https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO5KpP-CB2khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRNipusw_5gwas this downgrade worth it?it sounds terribleit looks terribleit plays terriblethese cutscenes were pointlessjust. play. the. original.
Cut scenes expand on shit that never needed to be stated. Nothing of value added, but the mystery was killed.
>>741788452that's why it's not worth it.but that's every remake in existence
The fucking train boss's death is likeIt's so lame
Snoy thread.
>>741786826>>741788452>>741789108>>741789378Oh fuck off, snoy.
>>741789501>>741789718>it's the snoyscome on...it's just not as good as 64
>>741786826It looks objectively great outside the questionable character designs.Your criticisms would be more credible if you could bring yourself to acknowledge the positives, but it's just forced hate for the sake of hating.
>>741786826>hate the game please i'm begging you
>>741789832Release this version alongside SF64 in 1997, and your dumb nostalgia-riddled as would be singing a different tune.
>>741789832You 64snoys have been getting assfucked all year between this and the OoT remake and I'm glad to see it.
I don't get why voice acting is in the shitter across the industry. Its like they don't realize its more than just reading from a script. Everything sounds like its been dubbed by random nobodies pulled from youtube. I would say pulled from the streets but you'd probably find more unique voices and natural talent there.
>>741786826>looks kino>new modes are hella kino>art style of ships are hella kino>character models are... kinda mid but its OK>voice actors are.... cringe overload, terminal amounts of cringe, i cant deal with itsad
Watching this crash and burn will be yet another satisfying nail in Nintendo's coffin.
>>741790417mute kino..
>>741790109>>741789989>>741789909>>741789718>>741789501you guys like sucking nintendo's cock?
>>741788452This. We need cutscenes of them sitting in a room drinking coffee for 10 minutes.
>>741789718I'm a starfox guy, I'm saying it looks way worse.Just compare https://youtu.be/wXKhF0Jj1JI?si=YhoFt0pOjeyEI3ym&t=96tohttps://youtu.be/fO5KpP-CB2k?si=jl5vjkybCIyvKgiN&t=2712A hammy space opera should have michael bay level explosions, not this shit.
>>741790224One of the VAs is an e-celeb
>>741786826>Snoy demoralization threadKeep shitting on the Switch 2 game, I'll buy it to spite you.
>>741791647As much as you like sucking the cocks of the companies you like.
already preordered and preinstalled, nigger.
Star Fox "fans" are the new OoTsnoys. Deranged ex-fans that seethe at Nintendo 24/7 then proceed to be surprised when people call them out as being snoys.
>>741791881i just hate what gaming has become.demakes are not the way forward and people should finally realize that they are not worth playing over the originals whatsoever
>>741786826>hourly snoy NDS thread
>>741792126Indeed, old good new bad, all things today exist only to destroy the past and rape the future, better to leave this realm than be twisted.
>>741791647>but it's perfectly fine when I suck Valve, Sony, and Pocket Pair's dicks
My condolences burgenistan, your dubs are beyond repair.
>>741786826>>741791757>HURR OLD GOOD NEW BADKeep seething, snoy cubie faggot.
>>741791757I wonder how the train crashing into the station is like in the new one.
>>741786826I actually like these new cutscenes discussing where to go, reminds me of command and conquer and adds more context to the world.The voice acting though, holy fucking shit is it emotionless and while most of it looks good some areas are just so EMPTY with such detailed textures and no fog.
>>741789501This is accurate but add Gacha and anime slop
>>741792091Pretty much this.
wtf is this shit?where is my green background?why does he have thrusters under his ears?why does he look so fucking ugly?
>>741786826Thanks, I'm watching this the whole way, enjoying my evening
>>741792670>where is my green background?Probably trying to make the arena aesthetically cohesive to the not-maze path to and from it.>why does he have thrusters under his ears?Probably to justify why he's floating since he's no longer in the green void.>why does he look so fucking ugly?Andross was always ugly.
>>741792670>why does the giant evil monkey look ugly!?When was he ever handsome and sexy?
>>741786826that guy REALLY sucks at playing the game, wish someone who was actually good at vidya got an early upload. >it sounds terriblesounded fine to me. i was a bit harsh on the voices but they grew on me. rob was still a huge downgrade though he sounds like a huge FAGGOT in the remake. hit sound effects for bosses are too soft though, i miss the meaty cracking sounds from snes and n64 where it sounded like shit was breaking with every successful hit you landed.>it looks terriblelooks great to me anon thats a really weird complaint. >it plays terribledefinitely an aged playstyle but if its a remaster then i'd see why they'd hesitate to change too much about the game otherwise purists would start raging.
>>741792670He's literally a giant floating robot head, it's not until hard mode where you fight the actual Andross
Slippy sounds like a massive faggot
>>741790224Americans
>>741789832Its a 1:1 game with extra skipable cutscenes and a story thats 1:1 with the jap original
>>741790224When was vidya voice acting ever good? Decent voicework is such a rarity that it’s usually a selling point in and of itself.
>>741793575This. I wish we could go back to the non-American voice actors we had in the English Star Fox 64 dub.
>>741793709Expedition 33
>>741790224The VA's had to do one take.
>>741786826ngl, Katt looks way better than I thought she did based on that one screenshot everyone posts.
>>741790224>Everything sounds like its been dubbed by random nobodies pulled from youtube.That's literally the case now
>>741794529Yeah, they used the most unflattering shot of her for the trailer. I don't understand it.
>>741793529>Sounds
>>741793709It used to be acceptable. It never needed to be "good", it just needed to get the point across for the tone they were going for. Now everything is sub par and brings down the experience completely. This is what happens when nothing is done in house. Nintendo used to pull from theater for their voice acting. They got Rick May for Peppy. Now casting is done by outside companies and Nintendo just signs off on it. Nepotism is rampant and people that have no business being in the industry are put front and center.
>>741791694unironically why doesn't anyone do this
>>741796294
>>741792091this is truei'm in the dedicated ootsnoy discord and we're raiding 4chan this moment
>>741794529can you post one image?
>>741786826What retard is playing this? Takes like 10 minutes on andross
>>741791603Switch to JP audio.
I thought gameplay was the most important thing, and you're complaining about the voices? Change the language if you have to.
>>741786826Yeah I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
No Macbeth explosion?
>>741797571do you want to upgrade to supersize for just $2.00 extra?
>>741792091TrulyA snoy is just a tendie that actually likes their games instead of having a cause
Wow the Sector Y boss is a totally different character. What a fucking downgeade.
>>741790224AI voice acting will fix this
>>741796215ThisVA went from usually being done by people in varying stages of theater education. Now it's a very small, nuclear nepo corral, and people will get pissy if you try to ignore them and just look for theater students.
>>741788452>Star Fox 64>mystery???
>>741797667yeah I'll treat myself today
>>741789832You retarded faggot, this guy has been falseflagging this image for months, even dropping it in completely unrelated threads.
The Andross battle and the escape with James is fucking HORRIBLE
>>741790224all the good actors unionized and nintendo doesn't want to work with the union. So now you get tumblrites and youtubers as actors and you'll like it
WTF
>>741792091ootsnoy on the igpay atinlay
>>741798571Here's a tip, don't use terms if you don't know what they mean
>>741798914I don't know why people are complaining so much about the designs of them, they are the best thing about this.I prefer an actual fox looking creature stuffed into a suit much more than the bell headed weirdo he has been for the last 20 years.
>>741796754I accept your concession.
Would it be Banjosnoy or Banjo Kazooiesnoy?
I see the Mariosnoys are having a meltie again
>>741792434https://youtu.be/SF18oz0H8-0?si=op5P5hO55K3AvkTI&t=7865Still kinda pathetic.
>>741786826Old voices are better but I'll give it a chance.
>>741799131Here's a tip, keep sucking faggot.
>>741799935That's fucking awful.
>>741790224David Hayter set off a domino effect that has effectively killed off english voice acting with the sole exception of Dragon Ball, and even that didn't come out unscathed because of the Vic drama that ruined Broly.
>>741799935Fuck.They changed Shogun to honorable samurai.No more COCKY LITTLE FREAKS;_;
>Great Fox doesn't crest over the horizon at the end
>>741799935>no satisfying "i can't STOP IIIEEET" screamgod lord, the voice acting in this is horribleand the realistic explosions kinda killed it completely
>>741786826If you think about it, this Starfox remake is Pragmata for furries.
Why did Koizumi do it
>>741786826>it plays terribleit plays basically the same but with smoother framerate. I'm all for shitting on the game for the actual problems, but we don't need to lie about things for the point of it being worse than the original in terms of art style and sound design to be understood.
Andross voice lacks any kind of intimidation or monstrous presence
Aesthetically I think it looks good, everything has a cool sci-fi look, but these fucking voices man, everyone sounds asleep
>>741797990>Now it's a very small, nuclear nepo corral,this just simply isn't true because these studios always pull a new group of nobodies out of their hats for these things
>>741799935Original had the Supply Depot explode like 8 times with the final one being a giant one seen in the distance.https://youtu.be/_T8OB2mHo7E?si=ZxGYnPkacQJhqO59&t=66
I saw something from a guy who claims to be a low list voice actor. He said for these kinds of projects, where you have 2-3 pages of lines TOPS, it isn't uncommon to just do them over Zoom. They have you do a couple of takes and say "good enough, next line." If true it really explains the state of modern voice acting. These arent big budget, cinematic productions. "Fuck it, good enough" is what they aim for.
>>741801024the voice direction is really bad and even the sound design for gameplay elements is worse. all the explosions sound limp as hell, when in 64 they all had this big>BWOOOOOOsound to them. the dual lasers also sound worse, same with the charge laser.
>>741797109Not him but here
>>741801328seriously the supply depot explosion is arguably the greatest explosion in video game history but here it feels entirely flaccid
Were the voice actors scared of showing emotions or something? Also how do you fuck up the Macbeth explosion? It's a giant train running into a supply base for fuck sake.
>>741801024>Aesthetically I think it looks good, everything has a cool sci-fi lookReally wish “sci-fi look” didn’t just mean “everything's fucking green” though.
>>741797109
>The music doesn't get distorted when the sector x boss comes back to life
>>741801565I feel like it's less being afraid to show emotion, but less willing to ham it up. SF64 has less than 10 VAs IIRC, so alot of people were pulling double/triple duty for characters and bosses, so they had to really change up their performance for each one. had some real old school cartoon campy-ness to the performances, the new dub just sounds like people who grew up on bad anime english dubs mimicking those performances
>>741801820i don't know why, but it reminded me of the duval wink from one piece for some reason.
>>741801820how about a pussy?
The bosses sound mildly inconvenienced that they're about to explode. Only good moment was Fox's "face-off" line against True Andross.
>>741786826>just. play. the. original.But it's also shit. It's one of those series that were only popular because they were in the right place at the right time
>>741801820Also the timestamphttps://youtu.be/SF18oz0H8-0?t=2678
Snoys be like>find a way to play this ancient 30-year-old game or else you're evil
>>741789501>>741789832You do this in every Nintendo thread. You know this blatant falseflagging doesn't work, right?
>>741801910They removed the finger wag, too.Nintendo is an insane fool.
>>741797505We will complain about anything and everything, rage is our food, seethe is our drink, and hatred is our oxygen.
>>741799276You don't understand, I can't get off to actual animals, I need them to be humans wearing mascot heads.
>>741786826>finish true ending first run in about an hour with the cutscenes>go to play battle mode online>times out twice, fills with botsM-money well spent?
>>741802629>battle modegoing to be dead in a week
bad voice acting. not a good sign for oot remake desu.
>>741802629the multiplayer is shit out a butt but the campaign is meant to be replayed over and over to clear and eventually get medals in every one. didn't this also add a hard mode or am I misremembering >>741802737at least it'll be spared the extremely unflattering comparisons this game is getting as OoT had no VA before
>>741790109Half the reason people loved SF64 was the voice acting. At least with OoT they can't possibly fuck that up since the original never really had any.
>>741802695It's dead now at fucking launch, I tried 5 times but just bot queued and quit. Granted I'm Australian but on a games launch there's usually enough no hopers up playing for online matches cause it's new, I guess I'll try after I wake up
Why is it so hard for Nintendo to get voice acting right? BOTW/TOTK had ear rape anime weeb aids voice acting and this has dry flat wooden emotionless voice acting.
>>741803080union
>>741803080They're too cheap to get proper voice actors and direction. The only times they really nailed it was Star Fox 64 and Kid Icarus Uprising.
>>741786826>>741786826>just. play. the. original.no, just the demo alone is better than the N64 pixelated polygon slopits just a better experience, the controls are better now, the whole thing is streets ahead from the n64 version
>>741793709>When was vidya voice acting ever good?Star Fox 64 was good. KOTOR was good. Really it was all around pretty good from the 90's through 2010's. It only started going downhill very recently with the infiltration of youtubers and e-celebs rather than real voice actors.
>>741803120You'd think union voice actors would sound like professionals, unless you're saying Nintendo avoids hiring union actors to save money.
>>741803193how much did they pay ranjeesh
Capcom goes non union and they get good voice actors.
>its literally the same game>all cutscenes together have the same lenght as a whole route HOLYSHIT
>>741803229>recentlyin the case of nintendo breath of the wild came out almost a decade ago, and featured no youtubers. NoA is just bad at voice direction and casting now.
>>741803272it's the latter all the good actors go to unions and nintendo doesn't want to work with them so whoever's left is the most bargain bin tumblrinas and youtube ecelebs begging for a roleWhy else is the VO announcer for the nintendo directs voicing Fox, and about half the bosses in the game for that matter?
>>741803229I definitely think voice acting started getting generally worse after the PS3/360 gen. That was the peak of where most games had decent voice acting. After that it got very hit or miss and generally bad other than the rare few games with good voice acting.
>>741803474Capcom uses non union people for the modern Resident Evil games and most of them sound good.
>>741803080The soul leylines of the world have dried up as we enter an androgynous future
>>741803292thats my secret cap i do it for freeI kinda feel bad for millenials >>741786826their future is so bleak, they are clinging to their fading youth and the stuff they enjoyed back then, thinking it's the best, ultimate version because it comes from a time before they had to put on their big boy pants
>>741801820>>741802156OK I admit the wink is cute and the voice is nice.Saves Katt in the original>Beautiful! I could kiss you for that!to>Thanks, Falco could learn a thing or two from youI mean it's still flirting, just in a more divisive manor. Personally I prefer the original.
Hating this game is the equivalent to being a cocksucking turbo snoy You have no cultureI’m hyped as fuck and I can’t wait until tomorrow>but voices!>but ugly characters!YOU are worthlessThe game sounds good, looks good, and most importantly plays goodGet fucked you imbecilic snoy
>faggots who never owned a switch 2 telling you not to buy switch 2 gamelol, LMAO!
>>741803548I think it peaked at that point because that was the moment when vidya became more profitable than Hollywood. Up until then, it was still relatively affordable to hire professional voice actors, use licensed music, etc. Once everyone figured out how much bank games were making, they started demanding higher pay, residuals, etc.
>>741803934>my videogame rectangle is better than your videogame rectanglemodern day console war posting is so soulless man, nobody even tries to make jokes anymore it's just two retarded apes throwing shit at each other
>>741803934Why are you so angry about video games? You gain nothing from defending a company.
>>741803474They couldn't even be arsed to look beyond who they already had on their payroll to voice fucking MARIO. It's insane how allergic they are to invest in proper casting for their main series. Ironically, Metroid Prime 4 is probably their best showing since Kid Icarus Uprising in terms of professional sounding voicework. It's just that it was in service of horribly ill-conceived characters.
>>741799276I agree, It an improvement over what Fox has been for a while. Still not as good as the Melee design. I don't know why they refuse to give him a long snout.
>>741801910>>741802480>snoy nitpicking
I'll be having a blast tomorrow
They butchered the conductor
>>741800563He wasn't even trying. Felt like he was about to hit a grocery cart and not the supply depo.
>>741804168>>741804471GapedYou lost
>>741805617>nobody even tries to make jokes anymorethank you for proving my point ape-kun. don't forget to wash your hands before going for a banana
>>741803934Can you say with complete honesty that the game wouldn't be objectively better if they simply used the orginals voice clips
>>741805617sony and nintendo are both trash
Regarding the VO, Sarumarine Captain is acceptable. The rest of the cast leave too much do be desired in one category another.
Don’t care, still buying it.
>>741802480finger wag is still there
>>741806495>le snoy centristYou aren't fooling anyone, Eric.
>>741799276It's still inferior to the bell design, which is bad for its own reasons, but peaked in Zero, being much more improved over Command, which made most of its cast look ugly. The "actual fox looking creature" looks bad. They could have made good looking designs without uncanniness, while appealing to realism, while being rooted in the puppet inspired aesthetic.It's nice there are people who like the new art direction but I hope it will be contained to this entry and what define the series going forward. Mediocrity isn't something I will support.
>>741786826Is that fucking Runkachunk as Katt
>>741803080They simply don't care about english VAs because the japanese can't gauge how good they are anyways. Carte blanche to the american VA mafia to push their anime rejects.
>>741801142Exactly. It's just kind of weak all around. And just even compare basic shit like the tracks changing. In the original you have these couplings rocket out and physically move the track over, in the new one it just changes the lights.Like, c'mon.
