Zelda used to be a dark fantasy franchise and Nintendo still denies it.
>>741790528Fuck Nintendo.
That's not dark, that's just typical fantasy adventure.Only MM and TP tried being dark, everything else was normal fantasy atmosphere or full of whimsy.The dark stuff was the aberration and they simply went back to their normal.
>>741790702OOT was dark, too. It gets overshadowed by MM trying to be edgy and scary.
>>741790702t. someone who hasn't played Zelda 1 or LttP. You need to catch up on those years of schooling you missed, zoomer
>>741790528Meanwhile, in the actual game: jelly man doing jazz hands wriggles over to potato-shaped pink-haired elf and dies in a cartoonish cloud with a skull shape when said elf twirls his sparking sword
>>741790528Is that clayface from batman?
PLEEEEEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE NINTENDO PLEASE PANDER TO MY HIGHLY IDEALIZED VERSION OF ZELDA BASED ON MY OWN IMAGINATION AND CHERRYPICKED CONCEPT ART THAT 99.99% OF PLAYERS NEVER SAW>does it with twilight princessWTF THIS GAME SUCKS BUT MIDNA IS SEXY
>>741792071>PLEASE NINTENDO PLEASE PANDER TO MY>>741782445
>>741792181wow anon that specific bananza screencap with>click, clickthe better part of 200 tepid reposts in the archives sure showed me who's boss
>dark fantasy
Fans of childrens' media pretending that it's dark to show how ackshyually they're mature adults for liking it is such cringe shit.
>>741790528No it wasn't. You're fucking retarded.
>>741792314WHEN THEWHEN THE FANTASY IS DARK
kill all manchildren retardOP
>>741792343I only like oot and mm. the other zelda games are baby games.
>>741790528Yea nothing says dark fantasy than a sunny desert and a mud man trying to grab a twink wearing a skirt and panties.
>>741792071Where have I seen this bird before?
>>741790528OMG, my wife's boyfriend is letting me play my super serious and mature dark fantasy Zelda games after 9pm! LFG!!!
>>741792440rhythm heaven fever
>>741792470Hmm. No, I've never played that. It was definitely something else.
>>741790528>Zelda used to be a dark fantasy franchisewhen?
>aw sweet, a schizo thread!
>>741790528Link's squishable thighs...
>>741792538Zelda fans told themselves it was dark around the time of OoT and Majora's Mask and they bought into their own narrative so hard they violently deflected off of Wind Waker, heedless of that game being an artstyle very similar to Samurai Jack (which was also airing around the time of WW's reveal) because it was inspired by the same short about Susanoo fighting a fire god
>>741790528>look mai posted ot againNigger ass faggot retatd
>>741792181>these threads are just shitric and sealiontranny.Oh.Okay.Tyvm for being so open on that.-25million karma to ziony
>>741792618>NOOOO ZELDA WAS NEVER ACTUALLY DARK YOU'RE IMAGINING IT
>>741792904>posts an image from something that never happens in the game
Has anybody actually even died in any of the games? Like an on-screen death by virtue of an antagonist, where it's shown outright, and none of that no one's ever really gone type bullshit where they reincarnate or come back as a spirit or fucking stupid crap.I remember in Breath of the Wild they show Castle Town getting razed but you don't actually see anybody get killed, and all of the monster "attacks" in the game just knock people out. It's like the most embarrassing shit I've ever seen in my life. Meanwhile the Divine Beasts are treated as minor inconveniences that aren't even mandatory. What a thrill.Why can't villains be fucking villains?I guess Tears of the Kingdom improved upon that by (sort of) showing that dumb bitch of a queen get her back blown the fuck out. No, not the good kind of back-blowing. The literal kind. That shit was kekworthy. Shame Ganondorf does literally fucking nothing else. Fucking unreliable sandnigger, too busy LARPing as a teenage princess to do anything worthwhile.
The priest protecting Zelda in LTTP dies on-screen. Zant literally explodes and disintegrates.
>>741792904Is this even real, this looks like it's attempting to knock off DOOM or SMT Nocturne or something.
>>741792904>OoT remake won't have this exact artstyleI've lost interest
>>741792904Anon, saying that image is dark fantasy is like saying 80's He-Man is hardcore.
>>741793106>being frozen solid causes ice crystals to shred cell membranes
>>741793106It was a different time. When did Zelda become Paw Patrol?
>>741793391windwaker>b-but ganon gets stabbed in the face!!!!
Just had a thought cause of this threadahemSo, the warrior within amd the two thrones are super duper loosely like zelda 2 in that the villain is chasing the hero down the whole game and ultimately the hero has to destroy his dark double, lol loose hole to stretch at tho, but similarish-ish
>>741790528The game that art is for has link become a bunny.
Is LotR dark fantasy, because I wouldn't Zelda darker than that.
>>741793559>zelda 2 in that the villain is chasing the hero down the whole game?
>>741794178which would be fucking horrifying if it happened to you
>>741793559I'll stretch your loose hole.
>>741794581But it wasn't done in a body horror way. It was just a skin. A pink bunny was just a sprite change to show link is an underdog good boy.
>>741794879>just a skinYou couldn't use your weapons or equipment. It was obviously more than that.
>>741794581It would be horrifying to have an anvil dropped on me but we don't consider Loony Tunes dark fantasy.
>>741795034>He doesn't think this screenshot is Dark Fantasy
>>741790528It also used to be canonically Christian, but that too has been scrubbed.
>>741794369I wouldn't go so far as to say it's dark fantasy, but Sauron and the Gothic elements of LotR is clearly riding that line. I would use Diablo as a general guideline for describing "dark" fantasy, a sort of world where the emphasis is more on just exploring and surviving a seemingly endless, destitute, evil existence. That sort of setting/story where understanding and experiencing the nature of evil has more emphasis than fighting against it and establishing something better.LotR is more characterized more by the fight AGAINST the darker elements of life, than exploring and understanding it.
>>741792538LA it was always the coolest zelda for me because of how suspicious and uncertain every part of the world felt, which made sense after i learned the director of LA took inspiration directly from Twin Peaks in that "unwelcoming small town" regard. nobody is really trying to help you as much as they just want to help themslves.then the remake came out and turned it into the bright and cheery kiddie festival that is every other modern nintendo game and all that mystery vanished.
>>741794178Nintendo knew
>>741795521>LA>Dark
>>741790528hurr durr muh concept art is dark
>>741794369>>741795340My personal issue with the series is it still hasn't come close to the tone/themes of Lord of the Rings. Even Peter Pan (ironically) has darker subtext, themes, and moments than The Legend of Zelda, particularly more contemporary titles.You can't recognize light without the dark. Can't be a hero without a villain. No courage without fear. This is why a lot of the franchise feels, for lack of a better term, soulless. It never really feels like you're a hero, or that you're even saving anybody worthwhile, if you're saving anybody at all, Hyrule and its inhabitants are so pathetic and robotic, lacking all emotion and meaning. What a shame.
>zelda isn't dark!!!!!!majoras mask is dark as fuck what the fuck are you guys talking about
>>741790528I have Dark Zelda beggars fatigue...
>>741792618wind waker had some cool darker moments, like going into the underwater hyrule temple and seeing all the guards frozen in combat with the disjointed music
>>741795808and it was a major shift from the series. Thats like saying the prius proves toyota cant make rally cars
>>741792953The in-game events are actually more graphic and macabre
>>741795878>going into the underwater hyrule temple and seeing all the guards frozen in combattheres nothing dark about that at all
>>741795604it's darker than majora by a country mileMM is the Hot Topic of goth
Zelda was a Christian franchise until after LttP.
>>741792984He did actually kill most of the people in Hyrule off screen though. Just because the game doesn't show people being killed directly doesn't change that it happens narratively. Not everything needs to be edgy you know. Ganon has actually taken over Hyrule and wiped out most of the Hylians multiple times in fact.
>>741795974dark how?>WOAAAAAH IT WAS ALL A DREAM
>>741792393I have no horse in this race, but to be fair, that town DOES have the fucked-up otherworld variant too.
>>741795946you sound like a foid who's definition of "dark" has to involve rape or something
>>741795290Based purely on one piece of art made for a players in guide, for the game that outright establishes a non-christian deity pantheon, which would mean Christians in that world are basically misguided heretics/pagans.
>>741796073>y-youre a womanexcellent argument
The culprit is the ratings boards becoming more strict. You can see it in all children's media that's become more sanitized in recent years. BOTW has a post apocalyptic setting and you never see any violence against humans or find any human remains.
>>741790528>dark fantasy
>>741796126your only argument is literally "nu uh" i'm not reading your replies anymore
>>741796112Link is usually depicted with a cross on his shield at this time, which you could argue is just symbolism for him being like a knight.Link doing the sign of the cross in front of that desert temple tho is unmistakable.
>>741796235>its dark because the temple frozen in space and time has soldiers inside that were frozen in timewow, this shattered my whole worldview
The real sequel to Link to the Past for me was Demon's Souls.
>>741796641Who's this sexy lady?
>>741796016Showing a villain doing bad things isn't edgy. You're misconstruing general violence and portrayals of malevolence with a celebration of gore.For reference, in The Lord of the Rings, there are several portrayals of death, and not just of named characters. Several extras in every major battle are shown biting the dust, along with reaction shots of civilians (as well as soldiers) fearing for their lives and saddened by loss.Helps to establish tone and build up your antagonist when NPCs actually react like humans. "Calamity" and its aborted fetus of a Gerudo Chieftain are treated as an afterthought by the narrative and dialogue in their respective games. Nobody is afraid of them, more like a minor annoyance.>most of the peopleYeah, because the population of Hyrule is something like 200, including all of the species/races. Again, nobody seems to care, and somehow after 100 years the population is still <100.
>>741796269It's shinto/buddhist japs tossing things they've seen in knight movies to make it seem more European and medieval. If they wanted it to be a Christian world they wouldn't have engaged in the blasphemy of introducing other creator gods.
>>741796026He was reading word up magazine
