Strogg from Quake 2 are cool enemies
I agree, and it's a crime we didn't get a Quake 5. Really liked Quake Wars.
I think they're a cool concept that they failed to take anywhere more interesting.
They should expand upon the Quakeverse in the sequel
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>>741747594such a fun multiplayer game especially the spy type
yeah I always thought the strogg were cool and spooky. I got very little time with quake wars but I remember really enjoying it. It was console only or something wasn't it?
>>741747293I always thought they were awesome.>>741747943The implications that they're the result of humans coming into contact with Lovecratian stuff in in the remaster and like jumped dimensions or something is pretty cool. It explains why they want to "convert" humanity in the first place and why they see normal humans as traitors.
>>741749884>The implications that they're the result of humans coming into contact with Lovecratian stuff in in the remaster and like jumped dimensionsQrd?
>>741749884wait what? i thought strogg were an alien race using the meat of different races they conquered? they changed it to lovecraft stuff? not sure i like that
>>741747293What a coincidence, I just finished playing through Quake 2 and all the expansions for the first time today and a thread pops up. They're very cool conceptually and visually but as enemies you fight against I massively prefer the Quake 1 bestiary. Feels like too many engagements are solved by peeking corners whereas in q1 each monster can easily be fought head on, although the lack of air control in q2 may be a big contributing factor to that.>>741750437>>741750443In the new Nightdive expansion it's revealed that the Strogg are thralls of the original eldritch Quake monsters, and the final boss you face is a pair of shamblers. Though it's all about as canon as the original 2 expansions afaik, which is to say not at all.
I like that Strogg and Peeker in QC are very emotional for a Strogg cus they're cut off from everyone else
>>741750437>>741750443Nothing really explicit. The Strogg has always used the same emblem that appears on boxes in Quake 1 and the bad humans have like stuff implanted in their heads that makes them evil or something. The Quake 1 remaster shows the humans digging deep and discovering the lovecraftian stuff that takes control of them and they have a space ship with all the monsters on it. Then in the Quake 2 remaster it refers to the ultimate Strogg "creator" or whatever and you go deep down into an ancient temple complex and fight some shamblers. It's a way of connecting the two games, but take it or leave it.
So why is Q2 unpopular compared to Q1? Pathfinding?
>>741752164Q2 always felt more like a tech demo to me back in the day. The coolest part was the Strogg and the weird body horror enemy design but actually playing the game felt worse than Q1. Music felt more like buttrock and lacked that very atmospheric spooky evil shit Trent Reznor did for Q1.
>>741749862>. It was console only or something wasn't it?no, it was on PC.
>>741752408>no, it was on PC.well shit, I missed out on the chance to do that then.
>>741750758Quake 1 always was related with Quake 2. Humanity got their tech because of dealing with the Warp Gates, which also brought the Strogg to Earth.Quake 3 Arena has the Arena masters pulling people from Earth across time.This lore is kept even in Quake Champions.Wolfenstein, Quake, Doom are all connected via the Warp Gates.
>>741752164People already bitch about backtracking and damage sponge enemies in Quake 1, all of that is ramped up to 11 in Quake 2
>>741747293>Unpopular OpinionHuh? Why is it unpopular? Everyone thinks that Stroggs are coolUsually in games like this they botch the "new" designs, but I actually like Q4 stroggs all the same as the Q2 onesThey give off this dirty, rusty, bloody and disgusting vibe of walking decomposing corpses. But at the same time they're pretty agile, fast and have heavy gunsAnd they have girls with massive tits!And I also like the Q2 remake. I'm not that much of a purist and while I don't like some minor parts about it, I still think it's cool and the new enhanced models are fucking amazing. Keeping that crusty pixelated look while adding more polygons is a good touch and it only makes the game better
I enjoyed quake 2 campaign more thanthe first game, which just kind of felt like whatever
Wait is quake 4not just an arena shooter like 3? I never played it because I assumed it was and i don't like multiplayer games
>>741750437Fan theory because fans have nothing else to doQ1 and Q2 have nothing in common story wise. The devs were just making "cool" games about whatever, they didn't care about "story" that much to actually make a series of gamesSource: the book Masters of Doom. A must read for everyone who loves Doom and Quake and Carmack and Romero
>>741747293>start playing this character in qc and top fragging>character immediately gets nerfed to fetus level after being unchanged for yearsTARGETED
>>741747293they are cool enemies, but their games are boring
>>741752164>>741752329I'm not in a mood to troll, but I still don't like Q1 fags who are like >oooohhhh, 2 enemies on the screen (NOT A TECH DEMO AT ALL) and le "eerie" synth non-music! Amazing!>what? plenty of enemies, better graphics, kick ass music, cool guns and hardcore atmosphere of a gritty sci fi action movie?>not for me unfortunately.....They listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c67dIM0R-CE and are like >this is FIREHuhh???????????????????????????Faggot, listen to THIShttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l83q4W9m-0s
>>741747293They're cool, better than a lot of fps enemies. I just prefer the eldritch monsters.
>>741753469>can't appreciate a good moody, atmospheric soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IE1NmyrbWAQ1 was built to fit a horror ambiance, Q2 was built to fit rock.
>>741753879Bloodborne has a better take on thisYou literally can't see and comprehend themStroggs are better FPS enemies because they're just decomposing cyborgs driven by a bigger war machine. You shoot a rocket and they gib>eldritch monstersWhy do your faggot rockets work on them?
>>741754040>defensive for no reasonkek
>>741753085It is, the multiplayer is where Slash and Strogg's crouch slide in QC comes fromThe singleplayer was divisive because it was a Doom3 clone
>>741754040I'm more inclined to believe a rocket capable of doing damage to a Lovecraftian horror than a pizza cutter.
>>741754040Cthulhu is knocked out by a literal boat bumping into his head in the original book, something being eldritch has nothing to do with how ethereal something is.
>>741754004>posting D64Ultimate Doom on PS1 was betterSame composer too and the music there is fine, yesIt's just that you don't fight 1 (one) enemy at a time like in Quake, or 2 (two) enemies at a time like in Doom 64Also Doom PSX had thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtH-L5CZFA0
Q1=Q2>QC>QL>Q4
>>741754309>Ultimate Doom on PS1 was betterDisagreed. Doom PS1's ost felt like the prototype and D64's felt like the final product. Not to say PS1's ost didn't have a few good ones.DANNY WONHEY
>>741747293I love the Strogg but they suffer from the show-not-tell issue. Just lose the narration and it's golden.
>>741752164The main thing i remember (it's been a while) is how many more buttons and backtracking you have to do in 2.
>>7417530854 has the Stroggification
My last memory of Quake 4 was doing a LAN match with my sister's friend before shortly after he got arrested and expelled (along with his twin brother) for spray painting the school gymnasium
I always hear about Quake 1 mods everyone loves but what about some good Quake 2 mods? I know they exist but I've never once heard them mentioned by name
>>741752164performance issues
>>741747293This opinion is only "unpopular" because most people do not have an opinion on Quake 2. It is not that the contrary position is popular instead, such as people disliking the Strogg.
>>741754337>QCHuh? Why is it even on your list? It has no business there
>>741747293Strogg Infiltrator is a rad design. I love him. And then they gave him crouchsliding and then I loved him even more.
>>741754980It's the best multiplayer game of the past two decades
>>741755209Stroyboy best boy
Strogged to meet you
Bump
>>741749634Sorry, I don't speak Spanish
>>741758986Signora
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>>741762194Nah, no one caresI'd like to post here more too, but zoomers and thirdworlders don't care about good games from the past
>>741762385Kys
>>741762406Nigger
>>741762702Faggot
>>741747293I have good memories of watching my dad playing Quake 2 on our PSX back in 2001, he used to be extremely good at console shooters at that time. I also remember when they released it for free and that's when I played it, quite enjoyed it. Is the version from Internet Archive good and working?
>>741747293Not really controversial opinion
because msot people eitehr aprrot or do contrarians tuff about q2I remember when it as released. The biggest point of Q1 was that it was not only the first true 3d game, but even if it was made without 3d, it was a very good shooter with excellent atmosphere. it was revolutionaryQ2 was just another of several 3d shooters released. It was also excellent. It also racked hundreds upon hundreds of hours in multiplayers. Both q1 and q2 having sucha massive online presence resulted in q3 being arena shooter. But since quake 2 was only a very good shooter and not somethign revolutonary like q1, people often diminish it in comaprision to q1To this day, I liek both and ic an tell which game does somethign better, but I cannot say that q1 or q2 is better. For me both are sign of ancient perfection, a game made to be fun to playalso thanks for yesterday thread, completely forgot about arcane dimension mod for q1. Holy fucking shit, how I kept delaying that for 10 years
>>741764798Did you have a stroke?
>>741764873yes
>>741749634COMPUTER UPDATED
Q5/6 when?
This was the perfect game and it didn't last long and was criminally underrated. It seems like it got memoryholed, glowniggers didn't want white people to have access to such an amazing thing.
>>741747293when was the last time we got a game where aliens were comically evil and needed to be destroyed to save the world?
>>741766803>post the perfect game>thread stopsGlowniggers don't want you to know about the white man's video game.
>>741767363I don't think even the CIA or anyone else for that matter cares about Quake Wars
>>741766892Doom Eternal, yes Demons count
I hope they have something decent to announce for the 30th anniversary at QuakeCon, even if it's just another expansion for one of the older games.
>>741747293>Unpopular OpinionSometimes Debra Wilson is a good choice. She should do more monsters.
>>741771085She's a pretty good voice actress when she has proper direction, it's just that her face is used over and over for weird and obviously motivated reasons. Also prefer hearing her even when she's phoning it in over any of the faggots from the funimation school of anime dub voice acting.
>>741747293I wouldn't say unpopular. Quake 2 was simply too different in terms of story than Q1, which is why some people bitched about it at the time, but when viewed as its own thing, it's pretty good.
Thought the quake war stroggs were the most peak portrayal of them.
>>741766803It was good, but it wasn't Wolfenstein.
>>741752856i prefer the more raw feeling the quake 2 monsters have. Quake 4 on the other hand had better body horror blended with the environment
>>741754802"call of the void" is probably the best out there
>>741774871Call of the Foid
>>741752856Q2 Iron Maidens are cool. I like gibbing them. I wish we could gib them all instead of some being unkillable.I only played the Q2 remaster but the way the music worked felt a bit off. Like it would start and never loop so there's be what felt like long stretches of gameplay without music. Felt different from playing Q1 ('s remaster).
>>741777747>I like gibbing themI can see why.
>>741747293Playing Quake in 1999 and the year 2000 is such a fade memory for me now.
