Marathon is fucking BACK
>>741729857more like maraTHROON amirite? lol
>>741729857Do another f2p with this and I might download
>>741729989741729989?More like 74172998nigger, amirite?
>>741729989Youre thinking about nintroondo
>>741730161damn you got me i yield i yield
>>741729857great another extraction game ruined by PvEfags
>>741729857i wonder what percentage of the playerbase has even seen the map once. .0001%? .0000001%? this should bump that up.
I'm seeing way less Marathon chart posts now. Did Modi finally cut the funding?
it wont increase player count
This game is ugly as fuck and the woman do not have tits and ass so i see no reason to play, even Apex gave me huge brown ass
>>741729857why not just make a good single player game
>>741734238I might have found a trigger word
>>741729857why the fuck are they introducing PVE?? they should just stick to the PVP slop they made, if they wanted the destiny crowd they should have fucking made destiny 3
>kill Destiny so they can turn Marathon into Destinyinteresting choice on their end
>>741729857told you so award winners.
>>741729857Is bungie always this retarded? Have they always been this easily sent into a death spiral of optimizing inconsequential minutia or missing the point of a solution?
>>741734810Except it's an uglier version of Destiny with less features and less content.
>>741729857>it's not a fully separate server/mode but and half baked roguelike mode>only one maplol>>741735327This is tame compared to the retarded decision they made with destiny
>>741735327>Is bungie always this retarded?Yeah, basically. They've basically been subsisting entirely off the inertia of Activision's record breaking Destiny 1 marketing spend.
>>741735327To the degree I have no idea how Destiny as a franchise lasted as long as it did.Content vaulting alone is the most inexcusable lack of foresight I think I’ve ever seen from a developer. In a just world they would’ve been sued over it.
>>741734238Literally nobody cares abouth Marathon and there are too many good games to keep entertained now, so even the steam chart threads are boring.
So it's a pve mode where you earn upgrades to make the next run slightly easier but you don't actually earn gear?I will say this though Bungie is clearly learning with how they are segregating PVE and PVP gear
>>741729857Should've launched it before the free weekend so people could've given it a shot. It would've been a better window for them.
>>741729857shut Bungie down already they've had enough humiliation rituals
>>741729857>Add pve but remove the loot and leave in progression Sounds boring as fuck, how long until they backtrack this and start adding loot and make it basically a watered down destiny 2 lol
>>741736360could be a test run. If this does well implement this on all maps till they phase out the extraction part and turn the game into a weird roguelike
>>741729857>bungie just now realized there's a genre called battle royale
>>741735327Yes, they need to be tard wrangled. Halo only happened because microsoft put the boot on their necks.
>>741736548>Completely shifting the genre of your already launched and flopped game praying it eventually mutates into something palatable Well, it worked for Fortnite I guess.I don’t know how desperate Sony is to see some kind of return for their losses. I would’ve shuttered Bungo completely by now instead of continuing to let them just tread water thinking they can still pull a miracle comeback.
>PvE>it's not connected to the extraction mode>can't get loot from it>it's a barebones dungeon crawlmarathon is saved?
>>741736968Every month Marathon stays in operation with 300 to 400 devs at Bungie working on it, Sony spends $5-6m in salaries alone. For the game to make a profit, it would have to overcome that operational cost, then make $1m to $2m a month in net revenue, and even at those numbers, it would take 200 to 400 months (a quarter of a century) to overcome the game's development cost. I just don't see it happening.
>>741737394Yeah if I were a corposuit at Sony I would be so completely done with their bullshit.Kick them all to the curb or see if Microsoft wants to buy them back at a loss. You’re never getting that 3.7 billion back anyway.
>>741737603I'd close the studio and just license the IP. It's that or suck it up, invest $500m, and roll the dice on Destiny 3. And I'd EOL Marathon in either case, because that game is dead.
>>741737694Reminder that despite Destiny's 10x higher daily peaks, it's only ahead in DAU by a few placements.(D2: #146, Marathon: #153)Oh wow are there like 80k people that log on for the sake of it, and the other 20k actually play? KEKAROOOOOOO
>>741738452Where are you getting these DAU figures from?
>>741737394God when you write it outBungie at $4bn really was the scam of the century. Even if Destiny 3 had been made and was bigger than destiny 2 they're not making that money back.
>>741729857Marathon had PVE all the way in 1994, OP.
>>741738545NTA, likely steamdb
>>741738615Those Bungie execs who cashed out when the deal went through are some of the smartest people in gaming because they both unloaded an overvalued asset and got out without having to be held accountable for anything.>>741738814Just checked and yeah, it's a stat on SteamDB. I'd love to see how they calculate it, because you have weird stuff like SteamVR being #18 in the list but having a total daily peak player count of 815.
>>741738545>>741738814popularity report is the best one for destiny since it also counts console players
>>741739368Destiny being better than Marathon on Steam in any metric is a total disaster for Marathon since PC is its lead platform vs. the vast majority of Destiny's audience being on console.
>>741729857>enter the fucking Cryo Archive>can't even extract lootPVEcucks why can't you just git gud and play normally?
AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>741729857>listen to whiny pvefags>turns out they already left for the next current thing.>dead gameA tale as old as gaming itself.
>>741740849Only the most determined Rapelords can get the special Cryo skin. Casuals need not apply (unless they want to get raped)
LMAO
Way to fucking miss the point, Marathon was supposed to be a PVP game.
>>741741018As it should be, Marathon is a PVP game
>>741741120>>741741056>Marathon is a PVP gameGuess they shouldn't have spent a quarter of a billion dollars making it, huh?
>>741729857>and 100% not an extraction shooter!coolsub-sub-genre's got no legs, it's just streamers and streamer buttbuddies playing a mod that never earned the right to be retail
>>741729857>Kill Destiny>Marathon gets Destiny strikes with multiple player modes and roguelike progressionAztec Ross is gonna kill himself.
>>741729857I know bungie's game. If it is anything like destiny, and you try to avoid the pvp game modes, you will eventually realize that the game will force you into it anyways.
>>741735327yes
>>741740849NOOOOOOOOOO I WAS SUPPOSED TO FARM COMPILER WITH THE EASY MODE NOOOO
>>741741560Sweet
I guess this addresses the issue of "how do you let casuals learn/experience 1/4th of the maps when every attempt would normally cost them a 5k loadout they'd lose in <3 minutes and keys they'd need 50 hours to find"Which really highlights how bad the design of Cryo as a mode was to begin with
>>741741931skill issue
>>741730161jej
>>741741972It's more of a design issue than anything.
>>741729857why would I want to play a mode where I can't directly extract loot and instead exchange some gay currency?just give us a literal narratie story campaign, THATS IT
>>741741221As many views as peak total players on a busy day
>>741741972Yeah, obviously if you're amazing at the game it's not an issue, but most people aren't
>>741729857>we have so many players we'll need you to play against bots...I MEAN PVE EVENT!!
>>741742084works on my machine>>741742376ordinary people learned just fine by exploring an dying in Cryo.You will never feel the high of prime Cryo where nobody knew the roues and secret passages and skips and most people struggled to even reach exfils and didn't know how to final exfil.That was fun
>>741740541>Gold shield trio griefing blue teams with their purple misriahs and m77woah
god i hate paul tassi he's such a fucking retardthe mode does sound coolbut paul tassi is a worthless retard
>>741742746>ordinary peopleIt's a tiny percentage of Marathon's overall players who ever see cryo, let alone beat it. Something like 50% of all Marathon players never even exfil more than six times.This is the same retarded 'let's make it really, really hard' design that killed Wildstar.
>>741735987This place was my main reason for booting up the game. And they took it away from me. Uninstalled immediately.
>>741743126
>>741739175SteamVR is launched, but not shown as your current game, any time you launch any VR game, so for example almost everyone on VRChat is running SteamVR.
>>741735383It's destiny without all the bloat
>>741744954That bloat being actual gameplay, right?
>>741736548fuck that, I like extracting
>It's an extraction shooter but you aren't allowed to extract anything in PvENot even Tarkov was this retarded with PvE mode.
>>741745023no, it has much of the same gameplay except PvP isn't a boring slog
holy shit, i don't care
>4v4 will save highguard!
>>741745105cared enough to come into the thread and post
>>741741028marathonhate made a funny yesterday on this, I actually chuckled out loud
>>741745097>much of the same gameplayA single PVP mode is not a replacement for all of Destiny's PVE and PVP content.
>>741729857this is just trying to bandaid the real problem, which is the extraction gamemmode. Adding a pve sidemode won't fix thatthe game wouldn't be dying if it just had conventional gamemodes
>>741729857
>>741746473God damn, RIGHT back to where it was before the patch, like nothing even happened.
>>741746691Well yeah, nobody's gonna want to pay money for this shit. Just log in for the free weekend, grab some footage, and then use that for your youtube channel for ad revenue.
>>741746954God bless that Smash JT manlet for making money off of this mess. I'm glad someone is.
>>741734238apathy for the most part, people know it'll die eventually, but it's becoming more and more boring to watch it die
MARATHON IS SAVED!!!TAKE THAT YOU FUCKING CHUDS!!!
>>741741221
Why would I play this ugly piece of shit game for trannies and niggers?
>>741747516>they really thought these characters would selllollmao even
>>741729857>Paul TassiCuck Tassi is more like it, since he's a cuck for misandrist anti-gamer feminists.
>>741745470It's PvPvE
>>741729857>Here's PvE after over 6 months>you don't get any lootlol
>>741747764It's threadbare PVE. That one Destiny 2 mode where you have NPCs on the map you're fighting at the same time as an enemy team of players is more PVPVE than all of Marathon.
>>741729857>PvE modeBack in my day we had campaigns and they were fucking dope
>>741747841Back in that day retards ruined gaming by wanting everything to be a CoD campaign
>>741748014And they succeeded. Now we just get PvE mode slop. Congrats.
>>741734238Not much left to talk about. Sure, going F2P for a week drummed up some chatter, and that time Sony accidentally had to give away a bunch of premium editions for like $10 got people talking for a bit too, but now it's back where it was, all CCU boosts only lasted like 4 days max.There's simply not enough fuel for the fire.When the PVE mode hits, that should bring back some Steam Charts threads for a bit, as it gives people a reason to make those threads (CCU going up OR down).If the game officially goes full F2P, Steam Charts.If the game announces EoS, Steam Charts.Right now the game's in this weird limbo where nobody's playing it and nothing Bungie does brings players back. Maybe "purgatory" is a better word, I guess.
>>741749434Because no one wants to play another fucking extraction shooter. How is this a hard concept?
>>741749521Ask Bungie that. I think the whole genre's kinda dumb because it always devolves into sweat vs sweat as the higher-tier players curbstomp anyone bad at the game (who then leave), it often becomes a situation where the players themselves raise the skill floor until the playerbase gets squished under a hydraulic press.Bonus points for them making all the characters look like shit sorry, "niche appeal", I mean, which I think is one of the biggest cardinal sins of a GaaS game.
>>741749749Honestly, I think the biggest mistake modern shooters made was turning movement into its own skill tree.Back in the MW2/Black Ops era, movement was simple: sprint, jump, crouch, prone. Good players stood out because of aim, positioning, map knowledge and decision making. You could still get destroyed by a great player, but it felt understandable.Now every shooter has tac sprint, slide cancelling, bunny hopping, omnimovement, animation cancels and whatever else. The result is that the skill gap has shifted heavily towards movement tech. New or average players aren't just losing gunfights, they're losing to mechanics they don't even understand.The other problem is that modern gaming culture optimizes everything. In 2010 most people were just messing around with fun classes and weird builds. Today everyone has watched the tier list videos, copied the meta loadouts and learned the best movement routes before they've even launched the game.If I wanted to "fix" the genre, I'd simplify movement, keep ranked and casual separate, loosen matchmaking a bit, and focus the skill gap back on shooting, positioning and teamwork instead of who can abuse movement mechanics the hardest. You still need depth, but depth doesn't have to mean turning every public match into an esports qualifier.
>PvE mode>no loot>most of the game is missingOkay bungie are completely retarded. This isn't going to satisfy anyone. They really don't get it do they? They're obsessed with making the game as unpleasant as possible and don't understand why no-one is playing. They're going to all be fired. Just add a proper PvE mode you retards.
>>741750085What's shocking is that that happened to Mario Kart World.No, can't just make a new Mario Kart, nah, it's gotta have you hopping around like a lunatic and mashing the trick button 1000x making your character GEDDAN after every jump and between every rail because all this shit gives you boosts you need to stack up, all while the normalfags that bought the game try to figure out how the hell they're in 999th place.
>>741750714Yeah Mario Kart World went too far towards Crash Team Racing.
>>741750092Go back to arc lol
>>741750859I already did, along with everyone else. Enjoy your dead game
>>741729857Marathon has more players than crimson desert now lol
>>741729857that sounds horrible what the fuck
>>741729857Wouldn't it have made more sense to launch the PVE mode, then do the free weekend?
did they actually delay season 3?
>>741729857>flooding economy>economyNow that is just fucking retarded.
>500 player bump from yesterday, where it was only 116 players away from going sub 10k daily high for the first timethey turned the bots on again, I see1000 players magically came back the last time it was about to slip below 10k too
>>741753770AUG-NOVthey had a four month range for it, anon
>>741729857I'll buy it when it's $10
>>741732034Probably 2-3%.
>>741730049unironically this
>>741754247wasn't that how long the season lasts?
>>741735462>>only one mapWouldn't really work on other maps currently in the game. Cryo is really good, though, so this shouldn't be a problem.
I expect Marathon to shut down before 2028
>>7417553132027*
The humiliation ritual continues.
>>741736360Then you'll just have to farm the PvE mode to have a chance at PvP.
>>741729857pvp is so fucking gay and tiresome; marathon may have been more sucessful as a pve game. damn shame
>>741729857Nice, now it just needs to be free and it might get me back.
Bungie together with the git gud community are still doing everything in their power to prevent this game from succeeding, huh?
>>741755313>Marathon is dead on arrival>It will die after two weeks>D-dead before season 2>S-season 3! Dead by season 3!>Ahhhhhh save me Asmongold! It has to die before 2028!!!
>>741755589What the fuck does a streamer have to do with your shit taste?
literally nobody cares lmao
LOL
>>741729857next it goes f2p
>>741755961we already got a peek at what that looks like and it can't even pay for 400 employees
>>741749521the genres not the problem, plenty of people tried it despite knowing it was an extraction shooter.it has no retention because the game is cruel and confusing to new players and most people cant break out of the sore loser "it's the games fault I lost" mindset.
Checking /v/ every week to see the same Maratrannies continually cope to themselves that the game is a success despite constantly hitting new lows is amazing entertainment. Please let the cope continue.
>>741756876>the game is cruel100% true, it tries to make you feel bad constantly. The devs even doubled down on how punishing it was in the first few updates. Now there's a half-assed PvE mode that's missing most of the game's content? They're cooked
man these threads used to be filled with same mean spirited, unfunny, incel chuds making the same blast joke a hundred times, I guess they've all ack'd since the game hasn't died
Marathon?More likeMaradead
>>741756876>it has no retention because the game is cruel and confusing to new players and most people cant break out of the sore loser "it's the games fault I lost" mindset.its 100% a design problem, Bungie saw Warzone and thought making mini-Slayer maps inside a slightly larger map was a good idea and it just doesnt work without any semblance of gear parity, Slayer worked in halo cause you could eventually have a game where you'll get the grenade launcher or sniper rifle before the other team
>>741750092See >>741755362PvE and PvP need to be separate
>>741729857>Marathon is fucking BACKHold up. Didn't you say that the game was great and marathon was doing great and it was just some incel haters that were bitching about nothing?
>>741734238Second season started and was a compete fucking humilation. FTP period is over.
>>741735327Pretty much all their output from late destiny 1, yes.>>741736005It's already dipped below 10k.
>>741757818Believe it or not, more than 1 person likes Marathon. Some are delusional that it's a success, others are realistic and are hoping that things change for the better.
Could this game end up like Quake Champions where there's like 3 guys paid to maintain the game on their own
>>741738545A deliberate bad reading of steamdb. >>741741018Are you kidding? It's actually an accomplisment to just extract a few times on cryo, particularly without being carried.
>>741757502>7000 players online>hasn't died
>>741746691>>741746954Given the rev figures, SOME people were buying that shit. But regardless of whoever bought, they lost more. As you can see, people didn't even stick around for the full free period. They checked it out and bounced.
>>741749434One other thing, is that the dedicated PVE mode will make it harder to read the health of PVP matchmaking. I predict a certain percentage of pop just goes PVE and never comes back.
>>741753227They were desperate for new players, and had their internal "toxic positivity" fucks say the game was great, more people just needed exposure.And it wasn't just a weekend. It was a full week+.Well, THAT proved to be a complete sack of shit. It's a safe bet they try another free week to promote this as well.
>>741758151I think Bungie probably did the math internally and figured out that the gains from PVE would be better than the damage to the PVP mode. >Oh no, we upset 1000 sweats but got 5000 PVE casuals?>I can live with that
>>741755626Those fucks think that we get marching orders from streamers. It's why they tried to shut them down for a while. He'll spam it forever.
>>741756876The biggest reason why we know the genre's not the biggest problem is the number of other extraction shooters that do better, with a fraction of the budget, both launch and ongoing. Now those pops are still too niche to support a AAAA level company, but it's getting fucking thrashed by AA class games and games old enough to drink.
>>741757180If the game was a success, then you have to ask why the shills will pivot to think that this will save it.
>>741757932All the marathon fans I know are either rapists or enjoy being raped, and PVE mode is incredibly unappealing to them. I suspect OP is shilltastic. I want to see OP's mudkips. If what you're saying is true, he'll be quite eager.
>>741758151no, they thought of that. They made the PvE mode bad and missing most of the content to avoid that very problem
>>741757948Bungie's not going to release the keys to the kingdom.
>>741758230Half agree. The game is in a completely unsustainable state. They try something crazy like this, or they park it and let it die. If the game was going to die anyways, losing those players doesn't matter.The thing is those additonal players need to buy enough shit to keep the train rolling.
>>741758464...but why would anyone play a shit PVE mode with shit content? None of this makes sense.
>>741758564>>741758605All Bungie can do is try crazy shit at this point, imo. It's just like Highguard when they were doing a bunch of those 'experiments' like making 5v5 rounds and whatever else, just because what the hell did they have to lose?And Marathon is doing exactly the same thing right now.Hell, if I was Bungie and I had Sony putting the barrel of a gun in my mouth that's still warm from the bullet they just put in Destiny, I'd throw every plate of spaghetti I had at the wall.
>>741758605The marathon designers really don't want to add a PvE mode. This way they can say "we tried PvE and no-one played it!"
>>741758447>All the marathon fans I know are either rapists or enjoy being rapedIt's literally tranny tier now like dead by daylight, WoW and GGStrive. My coworker who only plays those games was telling me how much fun Marathon is and he doesn't understand why people pvp in it when 'you dont have to'
>>741758605Cryo Archive is actually a great map. People don't like playing it only because they get spawnrushed 2 minutes in by people without jobs. I've had a had a few runs in Cryo where my team managed to avoid encounters with other people and it was great.
>>741729857>PvE "roguelite" shooterreminds me of Synced and Rainbow Six Extraction
>>741729857wow so they won in the long run
I'm having a blast.
>>741758958That's quite horrible. Also, it seems that I wasn't the only one who thought that unstable biomass looked like shit in a bag.
my nigga in christ marathon was NEVER GONE
Don't care unless it works offline
>>741759425You care enough to keep saying this in every Marathon thread.
>>741758775>It's literally tranny tier now like dead by daylight, WoW and GGStrive.Could you elaborate? I have no idea what this means.
>>741759395This video is clearly AI because that's Dirlewangler but he's not raping someone. But were he alive today, he'd be an intense Marathon player, I'm sure.
just rip the bandaid off and shut it down
>>741759923It has been amusing to see people continue to beg to shut this game down for several months straight.
>>741760031you know whats more amusing? marathon LOL
>>741760279yup its really fun
>>741729857>PvE mode in our extraction shooter doesn't have extraction mechanicsDuckov won
>>741729857>no lootlmaonojust give us the same main game without any other players and a separate vault, fucking Tarkov has that and PvE is more popular than the "real game" thereBungie is absolutely retarded and so are Sony execs for not just liquidating the studio already
>>741729857I feel like playing Destiny again
>>741760476What's the gameplay of Destiny, anyway? I know that it's an FPS, but that's about it.
>>741760443it's so obvious, I can't believe they're fucking this up, especially when Tarkov PvE is right there as an example
>>741760651The problem with Marathon is that the progression treadmill is ass, in Tarkov you have actual endings, a hideout to furnish and to visit in game, RPG elements to improve various skills, tons of weapons to customize which is Barbie for milshit LARPers etc.Marathon has 1/10th of all this
>>741760443>>741760651This is an experimental mode. They are obviously not going to go through the effort of adding a separate vault for an experiment. Maybe they'll do it if it ends up popular.
>>741729857>leave without lootlol just play Doom
>>741760739>in Tarkov you have actual endingsMarathon does story across seasons. The closest thing to an ending it will have is its version The Final Shape (assuming the games makes it that far).> a hideout to furnish and to visit in gameNever played Tarkov, but if its hideout is anything like that of Arc Raiders, then it's for the best that Marathon doesn't have it.>RPG elements to improve various skillsThe Cradle.> tons of weapons to customize Marathon has a lesser version of that.
>>741758230bungie mistakenly thought they were known for their pvp when their only successes have been pve focused.
Blasthavers status?
>>741760434Fair reference point. How does the mode compare to duckov? That's how I will judge it.>>741760556FPS diablo 3, but
>>741760894Hold up. I don't think they advanced the story at fucking all season 2. Not like they don't have 100 people doing writing, editing and story shit at that company.
>>741740849Wait, so there is literally no point in doing vault breaker? You get 0 progress on anything, you get 0 unlocks... so why would anyone run it?
>>741761150It was advanced a little bit, through the valuables on Night Marsh. But that's not enough. Especially since contracts are just modular quests with a bit of VA and writing attached. Season 3 NEEDS to have a new set of priority contracts, comparable to the current ones in quantity.
>>741761027Ass blasted and HOOKED on Big Bungie Cock
>>741761239people were complaining that cryo was too complex so at least it lets people learn the map i suppose
>>741761239XP + fun. It's an experimental mode, so it's not surprising that it doesn't have proper progression integration yet.
>>741729857Reminder that a total genre change sideode moved Fortnite from flop to giga hit
>>741760760it has no chance of being popular. PvE players don't want a cut down version of the game that's missing most of the stuff. It just goes to show the disdain the developers have for PvE.
>>741760739for a game that clearly apes tarkov it did miss the whole point
>>741761239>so why would anyone run it?...that is a GREAT question.
>>741761410>Cryo Archive>Cut down version of the gameI don't think that you have any idea what you are talking about.
>>741761407that was a different time, a different genre that wasn't played out yet. Fortnite was basically the second BM that came out, it was f2p from the start, it had interesting build mechanics that changed the format. i don't even like fortnite but it did everything right and at the perfect time. I feel like that time has already passed for marathon.
>>741760739Doesn't Tarkov also have a straight up PVE mode?
>>741761490>no loot>no contracts>only 1 map
>>741729857hmmm it sounds interesting to me. Any plan for F2P? Never? Then I am considering to buy it.
>>741761407And took a AAA level of resources to pull off. I don't think they have the people for a realm reborn here.Do you see the game mode being enough to get people to play and spend money at a AAA+ level on it's own? Because nothing short of that is a winner.
>>741761545they made it dlc and charged $30 for it
>>741729857I'll actually play it now
>>741761585The signature of cryo is that it forces PVP. The entire goddam map is all about either attacking other groups, defending groups, or manuvering to avoid getting theird partied, or exploiting someone else's fight.>>741761626F2p is actually pretty likely, but they'll probably have a trial period.
>>741761626The in-game shop isn't nearly big enough right now to go F2P. And considering the rate at which cosmetics are being added, it won't happen any time soon. But there will most likely be another free week for season 3 release, which is the last week of September.
>>741736848You say this like bungie is a personPractically none of the people who worked at bungie in the halo 1 days is still working at bungie todayWhich means it's not even the same studio anymore, because a studio isn't a brand name, it's the creative artists, writers, programmers, etc. that build itModern bungie is a reflection of the incompetence of the modern game developer, and the bungie name is simply a skinsuit the DEI hires wear and parade themselves around in, while actual talent has moved on from the company
>>741729857>soloNice, might play it now...but will it be offline?
>>741761897false
>>741761239>>741761459I think you forgot the purpose of playing video games.
>>741741221Genuinely whenever I see a youtuber like this I immediately put that account into the youtube "never show me this ever again" listI just wish I could do the blocking manually before they show up in my feed. I have no time for prostitutes like this kruzer retard
>extraction shooter where loot is the focus of the game adds a pve element where you dont extract or get lootgreat systemwhy even bother?
>>741761912No.
>>741761991See >>741761354
>>741761991they're sending it out to die
>>741747668Do not touch it. Let the niggers and trannies they worship die together.
>>741761991This. I don't understand why they would add this crap. Just make a mode where you play all the same maps as you can in PVP but there are no other players except the team you go in with. You vs the AI enemies. Ramp them up a bit if you want to maintain challenge. Give players too different inventories/storage. One for PVE and one for the PVP mode. Any loot you pick up in one you can't use in the other. Simple
>they're still spending money on itlololololol
i'm blastingyou mad haters?
>>741729857That's dumb as shit, If I wanted to play PvE I wouldn't play some subpar shit like marathon. This will just kill the main mode since players are pussies and at that point you should of just developed it as a pve game to begin with.
>>741729857Marathon is so fucking boring you walk around picking up shit, get into a 30 second fight, then you either die and go back to the main menu or win and pick up more shit until the next 30 second fight.
>>741729857Back from what?
>>741762341shitter issues
>>741762341I like the downtime, actually.
>hmm our game is failing>a large playerbase is asking for a pve version of the game>okay lets make a pve mode thats NOTHING like the pvp mode>this is exactly what they wanted!bungie deserves to fucking BURN
>>741762570How is it nothing like the default Cryo, outside of there not being other teams?
based. gonna blast more marathon after work.
>>741762784no loot, in an extraction game of all thingsreally they deserve to go bankrupt
Id rather the game fail than pve weaklings be served at my table
>>741762931you'll get your wish
>>741761960Yeah, but I can have fun in the other maps/modes while progressing at the same time.
>>741762784The main reason why everyone and their mother gravitate towards cryo is the loot. Even the low tier keys in cryo give golds. Meanwhile you can get the best keys on something like perimeter and get fuck all for loot.
>>741762925>Allow to extract loot from a PvE mode>Cryo Archive PvE mode, at that>You are now required to grind Vault Breaker to even stand a chance in the base gameNice idea, retard. It's not like we've already seen this with Sponsored Night Marsh or anything.
>>741763036yeah, some people are just plain retarded. he is propably a destiny player, which would make sense.
>>741763036Thats the fucking point, Bungie is jumping the shark and just knee jerking shit into existence. >oh no people want less pvp>introduce pve mode but remove the reason why people want a pve modeThey are just retarded.
>>741763274>but remove the reason why people want a pve modeWhy do you think people want a PvE mode?
>>741763359To get loot with less friction you dumbass.
>>741763274>just knee jerking shit into existenceThey announced that there will be an experimental PvE mode in the midseason a week before season 2.
>>741762561I don't see the appeal, all the nothing in between the fun parts adds nothing for me.
>>741763375And what's the point of getting loot?
>>741763571hey dipshit go ahead and go into any eft discussion and ask them why pvp was gutted of players after pve was released. Believe it or not some people just want to progress through the quests and collect gear. I know it may be difficult for someone so fucking dense but I really believe in you.
PvE ruined tapkob
>>741761960>>741763571>>741762784I'm not sure if you fucks are shiltacular, or not understanding what the signature mechanics of an extraction shooter are.
>>741763571getting more loot faster and easierthat's the entire point of the game
>>741761912You know there's actual solo offline extraction shooters available? You don't need to play an afterthought mode in a live service game.
>>741763724I guess I'll just skip to the point I was trying to make. I'm fine with a PvE mode not awarding loot as long as its fun, since I play video games to have fun. My most fun Cryo Archive runs involved avoiding other teams since I suck at shooters and can't compete with most people there. I like PvP on other maps since it's not that bad there and I stand a chance (except Dire Marsh at the end of last season). And there is going to be an internal progression in Vault Breaker as well, which also sounds fun. I think that most remaining players will feel a similar way.
>>741763571To get more loot faster, while making your character stronger by unlocking the passive tree(s).
>>741763907I get where you're coming from but most solo offline extraction shooters are actually smokin hot dogshit.>>741763928>I'm fine with a PvE mode not awarding loot as long as its fun, since I play video games to have funso you had no point. thank you for bumping the thread I guess.
>>741763928>I think that most remaining players will feel a similar way.I think some players go nothing but PVE, dropping the PVP population. I cannot imagine them actually getting the userbase they need to continue dev at this burn rate. I think most people will give no fucks. But I will admit, I thought the D2 players would have all fled when they started vaulting shit. Maybe they're raped enough to jump into this mode.You are a current martathon player, and you're switching to this mode, yes?
>>741764027>You are a current martathon player, and you're switching to this mode, yes?I won't be switching fully, but if it ends up being fun, I'll play it.
>>741729857I'll still not buy it or check it out because dei. At this point I just want to watch em lose and I can do that by doing nothing
>>741764217In which case you will fall further behind on the curve for regular mode. but since you're a casual, I'd expect you to be fine with nonstop rectal ravaging anyways there.
>>741729857And it's gonna be bad lmao.
>>741729989
>>741750085I can't speak for COD because I haven't played since MW1, and I've heard other shooters are bad for this, but it's really not the case for Marathon. Each class has at most 1 quick movement ability and some don't have any. The 1 quickmove is tied to either heat capacity and can hit maybe twice in a 1 minute window, a timer or in the case of the cloaking mechanic is actually noob bait. Because when you cloak human players can still see you, you just look like a JAV censor.
>>741734238Its a shit raped game theres nothing really more to say about it
Well, another 4 more months of marathon threads. Anyway, off to play the game.
>>741763036>>741763375you guys are seriously retarded if you think this is a hard problem to solve. It's like game design 101. You obviously wouldn't mix PvE and PvP characters. MMOs solved this 20 years ago
>>741729857>play extraction game>choose PVE>there is no extraction mechanicnigger wut?
>>741734238it's still the most searched game on steamdb
>>741758298I think every other extraction shooter has safe slots and a clearer progression systems too.if you're a new player it's hard to figure out what you're even supposed to be doing:should you collect salvage? that just lets you buy more stuff in the shops, that's it?should you be trying to get better weapons? for what? that cryo mode you keep dying in in the map you dont understand?money? so you can buy gear from the shop that wont even amount to enough to get you into cryo?should you be pouring all gear into cradle xp?killing other players for dismal xp?All this going on while being stomped in 80% of games by purple shields on perimeter farming Arachne XP.it takes 30 hours to even have a handle on long term goals so I fully get why people bounce off.if you have a good trio and understand the game, it's fun - but barely anyone makes it through the great filter.
maratroon is RAPED
>>741758865>spawnrushed 2 minutesthis is accurate, but the solution isn't to get lucky and be a pussy, it's to get good and be the team that gets into control/rotate in 90 seconds
>>741768009stable 500 is enough for matches chud
>>741764015sulfur is really good though
>>741729857a bit too late I'd saythey had their chance for a first impression, and they blew it
>>741734238more like at this point, people have grown tired of shitposting about it.so on top of not being able to retain its players, it cannot even retain the people making fun of it either
>>741747764Let me get this straight, they made an entire separate game that just fucking Gambit?
>>741735987>Content vaulting alone is the most inexcusable lack of foresight I think I’ve ever seen from a developer.As someone who never played Destiny, it still cracks me up that they just deleted finished content from the game, kekFor what fucking reason.
>>741766512>its a bloody bitch shit game saar
>>741761239well you lose all your loot every season anyways aside from cosmetics and shit, so i guess the fun of these kinds of games is just playing it. here you can just pretend you got really lucky and never encountered enemy players, because there are none.
>>741729857I would really love to know what kind of reception Bungie was expecting for Marathon. It's so obviously hostile and offputting to anyone who isn't a mentally ill poopsocker or masochist that it's impossible to ignore.
>>741768496500 having a blast, you having a blast? im having a blast looking at that 500 having a blastblast trademarked
>>741768964I can see people getting bored of shitting on a game that's clearly staying around lel
>>741757663Destiny pvp was pretty much centered on the assumption you grinded out specific weapons before seriously participating, now I think destiny pvp is putrid horseshit their fandom did seem to at least enjoy it
>>741769594>clearly staying aroundmore like they are dragging out the inevitable death because the financial losses incurred from that are still easier to stomach than the reputation damage from going full Concord
didn't sea of thieves add a pve mode that had half the stuff missing too? so dumb
You wouldn't believe the conmen that are at the top of big companies
>>741768496yet not enough to support the cost of keeping the game alive, curious
>>741769594I play this game nightly and the MM is getting rough. "Staying around" can take many forms, but it cannot stay around once the MM has to accommodate 200ms ping differentials and 5 minute wait times...
>>741760556Destiny raiding is one of the best experiences in gaming. Althoughbeit, the rest of the game is mediocre to dogshit.
>>741769107You lost, maratranny
>>741771945What are the raids in Destiny?
>>741740849>quit being pussies and play the extraction mode if you want the good skins>here is a mode to even get you acclimatedWhats the problem? I swear you singleplayer shitlords have no shame… same fags measuring each others dicks with souls games btw. Absolute clowns.
>>741771882>I play this gameno you don't
>>741773383some people don't wanna play PvP. Simple as that
>>741774214>buy pvp game>don't want to play pvp???
>>741775628don't include any PvE then, that E is what the majority wants
They should have just made Destiny 3
>>741776238They should’ve just made good games
>>741734515your opinion is invalid pajeet
>>741773907
>>741759484>Could you elaborate? I have no idea what this means.dead by daylight has a tranny monster so ugly is made the VA kill themselves, World of Warcraft has gay centaurs and a trans dragon and probably more i dont know about, guilty gear strive has at least 2 trans characters so they are games for freaks, like Marathon
>>741745397I'm surprised any subreddit can have "hate" in it. I knew it was over for that shithole after FPH got purged
how hard is it to make solo a real thing? this is crazy we know for a fact most people play alone most of the time just rework everything to be solo and let people team up for shit like cryo inside of the mission
>>741771971lost what? the battle of SteamDB?
>>741761239Because, loot or not, it's probably the only way 75% of players would ever see that map given what you have to do just to get there each week.
>>741782096If you mean just making it playable, it already isIf you mean making it worth playing theoretically, you'd probably just have to increase the spawn rate of mercy kits so you can revive anyone you team up with in-match and cut down on the USEC spawns by like 30-40% and lower Warden and Commander health by about the same since damn near every map event and quest objective involves spawning and defeating a number of bots tuned for 3 players and you probably wouldn't often convince two solos to work with you, but otherwise everything else already works fine for solosIf you mean making it work in practice, I dunno, odds are the numbers and positions of bot spawns are hard coded in a way Bungie can't change without fucking up a dozen other things that shouldn't be related at all.
>>741729857>playercount so high they have to add PvE to keep tards engagednice
>>741767950It's because Marathon is probably the highest profile live service game that's flopped, which means it could take the entire live service model with it. Being attached to Bungie, also a known entity in gaming, gives it an even higher profile.
>>741768496Soon, Marathon will just be a few dozen hardcore rapists locked in the same room together, forever.It makes me think of those South American prisons where the guards just toss people in and keep watch from the walls but don't go down to help anyone.
>>741729857>make a PvE mode in extraction shooter where you don't keep the loot you extract withI'm sure this will attract players to the game.
>>741761960the whole appeal of this genre is the carrot on the stick, remove the carrot and horses aren't going to keep walking forward just for the hell of it
>>741762931>Id rather the game failYou got your wish.
>>741778687Oi vittu :--DDD
nigga you balding
Casuls won
>>741735327Oh yes sir wait until you hear about destiny 1 and 2Bungees only survived because they got lucky three times and managed to make 3 fantastic destiny expansions that made people stick around: The Taken King, Forsaken, and The Witch Queen
>>741787483meant for >>741778687
>lower than it was before the free weekULTRA RAPED
>everyone farmed the compiler 3 weeks into season 1>still acting like fighting a destiny strike boss is a big deal>confirmed no new map for season 3, only rework of perimeter They are desperate for anything at this point and I don't blame them.
>>741787641>saar the lines saar look at the lines
>>741787641>player count crashes on the stress test weekend>player count crashes after launch>player count crashes after free weekyeah i'm thinking KWABOTY
>>741788313ironic
>>741788791This is not a Ubigame doebeit
>>741789103ok babeljeet
>>741788313hows it feel knowing all of your effort shilling on this bullshit chinese cartoon website was for absolutely nothing
get #rekt chuds
I'm studying Marathon's comeback.
>>741789213why do chuds talk as if the game had shut down already?
>game is a ransom letter to the fans
>>741735987>I have no idea how Destiny as a franchise lasted as long as it did.The king of gaming set it up.
>>741784919The latter obviously because it's really not tuned for the content is antisocial in its current state
>>741729857This actually sounds dope, i will try it since i already own this piece of trash.I still wouldnt recommend anyone to buy this game.
>>741772157https://www.destinypedia.com/Raid
>>741789103Bungie is a class operation. They use european based shills.
>>741772157NTA but the best way I would describe them would be something closer to like, classic 3D Zelda-era style dungeons you play in co-op with 5 other players/friends. You are sent into bespoke unique environments and areas to traverse and platform through areas until you come across one of several major combat encounters that must be resolved effectively through puzzle solving within the framework of Bungie's sandbox and engine.Some of those encounters might be actual bosses, which typically result in needing to solve encounter puzzles in order to unlock windows of opportunity for your team to inflict damage, but sometimes the encounter might be something entirely different. For example, the very first raid encounter of the first raid in Destiny 2 (not playable anymore lol thanks Bungie) took place in this massive environment where your team had to effectively play capture the flag against an infinite spawning horde of enemies. You needed to have team members defend your flag while strike teams would fight through other parts of the map to retrieve and capture enemy flags with the intensity of combat ramping up the more flags you took (and if enemies overwhelm the defending portion of the team they were able to take their flags back) There was always a wide variety of mechanics and gameplay scenarios the raids would present as they push the limits of what the Tiger engine could do. There's truly nothing else really like them in the industry, but Destiny always struggled with social features to make getting groups for raids possible so even the majority of Destiny players have never experienced any of them.
