Is there a SINGLE good souls-like game that wasn't made by Fromsoft?
yes, lies of p. and also bloodborne is a shit mediocre game that was propped up by its exclusivity
>>741798084Lies of PLords of the Fallen (2023)Some people like Nioh and Wuchang. Honorable mention to Fly Knight, even though it's more of a King's Field game and shamelessly derivative.
>>741798136lies of p was "meh" at best.
>>741798084im going to get called a retard for this but Lords of the Fallen (circa 2025) was more fun for me than any souls game has been recently. it felt like an alternate reality where souls games iterated on DS2 instead of wrapping in concepts from bloodborne.
>>741798084Nioh 2 is great, dark souls meets diablo. Lies of p seems great but i cant get over the fact that the parry timing is different than Sekiro.
Hi.I'd also say Hellpoint is almost there, but it genuinely lacks the scope and budget to even try to go toe to toe. And the Chinese ones will have bonkers level design, but no interconnectivity, and then ultra shit boss fight mechanics. >>741798245Fuck off ice skater
The Surge has some interesting mechanics.
>>741798084Nioh is good and feels unique enough to not be derivative because of the combat. AI Limit is my favourite anime Souls, and actually focuses a lot on exploration like Demon's Souls and Dark Souls. I still haven't seen a single Soulslike with invasions/coop mechanics on par with any of From's own titles.
The Surge 1 & 2Lies of PLords of the Fallen 2023All of these are better than ER & DS3
>>741798659ok yeah actually the surge was fucking fun. thanks for reminding me of those games anon.
>>741798136Bloodborne is a good polished game equal in most ways to Dark Souls III, with only a handful of bad ideas.
the crab one (sold as soulslike but its more of a 3d metroidvania. movement is great) and nioh 1 were the only ones i really enjoyed.
Doll's Nest Lie of P Code Vein Nioh I enjoyed those
loved Last Hero of Nostalgaia
>>741798245LotF2 (1*) [* - 2023] feels close to Demon's Souls than DS1 / DS2 for me. They tried to do the "interconnected world" thing, but it basically got aborted by retarded playtesters and the design was still different from DS1's (imagine a DS1 where Valley of the Drakes and Darkroot Basin basically just existed to connect you to Firelink Shrine).But it felt good to play through a Soulslike with fundamentally solid, challenging level design. Manse of the Hallowed Brothers is up there with some of the better FromSoft levels. Not the best, but still.
Salt and Sanctuary.
>>741798084I'd recommend No Rest for the Wicked but the game is getting overhauled in October on its official release to basically remove the souls-like leveling system for some class based system. Otherwise its souls but isometric A-RPG style. Ignore the DEI sloppa "diversity" approach to character designs the writing is so good you'll forget about it.
>>741798084Last Hero of Nostalgaia is the best one I've played. All of the others miss essential things about combat, level design, and difficulty and end up pretty eh. Nostalgaia itself isn't great, but it's better than any other I've played because on a fundamental level they "get" it, and awakening weapons is an interesting system. Moreso in concept than actual execution, but credit where it's due
>>741798136Lies of P is ass but you're right about Bloodborne.
>>741799381It didnt feel very DEI to me, it had a unique artstyle though for sure. Also i dont remember the story being anything special. Good game though, ill probably run through it again soon.
>>741799223>>741798293Salt and Sanctuary isn't great. I couldn't finish it.There is a very particular way you can do 2-d souls and short little games like Momodora do it far better than S&S at capturing this feel while realizing the game is a 2-d platformer.The Boss fights in Salt and Sanctuary are basically all big, mostly stationary monters with big sweeping hit box blocks manifesting over aoe attacks. Everything is a dodge roll through a hit box and while roll-slopping through a 3D game includes factors like end-roll placement, S&S it does not. Basically what works in 3d doesn't work well in 2d. Shit like the three faced red clay prince boss fight is literally "half the screen is a hit box, roll through me!" and it was just so boring at a certain point.Momodora on the other hand made the character feel like a souls character in 2d but kept the boss fights feeling way more like it was aware it was 2d games. plenty of projectiles and attacks you couldn't just roll through. Rolling felt more like a distance gainer than an essential I-frame. If you're making 2-d souls your dodge should be more about space and less about I-frames.
>>741800340>red clay prince bossThere is a wizard dragon taking up 2(3 of the screen a bit laterLmao
>>7418003402d isnt soulslike
>>741799702>It didn't feel very DEI to me. It does that thing that DND does where you have races but then within those races are "pedigrees" resembling races of humans.Sacra is loaded with random negro characters with white man haircuts and British accents. There are a few that look Asian as well. If a game is going to do this, they need to make it like TeS where there is some explanation for the "multiculturalism" (I.E an imperial trade hub) and to define the different races of men. Instead it's basically three races but you can't tell them apart because some Dasha are negro, some main landers are Asian. Very much "Your nation is your people" coded, incredibly cringe.That aside, while I never beat it anticipating the overhaul, it wasn't the primary plot of the game but the character writing was some of the best I've seen in a while. A lot of great "sayings" and word play really sell the world to you.
>>741798260I would enjoy Nioh more if it wasn't just japs jerking off their own history. You're just baring witness to the warring states period through the lens that the war is causing the dead to become demons via magic stones and somebody has to clean it up.The latter somehow doesn't feel relevant despite being the main thing you're doing all game, because it's more about educating you about how cool Nobunaga was or some shit
>>741798084Salt and SanctuaryNioh 1 and 2.
>>741798136Bloodborne is a masterpiece that will be talked about for decades to comeLies of Piss is already barely remembered
>>741800643what does this mean?
>>741798084NioH 2 and Lies of P shit on From so hard it's actually embarrassing. Modern From output isn't anywhere near the quality of DaS1. They continue on the quintessential "action games for retards" developer.>>741798084
>>741798084>Is there a SINGLE good soulsNo.
>>741802098Lies of P is koreaslop pcbang trash.
>>741798084>>741798136>>741798230>>741798659LAST HERO OF NOSTALGAIA!!! DONT FORGET LAST HERO OF NOSTALGAIA!!!
>>741798084Are there good ones? Yeah, I guess. People seem to like them. Unfortunately, none of them have the sauce that Fromsoft has. Even DS2 has more flavor in it than any of the games propped up itt
>>741802305never played it looks like shit>satirical>mixed reviews
>>741799212>>741799405BASED BASED FUCKING BASEDDD
>>741798084Nioh 2 and Stellar Blade, from what I've played.If 2D ones count, then Ender Lilies and Ender Magnolia, I guess.
>>741798230This>>741798084fool
I WAS BORN IN A PRISON
>>741802363IIRC the mixed reviews are due to an issue with one of the DLC bosses that has a tendency to glitch out in its final phase, making it unbeatable unless you kill yourself and try again which sucks even more due to the lame phases before it.
>>741803512never happened to me though...
>>741803654We can't all be as handsome and lucky as you
>>741798084Lies of P is the best exampleAI Limit I personally loved. Good level design, cool mechanics and weapons and combat, bosses were a lil too easyAnother Crabs Treasure, cool hybrid of soulsy combat and 3D Platforming. A little too easy to get overpowered but soulful, surprisingly good writing at points, and the early/midgame at least feels well balanced.There's also Khazan which I only played the demo of, seemed goodNine Sols if you want to stray even further. It's more of a 2D seki-like than anything
>>741798556I really tried multiple times to get into Nioh. I think I just hate the format and loot system and skill tree shit. I can't do it.
>>741803796For me, it was the terrible level design
>>741803743How does AI limit compare to Code Vein?
>>741798084Asterigos was pretty good for the most part. The only downside was that you could have multiple save files and just save anywhere nerfing the difficulty a lot. Plus, the souls system is a lot less unified since killing enemies just gives you currency like the SOuls games, but that currency isn't used to increase your stats like in the Souls games so there's less thought put into whether you should level up with all the souls you have or buy necessary items or something like that.But I like stories set with Greek myth or Greek culture in mind and the game was fun, the story was nice and the MC was a cute ginger chick so 7/10.Also like someone stated before, Stellar Blade even though that one felt more like Sekiro than anything.
>>741804259Forgot the video of Hilda, the MC
>>741798084Theres not a single good soulslike game, period.
>>741802363And as for the satire part, the dev genuinely doesn't understand the difference between satire and parody/referential humor.As said before, the game is more in the vein of Abobo's Big Adventure where you fuck shit up from countless other games with some amusing (and sometimes surprisingly elaborate) details and references here and there but also a few Earthworm Jim-esque lolsorandumb parts that don't really hit.
Im working on it give me another 6 months
>>741798230thisalso >Another Crab's Treasure>Wukong>Khazan
>>741801367I got filtered from Nioh 2 'cuz it wouldn't let me remap controls the way I wanted, and I never felt like buying it again on Steam to drop kick it with steam input.
>>741804517You made this? Looks very reminiscent of Dark Souls 1, specifically firelink shrine. Looks neat.
I am a big fan of the original Mortal Shell. Very short game, but quite fun to learn even if the balance is fucked (goes from very very hard to absurdly easy) also has the best filter I've ever seen with Fallgrim. Utter labyrinth of a first area with very few actually distinct landmarks, takes a whole playthrough to really learn it
>>741804120They aren't really similar at all. I guess they both have edgy anime aesthetics, thats it. AI Limit is way better. Code Vein was fun but its bamcoslop
>>741805079Sounds like a bad game
>>741803727Im sorry for being so awesome guys... maybe one day everyone will be awesome like me...
>>741805079I played it a bit before and had fun, should finish it
>>741798084Lies of PSifu
>>741804517Gimme a name to keep track of anon I'm interested
is it that hard to make a interconnected world?
>>741798084Hellpoint is low budget jank but has really good level-designThe Surge 1 and Lord of the Fallen 2 are decentNioh, Code Vein and Lies of P are mid
>>741804517Looks like unreal engine bullshit
>>741804758Nioh 1 had some janky ass remapping too but that game was older so kinda made sense
>>741798230>wuchangmy nigga. Wuchang was fantastic. and the mc is peak sex appeal. I had a chub almost everytime I was playing it
>>741798084Wuchang is pretty goodKhazan is good for boss fights, but more of a Nioh-like and very mediocre levels IMOWukong is bordering on an actual Soulslike kind of like Sekiro, it's probably my favourite but your opinion may differ, it plays like its own thing a little.
>>741807458Beast Blade.
>>741798084>Is there a SINGLE good souls-like gameNo.
>>741808826Did you expect a single person to also code his own engine on top of making an entire 3D game?
>>741802323Jank flavor?
