Two North American retailers are refusing to sell Grand Theft Auto VI until there is a physical version with a physical disc instead of a digital download code.Are they based for supporting consumers or cringeworthy for rejecting the profit maximizing practices of 2K / Rockstar?
>>741806606cring
Physical is always superior and most who says otherwise are irony poisoned contrarian faggots
Base
the jew is mad because the bulk of their money is from used games
>>741806606Wait, what's stopping you from using the download code and returning the "game"? If they don't have a special exception for codes-in-a-box, couldn't you get away with stealing the game?
margins must be super thin and yet rockstar of david demands retail space, concerning...
>>741806852They don't allow returns for code only games
>>741806723>physical is superiorYou couldn't pay me to use a fucking disc. When I wanna play my games I click play on steam and go. Why would I wamt to go to a shelf, find the game, eject it put the new one in then boot it up. Not to mention the requirements of storage, the risk of natural hazards etc. Stop being retarded for once in your life.
>>741806986>Stop being retarded for once in your life.Physician, heal thyself.
>>741806986if only we could pay you to kill yourself instead retard>>741806606at least post the fucking retailers op
>>741806986>steam
>>741806986Based. I haven't had a disc drive in my PC for over a decade.
>>741807112>>741807710>>741807731Seethe more normalfags. Physical is dead digital is superior.
>>741807821I disagree.
>>741806606Digital is the future no matter how hard people complain.The PS6 is going to be completely digital, just wait.
>>741807821I have never bought a digital copy of any game on console and I never will.
>>741807956I don't care about your opinion. Digital is objectively better. Convenience above all else. The thing that gets me into the game as fast as possible is what matters most. The thing that requires no maintenance is the better choice. The thing that needs no storage is superior. Physikeks only wanna jerk off their shitty plastic box collection. I actually play the games.
>>741806723>buy physical >look inside >half the game is locked behind the 50GB day 1 patch discs are antiquated
>>741806606OK, so who are the two retailers? I think its kind of lame myself but its not like we didn't see it going in this direction anyway. But its fucking over people who want physical releases, mostly for collecting because anyone else is buying though their console.
>>741807821not when companies pass on the cost of storage to you. which surprise, is way overpriced right now. legit kys, we smarter beings need the air more than you do
>>741808112I disagree.
>>741806606can a Blu-ray even fit a 200gb game?
>>741808218>pass the price of storageI guess your living space is just free? You're not paying to store the disc it just magically disappears when you're not playing it huh. Funny thing is you can uninstall and reinstall anytime. Only an issue if you have third world internet.
Those two american retailers are "Video Games Plus" and "Loot Box Gaming" btwLiteral whos in the grand scheme of things
>>741806606Archive link to the actual article instead of clickbait OP-faggot headline:https://archive.ph/LF7jK>>741808175>Videog Games Plus and Loot Box GamingI have never heard of them, so I assume these are a couple mom-and-pop local gaming stores that Shitaku is just using for a clickbait article. Complete nothingburger.
>>741808435Fucking kotaku
>>741806606cool, respect
Still don't understand how the "game that's fun to fuck around on doing pass the controller while drinking/smoking with the boys" game became an absolute cultural phenomenon.
>>741807821retard
Not defending jewish bullshit but can you even fit a 300gb unoptimized modern slopgame on a disc?
>>741808435>Ignore all criticism! You must be loyal goycattle and consume the woke and DEI-infested goyslop!Holy cope.
>>741806606>>741808435>Videog Games Plus and Loot Box Gaming
>>741808334The PS5 discs can hold 100GB, so you'd probably only need 2-3 disks. It's not actually unrealistic to expect them to make a physical version; they just obviously don't want to do that because it costs money. GTA5 actually came on 7 DVDs lmao.
>>741807731The day Steam revokes all my licenses, I’ll eat crow and go back to emulating Nintendo ROMs.
>>741808818No one is defending Rockstar ITT. Kotaku's article citing two literally-who small retailers is still stupid clickbait. A less sensational article would be:>Most Major Retailers are Fine with GTA6 Being Digital-Onlyrather than framing it as if GameStop or someone people actually know is refusing to carry GTA6.
Just means no asshole is getting the game a week early and ruining it for everyone
How about you boycott it because it’s woke and anti law enforcement?
>>741808675No, but you can just put it on separate discs and install all the contents of each to a drive. That's how most physical copies work and have for a long time now. Actually loading assets off a bluray disc is painfully slow (and loud) by comparison.
>>741806852Refunds aren't allowed. Don't like the game or it can't run for some reason? Too bad. Money stolen.
They're stupidly just trying to glom onto shit-stirring on social media for algorithmic cred. They're doing this long before its going to matter and its not like they're going to push for any actual changes because its the same to them. Discs are outdated nonsense, you want to change things for the players, focus on digital resale.
>>741808956I'm making vast collections of roms and such, and I have a system for backup/redundancy. When Valve goes-to-shit so will everything else. And I got a feeling that it will be soon. My ass is taking no chances. If I have to cancel my ISP tomorrow and go full rawdog then I need to make sure I'll always be able to play vidya
>>741806852Don't do this. It hurts retailers and not Jewstar.
>>741806986this fag doesn't even own a pc
>>741806606why the fuck do they even sell digital copies at retail stores, makes no fucking sense at all. kill chinks.
>>741806986>I own nothing and I am happy
>>741809805idk, it's the dumbest fucking thing. Walmart, Target, etc could save millions if they told these gaming companies to fuck off. Actually, what they should do is charge them even more for shelf space.
The day physical games die out is the day I stop playing video games. It’s not like PS6 will have anything besides remakes and remasters anyway, just like the PS5.
>>741808818>support kotakuYes.
>>741809981Yep, devs know and we know that the only games that actually hit in this era are the classics, so remakes are really the only thing you can make that is surefire money in the bank. Especially when all your devs are political types that like to wreck shit
>>741809981You'll buy a PS6. Even if it goes fully digital you'll still buy it like a good little cuck, because Sony's got you trained good. You'll probably even make excuses in threads defending the switch away from physical, because defending your corporate master is more important than the scraps of dignity you have left.
>>741806986we should kill you for being an idiot.
>>741806606Physical retailers make most of their money from used games
>>741809750>>741809860>>741810375Every response is just some generic reply seething. Not a single mention of physical benefits, because you realize there is none.
>>741806606I don't get it. Two retailers are announcing that they're gonna go bankrupt on purpose?
didn't like IV didn't like Vdon't care for VI, you guys can fight over the next goytoy
>>741806606Americans buy games then return empty cases to Amazon, it's such a common scam now I wouldn't sell digital games either. Sell the gift cards, verify they are active and no refunds, ever. I used to go to outlet stores and find stacks of empty game cases, presumably sold in lots salvage lots due to return scams.
>>741810696The benefit is ownership. Its pretty self explanatory.
>>741811217Yea now compare how many games have been lost on steam to lack of "ownership" vs physical games destroyed in a natural disaster, stolen, rot, etc. Then tell me which medium is safer.
>>741811669nice whataboutismenjoy your licenses
>>741812179Complaining about licenses is whataboutism to begin with. Concession accepted.
>>741812287No, it isn't. Physical games = ownershipDigital games = licensesHope that clears it up for you.
Here's what no one is mentioning>Why the fuck do you need a retailer when you're selling digital copies only?Like what is the point of having a storefront if some asshole is gonna expect me to sell literal air to them? Just turn me into a numbers station at that point.
>>741812354Now explain why you don't like licenses. I'll wait.
>>741806606We can't go down this path I like buying and selling games on mercari!!!
>>741806606the game on the disc wont be the same game after a few patchesunless they want to have a disc per patch
>>741811669You're confused. It has literally nothing to do with permanence or avoidance of loss. I'm not sure why you pivoted there as a counter point.
>>741810842Loot Box seems to be a used mail order shop from Delaware.They have Gravity Rush PS4 on their homepage as one of their current best sellers.
>>741812505He didn't say he didn't like licenses. Stop waiting.
>>741806852And that's probably why shops don't want to deal with it.
>>741812607Yes "he" did. The implication that you like physical over digital because of "ownership" shows a negative bias towards licenses, or it wouldn't have been brought up to begin with as a reply. Now answer the question.
>>741812539That's not how video games since the 7th generation, games install off the HDD and the disc just acts as an offline DRM check, games stopped playing off the disc halfway through the PS3's life
>>741812505I don't mind licenses, I just know the difference. I have many on my Steam, Playstation, and Nintendo accounts. For certain games I prefer owning it physically. Other games I don't mind having as a digital license.
>>741812354physical games are licenses nowadays the only true ownership is an offline maintained game, which outside of niche things like gog and itch is only achievable through piracy and DRM circumventing
>Kotaku screencap thread
>>741812720>Yes "he" didNo he didn't. Full stop. You're wrong. Accept it.
>>741806986fags here will seethe at you but I’ve had this conversation with physical fags before and their smoking gun argument for why physical is better than a DRM free digital copy is that you can sell it. Which I think is funny
>>741812775Not really, no
>>741812775>physical games are licenses nowadaysYou have no clue what you're talking about. All media has always been licensed and always will be.
>>741806986bet you can't do five jumping jacks
>>741812850yes, really. physical games are beholden to the servers which you do not own >>741812925but the old licences were complete releases that functioned without Internet or additional download
>>741812354cartridge were also a linseced
If they sell discs then they sell discs.
>>741806986Eat ze bug!
>>741813006>physical games are beholden to the serversNo, they aren't lol
>>741806606there's still brick and mortar outlets where people buy games? in 2026?
>>741813074Boot up cod4 on ps3 let's go play then
>>741813030If you want to be semantic about, sure. The entire game is on that cartridge, however. I can still put it into my system and play it in its entirety.
>>741813006>but the old licences were complete releases that functioned without Internet or additional downloadThat's the difference between a service and a good, not ownership and non ownership.
You thought you were going to resell this game so Rockstar get no more money? Think again.
>>741806852when i was a kid i used to go to stores and write down the product keys from copies of Starcraft because it was just right there on the back of the jewel case
>>741813150Just booted up goldeneye 64 and it runs just fine
I highly doubt there will be a physical version of GTA6 with the full game on the disc, as it will be over 50gb.
>>741813236Notice how you ignored what I asked and chose an example that fits your narrative, strange.
>>741806606>Are they based for supporting consumers or cringeworthy for rejecting the profit maximizing practices of 2K / Rockstar?They're based even though it's probably for ulterior motives. The main issue is GTA 6 releasing as only a digital/code in a box will (just like the Switch 2 Game Keycards) outsource the storage expense to it's audience. Which in the current environment of expensive storage will fuck over a lot of people.There's also the fact a lot of people will go in this blind and if this turns out like another Cyberpunk 2077 situation or the campaign/ story isn't good. People will not have any recourse in getting a refund or some of their money back in the used market. I'm personally not touching this with a 10ft pole unless it gets good views by regular people. Because the professional reviewers will definitely be biased.Also if you didn't already get your 1-2 TB ssd for you console by last year. Good fucking luck.
>>741806723>Physical is always superi->Oh shit, let me install day-one patch>and most who says otherwise are>Now I have to install updates, great>are irony poisoned contrarian faggo->Need to install game date awesomeKeep deluding yourself, physicalcuck
>>741806606>just SURVIVE 2024 SURVIIIIIVE, GTA 6 will save everything and everyone>GTA 6 preorders are announced, it's cutting off retail and nobody ever will actually own GTA 6 and it costs $100LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741806940Doesn't that violate consumer law? Is that not why Valve was sued by Australia that time?
>>741806606Even if they did give in to this retarded demand (they won't) it will just be a disk with like a 200kb activation key that just opens the online store and begins downloading the rest of the game automatically.
>>741813150Holy shit you're retarded. I can still play cod4 on PS3 in its entirety.
>>741813295Notice how you lied. Not strange, expected.
>>741813074they are. entire content updates and DLC releases are digital only and will not be available to download once the download servers are off the only way to guarantee access to these is an offline maintained version
>>741813392>content updates and DLCNot needed for most games, and many definitive editions contain all of that stuff on disc. Try again.
>>741806723Discs used to be superior when games were on disc and could be played with no/minimal patches/installs
>>741806606GameStop is in shambles
>>741807821>steam renter calling people normalfags HOLY KEK
>>741806986>lighting strikes your house and causes a power surge>your SSD corrupts all your gameswooooow
>>741813460I'm just glad we agree physical is superior when that isn't the case.
On console, no disc=no buy Yes even GTA6. I waited however long to play it on pc
I download installers from the internet and sometimes put them on flash drives (that's a physical carrier) just for fun
>>741813498Yes, you are in fact a normalfag if you buy physical. >>741813506>redownload them on my backup, load from cloud, not a single dollar lost
>>741813526*it=GTA5
>>741813457>Not needed for most gamesand the games where it is needed? go play the release version of cyberpunk and tell me physical is better>many definitive editions contain all of that stuff on disc. Tryand again, not all there are no exceptions when you own the full version (digitally) in an offline form
>>741813328use your brain and think anon, do you really think a retailer is going to allow themselves to get scammed for potentially millions of dollars over a consumer law? are you stupid or something? do you really think any lawsuit where a customer can own a product on their console and return an empty case would stand up in court?
>>741813460discs were always ass compared to carts unless you like staring at these for 15 minutes
>>741808435>>Videog Games Plus and Loot Box Gaming
>>741813328you are only legally obligated to honor returns and refunds if the product is defective or if not doing so violates a publicly stated policy. if gaystop wants to say "you bought it how you saw it" and not take your return for a functional product, OR even if they state "this controller might not fucking work" and then it doesn't, they aren't obligated to refund you. same with any type of retail business anywhere. this is only in the United States and anywhere else with similar statutes of course, and will change as soon as it inconveniences some trillionaire corpo but I don't think that'll be anytime soon
>>741808675Part of the reason they are 300gb unoptimized modern slopgames are like that because they don't have to fit it on a disk for shipment.
>>741813848i was surprised when GTAV Enhanced came out it was only 90 something gigs installed compared to the 120 something gigs that was the legacy version
>>741806606i kinda get it, why even sell a case if it's empty, if all you're doing is selling a code on a piece of paper, then why even go to the store to buy it vs the console's online store the only thing physical stores have going for them is that they sell some semblance of tangible ownership. a disk you can stick in your console and at least plays some version of the game on its own.
>>741806986physical is better for the games that matter. but real chads use a mix of both digital and physical. physical games end up being cheaper than digital a lot of the times. the game will always be safe; all i need is the console and the game. technically speaking you can lose your digital license to the game at any time they decide to do that, for whatever, and multiple different reasons. physical just can't be taken away from you. i have sold games for decent prices too. sometimes i reevaluate if i really want to keep a game, and sell it. it's the freedom. also, i'm not fat and lazy so i like to browse my nice collection and a lot of game covers look cool. i'm not trying to convince you that physical is better, i'm just telling you that you're a subhuman digicuck basically. the only type of media that always should be digital, are video entertainment and music, which can easily be pirated. but i don't like pirating games. i have way more incentive to put time into games that i actually paid for with my money. although i have a hacked 3DS and some chink retro device. and i preserve ROMs on my PC. I'm not against emulation. I'm just a chad with the most objectively correct opinions.
>>741808818>Rightoids are in favor of rockstar's scummy practicesI mean it's expected since you're all slaves to corpos, just didn't expect you to make it so blatant.Forever Physical, forever ownership, forever SKG.
What retailers? So I know to support them.
>>741806606which retailers? ocean state job lot and ollie's?
>>741806606Based retailer.>>741806723This.
>>741813328>i'd like to return my 50 dollar roblox card, thank you. i no longer need ityou can't return codes. it's been that way for awhile. it would have been impossible for retailers to sell any pc games without getting scammed in australia otherwise once they all started including one time activation codes. you buy a code and that's the end of it,
>>741806852that's how i got cod4 for free on steamthe cd key was readable in settings so i wrote it down and refunded the game
Consoles need to implement USB's as the next thing instead of disks
