>see a majora mask thread a few days ago with anons talking about the first 3 days loop>lots of anons talking about failing or using a guide>"huh maybe finally a zelda with some puzzle challenge">my curiosity is piqued, start playing it>fairy tells you to urgently go north so i try to figure out the map>first npc i find is tinkle the faggot who sells a map>dont even have to think about mapping area myself at all>solve all the npc chores and went around the whole town in the first in game day>that was easy >2 days remaining and i have no fucking idea what to do>fuck it's actually hard now>"door only opens at midnight before carnival">literally no one is talking about a carnival except some argument in mayor office and some vague stuff but no one says when it is>do i have to trigger the carnival somehow?>do i have to trade the hole deed somewhere>hole seems useless can just reach a npc that says nothing and a chest with nothing>wtf do i do to get out wtf guards say i need a weapon>can only buy bombs but cant use them>spend 40 real time minutes just wandering around trying to find anything>nothing to find>turns out you just had to wait or pass time since i already had everything>why the fuck isnt there a single npc telling you when it occurs>get to the skull kid encounter>i just learned the ocarina song so i can reset the loop>but he's floating in front of me and i cant hit him, there's a timer>am i supposed to find a way to hit him before timer runs out>am i supposed to use the song in which case i would fail the timer>if i reset i will surely lose the ocarina therefore surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupid>it's that. have to play the song. but somehow you keep the ocarina>why tf do you keep it but not rupees etc>zero logic to item retentionI can already tell it's another stupid poorly designed game that just loves waiting your time with arbitrary nonsense and only propped up by retards who beat it with a guide when they were 9
I read the full post and I'm not sure if you made this thread in good faith, partially because of the innecessary use of ''retards'' of course.
>>741737178>if i reset i will surely lose the ocarina therefore surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupidOkay so... the game expects you to have played Ocarina of Time before playing this one, Anon....
tl:dryour attempted revisionism failed
>>741737178It's my favorite zelda and your opinion is peepee poopoo. Unironically.
>>741737178pretty sure you are told when the carnival takes place.
>>741737178also when you pull out the ocarina in front of skull kid it plays a chime letting you know that you are supposed to play a song. pay attention retard.
>>741737505In OoT you keep your rupees when you travel back in time
>>741738095in OoT you don't lose the fucking ocarina when you travel in time because it's literally the ocarina to travel in time, which is something everyone knows and there would be no reason for OP to be afraid of losing the Ocarina if he had played the previous game
>wastes your timeThese are all the Zelda games, and all Nintendo games in general.When I found the first fairy in Zelda: TOTK, I spent fucking 30 MINUTES watching those animations just to upgrade everything I wanted.That game is almost unbearable. A lot of it is just filler to mask the loading screens, but even so, it’s painful to play.
>>741738184You don't use the ocarina to travel time in that game. You travel with the master sword pedestal.
>>741737178
>>741741212OP is either a shitty troll or a special kind of retarded.
>>741741449Why not both?
>>741743236True. He COULD be like the one dude who got lost because he kept skipping all the text.
>>741737178The point of the first loop (the tutorial) is to make you feel lost and confused because you're in a strange new world, and then you slowly piece together everything that's going on. It's not wasting your time if it's an intentional part of the experience and worldbuilding. Plus, if you know what to do, you can complete all the tasks quickly and then use the scarecrow to skip to the last night.At least get a feel for the game first before you start complaining... The fun of Majora is discovering all the quests and working out how to efficiently complete as many quests as possible each time you restart the loop.
>>741743395? he didn't say anything about getting lost
>>741744105You were retarded enough to read OP's entire post?
>you know how the worst part of any zelda or any japanese game is always dialogue with npcs and having to mash confirm dozens of time? let's make a whole game where you have to restart dialogues every time
Truth is, Majora's Mask is truly a high IQ game and not everyone makes the cut. Sorry OP.
>>741744156He was retarded enough to miss the point of what I said, so...most likely, yes.
>>741737178>>if i reset i will surely lose the ocarina therefore surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupid>>it's that. have to play the song. but somehow you keep the ocarinawow, you are kinda dumb dude.
>>741738184This is entirely irrelevant.OP is simply retarded because he doesnt follow his own logic.>>if i reset i will surely lose the ocarina therefore surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupid>>surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupidis correct. its not that, because you dont lose ocarina.Keep in mind at no point has retard OP ever been told by the game that he will lose his items. so why would he even think that? The moron is playing the game based on 3rd party information then complaining when the game doesnt adhere to his speculations based on 3rd party information.OP has been once again proven to be a faggot. imagine my shock.
>>741744493the manual says there's a time loop
>>741744360>>he is using two >s for a greentext>but he only needs one>>>why is he using two
>>741744625Oh come on now, do you REALLY think he got his hand on a sealed copy of the game?
>nobody tells me when the carnival islol>I have to somehow hit him before the timer runs outof the 2 things a deku can do, you never did mention getting that ability>somehow knows that you'll lose rupees before ever going through the loopI'm pretty sure you can't buy bombs before getting a bag either so claiming you did is wrong too.Im not sure if this guy actually pretended to moan about the game or if he's too stupid to figure out the purpose of progression in a time loop.
>>741744676hello newfag retard
I like watching women cry at the ending of OOT and MM, it's my low brow hobby
>>741745159why would they cry at the ending
>>741745130hello oldfag how are you doing
>>741745207idk women be crying
>>741737178you can say that again
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>>741747348I've always figured that Link is basically just getting shaken around during the time travel and his loose shit just goes flying. It's a LOT easier to hold onto a quiver, a bag, and anything that can be secured. But 50 arrows, 30 loose nuts, and 50 bombs? Not a chance.
>>741737178mangina's mask
>>741737178Bait.
>>741737178Didn't read. You're an idiot.
>>741737762>pretty sure you are told when the carnival takes place.Where?
>>741737178>mom i trolled them again>they got mad when i posted it
>>741744035>It's not wasting your time if it's an intentional part of the experienceMajora's Mask critics like OP never wanted an experience.
>>741737178you could have wasted my time with me having to read all thatbut i recongized it was very low quality, and didn'tyou could do that too, if you stop being inexperienced at gaming, and social skills
>>741737178>>zero logic to item retentionYou keep "items". You don't keep anything you have a count of, like ammo, money, or bombs. That is the logic.>but that doesn't make any sense!!!Explain how.
>>741744881He somehow got Tingle down and got the ocarina without getting the ability to shoot. Curious! Sounds almost like he didn't actually play the game and instead read a guide until he hit something he objected to...
Is this an essay thread?
I beat this game before I even knew what jerking off was and had a great time. You are presumably an adult and typing an essay about how filtered you got by it.
>>741737178Op is a yellow paint retard
>>741757103Oh absolutely.
>>741752837I tried shooting but he keeps dodging, considering it's zelda it's fair to assume it could be a puzzle boss encounter with another trick to take him down but you have to play the song
>>741737178children played and beat the game just fine btw
>>741757970He'd HAVE to shoot him. Continuing to shoot him just says "that won't do you any good". Tatl gives you a giant hint when you get the ocarina back. If he ISN'T lying, he's one of the biggest retards I have ever seen.
>>741757970Did you misread my post? You didn't talk about getting the ability to shoot before you did anything requiring it. It's one of the few things you can do in the tutorial.I'm not saying there was clearly some secret way to win.
>>741749742The mask salesman tells you the clock tower only opens at midnight on the day of the festival. This is an unmissable dialogue. He will repeat this until the next step. Several other NPCs also mention it.
>>741760935Retard can't read. Shocker.
>>741738650Sun's song
>>741737178Didn't read any of that, retard
How does time travelling work?If Link playa the song, Tatl will travel to the past with Link even if it's not his Fairy, is It because of proximity?But if Link has the Deku princess in a bottle, she will not time travel back to the past with Link, why is that? (Besides the obvious answer "it's a Game and that would break the quest")
>>741762643Well, Tatl usually hides in his hat, and when he plays the song, the Goddess Of Time sends him back. She's probably just deliberately NOT ejecting Tatl.
>>741737178I remember really liking MM when I was younger, but I replayed it recently with the recomp and honestly didn't find it very fun.I remember liking how open ended it was in a sort of metroidvania way, and I do still like optimizing my schedule to get a ton of stuff in a single cycle. But it ultimately is still very linear and most masks are pointless outside of the main masks, the bomb mask, the stone mask and the bunny hood.Was kind of bored and confused going through woodfall and snowhead, had fun after going to the ranch to beat the aliens, getting the stone mask and then getting all the zora eggs. Still ended up stopping on great bay temple because I simply wasn't feeling it anymore.
>>741763606>>plays the shitty recomp>>mad that it isn't the samebruh
>>741762643>Deku princessShe is female and the game is correctly identifying her as a consumable item.
>>741760935no he doesn'twhat other npcs? give me the listwtf is this gas lighting why are zelda fags always making shit up
>>741763695I'm not mad it isn't the same. That was not what I said.The point is that once you know the game and you don't have that sense of discovery it's not that fun.When you first play it you might be trying to start all kinds of sidequest and getting hyped for masks and the game seems massive and open ended. But when you know it better a lot of those things are pointless now since you only care about a handful of masks, half of which are just for convenience.I guess if I learned some speedrun sequence break stuff I could make it more engaging but I don't think I want to dedicate the time and effort on it.
>>741763867Speak for yourself. Your opinion is just that. An opinion. And a wrong one at that. I replay it every few months. I even 100% it.
>>741760935Several non-essential npc's bring it up. OP is a retard who can't read or go in the right direction unless there's a trail of yellow paint, so he wouldn't have found them,
>>741764008>Speak for yourself. Your opinion is just that. An opinion. And a wrong one at that.lol why are you being so defensive?>I replay it every few months.sounds like mental illness>I even 100% it.so have I, what about it?
>>741763737Tatl, Granny, The Professor(He literally says that the doors open at midnight on the night of the carnival), and a few more. You didn't TALK to them or read what they said, so of course your retarded ass wouldn't have figured it out.
>>741764059Enjoying a game is not mental illness, retard. Your opinion is wrong. Just like retards who claim that a game mechanic is "outdated". Just say that YOU DON'T LIKE IT. It's still fun. YOUR tastes have just changed.
>>741764193>Enjoying a game is not mental illnessThe issue isn't enjoying a game, it's you replaying it every few months.The definition of insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again and expecting different results. That's what you're doing being overly obsessive with the game.>Your opinion is wrong. Just like retards who claim that a game mechanic is "outdated". Just say that YOU DON'T LIKE IT. It's still fun.Again, just chill. It's not that big of a deal.>YOUR tastes have just changed.Yes, they improve with time, I'm more observant and wise and thus harder to entertain. Can't be with the same video toys forever
>>741764303Your "definition" is retarded and wrong. Go inside, destroy everything you've every watched, read, or enjoyed once before. Then you'll see how full of shit you are.I also don't "expect different results". I ENJOY the journey. I even do CHALLENGE RUNS ffs. Now eat shit, retard.
>>741764415>Your "definition"It's not mine>I ENJOY the journey. I even do CHALLENGE RUNS ffs.You do challenge runs because the vanilla game isn't enjoyable enough anymore.
>>741737178It translated the puzzle solving core of Zelda to its side quests while managing the 3-day cycle. No other Zelda game has done anything like that.
>>741764482It IS your definition. The definition of insanity is as follows: ----insanitynounin·san·i·ty in-ˈsa-nə-tē plural insanitiesSynonyms of insanity1dated : a severely disordered state of the mind usually occurring as a specific disorder2law : unsoundness of mind or lack of the ability to understand that prevents someone from having the mental capacity required by law to enter into a particular relationship, status, or transaction or that releases someone from criminal or civil responsibility3a: extreme folly or unreasonablenessthe insanity of violenceHis comments were pure insanity.b: something utterly foolish or unreasonablethe insanities of modern life----And no, I do challenge runs because I'm curious about how far I can push the game. Now shut the fuck up, retard.
>>741764587Oh, well. Try to not troon out too hard in the future.
>>741763867It's probably because your brain realized that MM is a chore checklist game. Once you get everything you need, there isn't really a need to do everybody's side quest unless you just feel like going for the 100% and effortlessly shitting on Majora.
>>741737178I was a kid, but no guide. Just played limited games for years and eventually learned it inside and out. For a player gayly speedrunning it though yeah the worldbuilding would be annoying running you around.
>>741764619And yet AGAIN you show your illiteracy. You're a special kind of stupid, ain't ya?
>>741764652>It's probably because your brain realized that MM is a chore checklist game.True, but other games like super metroid are also chore checklists but I can replay it more often and keep having fun. I assume because the movement is inherently more interesting.
>>741764652I like fighting Majora using the intended methods rather than simply ripping him to shreds with the Fierce Deity.
>>741737178You are why the "open world sandbox" games have to beat you over the head with their tutorials that now make it mandatory to stop what you're doing to learn about fucking Heart Containers.
>>741764157>Tatl, Granny, The Professor(He literally says that the doors open at midnight on the night of the carnival), and a few more. You didn't TALK to them or read what they said, so of course your retarded ass wouldn't have figured it out.tatl doesn't say anything about a carnival or when it's supposed to occur>The Professor(He literally says that the doors open at midnight on the night of the carnivalI literally mentioned that one line, is the whole source of confusion since there's no info about WHEN a carnival is supposed to happen>grannyfound her in wheelchair in hotel and she doesn't say anything meaningful "tortus are you ready?" wtf does that have to do with a carnivalyou can't tell me where in the intro is this information about the carnival occurring at the end of the 3 days because it isn't there, there is no connection established between the two things, there is no way to ask npcs questions, you're only speaking from the perspective of already knowing the game, concession accepted
>>741765338HE LITERALLY SAYS THAT THEY OPEN AT MIDNIGHT. HE TOLD YOU WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO. HOLY SHIT, LEARN TO READ..As for granny...LISTEN TO HER STORIES. Fucking retard.
>>741765401Mutoh LITERALLY spells it out for you if you weren't too retarded to talk to him.
>>741737178didnt read past the title, the complaint about games "respecting your time" is always so phony. Your time is worth less than nothing.
>>741737178You're a filtered faggot, no one will ever care about your existence or opinion. I love video games and how much they make you angry. Just like this post.
>>741765401>>741765489there were no granny stories, she just said her weird line without offering more dialogueI restarted the game just to check dialogue and she has different dialogue between day and night, she only offers stories during the day so that's why I didn't see thatshe doesn't mention the date either but at least it's some context about the carnival being a thingsame with mutoh, when you try to dialogue in the mayor office he just loops his argument with the guard but I guess if you wait for him to leave and try when he's outside he must have more dialogueso that's gonna be half the game, waiting for arbitrary conditions to trigger and stalking npcs to see if they have different dialogue at different hours, amazing gameplay
>>741766439Mutoh BLATANLY says that "he thinks the village can hold out for the three days until the carnival"STFU retard.
>>741764619>TroonBut you're acting like the biggest feminized little bitch in the thread though?
>>741737178>>i just learned the ocarina song so i can reset the loop>>but he's floating in front of me and i cant hit him, there's a timer>>am i supposed to find a way to hit him before timer runs out>>am i supposed to use the song in which case i would fail the timer>>if i reset i will surely lose the ocarina therefore surely it cannot be that cuz that'd be stupid>>it's that. have to play the song. but somehow you keep the ocarina>>why tf do you keep it but not rupees etc>>zero logic to item retention>I can already tell it's another stupid poorly designed game that just loves waiting your time with arbitrary nonsense and only propped up by retards who beat it with a guide when they were 9
>>741763737This is the first time you meet the salesman. I meant when you talk to him again when coming back from the Observatory, after you find that Skull Kid is on the top of the tower.Otherwise, the Astronomer tells it to you when fiding Skull Kid, and Talt tells you when trying to open the door to the tower before midnight.
ALL games waste your time. They aren't productive whatsoever.
>>741767309There's nothing you can do with time except waste it. "Productivity" is a lie made up by shareholders.
>>741766569wherehe doesnt say this in the office
>>741767413have family, lifecel
>>741765401but anon, there was no yellow paint on the door, how was this poor hylic human cattle supposed to know where to go without the Yellow Paint of Retard Guidance
watch majora’s mask be glazed as the better 64 zelda game now that ocarina is getting remade
>>741737178>another stupid overrated game that wastes your time with arbitrary crapsounds like project nortubel
>>741766720Thank you.
>>741767831PFFFT. I'm SO stealing that.
>>741767831wtf is with these stupid comments missing the point
>>741768431What is with the stupid niggers on /v/that are apparently dumber than 12 year old me
>>741767729Jewish.
>>741768829no i meant a regular family
>>741768861I'm sure (((you))) have plenty of honest intentions about maintaining shareholder values and propping up the economy with the blood of young men.
>>741738349or twilight princess where at one point you need to go to a town and back twice despite the goal being totally accomplishable in one visit
>>741737178Why do people defend this shit so hard? Why would you ever open this post, read the bullshit an average player goes through and then say "hurr durr that's actually good!". It's fucking retarded to make game logic nonsensical and impossible to figure out. This ain't complicated
>>741770040This dude is NOT average. He makes DSP look like a straight C student.
>>741770040>read the bullshit an average player goes throughNobody would assume anything is lost on their first reset, much less instantly guessing that the ocarina would be lost somehow. That requires a rather nonsensical leap of logic.
>>741770679>>741770679>much less instantly guessing that the ocarina would be lost somehow.ESPECIALLY after the flashback you get upon picking it up.
>>741770136kys i figured out everything on the first day and talked to most npcs there was nothing else to do except wait and wander around for 40 minutes or time skip with the scarecrow, which i wasnt going to do because there was no confirmation i had fulfilled everything so of course i wanted to find out more stuff and the carnival stuff was worded ambiguouslymy whole rant could have easily been fixed with just one character at the start saying "hey btw the carnival is in 3 days" and multiple anons have claimed they say that but haven't been able to prove it, it's only confirmed information in hindsightalways the same retards with their convenient narratives like "hurr dsp yellow paint" whenever someone point out shit design>>741770679it's basic time loop logic and a perfectly normal thing to question before you confirm playing the song while the timer is still running out for your first time
>>741771774>kysOoh, did I strike a nerve? LOL
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>>741771862i just checked the first two blind playthroughs on youtube and they both failed the first loop and took 2+ hours to get the ocarinai had solved all the requirements in the first day (less than 15 minutes)the game punished me for being too goodmy problem is that im the anti dsp i'm too good and too smart for such shit games, i actually question things, i'm inquisitive and verify things, and im too aware of their design flaws and when i point out how full of arbitrary crap they are, completely fair remarks and it's non stop gas lighting and empty narrativesgenuinely pisses me off because i've only seen this behavior with zelda cultists you're all mentally ill and built these narratives that these games are beyond criticism or that anyone daring to point their inconsistent and arbitrary design out must be yellow paint dsp when they actually punish 3 digits iqsyes kys
>>741772682A TON of people failed their first cycle, either because they were too young to know their cardinal directions or because they were too slow. You ain't special, DSP-Lite.
OP may be exaggerating to piss of the MM is perfect crowd, but the game does legitimately have one of the worst tutorial segments in Zelda. How some anons shit on OoT's optional tutorial while thinking that MM's minimum hour long one is fine I'll never know.
>>741773790It's not an hour long. It's about 30 minutes, and if done reasonably efficiently, the objectives take about 15 to 20, which gives you time to wander around, get your bearings, etcMost first time players don't DO it efficiently, so it's usually closing in on the final hours by the time they're ready to go up there.
