Unlike the average skigger I have no desire to play The Crew tm by Ubislop.
>>741775254Cool, you'll still be able to play it if you want.
Okay, I'm still getting consumer rights, you can just not play bad games.
>>741775254I have a desire in media not getting permanently memoryholed.
>I WANT LESS CONSUMER RIGHTS YASSenjoy your physical edition being a download code in a box
>>741775254It was always doomed to fail. Maybe if they had proposed something that would modify license agreements when a company goes under to stop access being pulled would have worked. This whole idea of forcing a single player mode be available is only something a high schooler might think is a good idea.
>>741776417Nice gaslighting.
I'll remember that when I'm pirating games
>>741776417>This whole idea of forcing a single player mode be available is only something a high schooler might think is a good idea.Thats never been what he's been asking for, thats just retards that can't read making shit up.All he's ever asked for is that the companies make the tools available to host your own servers if they don't wanna host the servers anymore. Its a totally normal thing that basically every multiplayer game used to do before they became "Games as a service".
>>741776587That's unrealistic and unreasonable. They should have gone after the licenses.
>>741776743>That's unrealistic and unreasonable.Explain how, because it used to be standard practice.
>>741775254It's over. It failed. No one gives a shit about the middlemen involved trying to parlay this into a lobbying career. Let it lie in peace. Find some other pointless bullshit to spam the board with.
>>741776417It was doomed to fall when they decided to tie seething about woke shit to the movement.
>>741776949You can't just make things up. Give 5 examples of this being "standard practice".
The only regulation needed was big stickers on the front of game box telling you the playability state of the game can change or be removed entirely in the future.It's not your IP, not your game, companies deserve the right to shut down software they no longer willing to maintain AND are not obligated to allow alternative methods of play.
>>741776587>all he's asking for is that companies be required to hand out dedicated server tools that can easily be reverse-engineered, thus exposing their entire codebaseAnd that's a non-starter.In b4 one of two cope strategies: pretending the logical consequence of what you're asking for isn't what you're asking for, or imagining some contrived scenario like just releasing documentation as if that isn't even worse.
>>741777106>It's over. It failed.Most definitely false. The commission will not create a new law, but thanks to overwhelming parliament support it will be amended to the Digital Fairness Act.
>>741777108?? I literally haven't seen this
>>741776949It also used to be standard practice for Doctors to fish around in your body with un-sterilized tools to take out bullets that HAD been sterilized by the heat of firing, killing millions with unnecessary sepsis."We used to do it this way" is not a good argument for why everyone should be forced to do it that way now.
>>741777426Sure thing, kiddo, whatever you need to tell yourself.Next time don't get your ego wrapped up in something so fucking stupid. Save that kind of emotional investment for something that actually matters. Don't give it up to the first cult that winks at you.
>>741777279The issue is that an entire generation now truly believes that licenses are okay and it's okay for companies to take things you purchased away from you on a whim.
>>741775254I really wonder if more people would have cared about SKG if Ross didnt look so offputting
>>741777279But they didn't have those stickers which is exactly why we wound up at this point. It's still 100% the devs fault this shit is happening.
>>741775254its was never just about the crew tm by ubisoft you disingenuous kike
>>741777686Actually the issue is kids like you were never taught, well, just about anything. You don't understand the world or anything in it and when it doesn't align with your expectations you throw a tantrum because you weren't taught emotional regulation either.
>>741777536you are brown
Didn't they shitcan this already? Move the fuck on your retarded faggots
>the crewyou can just emulate a local server, no? who gives a shit. stop being a consumercuck and pirate when you need
>>741777873>Putting planned obsolescence into digital software is le good, becasue it's just is, mmmkay?!
>We can't make games you can always launch and play like they've been doing for the past half century because... look it just can't be done okay?!
>>741777426What exactly will this achieve Lyn?
>>741777873i understand the world just fine, sometimes lower class peasant trash feel obliged to defend their jewish masters for a salary, and some do it for free
>>741777873I'm 35 and you are projecting like a retard. The issue is that we allowed contracts to be written in Terms of Service and never pushed back. There is zero(0)none NO implied ownership and you give up all your rights by "agreeing".And that's not even going into how companies have an actual right to shut down mod projects they don't like or that creators try to profit from.
>>741776417It was over the moment they asked the government to fuck with the entertainment industry. Everyone forgets that the entertainment industry has an iron grip on the government(s) balls, and that they'll bend over backwards to appease it.
>>741775254You don't need to tell us you like to get fucked in the ass by corporations.
>>741777735SKG faced multiple and obviously fatal problems from the word go, the largest one being that it was an initiative created and defined and supported by laymen - that is to say people without the relevant expertise to make anyone give a shit what they think beyond general sentiment. This is why all the "support" Ross kept touting amounted to lukewarm statements acknowledging some consumers are disgruntled.Other problems included a scope that was WAY too wide, a "front man" uninterested in and incapable of actual discussion or being an actual public face, a lot of angry retards and kids being loud obnoxious cunts while tying themselves to SKG, and hate groups seeing those loud obnoxious cunts and going "I bet we can make a few of them hate Jews with this">>741778028That's not what planned obsolescence is, and this kind of shit is exactly why you weren't taken seriously.
>>741778190They tax our income and our purchases while forcing us to buy insurance yet actual consumer protections are nil because guess who has lobbyists on the payroll.
Anti-SKG subhumans should book a flight.
>>741775254Doesn't matter your shortsighted nig nog, the idea is to change laws for all games going forward for decades.
>>741778187>There's no implied ownership (of someone else's IP)So you got to 35 and you still don't know a goddamned thing, impressive!>And that's not even going into (thing that is incorrect)lollmao
cru1 is actually good thougheverbeit
>>741778113Total goat victory
>>741778236>hate groups seeing those loud obnoxious cunts and going "I bet we can make a few of them hate Jews with thissweet now we know these anti-SKG threads are made by actual kike shills lol
In other news, the California Bill just passed the "Privacy, Digital Technologies, and Consumer Protection" senate committee (6Y-2N-1A) after hearing from both support and the ESA.If you'd like to hear ESA skip to 3:30:35 on https://www.senate.ca.gov/media/senate-privacy-digital-technologies-and-consumer-protection-20260622It now moves on to the "Business, Professions and Economic Development" senate committee with amendmentshttps://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=202520260AB1921
>>741778280>IF YOU DON'T DO WHAT I WANT I- I'LL KILL YOU HAHAHAA DIE DIE DIESo glad it got shut down, EU should never have given this idiot a platform.
>>741778307>no arguments, just attacksYour concession is accepted.
>>741778236I did see Kiwifarms insert themselves into the discussion for attention, as usual
>>741778236i have to ask you this: how come six million of you just allowed yourselves to be genocided? how come you just surrendered and allowed yourselves to be put on trains and sent to death camps in single file line? did nobody even bother fighting back at all? that's extremely pathetic. imagine just giving up like that.
>>741778236>That's not what planned obsolescence isOkay let's look it up:Planned obsolescence is a business strategy where a manufacturer deliberately designs a product to have a limited lifespan or to become functionally outdated after a certain period.Wow that's sound like exatcly what they doing.
>>741778401Emotional regulation is a skill that must be practiced.Try harder.>>741778529>I looked it up but not reallycool storyPlanned obsolescence is a term that applies to hardware and physical goodsYou are the very far left of the dunning-kruger curve
>>741776417What do you mean fail? Europe had a rare moment of clarity where they realized the movement was at odds with the states censorship goals but they achieved total victory in California, that's all that's needed, the statists won and now we wait for the horrors to come from it
>>741778484>>741778236Yeah turning PirateSoftware into a lolcow was the definitive end of any hope for SKG, if those people attach themselves to your movement and you don't nip that shit in the bud it's over for you.
>>741778682>Bill leaves committee in California and hasn't been scheduled for discussion or a vote and may never be>"TOTAL VICTORY"Embarrassing.
>>741778280>anyone who knew that it wasn't going anywhere is Anti-SKGNo, we just aren't retarded and know how these things go.Even in the best-case-scenario, SKG would've been implemented ten years later in a watered-down state with explicit exceptions to certain companies.
>>741778762>Bill leaves committee in California and hasn't been scheduled for discussion or a vote and may never be>>741778435
>>741778796>this entire post
>>741778614>Planned obsolescence is a term that applies to hardware and physical goodsit applies to any product, retard
>>741775254Good thing that it applies to all games then. In the future it might even apply to your car, unless you want to live in a time-line where that thing doesn't start anymore because the manufacturer decided to no longer maintain the software for it.
>>741778834Yes, that is the post talking about it leaving one committee and not being scheduled for discussion or a vote.Do you think leaving committee means it passed the state house and senate? Can you read?>>741778859You're just wrong m8.
>>741778614Okay keep pretending to be retarded then
>>741776417>things that aren't true>every SKG thread>>741778682The shit isn't even done in Europe yet.
>>741778916actually i'm right and you're wrong + brown
>>741778916>not being scheduled for discussion or a vote.>Do you think leaving committee means it passed the state house and senate? Can you read?Can you? Next committee discussion + vote June 29th
>kills rocksmithdefend this ubishills
>>741779028Anon...that's the committee hearing date.You don't know what that is do you
SKG's failure should be a clear message about what happens when you don't properly police the discourse around your project.Nobody wants to be associated with this shit, it's absolutely nuclear thanks to the rampant bigotry.
>>741779203It's literally the next discussion and vote for the bill. Are you trying to argue that it's somehow bad that it goes through committees even though this is the same legislative process it had to do in assembly?
>>741779346>It's literally the next discussion and vote for the billSo no, then.Total Victory amirite lel
>>741779424>no argumentsI accept your concession.
the anti-SKG kike shills on here don't even care about the initiative, they're just afraid of more gamers organizing behind something and being taught about what jews have been doing behind the scenes like was the case during GG. it's becoming increasingly obvious from the botted posts in here
>>741775254>I have no desire to live in a tiny house, i have no desire to drive a shitbox car, I have no desire to marry a BPD woman or have shitty children. Therefore I will die alone as a rent slave and I will campaign for owning nothinglet me know how that works out for you.
>>741779573>trying to associate SKG with GGIt's like you're trying to make it fail
It was already incredibly pathetic to get tricked into bigotry from GamergateGetting radicalized by this dumb bullshit has got to be a new low
>>741779725Trying?Anon the Bannon playbook has been in use from the start, this shit was IMMEDIATELY recognized as fertile ground for recruitment.
>>741775254Why did he go silent?
>>741779725that's exactly why you faggots are shidding and farding over it. you're just a self absorbed kike terrified of being named. who are you guys fooling anymore
>>741775254Neither do I, but I'd like to be able to play Genshit offline legally when it inevitably goes EoS.
nuke israel
>>741779837Ubisoft secretly paid him off with the one and only singleplayer offline copy of The Crew, so he's fully satisfied now.
im so tired of the baiteverything has to be subverted in to its oppositewar is peacefreedom is slaveryignorance is strength
>jeet youtuber is a nazithis is who's telling you that you're a neo nazi chud if you don't support planned obsolescence
>>741775604That's already been happening. I don't get why you bitch about things that have been happening for over a decade.Same people who cry about having to be online in 2026. If that's really that much of a problem, maybe gaming isn't the hobby for you. Go outside and play with sticks and rocks or someshit.
>>741780098I'll just pirate your game
>>741780174My game? Who do you think I am?
>>741780082in case you had any doubts when i called this thread jewish kek
>>741776582How do you pirate online infrastructure?
>>741780263why would I do that?
>>741777263https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Category:Self-hostingI can do you a bit better than five
>>741777263Any Source game with multiplayerThe older Battlefield gamesThe entirety of the OG Xbox catalog that supports System Link to host your own multiplayer sessionsCall of Duty letting you host Dedicated Servers yourself with tools that are still on SteamThe fact that games used to have server browsers instead of central matchmaking
>>741780082>>741780217>who the fuck is this>look it up>some retard mini-Asmongold that loves Zionism and shits on dead babies in PalestineSo just another TrumperHilarious
>>741780208a faggot
>>741780594Your mom sucks dicks with her butthole.
I will remind them every thread...
>>741778796This may be true, but it's blisteringly retarded to think Russia is some kind of solution.Look at Ukraine. Their arguments for that all basically came down to "We invaded them for their own good."So... our oligarchs are bad, therefore Ukraine needs to be attacked by a host of orcs? The logic here is asinine. Western oligarchs being cunty is a whole separate matter. Russian oligarchs are equally as cunty, and in addition to that they're a failed state ruled by a dictator. Cucking to that is an abject humiliation.
>>741780493Call of Duty 4 had dedicated servers that are still active to this day. That's why the sequel used p2p connections and killed the entire scene on purpose.
>>741780687I'll remember your tantrum while I'm pirating your game
This thread smells of borscht and curry
>>741777106>reddit letter media
>>741780894I don't think you even have the know-how to pirate a game, favela monkey. You probably think you need a boat.
>>741780579your projection is showing there rabbi. don't forget that despite wasting your life shilling here you have achieved nothing. you just drive people away into corners of the internet you'll never find
>>741778796But Russians are also being replaced with the 3rd world and they've got the most muslims of any country in Europe, plus constant immigration from Russia's south (or at least that was the case before the war and before the Russian economy started going belly-up).
>>741777928no you can't, also illiterate retard bro, this isn't about just the crew, this is about ALL vidya that was ever made.
>>741780876Russians can't take responsibility for their own behavior.Get democracy, stop attacking your neighbors.THEN you can roleplay like you're actually civilized. You're a violent vatnigger authoritarian living under the thumb of government that's literally structured like an criminal syndicate. You have a fucking dictator. Nobody is going to listen to you cucks about freedom, or whatever the hell it is your trying to yap about.
>>741781036>your projection is showing!>proceeds to project harder than anyone in human history
>>741781035You seem upset about me pirating your game
>>741781179
>>741781179>no utypical jewish tantrum
>>741781228>>741781268The funniest part about this is that you're replying to someone that was mad about a streamer supporting Israel over PalestineI know you ruskis are kind of dumb but come on now
Reminder that if people like OP actually had any actual power we would still have cars without seatbelts and bread full of sawdust.
>>741781210If I had a game, I'd make sure your caveman level PC couldn't run it.
>>741781245Here's the difference: When we learned about Epstein, we hated it, and we've been bitching about it ever since. The fact that we hate Epstein is why you're even bringing it up.Meanwhile, Putin is a murderous dictator, and you would get down on your hands and knees and lick his cock if you could.
>>741781617How does that stop me from pirating your game?
>>741781469it's funny that we're pretending you're not a hysterical jew afraid that SKG will be a repeat of gamergate and that this is your damage control
>>741781245Kek why has nobody asked in Parliament yet>Have we Ethnically Cleansed London with Mass Immigration?I'd pay good money to see the reactions of the gormless human shit inhabiting those vaunted halls>>741781648>*censors "Epstein" in private messages on tiktok*
>>741781742>you're afraid SKG will be a repeat of GamergateAnon I'm not sure you realize that you just admitted Gamergate was a recruitment drive for neo-nazis.You literally just proved my point for me.
>>741781469still not buying whatever you're selling
>>741780098>cancerous shit happening is okay because it has been already happeningneck yourself you brown subhuman
>>741781920>Gamergate was a recruitment drive for neo-nazis.Gamergate was literally just people on here being retards because the janis told them that gossiping about a dude getting cheated on isn't actually videogames just because he wrote some articles
>>741777263Doom, the fucking game that basically kickstarted multiplayer is still playable to this day because it was made with it without jewish mindset.Now go fuck yourself, faggot.
>>741782042every example given has been at least 20 years old. The reason for that is the internet. Once payment processing was available on all pc/console everything changed. Games simply aren't made like that anymore.
>>741778435The ESA needs to be abolished
>>741775254Xhey don't want to play the ubishit mmo either, bro. If xhey did, xhey would've been playing on the private server that has been running since March of 2023, a whole fucking year before the official servers shut down!
>>741781920NTA but you're right we're all neo-nazis ooooh scary nazi magic (wolfenstein was real and we're coming for you)
>>741781920you're proving my point. you're only here shilling because you're afraid SKG can be a heckin' neo nazi recruitment drive. this is clearly something you're concerned about
>>741781742>jew afraid that SKG will be a repeat of gamergateAre you gonna start posting interracial cuckshit of Asuka, like you do on blacked.gov?
>>741782316but I like watching their speedruns
>>741782201I wish I could just shoot communist furries...
>>741782313>hurrr durrryou have no fucking idea of what you are talking about, the internet already existed when doom launched you fucking retard.Also, if you look there are games made in the last 5 years who have dedicated server support
>>741782381>you are concerned that impressionable retards will be radicalized by this dumb bullshitYes? That was pretty explicit. You're not very bright.
>>741782381More like a recruitment of niggerdick obsessed pedophiles.
>>741782313>every example given has been at least 20 years old. The reason for that is the internet. Once payment processing was available on all pc/console everything changed. Games simply aren't made like that anymore.Anon you're just making shit up, and you're being retarded about it. The only reason why companies don't provide the tools for hosting a private server is because they want you to buy the next one instead of playing the old one.
>>741782886Ironic considering you're an impressionable retard that was radicalized by dumb bullshit
>>741782784Internet connectivity is not payment processing at scale which didn't happen until the bubble in early 00's.>>741783235I made up nothing. Putting together a private server is not the same as native dedicated server options.
>>741775254I just wish to get a playable version of Terra Battle to finish the story
>>741775254>/v/igger is looking at the finger pointing at the moon and not the moonMany such cases
>>741783235>The only reason why companies don't provide the tools for hosting a private server is because they want you to buy the next one instead of playing the old one.Companies don't provide hosting tools because they don't want to do the extra work of developing them, the business doesn't want to support them, the licensing agreements they made when purchasing whatever services or packages they integrated into their servers don't extend to end users, and they don't want their code exposed to datamining and decompilation.
>>741780579>>some retard mini-Asmongold that loves Zionism and shits on dead babies in PalestineThey voted for it.
>>741780098Can you guarantee that your servers will be up 100% of the time with no unplanned outages? Because Sony sure as fuck cannot.Nobody could play GT for like a month shortly after release because of that cock up.
>>741783470so you admit they have to be developed
>>741782886>yeah in fact i WAS making these anti-SKG threads because i'm a kike afraid of le nazishahahaHAHAHA the fuck
>>741781742that's hikari
>>741783806might be true
>>741784019that's nozomi
>>741775254
>>741775254SKG applies to single player games as well as long as they have patching and authentication checks. Software copyright and the DMCA are poorly thought out and have only deteriorated further with the development of the internet.>>741777279>It's not your IP, not your game, companies deserve the right to shut down software they no longer willing to maintain AND are not obligated to allow alternative methods of play.No. Copy Right is a privilege that can not be interpreted as being congruent with a right to shut down software (At least in freedom respecting countries)>To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries.If the software is shut down, then it is not promoting the progress of science and useful arts. If the software is not considered science or a useful art, then it should also not be protected under copy right.If the software is shut down and not preserved in a functional state, then it is not being protected for a "limited time", since the lack of functionality will be indefinite and thus will not be able to pass into the public domain.Though I guess the US constitution doesn't matter anyway, since the Supreme Court are all bought and senile.
lobbies are too strong, we lost it's over U_U