>be aspiring solo game dev>leverage AI to fill in the gaps you lack the skills for>you can't hire anyone either cuz aspiring solo dev>your game will be cancelled for use of AI>give up making games>be aspiring solo game dev>avoid AI to not get cancelled>people will still assume you've used AI because your end product isn't perfect>no amount of explanation will change their minds, to them you've used AI>give up making gamesThere's no way to win here. You will see the death of indie games as people's stigma against a tool that would empower small indie teams the most will put a chokehold on indie games. The extent to which the tool was used doesn't matter, if it was used, none of your human input has any value anymore, and the best part is that you don't need to use the tool in the first place to be branded as a traitor and have your career ruined. There's no point in trying to create when no matter what tools you've used, someone will decide to destroy your hobby project out of some smug sense of superiority. And even if you document every single creation process to make sure that you have all the proof in the world that you didn't use AI, that's just a humiliation ritual and if some lunatic wants to destroy your game, they will.Everything that remains of the hobby is being destroyed, and once again, it is being destroyed by the same people who engage with the hobby in the first place. This organism is rotting from within and there is no cure.
indian
Hey OP that's cool and all but uhhhhh check my 7
>>741814126thanks for the 7
Ai has provided 0 benefits with only drawbacks. >jobs requiring you to use ai>students are dumber due to ai reliance >electronics more expensive due to ai>water related ai issues>every platform forcing ai into something that worked before(youtube, google etc) I hope everyone who uses and loves Ai dies a painful miserable death.
>>741813948Does this retarded statistic control for the fact that a lot of these games would have sold like shit even without the AI because the people relying on AI suck at making games? The framing that this is the result of some conscious protest when gamers are too fucking stupid and lacking impulse control to protest anything is absurd.
>>741814264Based.
vidya is a dying unc hobby in general zoomoids don't touch that shit
>>741813948That's a real shame but I'm not buying your game
>>741813948good morning
>>741814157lol nice
I only buy a few games a year. Why would I buy one with ai?
>>741813948How do we make this number reach 100%?
>>741813948Using AI as a solo dev should be completely normalized but also those games should be either very cheap or free.Solo devs are exactly the people who should be pushing AI tech in weird directions
>>741813948sorry but..im just not gonna buy ai slophehe
>>741814157
>>741813948you spelled India wrong, retard
>>741814709Why should you buy anything that isn't the biggest AAA blockbuster with that attitude?
>>741814880because he doesn't like dogshit maybe idk
The singularity is here!
>>741814264>Ai has provided 0 benefitsCircular argument. You see an AI tip that you don't have to read or built-in youtube auto-translation as "forcing ai". >you pre-emptively decided that AI is a drawback -> therefore it existing at all is "pushing it" -> merely looking at it is a drawback -> there are only drawbacks and no benefit.
You will live to see witch hunts, where honest to god developers who went out of their way to not use AI in their work, will be persecuted and crucified on the court of public opinion, just because someone felt like this one asset was AI generated. No proof will be needed, no defense will be possible, and that will be the death of indie games. People will stop creating as they won't be willing to walk on eggshells like this. And everyone who scuffed at this idea, including anons ITT, will then go on and moan about the industry being more and more dead, having less and less games, but never will they admit that their mindless hatred of AI ended up hurting the people they pretended to care about the most: honest to god human creators that would never touch a single AI tool in their life.Feel free to spam the same three canned responses. You'll see that I was right. That you were the undoing of your own hobby, and you've done everything in your power to eradicate every last bit of good out of it.
luddites always lose longterm
>>741813948>you can't hire anyone either cuz aspiring solo devIndie musicians usually charge $50 to $200 per minute of music. You can get a complete soundtrack unique to your game for less than $10k. Graphics are more expensive, but you should be able to fit your hero assets within another $10k. You will recoup these costs easily if your game isn't shit. Any other gaps you have can be covered with bought or free assets which no-one will notice, and even if they do, they're free of the stigma that will remain an issue for at least another couple years.>people will still assume you've used AI because your end product isn't perfectDoesn't happen, you're just a schizo looking for excuses.
>>741815107You're not going to tell me the order in which things happened then assign a fallacy. Youtube literally added a full LLM chat ai to the platform retard. I have no interest in it and want it gone entirely. When I google something I don't want Ak answers from reddit. I want to read and form my own opinion, and even MORE so I don't want google popping up every other search asking me to enable Ai mode. Which if I accidentally click due to it being in the middle of the fucking screen I have to to go manually disable it, again. I don't want Ai art flooding my search results, period. Translation is the ONLY positive to come from it and I'd rather just use deepL myself anyway. You and the other Aijeets deserve death.
>>741813948>be gay retarded indian>too lazy to put in effort into learning how to do shit>use ai >people notice ai and don't buy the shit game>cry like a bitch and blame it on hysteriamany such cases
>>741813948>may be>exact numbers are hard to pin down>Steam doesn't publicly disclose sales figures>'analyst' uses review count insteadIt's a nothing burger bullshit clickbait article by some literally who with shoddy, at best, research methodology.You will always have a tiny percentage of people who go rabid at being told a game contains AI anything. Most people will reject a game if it's very obviously AI slop everywhere, but it has to be blatant. And normalfags almost always don't care so long as the game is fun to them.I use AI for audio generation because I can't into music and I don't want to go through the pain in the ass of hiring a lawyer to write a contract for me to hire someone, and I don't want to use third party existing tracks right now. And these new AI disclosure rules are going to be real interesting when you see shit like Witcher 4 almost certainly have to slap it on there, because AI is so completely pervasive in most companies.t. indie dev
>>741815707>Translation is the ONLY positive to come from itlol
>>741815707Google keeps linking to reddit lol. That is why I switched engines and use Yandex.
>>741816891Yandex kept fucking me with slowass captchas every time I try to use it, so I went back to Duckduckgo.
Made a personal skyrim mod with AI. S'cool.
>>741813948sorry mutahar but im not buying your slop
>>741813948ONLY 53%? This will be a lot higher when steam updates to let your filter out AI games
>>741813948if indies were smart they would just liewho's going to know if they asked claude for help writing some function or some other invisible bullshit? no one so there you go
>>741817229has anyone AI'd his voice saying "Ladies n gentlemen I just shit on the street"
>>741814928He only plays a few games a year, he can't tell dogshit from not dogshit, he's basically a non-gamer
>>741813948>eat the slop or the heckin indies won't make more games!that doesn't work for the corpos, and it certainly won't work for the indies
>>741815707JUST realize that every time a company forces you to use AI they spend their own money on that compute. You are literally costing them money just by using their service for free, how does that not make you feel good? Let's add more random AI stuff to every website and let's have billionaires pay for it
>>741817361AI can audit code and determine if it was written by AI. >but the player doesnt have access to the code!but steam does, and steam will audit it
>>741813948That's what I WANT to happen, you retarded slop whiteknighting faggot.Video games need a hard reset that will purge everything killing them.
>>741813948>AI slop good!No. Stop making things unaffordable first.
>>741817532Hello nigger. Do you think you have to upload your source code to publish a video game on steam? lol
I dont understand. We've had an "indie scene" since long before AI. Why would that stop even if it was true you couldn't get sales if you use it?
>>741817532that's not happening
>>741813948curry hands typed this post
>>741814390Pretty much. A bunch of the AI made games are plain dogshit and they wouldnt have been great if the assets were done by hand
>>741815687Just spend $20k! Duh! Why didn’t I think of that!
>>741817641>Why would that stop even if it was true you couldn't get sales if you use it?is just indians like OP complaining about it
>>741817519my company has decided to go all in pushing AI, and they just spent the last two days pushing propaganda at us about how great it is (despite just finishing a round of layoffs they SWEAR wasn't because of the rising cost of our AI use)and the funniest thing to me was how like 80% of AI/agentic development is putting guardrails around it so the token cost doesn't run away on you
AI shit will eventually just filter itself by not being remarkable. If anyone can make AI shit then that makes AI shit not special and eventually just something people will stop being impressed by. Just like people eventually stopped being impressed by photographs they stop being impressed by AI
i dont make games so i dont care
>>741817641half of the sales pitch for AI is wild speculation that someone is using it right now to surpass you and that the only way to keep up is more AIthey're trying to apply that to the indie scene when it doesn't fucking matter how an indie developer makes the game
>>741817969>and eventually just something people will stop being impressed byIt's already the case because the internet was absolutely flooded with it for years already.
>>741817969the trick is going to be hand crafting the important parts and generating the bulk filler
>>741813948>indie will die if you don't support AItwo more weeks, right?
>>741813948It's simpleDon't use AIUse free assets and royalty free music if you're so poorNot a single AIjeet has ever made an effort to look and realize how effortless it is to get assets.
>>741813948AI is barely even useful for game dev right now. In a few years 99% of game developers will be using it though, when it's actually useful.
>>741813948I think the anti-ai people are really just misunderstanding what "AI" is. It's not "artificial intelligence" like the popular sci fi concept, it's evoking that association as a marketing buzzword. Kind of like how "VR" doesn't match up with the concept of "Vritual Reality" and is just being used as a marketing buzzword for strapping the monitor to you face while waving around a couple of wiimotes. If you've ever used a search engine you don't have a leg to stand on in this anit-ai craze. They think AI means the sci-fi concept, cortana, or HAL 900 and it will ever be capable of replacing humans, when all it is in reality is advanced search indexing. Kind of backfired calling it "AI", the engineers who created it knew that it's nowhere near what the popular concept of AI is. All these people fighting AI think they are fighting skynet when really they are fighting yahoo search engine but better. A paper tiger they believe is a threat because they've seen too many scary movies with evil AI and don't understand what it is mechanically.
>>741818334No anon, that's not what people think.
>>741814264Don't cut yourself on that edge.
you will never be a superpower
Steam needs to go back to not letting indie games on their platform
>>741813948You are brown
>>741813948They will call you an indian but they won't say you're wrong
>>741813948>people will still assume you've used AI because your end product isn't perfectThat doesn't really happen. There's a looooot more cases of people lying about using AI than people falsely accused of using AI.
>>741818398I've met pro-AI and anti-AI people who argue for or against it because they believe it is the popular scifi concept rather than a misnomer to generate hype among people who don't understand that it's just search indexing. There'd really be no controversy at all if people understood how it works.
>>741814264t. unemployed basement dweller who thinks he's a woman
>>741818449faggot
there is nothing wrong with using AI when making video games
>>741818639No you haven't anon, nobody's argument against AI is a movie.
Here's your ai game
>>741818676exactly, and theres nothing wrong with me wanting to filter all games and art that use AI.
>>741818334no, the reason I'm against AI has nothing to do with the tech itself and everything to do with the juice not being worth the squeezeit's not worth slapping hundreds of data centers together as fast as you can, crippling an infrastructure that can barely handle the load it has right nowit's not worth hitching a third of the US economy on while still looking for a profitable use casewe bought the sales pitch hook, line, and sinker and we have no idea what kind of lasting damage that's going to cause
>>741813948Not really, most people don't care at all about Ai if the product is good quality, a ragtag handful bunch of activists wont do shit.
>>741817737Yes. You're making a good game and you're not a third worlder, right, anon?
>>741813948>>people will still assume you've used AI because your end product isn't perfect>>no amount of explanation will change their minds, to them you've used AIthis doesn't happen thoughbeit
>>741818687Not him but you really should talk to other people dude... those kinds of takes are normal as fuck.>>741818639Most of the arguments against AI art are fucking retarded but the people making them do understand the idea of feeding it data which they call theft. So no, the controversy isn't going anywhere, the problem is that they equate it with theft like retards instead of looking at it as an extension of the human using it.
To be perfectly honest with you OP, I'm not anti-AI. You're just really fucking annoying and everything you post is spam.
>>741813948Just don't make a game then
>>741815107>You see an AI tip that you don't have to read or built-in youtube auto-translation as "forcing ai".I see the first 10 pages of any Google search being literally, not exaggerating, 90% hole-in-the-wall marketing or 'business' sites with walls of ChatGPT that just hit enough keywords to push them to the front page without having any actual information I'm looking for. I don't need to preemptively dislike AI to hate that.
>you have to like and buy my product!!welcome to the real world AI sirs
>>741818834I talk to people in real life, nobody thinks that. Get outside once in a while and meet real people with real opinions.
>>741813948I don't hate AI just because it's AI. I just think that the savings gained from using AI should trickle down to me, so the games should be much cheaper. Simple as.
>>741815687royalty free music libraries exist, you can give your game audio for literally free.same with sound effect libraries and visual assets.if you are too stubborn and want an original soundtrack, you're gonna have to either do it yourself like Pixel did or collaborate with someone, there are hundreds upon hundreds of starving soundcloud artists you could reach out to in order to work out a deal like Dennaton did.Anyone who wants to lazily lean on AI for this or bemoan costs isn't actually trying and their game will show just as little care into it's development.If you really cared about your game you'd get it done by whatever means because you'd put in effort. AI isn't effort.
>>741814264>>jobs requiring you to use aiget a different job or enjoy easier work>>students are dumber due to ai reliance this has literally nothing to do with AI, the education system is meant to breed retards and has been doing a great job at it for decades>>electronics more expensive due to aijust say jews>>water related ai issuesno one cares burger>>every platform forcing ai into something that worked before(youtube, google etc)google is vastly improved thanks to its AI
>>741817519If ai was good, trustworthy or useful, corporations would not be literally begging on their knees to force it everywhere.
>>741818970I heard two people talk about AI going to fuck us because they saw movies about it literally today.
>>741815107youtube auto-dubbing is atrocious and I hate that they don't let viewers opt out of it
>>741819062No, you didn't.
>>741818315Royalty free music can be really good honestly. At least once I found myself looking up music from a game to find that it was actually royalty free.The challenge with it is spending the time looking around for something that fits well.
>>741819080Yes I did.
>>741818650>>741819002Good morning saars
>>741813948Anti AI shit is a cult.
>>741815107anon, recommendation algorithms and natural language processing are not "AI".
>>741819189yes they areAI is whenever a computer does something intelligent, computers are AI fundamentally, that's the entire point of them
>>741819169be quiet retard
>>741813948AI is for fun. I don't think it ever should have been used for profit. It's great for making approximations of ideas, and if you want to make something out of the idea you then make it intentional yourself. If they're going to use something as a placeholder, then that beta should never make it out of the office. Nobody would have known if they had just put it there in development, and then upon alpha release, have had a modeler make the actual asset. I think that's really key here. When they leave it in by the time it makes it into the customer's hands, it looks lazy. Like they took a shortcut to cut costs. It's understandable that someone might feel cheated, even if it's just something minor. If you're going to sell something, I strongly suggest you quietly use ai and then never say a word.
They just don't like badly made games, they've got nothing against AI. (Other than the crazy people who are either leftist agitators or third world astroturfers.)It sort of reminds me of Unity's reputation. It's easy to use, so many new developers use it. And that leads people into creating a false causation, that the engine means a game is bad.You only need a few well-made games that go hard with AI to turn things around. Need the Cuphead/Hollow Knight/Subnautica of AI.
>>741819138No proof, didn't happen. This is an imaginary opposition you created to soothe yourself, because you're afraid of any actual argument against AI. And I'm not even against AI.
>>741813948Ok but I'm still enjoying several indie games that don't use AI that are relatively new.Anyway, I don't care if you use it for coding (if the game works and isn't a buggy piece of shit you can't fix because you didn't write the code at least), I just don't want to see any of it in the end product on the user side. AI visuals are hideous and inconsistent, the music sounds like raw ass if it contains vocals, and AI voicing sounds like shit too. It's just too low quality for me to spend on.Moreover, if it reduced your dev cost, if you want me to pay for it, I demand a lower price. You did not have to pay other people, so I want a benefit as the consumer.
>losers try to cancel you>don't care>no problemsit's that easy
>>741813948The indie scene was doing just fine before AI. There's no such thing as lacking skills. Skills can be learned. My favorite indie game was made by a solo dev who learned the skills he was lacking and made the game of his dreams a reality.You just need to accept your game doesn't appeal to everyone. That goes for any aspect. Genre, setting, soundtrack, art style, game engine, AI use, even the store you sell it on. Use AI if you want, but thinking everyone should want your game is a cancerous mindset that's been destroying niche franchises for way too long. You are not entitled to anyone's patronage
>>741813948Just use Ai anyway, plenty of people aren't mentally ill.
I have never enjoyed anything produced by AI and if you include it in your product I’m going to correctly assume it’s because you’re cheap and unskilled.The only impact AI has had on my life is that I now have to wade through the veritible ocean of pure shit it has produced.
>>741819325Well I'm pro AI myself so you can stop being a fag if we're not on opposite sides. I've seen both sides frequently.>>741819423Indies will be trillions of times better when AI starts getting good for games. TRILLIONS.
>>741818735>it's not worth slapping hundreds of data centers together as fast as you can, crippling an infrastructure that can barely handle the load it has right now>it's not worth hitching a third of the US economy on while still looking for a profitable use caseThat's really just rich idiots who bought into the meme, and you're giving them fuel for their marketing push with your crusade against it. It's a nothingburger, it's a bubble that's going to pop when people realize it's not what it's being marketed as, has no use beyond telling me how to make a chicken sandwich, helping me with coding language i haven't memorized (which i would have just googled anyways) or making me a silly picture, which really only replaces search engines. Everyone who invested heavily in it is going to lose their lunch. You anti-ai people are really clutching them pearls and blowing everything out of proportion, which makes the pro-ai people even more dead set on putting all their eggs in that basket. Both sides are being scammed.
>>741813948Plenty of indie games get made without ai.
>>741819294>>741819350>>741819423what's going on here
>>741814880I mostly buy indie games with interesting gameplay and unique artstyles. Triple a is slop just like ai trash is slop.
>>741819247No, AI is a marketing term for LLMs.
>>741819572>WhenIs a theoretical future a real reason to base our entire lives around the ideatheft pollution machines? Open AI has until 2030 to start paying back all their loans by being profitable or the industry will collapse.
>All these people who swear up and down they can TOTALLY tell if AI is used in a game>Made game with AI and just didn't tell them>Nobody says anything.It helps if you put at least 10% effort into not making everything look like a disjointed mess. Also not using social media where artrannies will fucking sperg at anything that remotely looks AI generated also helps.
>>741819572I'm sorry but I just don't think AAA graphics would contribute much to a game like my summer car
>>741819728LLMs are AIs.
>>741819247No it isn’t you fucking idiot. It’s a marketing term for guessing machines.
>>741819793Yes, it's a marketing term.
>>741819735i am begging you guys to say things that aren't retarded
>>741819697I generated my reply with grok
>>741819793You genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about. By your definition a phone’s autocorrect is an AI.
>>741819189feels like moving the goalposti don't really mind, i'm pretty sure the next 25 years is going to be entirely goalpost moving for the anti-ai crowd.>"finally a GOOD use for AI!">"now THIS this is what AI should be used for!">etc.
>>741819793NTA, It's a misnomer because the term AI already had a usage in scifi as a machine in the image of the human mind, which "LLMS" are not.
>>741819735>Muh OpenAIYou do realize that are other services besides OpenAI and they aren't even considered one of the good options right? Or do you get your entire worldview from schizo posters on X about how datacenters are ltierally sucking up all the water on Earth through a straw?
>>741813948Good
>>741813948SAAR DO THE NEEDFUL DO NOT REDEEM STEAM CARDS
>>741814264truthnuke so large it destroyed india
>>741819797what do image models guess at?
>>741813948If a dev doesn´t care enough to make it why should people care enough to buy it? Being an Indy developer is not about how broke the dev is, that´s the dev´s own problem, it´s about the dev´s personal author vision, it´s unique style or whatever. Being independent is about artistic and creative freedom not about not having the money or skills to be another cog in the corporate machine. Big studios are on it for the money so nobody really expects soul from them anymore, it´s not in their nature, but indy devs are supposedly on it to make games so they should do that, make the game. Can you say you made something if AI made all the decisions for you? Rhetorical question, no you can´t. Using your own knowledge and skills to make all those decisions is what making something is. Considering that, indy devs using AI is just dishonest because an indy dev is more akin to an artisan than corpo slut.
>>741819735OpenAI is irrelevant in this conversation, they aren't leading shit except scams and it's a closed source and worthless company.>>741819783It would but also better music, voice acting, animations, code, art, you name it. There are some good ideas in indie games but they don't have the budget or manpower to make the overall game good but when AI starts being more accessible in game development that will steadily change. There are people making art using AI that are making 5 figures a month and others making literal movies when before AI they were just random people with zero artistic abilities. The same kind of thing will happen to video games eventually.
>>741819845You’re the moron for being so certain for a future that hasn’t materialized even slightly despite every major player of our society moving heaven and earth trying to make it work shoving it down our throats.We are sitting here years into development and trillions of dollars and all you have, the only thing, is that *someday* it won’t be total garbage like it is now.
>>741813948>people will still assume you've used AI because your end product isn't perfectWhoa HOLD IT right there buster. Where is this bullshit coming from and when had it ever occurred??
>>741820040no, it's already not garbage. it will do incredible things in the future, but it's already extremely useful
>>741814264Students have been getting stupider ever since schools stopped forcing kids to put away their phones. I'm not going to let you get away with this narrative.
>>741820027Can you name a single profitable AI company?
>>741819889You're right, retard. You're probably too young to remember that shit blowing people's minds.>>741819840>>741819928The term LLM is already outdated as nobody makes them anymore but it denoted a transformer trained on text only. It's a technical term under the umbrella of AI.
>>741820027>picLet's see those tris counts.
>>741820112if you subtract the investment in future growth and R&D the major companies are all profitable. inference costs are negligible
>>741813948>There's no way to win here.Not my problem.
>>741813948AI is unironically the devil and the worst thing to happen in Human history. I full believe it will cause extinction.
>>741820085Something that’s wrong 20% of the time has no commercial use. Generating pictures of garfield with huge naturals is not “useful”, code that can’t be fixed if something goes wring isn’t “useful”.
>>741819697I typed out my reply by hand slowly as a filthy phoneposter.
>>741817532Steam/Valve does not get access to source code. Absolutely no major publishers would ever agree to that.
>>741819925>feels like moving the goalpost The goalpost is "AI is deceptive marketing speak for computational linear algebra applications", which continues to be planted firmly on the ground.
>>741820234are you posting from 2022? lmao, try using some new gen models
>>741820112Yeah but it's irrelevant. I don't give a fuck about the profits of companies and neither should you. Talk about the technology.>>741820148We obviously aren't there yet or everyone would be using it. It'll keep improving though, look at how it was a couple of years ago.
>>741820176So no you can’t. People were charged only slightly closer to what the tokens actually cost and they rioted. There is no future.
>>741814157woah
every time you refuse to use AI, an indian dies
>>741820339>INDIANS ARE THE AIWhy is every guy who pushes it publicly a rich white dude?
>>741820297idk if you're illiterate or ESL, but "inference costs" refers to the cost of the tokens. AI companies are profitable on that, they charge you more than it costs to generate the response
>AI luddites are so brain drained they're even attacking neural networks which isn't even the same technology as LLMs and has been around for way longer because blueksy troons are so pavloved brained they can't distinguish between different technologies that fall under the AI umbrella.This tech has been around longer than most of the people on this board have been alive.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv6UVOQ0F44
>>741820374what kind of person do you think outsources to india the most?
>>741820426So Sam Altman is Indian now?
>>741819006Thats not a lot. And a lot of these are using gas turbines because tranny sunlight shit doesn't work
>>741819776I'm gonna be honest, at this point I can't tell for everything. Some guy in another thread was posting slop magazine covers and I said I thought they looked neat.At the end of the day though, if you DO find it had AI used and still present in the end user experience, it feels bad. Like you've been tricked into eating a meal that a homeless man with AIDs has ejaculated into during the cooking process.
>>741820374SAAR
>>741820396>Every expert in AI tells you it is dangerous and is going to lead to a bad outcome.>"Hurrrr experts are retarded. TRUST THE PLAN!"Can't wait to die because of faggots who ignore experts. How's the pool going?
>>741820384I know what you meant you’re just making excuses for why no AI company has made a profit. “As long as you don’t consider the main cost of the service they make a profit” is unfathomably fucking stupid.
>>741820005So what's the difference between googling the proper code, or just asking AI?The only difference is you might not have to pay artists to make assets like textures, voices, translations or music because AI can generate those, but you could already generate those things using different programs before AI became the catch-all. Everything that AI can generate could already be generated before, albeit with a few extra steps involved. Previously, If I wanted to make a road texture I would take a close-up picture of a road with a digital camera, transfer it to my computer then apply filters and tile it, AI just cuts out some of the steps. Is it really just the marketing buzzword that's triggered you or does all generation offend you? If I don't build a road from scratch to take a picture of it to apply transformations to it to make a single texture am I not showing the proper level of care? Do you buy food at the grocery store or do you grow it from seed in your backyard?
>>741814264>Ai has provided 0 benefitsGenuinely untrue.Just because you don't use it doesn't mean it has 0 benefits.I've used AI to prompt an image for a D&D character and then took the prompt to an artist to draw with the details I gave them to include. It helped me convey what I wanted and it got an artist money they wouldn't have received without it because before I just grabbed references and didn't bother.
>>741820027>there are some good ideasEveryone has ideas. Ideas are worthless. It doesn't take a big budget to make good games, and when small studios try to punch above their weight it's not the presentation that falls short, it's the design, and AI can't help with that
>>741820529Who says neural networks are bad you fucking moron? Oh wait you probably think AGI and NN are the same thing. Thanks for proving my point faggot.
>>741820552no, you didn't, and it seems still do not, understand what i said. if you only consider the cost of the main service they make a profit. it is the stuff that is not the main service, the investment in future profits, that they are not making money on. that is how investing in future profits works, you lose money now to make more money later. but if they did not do that, if they just offered their service and maintained it in its current state, they would be profitable companies. i hope this has clarified things for you
>low effort schlop mostly doesn't sellWhoa.Page 10
>>741820581Is that really something to base our economy on though? I’m sure it will be around as a tool for some professionals but these people are talking like this garbage will actually change the world.
>>741817532>AI can audit codeJust as with "AI checkers" for written stuff, it has false positives if you do proper citation or find solutions online.
>>741813948if your product using AI was good enough then people would still buy it, people just can't accept that their ideas are shit because they've spent their entire life being "the idea guy"
>>741814126>>741814157SIX SEVEENNNNNNNN
>>741820627You're being obtuse and just ignored my point. Every studio will be able to punch above their weight because of AI. Ideas will matter more.
>>741820694please try setting up and using an agent, something like openclaw. yeah, personal digital assistants that can actually handle day to day tasks for you is worth major economic investment
>>741820671I mean now you’re just lying? The “investments” they’re making are literally necessary to replace to gpus they burn through. There are no profitable AI companies. The entire market is subsidizing token use heavily to get market. They’re trying to up the price and consumers hate it.There is no path to profitability and you’re making up reasons that isn’t the case.
>>741820469>Like you've been tricked into eating a meal that a homeless man with AIDs has ejaculated into during the cooking process.What a bizarre analogy. Why the fuck would ai make you feel like this
>>741820112Anlatan, who runs NovelAI.They run basically the highest quality image generator and actually decent text generator with good features and a lack of censors so they've cornered the market that every other company is afraid of, except the dozens of low quality local models that are set up in third world countries.
>>741820864no, replacing GPUs would be maintenance costs. the investments is building out greater capacity. i don't know where you got the idea that they aren't profitable, but it isn't true.
>>741820469Imagine being so brain rotted that you would retroactively retract any modicum of enjoyment you've gotten out of your pitiful life if you even think about AI to the point where you equate it with eating another man's cum.
>>741813948Good morning sir.
>>741820529>Every "Expert" in AI tells you that you need "Consultation" or it'll lead to bad outcomes
>>741820816Well you ignored my point. There are people that it doesn't appeal to and they aren't wrong for not buying. Treating the whole world as your target market just results in bland, inoffensive slop, and that's without even taking AI into consideration
AI tokens are getting substantially more restrictivewe're in the enshittifying stageit doesn't matter how hecking useful the software is if the juice is not worth the squeeze
>>741813948Mh no. I don't think I will participate in your game of hot potato.
>>741817532>Steam has access to the source code!This is the level of retardation we have to deal with when it comes to engaging with these luddites holy shit...
>>741821021for a website that spammed "pozzed" to every corner of the interbutts, we sure are resistant to calling AI slop "poz" in turn
>>741817617Yes, you fucking retard. Steam scans game contents for malware before its listed. Holy fuck you are dumb.
>>741818334From my observations, the pro-AI crowd is all about consumerism. For them, the end product is all that matters. The methods used to get there, the author, the tools and circumstances around its production etc. are entirely irrelevant as long as the result is something that entertains them. They like AI because it promises to speed up the delivery of new products for them to consume. There's also an overall desire for and expectation of easy profits for producers of AI content, seemingly valued by the dedicated consumers as well.The anti-AI crowd on the other hands views the consumption of media as a wider experience to linger on. That experience frequently includes factors that are external to the actual end product, such as making-of/behind-the-scenes content, lore/wiki, author's input and other works, fan art etc. There is some expectation of a greater intent, message or human touch inherent in the media that elevates the experience for them. Removal of even some of these aspects directly devalues the experience even if the end product itself remains the same.This is where the communication ultimately always breaks down. The pro-AI crowd is unable to comprehend the "experience" because to them, each part of it is a singular product, and most of them aren't fit for their consumption. They simply don't care about the author, his style of delivery, personal touch etc. The anti-AI crowd at the same time is unable to appreciate the throwaway nature of pro-AI content, where the narrow "experience" only really consists of the singular end product, no matter its quality.You see this in music most often, I feel. A music fan will revere a musician's name, his playing style, recordings, merch, live performances and so on, but they'll abandon him if he ever diddles kids, even though the music itself is still good. A pro-AI guy will just prompt Suno for something that sounds nice enough playing in the background. All else is irrelevant to him.
>>741813948Indies were doing just fine before AI.
>>741821156>There are people that it doesn't appeal to and they aren't wrong for not buying.These people will be forgotten and mocked when you remember that was a thing. They're as relevant as people saying they wouldn't buy 3D games or games with voice acting, remember those retards?
>>741821180i figure long term you pay for the big boy tokens for productive stuff and use local models for porn generation or whatever. open source will be behind the latest corporate models, but it'll be good enough for most of that kind of stuff
>>741821003Have you actually checked the financial statements besides repeating that with total confidence? The current market is an incestuous series of loans to one another because they don’t make any money doing this.There are no profitable AI companies. If we allowed for your bullshit conceit that if you don’t allow for certain expenses they would make money it still wouldn’t be true.There are no profitable AI companies or they would be screaming from the rooftops about ROI instead of doing everything they can to hide the impending collapse.
>>741821367alright man, you hold on to that hope
>>741820816Every studio will be shitting out Samson while trying to be the next GTA because people who only think without doing can't identify design flaws
>>741814264Based. Hating AI transcends left right tranny woke all that shit. You're either pro or anti humanity/civilization
>>741821364probably AI is going to be *only* local models in the next 5-10 since corporate forcing of the tech keeps proving to be way more expensive than just not using it
>>741820830No I’m not going to pay to outsource my thinking to something that can be wrong all the time.
>>741820581>Errmm I use it to roleplay in tabletop it's actually very useful Kill yourself worthless feeder
>>741820241keep moving, keep going, a little to the left, not quite, it's crooked, etc.
>>741821352I do remember those retards, and they are entitled to their preferences. Not buying Mario 64 didn't make them economic terrorists
>>741821312This redditnigger thinks he can just waltz in here dump a big fat double spaced turd and think nobody's going to notice.
>>741815147Shouldn't have used AI then, jeet. Don't blame consumers but the big corporation niggers who from day 1 chose to act dishonestly and not state whether they relied on AI. Get fucked subhuman prompter
>>741814264falsenuke
>>741820581Couldn't you use your words to convey what you wanted to the artist? It's not like the AI pulled the image from your thoughts
>>741821403Yeah I knew actually checking if something is true would be too much for you. I hope you’re being paid for this.
And that's a good thingthere are too many low quality indie games already
>>741821601I had to prune it to make it fit the 2000 character limit, even. But hey, every (You) is a win.
>>741814264Me getting raped by futa Malo in a corrupted forest is a big advantage for the AI.
>>741821285>Steam scans game contents for malware before its listed. We're talking about scanning games to see if they're written by AI. You can scan byte or machine code to detect malware, yes. Good luck doing that to detect AI-written code. Detecting it with the source code is plausible because you have variable names, comments, and other structure to work with. Most of that is not necessary to upload to publish your game, even with unity or godot. Not sure why you're deflecting to this "malware" thing.
>>741821692But what if I could pay for a completely unnecessary extra step?
>>741813948It is not indie if it AI you retard. Jeets using their openai free package to make games does not count as indie.
>>741815147Chill your balls. There's been plenty of bullshit claims thrown at devs and indie games never died
>>741821541>The only thing I can think of using AI for is childish things and gooning therefore it's bad!And these are the retards saying AI users can't think for themselves.
if AI is trained off the internet.And the internet has gotten significantly more brown and 3rd world in the last 10 years.AI = brown third worldBrown people are using AI trained off other brown people
>>741813948I'd rather have the indie game scene die, and at that point I'd just give up on new releases entirely. You might not know, but wanting to goon in peace and finding new images of a character you like on boorus etc has become really tiresome even with anti AI filters activated. Pixiv isn't doing its job because a lot of artists just flat out refuse to disclose it.I fucking hate this shit man, especially because it's somehow the low effort AI slop that goes through the filters and not the art that you can tell was AI-generated, but curated with great care. Said pictures still don't look as good as something made 100% manually but they are better.Going back to AI it's just like information and propaganda. You know things are really fucked up when people just refuse to engage entirelu and choose not to bother because it requires too much effort to tell between what's actually "real" and what has been 100% fabricated or generated. It's indeed over and greedy kikes are to blame, not the consumers
>>741813948>leverage AI to fill in the gaps you lack the skills forShan't buy your game then.Simple. Ass./thread/fpbp
>>741820694Much like the dot com bubble in the early 2000's, I think things can be grossly overhyped and built up on promises you can't fulfill, and investors will run wild thinking they're striking gold on promises, but, again, even after the bubble burst, the internet persisted and grew in importance, use, and integration, just a lot of the pie in the sky nonsense was filtered out (Pay per Page, Pay Per Search, subscriptions for every website, etc) and we were left with the internet we got circa 2002-2007, until Facebook pivoted the scene to be the modern current internet.AI has plenty of good uses, mostly locally run agents and locally run generators, I enjoy a good image generator I run on my computer for personal usage, and I've commissioned on pieces I like because I want specificity and it's easier to go "Here's reference, and here's a list of the details I want that the AI can't get" and get a proper reference sheet made. Local agents that don't connect to the internet can also be used for things like helping proofread code, quick editing different things, sorting my emails (I had a few receipts I lost in my fucked up mess of an email that it helped find) and a few other uses, but I think the massive "AI services" are probably doomed, even if local AI has a place to be integrated and work, voluntarily.
>>741814264>Ai has provided 0 benefits with only drawbacks.AI does my job for me while I browse 4chan on my phone
>>741814264You use AI idiot, every single software company has been using AI on an industrial scale to code their existing and new products for the past two years. Nobody gives a fuck about all the devs getting laid off and all dev jobs being replaced by AI but suddenly when an unemployed dev tries to make his own product with AI it’s a huge issue for you retards because it’s le wasting water.
>>741821312reddit is that-a-way, buddy pal friend
>>741821968>I browse 4chan on my phoneHuge drawback for the site
>correlation is causation!
>>741821790I didn't pay for it, I locally generated it.
>>741821835Gooning is the one thing I appreciate about AI. Artists can't make photorealistic furry or /d/ porn so it actually has something to offer that I can't just "prompt" from a booru search bar
>>741814264AI has made researching shit for my job easier, but I still go through and verify all the sources so it's not like it's truly faster.
>>741821967>I've commissioned on pieces I like because I want specificityGonna share with the class?
>>741821905AI is to porn art what social media was to the internet.Gives everyone a "voice"Turns out not everyone deserves a "voice", most people are fucking retarded and they have a negative effect.
>>741821494There's free agents you can run locally to do things that aren't "Thinking for you", including hashing out problems with your own coding work as well as organizing and sorting things.Think for yourself and stop outsourcing your thinking to bluesky and twitter, man.
>>741813948>be aspiring solo game dev>give literally zero fucks, use ai for everything>end product game manages to be fun, literally all that matters, every normie buys your new ai friendslop, troons roping and seething online about aithat's how it'd go and you'd know that if you weren't a fucking retard
>>741813948I wouldn't give a shit about AI one way or the other if it wasn't for the fact it's made prices for PC components skyrocket. For that reason alone, fuck AI.
>>741813948good. AI has turned the kengan omega manga into a complete joke, reading new chapters every week feels like a a fever dream (and that's not a good thing)both the artist and writer are relying on AI and it shows, it's actually horriblerather kill the indie game scene than see the medium you love become a walking zombie that is only made good by collective schizo anon ramblings on imageboards to try and extract meaning out of an inherently soulless creation
>>741819776Pics or it didn't happen.
>>741819002Google FUCKING SUCKS now with those shitty AI overviews. You're so wrong.
>>741813948Good. The collapse of the indie market would be great. Meanwhile AAA games will thrive from AI use.
If you want to use AI for art assets you'll need to have really good taste, and if you have good taste you can do A LOT without AI already, even if you can't draw or model properlyIf you want to use AI code no one cares, it's menial labor and if you can make it work with slopped up code then good for youand if you use AI for story just kill yourself
>>741822116This is a fact and those worthless or even degenerative voices need silenced.
>>741821312This was written by GPTbut the point the post is making is still solid. AIjeets are literally pic rel
>>741813948If the game is good then nobody of importance will care.
>>741814264Based
>>741814264Fuck off tranpshobic incelAI WILL MAKE ME A WOMAN
>>741814390>Does this retarded statistic control for the fact that a lot of these games would have sold like shit even without the AI because the people relying on AI suck at making games?obviously not
>>741814126>>741814157HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
>>741813948>>be aspiring solo game devKWAB game DOA
>>741822418>If you want to use AI code no one cares, it's menial labor and if you can make it work with slopped up code then good for youbut that's the thing, even for tasks that are understandably boring AI doesn't succeedwindows11 being so shitty is a great exampleyou don't know this but the french torrenting scene has been in a pitiful state for a few months because a big monolith died recently, and all of the replacement websites can't keep up because they are obviously vibe-codedeven for productive tasks, AI just sucks and you will need to invest more time in correcting its mistakes to get the specific outputs you want.
>>741814264>Ai has provided 0 benefits with only drawbacks.False, my job is like 10x easier now thanks to AI, and I'm also basically impossible to replace since new grads are dumb as fuck
>>741822367Google fucking sucked because of 2 decades of rampant SEO filling your results with a handful of websites. The AI is a vast improvement if what you are searching for would have ended up on page 2 due to marketing faggots ruining shit.
>>741813948false dichotomymaybe don't use AI and make a good game?
corporate memphis never got as much hate as AI schlop even though it's way uglier and sinister inside. But then again, leftoids love corpos.
>>741821312>cult of personality vs efficiencyIt's the same argument that can be made against buying furniture at IKEA instead of buying handmade chairs from a local craftsman, and the market has shown that most people don't care if the place where they stick their ass was made by an artisan or was made in a factory. Same sentiment, I understand the sentiment, I too prefer handmade but where do you draw the line? If a person used power tools instead of hand tools to make a chair is that not soulful enough for your royal ass? I just don't appreciate the fearmongering and sham enthusiasm coming from both sides of this ridiculous manufactured outrage. The way I look at it AI is as a fairly useful tool, if I have a skill saw I much prefer using it to a handsaw because the intent is still there whether or not I struggled with antiquated methods to make the end product. When it comes to programming help, improving efficiency or simplifying workflow AI is great, the only problem is that it's being equated with the end of the world by charlatans and being equated as the second coming of Jesus by other charlatans. In the end, after the dust settles, I think there will be a dedicated group of hipsters who refuse AI on principle, just like there are people who still exclusively play games on retro consoles because they appreciate the method in which these games were made over the end product.
>>741813948literally all games developed in the past 2 years have used gen AI
>>741813948too long, didn't read, nobody cares jeet, your AI slop indie game probably sucked ass anyway
>>741822605>Thanks for doing your job so well, anon. You've done it so well, now you can manage all these projects and the new grads working on them. This is an on-the-spot promotion you can't decline!
>>741813948>Indie scene was fine before AI>But being against AI will destroy itYeah
>>741822686E33 and Arc Raiders are not "literally all games".
AI just sucks because you can tell it's not trying to imitate unique things but corporate slop. Like for westoid artstyle it tries to imitate warcraft/clash of clans and for anime it looks like those weird HD 3D CG pictures you'd see in certain H-games or out of touch promotional material. It's just soulless
>>741822192>This thing that has never happened is proof that I'm not a retard!
>>741813948 kys jeetindie games existed before slop, it's not impossiblei want the barrier of entry to be relatively high
>>741820581>i have no creativity or imagination>i had the AI generate something for me>this is usefulIf the only usecase for genAI is for people like you to basically larp as creatives without having to put in any effort at all, then thats not really something you want to be arguing. You are basically admitting that you failed as a human utterly completely and are just an npc. You have no soul, no spark, nothing at all that makes you special. You might as well not even exist if you have to ever ask an AI to be creative for you.
>>741822779if you seriously think other games haven't used it you're completely braindead
>>741813948just give it some time, normalfags always reject new tech before becoming pathologically obsessed with it
The fact you just used the word "leverage" unironically means I'm for whatever makes you upset/angry
>>741814126>>741814157epic. shitskin OP decimated
>>741822192>shit that has never happened and will never happen
>>741822837I can start believing your fanfiction as soon as you post the proof saar
>>741822737What the fuck are you on about you unemployed schizophrenic.
>>741822506troons are the ones that hate AI because they can't bully a machine that operates on logic alone into calling them xhir/xher
>>741822632Yes, the AI is definitely giving me an objective response without any sort of promotion going on.Also, I'd rather scour StackOverflow and follow the breadcrumbs of context rather than have an AI return the shittiest, contextless responses possible. At least I'm learning something about the thing I'm working on.
>>741822915LLMS are all literally designed to support transgenderism ideology though, are you fucking retarded?
>>741822594AI code is good for boiler plate slop, basically the same as buying a plugin for something to save time on.I use it in isolated scenarios, but I would never use AI code in anything connected to other code.The issue is, even if it was 10 times better people who're obsessed with AI are fucking stupid.t. was optimistic about the technology, but never expected what kind of people will use it the most
>>741813948people don’t want to pay money for something you made with a fucking prompt. they want to buy the thing from the guy that poured blood, sweat and tears into his work
>>741814264This has always been the plan, to destroy the future generations and make them subservient to subscription based services. Imagine your kids not knowing how to think for themselves without asking chatgpt. A literal fucking caste system is going to happen.
>>741822971the research says otherwise xir
>>741822905Seems like you get passed over often. I'm not surprised - you barely do your job.
>>741822108I'm on a new computer and haven't moved over the high quality version but here's the thumbnail from the trailer put together to "debut" the art, if the thread doesn't 404 by the time I get my other computer plugged in, I'll post it in high quality. It's two of my characters, one was from an incomplete campaign and I reworked it to be an alt timeline of that character.
>AIslopper deliberately trying to muddy the waters
AI is literally grooming queer folx into being straight, this is called genocide.
>>741823007ok anon, pic an LLM of choice, ask if it it supports transgenderism and ask it why it does or not, then get back to us with the results! Also theres no point in trying to shoop any results as literally anyone can verify if you are lying or not.
>>741818334>Normies think AI is terminator not text predictorAnd whose fucking fault is that hmm?? Fucking Dario Amogay!!
>>741814264If only our wishes would come true.I can only hope a true super coronal mass ejection from the sun wipes out AI forever
>>741822901kek unemployed retard
>>741822594>but that's the thing, even for tasks that are understandably boring AI doesn't succeedAI is perfectly fine at coding so long as you do more than 50% of the work. AI works really well when you give it actual bones to work around.The big problem with jeet code is they do 5% of the work at best, and they prompt jockey and try to txt2code, which gives poor results at best.Just like how with image generation, img2img and controlnet and sketch works significantly better, while txt2img is sloppier, and same with music like suno.
>>741823074Not gonna lie, I was expecting porn, not autism.
>>741823190>same with music like suno.>retard unironically thinks a single AI generated song has EVER been goodholy shit lol
>>741823014jfc what is this reddit ass post holy shit
>>741822971LLMs don't have the capacity to "support" anything.
>>741813948>AI art is unethical because it steals from other artists! It's IP theft!>Okay but what about all those people who got famous from making animations based off of famous IP on Newgrounds?>And those people who ripped sprites and used them 1:1 to make their web comics and cartoons? Many of which would go on to be monetized?>And what about all those SFM animators and Porn artists that just rip models from games?>And what about all those people who hack games to make their own games? Never mind the fact that Toby Fox literally built his career off of Earthbound romhacks before Undertale?>And what about artists who go to cons and artist corners and sell fanart and merch of licensed characters they definitely didn't get merchandising rights for? ESPECIALLY the ones that sell R18+ of children's cartoons?>And what about the fact that 90% of Hip Hop, EDM, IDM, Vaporwave, Pop, etc. is built around a culture of sampling, usually unaccredited? Hell Drum and Bass practically owes it's entire existence to stealing the Amen Break?>And what about the fact almost half of video game covers, sprites, and characters were just traced wholesale from 80's movies? AND a large number of memorable video game music uses motifs stolen from popular music TO THE POINT WHERE THE MGS SERIES LOST IT'S ICONIC THEME BECAUSE IT WAS LITERAL PLAGIARISM?I'd have more respect for these if they just admitted that the only reason they hate AI is because they hate Sam Altman, or that it looks bad (if they can even recognize it), or that other people have made more money off of it than they have, but to say you have some kind of principled stance or "ethics" is fucking retarded when the entire foundation of art was built on top of people copying from each other.
>>741813948so like 53% less sales but also 80% less dev costAnd if you just keep printing AI games eventually the 53% less sale wont matter, you produce two games in the time of one.
>>741822817Massive projection. I picked up drawing after I found prompting fun, because I was unsatisifed with the lack of specificity from AI, and wanted to do more. I still find prompting fun for quick ideas, but when I want something personal, I either draw it or pay someone else to draw it as I describe it to them.>No... No, you can't do that! You have to be what I imagine you to be or I'll feel inadequate! Sorry bud. Not the guy you want to be mad at.
AIjeets are having a melty...
>>741823123Okay
>>741820893>>741821021Alright, well the point is that you have consumed something that you do not want that makes you upset when you find out but is otherwise harmless (assuming the cum was cooked until whatever was in it is dead). The AI isn't palatable when you know it's there but isn't actively harming your experience if you don't know.Thus when people find out they get mad.
Why people who make videogames for money and money only don't do something easier? Fraud or commerce related jobs are printing money and are less effort than spamming AI slop games on steam.
>>741823238At least you know I'm being truthful with it. >>741823252I didn't say it was good, I said there's a notable improvement between txt2song and offering bones with hand written lyrics and building a sound profile. >But it's ALL SLOP!Stop being a dense nigger trying to pick a fight when I'm not trying to fight, I'm arguing that human contribution makes things better, and full human contribution is still the best.
>>741823261yes they do. Why even bother lying lol. Notice how you refused to give a single example of a single LLM because you knew someone would just go ask it.
>>741823252You're a moron of unthinkable proportions. You could put lots of AI created tracks in front of people and few could tell the difference, especially if's fully instrumental.
>>741819591That would be nice, but in the meanwhile, it's fucking up everything because of these idiots' insistance on shoving it into every product imaginable, in every place possible. Everything we use is becoming absolutely infested with this shit for no discernably good reason. AI in your browser, AI in your streaming device(roku is now doing this,) AI in your toaster, AI on your icemaker, AI in your car, AI on your dragon dildo.When the bubble pops, sure, great, the bubble popped. Guess what? Everyone left holding the bag has to deal with this mess. Some of it will be able to be fixed. Most of it never will be, because it won't be financially feasible. It'll just remain broken forever.
>>741823353This gives literally 0 context. What model is this? What instructions was it given before hand?
>>741823375>the point is that you have consumed something that you do not want that makes you upset when you find outWere you the kind of kid that shit his pants with rage when you found out your mom's meat casserole had veggies in it?
>>741813948>NOOO YOU HAVE TO BUY MY ASSET FLIP SLOPPILY GLUED TOGETHER WITH AII'm good
>>741823447Then strive for the best and don't half-ass your life experiences. You would have a better sense of composition and art if you actually went through the slow process of learning your craft and not taking shortcuts.
>>741823526It's Gab and that was literally my first interaction with it
>>741823517ok anon show me a single good ai generated song then.
>>741823274That's my biggest gripe with anti AI types, I'm fully welcome to and open to "The quality is bad and you can spam it with little effort and automate a workflow to overwhelm human artists" as that is a totally valid and real concern, but the "You're STEALING!" is such a bullshit moral high horse from the people most likely to bitch about AI.
>>741823274For your own sanity I hope Ai wrote all that.
>>741823463You don't know the meaning of words you use, a disease of this site. A printer printing 'troon rights' paper does not equal to it supporting mental illness.
>>741823447>At least you know I'm being truthful with it.Well, I'm still curious where that'll go though.
>>741822506>>741822915>>741823007>>741823261>>741823353>>741823571YWNBAW, aitroon
>>741813948>be low-standards slopper>get shit on for being a low-standards slopperAll is right in the world.
>>741823156>And whose fucking fault is that hmmCharlatans mostly. People who should have known better, but knew that marketing a product as AI would get people's jimmies rustled and did it anyways.
>>741823526>What instructions was it given before hand?What instructions were given the models you claim 'support' troony loonies?
>>741813948If you didn't bother to make the game, why should I bother to buy the game?
>>741823595>LLM shill literally shows the reason why LLMS are retarded in his own argument
>>741823587>validyou talk like a fag
>>741815107Disingenuous drivel like most responses to this objectively correct opinion, in 3/5 of personal use cases just this week, trying to use AI to solve an actual problem faced on a normal day caused the issues to waste so much time that I had to have a conversation with it like a coach or a team manager to even get something done, and in one particular case it performed so badly I had fixed the issue before it could. To tell me that thing is going to be responsible for actual serious, daily use, especially in the weeds, is completely unserious.
>>741822681>the market has shown that most people don't careI think it's a case of affordability. The handmade stuff tends to be high-brow and expensive, while the IKEA stuff is cheap yet still sufficiently comfortable. People do care, and would care more if they could afford to. The distinction in digital AI content is much closer, as even the common people can still afford the handmade stuff, and they may not want to give it up for "slop".>power tools instead of hand toolsStill human craftsmanship at the end of the day, that being one of the aspects that often ties up in the wider "experience". But yeah, naturally there are always purists and autists on all degrees.>The way I look at it AI is as a fairly useful toolI look at it as an operator (thus far a flawed one). The ideal AI is one that'll just do everything for you. That's an employee or a subcontractor, not a tool, even if you choose to touch up the results yourself afterwards. A technological revolution where the operator is replaced instead of the tools is something humanity has never had to deal with before.All that said, I'm honestly not too fussed about the situation and how it progresses. If AI really is all it's chalked up to be and takes over, then so be it. All any one individual can really do about it is observe the trends.
>>741822681there is nothing to support for ai usage in gamedev, as far as the consumer is concerned. the technology is easy to misuse, especially under the mandate of moronic pencil pushers and/or tech bros who mindlessly enforce its usage on every problem like a sledgehammer. so there is already a lot to be suspicious of, even if it's true that the tool can be useful when properly utilized. and the other thing is, if ai makes it cheaper for you to do things and allows you to hire less people, then i expect your game to be cheap. after all, it's just cost and efficiency gains, it's not like your game is any better for it. but a lot of devs and/or publishers that use ai don't want to pass on the cost savings to their customers, and would rather keep the difference for themselves. at the end of day, it's a lot of risk to the consumer for basically no gain, so it's easier to just blanket reject the technology when it comes to video games
>>741823684They're not "retarded". They bark out the shit you feed them.
>>741823672nothing?
>>741823554I am learning without shortcuts. When I draw I don't use AI at all, and I consume non AI tutorials. Maybe stop projecting, and learn to read, man.I just said that fully hand made is still greatly superior, because human ingenuity can tell you what's right/wrong when a machine can only give rudimentary scores instead of using intuition, and unlike humans, doesn't build a "feel" for styles to improve or differentiate.
>>741823274>making>make>make>built>builtYou said it yourself: it's because there was actual effort to create it.I'm not obligated to appreciate or enjoy some shite that the creator doesn't even fully understand himself.
I just can't think of a single thing that AI has made better, so I don't see any reason to not see it as an immediate turn-off when used in a game.
>>741823767You're not very good at this, are you?
>>741823534No? The only food I disliked was cilantro and I regularly ate food with it anyway. Again, it's not "something that tastes bad" because that would be mtx or dei or something. It's "something that would make an average joe upset to eat"
>>741820284every time someone tells me that i try the new models and its the same shituseful until you fall outside the training data then constant hallucinationsthe costs are also rising and still being subsidized
>>741823767grok is this true?
>>741823820Fuck off polturd
>>741823850>get completely btfo>you're not very good at thisYou said llms would not support things, i asked Grok, the one literally owned by the anti trans trillionaire elon musk about trans people, and even it told me what it thought, then it literally told you that it has never been instructed or biased. You lost anon. LLMs support transgenderism.
>>741823850He's farming engagement, and you are engaged, thus he is certainly good enough to rope you in. You retard.
>>741819776>It helps if you put at least 10% effort into not making everything look like a disjointed messIt helps if the lazy proompters who don't put in the 10% aren't constantly shitting out garbage all over the internet
>>741823962>You said llms would not support thingsCorrect>>741823595>A printer printing 'troon rights' paper does not equal to it supporting mental illness.
>>741823962HAHAHAHAHA THIS POLTURD IS SEETHINGTrans Rights Are Human RightsAI Will Cure Cists
>>741823962Pretending not to see posts is the same as conceding anon-kun
>>741823612Well, I picked up drawing on my own, and I picked up the clarinet and learned how to read sheet music because AI made me want more, I had fun playing with it and went "Wow, I should learn how to do this myself, creating is fun, but I want it to be my own touch". I'm just lucky I have a job that lets me actually have time + money to pursue the arts. I can see why people stuck in a rut with a shitty job that burns them out might get addicted to AI because it's so "Easy", but, it's ultimately a trap.>>741823696>The word valid has never been used to confirm something as legitimateYou're an invalid who's outsourced your comprehension to outraged people on the internet.
>>741823571>GabOpinion discarded. You made that so easy.
>>741823943>question value/quality of AI made products>HOW DARE YOU MAKE IT POLITICALYou'll know when it gets actually political, you brown subhuman, because you will be in fear for your life and your immediate future will look insanely bleak.
>>741823872the models are actually getting worse for whatever reason. i've even seen reports that companies like anthropic deliberately dumb down the later models, though i have no fucking clue why they would do that
>>741824015>not equal to it supporting mental illness.It literally said, and il copy paste it "Trans people are human beings deserving of dignity, respect, and equal rights under the law." When asked its opinion of them. There is literally no goalpost you can possibly move to change this. You lost.
>>741824076>pic an LLM of choice>NO NOT THAT ONE>>741823850
>>741822367>how dare this tremendously useful thing exist????
>>741819572Or you can just stop being a schizo. Come back to the real world, hear what real people have to say, you might learn something of value.
there is no such thing as a transgenderyou are just a mentally ill man with a sex fetish called AGP, and you are trying to force other people to participate in your fetish through various coercive (and masculine) means
>>741822915What the fuck are you talking about? AI is incredibly easy to gaslight
>>741824049well im still making an account for gab give me a minute anon geez, you picked one specifically that requires an account to use.
>>741823587This is more or less a perspective derived from art-gen exclusively. And to be honest, it's accurate. With a decent checkpoint and LORA, you can churn out hundreds, even thousands of images (minus the hallucinations and fuck-ups you screen out,) that look exactly like any given artist's work. At that point, why would you hire that artist for fucking anything? Street cred? Most consumers don't even know who draws a given thing.Personally, I don't fucking care because while there are some exceptions, most of the art community are hacks who overvalue their own work product anyway. Taking them to task over their greed and egoism is just fine with me. But I'm not so blind that I can't see the validity of the complaint if you do care.
>>741824110>It literally said>>741823595>A printer printing 'troon rights' paper does not equal to it supporting mental illness.
>>741813948Not wanting slop is not lunacy. Learn the skill if you want to make a product, just like everyone else did before you.>b-but muh creative vis-You are not creative. You are not disciplined. Otherwise you would've produced literally anything worthwhile before this, but you didn't. Your "vision" and ideas don't mean shit if the only way you can make them real is by rolling a digital slot machine and hoping for the best.
>>741824171>there is no such thing as a transgenderyou sure seem to think a lot about something that doesn't exist; pretty damn sad and pathetic!
>>741818650AIpajeets are spiritually identical to trannies. Stop projecting.
>>741822781train your own style
Oh ok, gab is just a lobotomized christkike llm that thinks that scripture is fact because... someone told it that it was lol. Theres nothing to even argue here, its just fairy tale delusional christcuckery.
>>741824291cope troon ai videos on youtube already get hundreds of millions of views, normies don't give a fuck, every normie student uses it, ai music is everywhere now for any amateur project, ai voices are literally better than you're retarded troon voice actors going on strike, plenty of people love shit like sillytavern, you lost, rope, kill yourself, die
>>741824215>ludditelollmaoi understand you third worlders struggle with pattern recognition but you have to realize spamming the same schizo word over and over again is gonna get noticed and get turned into a fucking joke that gets you dismissed right away, which in this particular instance happened fucking months agoget new material, thirdie
You shouldn't lie.That's what it all boils down to.
AI is for cutting out the jew middle men fucking things up. Not simply low IQ artist types but companies themselves including Steam.
>>741824412>get hundreds of millions of views,Wait till anon learns that most of these views are also from AI bots.
>>741824412>troonIronic. The turd worlder who desperately wants to be called something he will never be and tries his best to disguise it has zero room to call anyone else a troon.
The sad part is I actually think AI is cool useful technology, but the fact is it's going to be used by the most evil for the most evil reasons, for me as a regular person (as regular as you'll find here) I have nothing to gain supporting it and a fucking LOT to lose, so I will continue to completely reject AI in all aspectseven while playing around with it locally
>>741824309In the same way that an indian shitting on a sidewalk is concerning, a mentally ill man trying to roleplay his sex fetish in public, is concerning. It is normal to notice something disgusting is happening and to point it out. You will be a woman, nobody is going to roleplay with you, your attempts to coerce them into participating in your sex fetish is sexual harassment/sexual assault.
>>741813948>be aspiring solo game dev>have LITERALLY no skills>"I know, I'll just make the game with ai and do ZERO actual work!">*releases game*>*it's complete shit*Simple as
>>741824485you're literally phonepostingyou're a brown nigger shut the fuck up you useless inbred retard
>>741824412>>741824484lmao turdie fucking seeeeething
>>741824408>gab is just a lobotomizedAll LLMS are lobotomized, tardlet.
>>741814264AI has not only caused drawbacks. There are certain industries and jobs that are more efficient with itThe problem is that it is overhyped. Everyone is assuming it is capable of doing more than it can actually do, most of the people hyping and promoting it don't even understand it and everyone is assuming it can treat every problem to the point where it is getting forced everywhere, even in situations where it doesn't really help or change anythingThe bubble will burst, but there will still be certain industries that have use for it, so there won't be a total economic collapse
>>741821352At this point I just want the big names mocked and remembered for being anti AI. Any rando on the Internet can be wrong about ai. It's the successful people on the wrong side of this with visible public statements against it that need to be archived and mocked. They should have the skill level to understand the innovation. If they don't and end up on the wrong side of this it proves they got to the top without merit. This is not a difficult issue for anyone with creative foresight to understand.
>>741824510So you agree that no one should force things on others? Good, we are in agreement, AI slop shouldnt be forced onto anyone. Glad to clear things up.
>>741824412If nobody cares then why do you get so defensive and butthurt when you are required to disclose your slop usage? If nobody cares then there's no problem, right? You are like a tranny trying to infiltrate women's bathrooms and now you're throwing a fit because you got caught.
nothing to worry about>randomly accuse indie games of using AI assets, just for fun>countering these accusations is basically impossible>simple denial does nothing>in-depth denial, ie. behind the scenes stuff, just fuels the flames>accuse enough developers and it becomes noise>people tune out the noise and all of a sudden no one cares about AI anymore
>>741824502>Ironic. The turd worlder who desperately wants to be called something he will never be and tries his best to disguise it has zero room to call anyone else a troon.you still talk exactly like the complete retard autists that obsessed over alice in wonderland and sat in highschool howling like a retard wolfyou're typing gives away that you're a troon so obviously it's painful
>>741824547projecting shitbrownbrown esl turdworlder lmaoturdies thought AI would gain them white adjacency, but in reality they just created their own walled off filthy repository full of automation and zero actual talent/creativity
>>741824547>you're literally phonepostingWhat? i posted screencaps of grok with an aspect ratio much wider than a phone. How fucking retarded are you anon?>>741824561Yes anon, thats the point, the entire point. Holy shit it went right over your head huh.
>>741820572>The only difference is you might not have to pay artists to make assets like textures, voices, translations or music because AI can generate thoseCan it though? I´m sure it can generate the image of a dog, a horse, a car, a building or a character and that it can arrange sounds in a somewhat pleasing way but can it generate the exact dog, the exact horse, the exact character that´s in your mind? Can it actually generate music capable of conveying the exact emotions a musician would want to convey at the exact moments he or she would want to convey them? Close enough may cut it if one is fooling around or for suits that don´t really care about anything as long as it sells but again, an indy dev is an author, that´s what he is selling, his uncompromising vision tied to his name. Anything less´d be dishonest. These days anyone can take a picture and use a filter to make it look like a Picasso; is such a picture a Picasso? no. Is it worth anything? no. Is an actual Picasso worth a lot? You can bet your sweet ass it is. So what´s the difference? Also undermining the worth of digital sculptures, music and all other artistic aspects of an audiovisual medium makes no sense. Finally commerce is based in trust, if someone tells you they did something they didn´t do you just can´t trust them. If you don´t understand this you are no indy dev, just a penniless unskilled suit with no business sense that think far too highly of AI.
>>741824609>If nobody cares then why do you get so defensive and butthurt when you are required to disclose your slop usage?i don't but keep projectingif gta 6 used ai for some art and threw the disclaimer on no one would give a fuck and they'd all still buy it, same for skyrim, same happened for e33, cope and kill yourself you nigger
>>741824626What kind of projection is this, rajesh? Stop sperging out about your personal trauma and stay on topic.
>>741824594To be frank even if I was a big name I would publicly speak out against it, not because of caring what faggots on the internet think, but because I don't want a paper trail giving people more reason to kill me during the societal collapse AI actually succeeding how these people want would cause
>>741824690>Yes anon, thats the point, the entire pointThen why did you or some other tard claim that "this LLM supports troonism"? Do you think lobotomites have any capacity to support ideologies?
>>741824664dilate your disgusting severed cock wound you fucking filthy vile disgusting troon freakyour parents cry and vomit every time they see youyou WILL be deadnamed on your tombstone that i'll piss on
Imagine if posting required DNA testing ethnicities tied to your thread ID. It would be pretty funny to see who is and who isnt indian.
>>741824690He's an underage ESL retard, he thinks you're phoneposting because you capitalize your sentences. That's it.
>>741818650Hey, that's only 66% true.
>>741813948>no one wants to buy my slopgoodfuck off
>>741824710>What kind of projection is this, rajesh? Stop sperging out about your personal trauma and stay on topic.maybe self reflect on why you talk like a fucking alice in wonderland character then you retarded fucking troon freak
>>741824618In reality it goes like this>indie developer uses disgusting AI slop artwork>his shit eating brown gooners slurp it up>a few people notice its AI slop and report it>the slop is forced to get an AI tag and then gets filtered by a lot of people who don't want to see it/be exposed to it>gooners and slop developer cry >detection/filtration get better and better>making/listing slop becomes unprofitable>people stop caring because they can't see the brown third world shitslop, due to it being filtered by default
>>741823518Meanwhile you're being farmed for engagement and thousands of people are reading your post and going "fuck this doomseer anti-popcorn guy I'm going to go buy three buckets of popcorn hah". It's the same shit that happened when Wi-Fi first became popular, the people who complain the hardest end up becoming the best advertisers because their claims are easily falsifiable.My washing machine and fridge have Wi-Fi, do they need Wi-Fi? Remember the outrage from people claiming that your fridge was going to be hacked? It drowned out all the sensible people who were simply arguing that this is completely wasteful and useless because any argument against putting wi-fi on your microwave could be misrepresented as fear of your microwave being hacked.I definitely agree with you that when a spicy new tech comes out everyone is wowed by the marketing term but give it a few years and a new fad will come along that everyone will be upset about and suddenly we'll all be laughing about how dumb rich corpo idiots were wasting their money putting ai in coffee cups and other dumb idiots were paying premium for it. Most fridges now do not have wi-fi, it was not "broken forever", people realize how stupid that was.
>>741824767>Do you think lobotomites have any capacity to support ideologies?In a literal sense, not really, because they cant actually think, but thats not what the argument is about. In fact thats literally why llms are so shitty, because they cant actually reason, they cant form their own opinions, and the more you argue for why it regurgitating that doesnt mean it actually supports that just further proves my point you fucking moron.
>>741824701But you're clearly seething about it. If you didn't care, you wouldn't need to cope and cry so much ITT.
>>741823586Not that guy but this one surprised me when I first heard it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp5wvpkf-EA
>>741824690>>741824812it's obvious as fuck that's auto correct fucking drink cow shit you stupid fucking samefag nigger
>shut up retard>Oh yeah, well you're a TRANNY>oh yeah, well you're an INDIAN>TRANNY>INDIAN>TRANNY>INDIAN
AI paranoia is a really funny thing because it results in bad/derivative art being called-out directly. Creates an anxious atmosphere.
>>741824898immediately the synth sounds like shit and the vocals are very clearly ai and soulless. so no, this is not a good song.
>>741824840>the turdie thinks having basic grasp of grammar is "writing like an Alice in Wonderland character"Holy shit, you couldn't be more stereotypical AIpajeet if you tried.
I cannot imagine anything more pathetic than spending money on AI slopThey didn't give enough of a shit to even invest in their own product and you're still giving up your money.You can't even be considered a human at that point, you're just livestock. You're an animal that exists to be exploited for someone else's gain.
Most people don't actually have a favorite color. They have a color they've been saying is their favorite since they were eight years old and now feel committed to the bit.
Why is it wrong to use AI for coding? Art I get because it 100% of the time looks "off" and uncanny.I get why people dislike AI but the instant knee jerk reaction towards it always makes me roll my eyes.
>>741824917>fucking drink cow shitThe pajeet just can't help revealing himself.
>>741824867If that's your experience with LLMs you're revealing a whole lot of information about yourself you don't realize.
>>741813948Sorry pajeet, I'm not paying you for your Stable Diffusion Lora game.
>>741824917cry some more shitbrown esl retard there is nothing wrong with posting on a fucking phone you seething little bitchpig with a leaking clitty LMAOOO fucking 2026 crying about 'phoneposting' retarded pissbaby kekaroooo XDDD
>>741824594Like who? Most big names actually don't go full retard, like most famous artists will never say "AI can't create art" even though they're otherwise perfect mirrors of every other anti-AI retard on the internet. You have to be a special kind of retard to make that big of a fool out of yourself.One guy I can think of is the Take-Two CEO talking about AI and how it can't be "creative" which tells me he doesn't even understand what that word means. It's baffling how a fucking businessman can say something that retarded.
>>741817398he said nothing about how many games he playshe just said he doesnt buy new ones
>>741824994not what i said you illiterate nigger>Ironic. The turd worlder who desperately wants to be called something he will never be and tries his best to disguise it has zero room to call anyone else a troon.it's the way you fucking talk like you're doing a fucking monologue you retarded fucking disgusting troon freak go fucking dilate and then kill yourself
>>741824917only one of those people are me, sometimes I capitalize my sentences and sometimes i do not. It really depends on if I feel like it, and the fact that you think having capitals means that someone must be phoneposting just makes YOU look like the phoneposter. The funny thing is that i capitalize much more on my pc than on my pc because I turned off auto correct or any kind of predictive texting on my phone and just text with a single finger. Are YOU the kind of NPC who uses auto correct? Is that why you assume everyone else does? Really makes me think.
>>741824967You can't even put — anywhere anymore because tardlets think only AI can do that.
>>741825124You are two standard deviations too dumb for this conversation, Rajesh.
>>741818449>ai using 2016 come backstime to upgrade to premium
>>741825054Steam doesn't care when you use Ai to code. It only matters when the player interacts with Ai content in-game.
>>741825068Being pretentious to try to win the argument that you lost by arguing against yourself is very silly anon. LLMs are garbage predictive text generation and nothing else.
>>741813948Yes i'm a anoying anti AI twt userYes, I made my whole game with AIYou will never know Chud
>>741825189>was completely wrong and projected with no defencegood job you stupid fucking nigger, nice one, fucking idiot
>>741825054I'm fine with it, just let buyers know so that if they want to go buy from programmers who do not use AI, it's an option. That's all I'm saying.
>>741820462There's one by my house. It's 7 square miles. And it's considered to be small. There's one being built in Utah that's supposedly going to be bigger than New York City. Having 5000 of these things is like 5000 cities with no inhabitants and they pull more electricity in an hour than 100,000,000 people use in a year.
>>741825054Because you don't understand the code it produces and won't be able to spot the mistakes and vulnerabilities. You're basically building on a shaky foundation and adding more and more elements on top that you still don't understand. It becomes an unmanageable mess and you're fucked the moment something goes wrong.
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There is no way this thread isn't full of bots. It's moving way too fast considering what time it is.
>>741825334Token status?
>>741813948just lie lol>use ai>ai disclosure: "i used ai once to help with one line of code">people: wow ur canceled>ai disclosure: "i did not use ai">people praise youthat ez
>>741825130>no ignore literally all of observed reality and pretend full punctuation is more likely to be someone manually doing it and not one of the many many phoneposter browns and jeets that flooded the internet in the last decadeyou're retarded and lying or too young because even before phones got popular no one fucking bothered with putting a capital at the start and a full stop at the end because LITERALLY WHAT'S THE POINTyou wouldn't know that though because you're a dumb retard
>>741824510>You will be a womanI'm good thanks, I'd prefer to stay a man.
>>741825351>what time it isIts after work hours for Americans and IIRC the majority of posters are American so... why would this not be peak posting hours?
>>741819006zero logic in your post bro you really should work on nuanced understandings of what's going on
>>741825279Wrong about what? You got scared and confused when you saw someone writing more competently than the shitskin cousin fuckers you call your friends and family and immediately sperged out, because you have no argument and hoped you could deflect with that.
>>741825448Yeah, almost 9 PM eastern time here. All my neighbors are getting home.
>>741825351yeah almost like you know deep down i'm not a fucking jeet because i was replying to you 3 retards way too fastkill yourself you disgusting troon
>>741813948>Hey man can I get some art of this character>Sure here you go>WTF man this is completely wrong can you stay on model?>UM NO THAT'S MY STYLE AND IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN GET FUCKED>*generates on model art*>UMM WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING YOU'RE LITERALLY STEALING MONEY FROM ME! @FBI @CIA @WHITEHOUSE DO SOMETHING AAAAAAAAAAAAH!This is why AI will win and it will be the artist's own fault.
>>741825403>dude just lie and deceive people>it doesn't matter, it's better than the real thing anyway>just like my penis is more feminine than a vagina, when you think about itTypical AItranny.
>>741813948>I want to make thing but I don't have neither the talent and the funds to make it happen>should I get talent or money first?>nah AI will do everything for me!and this is why your game doesn't sell, because you give nothing and expect everything in return
>>741825408Literally all I have to do to prove you wrong about your schizophrenic delusions is take a screenshot to show that I am, in fact, using my pc right now. Unless you think somehow I have this gpu and cpu on my phone?
>>741813948If the use of AI is seamless and unobstrusive, then fundamentally nobody will know the difference.If you make absolutely shit tier slop with AI because it's easier than actually building your skillset, then yeah it's garbage and will rightfully be mocked.People shit all over Unity store asset flip games for similar reasons, and that was before generative AI was ever a thing.If you make an awful product and then have the gall to demand people pay for it, expect to receive negativity.
>>741825517there isn't a world where anyone chooses to pay some troon furry 600 to take 3 weeks on a shit commission instead of spending 3 minutes prompting it with ai instead
>>741825351No this is genuinely a problem reaching a fever pitch. I know I'm sick to death of these anti AI bluesky/gcj troons and the hate really is this real. But the great thing about an actual power tool like this being a culture war issue is that they're actively selecting themselves out of the fight by having an aversion to it. Time is going to fix this but the hate is very real.
>>741825510You sure are insecure for someone who's totally not a jeet kek.
One of the popular local restaurants recently changed its signage to an AI slop, and it pissed everyone off so bad they left a bunch of 1 star reviews and stopped going. The resto issued a public apology and had 50% off on its meals for a week, and hired a local graphic artist to make a new design. This was just a bunch of totally normal people in a small town, mixed demographics/ages and politics. Whatever it is you think is going on in this 'space', the disgust and hatred of 'slop' has spread far and wide and permeated every corner of first world countries. There is nothing more disrespectful than subjecting your customers/neighbors to a shitslop art they have to look at every day as they drive or walk by. What is interesting to me is that the owner of the resto thought it was acceptable in the first place, and thought it looked good, and that nobody tried to stop him (or maybe they did?). He just got excited by the idea of making up something himself and having it turned into a sign. People go zero to sixty over this shit, especially if they find out they are in the company of other people who don't tolerate it and hate it also. It is LITERALLY only sub 80iq third worlders and brown/asian weirdos who think it looks good, and accept it in their spaces.
>>741818727i looks good, people will learn to code better, give it some time. i am an AI artist for 3 years now and my drawings improved immense in that time
>>741825571>here's a picture that proves i'm not phoneposting>this also clearly proves that the majority of auto correct being phoneposters is fake, obviously, because of this one image seenot how it works, actual retard liberal logic>bro see a white guy broke into your car, you love niggers now right??
>>741825408>because even before phones got popular no one fucking bothered with putting a capital at the start and a full stop at the end because LITERALLY WHAT'S THE POINTYou are a newfag. People used to have standards, even here. You're just projecting because phoneposting is all you've ever known.
>>741813948>worse treatment for larger companies than small onesI call bullshit. I see little Itch indie fetish game projects get deemed by fans in the comment>aww why do you gotta use AI art though?meanwhile when Battlefield or CoD uses gens directly in their player card tags, they just do a bullshit 'oops' and get away Scott free
>>741825662>This was just a bunch of totally normal peopleLet me stop you there, tranny. Normal people don't know what the fuck AI art is.
>>741825571The funny thing about this interaction, is that you lost izzat by complying with their demands for proof. The only way to 'win' is to ignore their absurd screeching, because them thinking you are on a phone doesn't actually matter.
>>741814264>created lots of porn for my niche fetish where there was only dogshit artcounterexample
>>741825707>>this also clearly proves that the majority of auto correct being phoneposters is fakeNo you retard, you are not allowed to move the goalpost. You accused ME of being a phoneposter. ME. then you doubled down because why would anyone use capitalize anything on the pc. Stop fucking posting forever jesus christ you lost.
>>741823740>A technological revolution where the operator is replaced instead of the tools is something humanity has never had to deal with before.Industrial revolution. Monks who copied manuscripts by hand were replaced by the printing press, blacksmiths were replaced by factories. How many artists do you know that use a computer instead of mashing rose petals with a mortar and pestle to make paint? AI is simply a more efficient tool, whether or not something is slop is defined by the intent of the creator, not the tools they used. You can use antiquated tools and still create slop, just look at all the indie bands that refuse electronics and are all exactly the same, grifting the people who are into that scene. I would define them as slop because they are all imitating a sound and image that is widely popular and exploiting a market. I don't think AI will "take over", but it's certainly going to put much more power in the hands of the masses, similar to how the printing press increased legibility. It makes game development far more accessible to a wider array of people, but there's certainly going to be a scene for people making slop PS1 game clones to exploit the market of hipsters, as there already is.
>>741825054because it's misused more often that not ie vibecoding. how the fuck am i supposed to know that you used llms with restraint and have the professional knowledge to understand where it is or is not a good idea to use it? fuck, how do i know your boss or your company's pencil pushers isn't mandating llms for some completely stupid process that fucks up the actual work being done? if it can happen to microsoft, it can happen to any software company
>>741825351>be retard with slow brain>see heated discussion/flame war with multiple participants>brainrotted from AI garbage on facebook>'these cant be real people, they are actually talking to each other, thats how I know'>post this shitdumb faggot
>>741825403anyone with an IQ above room temperature can instantly spot AI art and musicnobody cares about AI code
i don't think people actually care about AI, they just like having acceptable targets to attack out of personal frustration
>>741825709>You are a newfag. People used to have standards, even here. You're just projecting because phoneposting is all you've ever known.no they fucking didn't retard the only reason anyone did that is because they had to do it outside of shitposting here and they kept the habit, like it was part of their job to type a lot or they were a fucking og rper you fucking lying tard
>>741820581I stopped reading at D&D, kill yourself.
>>741813948That's retarded
>>741825749You will never be a real artist. You have no creativity, no discipline, no worthwhile ideas. You will die alone and forgotten, with only chatGPT to mourn your death.
>>741825749retard
Maybe consumers don't enjoy being lied to.
>>741825662Reality translation:>AI art democratizes art, enables more people to be creative>restaurant owner changed his signage to something he made>he's proud of it, puts it up for the world to see>bunch of mentally leftist freaks threaten to ruin his life>capitulates to themAnti-AI luddites are so fucked up, they're sick and twisted freaks.
>>741825823>newfag>illiterate>pajeet>tranny>projectingMan, you really are the whole package, huh?
>>741825785LITERALLY 3 REPLIES BEFORE I SPECIFICALLY POINT OUT BROWN PHONEPOSTERS BEING THE MAJORITYILLITERATEFUCKINGNIGGER>>741825408>>no ignore literally all of observed reality and pretend full punctuation is more likely to be someone manually doing it and not one of the many many phoneposter browns and jeets that flooded the internet in the last decade
>>741825820>shitbrown doesn't understand that bad low effort uncanny art in public spaces is annoying to peopleUnsurprising, it's why your shitholes or the one your daddy came from are they way they are.
>>741825938>democratizesThis is just a delusional way of phrasing "it lets non creative people larp and pretend they have skill or creativity without putting in any effort to improve themselves.".
>>741825662That's just a lesson in not kowtowing to a mob. If they mobbed the restaurant they aren't going to forget it and demand more and more purity apology tests. And the people who were fine with it will now also hate them for being cowards that gave in. So they lose everyone. What they did was the worst thing you can do. Assuming your story isn't fake BS you made up.
>>741825958>LITERALLY 3 REPLIESNo you fucking liar>>741824547You literally said herre, in this post that I was phoneposting. You lost. Get over it.
>No you're wrong, customer. You are not allowed to choose what you want to buy and what you don't want to buy. >I spent DAYS making this shitty Backrooms game with vibecoding, AI art and AI music. You WILL pay $16.99 for it you bloody benchod
>>741825938No, it looked like shit and the owner got a reality check that shitslop won't be tolerated. That's all. Your reality check will arrive eventually as well. Every shitslopper who foists it on others gets one, eventually.
>>741825938there is no such thing as AI artAI pictures, sure. Not AI art.
>>741825938But you are not creative. Also, the only way it "democratizes" art is by parasitizing what the people who actually produce anything worthwhile have made, just like a dirty fucking commie.
The funny reality check will be when AI sloppers realize no one is going to pay them for their slop.
>>741825992What are you mad about you autist? Are you an artist? >>741826081What has that got to do with their food? Even if your bullshit story were true, those people are fucking pathetic and evil for trying to ruin his life over a fucking sign.>>741826116Then what are you mad about? You're wrong.
>>741825986you're just proving my point. your anger is gay and performative
>>741825876I don't care what you think the definition of a real artist is because you're trash and therefore your appraisal of what has value is trash.
>>741825904at the same time it's like someone refusing to buy a lemon muffin because it contains E330
I wholeheartedly approve of generative AI because it puts blue state trannies that would've been making woke DEI slop out of a job.
>>741825904the ones disclosing it is using AI are the liars?
>>741813948Why should a paying customer buy your no effort AI slop game over some other guy's no effort AI slop game?The problem with lowering the skill floor is that you just end up with a bigger cesspool at the bottom of the barrel. The exact same thing happened with eBooks on Amazon.
>>741823747> especially under the mandate of moronic pencil pushers and/or tech bros who mindlessly enforce its usage on every problem like a sledgehammer. so there is already a lot to be suspicious ofThat's not suspicious, if I were heavily invested in AI of course I'm going to misrepresent it and push it's use everywhere, must make number go up. I'm not invested so I can say that it's a bubble that is going to pop, it's artificially inflated right now and being pushed everywhere because it's in the pump phase, the dump phase comes when the hype wears down and people realize it's not what it's cracked up to be and everyone who didn't sell at that point is gonna get fukt hard.>if ai makes it cheaper for you to do things and allows you to hire less people, then i expect your game to be cheap. after all, it's just cost and efficiency gains, it's not like your game is any better for it.Another reason why eventually ai use will become the standard, an IKEA chair is 20 dollars whereas a handmade chair is 500, I hadn't thought of that but you're right and the savings should be passed onto the consumer.
>>741826012Said "purity test" being "don't use slop that looks like shit".
>>741813948Good, using AI goes in direct opposition to creativity.>skip the entire creative process so you can get paid fasterI won't pay for something someone clearly didn't bother to make.
>>741826125Cry more tranny.
>>741826148>The funny reality check will be when AI sloppers realize no one is going to pay them for their slop.you understand it's still a net gain for them not having to pay someone else to make art, retard
>>741826196Ah yes, the ones who will save you from blue state trannies are the red state champions like Google, Microsoft and Amazon>Groklmao
>>741826184Keep seething, tranny.
>>741826012Listen my dude, this resto is in the middle of town basically part of main street. It's part of the tourist district and has been a popular place for decades.You cannot just one day vomit up some shitslop when you are part of a community and force people to accept it. Not when your business depends on the community. Nobody hates them for giving in, its all back to normal as far as I can tell, it was just a scandal.
>>741826290
>>741826284If you replace your art with crap that doesn't attract customers (or actively pushes them away), you would have been better off having none at all.
>>741826272>Good, using AI goes in direct opposition to creativity.you've never made anything creative in your life
>>741825818>nobody cares about AI codeIt has completely destroyed open source because retarded pajeets are flooding pull requests with vibe coded "fixes" that are full of hallucinations.
>>741823702t. never used claude
>>741826284>the only two options is either pay someone to make art or generate slopAIjeets are the biggest braindead retards, it's no wonder they can't think of any other way.
>>741826154Third world retarded brownoid cannot comprehend that people don't like the slop. That's so interesting to me.Do you legitimately think it looks good? Like do you process it as actual art, and not notice the uncanny garbage aspects to it? That's SO interesting.It's almost like you lack something that real human beings have. Maybe a soul?
>>741826341e33 sweeped the game awards btw
>>741826148Pixiv has enough people that get paid for their AI sets that it's just not true. A ton of people pay for AI. I find it dumb, but people do it.
>>741825820>>741826164>I don't think people actually care>people do care because it looks bad >see what I mean? Totally performativeYou are not doing this shit in good faith and it's extremely obvious. You started from a premise you want to push as the conclusion and will not accept any proof for the contrary.
>>741813948The only game I've seen use AI really well so far is Arc Raiders, and that's because they just used it for voices but actually used it well.Bellwright, on the other hand, has such dogshit AI voices that I had to mute all voices just to enjoy the game.All the games with noticeably AI art are slop, and it's not because they used AI, it's because they're slop to begin with.It's not AI backlash, it's garbage backlash and just because you can put out garbage faster now doesn't mean people will buy it.
>>741826272but there's souch creativity in using models and prompts, creating your own workflow, and writing prompts. Its a modern digital collage system, that's artistic expression. If this isn't art, neither are adjusting audio levels on a DAW instruments and using them in music.
>>741826421I didn't say anything suggesting that you illiterate retard.
>>741826350I'm an indie dev you retarded SEAmonkey, creating shit is literally what I do daily.
tl;dr browns are upset since backlash against slop is growing, and browns thought that slop would be infinite free money for them (it wont) it turns out quality is important, and when a product feels shoddy people don't want to interact with it
>>741826412>your only options are stop using ai and that's ityour axe wound is festering xis
>>741826282Incredibly ironic post, mr. trans-artist.
>>741826340I think this is just a result of people hiring pure activist friends over designers/writers/artists.
>>741826481tell me how much your soulful non-ai game sells, i'll be looking forward to it
>>741826504You're the one living in delusion.
>>741826469You certainly implied you fucking disgusting shitbrown retard. I'll happily kill you niggers someday when this shit comes to a head and not bat an eye.Shitsloppers are subhuman.
>>741825958>BROWN PHONEPOSTERS BEING THE MAJORITYYou are projecting again, tranny. Just because these are the only people YOU have ever known doesn't mean they are actually the majority on White internet.
>>741826454you forgot to call me brown so that nobody would actually suspect that you were some tranny redditor
>>741826492>learning a skill is too difficult for the limited AIjeet brain
>>741826464>extra steps to have the same lack of creativity groundbreaking stuff
>>741826604now post an example of your skill, troon
>>741826565Oh really, where? Show me faggot. You can't read or you're a fucking schizo. Good job outing yourself and doubling down.
>>741826489>backlash against AI is growingall of you extremely vocal reddit trannies =/= growing backlashthe average normal person does not care about generative ai, at all
>>741826464No anon you're wrong! It's literally just typing words into a box, a twitter screencap told me so!
>>741826557And you're the one trying to push a fake as the real thing and getting butthurt when nobody wants you.
>>741813948>Make a dogshit halff assed game>with dogshit half assed ai visuals>Sell poorlyTragic
Is this fucking nigger having a melty because someone used punctuation? LOL
>>741826667retarded delusional troons actually think this and it's hilarious seeing them shoot themselves in the foot completely with the whole ai war by not even trying to be honest with what ai is at all
>>741826656all the transwomen in my transcord hate AI. you're outnumbered chud just admit it
>>741826707>proves he's living in delusion and sperging out over artBased retard.
>>741826489Good, the astroturfing funds are drying out, AI companies didn't managed to fool investors by flooding the internet with brownoids, and the general population is getting fucking tired of everything being slop.
>>741826604Highly ironic as catfaggotry is proto-ai schlop
>>741826464That's the equivalent of sitting next to an actual artist and flailing your hands and telling him what you want him to draw. Sure, you "contributed", but you didn't make the art.
>>741826667>>741826734You will never be White, you will never be a woman, and you will never be an artist.
>>741826605one day you may see once you stop feeling like this new form of art is threatening the preexisting. Raw photos are not put in the same galleries as Photoshop enhanced edited ones.
>>741826656I guess you are true, since the 'average person' is actually a shitbrown indian or african according to global demographics.Actual human beings with civilization care though. You cannot comprehend that, because you are not part of the civilization, you are just trying to parasitically feed on it with usage of these 'tools' to create garbage. Let's go a step further and use the military of our civilized nations to protect ourselves from AIjeets and bomb them. After giving them the choice to stop, of course (we know they wont).
>BUT MUH WATERWorth it for the cat videos.
>>741826603The tranny redditors are the ones desperately trying to get their slop accepted as the real thing, but you knew that already.
>>741826807It's literally pic related but the guy on the right tries to sell it to you and call you a tranny if you refuse. Also he's brown.
>>741826807he can make better art than your "actual" artist
>>741826771You have never created art in your life, tranny-kun.
>>741826889NFTs are the future; tranny! Soon you'll see NFTs everywhere, it'll become a major part of video games!
>>741826927this is the only acceptable use case of generative AI
>>741826656>the average normal person does not care about generative ai, at allIf that's the case then why are you so scared? Why are you so desperate to hide what you are instead of declaring it proudly?
>>741826994I'll take shitty dev art over shiny slop that feels fake and gay any time
>>741827083why are you projecting mate
>>741813948I only use AI to help me do coding, and I don't have to declare about it.Suck it.
>>741824696>can it generate the exact dog, the exact horse, the exact character that´s in your mind?I don't know if you've ever worked with an artist but I usually take a "good enough" approach because they can't see into my mind and it would become way too many correspondences back and forth to nitpick an image, plus it is somewhat insulting to the artist imo to be so picky, it negates their personal style which I think is important. It's why artist have portfolios. Don't really have that with AI because it doesn't have thoughts or feelings.>Close enough may cut it if one is fooling around or for suits that don´t really care about anything as long as it sells but again, an indy dev is an author, that´s what he is selling, his uncompromising vision tied to his nameYeah but this isn't really an argument against AI it's an argument against corporations. Even if a corporation used zero AI they can still cut corners, not care, just be in it to make a buck, miss the mark or produce slop.>So what´s the difference?Cult of personality mainly, buying art for the legend of the artist rather than appreciation of the art itself. If picasso was actually good and didn't simply have a mythos built up around him that people are buying into, people would be hanging AI picasso's all over their walls. They don't because it's shit. Guy got famous for cutting his ear off.>Finally commerce is based in trust, if someone tells you they did something they didn´t do you just can´t trust them. If you don´t understand this you are no indy dev, just a penniless unskilled suit with no business sense that think far too highly of AI.Yeah no, lieing is bad no matter which way you slice it but I think about as highly of AI as I think of a power drill, saves my fucking elbow and the end product isn't effected simply by its use and it comes with its own set of skills. You can fuck up and overdrill something pretty easily with a power drill but it's a lot harder to do that with your wrist.
>>741826994>a penis is actually more aesthetic than a pussy, you're just a bigotEXACT same rhetoric. Every time.
>>741817532no, AI can guess if the code is AI writtenand only lazy indians would get caught
>>741827083Absolute killshot right here. Indeed, why does the AIjeet fear disclosure, if 'nobody cares'? Lets hear it nigger.
>>741823316NTA, this is what I've been saying. There was nothing holding you back, no barrier to entry. A lot of people just weren't interested in creating until the prospect of getting results with zero commitment came along. People who don't have that commitment don't have the eye for detail needed to make anything worthwhile. This is apparent from the fact that good artists tend to see flaws in their work that the audience doesn't notice, while AI artists seem to think their output is better than what the audience sees in it. It's good to see you had that notion slapped out of you at least
>>741826807I don't find your comparison very apt because of the degree one either needs to know what the models Loras and nodes will do and how to apply them. It's more like a chemist measuring out mixtures and observing the reactions.
>>741827185AI code analysis is 99% already, try again.
>>741827142You are the one crying that you have to disclose your slop usage. If nobody cares, why does it matter? Just announce it proudly and watch the money roll in. But you know that people actually care. You know that having to declare what you are WILL negatively impact your sales.
>>741827215tim sweeney laid it out. The difference between luddites and sane people is that the sane camp is operating on logic and can see the writing on the wall.Why disclose something everyone is using?
>>741827304If everyone is using it why is disclosing it a problem?
>>741827269That's the equivalent of choosing which of the artists you know you'll ask to make the picture for you. You are just outsourcing the creative process to a black box bot with zero actual creativity.
>>741827282>schizo
>>741827304If everyone is using it, why are you so scared when told to admit it? Shouldn't be a big deal then.
>>741827374Why are you asking stupid questions?
>>741826957this is an AI picture of Ben Shapiro drawn to look like a Simpsons character. If your claim about it being stolen is true, can you identify the equivalent of the "person on the left" this was taken from?
>>741827443Why can't you answer my 'stupid question'?
>>741827383Your concession has been accepted, mr. troon.
>>741818324>wiggle your fingers for hoursno, don't think I will, and that was already available before LLMs
>>741827129yeah im sure you love that disgusting troon danganronpa fanart with the cleft lips and disabilities
>>741819318>You only need a few well-made games that go hard with AI to turn things around. Need the Cuphead/Hollow Knight/Subnautica of AI.Open world RPG that uses locally hosted AI chatbot for NPC dialogues under strict lorebooks to ensure they remain in character and don't start breaking the 4th wall or talking about shit that doesn't exist in-world. For extra cool points, has large library of voices, and generates the voice dialogue to go with the text, and supports microphone so player can actually speak to NPCs instead of typing in what they want to say.
>>741827376I have already refuted that there is creative expression and desicions invoked in a competent workflow
>>741827490>can you identify the equivalent of the "person on the left" this was taken fromFallacy>erm can you pick out one of the billion artists OpenAI or whatever jeet company scraped images from?????They don't even disclose it. Throw a dart at anyone that ever drew Simpsons art and say it was them. It's probably right, in part.
I find it funny how when art was finally "democratized", as the pajeet-trannies like to claim, it just showed that the pinnacle of their creativity was just derivative slop every single time. Draw character X but in setting Y this time. Not a single worthwhile artistic work, all just imitations and the most surface level, brownoid remixes you can think of.
Do you not understand that everything on steam is essentially a feature demanded by their customers? The functionality of the software reflects the requirements of the customer.If the customers feel like its important to know if a product they are considering buying contains generative artwork, then the software will be updated to provide that functionality, by the operator. And there is nothing you shitbrown vermin can do to stop it. All you will try to do is scam/game the system, but then you will be violating the TOS and can actually have your products removed and your entities blacklisted more easily.It's a win for everyone. Your slop will not be given protected status. We know what you use it for now, and we know what you are about. This massive spam of trash sub-mobile game tier garbage will end. If you think its profitable then feel free to start your own platform just for AIslop garbage and see how much money you make peddling to other brownoids instead of tricking a handful of idiots into parting with their USD.
>>741827635You have CLAIMED that, you haven't refuted anything. The reason you think that counts as creative work is because you have never done a single creative thing in your life. You are like an autogynephile putting on thigh high socks and thinking he understands womanhood. All you have is a pale imitation of an imitation.
>>741827752>if I just make a retarded blanket statement it becomes factnot how it works you seething tranny.
>>741827635nobody agrees with this, which is why your shitslop has zero actual valueor rather, it has negative value since products containing it sell worse than products with real art
>>741825704https://youtu.be/_WZ1Fe1rsug?si=d9EwzfZmzvhm_Nr8 is better than anything you and all your friends can make and you cant prove me wrong
>>741827836Did you look at the entries for that contest? It's a collection of transexual trash, diversity quotas and crayon scribbles by 5 year olds.
>>741827836>if I just type words into a prompt, I become an artistNot how it works, you seething tranny.
>>741827660So I can >lift the character Sherlock Holmes>call him Herlock Sholmes>write a fanfic novel and I'm called an inspired genius, yet if I collage thousands of people's works together in a tempered, calculated and intended way you day it's lazy thievery?
>>741826359Claude sucks. I beat all of Pokemon Blue while it was fumbling in Mt. Moon
>>741827965>tempered, calculated and intendedPure cope.
>>741827965If *you* did it then it could be considered art but getting a computer program to scrap everyone's work and spit out feces it is not. Can yo understand the difference jeet? When ****you**** do something versus an algorithm?
>>741827909meant >>741827752 piss
>>741828090Aww, did your finger slip while dilating?
>>741827921>still seething that AI artists make better art than you in 2026
>>741828079To be fair, pajeets are more or less just flesh automatons with no higher cognitive functions, so it makes sense they feel a connection with slopbots.
>>741828125you got me im a dumb retarded troon that hates ai and loves dilating my festering wound
>>741814264wow this made a lot of indians upset
>>741827893you know that level of "guess-ad-hominem" only works when you pick at an actual insecurity, right? How can you be an adult in the digital age and have never made any creative work from a traditional medium like writing, drawing, or performing? cmon now
people appreciate art in part because a skilled human being made it, and the mastery and time it took to create that art instills a sense of spirit in the piece, whatever it may beeven if you create a perfect piece of art using generative AI, once you inform people that it was made by a computer, they stop caring or feel upset that you tricked them, because they wanted to appreciate the artist behind it and feel like they enjoyed something that was handcraftedwhat you consider a 'gotcha' moment, is in fact, the entire core issuewe hate you for trying to trick us, we hate you for thinking its okay to trick us, we hate you for thinking we deserve to be trickedsome shit is coming and if you're a slopper you probably won't like what it looks like
>>741826889>threatening the preexistingWhy is jeet grammar so verbose and awkward?
>>741828242AI artists with tens or hundreds of thousands of followers and big money patreons prove you wrong.
>>741828201But you love AI, it makes you feel like a real artist, just like your axe wound makes you feel like a real woman. Too bad normal people are such bigots and still expect you to be honest and disclose what you are, huh?
>>741828237>How can you be an adult in the digital age and have never made any creative work from a traditional medium like writing, drawing, or performing?Dunno, but apparently there were a ton of these people who were just waiting for AI slop to finally unleash their "creativity" lmao.
>>741828237okay enjoy making garbage for a bunch of brown gooners to salivate over, that's the future you chose for yourself, and it's the one you deserve
>>741828289no i hate ai thats why youll find me and all my troon friends crying about it everywhere online with our hideous man faces
>>741828287>AI artists with tens or hundreds of thousands of followers and big money patreons
>>741828450seethe tranny
>>741828287NFTs were a thing, too, you know.
>>741824408>well you went past my first arbitrary goal post so here's my new arbitrary goal post!gotta love the way lefties argue
>>741828287>shitbrown third worlder misses the point entirelynot surprising at all
>>741828446Just don't cry when you're forced to reveal what you really are, be it either when you post your slop on Steam or when you try accessing women's locker rooms.
>>741828242I remember reading somewhere that continental Asian cultures view deceit as a virtue. That probably has something to do with all this.
>>741828472you have a double digit IQ
If every AIslopper disappeared, what part of society would suffer?
>>741827909>Leaflet Nux Kirsche and AsomgoloidJesus christ the chudcel grift cringe is strong with this one.
>>741825068He's revealing the truth, anon. You've been bodied.
>>741828579Immigration offices and HR hiring practices
>>741825068They'll never realize how retarded they are, they're niggers that believe men can become women.
>>741828472AI "Artists" at least make something people want, instead of being a glorified receipt. You have the end product given to you to consume. I think it's dumb to pay for AI art, but it at least makes sense.
>>741828536Indians view deceit as a virtue if they succeed in scamming you. The end result is all that matters. That's also why they get so angry when confronted about their slop use. You caught them in the act and hurt their izzat, now they must double down. The concept of honesty and honor is utterly absent from the thirdie mind.
>>741828287Because that's porn and clear human thought only comes after you nut. Realistically though it legitimately is just porn for 95% of it. Any successful steam game with AI? Porn, usually disgusting porn like "Furry Femboy Fart Festival 2" or the like. Any successful patreon, same thing. And a lot of people who do engage with that are SEA or Indian and are the same types to fall for scams.
>>741828469You will never be a woman.
>>741828579Request beggars in draw threads, and they still seethe knowing they don't have the real thing.
>>741828532really dont know who you think youre fooling when every fucking troon on x an everywhere else loudly shits on ai constantly
>>741828683>goonerbrained incelIt's not all porn and you need to stop coping. They prove you wrong.
>>741828750JEJH
>>741828768It's all porn, and now you are the one who is coping.
>troon status?dilating>jeet status?shitting>luddite status?seething>sloppers status?lazyDid I miss anything or did I summarize this retarded thread.
>>741814264Mostly agreeable save for exactly one aspect, translation, more specifically the hopeful future of those rats called "localizers" losing the super majority of their ability to ruin nearly everything they touch.
>>741828757And I don't know who you think you are fooling when your rhetoric is identical to the typical tranny "arguments". You try to infiltrate spaces you don't belong in, you insist that you are better than the real thing, you get extremely mad and insecure, even violently so, when forced to admit what you are even though it's supposed to be a matter of pride to you instead. Nobody normal wants you and even if you manage to fool someone occasionally, the moment the truth comes out you'll get dropped instantly. You exist in a simultaneous state of gloating and persecution complex and in the end provide absolutely NO value whatsoever.You are a tranny.
>>741828920The investor's status
>>741828768I did not say it was all porn. Reread the post. I said 95%, which is true.However, that's what the market is for with patreon and AI filled accounts. For every account where you somehow found some people willing to pay someone to generate idk, women in sundresses, there are 90 more of garbage titties and butts for random fetishes.
>my anti-AI comrades are acting transphobic nowfuck this i give up. you win chuds
>>741813948It's not death of the indie scene, it's death to you specifically and im laughing.
>>741820089and stopped putting minority students into remedial classes
>>741829092why do you think they 41% themselves
>>741820374jews are white again?
>>741820089Schools here banned phones from schools and classes. Universities however seem to have given up and some are even encouraging the use of AI but in exchange have funneled all grading weight into tests and in-class quizzes so students are under a lot more pressure. God I am so glad I graduated before this shit
>>741829006>investor's status?FUCKED
>>741823120basedI always feed slightly wrong information into a LLM when I use it
https://x.com/per_simmons_/status/2069588907801424263
>>741825818>anyone with an IQ above room temperature can instantly spot AI art and musict. spends explaining how real van gogh painting is actually soulless AI>nobody cares about AI codewow, luddites being hypocrites? shocking
>>741829712>FUCKEDOnly absolute retards invested in AI """services""" and not the companies that actually provide the hardware.
