Why is he so lame in ninja gaiden 3 and 4?
>>741793710He became a better man.
>>741793710hes cool in ng4 but they suck his dick too much
perhaps the tighter and tighter gimp suits have slowly vaporized his testicles, leaving him anemic by then
>>741793710He's plenty fun in 3
Itagaki's the only one who understood this franchise.
>>741793710RE>2=4>1
>>741794607if that was true he wouldn't have turn 2 in a press y to awesome button masher where UT is stronger and more spammable and always includes a 6+ second fully invincible animation
>>741793710once you reach maximum cool, you can only go back down
>>741794724Itagaki was pretty vocal about how shitty and unfinished 2 was
>>741794607Oatmeal face was a hack anyways
>>741795058>has a falling out over pay>leaves company>never makes another good game again>dies Truly a visionary
I don’t get the love /v/ has for 3 that game is extremely boring to me. Now I must leave as /v/ is insanely on the dick of that game more than any other in the series and i don’t have time for it today.
>>741795198It's fun, especially the trials. Combat is the best
He is kind of lame in vanilla 3 but I think 3RE is his best iteration. He still has the curse but treats it as a nuisance and powers through everything. Parries the sword of a skyscraper sized literal god. Turns into a fucking fire dragon as his final ninpo. Saves the day and ninja jumps away into the sunrise in triumph. Should have kept it there instead of whatever the fuck 4 did to him.
>>741793710Itagaki left
>>741793710>Lame in 3???Even when he had supercancer on his arm, he was still willing to fight until the bitter end. That's badass. Him going to hill of swords of 2 to retrieve Genshin's sword because shit was hitting the fan was kino AF. >>741794694Swap 2 and 1 and we are good.
>>7417957933RE is filled with kino moments.>Getting the BotA>fighting with Momiji>jumping from one fighter jet onto another>meeting Muramasa one last time>killing masketta man only for him to reveal it was part of his plan to remove the curse>parrying the goddess so fucking hard the BotA gets destroyed>True Inferno
>>741796194>QTE to not die>kino mommentsyou love marvel movies dont you
m-Master Ryu...
>>741796289only one of those is a QTE and it's just a block input. way to out yourself loser
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>>741796698>implying i did read his whole postretard
>>741794258>they suck his dick too muchBy making him side with evil fascists, be unable to defeat the final boss, give him no new weapons, only 3 levels, have him get beaten in a boss fight and have all of his all boss fights be undone.
>>741795793>>741796194I’m going to replay 3 sometime this week. I just did not like it at all razors edge anyway. Ryu was taking his mask off and the bosses were lame to me. I think some of the sections you fight regular enemies were ok fun but man I just was not into it.
>>741797021getting filtered by reading is totally something to be proud of
Should I emulate NG Black on Xemu or just buy the Sigma collection on sale? Is it really that much better?
>>741797198>Ryu was taking his mask offbeen doing it since 1996. he's Ryu Hayabusa not Master Chief
>>741797261Black. I don’t like black 2 that much but it’s much better than just regular sigma.
>>741797261Black is only better in a couple of ways like not having some annoying ass enemy encounters (motorbike dudes) and having some weapons placed in nicer spots (like the Lunar). Really the two versions are extremely similar apart from Rachel's segments. I would make the visuals the deciding factor, Sigma is a bit more vibrant and filled with colour compared to Black. I advise looking at some comparisons and figuring out which one you think looks nicer aesthetically.
didnt know this thread would get the re apologists crawling out of the woodworks
>>741797198>Ryu was taking his mask offHayabusa was showing off his face in default costumes before NG even released.
>>741796194I don't even care for the story but I appreciate how short it is since trials are great + chicks actually have extensive movesets compared to sig2 for chapter challenge
>>741797261Do you want adventure with your hack n slash? If yes black, if no just get sigma.
Ryu has hit every piece of ass in this series
>>741794802Not an excuse. If he understood NG then the game wouldn't have ended up at a terrible baseline because of stuff he added.
>>741797095that has nothing with him not being cool and they objectively jerk him off with non-stop praise and acting as if he's a literal god. they do cuck him with the final boss stuff but that's less to do with ryu being worse and more them forcing their protagonist
>>741795198At the time it came out Ninja Gaiden fans (myself included) despised 3 for>steel on bone>one weapon/ninpo>no dismembermentI imagine if it'd been a Nioh thing with a completely new series, people wouldn't have cared. But Ninja Gaiden was very much perceived as needing to play like Black/Sigma/2/S2, and needing multiple weapons/ninpo to accomodate different playstyles.Not sure how many of these polarizing aspects 3RE fixed but I'm assuming any love /v/ has for that game comes from that version.Consider this as well. The previous two games have a split fanbase, with some people liking the Itagaki games, some the Hayashi games. 3 doesn't really have that issue because RE is seen as sheer improvement by literally everyone who played both of them.
>>741798075NG2 is the best game ever made. You're high.
>>741793710>mentioning and disrespecting 3You fucked up op. Disrespecting 3 on here is like saying avatar is bad on /co/
>>741797095>evil fascists,oxymoron
>>741797261My main complaint against Sigma is that going from Ryu to Rachel feels very ungainly since she moves and fights different. If they'd set her missions up as a side thing or a Vergil style extra, it'd be a lot less janky to play.
>>741797961>ugly asian with ridiculous hairstyle >but every girl is secretly into him!!He's such a lame self insert lmao
>>741797261LISTEN HERE VERY CAREFULLYSigma 1 is an upgrade to NGB. Objectively. People might attempt to argue otherwise but trust me sigma is better. There are no real upsides to NGB other than pointless things like exclusive costumes and some minor aesthetic changes (sigma adds a bunch of bloom that kind of looks bad but there are mods to fix it). Trust me, if you are new to NG and you play black there's a good chance you will either quit or just in general become incredibly frustrated with certain parts of the game where you are required to use first person aiming or have to do first person swimming levels which are MASSIVELY improved in sigma. Oh yeah and sigma has some extra levels where you play as another character that people don't like but the levels are super short soNow NG2? There's good reason to emulate it. The summary is that NG2 is a shift from NG1 where they heavily increase the amount of enemies you fight at once while trying to balance it by enemies dealing less damage and generally having less health + being able to delimb enemies faster and more consistently. Sigma 2 is somewhat more in line with NG1 where there are few enemies with more health that deal more damage. a lot of NG2s systems make more sense in the OG version, while Sigma 2 mostly feels like an even easier version of NG1 though there is technically new content in sigma 2. NG3RE is the definitive edition, there is no dispute.
>>741798728He's more Dragon than Asian
>>741798762Sigma's remixed music fucking sucks. And the removal of the little puzzles is also a bad change, but not as egregious as NGS2.There's a good argument against emulating Black though, in that it's not exactly perfect on Xemu. There are some glitchy visuals and you're going to have unavoidable shader stutter.Best bet to play NG1 right now without an Xbox is to play Sigma with mods to make it more like NGB.
>high praises for 3 and hating on 2
>>741797836>adventureI keep hearing people say this about Black vs Sigma, but what does it even mean? Did they completely replace the stages in Sigma with something linear?
>>741799110>Sigma's remixed music fucking sucks.Mods fix it. Non-issue like the crappy bloom>And the removal of the little puzzles is also a bad changeNo, the "removal of puzzles" is incredibly overstated change. There are exactly 4 "puzzles" removed from the game and none of them are particularly special or sorely missed aand that's generously including one where you have to backtrack to get an invite to the bar to progress. It's just a complete parroted complaint as if it's the biggest deal in the world, while many puzzle and platforming segments remain untouched. >in that it's not exactly perfect on Xemu. There are some glitchy visuals and you're going to have unavoidable shader stutter.tbf I think most of that has been fixed by now.
Sigma and black suck for these reasons. In a story playthrough neither gives you the option to turn off the missions you have to play with the girls. The only one of them I find fun to play is momiji
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>>741799496Oh shit I didn’t know you guys were talking about og ninja gaiden 1. I think I kinda prefer sigma 1 to black desu
>>741799440There's a bit more than that, and I personally did like the sections with less combat because they were good for the pacing. They went way too far with trying to speed the game up in later releases though with especially NG3RE being a constant rape gauntlet.And I tried NGB a couple months ago on Xemu and the water still looked fucked but I'll be happy if it's fixed now.
>>741799202NG2 is a step backwards for the series rather than a step forward while NG3 (or at 3RE) genuinely tried to push the series forward. The biggest complaint a lot of people have about NG, at least in modern day, is that ET and UT trivialize the game and this is in regards to NG1. The player is able to charge them while enemies run at you and you can easily chain together UTs if you kill at least two enemies but NG1 doesn't typically have that many enemies in an encounter so this is meaningfully difficult to do sometimes.Rather than address these issues....NG2 heavily buffed UT as now you can charge with hyper armor vs projectiles, the animations are all longer giving you more of a chance of dealing damage to multiple enemies, the majority of encounters have enemies run at you from down the hall (which makes charging beforehand easy and consistent), and most importantly the encounter design floods the screen with enemies which makes UT much more tempting to use and much more consistently netting you multiple kills to chain multiple UTs together. If this wasn't enough, NG2 then adds the delimb mechanic which is just a free invincible instakill that opens up randomly and at the surface this is literally just press button to awesome but on the "deeper" end it's used as a way to cheese encounters by having delimbed enemies crawl on the floor so you face less enemies at once. NG2 also has very high delimb rates with some moves that have a near 100% chance to delimb so you can literally just spam those, tho i'll admit that this likely would've been fixed if the game had more time to cook.These changes only make NG easier, cheesier, and mashy friendly. Truly living up to the "hack n slash" title. Obviously, a lot of people love NG2. They are fooled by the EPIC animations and cutting down hordes of enemies like a fucking musou while pretending the game is "da hardest game EVAR!!!!"
>>741800231You at least first had to kill enemies and use movement and spacing to chain UT's. 3 gives you hyper armor and Ryu is literally teleporting around the arena from enemy to enemy.
>>741800495>and use movement and spacing to chain UT'sshon windrun into windpath into OL UT is not skillful in any iteration of NG and like I said you can literally charge up UT before most encounters because enemies just run at you from a mile away before they can effectively attack you. You can use your cherrypicked video but try doing that against the majority of encounters in 3RE then go look up almost literally any NG2 MN run and watch them start 90% of encounters with charge UT and then either chain UT or spam high delimb moves into UT
>>741800987>you can literally charge up UT before most encountersNo you can not. Literally the first encounter in the game has dozens of spider ninja spamming incendiary shuriken's. You can not just stand still and hold one button
>>741800231It’s hard af to spam ut’s in 2 at times because the bomb ninjas and flying fiends who shoot out fireballs will knock you tf out of it almost instantly if you don’t kill enemies for essence first.
>>741799052Doesn't change anything. He's still ugly af.
>>741802708He's hot
>>741802935Can you post an example? Every man is hot when you obscure 95% of their face
Ryu hayabusa looks extremely fucking gay. He needs to keep the mask on at all times like judge dredd
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to appreciate Ninja Gaiden. The gameplay is so complex, you’d need a firm understanding of quantum physics just to parse the hitboxes. The hitboxes operate on a subatomic level and the enemy AI patterns are essentially chaotic systems governed by strange attractors. Ryu’s i-frames function like quantum tunneling events, letting him phase through damage in ways that defy classical mechanics. I’m currently developing a unified field theory that explains the Essence economy. But of course, that’s only for those who’ve cleared Path of the Master Ninja without taking Planck-scale damage.
>>741803105>>741803176>looks extremely fucking gay. He needs to keep the mask on>Every man is hot when you obscure 95% of their face>this guy's face is gay and ugly otherwise his body is hot how do I break this to you...
>>741803105what do you think now
>>7418041678pack
>>741803873I am gay. That's how I can say with certainty that Ryu is ugly.Because even with a body like this >>741804167 his face is so fucking ass it completely turns me off.
>>741804343dude you're fucking gay
>>741799340most of the actual platforming, exploration and "puzzles" have been dumbed down or completely removed. thats basically all it is.
Master ninja difficulty isn’t fun
>>741804680>most of the actual platforming, exploration and "puzzles"This sounds like a good thing though?The platforming in NG sucked.
>>741804737It's not supposed to be fun. It's supposed to filter 99% of gamers.
Here's a better question:How the fuck does Ninja Gaiden handle air combat
>>741805016like i said, sigma is right there
>>741793710The game is unironically too hard... I got stuck in the cargo ship fight against what felt like unlimited soldiers and then the stupid fat guy on the roof sucked too
>>741804737Yes it is.
>>741804680Good. The adventure aspects in 1 are boring and i don't care for them on replays. I'm more bothered by toning down of difficulty like being able to counter berserkers to death in sig.
You need an exceptionally deep grasp of advanced mathematics and theoretical physics to truly understand Ryu’s i-frames in Ninja Gaiden. Casual players think he’s “dodging,” but in reality his state vector is evolving through a high-dimensional Hilbert Space where incoming attacks exist only as probability amplitudes. During a perfectly timed wind path, Ryu’s wavefunction briefly decoheres from the enemy’s damage operator, projecting him into an orthogonal basis state inaccessible to ordinary causality. The so-called “i-frame window” is actually a transient eigenstate of invulnerability predicted by a little-known extension of Quantum Mechanics, allowing him to tunnel through swords, explosions, and several metric tons of demon biomass without interaction.
>>741793710He's pretty cool in both I think. I recently replayed all 4 mainline games and came to the conclusion I love the series. So much I installed resolve and am figuring out how to make edits for my friends
>>741806184What the fuck is this
>>741797261Whatever gives you less of a hassle. If you can into Xemu, go for it. If not, Master Collection is a decent compromise. I personally find Rachel to be somewhat fun, specially in survival and trials, but her levels suck. Other than that, it really boils down to personal preference. That said, 2/3 for MC isn't a bad deal for the master collection. And you can always mod Sigma 2 to be closer to vanilla.
>>741797261Black is pretty pain free on Xemu, these days even NG2 is somewhat easy to set up on Xenia. My first playthroughs were Master Collection (with the 2 black mod for sigma 2). I think I prefer the convenience of that but that NG2 vanilla survival missions are a lot more fun than any side content in Sigma 2. Master Collection on sale is worth it alone for Razors Edge imo
What are the odds 4 will go for a 50% off at tomorrow's sale?
>>741808095>fuck this dinosaur, or else
>>741805225It generally doesn't. You have a launcher and a handful of air strings, but most of your combat is on the ground. Anything that flies is either taken down by arrows or by bringing it to the ground. I have not played 4, but seeing is a platinum game, i'm sure you can stay in the air forever.
>>741808217>I have not played 4, but seeing is a platinum game, i'm sure you can stay in the air forever.4 gives you a ton of options to stay in the air and extend combos by cancelling strings and cycling weapons while simultaneously allowing shooters to easily hit you mid air + enemies you're juggling can now block strings mid air.
>>741808095Buy it full price you ugly broke BITCH support these games
>>741808217Soooo....How would I have to handle airborne enemies if I wanted NGB-ish combat?
>>741798762I played Sigma and NGB back to back and this nigger is wrong. They're both good but Black has a deliberately chill pace between action segments that adds to its adventure/action appeal. Sigma cuts out almost all downtime while making it more forgiving. Picrel being replaced with an instant chapter change into the obnoxious motorcycle enemies instead of you being able to save the game and explore the cool bar area at your leisure is exactly the kind of shit that makes Sigma inferior. Porting NG2 style water running and water enemies into NGB was a poor solution as well. And yes Rachel sucks.You can safely disregard this nigger as a poser.
>>741808935>And yes Rachel sucks.Playing as her sucks in both Sigmas. I'm glad they excluded her from RE
>>741795198It's just contrarians. 3 is the most unpopular entry so of course retards are going to hype it up and say it's secretly the best and just misunderstood.
>>741795198>>741809242Its crazy too because its really a mediocre game over all. Do 3fags have a defense for the bosses? They were the worst in the series. Even the mirror match was inferior to the regular ass enemy from NGB's harder difficulties. Or what about that lame section where you're walking around his dumb village talking to npcs? Felt like I was playing NG made by westerners.
>>741808095it was already on sale like a week or two ago
>>741809818I didn't care for any of that but the combat and trials are best in the series. Adventure elements in 1 suck and 3/4 of the 2 campaign are a mess. Bosses are shit in all 3.
>>741808935>Sigma cuts out almost all downtime while making it more forgiving.you're talking out of your ass dude. I've literally run through and compared both games bit by bit. Only 4 puzzles removed and they cut down the water level (which was not fun!) down by a lot. Everything else remains, it's not as if they cut a fuck ton of content let alone "important" content. The game still has puzzles and exploration, literally only 4 were removed. Literally just fucking 4. And hey, look at that! you posted one of those "puzzles" where you can't go into the bar immediately so you....go back from where you came and hit muramasa's which is right there then immediately go back to the entrance. This is like at most a minute of extra gameplay with no battles or challenges inbetween. You just backtrack, then backtrack again. >Porting NG2 style water running and water enemies into NGB was a poor solution as well. duhh because???? fucking retard. The water running has HORRIBLE controls in NGB. You are seriously dickriding NGB for no real discernible reason if you are seriously going as low to as to try and defend the water running in the OG. No one would EVER defend that but here you are.
>>741810168>best combat>steel on boneOpinion discarded.
>>741810423>UT chains his way through 2 gamesDiscarded
>>741810416you are trash and your opinion is trash. stop shitting up ng threads like the nigger that you are
>>741810698>No counterpointaww, baby got called out for his bullshit and is gonna cry? go choke on itagakis wrinkled, decayed dick, faggot. Sigma is an objective upgrade of black
>>741810870holy shit an actual retard. come back when youve played the games
>>741810416I like that you didn't mention the real problem with the bar in Sigma which is that it is replaced with a hardcut into the shitty new motorcycle enemies. Its simply poor design. Not to mention that the bouncer was funny as hell. You sound adhd complaining about walking back one street.This is part of the greater problem with pacing that Sigma has that Rachel also contributes to by snatching you out of your exploration of the city for several shitty chapters as a different character with different inventory. This ironically works better in the overall shitty NG3RE since it is level based and has no inventory.>buhhh buh water running??My point was its a poor solution to Black's water section which is unfun in both versions so I disagree that it is an OBJECTIVE improvement. Otherwise the water running comes up what, once? twice? Its not hard enough to bitchfit about this hard.The other anon is right though.
>>741794694Based
>>741809818It was made FOR westerners (and casuals) so that's pretty close.
>>741811465>and casualsCan't be. It ended up filtering the 2 cultists
>>741811267>which is that it is replaced with a hardcutYou're complaining about the most minor of details and trying to use it as a way to denounce the sigma version when it is something that does not matter for the majority of people. You're trying your hardest to nitpick. >for several shitty chapters as a different character with different inventory.Her levels are neither difficult nor long. It's really not a big deal. I would prefer they didn't exist but I also don't think it's a serious detriment either. I much prefer having to play as rachel for like 2.5 chapters than having to deal with the awful water level or having to rely on first person aiming for the army sections. >which is unfun in both versionsIt's a poor solution because...it controls better? are you retarded? at least you have some fights which on water, with half decent controls, actually makes for a fun and unique setpiece than slowly wading through water tunnels to find pieces for a shitty puzzle. > Otherwise the water running comes up what, once? twice?nig there's an entire level where half wants you to use awkward water running and the other half is swimming. It matters less in Sigma 1 cuz they cut down on the level a lot and add in more battles but it matters more in NGB because they force you to spend more time on it.I like the adventure elements in NG1 but i'm not going to pretend that every single aspect of it was fun or interesting. Sigma is an obvious improvement to everyone who doesn't have their brain rotted by believing itagaki is god and that anything that isn't made by him is automatically worse.
>>741812150Yup, definitely an adhd brainrot retard. Whats next, ng3 is actually the best one?
>>741812518See >>741810870
Guy-den or gay-den?
>>741813085fag-got
>>741812150Bouncer-kun and motorcycle enemies is a "nitpick" but Rachel sections are "not a big deal"? Well the former was more enjoyable in Black and the latter made Sigma less fun. These were a big enough deal for me that I had a vastly better time with NGB despite playing Sigma right before.>durrr water??The webm you posted didn't make that area more fun. Suddenly I had to engage with these copy and pasted NG2 enemies instead of effortlessly swimming past the shark fucks and moving on. I'm changing my opinion from "both bad" to "Sigma worse".>an entire level where half wants you to use awkward water running and the other half is swimmingI think you're actually misremembering/exaggerating. I'm pretty sure that area doesn't require water running more than once at most. In fact the only time I remember it mattering is that river in the starting village. Aiming also isn't that bad. Jump shooting is cool but most sections that Black requires aiming for can be handled better with skill because its quick and responsive enough.
Why did they never make muramasa playable? Also you guys arguing when 4 has the best gameplay because yakumo is the most fun in the series and Ben tho his default costume a shit
>>741813613>4 has the best gameplayIt's fine but hardly the best
>>741813613Sorry bud but 4 is a platinum game first and foremost so it is compared to and inferior to Transformers Devastation by default.
>>741813613yakumo isn't even good by platinum standards, let alone NGs
>>741813852If they had a deception story mode it’d be my goat. Starscream jet combos would’ve been the best
>>741812678see >>741812518
>>741813760>>741813852>>741813927Did you guys use the hammer or did you miss it? Go back and play you guys seem to have played with your eyes closed, it’s ok.
I always wanted to know? Why did they get rid of the big work boss from og ninja gaiden 2? Don’t get me wrong he was a faggot of a boss
>>741814925*worm boss
>>741814835Hammer was fine as was the blood gauge gimmick for it to get an enhanced move with correct timing. I beat the game + dlc on MN as well as the shitty trials (worst in the series). It's very fun but some of the design decisions from platinum are straight up garbage
>>741815112What did you think of Ryu in 4? His routes to izuna drop are peak in 4 imo
>>741793710>Played ninja gaiden black>mogged the horse bossThis games easy.And fub
>>741802708>>741803105Ryu's look appeals to women quite a lot. Strong and muscular build but very clean and youthful, with a wise and disciplined look to him. It is an idealized look that asian women value.
>>741820786He looks like a pretty dyke
