Why did Shiren never took off in the west? It's better than PMD in every way
>>741780506bceause (You) are (gay)
Doesn't say "Pokemon" on the front.
>>741780506It's not. PMD has the better characters.
>>741780506Nethack exists.
>>741780506PMD has hot furries in it
>>741780506It's a niche of a niche. Traditional roguelikes are already a hard sell for most outside of a few flagship titles like Caves of Qud and Dwarf Fortress. Mystery Dungeons without a more normie adjacent franchise like Pokemon or Dragon Quest is an even tougher sell.
>find shop>just doing some ID stuff>some fuckass green ninja enters the room and logs my ass>mfw I had a spooned wallpass bracelet and it triggers thief mode
>>741780506Most of the series never even released in the west
>>741780506>Why did Shiren never took off in the west?FUCKING LOOK AT IT. It looks like shit. Why the fuck would anyone play that trash? And I don't know what "PMD" is either btw.
>>741784991The latest game looks cheap. The 2D games and Shiren 2 look great though.
>>741780506The mystery dungeon genre will never be popular because it's full of too much bullshit RNG.
>>741785151If you think it's "bullshit RNG" it's because you don't know how to play, most of the time. The main story dungeons tend to be pretty easy, but beginners will call them entirely dependent on RNG because they don't know what they're doing.
>>741780791>P-player... *Shits self* ...uuuu...uwaaaahhhh....I'm so sad you've been INCONVENIENCEEEEEEDkino
>>741780506Roguelikes have and always will be a niche genre, Anon. Even though the Mystery Dungeon sub-genre has prettier visuals, it's still too clunky and ugly for broader audiences. You really do need a brand name like Pokemon, and even then, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon isn't as big as the mainline games, not even close.
>>741781574>or Dragon QuestMan, they should do another Dragon Quest one. Or at least re-release the Yangus game so it can finally get a translation.
>>741784991I mean I like how it looks, but I'm not Joe Blow.
>>741785269>it's because you don't know how to play, most of the timeAnd that's enough to filter a vast majority. PMD succeeds because of the IP and the fact that you are guaranteed to succeed.
>>741780506Mystery Dungeon games are kinda crap... The best one I've played was the Touhou one and that was good in spite of being a Mystery Dungeon.
>>741785408Yes, true.
(T)RLs are just niche everywhere thougheven if the game gives you a tomboy childhood sweetheart
>>741780506>shallow gameplay>boring samey repetitive dungeons>hideous graphicsYou're not special for liking this literally-who nipslop
despite 100%ing the game I still do deep rescues here and there. Its such a great system for these kind of games. I would never use it for my own runs, but I like doing them and see what kinda bullshit was able to kill someone on F94 of some end game dungeonits always a monster house full of reapers