?
>>741731280>>741729105I like tactical shootersI think they’re funWhat’s your problem with them
>>741731420It's pretty grim>enemeis die when they are killed
>>741731280it's not boring when you learn how to do it fast, it's essentially platforming with different techniques. it does require a minimum 110 IQ, though.
>>741728886Tom Clancy has been dead over 10 years. Let it go.
>>741731919Yea because the faster you do it the sooner you can get to a good game
>>741731949Tom Clancy may be gone, but his memes persist. We are all Sons of Clancy, here.
>>741729105>Splintercell sucksThere's like 10 pick one.>stealth games suckThere's like 1,418, pick one.>tactikool shooters suckSplinter Cell is a stealth game, we just went over this.>and you suck tooCorrect, we all suck.
I want co-op. There ISN'T enough co-op stealth games. Instead of jumping guards one by one, you can play out hit-squads
>>741732192If I meet ANYONE who is a SC chad irl, i will instantly trust them and let them into my home.
>>741732412>"here we are, make yourself at ho-">turn around, SC chad is gonewhat do
>>741732596If you finished Convictions co-op story then you know where im taking it.
>>741733045unfortunately i don't have the conviction to play conviction
>>741728886Sam Fischer is actually get 2 new action figures so not completely dead
>>741733705if you put a big white skull on his chest and told me that was the punisher, i wouldn't even bat an eye
>>741733705He looks like a fucking gimp
>no good game in over 20 yearsit's fucking overjust let go
>>741728886Are you talking about the remake? A remake, if properly handled, could be awesome, but that's 99% not going to happen. Just be content that we got 3 amazing games.
>>741728886>Exciting yet grounded political thriller Tom Clancy coded setting>ambient, quiet, and eerie atmosphere >haunting music>focus on stealth gameplay and not neck break speed/killing as many people as possible>perfect balance of characters >great chemistry/banter between Sam, Grimsdottir, and LambertWe will never get any of this again guys.
>>741729105Jesus christ what an abhorrent post, kill yourself
>>741728886why would you ever want new Splinter Cell, if a better game already exists? With more dynamic light too!
>>741734867>Lambert
>SWEET JESUS, FISHER>THAT WAS A HARD 'R'>THE MISSION IS OVER
>>741735225I will never play indieslop. I'd rather play NES games for the rest of my life than touch a single indie.
>>741736578The worst mistake of this series was making Lambert's death the canonical option. Fuck Conviction
>>741728886It was always ubislop
>>741734867>ywn be a secret agent with a nerdy female handler during the geopolitical turmoil of the early 2000's holy shit bros i'm not sure if I can handle this.
>>741736578shut up Lamberrr
>>741728886>Ask for a new Splinter Cell>Get Sickle Cell instead No thanks
>>741736578>Oops
>>741735225>Levels have no verticality or depth aside from being able to crawl through vents>Stealth is incredibly easy thanks to the top down perspective >Levels are also surprisingly generic and forgettable aside from the one where Steve gets ambushed at his house, that one's pretty good>Steve is an incredibly boring protag with zero personality >Story is just an edgier ripoff of the Punisher but with zero memorable characters I never understood the hype for this game.
>>741740997>Stealth is incredibly easy thanks to the top down perspectiveMany people played it for this reason.
>>741732372>There ISN'T enough co-op stealth gamesIf this ever releases one day you'll get an unofficial one. Maybe. Plus there's another in development but likely slow progress co-op stealth shooter called Darkspy that i found.
>>741740997Hard mode makes it so you can only see what your character could, so a closed room hides the area and enemies around that room. People like both games because they're fun. You can go full stealth/ghost or mass shooter. The game thrives when you embrace both, for when stealth fails and you have to make a mad escape. Enemy AI is better than most too.
>>741728886>Expecting anything when Ubisoft is in its death throes lol
>>741737618I still laugh at Essentials and DA's own advertising spoiling the twist, and neither of them even did it consistently with the game itself
>>741735225>intravenous fag shilling his literal garbage pixelshit yet againsighindie devs are the reason why no good stealth games ever got made. especially when they're so arrogant like him that they never listen to any criticism.
The Maria Narcissa is a boat
>>741746175so was the last guy you introduced to me
>>741746915>guyanon..
>>741731280wow, you're gay and brown
Zherkezhi? Is that some kind of dried meat?
>>741747632You're the one who introduced him to me, Grimm.
Reminder to go play SCCT Spies vs Mercs.https://sc-panel.com/
>Ah, the memories… I spent most of the rest of that year sleeping in a ditch on the road between Baghdad and Kuwait>Oh, well. If it's any consolation, I had a bad year that year too>What? You weren't working for the government during the Gulf War?>No. I was in tenth grade>Oh. Right. Yuck
>>741748358>YuckI never understood why Sam expressed disgust here.Was he disgusted by the idea of a tenth grader working for the government?
>>741748472yuck as in dealing with childish tenth grader issues was more troubling to him than fighting in the Gulf War. It was a joke
>>741737323based
>>741728886> Pictured, the death of a franchiseTheir excuse for the complete and utter character assassination of Sam Fisher was "We want more action and Ironside is too old to do the motion capture scenes". More likely it was "We didn't want to pay him for VA so we got some new guy that we could pay next to nothing instead", but whatever.Literally all they had to do to not piss everyone off was make the player character a brand new character who was younger, and get Ironside to voice Sam Fisher as the new leader of 4th Echelon (or whatever). He would talk to you over the course of each mission in the role previously held by Lambert. This would let the devs use a younger/more athletic character with a more physical style of gameplay, as well as keep the believability of the series intact. Or they could have just made an actual stealth game instead of "press X to win" bullshit, but I digress.
>>741749786To be fair, the game being a AAA title they couldnt make it slow and atmospheric or strategic and methodical, at least %65 of people would dip out on the first mission plus youre basically eliminating purchases from females because youre asking them to play the video game equivalent of Master and Commander.Stealth is dead simply because everyone now is much dumber and less patient.
>>741749786Ironside was suffering cancer at the time and had to rein on the idea of returning.
>>741750332if i were dying the last thing i would want to do is work on an ubishart game
>>741728886>duuuude i hope they revive my favorite game and made a retarded dumbed down demake of it for the normgroids who cant go 2 seconds without looking at their phonesare you an actual cuck or something, why would you want that? i hope it stays dead forever
>>741729409lmao
>>741748263the games industry is so fucking gayall they have to do is patch the current pc port to fix bugs, modernize UIX, and give the game full steam integration
>>741752659they literally dont want you playing any old games, that's part of the reason why they're "replacing" everything with demakes
>>741729105Hey man, I just want you to know that you're not an okay guy in my book I don't appreciate you.
>>741728886If the PC port of DA actually ran without crashing every 15 minutes it would be good.
>>741750185>Stealth is dead simply because everyone now is much dumber and less patient.Dishonored helped killed it by further dumbing everything down though. As did Ubisoft but that besides the point because whoever had the biggest impact to dilute game mechanics set the respective trend. Perhaps AC equally shares the blame to be a little more balanced in critique. Games are still copying Dishonored to this day which /v/ otherwise considers slop though.The best example is that Thi4f is basically a Dishonored retread.
>>741754697Double Agent is best experienced by playing version 2 on the OG xbox.It gets very close to Chaos Theory tier and less of a middling title. Ubisoft have made this the least obtainable version today. It never got properly ported for PC nor did it exist on the 7th gen consoles. It's a puzzling thing to happen because it's a very high note for the series gameplay wise.Some people question whether SC was a 1 hit series but i say that's incorrect because DA is actually pretty good.
>>741756447Dishonored retread if its combat was dogshit and prolonged instead of dogshit that ends in a second because of how overpowered you are, superpowered or not.
>>741728886How come some AA company hasn't made a spiritual successor to the original Splinter Cell trilogy? Even SWAT 4 got one in the form of Ready or Not.
>>741729105good post
>>741757151I'm making one right now.You play as a black woman whose claps of her ass cheeks and flaps of her tits alert the guards so you have to move slow.
Maybe this is nostalgia speaking, but it always felt like a lot of those levels from 1-3 were set in perpetual dusk which gave them a kino atmosphere.
>>741757151AA won't ever touch. Indie there's only a few potentials right now and a few of them look pretty unclear and not well communicated about their progress. If even the indie scene can't break into this genre (or do it without meaningful results and they have a 2 hour run time/are janky. that's even if they ever release because most of them don't) what hope do we have for AA to ever do it? there's unlikely to be a comeback from any direction. That being said i hold onto hope that someone talented out there will eventually just take a leap of faith and realize they're not going to do make much money by creating these games but just does it for the passion above the profit.
>>741757783Do you not understand what the difference between indie and AA is?
>>741757462>the sneaky man who hides in the dark chooses the darkest time to conduct his missionsyou don't say
>>741757891I know what the difference is. My comments are that AA will only dive into something if it's well established generally from the small devs. They see StarDew Valelly doing well then they're going to want to make their own higher budget version of it. That's how it works nowadays.They've been following trends of what does well outside their usual higher funded output.
>>741757918learn what the definition of dusk is
>>741749786Finally an Anon with common sense. I don't know where all those Conviction fans came from
>>741757151I'm more surprised that there is no slav version of this
>>741756878How does the PS2 version compare to the xboxheug version? PS2 emulation is pretty good these days.If its anything like the PS2 version of Chaos Theory I'm sure the lighting will be nowhere near as good and the levels will be split up with loading zones, but if its reasonably faithful it might be worth checking out.
>>741757462All stealth games should take place at dusk/night imobest for atmosphere and kind of appropriate mission wise that you don't just bust into some complex in the day while everyones alert and expects it. Some people comment on Splinter Cells stealth being unrealistic but I've moved through the dark like Sam does IRL and people didn't notice me. But it's all circumstantial because there needs to be more dimmed background light sources.
>>741759082It still has minor cuts and pair backs, but the PS2/GC/Wii versions surprisingly aren't as cut back as prior ports were. Biggest problem is that Dolphin has notable graphical issues here and there with the GC version but the Wii is pretty much motion control hell, so PS2 is literally your best direct bet. You can technically run the Xbox version on Xemu and I mostly had intact gameplay, but Xemu's kind of a shit like all Xbox emulation.
>>741759198I'd emulate the PS2 version for two reasons:1.) The PS2 is piss easy to emulate these daysand2.) The Gamecube is gay
>>741759082Both PS2 and gamecube versions are likely always gimped compared to the Xbox ones. I'm not sure what the story was with that other than considering the SC series was technically a loose Xbox exclusive that it's versions got priority over everyone else.I don't know the specifics but if it follows the same trends of the others then it's likely downgrounded lighting and textures or something. Chopping the levels up into pieces on the PS2 because the shit hardware couldn't handle it.
>>741759361Xbox straight up had more horsepower and memory overall (Xbox, 64MB; GC, 43MB non-unified; PS2 32MB). So it could store more level data, handle more complex shaders thanks to DirectX being built into it and the machine built to handle more demanding visuals, etc. When Splinter Cell got the other ports, the result was taking a scalpel and trying to remove level chunks, guards, other certain tidbits, and adding more loading screens here and there throughout to compensate, on top of graphics downgrades all around. Gamecube graphics weren't as downgraded, but used the same level changes. Chaos Theory and Double Agent Version 2 got less cuts/changes, but still had to pull back on demand to make the jump appropriately.If you ever played Splinter Cell 3D on the 3DS, it was basically the PS2 port of Chaos Theory.
>>741759254I'd personally advise against playing the cutback version for the reasons he outlined even if it's not as bad as the prior examples>>741759645Just find an Xbox Series S on the real cheap and backwards compat emulate. It might not be worth the hassle but thats something ill be doing for my next playthrough of it since og xbox emulation is still shit. I'd prefer the least compromises to the original vision of the game. Even though Double Agent is already in a grey area for having two versions. I've just played it back when i still had an OG xbox so that's how i found about the differences eventually that the version of the game that most people played on their 360s and PS3s and thought it was 'bad' wasn't the same one i played on xbox. That pretty much just felt like a continuation of Chaos Theory.
>>741729105i suck and i fuck bitch
>>741733705Sam Fisher's iconic... crossbow?
>>741760960Iconic is the multi vision goggles or three green dots situated near each other followed with their booting up sound. Was a good design choice both visually and audibly.
>>741729105The shareholders should demand it.
>>741732596...must have been the wind.
>>741739237Oh it gets worse for fans. In that Ubisoft attempt at pro gaming, they has an NSA team, with fucking Samir Fisher.
>>741731276uhhhh. whos going to tell em the first splinter cell had forced combat sections
>>741761841I don't think it's quite the same thing.>Nikoladze's office raid>you hand over the ledge and wait for them to go away>abattoir raid after securing the diplomats/soldiers>a bunch of enemies storm the room>that level gave you half a dozen wall mines leading up to that section, hoping you will use them for this>position them just right and you don't have to fight any of them
>>741757234incel.market will make you a very rich man
>>741757151We had some vaporware AA game from the Koreans but it disappeared into a thin air and now it's confirmed the studio went under and bankrupt. It wasn't trying to be better era of Splinter Cell though. I don't even know how SC it actually really was other than BigFry TV (youtube channel) insisting that it was. It looked like it was copying Ghost Recon Wildlands or Ghost Recon Breakpoint more than anything else. It was called Mudang Two HeartsImo even Blacklist looked more stealthy than it so i wasn't that upset upon hearing the news.
>>741761170>stealth game>wear the brightest most noticeable thing ever
>>741763603How are you going to make some part of the design stick out when the idea is that you can see in the dark like it's daylight and other people can't? Solid Snake had a bandana half tried around his forehead and that worked in simplicity too for looking pretty iconic. All it needs is one element to create memorable iconography. Not sure why the bandana worked as well as it did since there were no practical reasons for why Snake did it on the other hand whilst Sam's reasons were practical.
>>741748263It's on my bucket list. Currently watching letsplays and practicing on my own, but I plan on giving it a go eventually.
>>741763803bandana half tied around his head*typo
>>741729105chaos theory multiplayer on xbox was amazing
>>741728886>We demand signs of life>nubishitnolet it stay dead
pandora tomorrow is kino
>>741737618Conviction's story was kino, but it's a shit SC game.https://youtu.be/4gXTc6RMnr8?list=RD4gXTc6RMnr8
>>741731276>Everything is automatic by just pressing the parcour button like in the later ass creed gamesjust like old SC bruh lmao the games were blueprints for AC and later crap, Blacklist is just Conviction but with slight emphasis on stealth and it's probably the best one in the series
>>741764734>just like old SC bruh lmao the games were blueprints for ACOld SC was the blueprint for AC? wutThey play nothing alike. Or maybe you're insisting that Blacklist is old now with the similarities which is technically true about all the auto parkour stuff. But Blacklist was hardly the blueprint for any of it considering the first AC was 2007. None of the games had automated inputs until Conviction and Blacklist. Wasn't AC always technically automated? it just had varying degrees of automation and making it more cinematic later on with improved animations. But SC was never a blue print because it never adopted it's philosophy and only after AC did the similarities come about.
>>741764734fucking retardPoP was AC's blueprint, in fact old conviction was inspired by AC
>>741763603They are bright just so the player can see where Sam is. In universe they don't shine.
>>741766157pop was inspired by splinter cell
>>741735225>pretending that Splinter Cell and Intravenous are somehow competingThey're brothers. Both games are great, and Splinter Cell was an inspiration.
>>741728886I demand a seat at the table!
>>741729307Assassination through posting? Of course not. This is no videogame Anonsher.
>>741729105Best gaming experiences I've had in a long while were Hidden and Dangerous 2 and Swat 4. Dog tier post.
>that animated series that didn't even have the respect to invite Ironside despite featuring an aged Fisher and had like one nightvision scene
>>741743089cool, sc co op with best friend is top 3gaming experiences
>>741769369What is this from?
>>741768482Pandora Tomorrow looks so clunky after I've become used to Chaos Theory PC.
>>741735225game is too hard on all the fun ai settings, have to make ai dumb for it not to be tedious as fug, lame
>>741770702the first Splinter Cell game, it's a secret room you can reach from the tutorial area
>>741762516You are forgetting way dumber and more forced cases from the first game. Cant tell whether you genuinely forgot or are just being disingenuousThe same logic applies to SCBT's train level btw. You can just hide and take them down with gas grenades and shit before youre detected. You can even gas them before you drop inside the train. Doesnt make that section any less terrible
>>741770949I have never seen that room. How do you get inside?>>741770974>shitting on train levelsChoke on a dick.
>>741771165I am only talking about the end section of Blacklist's, meant to type BLThe SCPT train level is a different flavor of dogshit though. Most of it is practically a cutscene, you just hold the climbing button waiting for shit to happen, or you stare at dialogues.
>>741763507What a shame that Mudang game is cancelled. I was kind of looking forward to it. Not the k-pop side, but the gear-queer tacticool side. Oh well, better scratch it off the list.
>hypothetical good train level you have to keep moving in and out of the train to avoid detection while still progressing and getting your objectives done. cool strategy and timingyou use your fancy spy tools and sticky cameras to see the inside of the train from the outsideyou have to watch out for obstacles outside of the train when moving out, maybe some observer/handler warns you about an incoming tunnel or low clearance obstacles>SCPT's train levelhold w for several minutesfollow linear pathwait for dialogue to end in the 1 obvious spot to hide, move to the next one, repeat
>>741729105go back to Fortnite and CoD, Nigger monkey loving
>>741735225>2d stealthYAWN
>>741735225>dynamic lightNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741771439Yeah the news broke just a day ago about the official bankruptcy filing. I'd probably have played it but it still wasn't entirely ideal for me in it's direction. Too action heavy that even made Blacklists action parts look more tame in comparison. Also the whole zombie like virus horror thing? didn't like that and it looks like they were trying to sprinkle in TLOU or something. Plus protect the k pop star? it was loopy shit that didn't belong in a tactical stealth action game. Should always just be espionage themes imo. I dunno asian games are weird.That being said no one makes these kinds of games at all, period. Aside from a very limited amount of future potential upcoming unpolished indie projects I've seen that won't even have a fraction of it's budget. It's one of the few games i was still anticipating to try out at least but I'm pretty biased towards thinking that the right direction for design is light levels. Just no ones figured that out in modern day. Styx tried doing this to a considerable degree and i think it at least had a few of the right ideas in a modern game but the definitive direction should still be Chaos Theory.
>>741769369Always bugs me when modern games stop you from doing fun thingsIn a nugame she would be un-attackable no matter what you doInstead of this, they chose to add in a little message and let the player experiment for funIt's so simple and yet so valuable
>>741772767>press a button>get punished with a game over and a long loading screen to repeat everything again
