Amazing they talk to them in the first place, after they won against the Rotschilds.
>>741763886>SURES WOULD BE ASHAME IF THAT NEAT LOOKIN STEAM BOX YOU'S BUILDING THERES COSTED 1400 CLAMSOh wait...
well duh ram is in high demand, they get to set the price and you don't get to refuseit's the equivalent of a moid complaining that he has to jestermaxx to women because he holds no leverage
Did someone say "kill all RAM producers" and "burn down every AI data center"?
>>741763951It costs 1050$ tho
>>741763886Why doesn't valve just make a ram factory instead of flushing money on more yatch?
Do you think they should have just shelved the gabecube entirely
>>741763978But only in Minecraft, and you can't do that without RAM.
>>741763998because ram sticks are made of 548 different components, each of which are manufactured by a different company, and must be sourced individually from each, who all have competing buyers
>>741763886I don’t get to negotiate the 30% steam cut do I gabe? Hypocrite bitches at valve
>>741764042This nigga can mostly do it in a shed. Kind of pathetic valve can'thttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6GWikWlAQA
>>741763983The 500gb one doesn't count. Who's buying that? You install 3 modern games and you're just about out of space. And if you're just playing older games or emulating, just buy a chinese minipc for much less.
The poor fuck who brainstormed this thing must be sweating bullets.Anyways when do WE dronestrike ram producers?
>>741763983>buying 512- 15GB version
>>741763978With the taxpayer funded infrastructure invested into data centers, I have no doubt in my mind that after the first burnt down datacenter governments will pass a shoot on sight law for trespassers.
RAM manufacturers are a literal cartel, they have complete control over the market and destroy any attempts at competition starting up.
>>741764187people will call this capitalism despite it being a market failure that happens 10,000 times worse in any other economic system
>>741763886/v/ does not appreciate just how fucked the hardware monopoly is. There are like 5 companies in the world that make high performance microchips, they're all booked for months to years, and as a buyer you are competing with every tech megacorp in existenceCapitalism works for bakeries and carpenters. In a field with startup costs in the billions to trillions, where all the production methods are cloaked in secrecy and patents, and the qualified workers are relentlessly poached, it's winner takes all
>>741764042because that would require capital investment and work and not sitting back and taking 30% of everyone else's work
>>741764094are you only pretending to be retarded, anon?
>just start your own DRAM manufacturing semiconductor corporation
>>741764101Feel free to start doing it today. But you won't. Because we both know You. Won't. Do. Shit.
>>741764319No, seriously. Valve should just invest their money properely instead of wasting it on stupid shit.How come a millionaire with a monopoly on pc gaming can't manufacture ram? It's stupid!The only acceptable reason is >>741764187 in that cartels would shank him for moving in on their turf.But then again, just buy an army. He can. He's White, White countries need military help anyway. Gabe is just a fat lazy retard who like any typical boomer got lucky and wasted every opportunity he had at making the world a better place for the following generations.
>>741764442>wasted every opportunity he had at making the world a better place for the following generationsNot his job, get fucked.
>>741764535>Not his jobIt is. Like it or not, it's his inherit responsibility towards his own blood.He failed.
Timmy is rich and he's the good guy saving forests while Gaben is evil for buying boats, right? Why isn't Timmy making RAM factories to produce affordable RAM for us?
>>741764276>they're all booked for months to years,Reminder that OpenAI gobbled up 40% of the world's RAM orders, with money OpenAI doesn't even have, no money exchanged hands, and that still massively drove up the global price of RAM. Why aren't purchasers required to pay a portion of the RAM price up front when they order to stop something like his from happening?
>>741764635Because the foundries know that if OAI (or anyone else) pulls back the slots will be refilled within a matter of hours. There is no risk to them
>>741764635Wouldn't make for a very funny inevitable global economic crash if people took precautions, you dummy.
why does valve always focus on hardware?make games you fucks
>>741764739They're making Deadlock and HLX
>>741764098if you stick to games it can actually run at a respectable framerate you can get 100-250 installed in 500gb. playing "modern" games on it would be miserable.
>>741764807Playing modern games is miserable no matter the system, Anon.
>>741763978but how will they turn profitable by 2030 without their data centers?
>>741763886corpo speak translation: valve didn't want to commit to a long term strategy
>>741764896maybe if you're a tendie
>>741764739Valve owns the biggest PC game store, I'm guessing the idea is to get consoleturds to switch to PC so they can sell more games to more people
>>741763886funny thing about ram is that is not complicated or costly to make compared to Cpu's or Gpu's. They could make more if they wanted but they choose not to because they saw people were willing to pay ridiculous prices. It's all a scam.
>>741763886Aww so cute the company that pushes gambling on kids is the heccing victims
>>741763978>>741764172>>741764953Better kill Gaben first guys.
>>741763886>making memory might be most profitable endeavor right now>not a single new competitor or someone saying we will enter the marketThis make zero sense.
>>741763973What the hell is jestermaxxing?
>>741764342>an then realize that AI companies pay way, way more and you can buy a whole 'nother fleet of yachts for the money you get.
>>741765078>>741764276Also there is a new competitor, China. Because they don't care about patents and can't be used for reverse engineering western chips
>>741765076>trusting a video game journalist hitpieceRothschild funded smear campaign
>micron stopped selling to regular joe shmo customers in favor of airam companies can tell anyone to fuck off and dont care about prices because they make so much fucking money
>>741765078You do realize the chips are made by like 3 companies right? they need multiple 500 milion dolar machines to keep up demand, even if you could aford it it would take you decades just for the factory to fire up
>>741765078makes perfect sensebarrier to entry is incredibly high and costly, just look at chinas gpus that are about 10-15 years behind current products in performance and they have the entirety of the ccp funding them and their developmentbefore crypto/nft/ai the market for high end gpus was not that great and it didnt make sense to compete since there was no shortage
Reminder that the memory manufacturers have been caught price fixing before and they're doing it again now. They really dont like RAM being so cheap.
>>741763886The Rothschilds bow to the RAM merchants
>>741763978It's cool, anon. It's just a bubble that will eventually implode once people realize that it's nothing but bloat and that standard intelligence is a myth perpetuated by the people pushing it to over hype the entire industry and make themselves rich. But don't worry, they'll be fine once the multi-trillion dollar industry collapses under its own weight(almost none of the big tech giants using AI see a return on profits) because like always, the tax payers will bail them out through emergency bills fed by Congress so they can walk away in a leisurely manner while we foot the bill and they suffer zero repercussions for designing what is essentially the biggest case of vaporware known to the history of mankind.But hey, at least ram will be somewhat cheap again so I can go back to shitposting on 4chan with my 32gigs of ddr5.This post was made by AI.
>Submit game to steam>Rejected because some bitch saw a 30-year-old woman, decided she looked too much like a high school girl, and this was too much of a problem for her to handle>Can never submit game ever againOh, so NOW you think this kind of business behavior is bad.
>>741765297Doesn't Korea have pretty strong penalties for corruption? Like literally execution?
>>741763886Sounds like the same courtesy Valve game approvers extend to game developers.
>>741765412https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing_scandalThey were fined in EU and America, dont know about korea.
>there's a RAM shortage! Aaaah!>I can go to Newegg right now and load up a cart full of fucking RAM it just costs $400 a stick nowIf there was a real shortage they'd limit it to like 1 per customer or something.You'd see scalpers offering RAM sticks on eBay.They just jacked up the price because of the potential demand from AI (which is still a worthless investment, no one's seen a penny from AI).They will refuse to lower the price for a long time too, because what are customers going to do? Go to Walmart and get cheap RAM? Until they have warehouses sitting at capacity wasting space, RAM will be $400+ for a while.
>>741765412South Korea is a corrupt, dystopian, corpocratic, feminist shithole where the genital mutilation of children is rampant.
You're all unemployed losers that don't even know what you're talking about.
>>741765526Hey! I'm an employed loser that has no clue what I'm talking about.
>>741763886Welcome to the big leagues
>>741765148Hey, dumb ass, you've been saying this for literally two years now.
>>741765296It sure is, but funnily enough china already manufactures ram that is competitive and the companies that do it were just silently banned from having their shit imported into the US.So every 3rd world country already doesn't have to pay the extreme prices we do for anything.
>>741763978I want to kill people like you instead.
>>741763886Call Valve and ask for a discount. See if they call back.
>>741763978You won't do shit
>>741765606Maybe Altman or Musk or Huang will throw a fraction of their wealth your way for defending them online
>>741765569(I) haven't, but what of it? If a company funded by the CCP and with the headstart of IP theft still can't compete after 2 years, what hope does anyone else have?Things are only going to get wose, humanity's collective demand for high performance chips is constantly growing
>>741763973Can't wait for people like you to get the dau of the ropeBut let's be honest you are so fat, it would probably break under you whale weight
>>741765572What the fuck are you talking about you dumb retard? This is 2x 16GB sticks. That's $610.
Why can't i buy a 32gb kit of Amazon Basics DDR5 DRAM for like 75 bucks? C'mon Bezos.
>>741765679Presumably the cognitive dissonance of shilling for China while they are doing the AI thing as well isn't lost on communists like you?
>>741764172Don't worry, we will hit the shooters on the road Those people have families, must go home after work, etc If you kill all the mercenaries defending the data centre there will be no shooting on sight anymoreIn modded Minecraft ofc
I know its hard for losers to hear but get a job instead of begging mommy for more of her hard earned money. That way you can play with your toys as much as you want.
>buy AI stocks>hold one month>can buy 10 sticks of 16GB RAMThat's how winners navigate and adapt to the world. Losers just whine and pray.
>>741765035Then Valve should’ve subsidized the Steam Machine from its free money machine named Steam. Consolefags are not jumping ship to a $1k Linux PC that’s weaker than a PS5.
>>741763978AI data centers are the future and if it means a bunch of incels have to pay a bit more for their shitty no-games-station, I'm fine with it
>>741765078Machines that make chips are ordered years in advance.
>>741765725>what hope does anyone else have?People smarter than you will end up fixing it.
>>741765941Yeah that's true, if they really wanted to bet on it attracting console gamers they should have sold at a loss. I'm guessing they don't have enough faith in it to sell at a loss, so they're selling at cost. I really doubt they're making a profit off these though
>>741765679He's invested in stock, he already transformed himself into a corporate slave.
>>741763886I'm honestly surprised they haven't tried to kill him for doing that yet. You're simply not allowed to win a legal battle against a Rothschild.
gamers need to learn to get into their cuckchair as they watch corpos slurp up all their resources instead of selling it to them like they used to.
>>741764953So what happens when AI subsidies dry up, it still isn't profitable, tokens actually represent the material cost of AI, and every company bigger than a brick-and-mortar local chain is sitting with their dicks in their hands having reconfigured their entire business strategy and workforce around a technology they can't afford to use?The answer is more subsidies, just bail out the AI companies
>>741766104>literally free money>uhh I'm going to keep chugging HRT insteadSucks to suck.
>>741765832>communistsHow ironic. Tech megacorps bribing politicians, paying for a president's vanity project ballroom, getting tax breaks and government subsidies for data centres is the pinnacle of the free market, right? Also, last I checked AI capex isn't inflating China's gdp figures and keeping it out of a recession, the same isn't true for America.
>>741766174You need to update your talking points. It's outdated now. The American economy is heating up again.
>>741764187competition is a threat to our democracy
Isn't that how the free market works?
>>741766051It's so fucking expensive it would struggle even if they lost more than the entire cost of a switch 2 on every sale. At some point you just give up and say this is a product for morons, we'll try again another time.
>>741766050>using Google AI search summaryGreat, RAM prices just went up another $15 you lazy jeet thanks a lot
>>741766272If it's anything like the deck then it doesn't matter. They'll sell a few thousand units then go out of stock forever. Valve loses some R&D money because the product is essentially a failure, but at least recoups the cost of the hardware and tries this again in a decade or so if the global hardware market stops being fucked
>>741765819Because he literally wants you to lease your processing power from one of his data centers for a monthly subscription.
Prices are literally already falling as demand cools up the supply chain. The reason Valve is selling the Steam Cube at cost is because they know prices are coming down.
>>741766172I'm invested but I'm not such a poor annoying bitch that I take every opportunity to shill my stock on a videogame forum. My opinions and actions are completely independent of a wiggly line but you're a self made slave who wastes all his free time shilling
>>741766265There is no free market when it comes to technology hardware.
>>741766356Yeah, you totally don't use AI search tools to do basic searches at all. Why even lie?
>>741766440How did Huawei build a smartphone empire out of nothing?
>>741766167AI will be crazy expensive if it starts to reflect the actual cost of the datacenters and the electricity needed.Even more if the insane amount of capital that's been invested is factored in.We're talking like $5 per picture, but then again we kind of forgot the early versions of Photoshop before it went to a subscription model were like $700-$800. Maybe things are just going back to normal.
>>741766519Ban imports, enforce use of party-approved phones to connect to the party-approved Chinese web that is highly censored.
>>741766476You can’t stop Google from generating that slop vomit but no, I don’t read it.
>>741763973You ARE a moid tho
>>741766652The iPhone is still the most popular smartphone in China. Can you stop being wrong?
>>741766519>Huawei received approximately "$46 billion in loans and other support, coupled with $25 billion in tax cuts" since the Chinese government had a vested interest in fostering a company to compete against Apple and SamsungThey were correct to do so of course, but there is still nothing remotely free market about this.
>>741766404I checked the same stick of ram I've been following since last year and it just dropped to the cheapest point it's been at since 2025. This coincides with the tech stock market dumping and AI sentiment being low, whenever AI sentiment is high the price goes back up, feels like naked price gouging
>>741766167It won’t matter by then, the IPOs will have happened, the tech kikes will have made their escape with the trillions in profit from your 401k, they’ll just let it burn at that point. The media hype machine will already be aggressively shilling whatever their next retarded grift is as your sure-fire way to get your money back
>>741765725>(I)uoh....
>>741763886Why don't Valve just start making their own RAM
>>741766739So it's not free market because industry players are too successful and the barrier to entry is too high? What, you want a chocolate gold medal in the form of government policy to hamstring your own successful businesses?
>>741766117It wasn't one of THE Rothschilds; just someone with the same last name. If it was, then yeah, Gabe probably would be dead.
>>741766853Because it's self-correcting you retard.
>>741766872>$80bn in government handouts>WHAT U MEAN DAT NOT FREE MARKETjesus christ
>>741766050Fix it? They're making more money than ever. Why on earth would they stop?
>>741766937Answer the question. How do you propose to make this market free, lolbert?
>>741766764Space X shitting itself has already preemptively killed the openAI IPO
>>741766960Can you promise me to kill yourself when memory prices drop? Just do that when it happens, okay? Call it reparations for having to deal with your annoying stupidity for years at this point.
>>741766969Don’t give the company $80bn in government handouts? Seems simple to me
>>741766969>>741766872You can't really make it a free market as things stand. Maybe once we get space mining going.
>>741767019Why is the market not free?
>>741766970Nah OpenAI died because it was too small to get fast tracked to the index funds under the new rules, so they couldn’t force people to buy it. That happened even before the SpaceX IPO happened. But the SpaceX IPO is exactly what they want: they hit the market, price climbs for a few days as the early investors and initial owners dump their shares on a market that is compelled to gobble them up, then the prices crater but it already doesn’t matter because they’re already over the next hill with their shekels
>>741767101The $80bn from the government (among rather a lot else, but that alone makes it not).
>>741765123what's with rich people and yachts? you only need one to go to international waters
>>741766970>>741767126Did you also make confident doomer statements when Tesla were at these points?
>>741767126You have to trick someone into holding your bags, once they see one group of marks get dumped on it becomes harder to pull off your own scam.
>>741767203Tesla wasn't an IPO scam you retard, it was an actual company with a product people paid money for. It became a meme stock and space X is the meme getting stale.
>>741767165No, that's just Huawei not competing fairly, in your view. You said>There is no free market when it comes to technology hardware.Why? If you're going to keep repeating the $80 billion line, don't bother replying.
>>741766580The AI companies are trapped by the huge mountains of money they're burning to run their models, they need enormous numbers of users paying them for their services but at the same time most people only use AI because it's cheap and in most use cases it's not capable enough to justify paying an expensive subscription for it. They need it to be some earth-shatteringly revolutionary technology used by the whole world to justify current expenditure and that's simply not going to happen.
>>741767203Tesla had issues but they make a product people want and don’t burn $20bn a year doing it. I guess you could argue that the same is true of SpaceX because Starlink, the issue is XAI is burning 10x the money Starlink can make in a year.
>>741763978>Banned for anti-semitism
>>741767246Tesla became a meme stock? It's near its all-time highs. How did it stop being a meme stock?
>>741767271>How did Huawei build a smartphone empire out of nothing?You are the one who brought them up in response to that statement. Do you have the memory of a goldfish?
>>741763998>why not invest $10 billions for a fab to end in the same situation with another componentEven Apple isn't doing anything and for them it would be pocket change to get a fab.
>>741767301Had issues? Are those issues fixed? Aren't Tesla sales down?
>>741767246It never made a profit and it's a bubble going to crash same with Space X.When it does you'll hold the bags
>>741767271$80bnDo you really not understand? None of these manufacturers are competing in a space even remotely free of massive government interference. The Huawei example proves that point nicely because they were financed by enormous government subsidy, but the same is true of most large tech companies. Infrastructure, patent laws, major government investments. None of this is free competition it’s all kike puppet corps in bed with state actors on one side or the other. Lemonade stand models don’t work in this environment, this is not anything close to a free market and it never CAN be unless the entire economic system changes.
>>741767349Tesla sales are in the fucking toilet, its so bad he's probably going to merge it with space X because both companies need to hide behind meme shit like data centers in spaaaace and hypothetical robots.
>>741767418Seems like it crashed 3 times now. Recovered every time. Strange.
>>741763978Jail time in Worst Korea?Not worth it.
>>741767418Learn to read you esl retard, I dont hold either stock.
>>741767423How should the economic system change?
>>741767390Their gross profit is still a positive number though. They are still making money. Tesla has generated more money than it has lost over the course of its existence, as far as I can tell. That is not true of SpaceX (because of XAI)
>>741763886Was steamcube in development for half a year or what? The ai bullshit started around october i think? Why didnt they secure an agreement with samsung or someone before then?
>>741767491How come this guy says it never made a profit? >>741767418Which retard should I listen to? Everyone is so damn confident in what they're saying.
>>741767487That’s a long conversation and to the side. You’d need to abolish the state and dismantle modern capitalism to achieve what’s required.Suffice it to say, ain’t no free markets here, boss. Tell the government to stop pumping money into these companies
>>741766215How much are they going to edit that number after the fact, too?
>>741763978>destroy the ram supply>destroy the lootables tooanon are you trying to get ram or stop everyone from having ityou're supposed to luigi all the altmans and amodeis
>>741767491>gross profitIrrelevant. Let's hear the figure for net.
>>741766215>The American economy is heating up again.>Three companies passing billions of dollars back and forth>SpaceX rugpull>OMG THE ECONOMY IS DOING GREAT GUYS TRUMP DID ITKill yourself
>>741765863>we will......do absolutely nothing.Just like you been doing for ages, that's how you got to this point.
>>741767556>commie nonsenseAmazon started out of a garage btw.
>>741767534I don’t think that guy is right? I mean you can google Tesla’s P&L statements, they’re now a matter of public recordhttps://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/TSLA/financials/annual/income-statement$4.8bn EBIT in 2025. They’re making more than they’re spending. Sales are down, margins are down, it’s not going TO DA MOOOON or whatever the stonkniggers on /biz/ say but it’s a profitable enterprise.
>>741763886It's called a free market.Make your own memory production plants, instead of buying from the same 3 and let them hold all the leverage.Oh but you just NOW decided to wake up and notice that making chips was actually pretty crucial in the modern world, uh?
>>741763978No, just the AI data centers. And we technically don't have to burn 'em down, just develop some form of malicious program that targets their datasets, renders them useless, poisons any backups, and gives their computer brains the digital equivalent to early-onset Alzheimer's.
>>741767632That's employment data. Maybe reading is hard for you. The people continuing to use /v/ aren't particularly bright.
>>741767717I will parachute a very big magnet
>>741767598Why are you asking me that? Shouldn't you be keeping yourself informed of this stuff? Surely anons in this shithole aren't just saying things without actually knowing anything.
>>741767659What's stopping you from creating the next amazon then retard-kun?
>>741767663>it’s not going TO DA MOOOONTrue in more ways than one
>>741767623Net is just shy of $3.8bn. Earnings per share is like 1.08. Again, is it a money printer? No. Has that EPS number been fucking cratering yoy consistently? Sure. It still makes more money than it earns though. It’s important to point out the enormous gulf between a business that isn’t beating the market average or a business that has a rough couple years of negative growth with a business that has literally never made money and in fact loses it to the tune of tens of billions every single year that it has existed.
>>741763886>Rotschilds???
It's absolutely retarded the US relies entirely on China for all computer components.
>>741767423>None of these manufacturers are competing in a space even remotely free of massive government interference.Maybe the US should've invested in microchip factories decades ago, instead of funneling all its cash in pointless missile systems that got mogged by rag heads with 10k$ drones, and waste billions fighting arabs and persians for half a century.Somehow you thought that having a tiny Island off the coast of China be the complete bottleneck of all tech production, was a fine scenario.and I say the US and not Europe, because they're not even worth considering at this point...
>>741767848*TaiwanAnd Intelaviv + TSMC are building fabs in the US after all the tarriffs fuckery early this year
>>741767804I'm content with my life. Also I'm nowhere near as brilliant as Jeff Bezos.
>>741763886>its da ram>its da nvmeNigga, then why the fuck do you charge an extra $300 for 2tb???Why couldn't you get a good bulk factory deal for the cheap ass mobile cpu, the ram or every other component on the cube?
>>741767908Good goy.
>>741767349Tesla is a meme stock because it can't back its valuation with actual profitability. Realistically, I don't think Tesla will actually grow at a pace warranted by the current valuation, specially now that outside of USA they have competition from chink EVs which are much higher quality. Also, Teslas are very poorly made, so even if you're gonna come swinging with "lmao chinese quality", it doesn't take much to be higher quality than Tesla. It really doesn't.
>>741767871>Maybe the US should'veAlso not free market, then. I agree that reliance on hostile foreign powers for crucial components is a really dumb strategy from a national security standpoint but we were arguing about how the tech space is not a free market and probably never will be. You don’t resolve that by your government using billions in taxpayer dollars to select a handful of golden jews to receive free RAM fabs.
>>741767871>Maybe the US should've invested in microchip factories decades agoCan you please just shut the fuck up?
>>741767796>Why are you asking me that?To illustrate to you that data is unreliable, because they quietly edit it back down every time after it falls out of the headlines.>Shouldn't you be keeping yourself informed of this stuff? Yes. That effort is generally made easier, for the record, without people like you deliberately misinforming people with numbers you know will be corrected into the negatives in a few weeks
>>741767717Isn't the RAM that they use there completely useless to consumers?
>>741765464>fined in EU and AmericaOh, no, 0.00000000000000000000001% of their money went into paying fines. Won't someone please think of the shareholders?
>>741767984>To illustrate to you that data is unreliable, because they quietly edit it back down every time after it falls out of the headlines.And can you point me to the revisions? I know for a fact there aren't major revisions. You're just assuming there are.>Yes. That effort is generally made easier, for the record, without people like you deliberately misinforming people with numbers you know will be corrected into the negatives in a few weeksWhy don't you find out?
>>741765035>I'm guessing the idea is to get consoleturds to switch to PC>Be a console player since forever>I don't think the gabecube is that bad or expensive for me>Well let's go to Steam and buy it>To be elegible to buy the steam machine, make a purchase before April 27th of this yearwhat
Daily reminder that E = mc2 + AI
>>741765478>corrupt, dystopian, corpocratic, feminist shithole where the genital mutilation of children is rampant.but enough about the US and Israel
>>741763886Then just don't reply?Easy. I am a master of business, and social media manipulaiton.
>>741767871Please please shut the fuck up. Just shut the hell up. You don't know anything. You purport to care about these things but you somehow aren't even informed about the most monumental developments in the space. Shut the fuck up.
>>741765078The process to make the RAM that people actually use are trade secrets. Same reason why no one's trying to make new Video Cards.
>>741767980>2025Do you know what a decade is?>>741767971There's no such thing as a completely free market, outside of the fantasies of Libertarian retards.You have regulations, anti trust laws, anti corruption laws, Tax laws, etc.You're free within a legal framework, which is what people mean, when they use (colloquially) the phrase "free market" or "capitalism".
>>741764021Yes, obviously they should have realized this was a dumb idea and just not done it. They're not a hardware manufacturer, the Steam Machine is just a PC, there was no reason for them to make a mini PC. People that want a PC will buy a PC, people that want a console will buy a console. The idea that there's this entire market of people who want PC games in a console format is just dumb. It was dumb in 2015 when they tried this the first time and it completely failed, it's still dumb now. The Steam Deck was different, no one was making handheld PCs in a Switch formfactor until the Steam Deck proved it could be done. They should have stopped there. They make their money selling games on Steam, not by selling hardware.
>>741767904The fabs were in the works before the tariffs. Don't act as if Orange Man did anything, retard.
>>741768186maxcope
>>741768186You are a retard with 0 reading comprehension, my friend.Shut the fuck up yourself.
>>741765078Well, if you want to make RAM you have to be in China. Secondly, even if you're in China you can still get banned from exporting outside of China and Russia.That's not even taking into account how expensive the initial setup is.
>>741763886>after they won against the Rotschilds.Wrong Rotshchild dipshit.
>>741768225The hardware was supposed to attract iPad kiddies and consolefags to steam so that they can sell more games
>>741768220>Do you know what a decade is?The American tech industry was busy dominating the services space that the entire world relies on. Want to guess what operating system the Chinese use?
>>741768320Yes but that market doesn't exist. This was proven a decade ago when they tried this the first time and no one bought them. Why would it be any different now? Sure SteamOS is better than what they had then but it's still not a console experience.
>>741768225It's not dumb, a small PC that you connect to a TV to play PC video games already exist, it's called a PS5. And it's extremely popular.But yeah, steam fucked up the implem here.
>>741768414Idk man, because they have enough money to waste on chasing that market and surely this time it will workI'm just guessing based on available information, I'm not present in valve meetings. They sure as hell aren't making money selling hardware
>>741767871The funny thing, is our missile systems and military development laid the basis for all modern processors.We had the funding and know how to engineer the precise controls and environments. We had the industries, and trade-secret plastics and processes make highly specialized parts. Which we would then still ship overseas, so our outsourcing could produce reliable batches.We had all that. We still have the trade secrets/products that get delivered in person over there, if foreign companies have a fuck up with supply line.But certain individuals and traitors in our government, Pentagon, etc. sold the bulk of it off. All for a few dollars more. All so business owners here didn't have to pay a fellow citizen, their employee a fair wage for making things could shape the world, and destroy it tenfold.We really don't hate them enough.
You're all fucking losers. Pointless shit thread that everyone comes out dumber for reading through. You're all poor and dumb. Also all jannies should be killed. Great video game thread, trannies.
>>741764098>press uninstall>press installWow!
>>741764098The 2 TB version exists purely for Amerifats.>Supersize for just 15 cents more than a large? Sounds like a deal!The margins on the 2TB are likely better and it's probably also more expensive than if you just bought the 500 GB and swapped in more storage.
>why is /v/ dyingThis thread.
>>741765078Well Elon Musk is doing it with Terrafab initiative. Others are cucks.
>>741763886South Korea is getting uppity.
>>741763973clanbattle starts soon, little kotget ready
>>741765115Acting the clown unc.
>>741765078it's called the RAM cartel for a reason
>>741768220> There's no such thing as a completely free market, outside of the fantasies of Libertarian retards.Yeah that’s basically true. However there are degrees of closeness to that idea, and it’s important to recognize how state interference affects the market one way or the other>You have regulations, anti trust laws, anti corruption laws, Tax laws, etc.None of those are “here’s $80bn for free” though. That’s the point. You’re playing on a continuum fallacy here, suggesting that because nobody escapes payroll taxes, that means having your entire business deficit financed by government subsidy is basically the same thing>You're free within a legal framework, which is what people mean, when they use (colloquially) the phrase "free market" or "capitalism".No, the opposite is true. When people use the phrase “free market” they typically are referring to some platonic ideal of open exchange that ISN’T governed by a framework that shapes supply and demand to suit political interests. Also “capitalism” is just a term for a socioeconomic system where the means of production are controlled by an idle rentier class, it doesn’t really have shit to do with free markets. You could have a free market of worker-owned cooperatives and that would be socialism but it’d still be a free market (again, hypothetically)
>>741763983Yeah 512 gb is enough if most of your games are physical....Hahaha steamies really are the dumbest fags
>>741769613>Enough storage space to have 1 poorly optimized AAA gameHell even if we're talking 50 GB games it's not very much. Guess you could have endless indie games but even those can get a few gigabytes. But honestly at that point do you need a $1,000 shitbox to play them when you could play them on a literal potato?
>>741768338And that impeded investing in chip fabs... because?
>>741768186>2026 is decades ago
>>741769863Literal potatoes cost 1000 bucks these days... I have 11% of my 2TB drive used and I have OS installed on it as well as 13 games on Steam, 2 games on GoG and I think 3 games from random sources. 2 of those games I know to be over 30GB and many are over 10GB. I think this disk space fear is a bit overblown.
>>741769160I wasn't the anon you originally answered to, but I think it's fair to say that "free marker" has always been a term understood to mean free under certain conditions.In terms of geopolitics you can simply extent the leverage concept of a (commonly understood concept of) free market (as in fair competition within a market) and apply State actors to it, as if they were competing companies.China dumping money into chip manufacturing is a strategic decision like deciding to fund more healthcare or IT education.The US is free to do the same, or continue to suck Israel's cock and spend another trillion to bomb the desert.Point is, when you come hat-in-hand begging for more chips, what leverage (regardless if you're a company or a State) do you bring to the table? The idea of companies acting freely in a boundless global market is just a fantasy, but the concept of investment, competition and leverage apply just as well, just on a larger scale involving governments.
>>741763973what would be the ram equivalent of rape, you can always rape a local roastie
>>741771287Stealing a RAM shipment meant for someone else using a squad of armed bandits.
>>741765115It's how retards say "making jokes".
>>741763886so basically if your cartel is caught and punished, you just wait about 20 years to do it again?writing this down
>>741763973who gives a shit if they "get to set the price", it's not like ai sloppa has shortage or value>things could be better>well duhhh uh *picks nose* things can be as they are
>>741771771There is no "just wait" part. They don't have to wait, they just have to pay the fine. It's basically just a one time tax. Although you can be required to pay the tax more than once if the government wants you to.
>>741763886Gamers need VALVE RAM
>>741763886>make widgets>have more orders than you can supply>some dude comes to you and asks for .001% of your production>give him the price>he says no and tries to haggle>you move on and produce widgets for the customers who have already ordered it
>>741770459Yes but the reason it matters is that a “truly” private enterprise is, ostensibly, just trying to make money, whereas a government is not broadly motivated just by profit. When talking about investments into stuff like this, it’s important to consider that if, for example, the chinese government is dumping billions into local manufacture, their main motive for doing so is not primarily “this will be a profitable venture” but some other form of geopolitical leverage. When we talk about the money these tech companies are making, therefore, it’s disingenuous to point to that money and pretend it makes some statement about demand or supply or other market forces; it doesn’t. It’s a political maneuver. Like you wouldn’t point and Lockheed Martin and go>jeez, people must really love F18 fighter jets, these guys are making money hand over fist!Their profitability comes from their ability to serve a political demand that is entirely divorced from ordinary consumer sentiment. The same is true of companies like Huawei, which exist inside a similar complex. They are functionally state actors and serving political purpose, the quality of their products or ostensible consumer demand for them has jack shit to do with their success “on the market” because they aren’t ON the market, not really, they’re tied by a money umbilicus to a government that is propping up their success for political reasons
>>741767992All of the hardware they use are useless to regular consumers.I guess some anons can make use of a couple jet turbine power generators
>>741763886let's shame ram companies until they give in
>>741765078China is doing that, and i hope they break the kneecaps of the current cartel.
>>741765078It makes sense because the memory manufacturers know that AI datacenters are a fad so they will not make an investment. It would be a crazy risk.
>>741773554This is what makes the most sense, it's also why Samsung agreed on that insane bonus but added >only if the trend stay the same or no bonus anymore
>>741764342You'll never get the license to do so nor is it financially plausible. There's a reason chip manufacturers cut back during covid.
>>741768186>back to taiwan for packagingThat seems like a waste, why?
>>741766167Too big to bail, my fishy friend.
>>741766580>electricityStopping you right here. Already not affordable
>>741766764Yup. The pension funds will be empty and they won't get a bail. That's the plan since the 90s, really. When government is broken, the big sellout will begin. Kikes will buy everything and enslave everyone via privatization.
>>741767418Tesla basically executed european car manufacturers single handedly
>>741763886Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft will never have this issue btw, they will face higher prices sure but not as high as Valve'sValve can't secure RAM the way the big three does because they have no fucking idea whether the steam box is gonna be a hit or a complete flopThe big three sign massive contracts because they know they will hit at least 30 millionSo like any business that sells in bulk, the more you buy the less it costs per unitValve with their mediocre steam deck numbers (which hover around the 4-5 million mark) simply don't have the leverage needed to negotiateThe result is they end up getting treated like a second class citizen
>>741763978No because I'm not a tranny
>>741765078There's one dutch company in the world that makes the necessary machine and they're prohibitively expensive.The only viable path is to invent something that completely sidesteps them. Like natural computing or something along those lines.
>>741768157Apparently. @Valve, you know what to do.
>>741763983Enough room for GTA 6 and.... Oh
>>741774407don't be dutchphobic..
>>741764227Basically, the ability to make these things is safeguarded and locked away as a form of leverage
>>741765770Notice how you didn't call him wrong? Because you know he's right.
>>741763978>"kill all RAM producers"great, even less RAM to go around
>>741764953xAI is renting one of their data centers to Google for $1b per month. The fuck is your made up graph?
>>741766167They aren't planning on being profitable any time soon, because they aren't short-sighted idiots. They are building infrastructure and developing technology right now. When tokens become too expensive it will put pressure on them coming up with more efficient processes. You have to make something run before you can optimize it. Look at the first car or the first computers.
>>741775515Renting hardware isn't revenue from AI. It's the exact opposite of revenue from AI, since you can't run your AI on the datacenter that's rented to someone else who is running their AI on it.
>>741764187What if reality exists and there is currently a massive spike in demand instead? >destroy any attempts at competition starting upNew factories are being built all over the place.>>741764227What is the alternative to increasing prices and making sure the people who get the most value out of them are the ones who receive it?Dumb faggots throughout history have tried to impose price controls, and it just makes things worse. The
>>741764276>Capitalism works for bakeries and carpenters. In a field with startup costs in the billions to trillionsIn another system you wouldn't have that issue because you could never gather the resources to start something like this to begin with.
>>741764635>no money exchanged handsWhat does that change? You think they aren't going to buy it? You think those companies just reserved all that stuff with no guarantee whatsoever?
>>741765035I think the main idea is building up Linux as an alternative to Windows because Gaben got spooked when Microsoft was flirting with the idea of making Windows 8 a bit more walled garden like back when that came out.
>>741763886You think this is bad?This is merely the foreshadowing. Unless someone big, like government-level, steps in - we will see a huge tech crisis in the next 2-5 years once AI takes so much of RAM stock that there wont be any left for medical equpment, CNC machines and millitary tech, amongst everything else. Worldwide. PC building will be the least of our concerns.We are so fucked i just cant wait to see it.
>>741765078>not a single new competitor or someone saying we will enter the marketA bunch of Chinese companies are trying pretty hard and the existing companies are building new fabs like crazy.
>>741764021NoBy the time the RAM and storage shortage hit it was already too late to cancel it since they had already ordered other components/manufacturing, and delaying it just means sitting on a bunch of other components for a long time
>>741765409>Can never submit game ever againWho's stopping you, you dork?
>>741776074two weeks
>>741775824>Dumb faggots throughout history have tried to impose price controls, and it just makes things worse. Theoh fuck, the commies got him before he could finish his post
>>741768195>The process to make the RAM that people actually use are trade secrets. sounds like a job for extraordinary rendition and/or waterboarding to me
>>741765474You're stupid. You prevent a complete shortage by increasing the price, because that way only people who really want or need it are going to buy it. If RAM would cost as much as it did 5 years ago you would not be able to buy any and would be completely fucked if you actually needed one. That's why price increases like that are good thing, but you need a very big brain to understand that.
>>741771287It would be bu-Wait a sec, if I tell you, the prices will skyrocket.
>>741775098Easily solver by being born White.
>>741764683oh lord how wrong you areit might be filled but that increase in price openAI caused remains artificial
>>741775625>They aren't planning on being profitable any time soon, because they aren't short-sighted idiots. They are building infrastructure and developing technology right now.You can only hide behind bullshit like "we are in the buildout phase" for so long, nigga. Especially considering that their promise to investors is to literally, unironically build a machine god that will solve all the world's problems.
>>741776453>their promise is to build a machine god that will solve all the world's problemsbuddy, these investors have already accepted the world is fucked and their best friends, back when they had them, committed sewer slide. They don't care and just want to see line go up.
>>741763978>Burn down data centre>They need to buy a shit load more RAM to build a new one>Demand increased further>Prices increase furtherGenius
>>741776313Uhh yes I'll simply fill my steamcube with japslop instead like every self respecting shitskin on this board
>Heavily invest into a new miracle product to the point you start jerking off to it on government level>This miracle product was never that necessary, but is kept being pushed more and more, basically becoming a government focus.>Suddenly the entire industry gets fucked over because the new "Miracle" product eats all the nutrients in the soil (RAM), but the agenda is still going.>Everyone gets raped in the end, from the government to the common manThis is literally Khruschev corn all over again for fucks sake. You'd think that burgers with their hateboner for commies would at least research about one of their biggest mistakes, but i guess that would implant them with commie thoughts or something.
>>741763886>valve announces the steambox>anyone with a brain says that it'll be minimum $1000, due to cost of parts>steamies fuck up every thread saying "valve will find a way" "it'll only be $600 max!">valve now has to backpedal against retarded expectation set by their own drones.
>>741776589you can say suicide nigger
>>741763886>RotschildsAs an Israeli Jew, I'm proud of the Rothschilds.
>>741776948Nobody with a brain would have said "1000 USD minimum" when it was announced unless they were an openAI insider and knew about the price shock they were about to unleash with their (non binding btw) MOU.
Nobody wants to tell you this but the "industry" fucking hates working with Valve, so this isnt surprising at allThey are a bunch of pretentious assholes who think they're above everyone else after all, so suppliers just cuck them to bring them back to reality
>don't even work in tech>company is obsessed with AI integration>it keeps failing because the tech isn't there yet>constant square peg round hole bullshit that annoys the workers mandated to use it>have a VP of AI integration + 3 other "AI engineers" that have been trying to get the tech to work with our company for over a year now>this is on top of upper management crying about hemorrhaging money from not fixing the actual problems The company is UK based so all of upper management is indians which probably explains it lmao
>>741777068>he didn't knowOhnonononono
>>741777174You didn't either.
>>741776935Investors are all about forgetting history and be surprised when it repeats itself, unfortunately they usually have enough capital and/or influence to bounce back and repeat the cycle until failure
>>741777115I mean, from what I've seen the PC Games Industry tolerates working with Epic Games, Ubisoft, and Blizzard, (granted they are part of Microsoft now) and they seem 1000x worse than Valve is. This post reads like fanfiction.
>>741776948>>anyone with a brain says that it'll be minimum $1000, due to cost of partsno? prices then pointed at 800 bucks for the 2TB version
Just a reminder that EU was responsible for this first because ASML wanted to expand their tech outside of niggerlands but were paid a 2.5 billion bribe by the government to not do it so that the dutch would stay relevant.
>>741763886Damn, is this real??
>>741776453>Yet another anon who doesnt know shit being very confident with his opinionsDo you even know why AI tokens cost so much? Thats because the LLM has to iterate through entire dataset, even if 99,99% of it is useless garbage (just so people "can ask it anything"). Simply by building customized datasets the running costs go down massively. A medical company that tries to use AI to research/vibe new medicine or get a diagnosis from X-ray simply doesnt need roman history, US presidential achievements or knowledge about Mesopotamian wars in its dataset. AI companies are doing exactly what venture capital has always done: go big with unsustainable model to become major player in the market, then start turning it into cash cow. In just a couple of years expensive generalist AI wormed its way into pretty much every facet of working. The moment they pivot to offering customized training sets they'll be making ACTUAL profit hand over fist, but that wont happen until there's only couple major players left who've bought out the competition to maximize their market share and thus profits. Classic capitalism playbook from like 50 years ago you uneducated nigga.
>>741777256He's probably right, Valve does a lot of shit that is bad for the games industry. For instance they don't allow crypto games (you have to disable crypto), they require you to disclose AI usage and they also don't allow putting actual ads ingame.
>>741776935We're already cornbrained and sibsidize the shit out of corn. We replaced sugar with corn and they keep trying to make corn into fuel.
>>741777562>he's (you) probably right>not allowed crypto games, required AI disclosure, and no ads in-game are bad for the games industryAre you getting paid for (You)'s or something? How are you this much of a contrarian?
>>741777493And for the record I'm not saying AI is good. It mostly isnt, but it LOOKS competent to those higher up who make the decisions and dont have to clean up the mess. It'll worm its way into nearly every job because the promise of automating away 100k/year meatbags who work measly 33% of the time and require weekends, vacations, get sick, may resign suddenly and whatever is just too sweet.
>>741777648Have you tried making an argument as to why what I just said is incorrect or are you so mentally deficient that a flimsy ad-hom which isn't even mildly interesting is the best you can muster?
Valve is a small fry in this game. Them acting like they have any bargaining power and then using that as the cope to explain the pricing is expected.
>>741765115
>>741777782You won the argument bro. Looking forward to seeing the AI/Crypto Bootleg Dragon Ball / One Piece games you have in mind. Not saying this in bad faith by the way!
>>741777791/v/ overestimates how much money and influence Valve has all the time. Retards in this board genuinely think valve are pussies because they haven't tried to fight the credit card duopoly which dwarfs them in size by a factor of several thousand.
>>741777562You NEED to kys
>>741776074Yup
>>741777493>the LLM has to iterate through entire datasetthat's not how LLMs work>A medical company that tries to use AI to research/vibe new medicine or get a diagnosis from X-ray simply doesnt need roman history, US presidential achievements or knowledge about Mesopotamian wars in its dataset. A LLM trained only on medical texts would be retarded. The size of the training data directly scales how good the LLM is at understanding what it's asked and forming an appropriate reply, even if the most of the information in the training set is not directly useful for the current query.Not that a purpose built AI for medical research and diagnosis would be a LLM in the first place.You have no idea what you're talking about but you've convinced yourself that you're qualified to discuss the topic
>>741776718clearly the correct thing to do would be to infiltrate the building and take their ramsticksa modern robin hood if you will
>>741777919The ram shit is crazy, but acting like Valve's 100k-500k order of ram should have resulted in a better response from ram makers is funny. Again, it is the usual pr statement by valve to use as cope. The same thing when people laughed at the 8 vram and valve claimed that it was better than 70% of steam survey hardware or them now claiming that it "basically" is being sold at cost.
>>741778250I fully believe them that they tried to reach 600. I also believe in corporations being stupid af.
>>741777493Reminds me how there was a fan remaster of DBZ that came out like a year ago using actual Toei film being scanned and color corrected and nothing more to train the upscaler model, which resulted in footage that looks indistinguishable from the film scans because thats literally all it knows how to do and needs to do.
>>741763886Valve didn't win against THE Rothschilds.Leigh Rothschild, the Jewish patent troll they beat in court, is from a different Rothschild family that isn't related to the European banking dynasty.Similar to how Samuel L Jackson and Michael Jackson are both black men with the same last name but aren't related at all.Being sued by the actual Rothschilds from Europe (Leigh is American) would be a much, much bigger deal.
>>741778693Are you not paying attention to the sudden deluge of suits from EU states?
>>741763973>well duh ram is in high demandProofs? AI companies buying up ECC RAM for Servers is in high demand. But that has a limit and cap if you buy in bulk like that faggot Altman does, you buy on contract obligations of on mass orders, once, not continuously over years.70% of the Datacenters promised to built are all on full halt, not even close to being finished.Consumer RAM? No way fucking way. Never was. Never will be in high demand.Those who do DIY are such a low marging compared to the faggots who buy pre-builds with 16-64GB of RAM. Those who buy workstation with 128GB or more are even lower amount. It's scam if anyting. Corponiggers are colluding together. They're literally pretending to have scarcity so they can pump up the fucking price up 1000%.
>>741778693>Samuel L Jackson and Michael Jackson are both black men with the same last name but aren't related at all.
>>741763978Yes Mr. Fed please tell me where I can put my social insurance number so we can MAKE THIS HAPPEN
>>741778984Lawsuits from EU and EU states are like wet water, most EU states are going bankrupt as is the EU itself so they need to find any possible excuses to tax American businesses. This is normal.
>>741779123Hey Ed.
>>741778693THE European dynasty who controls the concept OF fiscal currency?
>>741777791>say you don't have bargaining power >Them acting like they have any bargaining powerRetards sure are a mystery.
>>741763886If not cartel why cartel shaped?
>>741777375why are the dutch so powerful?
>>741778984What is that supposed to prove?Are you implying that the capital-R Rothschilds are wasting their valuable time fucking with a videogame company because some poor peasant amerishart retard they aren't affiliated with got BTFO in court?I share a last name with a famous Hollywood actor. If some idiot rear-ends me in traffic is he going to sue the guy that dented my car for me because we share a name?
>>741777121>The company is UK based so all of upper management is indians which probably explains it lmaoHindu mafia. I hate that shit so much because at my previous job my sup/admin and manager were both hindu. I'd rather have a SEA mafia, atleast pinoys like me a lot.
>>741763978Add me in the screenshot when this nigga gets captured by chitwood
>>741763886>Rotschilds.steamies keep making this claim but when i looked into i found only a singular Roth child
>>741779813Dutch are the OG jews, they established the first joint-stock companies.
>>741764098why are we pretending like this is an issue?you install one game, you play it, finish it, uninstall and move on to the next oneand with 512gb you have options to keep 2 or 3 evenso why's this an issue at all? or are you one of those people who hoard games they never play?
>>741780187It literally is because the same year we got a jeet ceo damn near every bong in upper management was let go and some indian would take their place.
>>741775098The Machine's shit specs won't even run GTA6
>>741763886getting sick of the obvious sabotage, I hope the whole system collapses like mr robot but I won't puss out like robot did "oh no the society think of the starving normies" fuck society, eat shit and die.
>>741763886The Rothschilds never lose tranny.
>>741764342Gabe unironically has the money for that
>>741776105>breaks groundAKA we are doing something, but will absolutely abandon it and blame on the bubble popping
>>741777068He's correct, everybody knew it was going to be 1k minimum, because everybody else was getting crunched by the shortages, the only way to be cheaper was if volvo themselves ate the cost.
>>741777375I hope they have fun getting drowned by cheap chink chips then.
>>741781559Shortages didn't start until after the Steam Machine announcement. Even in December I got a graphics card for cheap. Costs more than 100 EUR extra now.
>>741763978I 100% support theft and hardware black markets and the murder of any security guards getting in the way of those data centers but destroying the hardware is pointless
>How come a millionaire with a monopoly on pc gaming can't manufacture ram? It's stupid!Fab manufacturers are incredibly expensive to build up, take years to do, and require highly specialized skills
>>741781834Bullshit, by the time the gabe cube was announced, AI already had sent RAM prices into the moon, and after that the price of every other piece also was sent there too.The ex-fat man with their puny 500k order couldn't even dent the infinite money AI had, and with altman saying>Btw we bought 50% of all RAM for the next 5 years, have fun lol
>>741781136Money is just a small piece of it, you don't enter a cartel with just money.
>>741777682The amount of "ask an AI assistant!" buttons I’ve seen popping up on my work's computer programs is baffling.Bitch, this is a video call, what on earth are you shoehorning AI in here for?
>>741782281You could still find deals on RAM in November. The prices properly mooned right after. December to January was the actual moonshot for the price graph.
>>741783183How could my potential customer feel? Give me 101 psychological tips on how to tackle this email, but summarize it in 25 words. Does she really think I'm too late or is this a metaphor? My boss is Indian after all. List 10 Xmas presents for Indian-American ceos that will guarantee me a promotion (750 bucks minimum!)
>>741783183Automatically respond to all my e-mails in a way that seems helpful at a glance but is actually completely non-committal.
>>741778047>The size of the training data directly scales how good the LLM is at understandingSo you're saying we need 150T models? 'cause none of the currently existing models have *any* understanding at all.
>>741763978so true sis! trans rights are human rights!
>>741764098>You install 3 modern gamesAAAslop games*if you're playing those in the first place, you're a retarded negroid
>>741763983With no input device whatsoever so you can't even use it without spending more money anyway.Fucking retard.
>>741785479That's literally what AI peddlers do. Push higher and higher parameter counts hoping they will stumble into AGIBut no, what I'm saying is that if you train a 100b model on 1TB of medical data, you will get worse medical outputs than if you train a 1T model on 9TB of random data and 1TB of medical data. The sheer size matters more than the specific content
>>741764098>You install 3 modern gamesAh well there is your issue, don't play modern unoptimized garbage!
If you retards legitimately believe that the "ram shortage" isn't contrived then unironically you do not deserve to use computers.The memory industry is notoriously corrupt and there is a huge market for anti-AI sentiment. Can't tell how many of you are shills vs actual retards, but both of you deserve to be forcibly put into labor camps.
>>741786818It's a pig cycle and I called it in 2021. It's easy to compute. 2021 was before the llm craze.
>>741786818stop noticing, just believe the algorithm.
