your rebuttal?
>>741801716
>>741801716you = fag
>>741801716Werks on my machine.
>>741801716imagine putting tidy cables ahead of performance.you're clearly a woman
>>741801716Yeah, Use a Gaming Laptop with a hdmi cable and a usb wireless xbox dongle. Costs about the same and is a hell of a lot more portable.
Why is the PC in the living room?
I made a mini PC using the Midori 5L, 5070, and a 9600x w/ 32gb ddr5. It werks and performs better than the steam machine does.
>>741801816Does it have linux or do I have to install that myself?
>I MUST PLAY IN THE LOVING ROOMwhy doe?
>>741801716I just use my 'eck and 'emote play
>>741801923>for windows 10Bricked
>>741801993>THE LOVING ROOMAka the BEDROOM
>>741801716>mfw I’m a ps5 owner and even I find this pic completely retarded
https://4chan.org/advertise
>>741801978>linuxWhy do you want to castrate yourself?
>>741801716This retard is too young to know about TV setups before streaming.
>>741802021Hey. Used it in my windows 11 laptop and it worked fine. Not that I think Windows 11 is good mind you, it's why my desktop that i'm currently posting on is still on 10.
>>741801716i already got a steam deck perma docked that i use moonlight to stream my pc onto my tv
>>741801716There was a rebuttal posted in the twitter thread that pic was cropped from, OP. If you were honest, you would have posted that too.
>>741801978ships with win11you can install steamOS on it if you want
>>741801716my wires go through the wall
>>741801716I use 3 tvs
>>741801716i use zip ties and run the chords behind a couple pieces of furniture to my television, they go up through a hole in the cabinet under the table my tv sits on>>741801993its just fun to play on a big screen standing up
>>741801716I dont get it, is steam machine wireless or something?
>>741801716I don't even have a TV
>>741802272>I dont get it, is steam machine wireless or something?It's a 6 inch cube>>741801816No HDMI cec nice try though
>>741801816>USB C
>>741801716What is this image trying to convey
>>741802379machine's cec implementation doesn't even work properly, a review pointed out multiple issues where it would not wake from sleep & resume properly, resulting in poor performance until you reboot the system anyway>>741802406retard the steam machine has a USB-C port as well
>>741801716ironically I would just use steam to stream the game to the TV. streaming over LAN has basically no latency.
>>741801816Are you really gonna play video games on a Radeon 780M? The Steam Machine looks like a high performance gaming PC in comparison.
>>741802541its performance is literally on par with the steam machine, that's how dire the steam machine's performance actually is.
>>741801716Why even show 2 controllers, no PC games are even designed around a controller in the first place, much less split screen coop.Hell, none of the games have UI's that scale to a large 4k tv.
>>741802513Steam Machine alao has HDMI and DisplayPort, fuck off.
>>741801716Gaming above 30fps
I have a living room, but I decided to use it as a garage. My couch has a motorcycle on it.
>>741802575It is not, you're actually delusional. Not only are the technical specifications of that chip available online so you could have looked it up, but so are benchmarks. What the fuck is wrong with you? You can't seriously be this lazy.
Is the steamcube more powerful than this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-xYtqWg9V8
>>741802636so does this.
>>741802636>HDMI 2.0>displayport which no tv's havelol
>>741801716Cable management.
>>741801716Let em have it, gatekeep PC harder
>>741802636Why did you think that doesnt?
The poorfag's determination to be a console cuck slave is fascinating.
BEHOLD!The Steam Machine killer>frequently 1200 bucks>massively better spec>smaller footprint>more upgradeable>longer warranty
I have a legion go 2 and egpus, one besides my bed and one in the tv room. I have the grown up switch and it works flawlessly.
>>741803014valve bros....what do we do about this one???
>>741803085I don't think anyone who wants a "steam box" for their TV is gonna care about that one because it's a brick on SteamOS.
>>741802379>It's a 6 inch cubehow does that affect the amount of cables required?
>>741803153not for long.SteamOS is adding official driver support for nvidia soon
>>741803213Don't count on it. Nvidia drivers barely improved in the year I used nvidia on Linux for anything other than AI and the open source drivers are years away from anything workable.
>its a six inch cube!!!!!!I know the modern audience lives in 500sqft shoebox apartments, but nobody who isnt a shill actually cares about this at all.
>>741803153>>741803213Wait, so all of the shills talking about steamos fail to mention you can't just install it on whatever you want? It HAS to be valve hardware?
>>741801716Be honest, do you really game in your living room for this to be an issue?
>>741801978>idiots that don't know how to install linux think having linux will make their life better/easierThis is why we gatekeep. Valve opening the floodgates is going to have thousands of people that don't know what they're doing bricking their machine and tying up tech support lines.
>>741801716>your rebuttal?
>>741803153>>741803213>>741803324the graphics card is replaceable.just slap in some low-profile AMD card
>>741802379You can connect a 7000 amd or 4000 nvidia series card to it using oculink. There's currently no occulink that supports pcie 5 though.
>>741803398No, it doesn't have to be Valve hardware. It just cannot be nvidia hardware. I don't know if Intel works. Probably does, at least to some extent.
>>741803398SteamOS currently works best on AMD hardware (AMD CPU + GPU), and they are still working on support for Intel and Nvidia.
>>741803398it has to be AMD right now yeah
Thats why i use a console
>>741801716https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/info/computer-chassis/SUGO15/Your move, faggot.
>>741803041You're talking to NPCs that are utterly incapable of thinking outside of their programming.
I haven't kept up with the Steam Machine. I upgraded my PC a few years ago with a stock 2080. Is the Steam Machine more powerful?
>>741801716a PC and a steam machine use the exact same amount of wires to connect to a tv
>>741803754uhm that is yucky, where is the wholesome chungus-pilled hot-swap panel with orange front panel replacement (get it guise??? orange box??? LOL us gamers amirite?)
>>741803568>>741803586>>741803592What if I have an nvidia machine, do I have to just install like ubuntu on it and hope things work?
>>741803804Fuck no.The Steam Machine is weak as piss, that's why everyone's clowning on it.Yesterday's tech at tomorrow's prices.>>741803880Best to wait as Valve announced literally yesterday that they're now working closely with Nvidia on SteamOS support (and that will in turn benefit other Linux distros by proxy)
>>741803804No, it's 2070 Super levels.
>>741803880Bazzite if Linux noob or Cachy.
>>741803754Whoa! Is that a case with no price? I kneel.
>>741803880Pretty much. Except instead of hoping things work, expect it not to work and be pleasantly surprised when some things do work.
>>741801716If you don't understand how Bluetooth works in 2010+16, then you are too retarded for PC gaming
My Bluetooth controller has a 960hz polling rate for about 3ms input lag which is fine
>>741803957The announcement should have been steam OS coming to PC and then have the steam machine piggyback off the hype. Instead the machine got mocked and the OS being pc conpatible is hardly mentioned even though it's the bigger deal.
ive had a tv livingroom setup for my pc for 10 yearsits not hard to keep wires out of the waythough i could do with zip tying under the desk but im lazy and the cats would just gnaw on them anyway
>>741804023So this whole time everyone who tries to push linux as a gaming platform just ignores the fact that half of the gpu's on the market barely work?
>>741804101The honestly should've cancelled the Steam Machine entirely, they waited far too long and now its specs look like a joke regardless of the price.
>>741801716Why does he think the steam machine has fewer cables than my desktop?Why would that make sense?
>>741801716What is even the argument, you stupid nigger-loving fag? Who the fuck has a wired controller in 2026? And how the fuck do you have three thousand things plugged into your power bar when you only have a PC and TV in your fucking image? Was this pic made by a fucking console toddler who doesn't even know how electricity works?Why do people even entertain those mouth-breathing faggots? Just call OP a nigger lover and go on your merry way to shit in another thread.
>>741804006Google it.You'll find a price.
>>741804176Or go back to the Steam Machine v1 strategy where SIs just make a PC and Valve lets them brand it with Steam stickers.
>>741804159Uh.. I don't know or care. I just think nvidia is garbage on Linux AND Windows. Whereas AMD on Linux is fine and GARBAGE with all caps on Windows.
>>741804104>zip tying under the deskJust get a square profile plastic conduit and screw it to the underside of the desk.Pic related is what I did, the cables then switch to a flexible conduit so I can still raise and lower the desk.
>>741801716This is what valvepoors are resorting to now?
>>741804268180 burgers for a case. Again, I kneel.
>>741802109>Windows>AMD
>>741804376that sounds like a lot more money and work than zip tiesi aleady tried once to wrap magnetic ties around my wires and hook them onto the metal supports of my deskonly to find out the magnetic ties are my cats absolute favorite toy
>>741804285They could've designed a custom SFF case, used mostly off-the-shelf components inside, and it would've been a better value proposition than the over-engineered, overpriced Steam Machine using recycled laptop parts on a heavily custom picoITX board.It'd actually be upgradable too.Valve are retarded, there's no other explanation.
>>741804496They're like a buck and tou can have a friend 3d print them.
>>741801716>I must spend vast amounts of money on an inferior product to... theoretically reduce wire clutter!!
>>741804481Yes, windows works better than linux
>>741804426Holy kek
>>741804426utterly, absolutely BTFO
who even has time to sit in their living room nowadays?
>>741801716>an HDMI to the TV>Power cable to the surge protector>Wireless dongles for keyboard and mouse that can be stored in a drawer next to couch>Wireless controller connected through bluetoothWow, such clutter. Oh no...
>>741801716>implying id ever feel the need to rebut a dishonest assertation
>>741804705You're making all the luddites uncomfortable. Stop it.
ok guys im genuinely fucking stupidhow do I even connect my pc to a tv if I already have 2 monitors
>>741804705fuck the donglemy keyboard constantly disconnects on dongle and chews through a full battery in 2 daysbluetooth is a lot more reliable and longer life
>>741803014>no steamos>no controller wake up>no HDMI CECliterally just plug in any PC to your TV at that point>behold le steam machine
>>741804705Why the fuck would you ever use a keyboard on a living room PC? Please stop that's dumb.
>>741804640I think it is pretty bloated.However there is only one winner in this thread.
>>741804426the icing on the fucking cake is the specs list 2x8GB, unlike the single-channel config in the Machinehttps://www.ldlc.com/en/product/PB00745923.html
>>741804770Sometimes I stream to it, but usually I just plug in another HDMI cable.
>>741801716I'm not paying $1000 to play computer games in my living room instead of my bedroom.
>>741804836>>no steamosare you retarded?anyone can install steamOS
>>741804709Would.
>>741803343Got one of those when they were a tenner.Still works perfectly.
>>741804951>anyone can install steamOSnot on that machine you cant
>>741804770by having a half decent gpu with more than two ports
>>741804426Ooof >>741804496Nope they're extremely cheap, and you don't even need power tools to cut it to size and screw it in. The actually hard part in my case was drilling a hole through the brick wall to run the HDMI cable to the TV. But now you don't see any cables at all in the whole setup, in fact even the PC is hidden under my bed.
>>741805017Linux in general tends to run on absolute garbage
>>741804705>>Wireless dongles for keyboard and mouse that can be stored in a drawer next to couchIf you use Logitech maybe other hardware brands too, but I've only done it with Logitech you can set up a single dongle to work for both mouse and keyboard, letting you have more USB slots for other stuff.
>>741804941This, I rarely use my living room. I'm not putting anything in there priced over $500 bones.
>>741805017You can, but good luck with the nvidia drivers until Valve sorts them out. Allegedly, this will be sorted out SOON(tm)
>>741805028How do you keep the computer from still thinking it is connected even when turned off? When I used to run dual monitors, even if I powered off the second one the computer will still extend the desktop to the non-existent screen. Real pain in the ass sometimes.
>>741805103He replied to a post advertising a nvidia PC. SteamOS does NOT work on nvidia graphics.
>>741804813I've had a cheap wireless keyboard I bought from Walmart and have left it on for like 3 months now and it's still on it's first set of batteries.>>741804858I'm not typing shit out with a fucking controller, fuck that.
>>741805103>>741805127yeah, but I am telling you specifically about that one since it has Nshittia, its not gonna work, big picture mode/gamescope shits the bed on it, its why it doesnt even work on Bazzite
>>741804416$1,049 - $180 = $869https://newegg.io/10426c7
>>741805045You keep pornographic photos of your family? Just sitting out there on display for the whole world to see?! That's disgusting.
>>741805198it's still objectively a better buy than the steam machine if you're in the market for a gaming mini PC
>>741805149depends on the screenwhen my oled ultrawide is off it doesnt extend same with my tv if its off for more than like 10 minutes>>741804104
>>741805208soooo lead off with that?
>>741801716Valvegolems had a chance to be forgotten after the GTA news but they keep snatching humiliation from the jaws of apathy.
>>741805250its a better performer for surebut the whole point of getting the machine is plug and playness of itits a PC with plug and play of a consoleif you get that, you might as well get a fully fledged desktop that you can upgrade
>You wouldn't download a Steam MachineErm, sorry chuds, i just did.
>>741805208Don't buy that SSD, it's even worse than Kingston NV3 and the only good thing NV3 has going for it is that it's cheap.
>>741801816i have something very similar to this; it runs moonlight and my actual gaming PC (which you know, probably 90% of the people who'd even consider a steam machine already have) runs sunlight.>4k@60hz>imperceptible input lag (sekiro, ER, etc were perfectly and totally playable with this arrangement. albeit I do have gigabit ethernet between my office and the living room)but even that withstanding, having a thunderbolt port on the damn thing for an optional eGPU would help immensely in the performance department, aesthetics be damned.honestly the steam machine is a DOA incoming-flop. it needs to cost about $300 and be seen as a loss leader for>steam machine approved titles(like they do already with the deck.)
>>741804426>it's realhttps://www.ldlc.com/en/product/PB00745923.html
Idk console seems like a better value
>>741805348if you want an equivalent plug & play experience, install SteamOS on it.Give it a year tops and I'll bet PC builders will start selling systems with SteamOS preinstalled too.
>>741805302Why is there a SATA SSD in that image? Did I time travel to 2014?
>>741802379Can you ask my question? Cube PCs are a thing since 2000s
>>741804770>monitors: display port x2>TV/receiver: HDMI>optional: use display fusion to switch between the two and set display resolution, refresh rate, audio setup etc via hotkey.
>>741805302You gotta include the price for PC assembly, so put another $50-$100 on there. >But you can do it yourselfOh, I can. I have every cisco certification you can get. But the people who want to play games on PC? They aren't like me, they will not assemble their own computer.
>>741805321Sure. This is probably better though >>741804426>>741805371It's not a real build. I just quickly threw it together to prove a point. Is anotehr Anon wants to take it and run with it, i.e. make better choices, then I recommend they do so.
>>741802248>chords
>>741805459its not just the OS thoughit has custom hardware for booting via controller, hdmi cec and shit that makes it more console like
>>741805510cute birb
What the fuck are all those wires?Why are you using a wired mouse and wired kb? We're not in 1997, you can use a dongle for ~3ms latency, which is well within tolerance for everything but fighting games.Why is there more than a single HDMI/DP from PC to monitor?Why do you have m&kb AND controllers?Why is your PC bigger than your tv?I'm confused.If I'm using my PC in my living room for some reason 99% of the time it's just watching something using it (like streaming from a camrip site or something) and I'm just streaming to our TV because who cares if it's got latency when you're watching a movie.What the fuck are you people doing?
>>741805442but i have 6 gorillion games on steam already
>>741804426Gabe??????
pc gaming is just a sissy clit measuring contest. catch me being comfy with my switch 2 LIKE A BOSS!!
>>741804426NONONONONO YOU DONT GET IT YOU DONT GET IT THE STEAM MACHINE IS SO MUCH MORE CONVENIENT NONONON DELETE THIS PLEASE DELETE IT NOW SAGE SAGE SAGE
>>741805560>custom hardware for booting via controller, hdmi cecis that literally it?I doubt even normies will care about having to push a power button. Hell, you could just leave it on standby.
>>741801716Organize better and use USB strips that add ports.
>>741804426>not a single machine defender has attempted to rebuttal thisHOLY KEKMACHINE BTFOVALVE BOIS BUTT-DEVASTATED
>>741805513I am all for shitting on this overpriced trash but your "heh look at this case.....um look at these parts.....but um this other post is better" is some straight up faggot shit.
>>741805657Take your safe-comfy bullshit and shuv it up your ass mate
>>741801716Valve on full damage control huh. Keep spamming these threads stupid cunts
>>741805510>But the people who want to play games on PC? They aren't like me, they will not assemble their own computer.when did this shift? i'm of an embarrassing age to be posting on /v/, but growing up it was the nerds into computer gaming who were actually technically savvy. Things like a Dos prompt or dicking around with .sys files to get a game to run in windows on 8MB ram. were commonplace before youtube, copilot and every other braindead easy how-to imaginable become available on demand; any time, any where.but now it seems the zoomers are absolutely fucking baffled by anything more demanding than opening an app on their phone.
>>741805657*puts on steam frame*
i am buying a machine for my gf to play in her living room. Obviously a PC can be built better, but for her it just needs to be plug and play
>>741804426>Valve takes months to develop their GabeCube>this one company offers a cheaper, better and more upgradeable option in a matter of daysThe "cheaper if you assemble it yourself" part is the cherry on top. But we all know how Pcbros work, they will buy the Steam Machine anyway and do mental gymnastics to justify it.
>>741805791My point was to prove that a better machine can be built cheaper.Someone else made that point better that I.Therefore, I defer to them. What's faggoty about that?
>>741805787Rebut it in what way? It does perform better, but it's likely gonna be loud as fuck. They don't specify which specific 9060 XT they selected nor do they specify the CPU cooler (unless I missed it) so I can only assume the worst case.
>>741806009>What's faggoty about thatYou couldn't flesh out your argument well.
>>741805219I have them of my cat too.
>>741806007they're no "pcbros" they're all linuxtroons and pcbros
>>741806007You could have built that specific computer over a year ago.
>>741806089lmao, Valve[.]drone is still a filtered word.
>>741806089>valve drone is filteredthe faggot jannies man, every time
>>741804426>we do better if you do itI'm all for this but that tag line is pure shit.
>>741806047even the worst-case parts would still massively overperform Machine, and I really doubt noise levels would be that high none of the parts are especially high TDP anyway. Worst-case scenario, you could power limit to reduce thermals & fan noise.
>>741806082But I don't need to do so now, do I?Why waste the effort when it has already been done?
>all these people defending a product they'll never buy just to protect Gabe's honor
>>741806196it's translated from french to be fair
>>741806205It was done after your attempt toughbeit.
>>741805668>I doubt even normies will care about having to push a power buttonoh but they do
>>741806262Yes. He beat Rothschild & keeps Steam safe - that's enough to win me over. Valve's games being fantastic is just the cherry on top.
>>741806198I'm not disputing performance, I'm just saying it'll probably be loud as fuck. The 9060 XT has high TDP, well, it's around 160-200W. That results in pretty loud cooling if every penny is pinched, which is exactly what I'm afraid of. They don't specify which model they use. Also they are using the lowest end motherboard possible.
>>741801716My rebuttal is asking why this strawman has 9 cables going from the PC to the TV
>>741801716lol
>>741805846Around 2014, several years after the smartphone really got legs. Starting noticing less people out there memorizing error codes and model numbers.
>>741805954Get her a stim machine kek
>>741806284It was done before my attempt.>>741804426 Theirs>>741805208 MineNote the timestamps on each post.
>>741806602Reallt?Thiers>>741804426Yours>>741803754
>>741806481>The 9060 XT has high TDP, well, it's around 160-200WAnon that's not that high, the Steam Machine's GPU TDP is ~130W (measured by DF)
If you *need* to play on the couch, just buy a console. Use the right tool for the job.
>>741806764If you're worried about tdp you can undervolt and underclock and it will still shit all over the steam machine.
>>741801716Doesn't Steam OS basically allow any machine to be as hands-off as a steam machine?Like you could install Steam OS on any shitbox and have it essentially perform the same function as the steam machine?
>>741801716But this is already exactly what I do, atx case in the lounge, it's my server, and most evenings my wife and I play vidya and watch our shows on it
>>741806848Exactly, kekanon is just coping real hard
>>741806764The Steam Machine is literally all heatsink. I don't think you're familiar with how shit tier manufacturers like ASUS cheap out on gfx card cooling solutions. I had an ASUS 3060 Ti and it sounded like a vacuum cleaner. Reviews showed that it was quiet compared to other ones but it was bullshit, it was actually loud as fuck. 3060 Ti is officially 200W TDP by the way, it's not that high.
>>741804426Finally, someone posts a small form factor Steam Machine killer that's actually comparable. This was the entire appeal to me with the Gabecube. I'd roll my eyes at people posting midtower builds as if they were the same.
>>741804426these wont work unless you show percentiles how much weaker that shit is
>>741806836>If you sit on a couch to relax and play a game it needs to be goy approvedhold the fuck up jewish man, you can't tell me how to enjoy MY living room. It wasn't promised to you 3000 years ago, fuck off.
>>741806959sounds like you bought a defective one, unironically
>>741806481It's 160W and it's trivial to cool. I have the cheapest ASUS dual model with puny cooling compared to some of the more expensive models and it never gets loud. I've had actually power hungry cards that I had to modify with 120mm fans to keep them quiet under load.
>>741807003>9060>weakerDude, what are you smoking?
>>741807003>weakerPFFT HAHAHAHAHA
>>741801716I have none, this is exactly what I do. I use my TV as a third monitor where I shit post and watch videos from the couch. I use the OG steam controller.
Buying underpowered, overpriced shit is good because.......
>>741807157You probably have higher noise tolerance. >>741807154No it's perfectly normal, the reason it's so loud is because the heatsink is very light. It weighs like half of my GTX 980 (180W card) and my 9060 XT is even heavier than the GTX 980. The heatsink weight has a huge effect on how much heat it can dissipate without running the fans at over 1200 RPM.
>>741807003It's massively faster even when paired with a mid-tier Zen 3 CPU.
>>741805510>I have every cisco certification you can getLol, has that ever been of any use to you?
People be like>I wanna play on my big TV and couch!Okay have a big TV in your room? TVs are like $100 these days for a 4k 60 inch
>>741807373it just is okay?
>>741807438>You probably have higher noise tolerance.I wish I did, but I don't.
>>741807515Fuck no, I work at walmart
>>741807609Pretty based, what RPM you running your fans at? Maybe ASUS AMD cards are less trash than their Nvidia cards. I have a 9060 XT Nitro+ though and that's god tier in terms of cooling.
>>741807585Pretty much the only thing in this damnable economy that is affordable. Which is even more depressing when I really think about it.
Steam Machine pros>Form factorSteam Machine cons>Everything else
>>741807714This is my old 5700XT with the modded fans, ignore the boomer-tier photo of a screen. The ASUS 9060 XT fans are also under 2000 RPM under load, but I keep my room cool and the case has good airflow.
>>741801716Oh my God can we finally admit valve fanboys are the worst?
>>741808003no, tendies still wear that crown
>>741808162Nah that crown gets taken away when someone walks in paying s thousand bucks for something worse than a current generation console
>>741808262That's not how it works
>>741807957Then you do have less noise autism than I do. 2000 RPM for me is extremely high, on the Nitro+ fans are pretty quiet at 1700 RPM - on the ASUS card it was awful even at 1600 RPM - but I still rather not see that if I can help it. Most of my fans including case fans are less than 1000 RPM. The CPU and GPU fans can go over that specially since it's fucking hot here. I can barely survive myselfIf you think you have it hard then be glad you're not me.
This shit isn't rocket science
>>741806087Cool minecraft picture.
>>741808904>wrist aimingyikes
>>741804426That's a pretty sweet case, I'm building one SFF right now, got almost all the parts, but still need to settle with a case. What is that case btw?
>>741808831Maybe, but I have severe autism about cables >>741804376 >>741805045Stashing the PC away helps a lot with noise too.>>741808985Thanks, I love my kitty cat
>>741809009Sugo G13
>>741809009I hope you don't have big ol' fatboy hands
>>741802513>issues where it would not wake from sleep & resume properly, resulting in poor performance until you reboot the system anywayThat's not related to CEC.
>>741804426You will not be able to play a lot of games with anti-cheats on your homebrew Bazzite/SteamOS machine. As you see with the SteamDeck, they specifically whitelist the SteamDeck hardware and nothing else.
>>741809368It happened when powering on the display to power on the cube, so it is
>>741809368Correct, it's just Linux jank
>>741809432No.
>>741801716>your rebuttal?if you're gonna do it, do it properly. In my old home I had my PC in my room and ran cables through the walls for HDMI/USB hubs that plugged into the TV. Worked fine.
the steam machine just seems like a cute oddity to buy for someone who has disposable income. I can't see why you'd want one otherwise. I guess if you're loaded and you'd rather have a whole computer in the living room instead of figuring out something else.
>>741809424Are any of those games the kind you'd play on a TV?
>valve hardware is SHIT. valve products are SHIT>both the steamdeck and now gabecube have an army of chinese knock-offs
>>741809950yepA class of people that I'm not part of. I'll stick with the full tower setup. Since apparently I'm not yuppie enough for Valve.
>>741810103I sort of feel the same about the steam deck, even though I did buy one when they were like 500$ (wouldn't buy one at the price they are now). Though conceptually you can see yourself playing on it if you're not at your place (which I have done) it's just such a rare occurrence for me that it's been gathering dust for a long time. I think it's nice hardware, though.
>>741809424Just install windows
>>741810508without dicking around with whatever de-bloated/de-cunted windows ISO is floating around, windows is trash for what amounts to an appliance.random reboots/updates, random popups, it's obnoxious. to get it to a usable state you might as well just go with a linux distro and not be constantly pestered by MS's obnoxious bullshit.
>>741801716Have these niggers never heard of steam link?
>>741810747>steamlinkit's garbagesunlight/moonlight is better in literally every single way =P
>>741810650LTSC has none of those issues tho
>>741806452They don't make games anymore and they abandoned CS2 and TF2 updates.
>>741804705>Wireless dongles for keyboard and mouse that can be stored in a drawer next to couchIf you only need KBM input once in a blue moon then you can use your phone as one with unified remote or kde connect.
>>741810650You've never used Windows.
Holy shit there's a Frieren GPU. I want this.
>>741812609that's the dumbest thing i've seen posted, pretty much ever.windows update LOVES To cunt you with random fucking updatesand YES YOU CAN disable it, through registry/gpo i know that. but christ alive, at that point, just go with Linux.
>>741812707>take 5 seconds to disable something so it doesn't bother you for the next decade>WOW YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST USE LINUX IF YOU ARE WILLING TO GO THAT FARIf this nigga for real?
>>741812707I've been using Windows for over 20 years now and I don't have any problems with it. I just see Linux users who have never used Windows making up stories about how bad Windows is.
>>741813229You don't need to make up stories, Windows is shit
So PC máster race guys just wanted a console????
>>741812702>A HECKIN ANIME STICKER ON MY GPU?!?!?! TAKE ONE GAZILLION DOLLAROS RIGHT NOW
>>741801716>plug HDMI / Display in>connect power cord>Connect wireless controller>Set steam to boot into big picture mode ????????????????????????Literally no difference. out the way plebs, if you think your gaming setup is gonna keep you from getting laid you already lost
>>741812702You won't even see it once installed. If you want Frieren in your PC so bad just custom order a printed vinyl sticker and put it on your case. >>741813675Not really, we already have a current gen console cause they're cheap.
>>741812702>$1150lmaothat's a 70% markup over the 9070xt
>>741801716You're brown and so was whoever made that image.
>>741813219did you miss the part where i said >AS AN APPLIANCEgod you cunty faggots never miss the chance to post some obnoxiously stupid knee-jerk faggotry. it's a box sitting on your entertainment stand or whatnot, maybe without even having a kb/mouse hooked up (or handy). you want it to be available to use whenever, without having to deal with modal popups cunting at you about needing to reboot, or install this update, or whatever.i know you want to be an obnoxious, contrarian slut, and that's your prerogative, but jesus it's annoying.
>>741813229>I just see Linux users who have never used Windows making up stories about how bad Windows is.are you serious retard?everyone has used windowsyou're not fooling anyone, shit just doesn't respect you
>>741813956thats the manufactures goy price. My RTX 5070ti is one of the better versions, got it on release for 900 after tax.
>you will have messy tangled cables everywhere>unless you buy the steam machine of course!
>>741814019>everyone has used windowsWho is always running around all over /v/ and advertising Linux?
>>741814006>guy shilling for linux calling others contrarianslollmao
>>741813675Only steam users
>>741814006>>741813219wrong rage-baiting faggot post.
>>741814129Me, Linux guy. Every single post is mine.
>>741814129ex windows users that have seen the light after a decade of windows being destroyed by jeetsyou're just goycattle
>>741814231 Linux will never be as convenient as Windows or MacOS.
>>741814129Me. Used Windows for 30 years.
>>741801816Isn't that the jeetshit slop shit?>>741801716I really don't care for any of it all. But I do find it funny how people that weren't going to and aren't going to buy the Steam Machine are having meltdowns over it, as though they've been insulted. It all smacks of jeetseethe.Just don't buy it if you don't want it, move on, install SteamOS on your own PC if you want a steam machine for free. I mean come on man
>>741801716my partner would NEVER let me put a PC in the living room
>>741801716>people are actually defending the cult cube unironicallylmfao valvefags are catttlee
>>741814350I find the shittiness of the hardware hilarious, especially valvefags squirming when it's called out.
>>741814382Your partner is a fag and your shit is all retarded
>>741814382You forget that 99% of /v/ are 30-40yo singles with very little game, if you'll pardon the pun. Maybe that's why they don't understand the appeal of the Steam Machine
>>741814382
>>741814512almost 50% of gen z has never had sex bro, who you trying to fool?
>>741814350>Isn't that the jeetshit slop shit?It's an extremely low performance SFF PC.
>>741814306installing shit is already more convenienttroubleshooting is also vastly more intuitive, you're not dealing with the niggery of windows registry, it's all just basic config filesidk why you insist on having an opinion on something you've never used
The PC can stay on the desktop. In the living room even my PS4 outperforms the steam machine.
>>741814626How do I run wemod or a table with scripts for a cheat engine on minux? Why isn't there an Android emulator (waydroid doesn't work)?
>>741814505That's fair. It's mid and people claiming otherwise are goofy, but I hope it sells and other - better - builds are marketed by Valve or third parties in the near future, so that SteamOS get real traction. That's what matters
>im retarded, thats why youre wrongokay then
>>741814575Shut up pops
>>741814805>cheat engineThis nigger cheats in singleplayer games
>>741814887Get it together, son
>>741814813it doesn't need to sell for SteamOS to gain traction.
>>741814805https://gemini.google.com/appi'm not your tech support retard, look it up yourself instead of bringing up random tangents
>>741815119Either way, it will sell and we'll get SteamOS becoming a real alternative to windows for gamers.So all in all, despite the underwhelming specs and unsatisfying price of the cube, this is the start of something glorious
>>741815303>SteamOS becoming a real alternative to windows for gamersGood joke
>>741814382>partnercodeword for "I'm a fag"
>>741801716reminds me of that stupid meme "how would you feel if a girl saw you plugging a laptop into a tv"
>>741815125On Windows everything works out of the box, and I don’t have to ask Gemini how to do basic things.
>>741815360left side of the iq bell curve post
>>741801816SEEEEEEERS
>>741815394For Millenials/Gen Z it's girlfriend -> partner -> fiance -> wife
>>741815480>On Windows everything works out of the boxgood joke
>>741815553left side of the iq bell curve post
>>741815602aren't you crying that linux is too hard for you?
>>741815552Yeah, but people who use that word believe faggy things so basically they're just fags. It's an identifier.
>>741815360If I can do my office work and hobby work on SteamOS (which it seems likely I can, with the desktop mode) and have compatibility with all my games on it too, then fuck why wouldn't I choose the free OS, that also use less resources. Windows is out of vogue, time to make way for the fresh blood
>>741815552That's just not true. Partner is always gay.
>>741815653NTA but this mindset was always retarded. Nobody wants to spend extra time tweaking or troubleshooting their system when you need to use your system for actual work.
>>741814074Cable management ain't free. You gotta buy a $1000 box to put all your wires in.
>>741815653It's not complicated, and it's impossible to do things in it that can be done on windows.
>>741815735The only thing gayer is "significant other".
>>741815674Walking into an office meeting talking about a "girlfriend" sounds awkward.
>>741801956I wish someone made a SFF case with a built in micro SD card reader so that I can share games between it and my steam deck. I can get a mini tower with a 3.5 inch bay for an IO panel, but at that point I may as well slap in a couple extra SATA SSDs and forget the panel altogether. I hope the steam machine inspires some company to make a case with a reader.
>>741815778so what distro did you use? your opinion is based on reality, right?
>>741815736>posts on /v/>but muh important work of posting on 4chanWhat is this fucking joke? Also you have to troubleshoot shitloads on Windows too. Consider yourself lucky that you're old enough to know how to use Windows. Doing tech support for Windows is really sad, specially if it's some retarded luddite using Windows 10 who somehow doesn't have powershell.
>>741815901It does not. You're just a fag.
>>741809424why would you type something like this in an authoritative manner while having no clue what you are talking about?
>>741815907
>>741815912Bazzite and steamos, I understand the concept of these distros, but I don't find them convenient compared to windows.
>>741815994>anon accidentally admits he's a microsoft tech support jeetyikes
>>741804426STEAMJEETS BTFO
>>741816091I don't do tech support as a job, nor do I do it for Microsoft. I do it voluntarily for an application that has nothing to do with Windows or Microsoft. That application just happens to be Windows native.
>>741816118you do know valve wants others to make steam machines for them right?
>>741807373based ramgod
>>741816294You mean mini itx pc?They were a thing for a while now. Valve didn't invent it.The things they invented tend to be anti consumer stuff like paid modding, underage gambling ecosystems, drm store ecosystems etc.
>>741816527I already told you steam jeet. They are called mini itx. Google it.
>>741816482no aquajeet, living room gamer pcs that will replace consoles>paid moddingnever happened>underage gambling ecosystemsthere is no way to prevent underage gambling>drm store ecosystems etc.console drm is worsephysical drm steam replaced was worse>>741816637i know what mini itx is you dumb fucking faggotvalve is encouraging small form factors to replace consoles in the living room
>>741816714>paid modding>never happened>he doesn't know
>>741816881are you still mindbroken over something that has only been a thing for 0.05% of steam's lifetime a decade ago?
>>741817108>never happened>actually it happened b-bu-it's time to stop posting saar
>>741817310i'll take that as a yes thenyou must be insufferably vindictive irl
>>741817447>get caught lying>"you are insuffrablea saaar"
>>741816068Nigger I don't want a external reader I want it built into the case
>>741807482i have a 5600x/6700xt. i wonder what i would get in CD
>>741817661no, you're just derangedthe feature was discontinued after four days and everyone was refundedit didn't impact anyone except your mental health apparently
>>741801716I could boot up my PC in the other room using my xbox controller and the steam app on my samsung TV never leaving my couch until they fucking killed the app, it was seamless. Still fucking mad.
yeah? and I don't care. I use keyboard and mouse on sofa anyway
>>741801716lmao what is that a setup from 2013?
>>741817918Can you stop replying to me, steamjeet? I don't talk to liars.
>>741818148despite being 17% of the population jeets account for less than 1% of steam's trafficat least try to make your insults accurate, this is patheticif you don't like being replied to you can just stop talkingor maybe develop an actual argument instead of throwing a fit about something no one has actually lost anything from
>>741815653linux is free if your time is worthless
>>741818975linux is easy if you have triple digit iq
>>741818320You can't read so i'll google translate for you:क्या आप मुझे जवाब देना बंद कर सकते हैं? मैं झूठ बोलने वालों से बात नहीं करता।
>>741819394steam doesn't even have a hindi option retardthat's how few jeets it hasyou're desperate to force a narrative because you can't mount a rational argument against steam
>>741819473Just like the "aquajeet" narrative you steamdrones force?What's that? You can't take the heat now that I am disingenuous like you by playing race card?You brought this on yourself. Enjoy steamjeet.
>>741819660lmao you're upsetis there a reason you've melted down into screaming about how you don't like being insulted instead of arguing your case?oh right, it's because you don't actually have a case against steam, you're just butthurt
>>741819819you literally got caught lying and saying "deai with it"
>>741815552If you were dating a girl you would just say girlfriend. There is no "partner" level. Saying "partner" is for gay people who can't lie about being gay but don't want to out immediately out themselves (they do anyway)
>>741819894>you're lying because you're not humoring my delusion of paid mods having any impactpaid mods was a thing for four days and everyone got refundedit had no impactit effectively didn't happenand the fact that this nothingburger of an argument is and what you're using to crusade with and what got your panties in a twist speaks volumes about how good steam actually ismaybe get some material from this decade?
>>741820162you're lying because you said "never happened"
>>741820275you're a nitpicking redditor that is arguing about the difference between 0.05% with all its effects reversed and 0%
>>741820446I can tell you regret lying like that because of the reply chain
>>741820563no, you're just horrible with words because you're an esllike destiny but even more bitchy and petty and with a fraction of the grasp of english language
>>741820770who the fuck is destiny
>>741801716I run a 50' HDMI cable across my apartment to my television. It's among the most based things I've ever done. It just works. I use a PS5 controller, and it is fully compatible with every Steam game. This is a personal problem.
>>741801716a NUC with moonlight is exponentially cheaper than a tard cube
Why even buy a Living room gaming PC when you can just stream games to the TV.I stream my 2000$ gaming PC whit 32 GB or Ram and 6 TB of SSD space that i got back when prices ware more stable.And also a 200$ used gaming Laptop that is as powerful as a PS4 that i play older games and indies and can so my daily grind in older games like Destny 2 and Guild Wars 2 on and can even stream my gaming PC to at work.
>>741801716Why is it always extremes with these people.
>>741821221people still use parsec?have you never heard of moonlight/sunshine anon?
>>741821221moonlight has less input lag than parsec fyiparsec is for streaming across the internet, not really for local network streaming
>>741821348nta but dealing with parsec through a self-hosted VPN to use moonlight on a different network is a nightmare, you're better off using parsec in that use case
the steam link just werked without buying a whole nother PC like a retard
>>741821129NUC with moonlight needs another system running sunshine. I don't think you can claim it's cheaper since you have to buy the other system too.
>>741821631Then who is this for???consolefags sure ain't gonna buy it at that price.PC gamers already have better desktopscasuals don't even know it exists (and would rather buy a cheap console anyway)So who is this even for?
>>741801716I have my pc set up at a desk like a normal person. Got myself a nice comfy office chair. I think i could sit there longer than a couch or recliner. I do not want for anything more.
>>741821829this would have been a golden opportunity as a LOSS LEADER. $300 bucks. add a verification program for releases like they do with the deck.but noooo.christ, it's valve, one of the most profitable companies on the entire planet, they could have absorbed the cost.
>>741821829Why are you asking me? Actually, why do you even care? If nobody can figure out it's for them, then nobody will buy it. Simple as. It's not for me. I don't even have a TV.
>>741801716what's that case, looks sick
steamies be like: but I HAVE to buy it! Give me a rationalization to buy it now!!!!
>>741802765Fuck off
>>741821060But how does the controller stay connected? Mine disconnects when i leave the room the computer is in
>>741801923These things fucking suck ass. Mine will randomly disconnect and sometimes not even work half the time.
>>741803459
>>741805954So this is the target audience for the Machine. Retarded simps.
>>741801716.
>>741804426wow a whole 40 euros cheaper, really dodging a bullet getting this one instead lol.
>>741824518The 9060 XT is 80% more powerful than the garbo chip on gabecube.
>>741802765>Usb 2.0 in the year of our lord 2026Fuck off with that garbage
>>741806087Ha
>>741824810>ignoring the 3 USB3.2 ports>and a USB4 port toolol
>>741804426The part that Gabe does not want us to notice is that these small cases are designed to separately cool the CPU and GPU. They aren't going to be quiet and there's a limit in how small they get, but they have been confirmed to work. While Gabe Cube reportedly has just one 120mm fan moving air to cool the whole PC.
>>741801716I'm in this picture and I don't like it.
>>741801716This $5 pop will do.
>>741817662Sane idea, but I guess case manufacturers just don't want to bother. We're lucky we're still getting audio jacks.
>>741801716my pc has a 25' HDMI cord attached to my 55" tv, so if i want to play in bed i can. i usually just use my monitors, but sometimes i do use all 3 displays
>>741805196>MoonlightTo what client? You won't get 4k120 on your TV so you'll need a minipc regardless
>wallslop>couchslopthe only TV a true patrician will be playing games on is the 42" HDR OLED at his desk. proper gaming requires proper equipment and ergonomics. slouching on your hood nigger couch and watching your TV shake while your neighbor rams your shared wall all night long is not a proper gaming experience. please do better.
>>741805302>no smallest case Cheapest case is too big in the living room.
If you were a gambling person would you believe RAM/SSD prices will keep going up at the end of this year, or go down at all?
for me it's 55 inch mounted on wall that can extend/rotate up to 3 feet. so I can play at my desk or view from the floor on my authentic japanese futon
I actually just finished doing a living room setup. Used Fiber HDMI and USB over Ethernet to run everything about 50ft through my walls. Works great. The USB over Ethernet hub terminates right behind my couch so I can use wired or wireless controllers right where I sit. It made gaming fun again for me, been playing a lot of PS1 games. Just finished Symphony of the Night for the first time.
>>741801938How come no one's been able to answer this yet?
>>741824670It's the 8 gb vram version. Also it's coming from europe so there's shipping costs there. And euros to usd the 999.99 unassembled is about 1135 usd so it's about 100 more expensive. Also the power supply provided is 350 watts but the 9060xt requires 450 watts so their supply is under AMD's minimum requirement. Here's the full specs https://www.ldlc.com/en/product/PB00745923.html Basically you're getting fucked one way or another brother.
>>741826535>>741801938Normies enjoy controllers. They dont like M&K. They dont like gaming chairs. They want the appeal of the big screen and the casual nature of the couch. They same simplicity. They hate wires and thinking about parts and maintenance. The Steam machine is more like a statement piece to them.
>>741817989Just get any android dongle and do the same with Moonlight
>>741826692Horrid little creatures. They disgust me.
>>741826692>They dont like gaming chairs.Good. Gaming chairs suck and are overpriced. Pic rel is my "gaming chair"
>>741804426>no microsd slot because "slow"?yikes
>>741804705>Bluetoothlmao. any half decent peripheral will have a usb dongle.
>>741801716you know pcs are equipped with wifi and bluetooth right?
>>741821983those yachts are not gonna fund themselves
>>741827106And here is your gaming desk
>>741801716>>741801816>>741801819>>741801853>>741801902>>741801923>>741827480>>741827480
>>741826692Fuck normalfags Why the fuck does this place care so much about what they think?
My 3 years old gaymen laptop massively mogs gabecube and I got it for about the same price.
>>741808904Buy a wireless keyboard and mouse
>>741826692>Normies
>>741826692bitch, i spend all day working at a computer desk, the last thing i want to do is fucking spend my leisure time sitting at a god damn computer desk.
>>741827535Nah, my desk is a giant L shaped desk covered in empty water bottles and soda cans.
>>741801716Shows that how dumb /v/tards is, baka
>>741801938Because that's what people wanted the Steam Machine for.
>>741808904based af
>>741803456That is not what he said. And on SteamOS, you never even have to leave game mode.
>>741808904Wheres your PC ?
>>741828860hi peasant consolefag
I just use moonlight and play using my desktop in the same room input lag is basically imperceptible.
>>741828916Is it on next room ? cause i see cable there
>>741804426If it comes with SteamOS, this is exactly what Valve wanted. Valve doesn't give a damn whether they sell the hardware themselves or not.
>>741827707If you don’t mind a loud, overheating laptop, then more power to you.>>741828860picrelated and time to find Waldo
>>741804426>There stim machine>several checks for shit that's exactly the same on the machine, but they put an x over thereThis reads like a scam.
>>741829165Stop spoon-feeding the retarded peasant consolefags!
>>741829165Oh cool. But i prefer PC on both on my room and my living room.And yes, its possible
>>741801716I literally don't have a living room. I just turned that into a place to put my guns.
>>741801716I live in a basement apartment with my wife. I have an RTX 3090 PC I built years ago, never felt the need to upgrade because it still rips basically every game in half. I run a single HDMI cable from my PC to my living room tv. I have a wireless keyboard with a lapboard and mousepad. Pic related, has nice cushioning underneath. I also have wireless headphones and controllers. I could also just cast my PC to the living room TV if I only need 60fps. The living room tv is an LG OLED tv that outputs 120fps, has GSync and is connected to my surround sound system.I have been playing PC games in 4k120fps in my living room, with surround sound, with either mouse and keyboard or controllers, very comfortably for the last 6 years. I thought all PC gamers did something like this? For those wondering how much money this cost me? Thousands upon thousands of course. But goddamn has this shit been worth it. Any friend I've shown the setup to has tried to emulate it because its objectively the best way to play video games.
>>741829538yikes
>>741829639It sounds fucking amazing. Definitely my dream PC setup for the future.
>>741808904based. Pretty much exactly like what I have going. These subhumans will never understand and instead obsess over Steam Machine and other wannabe console pcs.
>>741829639did you notice any burn-in yet
>>741829759I built all this shit in late 2020. Amazing how my PC is literally more expensive now. The dream pc setup used to be semi-affordable if you were smart. I sat from the sidelines enjoying my setup for years while the PC hardware market imploded. I'll upgrade the PC maybe end of the decade.
>>741829857After 7 years owning an LG C9? Yeah the edges are kinda dying, other than that it's fine.
>>741802575>apu vs gpunot even a contest which is why everyone is just talking out of their ass
>>741829165I like wood design on PC cases. It looks nice.
>>741804990Same. I use it all the time and it works pretty fucking good if your network isn't dogshit. I often forget I'm playing remotely
>>7418246708gb xt is not the same card much like 3gb 1060 was not the same card
>>741802406yeah dude i love the 10% of devices that aren't usb-c and i go to plug them in with a wire i have lying around and it's like, "oh wait, it's micro-usb" and then I feel like punching a hole in the wall, fuck you.
>>741805358I kneel honestly but what's the gpu
>>741826998Don't do this, some of them have ABSOLUTE DOGSHIT audio delay SPECIFICALLY in steaming apps
>>741801716imagine being unable to manage the wires from a keyboard, mouse, headset and controllersyou've gotta be like 80 iq at that point
>>741830616works on my machine
>>741831545Which you have not shared spec of
>>741801716>>741803343
>>741809424>As you see with the SteamDeck, they specifically whitelist the SteamDeck hardware and nothing else.no, not really, stop lying
>>741816118iffysex
>>741832273my man. it just werks.my moonlight client, did not though. I bought some $200 chinesium bullshit mini-pc (intel n5105 with 8gb ram). Out of the box it came with w11 and was dogshit for streaming over the LAN. Wound up installing a stripped down fedora ISO that boots directly into a compiled from source version of moonlight. Comfortably pushes 60fps@4k with almost zero input lag.>inb4 blog postthat's the only use case I can really see for the steam machine, as an adjunct to your already existing gaming PC. it certainly does not need the price tag they're asking. And the lack of a thunderbolt port makes adding an eGPU impossible, again gimping it for anything other than pixelshit indieslop.
>>741808904>fuckhuge keyboard>tiny ass mousepad>mousepad in portrait>high DPI>wiredCursed, 60/75% was made for this scenario. You're going to destroy your wrist permanently with an RSI gaming like that. Proper mouse control is moving the mouse exclusively with your arm and making micro adjustments with your fingertip (not palming the mouse).
>>741834359>lacks fine motor skills>whines
>>741834415No? I have exceptional aiming skills. When I cared about competitive gaming I made top 300 worldwide in RS6 (don't really care about that shit anymore though as it made the game feel like a job). Aiming with your wrist will destroy it. Gaming with low DPI is for health. You aim with your arm and do fine adjustments by pulling/tilting/pushing the mouse with your fingertips. That setup will cause carpel tunnel guaranteed. Rapid wrist movements, like the kind performed by a complete retard while gaming, result in hyperextension and hyperflexion. It creates microstressors that add up and cause tension on tendons and the anatomical structures in your hand. The difference between minor inflammation and permanent damage is extremely small, you will go from "hmm my wrist feels kinda funny" to permanent irreversible damage in no time. There is no build-up. Genuinely you should considering making adjustments before it is too late. Not going to take anymore bait. Just expressing concern for the wellbeing of fellow anons, nigger.
most people are just complete fucking retards huh
>>741801716I have a PC that slides into my TV stand. It just looks like an Xbox, and it's not amazing but it's more powerful that a ps5 pro, and the steam thingy.
>>741825671I bought a Steam Link soon after receiving my Steam Controller and it is a dream, invisible latency AND it works better than the moonlight app on the smart TV I have
>>741834798ok unc
>>741801716>Muh cablesvs>PerformanceKek. You can't still hit 60+fps with the SM my niggas. Enjoy your unstable 30fps 1440p XD
>>741803754Steam machine is sleek and sexyThis is hueg like xbox
Its 2026, you can stream from desktop to some shitty old dumpster-dived thinkpad connected to your TV.
>>741801816>no ventsmust be silent. How do the chicks do it?
>>741801716Steamies aren't sending their best
>>741828636Doesn't look level. Why doesn't this look level? Anon, you better not have fucked that up
>>741801716LMAO even
>>741801716My Motherboard has onboard bluetooth so I just connect my Xbox Series Controller to it wirelessly with it hooked up to my 4k TV and works like a console. With Playnite installed so it can boot my games in a console like interface. The pics just show how retarded some of these slop defenders are.
>>741801716Not being able to hide or blend your PC well into a living room is a skill issue.
>>741838117The vents are on the bottom
>>741838479This. I have a nice 55" OLED connected to my PC along with a bluetooth DS3 and 2.4g xbox controller. Any time I want to play something casually, I'll switch the displays and wake up a controller. It Just Works(tm) with everything from Cuphead to Kynseed, Duckstation to RDR2. Also I'm careful about burn-in so no worries there
>>741802379So the selling point is literal jewish saturn worship?
>>741801716>get a 4k tv>get a "PC" that can only do 1080p 60fps at bestIt makes no sense
>>741801716just stream your gaming pc to your TV sister?
>>741801716The Steam Machine is the equivelant of a Ryzen5 2700x and a RTX3060. It's basically a toaster
>>741801816at least stick to the tinyminimicro project brands
I stream from my PC with either my Steamdeck or Nvidia Shield. Neither are perfect but my PC vastly outperforms the Steamcube.
Pcbros really are the applefags/playstation fags of the pc world now aren't they?
>look at benchmarks for the steam machine>below the 5700xt>man i miss my old 5700xt>remember it's in the pc i built for my exfuck you gaben give me back my gpuit was the 50th anniversary edition as well
>>741802513Valve is a software company. Ship broken fix later. The Deck have been consistently receiving updates for the past 4 years.
>>741804640
>>741840342>they really censored valv* dron*Cuck website.
>>741841006I understand you don't like playing games.
>>741834359I've been using a mouse like that for nearly 30 years and my wrist is still strong as fuckI'm starting to think fags who get carpel tunnel are the ones who baby their wrist joints as you describe
>>741801716I use an nvidia shield to stream and playnite as the UI.
>>741801816ngl I have hopium for fex
>>741803459I wouldn't even buy that for $57.39.
>>741803352The point is that you can't just buy $1,000 of parts and say lol i beat the steam machine at performance which also costs $1,000 when the steam machine had the fucking restriction of needing to make everything fit in a 6 inch case.It's like saying yeah I made a cake that tastes better than yours, even though i took a fucking year to practice baking cakes and you took a week.There is a big fucking difference when you remove the small form factor constraint.>It doesn't matterFuck you, die, faggot, fucking actual room temperature IQ fucking retarded faggot nigger retard.
>>741828973Only the chosen few understand this.
>>741804770You can just ask grok for things like that. Or gemini. Or something else. Works every time 90% of the time.
>>741803456>This is why we gatekeep.No you don't, you make "install troonix" threads 24/7 that are actually tech support generals.
>>741805442Only if you assume that console = PC, which you can do, but I never would. Like I'd pick the PC I had 10 years ago over a PS5pro.
>>741811767They did not abandon CS2, TF2 is 20 years old and for a game this old it's still getting a lot of love, even if it's not much in absolute numbers. They are working on Deadlock, they're also keeping Dota 2 running. They're only ~300 people, they're doing alright.
>>741806262You and disagree with someone who is wrong even if the steam cube has bad value. Focus on truth rather than who the truth is supporting or attacking.
>>741815901How can you do proper business if you aren't fucking the people you're dealing with?
>>741804426>gfx1200It's over for gayben.
>>741801938Normalfags love gaming in the living room.
Valve shills are pulling the exact same copes applefags were using years ago
>>741806262>shit and berrate your overlord masters like a fucking screaming bug>get squashed for being annoying>"who could have expected this would happen?"
>>741842363Last I checked iPhones were still a fashion status and Apple recently released a budget Macbook that has fucking trashed chromebooks or other laptops that had decades to get their shit togetherget FUCKED
>>741804104>>741804376how often u masturbate there
>>741827416They're right. Making a shit product that only can survive because you're burning your money to prop it up doesn't make sense. The solution is to make something better, not to subsidize it.
Then you pay $1400 for the steam machine and this is what you get
>>741801716I don't own a tv
>>741801716I have a $60 Dell in my living room with a $30 RX 550. Sometimes I stream my main PC to it when I want to play some modern slopa on the couch with a controller. I mostly use it to watch pirated movies and play PS2 games.
>>741801716I just wall mounted my PC in the living room.Not my pic, but it looks roughly like this except the tv is much bigger.
>>741802406Isn't USB-C almost better then every other type of cable, even specialized cables like hdmi and ethernet are worse then USB-C at doing the only thing they can do
>>741826692There’s no point stating your opinion here. This place is infested with basement dwelling orcs. They love playing with their Ninti and their Personal Porn-puters with an almost dogmatic fervor.
Valve drones
>>741845882How do you clean dust with this setup? In a couple of days, everything will be covered in dust and impossible to clean.
>>741845882>aio directly on the woodEeehhhh?
>>741801938Why wouldn't my pc be in the living room of my house?
>>741846301Apparently having a PC in your living room is too much freedoms and the police will shoot you
>>741846134Wrong.Your PC accumulates dust specifically because it sits on a surface where dust collects, whether that's the floor or a desk. The fans draw in the dust that accumulates on that surface, and once it's inside, it has no way to get back out. It essentially works like a vacuum cleaner.A wallmounted PC doesn't really have that problem. It's open, so there are no possible airflow issues. It doesn't suck in surrounding dust because there is no buildup on any surface nearby; the only dust present is the shit suspended in the air, which very slowly settles on that small area of components attached to the wall, sure.But you wouldn't believe how little dust it gets compared to a standard rig.When it comes to my setup in particular, the fans are angled and blow air directly across the other components, so the small amount of dust that does settle on the GPU (and everything else) is almost completely swept away on its own.Over the course of five years or something, I've only needed to clean it once, around six months ago. Since then, dust accumulation has been zero. It looks exactly the same as it did on the day I took it apart and cleaned it.
>>741804426Ahh, that's the stuff.
>>741801716I'm not rich enough to own a living room
>>741801716>your rebuttal?Fuck oldfags and richfags>buy metal filaments covered in plastic for cable management>suddenly shopkeepers start hiding it product in the back of the boxesI know you is (((you)))
>>741801716Skill issue
>>741824810....you are aware Steam Machine has 2 USB2 ports on its rear, right? Granted the expectation is your mouse & keyboard would occupy those ports.
