S-STEAMSISSIES!!!??? OUR RESPONSE!!??
>>741823829Its not a perfect cube.
Don't know why Valve even wanted to enter the small pc scene when it was already saturated with stuff like this.
>>741823829holy based
>>741824749They tried to do that 11 years ago.They didn't sell at a loss nor had the proper contacts to make the hardware cheaper so there was no reason to buy them because it was often cheaper to build it yourself and the price-performance ratio didn't add up, also had no customer base because the people that might want this already have a PC.Does this ring any bells?
>>741825247Massive flop, only thing that comes to mind.
>>741823829So the only difference is that the Steam machine has like 300W max power draw while this box has 500W.>>741825247It's because they partnered with Alienware as the main provider and nobody wanted that shit because it was always overpriced.
>>741825694>So the only difference is that the Steam machine has like 300W max power draw while this box has 500W.>GPUso you are retarded
>>741825931That's the only difference. Besides it being a much bigger computer.
>>741825694>It's because they partnered with Alienware as the main providerThey had several versions as cheap as like 400 bucks.It was just bad value.
What the fuck is a stim machine?Why cant the french fucking speak english. Just call it the cube machine or something.Fucking retards. Just because of that I'm not buying that stupid shit.
>>741823829Will they accept warranties?
>>741823829I'm noticing the usual kikery methodology
>>741826275>only differenceholy shit you're so fucking retarded lmfao
>>741823829@VALVE @POTUS @FBIDO SOMETHING
is that rx 9060 xt 8gb or 16gb because if it's 8 then it's just e-waste like the steamcube
>>741826615but valve wants these to existthe sooner others take over the steam machine production the better>>7418266868and no, 8gb goes a lot further on linux
>>741826792lol lmao
>>741826531So what's the difference? >Same DDR5 ram>8GB DDR6 graphics
>>741826835https://youtu.be/6dXMMwGDW-w?si=KCd6tyLQ303T7eDF
>>741823829Valve is winning because its overpriced box made someone make a better box using its free OS!!!
>>741823829The Steam machine sucks but these comparisons are a bit disingenuous.>3x the physical size>no integrated 2.4ghz controller adapter nor bluetooth>no SD card slot>listing lack of preinstalled OS as a feature is a bit silly
>>741823829>same ram>less storage>bigger case with an added lie that you can't upgrade gabecube>same OS>Steambox is marked with red crossesThis is one of the vilest pamphlets you can make
>>741827090>double channel, 4 slots upgradable ram (compared to ONLY one channel)>entirely new ballpark gpu>Several slots ssd, upgradable (compared to unupgradable, only slot)Look I know you drink semen and love to defend the billion company but I'm gonna need you to use your brain for a moment
>>741823829>There StimIs this a typo, or a sign of the image being AI?
>>741827090>suspend mode>integrated steam controller supportcec hdmi>more specific support from valve and other developers probably making dedicated graphics settings like with steam deck>an sd card slot with hot swapping on the frontIm not even planning to get one but there are specific things it does well
>>741827423>AIWorse, it's Fr*nch
>>741823829Size? Thermals? Every person doing these "we did steam machine but better" seems to be missing important information like this.
>>741827748Also: power supply brand? Rating? GPU brand? This is like seeing a fucking pre-made build on Amazon and it pointedly fails to list out the brands it's actually utilizing.
Valve makes their own OS which would be worth 50$.
>marketing team defence force already out in drovesYou know brand loyalty is a fool's game, right? The international mega corporation doesn't need you to defend their shitty business decisions.
>>741827952But they give it away for free
>>741823829>spending this much moneydo you guys not have computers already
>>741828086Okay well then sell the "Stim Machine" to me then and explain what power supply it uses and what brand the MOBO/GPU is, because Valve gets some default trust to not be running the shoddiest chinkware parts to cut costs while somebody who puts "There Stim Machine" as a flyer headline can't even do the basic legwork to make sure their English isn't repugnant.
>>741823829Couldn't find the image OP posted but I did find the boutique build used in it. Central European newegg clone, doesn't ship outside of the mainland (no UK either). This did not exist until after the Steam Machine price was revealed. The cheaper price is only if you want to assemble the computer yourself.The problem is that while the product page lets you customize each component, you don't get to actually choose the brands or even the specific models. OP's image says it's a Ryzen 5 8400F but that's not listed in the builder, just "Ryzen 5".Also it doesn't come with SteamOS (or even Windows), you have to install it yourself.
>>741823829
>>741827470>Integrated steam controller supportYou can install steamos on anything, retard
>>741828238>because Valve gets some default trust to not be running the shoddiest chinkware parts to cut costs(nta and a bit ironic, but they did use the shoddiest chinkware part and refurbished them to cut costs btw)
>>741827872>>741827748When has that shit ever mattered? Size? Thermals? You retarded faggot, if you have good performance you can underclock. Size? BUY THE STEAM DECK
>>741826686Its 1080p gamingWhy would you need over 8gb for that?
>>741823829The only benefit from the steam machine is common hardware to build PC optimization around. It is why some console versions of titles play better on consoles compared to PC despite the PC being superior in regards to hardware.
steam saars lost
>>741828353>It doesn't matter to me right now so it has never mattered to anyone ever!
>>741823829Even 999 is overpriced honestly
>>741828317I meant that it doesnt need the puck to work like other pcs do
>>741823829doesn't have any of the bells and whistles that the steam machine has
>>741828238>because Valve gets some default trustValve drones actually say this out loud without pinch of irony then get mad when you call them drones.
>>741828353>When has that shit ever matteredLaptops tout specs that look really good on paper, in fact I bet somebody could find a laptop which looks better than the steambrick on paper, but the problem is that peak performance doesn't matter when it underclocks itself due to excessive temperatures. If you think these things don't matter, you don't know anything about technology, which means you're actually the target audience of the Steam Machine.
>>741827250correct valve doesn't give a shit about whether it's their dick raping consoles they just want to see them raped
>>741823829I would be VERY worried about overheating in that thing.mini ITX cards dont have much room for airflow so your shit is gonna be running hot as fuck with that card in there.Valve put a bit fucking heatsink on their box for a reason bro.Its gonna peak and start thermal throttlingand possibly burn something depending on the wiring.
Steam Machine was made for white Aryan men, not shitskins
>>741828425Yes. Moreover you brought up the issue of PSUs but they too have never mattered since they're strictly regulated as they are PSUs and can burn your house down. Only somewhat valid point you made was size until you remember that you need a display to actually use this shit, it's not portable eitherSay nigger chatbot
>>741828436>Even 999 is overpriced honestlyyeh, but the fact you can already find prebuilts that dump the gabecube this early shows just how bad the shitbox isdunno what were they thinking (I do know, money, they never did care about the consumer, just wine and dine criticizers and form a cult for passive social rep if you haven't noticed by the amount of cherrypicking in this thread, but eh)
>>741828610>PSUs but they too have never mattered since they're strictly regulated as they are PSUs and can burn your house down
>>741823829What case is that?
>>741823829What do you mean closed? I thought you could easily upgrade the ram and ssd for a steam machine?
>>741828674Das rite. PSU marketing is literally the most Jewish shit ever, it's actually the least important component. I'd rather have a chinkshit PSU and a good case than a bad case and a amazing PSU t. has masters degree in EE
>>741828238>explain what power supply it uses and what brand the MOBO/GPU isthey don't specify it, but they also don't specify it on their other prebuilt PCs, yet it's a fairly known and trusted prebuilts company in france, and they use brands that everyone else uses, mostly asus, msi, and gigabyte for the main components(CPU, GPU, RAM, MOBO)
>>741828749
>>741823829>look ours is cheaper....if we just ship all the parts to you and you do all the work>and look its upgradeable, which means you end up spending more, but you can!
>>741823829Looks cool. Buy it. You're not forced to buy a Steam Machine because Steam isn't a monopoly.
>>741824749Because even if it flops (which it will), that still means they make millions off of retarded cultists who want to CONSOOM the brand name.
>>741823829It's already sold out.
>>741828749Based electrical engineer ensuring job security by encouraging people to fry their components with shoddy PSUs.
>>741828824all 50 units
>>741828749You should at least buy from a brand you can sue if the thing burns your house down instead of a chink no name that just disappears
>>741823829>gigantic fucking box is better than a tiny cube you can stick in your backpack>actually 500 GB is better than 512 GB!do yuros not have laws against false advertising or something?
>>741828795it's cheaper either way cause you're getting a vastly better CPU and vastly better GPUthat configuration is comfortably capable of native 4K 60fps in most modern AAA games, whereas the steam machine struggles to keep 45-50fps at upscaled 4K in most AAA games, even non recent ones
>>741826686I think developers should target 8GB Vram>t. 4090 owner
>>741824749>saturatedmini ITX is a nichewhat valve is doing here is shining a spotlight on it and giving manufacturers an incentive and developing software for that new market they're trying to carve outthe end goal is obviously suffocating consoles as that means more people buying games on steamvalve doesn't even like the hardware market and wants to focus on software
The steam machine is ruining steam and valve's image and brand reputation day by day. Nobody will want to buy the steam frame when its known as an overpriced, undervalued bad products that are going to be abandoned.
>>741829061>mini ITX is a niche>what valve is doing here is shining a spotlight on it and giving manufacturers an incentive and developing software for that new market they're trying to carve out>the end goal is obviously suffocating consoles as that means more people buying games on steam>valve doesn't even like the hardware market and wants to focus on softwareThis is either the shortest 5 stages of grief or the greatest mental gymnastics I've seen on this year
>>741829061>valve doesn't even like the hardware marketThe only people do who right now are NVIDIA, AMD, TSMC, Micron, etc
>There>Their>They're>Therier'yres
>>741829061>valve doesn't even like the hardware market and wants to focus on softwareI recall Gabe said he envied Nintendo because it managed a whole ecosystem of games made for its hardware. I don't think Valve hated the hardware space at all; this whole thing is them trying to ape Nintendo model.
>>741829207He's right. Valve doesn't give a single shit who sells the hardware, so long as it has SteamOS on it. That's why they kept working on making SteamOS compatible with everything. Hardware for them is just a shoe in the door for Steam and if they didn't have to be involved in it, they wouldn't be.
>>741823829>SteamOSThis "competition" is literally what Valve wanted.
>>741828746It is. There's a good amount of bullshit in that comparison.
>>741829508>open platform>no subsidizing>no exclusivityYeah, pretty much exactly the Nintendo model.
>>741829534I'm sure Valve would like it if people bought the Steam Machine, but the broader picture is that everyone making these Gabecube Killers are doing all of the legwork for them because the obvious ambition here isn't to push SteamOS, but kill Windows as THE PC gaming platform. This has been the gameplan since Windows 8, which a lot of younger gens and newer PC gamers don't know about in terms of what happened.
>>741824749they're not losing money and it's a way to threaten windows and test replacing it with linux. there's literally only upsides for them. on top of giving them a larger userbase to test their os
>>741824749I think the original idea was to bring up the bottom 10-20% of hardware spec on Steam, as those people on fifteen year old tablet PCs don't buy many games, and to get more people onto SteamOS to build up that market. They got screwed by the hardware apocalypse, and probably should have just hit pause on the whole thing until things had evened out again. I suspect Sony and Microsoft will both end up doing that after the reaction to this thing. As is it isn't capable of doing what they wanted, the bottom 10% doesn't have $1,500 to spend and the reception is so negative that I can't imagine this increasing the SteamOS user count enough to matter.
>tutorial included in this page>vibe codedwhatever this is, is designed to steal your money and not ship a product
>>741823829>there
>>741829508The hardware side of things is dogwater for Valve. Most consoles are subsidized, they exist purely to make money via software and subscriptions and such. Valve doesn't want to bother with hardware, they want everyone else to start selling SteamOS on their hardware and paving the way with the Deck and Machine is what gets the ball rolling.
>>741827090>So what's the difference?>better gpu>better cpu >dual channel ram There's more to computer specs than the ram and vram size my nig
>>741829029no but the better cpu and gpu make up for it
>>741829508>this whole thing is them trying to ape Nintendo model.Thank god they're not actually doing that or it'd be another locked down drm box with games taken hostage to force its purchase.
>>741823829>S-STEAMSISSIES!!!??? OUR RESPONSE!!??It comes with SteamOS. Put 2 and 2 together, Valve wins regardless. This is always what they were after.
>6 inch box that is inaudibly quiet without thermally throttling even when drawing up to 200 wattsHonestly that aspect seems pretty impressive, I thought it would be noisy. Too bad about the price/performance.
>>741828608No pajeet, you are not aryan.
https://www.newegg.ca/asrock-deskmeet-x600-series-barebone-system-deskmeet-x600w/p/N82E16856158094You can build your own steam machine with the same form factor, just needs cpu,ram,storage and ram.
these niggers using claude to produce their shitty advertisement/webpage are part of the problem
>>741824749most of the shit they've made is usually just incentives or pushes for people to start doing shit differently. The controllers were supposed to allow developers wider support when creating support for mainly-console games (that developers usually just flat out fucking ignore). The VR was to incentivize more people to actually give a shit and play/develop VR games because there was already a drought for games on top of retarded fucking exclusivity deals for shit like the Quest. SteamLink was a mistake, I guess. SteamOS is a Linux distro made specifically to run and develop for games, but I have zero knowledge about Linux so this is where I shut up. Steam Machine is meant to be a quick way to just take all of the previously mentioned combined and have a compact machine that is compatible with the Steam Frame's Wifi-7 wireless configuration. I've been trying to tell niggers for almost a decade now that this shit isn't trying to put their foot in the market: it's just solving very niche issues and none of you are going to have to buy it if you don't have that niche. This will not stop the internet slop machine from making the dumbest comparisons possible, because people think that if enough people shit on it they'll lower the MSRP for a product that has an already limited clientele pool.
>>741830898I agree that custom building is the way to go but it's an 8L case vs the SM's 3.3L, so not really the same form factor.
>>741823829why does it take 2 weeks to assemble
>>741823829>literal whonobody gives a shit
>>741823829It's still SteamOS. This shit isn't like consoles, it all benefits Valve.
>>741823829Limited warranty
>>741823829DELET DIS RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>741829178>it's 1200it's $1040 something. same as OP's thing fully assembled.>6x the price of the steamdeckthat just went way up in price too and is now like $800
>>741827303>bigger case with an added lie that you can't upgrade gabecubeWhat the fuck are you gonna upgrade? More irrelevant RAM held back by the shitty soldered GPU?
>>741827340>Noooo don't defend the billion dollar company, defend the million dollar company!!
>>74182524711+ years ago Valve didn't do their own hardware, they're were many "steam machines" with specs all over the place so nobody knew what to get or what would work.
>>741823829Shots fired
>>741824749To be fair Valve doesn't know either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPNW3GCIeOM>Steam machine unboxing from Valve>Prominently features a tattoo saying "I am my own god"Valve is completely trannyfied inside out, isn't it?
>>741834612Buying Campo Santo was the dumbest fucking decision valve ever made. Like why? Why the fuck did they do that?
>>741823829>stim machine>doesn't dispense dexedrine0/10
>>741827090i think people like you should be enslave, how retarded can you be nigger
>>741823829what's to respond toJust get the more economical hardware.thats the entire point of the gabecube. it isn't proprietary. use what you want.
>>741834612why does that make you so mad?
>>741824749Gabe needs another yacht and thought maybe retarded kids would get their moms to buy it for him
>>741823829I have a computer, thus this is irrelevant to me.
>>741823829>Try to search this to see the source>Most of the results are just reddit threads on valve/steam oriented boards>Check them for the source>It's just cucked out valve cultists being pissy>One guy trying to say it's unusable compared to the Steam Machine because it doesn't have HDMI CECThis has been a funny diversion, the cope is amusing
>>741828274>you don't get to actually choose the brands or even the specific models.Unlike the shitty steam amchine, right? All those options!
>>741828795If you want it preassembled it's the same price as the shit machine, except much better specs, and actually upgradable.
>>741823829Holy fuck lmao
>>741834716>Buying Campo Santo was the dumbest fucking decision valve ever made.Why is that? It resulted in Valves only real game release in a decade that wasn't just another Casino Strike reskin.
>>741823829>people can't recognize the insanely obvious AI noise pattern, let alone the AI-like styling in generalGrim.
>>741823829pretty sure pounds are worth more than dollars
>>741834053>with an added lie that you can't upgrade gabecubeOk show a video or even just documentation on changing the CPU or GPU in the shit machine
>>741835730What's your point? It's the biggest prebuilt company in France, so your implying it's not real is just grade A valve cultist cope.
Valve cultists in this thread are outseething even the reddit ones, impressive.
>>741823829Isn't this literally what Valve wants?
>>741823829holy KEK, disturbingly based
We all should just flay Valvetrannies and feed them to the gators along with their overpriced shit machine
>>741824749I think it was literally so people do.....this. I mean Valve wants you to buy from Steam and they want you playing in Linux. The Valve Machine was just to show that off
>>741823829>There???
>>741835784>projectingI'm not defending Valve though I see how you took my post that way. If this is real then that's good. My post is rather about the lack of discerning posters who should be questioning legitimacy immediately because of the AIness of the post, instead of realism of the claims. AI slop is the first red flag anyone should get on alert from.
>>741830229>tranime
>>741835730Even funnier since /v/ just had a massive 500+ post spergout over AI and now everyone is all BASEDBASEDBASED despite the obvious AI red flags.
>valve fails epically with steam machine>valve fails epically again with steam machine (2)LMFAO. Just go make Half Life 3 you stupid fat fucks.
>>741826363SteamOS was getting worse performance than on Windows at the time as well.
>>741836475don't forget they failed with the steam vr too. they even made a half life game exclusive for it and it failed. gabe is obviously washing dirty money with all these gimmicks.
I went to ldlc's website. Couldn't find this product. Where the fuck is it?
>>741824749Valve would prefer that you get your hardware elsewhere so they won't have to deal with the support. Think Intel's Ultrabook program and Microsoft's Surface as a template for other manufacturers to follow suit.
9060 is a trap. if you buy one you'll just wish you'd spent a little more on 9070 which performs way better
>>741825247>>741826363Do these pop up on Ebay sometimes?
>>741834612Nah between the trannies and this. That company satanic as fuck.Any self respecting company would IMMEDIATELY have that covered in a public facing....anything!
>>741836657https://www.ldlc.com/n7282/
>>741823829Where do you buy this. Can't find it on the goofy french ldlc site.
>>741823829I'll be getting the Gabecube, but this looks cool as well.
>>741837041there's just no good entry level gpu these daysb580 is a meme, 5060/9060 8gb while fairly priced for their performance are already getting vram limited in modern games, and on the other hand the 16gb versions are way too overpriced
>>741823829Does it fund Gabe's yachts? No? Not buying.
>S-STEAMSISSIES!!!??? OUR RESPONSE!!??>LDLCOh, the group that bought Top Achat and Materiel.net to globally rise their prices? No thanks.
>>741824749This would've been years in the making, only for the mass inflation of hardware prices completely ruining Valve's plans. Given the time of announcement for the Steam machine, suffice to say I'm surprised there are people who didn't see this coming.
>>741823829>if you assemble it yourselfmajority of retards are afraid of thisprebuilts exist for these retards
