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What is the best ARPG currently available?
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>>741840607
It's PoE and PoE2 is gradually catching up. But ARPG is an unfulfilling genre even at its highest quality and highest levels of play and engagement.
>picrel +1000's and 1000's of hours in standalone PoE client
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>>741840607
Grim Yawn
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Fortune Summoners Special Edition
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>>741840607
Honestly ARPGs as a whole have just lost me.

In every single one all you do is run between enemy mobs spamming the same set of abilities and sift through endless amounts of loot. There's some enjoyment in building your character, but the gameplay loops just gets stale quickly.
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>>741841274
This.
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>>741840607
Vampire Survivors
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>>741842025
brotato is the only good auto-shooter ever released
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>>741840607
minecraft dungeons
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>>741840607
if you're judging it by the booba than poe 2 has actual nipples
>>741841965
what else do you want to do in an arpg?
everything in the genre funnels you to killing mobs as efficiently as possible.
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diablo 2
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>>741840607
Lost Ark
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>>741840607
>What is the best ARPG currently available?
Sacred GOLD, NoX and Divine Divinity are on GOG and on sale right now.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/sacred_gold
https://www.gog.com/en/game/nox
https://www.gog.com/en/game/divine_divinity
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>>741843278
>what else do you want
nta but personally an actual sandbox of mechanics with the environment enemies and party
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>>741844023
Would second the divinity arpgs if larian fucking patched that shit
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Ys 8 or Grim Dawn if you mean Diablo-like games
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>>741844023
fucking based
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>>741848237
Based CrateBro. Soon.
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POE2 filtered me with its shitty loot drops due to being so heavily market/craft focused. That shit just doesn't feel right in this sort of game to me.
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>>741840607
No breasts for a dickhead
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>>741844023
Sacred is pure unadulterated dogshit
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>>741840607
Source?
Also Darkstone's getting an enhanced port/remaster kind of thing, shockingly. I don't remember everything they're doing, but they're adding controller support, which is a big thing for me and my chinkheld.

>>741841274
I still don't get Grim Dawn. It's got everything I like and lots of it, but "Grim Yawn" really says it, the game's one of the only games I've ever played where I could be fully awake and still manage to fall asleep while playing it. I think it's the music?

>>741841965
>pirate Diablo 3
>the way skills work, you unlock them and their little enhancement things at specific levels
>once you have the skills you want, you're done, there's nothing more you can do with them, unlike in Diablo 2 where you'd have to work on maxing them out, which would help hammer in that you're getting stronger
>no stats to put points into, either, which makes it worse
>you just level up and unlock more skills and those little enhancement upgrades, but you don't need any of those as you've already got what you want/need
>leveling offers no mechanical changes until you eventually start unlocking those paragon points ages later
>the paragon stats are pretty incremental and you get them so late they're kinda dulled by it
>far as I know, D4 doesn't improve this much / at all
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>>741849795
Grim Dawn is pure RPG system tismkino with utter bupkis in the gameplay department. Visuals and sound are incredibly flat with weak feedback, and the combat isn't particularly engaging, even for the low bar set by isometric ARPGs.
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>>741849795
If Grim Dawn wasn't so doom and gloom it wouldn't be Grim Yawn.
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>>741850000
I don't understand what this is trying to convey but I know better than to argue with digits like those.
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>>741840607
I have titan quest and grim dawn but I always lost my enjoyment in playing arpg mid way because of the fear of playing it wrong and have a bad inventory management and decision
>oh i found this enchantment pearl that will give me +15% damage and +5% bleeding reaction to enemy
>if i use it on my current weapon, chances are im going to get a better loot in other area
>if i didnt use it on my current weapon and wait chances are im going to get a better enhancment that makes my saving useless at the end of the day
See what i mean?
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>>741840607
It sure as shit ain't titan quest.
What a fucking snoozefest of a game.
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Titan Quest 2 is, so far, the easiest ARPG in which to run a HC character. Just stack barrier and the barrier skills/passives, and you're totally unkillable.

>>741849795
>Source?
Pretty sure it's Torchlight Infinite, going from the UI.
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Shadows: Awakening looks like shovelware but I had actual fun playing it, unlike most titles where I had to force myself.
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>>741850212
Torch light 2 isn't bad
It's definitely better than Diablo 3 but that's not saying much
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>>741850229
That game is bold to be an ARPG where enemies don't respawn.
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>>741850135
There's a thought technology you can use to defeat this daemon.
>whether I use it or not, I'll eventually find both a better upgrade, and a better weapon
>therefore i cannot incur any long-term penalty from misuse
>so it is OK to just do the locally optimal thing of upgrading my weapon immediately, since there is a clear benefit, and any downside that may arise will be temporary
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>>741850357
Show some respect.
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>>741840607
Nioh 1-3 still the best
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>>741843726
I've played roughly 500 hours in the past but completely forgot that LA was even a thing.
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>>741849507
I liked Sacred 2 but all I remember is that it had tits and asses and high heel angels, and the map was fuckhuge, and the elf capital was gorgeous
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>>741850492
That's why 2 is better
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>>741850418
this is actually a good advice wtf
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I haven't played Sacred or Diablo.
Which one do I get?
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>>741850884
sacred is eurojank
diablo is a classic
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>>741850418
thank you psychic rottweiler
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>>741850884
I would wholeheartedly recommend Diablo 2, it’s still played by tons of people nearly 30 years later for a reason, its probably going to go on sale for the steam summer sale that starts later today
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>>741851072
>giving nublizz money
That's literally funding terrorism. Plus nobody who made the game is still around.
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>>741849507
The game was great when played with friends, not in the friendslop way, just having a friend play different class and fueling you class exclusive runes was dope as fuck. The fact someone at lvl 10 could trade actually useful things with someone who was lvl 100 was bloody brilliant.
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>>741851072
Just make sure to play the real one not the demake.
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>>741851807
>the original paladin is clearly some kind of middle eastern/berber
>hmm let's turn him into a nappy haired, cotton picking nigger
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>>741851907
I'd have been fine with him being black and looking like in the art for the original, but that wasn't diverse enough.

Gotta make him a nappy haired big nosed big lipped ooga booga spook to check all the diversity boxes.
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>>741852016
the western reddit generation genuinely can't comprehend the concept of tan skin and that caucasians can have it too. they see dark skin and instantly assume it has to be george floyd.
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>>741851907
We wuz arabs n shiet.
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>>741840607
Idk why no one mentions Shape of dreams(o believe it's an ARPG moba hybrid?) But it's a really cool game



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