why are indie devs so insistent on adding a narratively heavy romance plot in their story when theyre just not good at it? Is it because they can't come up with anything better?
>>741811718>why are indie devsIt's only tranny fox
I hated the Ferris wheel shit a few chapters back but I actually did like the lake scene between the two of them ,so I guess Toby got better at writing his lesbian school girl fetish
>>741811718My schizo theory is he wants to make the main route so bad people will actively look for ways to break it (ie the weird route) and he knows how much we hate the lesbian stuff.
>>741811718because it makes their dicks hard while writing it
I'm not disappointed, but i don't like it that much.I always thought Noelle being a lesbian was fun and made her interactions with Susie funny, but i always saw Susie as a Tomboy who had feelings for Kris, and would only flirt with Noelle to tease her. But well, that's the direction Toby is going for it seems, Susie has feelings for Noelle.
Glad I dropped the game after chapter 1 since I just assumed that it would take a eternity to get made/go to shit during the long development time and if it turned out good in the end I could be surprised but this is really sounding like it is just following along on homestuck's tracks.
>>741811718Because their fandoms dont care how bad a romance is being written, any romance is good romance for them and their agendas and they'll reward the devs accordingly by making a shit ton of fan art that'll help the game's growth.
>>741811962Kris creampies both.
>>741811718Romance is the easiest and most surefire way in fiction to entrance the viewer
I always knew that freak Toby would find a way to ruin things way more than I could've possibly imagined. Truly a sign from God that yuri ruins everything.
>>741811718Toby has always been a mentally ill tumblr yurifag.
My theory is that toby fucked up the entire pacing of the story by releasing this game in chapters. Noelle dies in Chapter 6, the fountain will be in the hospital.Weird route should have been discovered AFTER people beat the regular story, weren't happy with it and then try to break the game to save her, no matter how far they have to go.But noooo, somebody needed the cash early and stay relevant as the "mysterious genius" for a decade so he butchered his own game and have terminally online "theorists" keep hyping his games release year after year.This chapter was comedy filler at best and a lingering cliffhanger for 2 years at worst. FUCK segmented releases!
Y'all just mad because the Jews got another win under their belts and there's genuinely nothing you can do about itKill yourselves or continue to persist as a goyslave, your choice
I enjoyed and encouraged Susie and Noelle romance
>>741812674troon
This chapter sucked and not even in a outrage way it was just a wet fart from a retarded kid across the room
>>741811718Kids like you will play it anyway.
>>741812956How am I troon? Noelle is gay. Susie is available. Why not ship?
[I voted Berdly as the king]
>>741812972Honestly, in a weird way this chapter kind of gives me hope. Seeing that even Toby Fox can release dogshit that people hate makes me feel like maybe it isn't totally pointless to try and make a game myself. Maybe Deltarune isn't an impossible monolith that dominates the indie scene and siphons all interest, maybe I can make something that people like just as much or even more than Deltarune.
>>741811718Man... this chapter sure killed all the momentum Deltarune had going for it, at least in my opinion.I don't even care about following the rest of the story, seeing how Toby is fully spite fuelled, the story will end up being about the player having to accept he isn't supposed to be the main character.
>>741813397Go for it nigga. Whether or not you succeed is purely down to luck anyway.
>>741813146troon for sure
>>741813397>maybe I can make something that people like just as much or even more than Deltarune.
>>741813584Same here. At this point, the Weird Route is basically the only thing I'm still excited to see.But yeah, this was pretty disappointing. I'm expecting something that's ultimately going to feel pretty lukewarm compared to everything that's been discussed here, even without getting into schizo theories. What about Dess? FRIEND? Roots? And that's after we literally got Gerson right before this.Welp. Guess I'll just wait for Chapter 7.
>>741811718Fuck me, the trash time trio is kicking my ass
>>741813765He said 'maybe' you crab bucket faggot.
>>741811718>indie dev>just have been in the market for around 10 yearsat what point you stop being an indie dev?
So where the hell is the egg this time?
>>741811718Anyone found what the secret room in Mike's room is still about? It feels like there's something there but I'm not sure
THIS IS A FUCKING RETCONNOELLE AND KRIS WEREN'T TALKING TO EACH OTHER BY THE TIME SUSIE ARRIVED IN HOMETOWNDO NOT BELIEVE THE DOG'S LIES
>>741811718The worst part about it is that it doesn't fucking MATTER. This romance DOES NOT MATTER TO THE PLOT in any meaningful way. It feels like it's there just to be there, a separate story from the main one. It is solely relevant thanks to the weird route and Noelle's family connection with the knight, but again, that is wholly thanks to the character Noelle herself, not her relationship with Susie. The actual plot ramifications in relation to the entire dark world and various mysteries are minimal in comparison for how much screentime it takes up, so it just ends up feeling like sloggy filler anytime it comes up. Most importantly, most importantly, the characters aren't actually CHANGING in any meaningful way from any developments in their romance, it literally feels like watching two people gab aimlessly and stumble half the time, which, yeah, it's """""realistic""""" for a depiction of two teenagers, but for a story it's fucking meaningless and boring. There is no setup or payoff beyond the insular b plot of their romance, so it feels like a separate parasite on the main story instead of something that is naturally integrated. Toby doesn't know how to write romance at all.
>>741812674You should kill yourself
the real love interest is Carol
>>741812674Why do you hate Kris?
>>741814503If KrisxCarol is endgame I will retract every bad thing I said about Toby, but I know for a fact it's not.
>>741814134The hard pivot to suselle is fucking jarring. I at least expected it to be dragged out till the end but they get together almost out of nowhere, like there's at least one full chapter of character development missing.
>yfw you didn't buy and play past Chapter 2
>>741814507>intentionally forgetting the hockey stick sceneThat little faggot deserves everything he gets and more
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>>7418117181 year for 2-3 hours of fucking nothing.He's currently living in Japan right? I'm getting those nuclear codes now, they're about to get a third.
>>741811718What could have been done to prevent this?
>>741814732>I hate this guy and want to kill him!>doesn't actually kill himMan up baby boy
>>741814794Now that we know Susie was aiming exclusively for Noelle from the start and Kris was just a stepping stone, nothing.
>>741814794>lives with a whore mom>dad is a cuck>brother is in college doing and fucking Molly>his new best friend is sidelining him to scizzor with his childhood friendIt's Kris' moral duty to burn down the whole town
Kris starting to regret all the times saving Susie's life...
>>741815182I don't even care that she's getting on with Noelle, it's the damn blatant sidelining Kris is getting from his supposed "best friend".Weird route better have Kris go absolute psycho mode and he ends up killing Susie in that path.
So how much screentime does suselle hog?Hate it with whole my heart, but I saw the writing on the wall and knew it was coming, but I liked the rest regardless.I just hoped that it would just be teased untill the end of the game without it being super intrusive.Does susie now not shut the fuck up about noelle?
>>741811718>still sprinkles the chapter with little Krusie bait moments despite the fact that its beyond overToby is such a spineless coward. I hate him now immeasurably.The entire rest of the game is gonna be continually dragged down by a forced romance worse than fucking Alphys and Undyne, and he'll continue to insert meaningless shipbait to fuel fake discussion while he sits at home, jacks off with his fucked up hands, and thinks of more ways he can rehash the previous chapters.
Can I actually talk about the game here?I just bought the MysteryKey, since I assume I need it to access the secret boss. Where do I use it?Also, I thought the sunset scene was cute
>>741815524Its legit like 30% of the entire chapters dialogue
Hey look guys! It's Kris! Everyone's second best friend! They're so convenient as someone you can call and talk to when the person you care most about isn't available! And so forgiving, no matter what you've done to them, Kris will always be willing to stand up for you!Mom forgot about you and made you suffer while you thought she got kidnapped? Dad's a broke loser who's coping hard? Bro left? Abandonment issues? Childhood trauma and possible self-blaming over someone dying or disappearing? Prophecy might be hinting at your own death? Damn bro, that sucks! But hey, you're a tough lad or lass! Chin up champ! Anyway, I've got a date, see you later! Oh, you wanted to talk? Uhhh... hey, I'm sure Ralsei is a really good listener, why don't you go talk to him? If not, you can go talk to Sans, he's like, your new stepfather or something right?
>>741813692You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. I'm male, straight, and secure in my sexuality. I think its more likely you are projecting and are probably wearing womens clothing right now.
>>741815524Around an hour if you don't skip festival stuff. Note that you can cuck Noelle out of things but I don't think it's going to matter on the long run.>t. took a break for looking at 4chan thread right after entering this chapter's dark world.
>>741815457Practically speaking aside from ineffectively trying to resist the SOUL before finally getting forced out of bed by evening Kris is seemingly effectively gone now. all you get is "*" when looking at shit and you can't even sprint. Kris lost... Soul and Noelle WON.
>>741813397toby had the momentum of the homestuck fanbase, you're just another indie dev playing the indie game roulette wheel. make designs people can jack off to and put in shipping, that's all I can tell you
>>741815815Thise that hate yuri should just be gay.
>>741811919Based if true, his only way to turn it all around is to make the main route an insufferable lesson on "nice guys finish last" and bring the actual story home entirely in the Weird Route.
>>741814312What gets me is that Susie and Noelle have been actually spending time together (and not just staring at each other while fantasizing about romance) for 3 days, 2 from Noelle's perspective, and yet Susie's suddenly thinking about Noelle all the time when she barely noticed her before ch2, and of course they both have dramatic declarations.I know this is Sudden Relationships: The Game, Kris and Susie were ride and die after one day, but at least they went on a huge adventure together. Nothing happened in ch4 that would justify Susie's feelings escalating so suddenly, If it was about Carol or Cyberworld, you'd think Susie would start acting like she's head over heels for Noelle before ch5.I dunno. I could see Susie/Noelle mattering to the plot before. In ch4 there were some implications Noelle may like Susie because she reminds her of Dess, there was the whole deal with her pushing Kris aside for Susie, you could make a case for her treating her crush on Susie as escapism and a way to cope with her sister disappearing and her friendship with Kris falling apart. But the festival segment was so sugary and rushed, I can't treat this relationship seriously. The only thing I can maybe work with would be Noelle saying she doesn't want to run away anymore, Susie being her way to cope.
>>741815524the game legit stops you in the middle of doing shit to have the recurring darkners drag off susie to give her tips on dating noellei'm not fucking kidding, this shit is intrinsically linked into the story now, you can't just enjoy the story with suselle showing up sometimes you MUST enjoy the ship or be pushed out
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>>741811718I think Suselle is ASS! Susie and Noelle don't fit together like at all and this chapter's pre-Dark World segment did nothing to convince me otherwise, quite the opposite. I guess yuritards gonna yuritard. It's a shame you have to wait for like 2 years to see whatever Weird Route has in store, but it's probably gonna be another case of "wow, it's nothing!".
>Kris we need to bring Noelle along on our adventures because it's going to get even more dangerous. Even though from the little time we saw with her in chapter two she doesn't know how to actually fight as opposed to Berdly who has shown to actually be capable enough to stand his ground from our fight with him.The yurislop is going full force in this chapter and it just seems like it's going to continue
>>741816363The weird route is gonna end up as the only redeemable thing when this whole game is viewed as a collective piece, aside from people being nostalgic over Spamton or Tenna. That is unless Toby decides to punish you, yes (YOU), the player, for interfering with homosexuality.
>>741816498>That is unless Toby decides to punish you, yes (YOU), the player, for interfering with homosexuality.And he probably will KEKAROOOOO, how DARE you not permit Kris to be cucked? (YOU) are NOT the main character!
Kris will watch from the chair.
>>741816498>UnlessIt's guaranteed at this point unless japs raise up enough stink to force him reconsider his choices aka never ever.
>>741816629Kris has Ralsei
>>741816652The Japs don't and won't care about Deltarune until it's finished, and they'll politely and humbly say "Wow this is just like Bahamut Lagoon"
>>741816498>That is unless Toby decides to punish you, yes (YOU), the player, for interfering with homosexuality.The normal route for 5 already subtly shames you for shipping Krusie so this wouldn't even be surprising anymore
>>741811718>why are indie devs so insistent on adding a narratively heavy romance plot in their story when theyre just not good at itToby is really good at writing NTR stories.
>>741811860How is it a fetish
>>741815815Ralsei cares about you
>>741811860Then you're retarded, because it's trash and done directly at your expense>>741816787Because lesbians aren't real
>>741811718I can't be the only one here who was pissed about Susie and Noelle becoming canon, right? Susie has WAY more chemistry with Kris, plus Susie and Noelle lose all personality and become annoying when together.Also (spoilers for ch 5 normal ending) The fact that Susie ONLY brings up Noelle to face the Knight and not even mentioning the other school kids. Not even BERDLEY, who knows about the dark fountains. Why have him be important in Chapter 2 if he's going to be reduced to a joke. I like Toby's writing but he clearly cares more about the yuri than developing more Lightner characters.>>741816446Exactly.
>chuds are ANGRY about the yurithe whole chapter was boring and filler, i dont care about the epi
>picBest part of the game so far, no doubt about it. The music for this section was awesome! I'm a little bit bummed that the weird route version of Chapter 5 was so short but I'm certain Chapter 7 Side B will more than make up for it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5222_-4pEaY
>>741815117>lives with a whore mom>dad is a cuck >brother is in college doing and fucking Molly>his new best friend is sidelining him to scizzor with his childhood friendAnd Toby isn't done with that poor guy yet. He'll humiliate and cuck him even more in the next chapter. You'll see.
>>741816872Ralsei is hiding shit and is clearly at odds with Kris in some way that makes them truly connecting and reaching an understanding with each other an impossibility for the time being. Ralsei literally cannot be the emotional outlet for Kris, because ultimately they're rivals in some way that has to be revealed yet and they know it even if they're hiding it.Kris is completely, utterly alone. He found an outlet in Susie and showing her the stuff that used to make him happy and now she's made it clear she wasn't as reliable and stalwart as she sold herself as and will just take all that stuff and hand it off to Noelle.
>>741816872He doesn't actually, Ralsei's only concern towards Kris is to placate him, he's fulfilling his "duty", we don't actually know what are Ralsei's real desires besides his mission.
>>741811718you guys are going to be real upset when ralsei transitions next chapter
Wait, this chapter proves Sans is from Undertale
>>741817494>The card isn't of anyone important to him and was just some trash he got from them as a jokeCool
If nothing else, I am thankful that the chapter was so shit, I wont be strung along anymore unlike with ch3+4. There is no coming back from this, ch6+ will be 100% absolute hot garbage
>>741817692>In the end>It didn't even matter
I think something is wrong with my chapter 5
>>741814794Embrace the goat eternal femboy darkener
you guys waited years for something that didn't even last an afternoon and basically puts you in charge of piloting a sullen loser around people who alternate between using him and hoping he just goes and dies
>>741817494>the fucking 'don't forget' card was shown to be made this chapter>finally cementing which way the UTDR connection goes>and it's completely overshadowed by suselle's bullshit
That little jab at the player expecting somthing cool right before the Mew Mew fight pissed me off. Oh what you expected an actually cool secret boss? Woody? Apple Girlington? Asgore's discarded left shoe? No you get a shitty weaboo remix of a fight you already played in Undertale where you play the quirky dating simluator so all the trannies in the chat can do a fortnite dance to the epic anime reference. The song is dogshit aswell wtf..
>She was used upThe Thorn Ring>You were used upKris' death in the lake>Screen cutting to black in the minigameInsert Chapter 7 Side-B>Kris returning on his ownThe Player returns with the Vessel we obtain during the good ending of Chapter 7 to end the whole possession thing. we then go back to Chapter 5 to PROCEED>Reuniting with Susie and RalseiWe essentially skinsuit Kris and lie to Susie's face about where Noelle went. We hop into the Dark World, make the Twisted Sword, and that's when we murder Susie and Ralsei.>The dungeon encounterThis shows mini Kris killing a bunch of enemies, which is meant to represent us, the Player, now massacring every Darkner there is to build our LV
>>741811718Eclipse Town is going to be a million times better than Deltarune
>>741815848>I'm I-I-I'm-I-I'll-I'm-ACKtroon
>>741811718You seriously NEED to kill yourself if you self insert in any of these games or get invested in romance in general on videogames because you self insert as the mc. Please do it for the human race
>>741817909no refunds
>>741811718I personally think these types of games are gay and their audience go in that way too.Happy pride month.
>>741815572Look for a pink door at the top of the castle.>>741814134I didn't have interest in doing the weird route but after this revelation I may do it out of spite. Noelle's a far more interesting character in that route anyway. Fuck Suselle.>>741816046This actually makes the romance worse. They've known each other fully for a few days and now they're all lovey dovey. At least Krusie sorta makes sense given everything they've been through within these 3 days.
>>741817869So, is this still relevant?
I'm doing everything I can to make Kruise canon, but I know it's in vain. I rode the Ferris Wheel with her, I wrote Kris as King and Susie as Queen for the ballot, then showed it to Noelle. It's so tiring. Knowing my choices don't matter. Fuck that stupid smug little white dog. You got me Toby. I'm pissed off you win
>>741817909It's also similar to how the Mikes shit on the player for theorizing about cool shit rather than the dogshit ideas Toby or his gang of trannies has in their heads.
>>741817958>Derivative Faith ripoff>Pixel "Art" changes pixel ratios between different objects/charactersHOOOOOLY SLOPBuy a ad
>>741818212>Chapter 6>"I don't want to play with you any more"Extremely relevant. Absolutely spot on, in fact.
>played it with friends watching>went out of my way to do all the choices which allowed Kris to be a gremlin>"NO LET SUSIE AND NOELLE GO ON THE WHEEL"
>>741816071RIP. Games dead Jim.
HEY GUYS THE "WORLD REVOLVES" YOU DIDN'T FORGET RIGHT HAHA GET IT "DON'T FORGET" REMEMBER ALL THIS STUFF OKAY
>>741816992Speaking from experience, they unfortunately are
>>741818212>no one died>no rumbling>knight showed up for 2 seconds>noelle didn't do shit in the normal route (and in the weird route just fucking drowned with nothing angel related)>all the flowers are still in containers so whatever was being implied by the flower planting didn't happenit's time to admit this guy just got lucky with chapter 4
>>741811718
>>741818401you forgot to mention every flower yelling about their OMEGA MOVE GET IT BECAUSE OMEGA FLOWEY???? OH LOOK HERE'S OMEGA FLOWERY HAHA JUST LIKE UNDERTALE REMEMBER UNDERTALE?????
Anyone who's complaining about "chemistry" or Suselle being "unrealistic" doesn't know what it's like to be in a friend group of over-hormonal retards who will backstab each other at the slightest whiff of sex
Ok I'm going to go see what Reddit is saying. I'm sure they will absolutely love this chapter and think it's the greatest thing and love Suelle being pushed hard
>>741818526>no one diedLake>noelle didn't do shit in the normal route (and in the weird route just fucking drowned with nothing angel related)Lake again, she mentioned the wings.Tho I do agree the rumbling is missing.
>>741818642"As a proud lesbian ((deranged tranny)) I am just loving the representation of me and my girlfriend ((also a tranny)) so far. Trans rights!"
>Lesbians>You don't have to be able to birth to be a motheris toby nigger going trans, or was he always one?
>>741811718Isn't it crazy that chapter 1 was released in 2018?That's 8 years, I imagine the first concept of the story Toby had planned was VERY different from the way things are currently going.
>The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy.Wait, so who the fuck was jealous? Where's the fucking charred garden?
>>741818830What the hell are you talking about? The flower shop is up in flames at the end of the chapter when you seal the fountain. That's why Kris and Susie run away in such a hurry.
>>741818809>2018Feels like a fucking lifetime ago.
>>741818809Chapter 1 was basically just a teaser, we had to wait 3 years for Chapter 2 after that. Though also keep in mind that this is apparently the story he wanted to tell since 2013 or so.
>>741818642Watch anyone who criticizes the pushing of Suselle get downvoted to hell. They would enjoy watching paint dry if they were told the paint was gay.
It's clear Spamton was a fluke Toby doesn't know why he worked at all and just thinks putting in meme shit or undertale references into the secret boss will make people like them.
>>741811718Nah no thanks fuck this jewish cuck gameInterracial cuckold is implied too which is what makes it even worseSusie = purple (closest color to black. Associated with black "pimp" culture) masculine could have futa BBCNoelle = Deer associated in western culture with innocence (virginity?) with snow motifs (white? black on white??)Snowgrave code for white extinction?It's just obvious someone is paying them to do this and all the trannies lap it up
>>741818809I wish he never made anything past chapter 1. What we got today was cancer
There's something genuinely arousing in the way Noelle confesses how she felt freezing Berdly. How she has the self-awareness to realize how fucked up it is to feel that way but she can't help it. The way she collapses onto her knees and hides her face in her hands in shame. Just look at her face. Purely erotic.
>>741816446>The yurislop is going full force in this chapter and it just seems like it's going to continueIts so on your face that its quite obvious Kris is not pleased with it, and its not what he actually wants.
Fully finished 5 ten minutes agoNORMAL RATING3 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 1WEIRD RATING5 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 1
>>741811718>zoomers upset over romance in a gamelel. though to be fair, this is a known phenomenon and toby should've known his fanbase is mostly zoomers who have no interest in sex or romance
>>741817494>3 smiling peopleSo the weird route is the canon one, nice.In the normal route Susie draws Kris, her, Ralsei and Noelle, while in the weird route she just draws Kris, herself and Ralsei
>>741817986Even more retarded here when deleting your customized self-insert was the first thing the game did
>>741819141Normal1>3>5=2>4Wierd5>2>4>3
>>741819201I know this is just bait, but a bad romance can easily taint something if it's shitty enough.
so whats the current theory about what the end of the prophecy is?
>>741819125uh
>>741818929when the fuck does this happenflowery gets sliced and kris sneaks the paper and seeds from under him then susie comes back in the shopno fire anywhere
>>741819369Trans rights, black lives matter
>>741819445>He didn't finish the route correctly
Clover = Yellow = Woody Woaw
>>741818946Sounds a lot like Todd Howard and Starfield.
>>741819054putting undertale references is all it takes desu. I'm expecting more mixed media crap because it was popular in the TADC movie
Will /v/ now admit that Undertale >> Deltarune?
>/v/ is not one person>all indie devs are the same though
>>741819691Only because they want to fuck kids and not teens
>>741818946>this is apparently the story he wanted to tell since 2013 or soHonestly I can believe that a college-age Tumblrite from that era would have a shitty lesbian romance as part of their imagined magnum opus.
Is Seth female or female (non binary liberal)? Either way I have seriously got to put my peener in her.
>>741811718>telenovela for furriesThe fuck were you expecting lol
>>741819691No, undertale was also ruined by garbage tranny yuri shit
>>741819769the idea is that the player is some outside entity messing with the life of some MC robbing them of agency. mix in liberal amounts of ripping off twin peaks and twin peaks the return and there you go
Crazy to me there's like grown ass adults playing this tween shit.
>>741819790He's a guy.
>>741819881They can ignore the Barney Dino and lesbian fish lady sloppy fucking more easily anon
>>741819897The agency to do what, lol, get used? There's no agency in this story for Kris or the player.
>>741820010Completing undertale's pacifist route requires chaperoning a shitty yuri date just like deltatroon does
>>741811718Notice how the jannies arent deleting deltarune threads because the game turned out to be complete fucking shit LMAO
>>741820151kris is going to kill himself/herself to fix the world
I just fucking realized that the game Toby said was "very similar to his" was not Omori, but YIIK. FUCKING YIIK.>Noelle (figuratively) pulls everyone into her own reality where everyone unconditionally loves her despite the fact that she only really cares for the object of her obsession. Alex (literally) pulls everyone into his own reality where everyone is friends with him despite the fact that he's a huge asshole to them>Neither Noelle nor Alex are fine with accepting reality for what it is exclusive to Weird Noelle>Noelle is obsessed with this person that fits the idea of the "ideal woman" for her (even if it's a stand-in for her dead sister). despite the fact that they have only talked two times as far as she knows, her entire purpose is "i want to chase that dino pussy." Alex is obsessed with a woman (or women) he never met and bases his whole life around her>Michael is determined to get his (DEAD) childhood crush back, even if he has to help completely fuck up reality to do it. Kris is trying to recreate the prophecy in the hopes that he can see Dess again>Nobody cares about Noelle's sister (except Kris) OR Rory's sister (except Michael) because there are more important things going on>Alex and Noelle can both be the harbingers of doom for their reality>Susie is the out-of-place one that creates situations that can change the direction of the prophecy for the better. Chondra is also the out of place one that helps create Original Wins that help repair the fabric of reality>Ralsei is black and everyone loves him. Claudio is black and everyone loves him
>>741819897>the idea is that the player is some outside entity messing with the life of some MC robbing them of agency.Okay so why can't we make him hit on Susie
Another of thos bullsgit is because deva want to shove tranny shitvjn your face, DID YOU KNOW THAT WEEEEEE RXIST WERE HERW GUYS TRANNS PEOPLE EXIST I NEED TO BE NOTICED. This is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen daddy and mommy didn't give you enough attention so you go SCREAMING to random people online to make people KNOW YOU ARE TRANS I am fucling enraged by this shit SHUT THE FUCK UP no one gives a single goddamn shot if your trans just shut the duck ip I don't fucking care anymore dude holy shit your so fucking annoying Jesus christ these faggots are so attention starved because no one gives a shot about them to begin with because they are fucking shitry people with zero defining personality traits ro begin with so they have to siout about being trans everyday of their life like it's some goddamn unique thing tha5 they came out as trans holy fuck BE QUIET STOP FUCKING TALKING. I FUCI8NG HATE TRANS ACCEPTATANCE BYLLSHIT
>>741819270I don’t hate 1 I like it a lot but the other chapters have a lot more fun gimmicks and wacky adventures.
>>741820194The difference is that Frisk has zero romantic or personal attachment to either lesbian, unlike Kris.
>>741820256I wouldn't help any of these fuckers.
>>741820194Lol
>watching your last chance for a legacy go down the drainoof
>>741820358You can also murder one or both of them for manipulating you.
>>741820358>7 Year old made to chaperone a yuri date GROOMERFOX CONFIRMED
>>741820402Just how much estrogen has Robert been injecting into himself?
>>741820279>no one gives a single goddamn shotanon you're so angry you're having a stroke, is this a bit
>>741819897You can do all of that without including a really badly written lesbian romance.
>>741819125What did she say again?
>>741820402Carol knows Kris would be fruitful and multiply unlike the doe muncher
>>741820402Where was this? I just completed the chapter and didn't encounter Carol at all.
Anyone feel like having venison?
>>741817141>Not even BERDLEY, who knows about the dark fountains.Berdly and Noelle both thought ch2 was a dream, in the good route at least. The real reason why Susie wants her to join them in the dark world is obviously just so they can hang out and be all lovey dovey in fantasy land, wanting to fight the Knight is just a cheap excuse to bring Noelle there.
>>741820472I'm angry because I hate people falling about this tyranny shit everyday of my goddamn life when all it is it people wanting, no forcing you to know that they identify as the opposite sex now. I don't give a flying fuck what you Identify as I just want to talk to you without having to think about how I need to talk to you. Suddenly I have to use personality B in this conversation instead of personality S and it's fucking stupid just because you don't want your feelings hurt.
>>741819984Please tell me you're just fucking with me I'M NOT GAY WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE THAT
>>741820725Nobody wants their feelings hurt, anon.
>>741811718I think it's funny and I hope Toby continues to do it out of spite.
>>741818801Is an adoptive mother not a mother?
>>741820772She has eyelashes. She's a girl.
Kris and Susie and Noelle be like
>>741820402she'll just have to take Kris for herself.
>>741814794Imagine if ralsei is just kris’s dick and that’s why he appears in every dark world
>>741820513*...Kris... When I cast "Snowgrave..."*I...*I felt stronger than I have my entire life.*I know... It's horrible. It's horrible to say that, but...
>Undertale Pacifist route>need to chaperone a yuri date and relationship>here>need to chaperone a yuri relationshipIs this a fetish for Toby or something?
FUCKING STUDIO KHARA?
>>741818506They say they are, but really they're just waiting for a dick that's good enough
>>741820995Are you a samefagging jannie or something?
>>741820917Milf doeMolester doeYuri doe
Someone post the sound clip of Noelle's unhinged voice.
How’s the data mining going?
>>741811718Imagine playing FF7 and getting to the Gold Saucer scene, only now Cloud has to stand around watching Tifa and Aeris go on a date and say nothing about it. That's what Chapter 5's festival feels like.
>>741820796Well to fucking bad because that's ehat the goddamn world does to you. Your feeling don't fucking matter the world will shit on your feelings and putting of this "I'm Trans" mask to avoid any form of criticism about you or use it as a way to deflect your feelings being hurt so you can say "You can't say that to me, I'm Trans." Ya well tough shit being trans doesn't make you exempt from being a shitty person. But now they can claim what I said as discrimination and NOT FACT just because they chose to identify as non cis that day. I HATE IT, it removes any validity to critical thinking and just turns people into these whinging bitches that can't handle anything even an iota of offense. Everything is a pathetic hugbox, no one laughs, no one had fun, everything is OFFENSIVE. holy fuck everyone is so insufferable these days. GROW THE FUCK UP.
>>741821224Your feelings don't matter either, anon. Play a different game
>>741811718WORDS WORDS WORDS YAP YAP YAPNow PLEASE give me some good fanfics and fangames involving Kris and Noelle KINO
What the fuck was that. ZERO FUCKING STORY PROGRESSION. Couldn't this retard show at least something meaningful? Toby is a hack. Officially. (gameplaywise was the best chapter, no doubts. Also soundtrack had bangers)
>>741821317That's exactly what IM SAYING. NO ONES FEELINGS MATTER. but now trans people's feelings DO MATTER more then the rest of societies feelings, why the fuck so they suddenly get a free pass for existing. Because they were discriminates against in the past. EVERYONE WAS DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.
>>741820402Reblog!
>>741821146This is always what I imagined they would do in FF7 Rebirth. I still have not played it so I may be wrong. Remake was awful.
>>>/vg/>>>/vg/>>>/vg/>>>/vg/>>>/vg/
>>741811718>Chapter 4 makes a big deal about the garden burning in an inferno of jealousy>Nothing fucking happens, no Ralsei using his fire magic on Flowery, no Asgore going nuclear, no jealousy in generalGerson you lying FUCK
That chapter was so fucking awesome
>A Noelle is just a NoelleAs noted, Noelle doesn't have much agency of her own on the normal route. She'll keep doing what she feels that she has to do and only perform her role. It's only on the Weird path, because of Kris, because of us, that Noelle finally gets to know what freedom is and leave it all behind. Therefore anons, do not be discouraged by the norm. Embrace the weirdness, help Kris and Noelle become more than what they are, and obtain the wings of freedom.
YOUR DAD'S MY BEST FRIEND
>>741821432>(gameplaywise was the best chapter, no doubts. Also soundtrack had bangers)Yeah so it was a good chapter then
When you're doing the Weird Route and don't Proceed in the lake and the game teleports Kris back to landDoes Noelle get back too or she just not mentioned anywhere else / assumed gone?
2 more chapters.If you're feeling hopeless right now it's because that ending was supposed to make you feel hopeless. Chapter 6 might be even worse in that sense.But I have HOPE. Will you HOPE with me?
>>741815916Kris got livelier again during the optional ferris ride with Susie. He might not be gone yet.Hell, we might not even be brainwashing/replacing him, just bringing out what's already there, buried in his mind.
>>741821546>no Asgore going nuclearThis is the most unforgivable thing in my eyes. Everyone was anticipating a showdown between Asgore and Sans, the Kings Chariot meme had everyone on Asgore's side and we all want to see his true strength. I don't understand why Toby is making Asgore a gay wet fart of a character.
>>741821680Gameplaywise yes, storywise is a dogshit, worse than chapter 1I dunno, maybe the weird route is better.
>>741813397Do it. Find people to help you. If you can code, there's artists around looking to work on a game that blows DR out of the water.We need good games again. No more of this fucking homoshit and dogshit romance.
>>741811718this part is making me feel retarded, what am i supposed to do?
>>741821753The fact that you think Asgore VS Sans would be le epic showdown and suitable for the game, world, or characters shows why fans are not in control of writing and should never be listened to.Asgore was done justice this chapter.
>>741821451genuinely what the fuck are you talking about
>>741821753because its not that kind of game
>>741821802platform up and hit the fanthen hit the second fanyes i did what you are doing for about 10 minutesi felt very stupid
>>741821753>Everyone was anticipating a showdown between Asgore and Sansthey're old ass men anonthey're too old for the kind of love triangle bullshit kris susie and noelle are doing right nowasgore recognizing his role as a father as the most important thing and moving on from toriel is unironically the best thing for his character
>>741821836He was only done justice in the sense he wasn't utterly humiliated. It's more like the bare minimum, since he barely gets any development in his own chapter.
>NOOOO I WANTED THE 12 YEAR OLD REINDEER GIRL TO MYSELF the only character I could see justifying this outrage is Queen since she's actually hot
>>741819057holy schizo chud melting.
>>741821546>>741821753Haven't really caught up with Deltarune in a while. So what exactly is going on with Asgore? Is Toby still putting him through the ringer?
>>741818636Its true
Ralsei is a girl pretending to be the Prince 100%
>>741821451Society functions on the presumption that people care about each other. It's a lie, but it's what keeps it glued together. You're not supposed to be a dick, same way you can't just start shouting slurs because "God but their feelings don't matter and it's just so hard to separate my 4chan persona from my real life one!"
So is Kris smashing?Noelle or Susie?
FLOWER RATINGPOST'EMAqua>Flowery>Seth>Green>Yellow>Orange>"Blue"
>>741822052his hand
>>741821950it would be unironic kino if it was a mulan situation played straight and not troonshitimagine how much it would recontextualize all the "step on me" momentsbut that would be TOO based for toby, sadly
>>741820772He's based on Seth from Illusion of Gaia. Sorry but you're gay.
>>741822052>Berdley
>>741821893Oh. Oh... fuck im dumb. i thought it was just a hard to reach secret or something and going up would be the normal path forward.
>>741821950I don't even care about trans ralsei or not but Flowery calling Ralsei a princess was a bit odd. Like he's calling Ralsei for what he is and then calling him a princess makes me think "of he's a girl" not "Oh he's trans"
>>741821643The way Noelle frames things this chapter on the weird route makes it sound like what we had her do was really just encouraging her to come out and do the things she really wants to do instead of holding back.
>>741821913>He was only done justice in the sense he wasn't utterly humiliated.And only because Toby decided Kris needed the humilation this time around.
Is weird route worth it? I played the normal route, honestly I am so disappointed I could never imagine I would be.
>>741821721lol no
>>741822052Kris might be smashing Noelle in Weird Route, but in Normal Route, the only thing Kris is smashing is that table as he watches Susie ditch the shit out of him and hand over everything they've done together to Noelle.
>>741822130dont worry anon i did and thought the exact same things
bingo
>>741822106>>741822129Seriously Which one of the girls you picked upThey surely gave him a BJ
Just finished the chapter. Haven't read any of the threads yet.It was shit.How was the Weird Route?PLEASE tell me the weird route was good.
>>741821432>Also soundtrack had bangersI'm sick of listening to that fucking motif. It's not even that good. Certainly not enough to play it twenty trillion fucking items.
>>741822134i've been saying she's always had it in her since chapter 2she's always been so fucking weird but not about susie or kris specifically, just whoever happens to be the "strongest" to her
>>741821721I'll repeat what I said on the other thread. The only way to redeem Chapter 6 is to have Susie and/or Noelle realize they're jumping into a relationship way too fast. Apparently Toby forgot this game takes place in like 4-5 days. Susie and Noelle BARELY knew each other before the events of Deltarune took place.Also, justice for Berdley. I hate how he's been turned into an annoying joke. Susie should've mentioned bringing both him and Noelle to fight the Knight.
>>741822134Again, why is the Weird Route considered bad at this point? Kris has more agency and is able to make a difference, Noelle is able to be more true to herself, no yurishit...seriously, are we supposed to believe this route is actually bad?
>>741811718Imagine buying early access gamemaker wokeslop. You might as well just kill yourself right now
>>741822131A character misgendering someone is definitely odd. That is not something Toby ever does, and is an unforgivable crime for a leftist.
>>741820267I'm glad you finally caught on
>>741822245>Berd Job
>>741822201>he watches Susie ditch the shit out of him and hand over everything they've done together to Noelle.UuuhhWhat No waySusie has a thing for Kris They are practically sex siblings
>>741816702>options are so little that he can only choose a furry boyliterally prison gay
>>741820772nta but Seth is clearly based on Seth from Illusion of Gaia
>>741822256the weird route is so fucking good becauseit skips the entire chapter
>>741822256extremely good... but its also extremely short cause toby cant bust open the mystery boxes yet due to his retarded chapter system
>>741822256Weird Route skips Chapter 5 and Kris and Noelle drown themselves
>>741822242Man, I didn't think so many Ls would be hit. Add "Out of Character moment" since Susie's been ruined for this shit.
well now Deltarune has made me cry twice
Susie was kinda a dick this chapter.
>>741822287>Kris has more agencyThere's no Kris, only (You). You've bought freedom for yourself and Noelle at the cost of Kris'.
>>741822286Sorry anon, but by the end Susie and Noelle will be one note lesbians and everyone else will be reduced to joke fodder.
>>741822170it's kino but it's extremely short this chapter, to an almost upsetting degree
>>741822256it skips everything after the lake scene but the schizo shit that actually happens is kino as fuck
>>741822097Pink>>>>All
>>741822317Feels very "The prophecy calls for a Prince not a Princess so I had to be one"Or maybe he was transformed into one I don't even know anymore
>>741820267>Alex, Rory, Michael, Dead sister Wtf are you smoking
>>741822256weird route has some schizokino, but it skips chapter 5 AND chapter 6
>>741822485I hate how short it is relative to the rest of the chapter. Even the Egg scene was extremely short. Fucking everything that wasn't filler was short. There was so much COAL.
>>741822349Nnnnope.Susie has decided Noelle has to be part of the dark world adventures now. Susie brought Noelle to the lake overview. Susie has invited Noelle to play piano with her.Expect Susie to invite Noelle to the diner soon. She's taking everything Kris ever did with or gave her and regifting it to Noelle. It's no longer her things with Kris, it's her things with Noelle.
>>741822242Mark off Toby goes full hussie, because he did. full bingo
>>741822256It was simultaneously disappointing and exceeded all of our expectations.
>>741822439How?
Completed Ch5 both routes, as far as I know The good:>Asgore was done serious justice. He was shown at realistic lows and great highs, and he has moved on from the worst of himself. >Ralsei was super entertaining as a bit of an insecure dickhead>Absolutely FANTASTIC sprites and artwork>Great tracks but I'll need to listen through again. Loved hearing the flowey motif in the boss fight>The gimmick made my jaw drop when it happened and was super fun to play throughThe so-so:>Snowgrave was fucking AWESOME... for the 20 minutes it lasted >You can kind of cuck Noelle during the festival which was nice >Some of the fights drag on super long, can imagine replaying being a bit of a slog >Castle town felt a little... empty. Wish you could go there between chapters. The bad:>Suselle still sucks, and the fact that it's converging in the main narrative is a bad fucking sign >Mew Mew 2/Pink was super fucking forgettable and I cannot give a shit about it, and the fight sucked dick. >Severe lack of Lancer Overall, 7/10. Hopefully 6 is out before the end of 2027 and 7, with any luck, isn't too much further out. My worst fears were more or less met while exceeding some high expectations.
>>741822531Isn't it easy to fuck up the prophecy in such a way that Kris get cucked out of it too to where it's Noelle/Susie/Ralsghey.
>Toby fox gives us yurishit>And not Yaoi KinoHumiliation ritual. Tobyfox might really just be spiritually woman [derogatory] with this shit man. Humiliation ritual. No one hates sensitive gays more than women, cuckservatives think they do but liberal woman infinitely exceed it
>>741822596That too.This chapter straight up murder raped my investment in the story.>>741822604Exceeding all our expectations of Coal. It's unreal how bad this shit is.
>>741811718Fans who enjoy shipping.Also more fancontent and free advertising from those same fans since they LOVE relationship stuff.
>>741822559Rory's sister is dead because he accepts what happened to her. Alex's sister is "gone" because he does not accept what happened to her. Michael wanted to fuck Alex's sister, and it's hinted at that Alex and Rory's sisters are the same person, making them half-brothers meaning you can try to commit incest.
>>741822571The egg was the last one but felt like it should've been the 3rd one
>>741817986>self insertI don't do that. I just feel empathetic and feel sorry for Kris. He's literally the third wheel among his friends.
>>741822457Considering what he's getting if we let him have control, I hardly think it's that high a cost. I mean, which is preferable: emasculation, humiliation and slow motion abandonment? Or the unknown that could lead to freedom?
>>741822581Dafuq >:(What the hell Toby you Fucking tranny you are the reason of why we can't have nice things
>>741822256i liked it man idk>how was the weird routekino, but there isn't much to it and we won't see the conclusion of it until chapter 7
I'm fine with Susie getting together with Noelle, but so far the way Toby is trying to force this ship into the main narrative is pretty shit.
>>741811718Toby just wants to deltagoon to the endless fanmade pron of his oc characters. He wrote deltarune with his hand on his dick
>>741822439if this is for any scene besides flowery you're a fag
I should've guessed
>>741822706That makes less sense and now am confused You saying Alex and roris are boys? What
I'm sure it's been discussed at length today but:>THAT>Festival was shit>Dark World was shit>Villain was shit>Music was... fart (8-Bit Big Band?)>Last crystal boss was shit>Egg was shit>NOTHING was answered>No Pure Crystal/Twisted Sword closure>Asgore did nothing and jobbed>Ending was shitPlacing all my stock in Weird Route now, I guess. Have fun waiting for the best ending for another four-five years.
>>741822097Green > Seth > Aqua > Orange > Flowery > Yellow > BlueI thought Blue was ok. Everyone else was just better.>>741822469This sucks. Susie and Noelle are infinitely better when they aren't talking about romance or each other. I wish Susie was asexual and didn't get into any romance
>>741822676I legit thought Flowery was supposed to be Rudy because he died, but Toby didn't go that route at all.
>>741822716Yeah I know right? It's fucking weird. This chapter feels rushed in all the places that were actually important. This feels like it wasn't even written by Toby Fox.>>741822762It's literally only 20 minutes if you experience every little bit of bonus dialogue. About 5 minutes otherwise. For the ending till chapter 7 it's way too little. Even if it's a cool scene everything else was missing.
>>741822706You forgot the fact that Michael and Kris both are actively working with and against the group and have their own agenda.
>>741822839I mean it was only a giant pink door that said "Mew Mew" in itthe chapter was obviously "HEY REMEMBER UNDERTALEEEEEEEE" why would you bring back the ONE FUCKING thing that wasn't in the original at all
>Blue was a dudeGAY NIGGA ALERT
>>741822793>commissioning an anime intro for tumblr sexyman human flowey just to watch him get peggedI fucking kneel
>>741822426I deliberately avoided those because susie's character has been fucked since chapter 2. The Ralsei scenes you get as an alternative are pretty good imo.Pacing of MR is practically unrecoverable now. We found one shelter code but besides epstein-tier suselle the radical change in the main cast dynamic that the game badly needed has been pushed off and may not even happen in chapter 6. Chapters are confirmed to end at 7 as well with the existence of 7b, and toby is gonna fuck us even more by separately releasing 6 and 7
>>741811718>kris is a psycho and locks YOU in a cage>NOOOOOO why aren't you helping him get the Noellussy? you are a cuuuuuuuckfuck that midget
Ok I was not expecting an actual animated cutscene
>>741822097Flowery > Yellow > Aqua > Seth > Green > Orange > Blueflowery was at the bottom at first but the more he showed up and acted as a foil to ralsei the more i began to like him
oh boy, yet another tranny involved in the games development
>>741822859>Filename Fitting because this is Bumblebee all fucking over again.
>>741821924You are completely misunderstanding the discourse of that is what you think is happening. It's the ones who wanted to fuck the underage lizard that got fucked. The Underage Deerfuckers basically powered up since they got a route where they get to go to the beach and Bathe with her while holding hands. Sucks for Kris though.
Not sure if I recruited everyone before the final boss. Anyone know the differences between a Pacifist ending and a regular one?
>>741822286Everyone forgets that once Berdley got over being a pompous ass he became an absolute ride or die nigga who gets so unbelievably mad at being mind controlled to attack his newfound friends that he rips the mind control device off his face even thought he has to totally fuck up his arm to do so.
Why the fuck even tease different ships if you're just going to override everything and force one to be cannon? I hate this bait shit
You're getting KrisxRalsei, chuds.
>>741822523Any tips for beating her? Her bomb attacks keep getting me
shitty chapter, nothing gets resolved and we get a bunch of weeaboo toby cuckold content shoved onto us.Thank goodness the world cup is bringing kinos, otherwise I'd have killed myself.
Aborting Weird Route at Chapter 5https://streamable.com/uvq5yv
>>741822097Kill Blue. Behead Blue. Roundhouse kick Blue into the concrete.Every other character besides Susie is quite entertaining and good. I am very glad toby did not completely ruin Asgore, but I am very unglad toby is still hiding most of what he knew.
Why the fuck isn't Berdly playable in at least one route? What's the point of different routes if the changes are just deleting a yuri ship or not? I want Berdly playable, dammit.
>>741823020>grok is this person trans
>>741822970I wouldn't wish this NTR bullshit on anyone, anon. Not even my worst enemy.
>>741822910Turning switch exclusive boss into a fucking super boss and still keeping the same puppet possessing lore is something
>>741816568Wrong, fucklestick. I'm gonna use AI to write my own ending. Krusie will be canon, the SOUL will use its godlike powers to fix everything. It's not quite at the tier of Homestuck ending, but it's pretty fucking close.
>>741822910Lotta people never played it on the switch so Mew Mew is basically a new character.
>>741823178They're not characters anon. They're tools for susselle. It's like how catti cried like a cuckquean
>>741822940Now it was forced into our face lmao.Everything's been RUINED, because this chapter was such a shitshow. Epstein hit the dark world it seems.I ain't even gonna wait for the next chapters, I already know I won't like what comes next.RIP man. Also he spoiled too much with the structure doing that shit.>>741823020What a shocker. Makes me glad I cut away any leftists trying to sneak into my projects.I'm so done with these fucking queers.We need to see more right wing devs, or devs that aren't fucking insane at least. >>741823104Genuinely feels like Toby didn't even write this, the writing quality is so ass.
>>741823102Susie VILL dump NoelleKerdly VILL become canon
>>741822910What if the secret boss was So Sorry instead?
>>741823137I'm just gonna assume this is some sort of disgusting coalpost. What actually happens:>You cannot tell Noelle to stop drowning you, props to the anon who called this dynamic based on that one fucked up comic yesterday>If you proceed too slowly then the entire scene magically resets back to main route, with noelle ominously interjecting through her thoughts>Go to dark world, haven't played dark world in aborted route yet
>>741818636That's why I'm so pissed off about it.>t. was the only STEM person hanging out with a bunch of theater kids in college
>>741823137So reality literally snaps back to the Prophecy huh
I still feel like Susie still is more emotional around Kris then Noelle. Hopefully in chapter 6 and 7 they just ignore the romance shit and focus on the plot.
>>741823157have the portraits from this scene been ripped yet?
just beat ch5i'm going to be totally honest: it was kinda mid3&4 felt way better to play and had better music only part of ch5 i liked were some of the flowers, like aqua and seththe side scrolling parts were neat thoughalso don't think i didn't notice that kris' wardrobe had a gown in it and here comes aqua wearing one tooalso i'm 99% sure the date from the sweepstake is the shelter code, i forgot the day but i know it was 09 and 199x(7)also the suselle was just as mid as expected, why the fuck is susie head over heels for a girl she's only been friends with for three days?
>>741822613>Chapter 4 "You're the only person who teaching me made me actually feel LESS stupid">Saying goodbye to the flowersI don't know man I get that some people don't like Suselle but he can still write the important shit
>>741814507Because he is a rapist
>>741822676yellow and blue were pretty blatantly gay weren't they? wasn't exactly kino but it was there
>>741823323Its just a video of anon not prossing proceed and what happened when the game teleports you back into the main route
>>741821146I know you wanted this metaphor to sound lame but that would be fucking awesome
>>741822785The problems are twofold:First, they have no fucking chemistry. They've barely spent any time together, there's a bunch of obviously fucked up traits to their relationship that are going completely unaddressed (Susie used her to spy on her family, Noelle is projecting Dess on her), the "bonding" we've been shown so far is shallow af and can be described as their interests slightly brush but never truly coincide, every scene about them is terribly boring and kills the pacing of the game.Second, it feels like every fucking time they advance their relationship, it's at the cost of Kris. This might have been merely annoying if Kris had a healthier social life, it could even be merely played for laughs as Kris makes exaggerated gestures of despair at getting third wheeled, but the entire point of Kris is being a depressed mess with a mysterious past that needed Susie to pull him out of the depths of misery and find at least slight spots of happiness again. That's fucking going away if Susie insists on sidelining him over and over, and then what's left?
>>741823401>why the fuck is susie head over heels for a girl she's only been friends with for three days?Because she ALWAYS liked her and only bullied Kris because she thought they were dating. YOU RIKE?
I have a confession to make, /v/Long ago, when the weird route first came out, I made a bunch of Noelle and Soul edits by editing Noelle and Susie art.And I have absolutely ZERO regrets!I FUCKING won. I've since lost those edits, though.I would appreciate somebody reposting them if you remember them or have them.
>>741823439Rape is natural. The only way for toby to redeem Deltarune is to write an entire chapter of nothing but rape scenes.
The situation: Toby is pushing yurislopThe whitepill: it's 4d chess meant to make you feel hopeless and railroaded by Prophecy, to make you break the game by going full Weird Route on the next playthroughThe blackpill: it isn't 4d chess at all, the entire project has been captured by propagandists who wish to use the game as a vector for their philosophy
>>741817362Alright bet.
>Several anons were joking about us potentially drowning Noelle at the lake before the chapter came out>They were technically right
>>741823541KILL. YOUR. SELF.This was at the cost of the writing, the characters, everything. You're a fucking useless cunt and deserve to hang like the tranny you are.
>>741823469>First, they have no fucking chemistry. They've barely spent any time together, there's a bunch of obviously fucked up traits to their relationship that are going completely unaddressedIve said this in other threads today, but thats how teenagers are with relationships anon. Fucking stupid, short sighted, and prone to obsession.
By the time we reach Chapter 7 Side B, do you guys think we'll attain our own Freedom leitmotif with Noelle?
>>741822785it's not even just the main narrative, EVERY narrative this chapter felt like it had to bring up suselle at some point somehowit's beyond egregious, even if i liked the relationship (which i don't, they STILL don't even feel like they understand each other properly) stopping your gameplay for another 'suselle advice corner' every two seconds should bother everybody
>>741823651Most common thing I saw was Kris drowns Noelle, I thought it was Noelle suicide by drowning. Somehow we were both right
>>741823658Fuck off, imagine defending this. It's a story, acting as if realistic retardation is how a story should be written is how we get dogshit writers burning their own stories to the ground.
>>741822785>>741823469i honestly think Toby is just shipping them because the narrative is going to have one of them kill the other and it has to be impactful but he forgot to write the relationship in the other chapters and now he has to "force" it in order for the killing to have weight to it
>>741823530it's just tiring, the two of them make each other's characters worsei'm not even opposed to a theoretical romance, it's just suselle's so fucking cliche and typical i can help but just want every scene over withsusie didn't even seem to really care that noelle ditched her because rudy is dying, iirc kris didn't even tell her i don't know what toby's thinking about susie and noelle getting closer being treated like a positive thing while showing kris looking dejected and abandoned, what's the play here?
>>741823541HOLY. CHAD.I KNEEL.
>>741815923nta but already on it myself
>>741817494indeed it does
>>741822097Blue>Aqua>Yellow>Flowery>Seth>Green>OrangeBlue is the best flower
All right, I am done with this game.First I had concerns in chapter 4, where "everyone learned everything" but not the player. I hoped we will learn SOMETHING in the chapter 5.No, Toby fed me with a fucking filler chapter. And it's a 5/7 chapter left.Festival was a nothing burger. The whole plot is aiming at Noelle being super important, despite that she didn't do anything meaningful in the normal route.Weird route... That is it? Fuck you Toby, seriously. I wish you didn't put this shit into the game at all.
>>741823530>Because she ALWAYS liked her and only bullied Kris because she thought they were dating. YOU RIKE?So is this actually fully confirmed? Like it wasn't taken out of context at all? Toby didn't actually turn Susie into a colossal cunt in one fell swoop did he?
>>741819239it is highly possible that Undertale is the world after the Roaringwhat I don't get is why Sans doesn't do fucking anything
>one bullied him because she was jealous because he interacted with someone who drifted away from him>other was only using him to get close to other At what point does he just let me take full control and go ham on the whole town?
>>741823793You only defend this shit because of the agenda and not because you cared about the quality of the story. Fuck off and die. >>741823893A nothing burger that ruined the characters at that. Time to hop off the Deltatrain
>>741823963no, susie didn't know noelle and kris had a history until ch4
>>741823651>>741823736I think what people really need to focus onis that they're not really commiting suicide, but they're breaking the boundaries of the game. Noelle and Kris have feviated off the path to such an extent, that the final Proceeds as the screen turns white is us pushing the barriers of the world to its limit.
Just got home. Any quick synopsis on what happens in the new chappie?
>>741823530>>741823963SCREENSHOTS MOTHAFUCKA DO YOU POST THEM?
>>741823761>Fuck off, imagine acting like this. Its a story, acting as if realistic retardation that you don't like ruins the writing is how we get dogshit posts flooding all the good threads.
>>741819239It just means WR sans is the sans that left DR for UT, which probably means DR goes to shit as a direct result of the weird route's antics
>>7418240824 hours of nonstop suselle pandering20 minutes of complete unfiltered edgekino
>>741823284>We need to see more right wing devsHow about devs from any affiliation, but that aren't completely insane, like you said?I could play a game made a commie, a nazi, a zionist jew... but i honestly draw the line at anything that has to do with post-sexual-revolution garbage like tranny and queer ideology.
>>741823987Sans doesn't do anything when you kill 99% of the underground, why would he care now? Boning Toriel probably has some sort of ulterior motive anyway
What the fuck do you mean noelle got raped?
Oh thank God the weird route this time is just a cool scene into "to be continued at the end of the game", I really didn't want to have to go through all of this chapter a second time and get all the coins and shit again
>>741824101why is grillby's building there if deltarune is a prequel though
>>741824185its okay she raped us back this chapter so its mutual
>>741824185that happened last year buddy. get with the program
>>741823997never, because toby still has it in his head that you like this band of pricks enough that you wouldn't side with the knight crew
>>741823020No wonder I can't fucking stand the combat in this game.Everything trannies touch turns to ash. Abominations.
>>741824185it's just anon being a schizoyou can literally stop from drowning in the lake by not proceeding as soon as you start drowningwhich is not an allegory for anything, you just continue as usual. Unless it is an allegory for erectile dysfunction
People keep saying the secret boss is crap and filler but all its dialog is about the player vs Kris and how to reconcile them.
>>741824185Anon... you've missed a lot, it seems
Well, /v/? Do you wanna do something CRAZY?!
>>741824147You know as well as I do that a Zionist Jew or a commie is literally the demographic that makes this shit.But yeah, just people who aren't insane. No more of this faggotry and garbage writing.
>>741824260I’ve laid all of them to waste Undertale. Barney and /k/‘s favorite onahole are nothing
>>741823632>it isn't 4d chess at all, the entire project has been captured by propagandists who wish to use the game as a vector for their philosophyThis is the truth
Just saw the Weird Route...good lord.
>>741824241It's not the exact same building retard. Same grillby exists in both worlds and built the same building, it just happened to end up in Sans' hands somehow here.Why am I letting you make me justify the #2 yuri fan's sloppy multiverse
>>741824307Subtext is lost on the anons in these threadsfor they are hoodweebs who only understand hype moments and aura
>>741823284>We need to see more right wing devsevil cannot create, only destroy
>>741818212Correct>Festival>Dont forget drawing>Flowers >Noelle talking about getting wings>Grave (snowgrave and i think noelle can drew a grave at voting station)>Gardening >Knight shows up againWhats wrong>Roaring>Knight doesnt really play any important roleConsidering that this was made 4 years ago i think its possible stuff changedRoaring could have been moved to chapter 6. You already had to asume stuff changed betwen release and the meme for previous chapters, so i think its fairUltimately i still believe it
>>741824395What happen?
>>741824307i found the fight to be gruelling, somehow felt worse than fighting the knight despite being easier (?)at this point i have to wonder what the point of increasing everyone's health is when they can only take a max of 4-5 hits anyways, feels redundant
>>741824314YEAH!
>krisuie? Not on my watch, activate full reality rewriting
RudyKnight was pretty much destroyed this chapter. We're stuck with DessKnight and we're going to like it, I guess.
>>741824407>Same grillby exists in both worlds and built the same buildingPost this being stated in the game without headcanon NOW
>>741824314YEEESSSSS
>>741824435Noelle, uh, really liked being mindbroken. A little too much.
>>741823530>she ALWAYS liked her and only bullied Kris because she thought they were dating. This is a complete retcon of her character to be honest.She thought everybody hated her and they hoped she got expelled. Also when they were alone in ch 2 she clearly demonstrated more interest in the adventure than Noelle. She never mention her unless Noelle is of some use to the party. On the contrary, Kris and Susie have a much more plausible love interest: the "accidental" almost kiss in ch3, the mirror scene, the diner scene, them being bros in adventure and her opening up to kris since they were both alone in the world and finally finding a trusted person in each other. It's just toby forcing yuri because he hates men. That's it. There's no other explanation.
>>741824461noelle knight is still possible, although we got fuck all for the knight this chapter so it hardly matters
Honestly I'm just kinda depressed. We've had two bad chapters now, very little has progressed story wise, and while I wasn't super invested in the relationship angle Susie and Kris were cute together, and it is pretty jarring to see him get shit on THIS hard.
>>741824426Saying that after the left made these wretched ruins.Don't give me that nonsense. The right used to make things. For so long. It's time to create seriously once more.
>>741824416People are ignoring a lot of moments, like Flowery saying Ralsei is simply stronger than everyone and "no one will be able to beat him" at the end of the story.Also the part where Ralsei says "You wanna know what happens when I don't follow the rules" alluding to the weird route Noelle dialog.These retards are just speedrunning the chapter without paying attention to anything.
>>741824435You wake up after the festival has already ended, Susie sends you to the lake with Noelle, she goes crazy bitch mode and begs you to strangle her and make her proceed through the lake until you reach the other side, you do so for a while, screen fades to white, see you in chapter 7 side BNo dark world or anything it's like 5 minutes total
>Rudy dies>Noelle kills herselfHere's how Krusie can still win
I cant believe Toby Fox preformed a blood ritual to sacrifice the writing quality so Deltarune could have fun gameplay.
>weird route ending >insert chapter 7>toby said that chapter 6 was easier to develop in comparison to recent chapters Weirdroutefags are going to miss an entire chapter KEEEKKK that’ll be 24.99 plus tip
>>741824532No it isn't. Noelle and Carol stayed with Rudy. It can't be any of them.
>>741818547What Mike is ranting about there has always bothered me, because in that scenario, Jessie, who he had grown quite fond of by this point, would be fucking *dead.*
>>741824314PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED PROCEED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED GET DROWNED
>>741811718I liked Noelle's smile in the weird route. Does somebody have the other sprites for her? Non-blurry, that is.
>>741824307I guess I’m just old and retarded but I can’t even beat the fight and I need to keep my focus on the gameplay, so yeah the subtext might be lost on me.
>>741824586>Weirdroute chads are getting an entire chapter to themselvesKek enjoy being Suselle cuckholds
>>741818212>noelle baseding at wings = weird route>"R.I.P." = kris drawing a grave with his nameMore relevant than you might think.
>>741824461>Rudy has an accident>The knight shows up and is visibly injured in some wayRudy knight bros just keep on fucking WINNING
>>741823658I have seen plenty of fictional relationships between teenagers that showed how messy they tend to be while still being narratively satisfying. It's usually done by actually addressing it. As of right now, the only real intentional indicators that the relationship between Susie and Noelle is messy at all is Kris' and Carol's reaction to it, and it's not clear at all whether the narrative intention is for it to be flaws for Kris and Carol or for Susie and Noelle, because otherwise the story is pretending like they're perfect for each other.
>>741824560we're not even 2 years into trump 2.0 and even the paid shill grifters are done with "the right"
FINAL CHAPTER RANKING:4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5there was some ok stuff in ch5, but everything was a straight downgrade compared to 3 & 4 for the first time i'm actually worried about the development of the game, where are we going at this point? nothing's happened and we're on the last third now
>>741824560>the left made these wretched ruins.What? Are you referring to DR?
>>741812069based fur chadadding the toe ring
>>741824489It must be true unless Undertale is a direct prequel which is impossible because nobody remembers anything from undertale. The only other alternative is Sans transported everybody to undertale after deltarune... again with no memory
>>741824685Bro, I really don't think Rudy would be left alone after an injury like that.
>>741824565>These retards are just speedrunning the chapter without paying attention to anything.Agreed, it's barely day 1I'm just hoping for some more high quality discussion in the coming week
I think the hype train crashed and exploded. Billions dead.
tranny slop
>>741824568Huh...no resolution after the lake drowning or the chapter is cut short there?
>catti in the church talks to kris normally even after the conversation last chapter - clearly it's just their dynamic, and she's still cool>susie and noelle touch fingers in the bowl, haha funni>catti saw>she complains because she likes noelle>and then susie decides to say FUCK YOU and holds hands openly with noelle in front of her for no fucking reason>she runs off crying and you can do nothing to help her>kris doesn't even want to help her one actual friend (because susie ain't much of a friend to him either apparently going off how this chapter went)i've not seen anyone mention it yet but this shit felt meanspirited as fuck
What do you see in this picture?
>>741824565whoa bro a whole two scraps of lore that's crazy
>>741818212>I dont want to play with you anymore in chapter 6That will be Susie abandoning Kris for Noelle
Do people here really dislike the chapter or just contrarians? I personally loved it as it tackled a couple of pet peeves I had with previous ones (lack of enemy variety, corridor like zones, few important npc interactions) while keeping me on my toes with each new mechanic and the flowers (did not care for the blue gay one AT ALL). Haven't played the weird route yet but I liked this meaty chapter. Although am I the only one who found the music a bit lacking? I didn't like it as much as chapter 4's
So uhh what was the "inferno of jealousy"?
>>741824587it's later in the day when the knight drags it's ass to the dark fountain, yeah? could be any of the does stillwe got fuck all about the knight this chapter anyways so we really don't have anything new to go on, asides from it being 100% not rudy due to him dying of death
>>741824307Who gives a fuck it's trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. I don't care about fucking mad mew mew hatsune miku dating simulator ripoff. Give me an actual compelling character not this trash. Anyone who is trying to shift the narrative that the secret boss isn't terrible is a anime obsessed tranny who disdains actually grounded charcters with full thematic development. Its beyond parody
>>741824821The screen gets progressively more fucked up as you go further into the lake until it fades to white and then the chapter cuts out and says to wait for chapter 7
>>741824685I'm pretty sure they specifically said "fell down", which makes me think back to what happened to the Amalgamates.
>>741824843The entire chapter is a treasure trove, but you're blinded by Suselle
>>741824735Yeah this chapter killed DR. Lmao.>>741824712The tides are turning lmao. Normal people are tired of this inane faggotry.
>>741824565Bro, we're almost done with the story. I'm sick of having to analyze needlessly cryptic dialogue to learn something we already guessed.
>>741824829A dumbass letting his social life slip through his fingers
>>741811718We are now going to have to deal with people not understanding that Suselle is a doomed ship forced by the prophecy and Krusie is the one defying it. We have plenty of dialogs that make Susie act weird not understanding what love is but being obsessed with Noelle's heartbeat and openly calling her a girlfriend. The game make it too obvious this romance isn't established as fan service.
>>741824829Nothing changed
>>741824829an interesting game turned into yet another yuri slop (cuckold edition)
>>741824916Makes me wonder how many people here actually played through all the awesome shit or just skimmed through a playthrough for the story.
My only real gripe is that the ending of the normal route this chapter felt very flat, I thought I must've missed something but no that's just it
https://poal.me/8vqd8x
>>741824946What level of copium is this
>>741814134Susie has feeling for Kris. Her hair on his bed in dark world is one of small hints. Also her walking with Kris at the end is a big flag.
>>741823323>>741823365It means chapter 6 will be playable with a traumatized Noelle and a dead Berdly so it's a bit interesting
>>741824850I really liked it! Especially how the main character was humiliated throughout the entire chapter. A good NTR chapter.
>>741824829two kids bullying another into killing himself while acting innocent about it the whole time (but it's cool they're gay for each other so they did nothing wrong)
>>741824850imo the bad outweighed the good this time around i liked some of the flowers, namely aqua, seth, and green, but i could leave the rest of themmusic was forgettable imo, nothing stuck out except for the flowery's song being completely different from the rest i did like the side scrolling segments though, they were neat
>>741824946I genuinely can't tell (and I hate that I can't) if Blue is supposed to be a really gay guy or a really ugly girl.
>>741822785I didn't care about Suselle positively or negatively before this, but the festival basically being ALL them when i been Berdleymaxxing was absolutely disappointing, and when Susie dragged that shit along into the Flower Shop Dark World im just rolling my eyes. The issue with Suselle isn't that it is happening, it is that as it is happening other more interesting things don't get to happen. Susie on her own is fine, Noelle on her own is GREAT (as shown with Snowgrave and arguably the ARG shit if you count that). But at this point i feel more like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXE8LdXzeHM when a Suselle moment is starts to happen.
>>741824859The knight also acted like he's dying, so that can be used as evidence for RudyKnight.
>>741821052You must know a lot of lesbians then.
I am so sick of seeing romance in media. Just when I think I find a series with non in it. BAM, romance plot. Fucking shit games everywhere
>>741824936What is he supposed to do about it?
>>741825105did it? the knight seemed normal to me
Why?WHY
>>741815524Its almost an entire Festival, but it feels so long and cheese i'm like 100% on purpose to make as cringe. The fact you can't skip it and Susie is now renovating Dark World to introduce Noelle make me think that ship will not sail. Susie know nothing about Noelle and her past so its not a very pure romance
>>741824829Post the ice cream scene. It's more brutal.
>>741825156BE AWAKE, for one
>>741825101blue is 100% a dudeit took me a second but it's clearly supposed to look like one of the magypsies from mother 3, except blue
>>741825104Welcome to yurislop. I don't generally like that word 'slop' but it fits here because when yuri shipping happens it suffocates the room for anything. Full on poochie tier. Yurifags draw either fujoshi women (sex-crazed coomers), AGP transgenders (Sex-crazed coomers), or straight male lesbian fetishists (Sex crazed coomers).
>>741825123Relationship melodrama is on the same level as adding a thousand swear words and blood and guts in order to look mature but nobody wants to have that conversation.
>>741825104The issue with Suselle isn't that it is happening.It definitely is the issue.
>>741823039Probably how I got over with that stuff so quickly TBF, Rooster Teeth made me Lesbian resilient
>>741824307I like the secret boss, but chapter 5's general plot pissed me off because it felt like it had less narrative progression than chapter 3. We only have chapters 6 and 7 left, we shouldn't be adding more to the mystery box bullshit.
>>741817141Bros Gerson called it burning with inferno of Jealousy for a reason. This is Player and Kris getting cucked by the Prophecy who forced Susie and Noelle together.
>>741825123the problem is that the romance is executed like absolute horseshit. Oh wow they spent like a grand total of 6 hours together. Now you get a full pass for being a piece of shit, disrespecting her parents and thirdwheeling your buddy. This shit is written by kissless virgins and it shows
We have now entered into the phase where Toby cocksuckers now have to stawman everyone who hates the chapter as a shipfaggot. I could give less of a fuck about Suselle but the plot was complete dogshit with only a few glimmers of decency.
>>741825172what the fuck? all i got was catti saying sorry to kris for abandoning him during the demon summoning because she got scared, and wondering if kris letting susie get close to noelle was revenge
>>741825017I mostly just didn't like how the Knight kind of shows up out of nowhere. Like, it feels like a bit that was added out of necessity because Toby forgot about the Knight throughout the entire chapter."A SECOND FOUNTAIN HAS HIT THE TOWER" and then the game is over it after 2 minutes.
>>741823020Reminder that Toby had people thinking this was ZUN only for it to be a fucking troon
>>741825052>Susie has feeling for KrisNo, she wants to BE Kris. If you look through the shadow crystal, in every occasion its about being jealous of Kris and Noelle, Susie herself admits to being jealous of them in one of their cutscenes, she takes over the player choices whenever she can, she wants the prophecy to be about her the entire time, she even abandons "their thing" of going to Dark Worlds by including Noelle during the ending of chapter 5.The story will be all about how Susie took everything he had.Its even funny how we discover where the green crayon from Kris house has gone. Susie draws the "don't forget" picture in the weird route with the stolen green crayon
>>741825095I agree with the flowers and music points although the section about the yellow one killing himself was funny. What don't you like about the chapter anon?
>>741825172>BEHEAD THOSE THAT INSULT SUSELLEGet used to hearing that for another year.
>>741825164He was kneeling down and panting, which he didn't do before.
>>741824825this entire chapter felt like it was designed to shit on kris from start to finish>susie implies the date is just some bullshit to get close to noelle and a chance at the shelter codes>no fuck you susie actually loves noelle and the entire thing is bullshit>berdly openly shitting on kris for being a third wheel when he literally said he would be the 4th a few dialogue boxes ago>all of the catti stuff>the entire lake scene ending with noelle going HAHA KRIS DIDNT NOTICE YOU THERE>susie's entire character being reduced to saying noelle every other textbox>even the ending is susie saying to add noelle to the group full time, ignoring berdly who is also a competent fighter>kris literally alone in the school at night while susie goes to her happy fun time imagination land to sleepat this point the weird route and the roaring feels like a mercy to this kidwhat the fuck did kris do to deserve this?
>>741824829A teenage boy being turned onto a third wheel in the most painful way possible.
>>74181821After this chapter im investing everything into this stock. >>741824434 and >>741824674 are correct
>>741825395Because Flowery kicked him into the wall
>Leave Kris to me!
>>741815117>>741817197Who's molly?
Do you ever fight those terra-cotta archers and the orchid mantises that are with Cyan in the Second Diner?
>>741823020>void stranger>zero rangeroh, those two indie shill games from a year or two ago lol
>>741825101He's gay dude sadly. Another point for the woke Toby evangelists
>>741825172it's legitimately fucked up, it's so goddamn spiteful to a small side character for no reason>>741825314you've got to interact with the punch, catti gets a ! over her head to make sure you're drawn to it just so you can see her spirit get crushed in real time
>>741824946I hope and pray this is the truth. It feels incredibly unnatural, like if the Fairy Godmother from Shrek suddenly showed up to wish them together.
I wish I could just force Kris into one of these things
>>741824825It's a humiliation ritual
>>741823020Eebrozgi trooned out? lmao
>>741825329peak cucky fox moment
>>741825364it's hard to describe, it just feels like we got less of everything compared to 3 & 4 despite 5 being a pretty long chapteregg room didn't feel as crazy as the prior 2, secret boss wasn't as fun as the other ones, music was lacking, half the flowers felt like they were filler what was good was good, like the side scrolling and the other flowers, but idk man i'm not feeling this one like i was with ch4
>>741825459Genuinely carried the dark world portion of the chapter for me along with Asgore. Adorable little thing.
>>741825101I really expected more of the "disciple of my speech" named by Miss Mizzle (who had pretty good writing). A lot of people say the chapter doesn't even feel like toby, but it's really just blue specifically. He let one of the WOKE devs get carried away (again) and it will tarnish his life's work forever (again)
>>741824829>>741825194>Kris doesnt even get an ice cream
>>741811718Don't care, post Muffet.
>>741825438The knight easily killed Flowery. That was not the problem there.
>>741824101it can only be the weird route one because normal route is locked in a loop (susie won't let it end)
i don't think i can forgive toby even if suselle is a fakeout subversodeconstruction because it's so fucking bad. i dont care if its supposedly shite on purpose, if you were a good writer you'd write it in a good way from the start
Mew Mew is literally just the Woody Theory just done in the most dogshit way possible. Its actually almost like Toby watched Woody Theory and shifted the chapter 5 secret boss to mirror the kris/soul idea only just without the actual cool Woody idea and instead it's just a bunch of weaboo trite. How can anyone defend this garbage.
>>741825172Another point that suggest Suselle is not an end game. Catti has feelings for Noelle. There is no reason for Toby to favor one yuri for another. Krusie and CattixNoelle are going to be end games.
>>741823987
>>741825519i see, i only talked to her when entering the room and that was before i did that
>>741825292The boss was totally unfitting for a secret boss.>>741825350I hope that backfires then. Kris deserved better.>>741825412It feels spitefully mean spirited to Kris. Reminds me of Mangaka who burn down their MC because people liked him too much. Fucking garbage.
>>741825252Eh, i like Symphogear so in theory i should be "Yuri-slop" receptive though.
>>741825489no. This symbolizes the missing story continuity of this chapter in favor of irrelevant highschool relationship drama, which is a microcosm of the whole chapter Bravo TobyFox this writing truly is "peak" as the young ones say
>>741824829>>741825609It's so bad
>>741825459easily the best character in the chapterflower kris is cute
Guys... I think I finally get why janny kept deleting the threads autistically for a whole year... he was trying to PROTECT us
>>741825459>a character that likes kris? haha not happening, your ass is dying with this dark world- toby, cackling as he makes kris even more miserable
I miss you guys. I'm still working on the chapter. I still love Asgore's gay shipping. Talk to yall soon
Ok turning off Ralsei in the config menu is pretty funny. This chapter is alright when it's not about Noelle
>>741825412>ignoring berdly who is also a competent fighterIf we're going by normal route standards, then Noelle is straight up not even a fighter to begin with, so Susie saying she wants to include her because they need help is total bullshit and the best she could hope for is that Noelle gets killed or gets a random power up for whatever reason Susie wouldn't know about.
>toby fox hires an indie dev tranny and andrew hussie for filler>game gets worsebravo vince
>>741825395>>741825438yeah, the knight got domed by the wall when flying at mach speed, no shit that would hurt
>>741825350Bro Susie is driven by Prophecy. Noelle was suppose to be The Girl Hero and Susie took her role. Now it will resolve in Noelle replacing her in chapter 6 when Susie turn out to be the Dragon and her feelings will also cease
...at least we got Tasque Manager in a nun habit. Right guys...? Guys...?
>>741825459If only the other flowers were as good as this qt
>>741825875literally the only good thing about this chapter. Oh and the side scrolling sections. that's it..
>>741825350what le fucki didn't notice the crayon, does she have it with the sans picture? if so how'd i miss that?i also gave the ch4 crystal to seam, probably should've kept it, unless it's the ch5 crystal at the end with susie
>>741825649nah man he crushed that shit as cruelly as possible BECAUSE suselle is endgame, catti dared to be jealous of toby's ship so she gets to bear 1% of the pain kris goes through for the same reason
>>741825536It the truth. Susie literally skipped entire learning what love is and move straight to magentism as if she wanted to marry Noelle next chapter
>>741824829total hmofaggotry defeat
>>741824568If you don't keep going with proceed as the screen fades then it backs out and it just puts you were normal route ended at the festival including all the noelle and susie stuff
>>741825836honestly at times it felt like susie was forcing herself into being the girl and isn't actually supposed to bethe ribbon thing felt really weird, for example
>>741825649>KrusieI don't think I want it to be endgame anymore tbqhwyfamalam.Either the theory from earlier that the game/prophecy is harshly mind controlling Susie into becoming obsessed with Noelle is true, or I've just kind of lost all sympathy I had for Susie and think Kris is not going to be happy with her after all.
I wonder if that chapter 7 weird route save basically bricks the other files. It kind of remind me of the genocide files.
>>741814507Anon if anything liking the Susie and Noelle shit shows he LIKES Kris. Kris is fully ok and has zero issue with their relationship progressing but if you do Weird Route and practically get in the way of it Kris>Intentionally does NOT want to get out of bed>Tries to resist the Hearts commands to the point descriptions are gone for a time>Is notedly pointed out by Susie that they seem down>And perhaps most importantly doesnt even bother opening the fountain in Ch5
>>741825957>i didn't notice the crayon, does she have it with the sans picture? if so how'd i miss that?Only happens in the weird route, she pulls out a neon green crayon (the same description as the ones in Kris house)>>741825957>probably should've kept itYou should, when you use it during the festival it says "It shows you and Noelle having fun together, while Susie watches angrily from a window"
>>741825649I genuinely hate that Catti has had feelings for her this whole time. It would've been way better off if she was just a worried friend.
>>741825543Toby...
>>741825690It was so painfully cringe, there is no fucking way Toby put it here unironically. He played 100's JRPGS where companion bond in battle and then fall in love. There is no way he is leaving it with Suselle
>>741825609That moment made me throw away all my love for Susie. It's like she forgot about Kris.
>>741824829the wrong route
>>741826129was literally gonna post the same thingi fucking loathe susie after this chapter and i cannot wait to simply skip chapter 6 with the weird route and get to the real fun
>>741826082damnso i'm assuming toby is implying that the 'original' story had kriselle and the 'new' story is pushing suselle? i wonder why that is
>>741826052At this point I have a great fear that Kris and Noelle both died, Susie never finds them, and 7b is just a cutscene of the roaring.
>>741826073>It's ok guys Kris actually LIKES being cuckedUh-huh.
>>741825959He did it in such a contrived manner that no one's sympathetic to it. Toby's really burning down his own story for the ship.>>741826049I hope it's the first just to dodge the coal hell. Might be the only way to save this shit. But it's really a cope...>>741826129It's like she actively twisted the knife. What a disaster.
>>741821721Yeah, just from reading the threads it definitely seems like normal route is just trying to drive Kris insane for whatever reason.
Should I even finish it? I stopped playing once the dark world started
>>741826214>blueballing the players for 2 more years just for another 5 minute scene
Someone post the "Spoilers without context" meme, I want to see where it went wrong
>>741824946This is the only thing that could redeem this dogshit chapter, but there's no way it's true.
>>741826073>Kris is fully ok and has zero issue with their relationship progressingdoes this look like a boy who is 'fully ok' with it to you?
>>741826094i love it because it makes suselle look way worsecattelle would be an infinitely better ship btw
>>741826049Nah, she only act weird around Noelle. And Toby also STILL adds Krusie dialog options like telling Susie to also carry Kris to the lake or in the dark world when Susie asks Kris if he ever liked a girl and then asks if its a monster or another human
>>741826238it's clearly bait, the parting shot of the chapter is kris looking miserable after susie abandoned him to go include noelle in 'their thing'
>>741826308Everything about it was 100% accurate
>>741826296finish it you retardgameplay wise it's at least funi just didn't care for anyone in it, everyone who i cared about was dragged offscreen
>>741826203>i wonder why that isTo push you into doing the weird routeAlso, another thing people haven't noticed, its that its impossible to get the twisted sword in the weird route, since it ends before you can get the fifth crystal. So certainly you'll have to abort the weird route to have both the thorn ring and the pure crystal.
>>741824946I hated that Blue faggot so much holy shit
the problem is actually pretty obvious, tobyfox ran out of ideas for chapter 5, 6, and 7 and was afraid of going over the 10 year mark. the problem is that he did everything before, so bringing on two entirely different people (void stranger dev and andrew hussie) just throws the whole thing off. this will also likely negatively affect the ch6 + 7.you can't just bring on entirely two new writers without it coming off disjointed, toby you dumb hack
>>741826073>Kris is fully ok and has zero issue with their relationship progressing
>>741826109>There is no way he is leaving it with Susellebold of you to assume he's based enough to make Susie confess she was only doing it to experience love but she doesn't really feel those kind of emotions for Noelle and then realize she loves kris instead. It's Yuri slop. The end. Just ditch this game and leave it to faggots. Show love to the next similar game with 0 faggotry in it.
>>741821721No. The story committed suicide to make it happen. This is the worst way to evoke that feeling.Just makes me hate one of the core characters.
>>741822674Peak trannoid slop tright there. Just have Kris do some 'heroic' sacrifice at the end as well.
>>741826342I would like to review that manually
>>741826324watch this be explained as>oh no they are doomed cuz of the prophecy not my fwiends or some shit
I have a feeling when we know what Kris has done we'll all feel his suffering is 100% justified. But until then... man, that poor kid. He's gonna be one fucked up adult if he doesn't just off himself.
why does everyone in town want to fuck fucking noelle of all people
>>741826073If you abort the lake drowning, you will be back with Suselle and Kris keeps saying "nothing changed, nothing changed" like he gave up and understand that Suselle leads to the Roaring. He just also understand that Weird route is fucking worse than Normal prophecy cucking him
>>741826109>He played 100's JRPGSYeah 100's NTR H-games
>>741826214>7b is just a cutscene of the roaring.>cutscene ends >Game doesnt end>Proceed to chapter 1 side b >you start with already lobotomized kris unable to do his weird little tricks to limit your choices and acces to informationWould this work?
>>741826462have you SEEN noelle? she's quite literally a fertility goddess, a semen demon, an aphrodite, quite possibly the most irresistible woman in fiction
>>741826462Rich, smart, mayor's daughter, no backbone, easily coerced and manipulated. Basically a dyke's dream.
>>741826360no abort jungle by the way.until proven otherwise, its still weird route.
>>741821546The jealousy was from the players, when faced with the dollar-store yuri.
>>741826585But it simply ends with "Insert chapter 7", unless you mean failing and getting the "nothing changed" cutscene.
>>741826487That is obviously Noelle saying that.
>Romance is so brainlessly forced and tone-deaf that anons are theorizing the very universe/prophecy itself is brainwashing them togetherLook I don't like Suselle either but you have to understand Toby isn't capable of pulling a 180 like this.
>>741826503I think Timeloop theory is already a semi-popular one around here. I don't see it discussed very often.
>>741821691Susie comes and saves her. Probably is the one who saved Kris as well.
>>741826214It's going to be a cutscene showing Hometown in relative peace outside of mourning the two new missing kids. Then we get Susie, who never found or saw the Knight or any other dark worlds again after Kris and Noelle died.
>>741821721No. This is not 'making you feel hopeless', this is making the characters cruel, and mean, and unlikeable.You can't reverse this. You can't tape over it with some bullshit like changng who's with who. The bridge is burned.Shit's fucked. It's not hope you're feeling, it's denial. Sheer, naive denial.
>>741826704>Look I don't like Suselle either but you have to understand Toby isn't capable of pulling a 180 like this.This. Basically coping. It's a dyke lover faggot developing a game. There will be yuri. That's it.
>>741826558her mother is hotter
>>741825059Chapter 6 is gonna be some kind of Convergence. That's why there's not gonna be a 'Weird Route' in 6.
>>741826704It will take more than one mediocre chapter to shake my belief in this faggot dog Im not leaving the toby train untill at least chapter 6 (or untill rest of the game is released if we get both 6 and 7 at the same time)
>>741826462both noelle and susie are somehow the most wanted people in hometown despite both of them being openly assholes to everyone other than each other (and kris but it's pretty clear to everyone at this point that he's the unfortunate third wheel they keep around to laugh at)
>>741826856Still, there's a persistent compulsion to see this through to the end. The small hope that this saccharine slop is just a front for something much more compelling. But, y'know, the author is a terminal yurifag and it's only gotten worse after today sooo I'm not holding my breath.
>>741826953idk susie was kind of a bitch to kris this chapter at times, felt really jarring compared to how ride or she she'd been up to this point
I thought the chapter was bad but I gotta say, the Flowery fight is probably my favorite in the whole game so far.
>>741826704It's not even about capability, the Alphabet mob would rake him over the coals if he pulled it off.
Oh great, it's not just a body dysmorphia thing, it's also fucking DID.3Tries, is it just me or this super boss kinda piss easy
ANON, PLEASE REPOST THE "SPOILERS OUT OF CONTEXT" MEME
>Chapter 2.>Susie overhears MK and Snowy mention something bad about Kris, with zero context or information of what exactly they were criticizing.>This is enough for her to physically intimidate them and set them running in fear.>Chapter 4.>Susie asks Noelle about her relationship with Kris.>Noelle hurriedly exclaims she never cared about Kris and they were never close and all those pictures and memorabilia of being together never meant anything and her parents forced her to tolerate Kris.>Susie is not only weirdly ok with this explanation (only focusing on what that means for her own relationship with Noelle) but also she opens the wardrobe to find out Kris was in it and heard it all.>Only thing she does is berate him for making noise then close it in his face with a slam.>Further into chapter 4.>Susie and Kris are advancing through the level, learning about the prophecy as they advance.>Susie reads that the girl finds LOVE.>Fucking dashes forward and leaves Kris alone behind.>Chapter 5.>Susie sidelines and third wheels Kris HARD.>Basically doesn't give a shit about his presence.>This is despite last night being one of the most unpleasant experiences Kris has ever had, and she knows it, she was there, she even felt betrayed too.>Doesn't care anymore because muh Noelle.There's not way Toby. There's no way you can't tell Susie is an otherwise loyal and supportive friend that turns into a raging B I T C H whenever Noelle enters the scene. There's no fucking way you can't tell you're destroying Susie's character over this. There has to be a better reason.And if there really is no better reason, holy fuck, couldn't you at least let Kris have Mew Mew? Susie is even going to ruin that for him, going to stop him from just finding companionship elsehwere?
>>741811718Sounds like you're mad you dont have a gf
>>741827096>>741818212
>Flowery gets an animated introBoo, Tenna did it better. You're old hat.
>>741827081just you, i got absolutely raped by pinkit felt harder than the knight, despite me knowing that couldn't possibly be true
>>741827030well now they're openly dating he's openly their hanger-on and not the potential third member of a threeway, so it's fine to absentmindedly be an asshole to him apparently
>>741827167Thank you
ONION SAN IS FUCKING DEAD
>>741826503>>741826723Timelooping is a popular theory, yeahSome common chapter one theories included things like the following>The chapter 3 shadow mantle being the King's shadow mantle from Chapter 1, and getting it from him when it flies away would have involved time travel/save exploits>Chapter 1 enemies are killable if you craft the Twisted Sword and pass it through the cross-save hole
Notice how every time there's a media with forced dyke/faggot stuff the whole thing gets considered shit. People just don't know how to explain that they don't like gay stuff so they start saying "well the problem isn't the gay thing but it's actually how the plot got handled bla bla bla bla". No, it's like finding a cockroach in your meal. Technically you can eat the meal and ignore the cockroach. But you can't shake off the feelings that there was a cockroach in your launch. People don't like yuri but in this jewish economy, it's mandatory and you have to gulp it down...
>>741827258Gaster is cold for sending goners after onionsan, and feeling him to people
>>741824552Two? Are you talking about chapter 1 because 2,3 and 4 were all solid.
>>741826462Yeah between berdly, susie, and catti it's just obnoxious at this point.
My biggest gripe>Chapter 5 DELTARUNE logo has sung vocals>Not a single vocal track that actually uses that ensembleI WANTED LYRICS! NOT A SING-ALONG AT THE TOP OF THE SCREEN. FLOWERY'S THEME IS SHIT BY THE WAY
>>741825459Only character design I found even remotely appealing this chapter and ofc she's child-coded to hell and back
>>741826704jokes on you, I've been saying that since chapter 2
>>741827258you know i realized that onionsan may have saved them in WR. Pretty sure he's optional and missable tho...
>>741826704steven universe literally got away with a toxic lesbian relationship that caused 99% of the show's conflictswhy do you think it's impossible for deltarune to do the same
I will never understand how people become so parasocially attached to fictional characters in a pixelslop game.
>>741827313Nah. I've seen good gay relationships in media, even ones that had me cheering for them to get closer and closer.The real problem is that for some fucking reason, plenty of writers doing gay romances seem to think the only requirement is that two gay characters exist in each other's proximity. Common interests are not a factor, shared history is not a factor, the only thing needed is that they exist within the same story. They don't even necessarily need to know the other part is gay, they'll somehow psychically find out without talking about it. It's kind of what's happening here, apparently we're now meant to believe that Susie and Noelle have loved each other for a long time before even speaking at all, and after just two conversations it already feels like they'd both die for each other.
>>741827581If, by some miracle, the game starts to frame the yurislop as a bad thing I will go jump into a lake. Mark my wormes.
>>741826781>cruel, and meansusie is literally retarded and oblivious and doesn't know how everything is affecting krisyou didn't pay attention to all the scenes where she makes it clear she deeply cares about him
>>741827258the gooner selling takoyaki that was made of onion was so fuckedpoor bastard not only got got, his corpse was fed to his only friend
>>741827313Anon I dont like it because it's a pointless and poorly written detraction to the overarching plot, and makes me feel bad for both kris and myself.Noelle could be a dude, Susie could be a dude, they both could be dudes, it doesn't change the foundational issue of I don't like the execution of the Toby mandated love triangle, and like even less the sudden shift into two lovers and the third wheel chapter 5 has let it become.>>741827258God rest his soul.
>>741827460>FLOWERY'S THEME IS SHIT BY THE WAYhis theme is great but it's shit without actual vocals
>>741827581and people rightfully shit on steven universe for it's dogshit lesbian romances as welllapis and peridot were so bad sugar herself had to nuke it because it was actively damaging the show
>>741827581culture war tourists genuinely believe "leftists" won't stomach homosexual relationships being portrayed as negative in any wayas if toxic yuri isn't insanely popular
At the VERY least, the new sprites were all comedy gold.
>>741827167>>741818212So it seems that so far the no context spoilers are actually still quite accurate >>741824674So I'm a bit afraid of the "I don't want to play with you anymore" part, after everything with the Suselle shit
>>741827675>susie is literally retarded and obliviousNTA but I think this is a new fucking level of retarded and oblivious. Not because she would necessarily realize she's alienating Kris, I could perfectly believe her doing that on accident, it's how she's doing it after coming off of Chapter 4.I mean, holy fuck, when I was theorizing what the jealousy aspect of Chapter 5 could be, my biggest hunch was that Noelle would get jealous because Susie would want to spend all day long trying to cheer up Kris. I barely contemplated the other way around because Susie ignoring Kris now of all times would make her such a fucking bad friend, and it'd go against everything Susie has been shown valuing and trying to be.AND THEN GUESS WHAT HAPPENED.
>>741827793she should nuke herself tbqhwyf
>>741827746>gave the uwu anime secret boss fucking miku vocals>refused to give the actual final boss vocals despite bothering to write lyricsI don't understand toby.
>>741827882yeah, ralsei raging out at flowery was pretty fun
>>741827675Yeah its pretty clear. Its her big day with Noelle, but she demands Kris joins, and asks him who should do xyz at the fair. She's a dumb kid who doesn't understand or know what she is doing really. Neither does Noelle. I don't think anything the characters have done is out of place, or that it ruins the story. Anons itt literally sperging out because lesbian, which they cant do wish fulfillment with.
So why was there a sun in the Dark World again?
>>741823651If we can't have her, nobody can.
>>741827931she effectively already did by letting retards ruin her show
>>741819732Having had to deal with indie devs for the past 26 years, yeah they really are.
>>741827646Also while talking about gay relationships I've liked, lemme shill the Dofus series a bit.
>>741827646>I've seen good gay relationships in mediaLook, don't wanna delve into irl dynamics here but the only good gay relationships in media are those that copy hetero romances tropes. Gay people irl don't experience those things. You would be surprised on how many gays just think "i'm gay so i can hit on every man". Trust me, i had friends coming out and hang out in my friends group (before being removed from it lmao) and all they did was yapping on how much they wanted to have sex with other men. So if you ask me, what you're saying is unironically accurate for faggots. But i admit that "all of sudden" relationship in general are shit. To be honest i would be pretty bored by both hetero and homosexual unexpected romances because it's a lame way to handle things.
>>741827646i've yet to see yuri in vidya more compelling than these two
>>741827930>the jealousy part never even came into play despite being teased with flowery and ralsei>in fact the flower king fountain is closed completely unceremoniously and nothing happens aside from asgore being kidnappedwhy did this chapter even happen again?
The mew mew fight had slow-loss of control-affectionate mind control and on a non furshit womanThat is, by a wide margin, the best thing to happen this chapeter, and if I don't see r34 flooded I will be bereaved
>>741828172I would have supported Rudygore, but Toby had to FUCKING kill him off before that could happen.
>>741828073And then on the flipside, from the same setting, an hetero relationship that sins of the stuff I'm criticizing.I'm sorry but Yugo and Amalia are fucking SHIT together, and they never had the slightest hint of chemistry or of even particularly caring for each other above anyone else in the group until they suddenly did.Anyway, Deltarune. This chapter was bad.
>>741828246it didn'tch5 is arguably more filler than ch3 was, because at least ch3 introduced the knight, shelter, and explained how the dark worlds worked only plot progression in ch5 was getting an shelter code at the very end of the chapter
sunset of 7 suns 10 years ago > sunset of 7 sons today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJXFox3CaCwunc lost it
>>741828246the prophecy already had a shaky rate of accuracy, i.e. the queen's chariotI genuinely think the prophecy is supposed to be bullshit
>>741828361Dally and eva was better
>>741828360>had to FUCKING kill him off What do you mean? You see them running off out of dark world at the end of the chapter
>>741825350>The story will be all about how Susie took everything he had.Dragons devour everything until slain, after all.
>>741828646Rudy "fell down" which is the same wording used for the monsters that became amalgamates
>>741828645Infinitely. I'm still convinced they only even tried to do YugoxAmalia because Dally and Eva were just so settled that any further romance drama between them that's not who's changing the diapers today would have been ridiculous, but they still wanted to recreate the success.
>>741814134If the prophecy is forcing Suselle who is to say Noelle and Kris weren't fucking like rabbits and the world got rewritten, causing them to be stuck in an endless simulation of fawning over Susie and fulfilling the prophecy. Susie might be aware of the 'original world' and knows they were dating.I mean a major thing in the story is 'dream and reality' meeting. Who is to say Susie isn't the dreamer and reality changed to suit her desires. Making Kris suffer and forcing Noelle to love her.
>>741815923If you make a game that stands out, and you put a little effort into advertising, you will have an audience. I’m not saying it’s easy, but pre-existing reputation isn’t the be-all and end-all. There are millions of people as we speak who are bored and want to be entranced by something, and who pour hours daily surfing every corner of the internet in search of stimulation. If you have a completed product that goes above the bare minimum of “good,” as in not just a slightly more unique RPG or a decently fun 2D platformer, they will find you. And I’m saying this as someone who has seen this happen in real-time, but I won’t say what game.
Non-weird chapter feels like unfiltered ass but I want my man pizzapants to get the girlWhat the fuck do I do
>>741828634I still think queen's chariot is a future event which will be the queen/fun gang ramming her car into a titan
>>741828764if you tell bratty to go up she and pizzapants actually talk for once and maybe go on a date
>741814635I didnt even buy this game when it was big like my dick inside my sexy gemini loveer who stalks me
>>741828764Catty should be with him Bratty is a grade A cunt and deserves less
>>741828764Icecream guy is the better option because it mirrors Kris at the end of chapter 5
desu if deltarune came out with the 2d gimmick in ch 5 from the beginning it would've been game of the century
>Beats mewmew in 2 triesIs this seriously a super boss? What the fuck is this.
>>741828858>>741828889>>741828950I guess I can just SAVE and try them all, but figured (You) would know better. This whole opening sequence is fucking hard to stomach.Thanks lads.
>>741822581>Expect Susie to invite Noelle to the diner soonShe did during one of the scenes in the festival part.
>>741818526i think it could also be explained as things that changed in developmenthitting the mark with the "don't forget" note is insanity too, surely it can't just be luck
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>>741829235or we just apply occam's razor and it was all just a bunch of guessing since most of it was wrongbut deltarue fans are fucking morons who jump at shadows so what do i know
