Toby somehow made pixel art designs woke
This character is so untoby I feel like it has to be one of the tumblr artists he hired
>""""art"""""
>>741841847Toby isn't a pixel artist, most of that work has always been Temmie
>>741841847He literally hired like 5 trannies to work on his game.
ITT people who haven't played Mother 3
>>741842260nigga I did play Mother 3 Blue is Deltarune is just not great design wise, it does feel forced
>>741841787>when you fire a furry artist to draw humans
I felt like the Pixel art is getting too good for Deltarune, I guess Toby forgot to enshittify them this time
>>741842770I would marry Susie without a second thought.
toby fox is a hack
>KRIS I NEED THIS>I'M KINDA HOMELESS
>>741842260i did play mother 3 the magypsies were weird then and toby's bootleg version is even worse
>>741842840noelle is the wife material girl in ch5 if you pick the kriselle options
this shit has always been woke. furfag lgbt tumblrina horseshit for tween emo faggots. whats different this time?
>>741842896Yeah Noelle would be a fine choice too.
>>741843072this but unironicallyI have no idea how people delude themselves it's anything but
>>741841787>>741842770the art and story of this game seems like it's designed for LGBTQ people. never understood how it got so popular
>>741841847>>741842147Then why didn't they give me my Berdly romance? Isn't Kris "male-coded" or whatever the fuck and thus it's gay?
>>741842147And why did Robert do this exactly?
>>741843418the first game was big on tumblr, it carried that audience with the faggy teens of today/v/ really has no excuse to be this into a gay furry game, though
>>741843753Kris had one of Berdly's feathers on hand and blushes when asked why, there's your Kerdly crumbs for this chappy
>>741843827The first game was also big on /v/, what's your point
>>741844142that /v/ has no excuse to be this into a gay furry game. Undertale was filled with faggotry, you can't balk at Deltarune for being more of the same
>>741843753He’s a a gay male and that a a big no no. Only girls can be gay. Even Ralsei is gonna troon out.
>>741843418>never understood how it got so popularThe devs had richkid connections to build off of, and any media which panders to gays is perversely fast-tracked into the mainstream these days.
mettaton has been a character for over a decade, you just dont like this gay dude because he doesnt give you a hard on
>>741844689it's 'cuz he's kinda' lame comparatively.Mettaton is cool and can suck two MILLION dicks and /v/ will cheer.
>>741841787I kinda secretly want the other chapters to be updated with new sprites and animations
>>741844753Any porn of this cutie yet?
>>741844818Of course.
>>741844753andrew hussie designed this character right? doesn't feel like toby
>>741844869Nice
>>741844689Mettaton is not bad at all He's at least an appealing character
>>741842896What the fuck is this writing lmao. Please tell me this is a retarded fan's edit because there's no way this can be real.
How the fuck does this game recover from chapter 5? 6 not only has to start tying together all the lose ends but it has to actually progress the plot, all with no weird route to fall back on. Kris is beyond fucked at this point too, so thats likely going to be a factor as well going forward.
>>741844926wow cool drag queen tranny.
>>741845056Agreed.
Aqua and Seth were the best part of the entire chapter
>>741844753that was what sucked about the flowers, the only ones that were memorable were aqua and seth. yellow was neat too but they all needed to have been more prominent throughout the chapter IMHO
>>741845056he's a robot popstar
>>741845108I loved yellow trying to kill himself.That was wonderful.
>>741843812I don't know. Maybe he wants a tranny harem.
>>741845042All the writing in this chapter is really weird. Its to the point where it almost seems intentionally bad. Susies "cuck speech" is especially outlandish.
>>741841787Thank you for understanding the situation and skipping a chapter for me , Noelle.
>>741844869Sauce
>>741845056Yes
>Avoid talking to both yellow and blue at the end>Game : "YOU GOTTA SAY GOODBYE TO EVERYONE BEFORE LEAVING"FUCK YOUTHEY SUCK ASSSSS
>>741841787Such a nothing character compared to the other flowers.
MY HEART AND MIND KEEP RACINGI COULD BARELY SLEEP LAST NIGHTMY BRAIN'S DOING ZOOMIES BECAUSE OF THIS FAGGOT GAME AND I'M STUCK AT WORK UNABLE TO RELEASE THAT ENERGYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>741845514Can't wait to see the actual files for theseEntire fucking scene was intoxicating
>>741845564just the SMILE but super blurred
>>741842896But she cucks you with the alligator anyway?
>>741841787So, to Recap:>Onionsan was cooked and eaten.>Kris and Susie drew the Don't Forget picture on an ice cream punch card that Sans gave to Papyrus>Mad Mew Mew 2>Asgore knew all about the Dark Worlds and fountains (And the use of Weird route SFX makes me think that Dess went through something similar to Noelle)>Ralsei is aggressively Sandbagging>We have the last Egg and the Last Shadowcrystal>Tropical StarwalkerAnything else to add to the pile?
>>741845959>>Kris and Susie drew the Don't Forget picture on an ice cream punch card that Sans gave to Papyrusdon't forget (heh) the version of this pic in UT is specifically the weird route one, and sans mentions seeing a really strong snow storm once
Can anyone explain to me the seemingly inevitable mistake of western writers to fuck up episodic series, comics, etc by wasting time until they're forced to rush to resolve the majority of the story at the last second?
>>741846061>westernare you implying eastern writers aren't just as guilty of this exact phenomenon?
the more I read about deltarune the more I feel like I dodged a bullet
>>741846061social media poisoning and associating with "those" people, do you see the sort of people on toby's team in the credits
>>741846061It's only kinda weird because it's supposedly the game he actually meticulously planned for and knew the story from start to finish, it was supposed to be his passion project and Undertale was only the "test run". It's actually amazing how complete Undertale turned out to be in such a short amount of time
>>741846084I read a lot of comics and manga and it is WAY more prevalent in comics, to the point where it almost feels like standard practice sometimes.
Just played 5, gameplaywise it's solid but what the fuck happened to the writing/characters? It feels like it's quite litteraly poisoned in irony like Gerson was saying. Flowery, seth and Aqua and i guess Yellow were fine? But everyone else was annoying. All of the characters felt like a fangame. I get it's the character chapter and not the big lore one but outside of Ralsei being pretty cool, I like that he gets a new ddead animation and stuff to show he's determined now, Susie felt annoying and Kris didn't do anything new.
>>741846379Do the Weird Route
>>741846538It was good but it last for 15bminute and im not doing the aborted one since nothing point toward it being a different one outside of 3 dialogues
>>741845959>FRIEND is back
>>741846717Yeah and he's an asshole. Doing massive damage to the party.
>>741846379>It feels like it's quite litteraly poisoned in irony like Gerson was sayingThis succinctly explains the problems with ch5. It's not "the fifth chapter of deltarune". It's "an imitation of undertale and the first chapters of deltarune" but called chapter 5.
>>741846379>The cope possibility The "prophecy" or some other force is now directly manipulating characters to ensure a things happen as planned >the realistic possibility Other people were given more of the writing to do for this "filler" chapter and this was the result >the depressing possibility Toby is actively fucking with the story out of spite and has no plan beyond that at this point.
>>741845234At the very end when you're walking her home? I thought that felt really out of place too, like the last line about bringing Noelle in was only inserted at the end because I did all of the Noelle+Susie options during the fair and shit. But then I saw the cutscene afterwards of them preparing the castle and I was like "Oh nope this happens no matter what"
>>741842260Why would we need to play Mother 3 for a different game not even in that series? That would only be relevant if tobyfox was creatively bankrupt. incapable of original concepts and only able to create derivative work that can't stand on its own merits.
>>741846164>>741846194This has been my biggest gripe with the episodic release schedule. He's obviously changing shit and throwing things in there as a response to the game's fandom, like the Mike shit. And his fandom is literally the #1 reason why people don't like his games, so i don't understand why he would ever let them influence his work
>>741845959>Onion San was turned into takoyaki by one of Gaster's followersHoly shit Toby
>>741842260what does this uninspired generic tripe have to do with mother 3?
>>741846379I noticed an abundance of pop culture references too, which is always a bad sign. It made me think of Anton Blast vs. Pizza Tower, the former being an amalgamation of references to current Internet culture like liminal spaces and biblically-accurate angels, while Pizza Tower actually has an identity of its own and creates culture rather than imitating it. Chapter 5 of Deltarune is an imitation.I mean, they literally have this exact fucking joke in the gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsHorwwZMdk
>>741845051>How the fuck does this game recover from chapter 5? 6 not only has to start tying together all the lose ends but it has to actually progress the plotthis is how
>>741847282yep
>>741847324Flowery does a Jojo pose too
>>741841787He didn't draw these, he's a composer
>>741845514this game is shit and you're a retarded unfunny homosexual with no personality
>>741845051It literally just needs its Undertale moment. The song specifically I meanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HIKNbnV8nwIf we do take Toby and face value that this is the last "fun" Dark World then we are gonna have to do some segment like the Abandoned Laboratory and have whatever weird shit this game wants to reveal be hidden there along with whatever sad shit for Dess Toby decided to write upHe can still mindfuck/twist/throw a wrench/whatever in 7 but somethings gotta give
>>741847169>Blocks access to the upper librarby>Prevents you from standing near the lake in chapter 4>The next chapter he's selling fried octopus that tastes like onion>These are sold in G, but Deltarune uses dollars (also corrects himself and makes them free)>In the weird route he wasn't at the festivalWhat's this guy's fucking deal?
>>741846061this happens in japanese stuff too, see Dr. Stone
>>741847802>>These are sold in G, but Deltarune uses dollarsoh shit i didn't even notice that
>>741843812Because he's a literal Tumblr leftie?
>>741841787>/v/ finally realizes deltarune is made by a bunch of faggots for faggotsWell it only took you way too fucking long but better late than never I guess
>>741844689Mettaton looked like handsome Squidward, this thing looks like something from a Tumblr blog
>>741845564
>>741846379Is anyone else working on the writing for this game? Do you think Toby gave all of chapter 5 to that idiot?
>>741845564>>741848026bonus 'unused' sprite deck
>Kris cucked into the ground>Susie and Noelle both confirmed that they never even liked him to begin with>Asgore turned into a literal bottom faggot>shit characters>tranny that nobody likes is the secret boss>nothing important actually fucking happens>snowgrave route is dogshit and only lasts 6 seconds, also will skip chaptersIs this the worst chapter in the game? At least Tobert was kind enough to spell it out that unless you were chemically castrated you shouldn't care about this game
>>741848160>>snowgrave route is dogshitlook man i get you don't like the chapter but you don't gotta lie like that
>>741848198>duuuuude le yandere doe i'm so hardIt's putrid and underbaked, Snowgrave peaked with Chapter 2 and only got shittier as time went on
>people are basedpogging because the retarded smiling cat who has done absolutely nothing shows up in the background for 1 nanosecondGrim.
>>741848389Flowey did that too in Undertale
>>741847684>"Ooooooh trust me guys this is it this is the final wacky wahoo chapter now Toby's going gloves off and shit will really hit the fan THIS time totally!"Oh shut your fucking mouth, dumbfucks have been doing this trite all the way back from Chapter 2 and literally nothing has actually happened yet besides bread crumbs facilitating people into hallucinating that the actual story will totally happen and that we just gotta wait 3 more yearsThere will never be a dark chapter because this is the Tumblr comfort game
>>741847684NTA but I will admit that only the beginning and end of Undertale were the super impactful parts, but the incoherence of chapter 5 doesn't really bode well. Also, chapters 4 and 5 should have been swapped. It completely breaks the flow of the game to have the protagonists spend an entire chapter agonizing over the prophecy and the emotional turmoil the characters experienced from it, and to have a taste of the real ramifications of these dark worlds via the titan, just for all of that buildup to be forgotten as the very next day they return to goofy goo goo gah gah land mode and act like nothing ever happened. The only reason more people don't notice this narrative whiplash is because it took months after chapter 4 for chapter 5 to come out. Imagine playing that shit back-to-back and getting three hours of Susie+Noelle shipping WITHOUT ANY CAROL DESPITE HER BEING THE ONLY SOURCE OF TENSION AND CONFLICT IN THAT ENTIRE PLOT LINE
>>741843812one of them did gamemaker tutorials before anyone else was doing them so toby likely used his tutorials to learn gamemaker.
The titan showing up and being as impactful as a wet fart should've clued you in that the prophecy shit literally does not matter
>>741846717So that's what the weird red thing was that I randomly interacted with back then.I thought i glitched out on something because i only saw like 10% of the bottom of the mouth
>>741848880I mean it took a lot to take down just one and apparently they're commonplace during the roaring. Also if you have the black shard you apparently deal so much damage that you skip an entire phase of the fight
>>741848973>and apparently they're commonplace during the roaringisn't it also implied the one we fight is just a newborn, or is that a fantheory from nowhere?
>>741849030I don't remember because the chapters all came out fucking months apart
>>741848973The roaring just being a congregation of jobbers that you can 1shot with Gerson isn't exactly intimidatingAlso, the fight is shit
>>741849127Gerson's dead nigga, and canonically he's the strongest character in the game so far, so you can only go down from there
>>741844869Cute
thinking about it, swapping chapter 4 and 5 around would also help fix the thematic difficulty a bitinstead of getting your shit pushed in by some jobber flowers, you'd instead be getting your shit pushed in by The Thing We Thought Was Going To Be The Final Boss
>>741849204As if the characters won't get stronger in an RPGIt also doesn't matter, he was just some old fart writer and having some teenage edgelord be infinitely more dangerous in a fight than the literal beasts of the apocalypse is so thematically wrong that you could only accept it if you were too busy stroking your hog to the idea of furry lesbians over actually paying attention to your writing and your name was Toby Fox
Have a look at the main story, without any side material for argument's sake>Chapter 1 introduces the world, an even amount of wonder and grit>Chapter 2 is all fun-and-games besides the lore drop and Kris' enigma>Chapter 3 is fun, tinged with bittersweetness and escapism which is all set-up for the Knight's reveal to change everything>Chapter 4 has plenty of whimsy and humour, but it either is all contextualised in how serious and alien the Church world takes itself, or it takes a backseat to the very serious parts like Gerson's guidance, the Titan, the Prophecy, Kris' broken home and his promise>Chapter 5 we regress to 100% goofy shit with maybe 1 minute straight of sincerityToby, your fourth chapter signalled loud and clear that playtime was over. You have two chapters to wrap everything up. Two chapters. That's so ridiculously little, so why are you making things harder for yourself by pissing away what should be a very important build-up chapter?The festival was "fine". I find Suselle cringe but I accept it's a good time for levity before the fountain resets it. Asgore's Dark World starting as nostalgia-bait to trap him could also workBut then the seven flowers come in and it feels like we're in a completely different game that doesn't care about what came before or has to come after. They're so divorced from everything else. Any sense of attachment to Asgore is pure lip-service: they don't connect to him or his past in any meaningful way, because they're way too obsessed with connecting to each other. And it runs for so LONGWhere is all the momentum from Chapter 4?Why does the superboss have no connection to any shadow crystal or "freedom", unlike all the others?Why does Susie not even look like she's putting on a facade to ignore the bleak outlook that the end of chapter 4 should have given her?Susie talks about how it's time to get serious?No, she's an idiot, it WAS time to get seriousYou have to work overtime to redeem your story, dog
>>741849553>Any sense of attachment to Asgore is pure lip-service: they don't connect to him or his past in any meaningful way, because they're way too obsessed with connecting to each otherThat's part of the point I think, that the flowers can only relate to Asgore in superficial ways because they're flowers and all of the "love and care" Asgore gave them was just water and talking, and the rest of his influence they absorbed through osmosis from them being in his house. And Flowery was the one trying to push them all together as a family unit because he wanted to construct a ruse to keep Asgore there after seeing his real family abandon him. It's all fake and Asgore even says that he knew as much from the beginning, he was just playing along to get more information about the concept of dark worlds
>>741841787The timeline>VG Cats does crass internet humor, references Problem Sleuth>PS does its own thing>*After* Problem Sleuth is over and finished, Homestuck eventually attracts gay shippers from tumblr, nothing to do with PS>years later, UT comes in. At best you could call its writing Toby's unique style, at worst tumblr gay shippingSo no, UT isn't "old school internet humor"- like for example, VG Cats as some undertroons claim it is. Far removed from it. Saying such is plainly delusional given the degree of separation and indirection (X who mentioned Y who is prequel to Z...), no matter how hard they try to cope. As demonstrated, it's tumblr writing for attracting shippers-barely a subset of true Interwebz slapstick.
>>741849553>But then the seven flowers come in and it feels like we're in a completely different game that doesn't care about what came before or has to come after.The flowers are there to tell you that dark worlds exist as a form of therapy and escapism from the real world.Wait, you mean that was the entire point of chapter 3? And a heavy plot point that kept getting mentioned in every other chapter? Well here's yet another reminder just in case you forgot!Fucking hell.
>>741844340>Rich kidThe Latinx just continue to make up headcanons about Toby.
>>741850145>the entire point of chapter 3Lol. Did you forget about the scene with Noelle in chapter 2? This was already obvious from there, it's the city she always wanted to go, it reminds her of her lost childhood and sister, etc. Ch. 3 itself is superfluous. Wouldn't surprise me if chapter 6 hammers down the same thing again considering Toby Fox seems to have Alzheimer's.
>>741850012>he was just playing along to get more information about the concept of dark worldsIt doesn't help he just gets increasingly fed up with the charade in general. the flowers never really stood a chance with how focused Asgore was
>>741843418>LGBTQkys
>>741845245Noelle is so based, skipping that bullshit for us.
>>741844689>you just dont like this gay dude because he doesnt give you a hard onwow you've cracked the code Einstein.People don't give a shit about ugly freaks in the real world, so quit pretending for brownie points in games and give me hot babes and guys like Mettaton. Stupid nigger kikes and amerimutts obsessed with fake performative actions and postures.
>>741845042That's exactly how Noelle's always acted though.
>>741850717>Asgore drives away his fake family the same way he drove away his real oneBy God, Toby is a genius
furfags ruin everything
>>741841787Didn't Undertale have a literal tranny robot and a lesbian sea monster with her fat fucking dinosaur bitch lover?
>>741849553This is a filler chapter. Its the bount arc of Deltarune.
>>741850012If it's the point, could they not show it more? They had opportunities>Orange offers Asgore a friendly spar: Asgore warns he doesn't feel like holding back because he's locked in on work and bops her out while he gets back to work>Blue gives a monologue on love, which Asgore refutes by saying he has to commit to his love for his family>Yellow recites some of Asgore's great deeds as a cop in the name of Justice, and Asgore insists that's not enough>etcI'm a hack but the point is that any flower besides Flowery should be doing things for the man they claim to love so much, and the main story (Asgore) should be relevant. Between entering the Garden and beating Flowery, it is so easy to miss the scant few nods to Asgore that there are, and even easier to forget what the whole point of anything you're doing here isEven if that's so, that's part of the problem. The story is not the flowers. The story is the goddamn Deltarune. It's the Dark Fountain, it's Asgore's tragic past, it's Kris' agenda and the prophecy and everything else. It's not these super-speshul OCs donutsteel >>741850145It's even worse: it's the blatantly spelled-out point of chapter 2. Even worse still, we got that subtext from chapter 1. What the fuck are we doing retreading old ground when there's so much new to say? Has Toby never written a story before?
>>741851119Yes it's why it is complete dogshit
>>741849553Chapter 5 flowers was all memberberries and callbacks to Undertale, even down to "omega mode" like Omega Flowey and such.
>>741846194Many such cases. Sometimes it's the side project you hand-wave that ends up better than the one you've been thinking about making for decades
>>741851149It raises the question of why even include it?
the amount of cope going around is getting out of hand.
My biggest fear is that all the schizo theories end up being way better than what we actually get
>>741842896then she cucks you anyway
Suselle is confusing me to no end.>Noelle keeps thinking almost romantically about Kris the nanosecond a past memory is brought up>Susie makes us backseat the whole "date" and her more emotional interactions are also with Kris>Weird Route implies all of Noelle's behavior is dissociate thus make the romance feels fake
>>741851390Either it's bad on purpose to set up some meta prophecy bullshit or Toby is a retard
Was I the only one disappointed that Carol didn't show up this chapter? Would've been nice to see what she was up to
>>741841787Where is this face used
>>741847802Around goners, never act with honor.>>741851390It's wrong. It's all wrong. Even the fucking ARG emails literally told us this. If you fucking drown, the game autocorrects you back onto the normal route instead of exploding. Kris' hair is still wet and he had 1HP. He isn't even allowed to drown. It's forced.You WILL get Mr. Gaster his Deltarune and you WILL like it. No wrongwarping into chapter 7 and ruining his plan to make Kris' life perpetual misery and extract grief energy from him.
>>741851390Chapter 4 told you the Prophecy was immutable, but you could walk between the lines.Chapter 5 demonstrates how tight the leash is and it WILL bend over backwards to proceed.
>He didn't pick up on the Kris-Soul resolution foreshadowing in Mew MewAnyways good chapter. If you told me Ralsei would be one of my faves back in the Chapter 2 days I'd call you crazy.
>>741845042its been many years since it began, anon, the dev and friends have been trooning out more and more, going from somewhat LGBT ridden to... this.Hes lost the plot thanks to TDS and HRT being his only sustenance for the last 1000+ daysHence why its so popular on /v/, home to mentally ill troonites these days.Case in point:>>741845514>>741845564its always been "a bit gay" but its clearly escalated, you know toby is sat there with blue hair tweeting about the republicans while his fat wife temmie goes out and gets bulled.
>>741851685I'd call you crazy now.I dunno what people get off on saying "He's finally growing a spine and being his own person" and it's being a petty little bitch against a respectable character.
>>741851736Some of you guys need to actually take a shower and go outside. You legitimately cant keep being like this for too long or it stops being ironic and you legitimately become psychotic as you lose grip with reality.
>>741851685Ralsei finally getting a backbone? It was nice to see.Ralsei getting a backbone but refusing to open up about WHY he's feeling that way and only getting the reason why as Flowery tells us at the end of the chapter? Completely contradictory to the main message at the end of chapter 4, fucking terrible writing.
Lmao /v/ waited years for a new chapter just for it to be poorly written lesbian melodrama
>>741851993>YearsA year.Little sharteens can't even count to one.
>>741851993You supported it though. Should have stood on your principles and changed it. Mod the game and change it.Or I will.
I miss those fanmade flower designs already.
I think the chapter based release is the worst thing that could have happened to this game. There were several times I was taken out of the experience by something that basically screamed "HEY LOOK I'M REFERENCING THE FANBASE REMEMBER WHEN THE FANBASE DID THING??"
>>741852403I would take the seven little flower niggas over this.
>>741851874ive showered at least twice a day all week, and am actively not going out because its fucking tropical heat and 70%+ humid out there.but either way im not sure your response should be aimed to this guy as hes the only one ITT that isnt mentally ill>normal guy who is okay with 'some' gay if game good>thinks its getting a bit much though>criticises the writers/dev, deservedly, for the shitty writing>laughs at weirdos saying a scene in the gay game was "intoxicating" or how another is breaking down at work from itI like UT/DR too, in spite of all the cringe, but christ what the fuck happened to /v/ while I was gone? Why is it like this now? We used to bully faggots for being faggots.
>>741842896>Haha Kris you spelled it wron->...>12 text box lore dumpHoly fuck, is this seriously what normal route fags are reading?
>>741853037That's exactly how Noelle has always acted though.Seriously the girl goes on about how she can never express her thoughts aloud then goes on massive fucking rants in her head.Being a mind reader is suffering.
>>741841787This design doesnt feel like Temmie or Toby, it has the tumblr troon artstyle while its usually more anime like chibi
>>741852778This game always got a pass, people have warned you countless times for how rabid this fanbase is about defending it and its creator. It's not that /v/ changed or anything, wait until GTA 6 have any kind of woke shit or any other big enough game and you will see what I am talking about. Hell, I am pretty sure the new GOW announcement got shit for less (I wasn't here, took a break from this place for a while)
>>741852778What, you don't find drowning Teenagers in a Children's game while the game provides a delicious rendition of it intoxicating?Sounds like you're the faggot, here.
>>741853165Why is she drooling over Kris in each of her mental monologues though? The prospective girlfriend is RIGHT THERE. It's the SUSELLE route.
>>741842896People dont understand Noelle and Susie are brainwashed by the song from the Lake. Its literally PizzerinaXPizzaCake ship. As the player we can make Kris pick Susie, Noelle or Ralsei like we can Bratti, Catty and Nicecream. It will be so tiresome to convey this to general brainlets consuming this game. YES Kriselle and Krasei and Krusie will get their endings.
>>741853297>For lessThe new GOW announcement was a complete fucking joke on every level. The concept. The execution. You go from the scene of Kratos saying some solemn words before burning Fey's corpse to her doing a fucking double jump out of the area she wakes up in. Her sidekick is a slime cube named Frank and he's on the fucking cover. It's everything that should be a fucking April Fool's joke and it isn't.
>>741842896Susie is even cuter wife if you pick Krusie options and ignore zombie trance like Suselle lines
>>741851736>This guy doesn't find being Evil IntoxicatingWhat are you, a gay hippie?
>>741853334The prophecy is a form of mind control if you haven't noticed.Kris is trying real hard to break it and not doing so great.
>>741842896Bruh she just confirms she loves Kris and Kris also confirm he loves Susie on Krusie pick and Noelle on aborted weird route. I can see where this is going
>>741844753It took me ~20 attempts to beat her (first battle) without using any healing items. I got humbled hard.
>>741851390TRANCE Suselle theory is going to be the new DessKNight
Why are the flower niggas humans in universe? I don't remember the game ever actually giving a reason as to why they're so adamant about that.
>>741853230>>741841787it's literally steven universe's artstyle btw
The chapter felt unnecessary long for what little story it provided
>>741853676yeah they are all So Sorry tier out of place except the bratty loli
>>741853669>humans
>>741853334Now that we know where Noelle's mental illness stems from (not seeing her or anyone else as a real person), we can basically surmise that she idealizes Kris's spontaneous, shocking behavior when he was younger. Remembering a time where her heart wasn't completely frozen still obviously makes her melt.
>>741853676seriously, how did it go downhill so fast?
>>741853669they are flowers which are living being rather than objects so they larp as humans. Better question where is the hot sexy dragon girl in a bikini in the dark world??
>>741853334She's going after Susie because that's a Noelle thing to do.
>>741853676Nah.Like, are you retarded.
>the INCIDENT™ ruined our lives>i've studied the INCIDENT™ to prevent this tragedy again>but i've become so obsessed with the INCIDENT™ that it tore our family apart>now we know how we can solve the INCIDENT™ >we must contact carol and expose truth to the INCIDENT™TELL ME WHAT HAPPENED YOU OVERWEIGHT FUCK JESUS CHRIST
>>741853867Noelle can only be Noelle, Susie can only be Susie, Suselle can only remain Suselle. So far Normal route is the Suselle Prophecy route, Weird route is even worse than Normal and we dont have the Krusie true path.
>>741853910Nope, sorry! We're not getting any answers until Chapter 7, which will be hours upon hours of exposition before the big final boss fight.
>>741853910didn't you hear him he said what happened was the INCIDENT™
>>741841787buccal fat removal in a pixel game?
>Cyan is just diet JevilIs toby starting to run out of ideas?
>>741853910The biggest, most awful, most tragic event in all of Hometown history. Watch out for the Knight the 16th student
>>741853910Toby is the vaguepost king
>>741853797>>741853852I know they're actually flowers. I'm asking why do they larp as humans specifically? Why not monsters?
>>741853951I swear to Christ if this really occurs then, after Digital Circus, it'll just be proof that indie creators have no fucking idea how to give their work any satisfying conclusion
>>741853961Entire chapter 5 was retrace of Chapter 1/3 map, enemies and songs. Although i guess it suppose to indicate that Kris made the fountain in chapter 1, 3 and 5
>>741853910>Kris, I want to apologize to you specifically>I'm not gonna mention for what>I'm just sorry>And I've always been proud of you
>>741854007Because asgore loves his son a human
>>741854007Since it's a Dark World made by Kris, I guess he saw the flowers and made a subconscious parallel with the Cage - as in both his role and the object in his room.Thus all the Flowers are reflections. Aqua mirrors Kris, Yellow mirrors Asgore, Flowery mirrors Rudy, etc.Deeper than that, it's probably a reflection of his relationship with Asgore.
i dont even play deltarune its just fun watching the daily cope of people hoping the story will bend in a way the creator obviously doesnt intend
The funtime tone should have ended with chapter 3 desu
>>741854235Why notDon't people engage in entertainment to get what they want from it, to be entertained?
>>741853910>ARG tells you to fuck off if you vagueposted>Chapter is filled with vaguepostingYou're not slick Tony
So Mike, what did you think of "Deltarune Chapter 5: Broken Things"?
Was there a reason Flowery entrusted the secret code to Susie?Was there a need to explain that Kris struck a deal with Seth off screen? Did it even accomplish anything? It came off as a weird moment because Seth was already antagonistic towards the Fun Gang.
>>741845051It would take literally 30 minutes of storytelling to tie up loose endsToby doesn't need a quota of having the game solve X amounts of questions raised earlier when it probably either >Won't ever be solved, Undertale to this day did not answer absolutely everything>Can be solved near the end of the game
>>741854032Game Theory mindbroke an entire generation (of both consumers and gamers) into thinking that more convoluted=good. The fact that vagueness generates theory videos to keep something relevant in the algorithm is just a nice bonus, honest.
I just finished the main story (not weird route). Is it just me or does it feel a bit rushed? Like this chapter was supposed to be dedicated to Ralsei, similar to Susie in Chapter 4, but most of his scenes felt really half-hearted and un-serious. For example, remember how Susie's healing was a whole ass plot-point and was a big deal character arc? Well Ralsei can shoot fireball apparently, but only once for some reason, it's literally just "damn you can do that?" and then never mention it again like what?
>>741854235I swear, I have never seen any other fandom in my life with this amount of coping, not even Boku no hero was like this. I don't know what UTDR does that makes people feel that way.
>>741853910It's Dess's disappearance, surely?
also I'm the Knight again! Hi!After my Chapter 3 reveal I'm contractually obligated to show up each level no matter how contrived.My amazing 3 minutes of screentime will do nothing to reveal any further facts or intrigue about me. See ya in Chapter 6!
>>741851685
If the secret boss was going to be an 8th flower, why not just make it a red one paralleling Chara?
>>741851103They at least had some semblance of character even if they were poorly written. Every character in Deltarune currently feels like shitty fan-translations of poorly written characters which makes their gimmicks stand out even more (in a bad way).Not only that but the entirety of Undertale was written like some sort of joke and only had some parts where shit get serious, in Deltarune it swings wildly between the two constantly which makes everything harder to take seriously and makes it hard to actually relate to anything in the game.All of this is for me to say, Toby is a retard for hiring troons to help him make a shittier version of his old game
I wonder who was the writer for Chapter 5's Weird Route cuz it's clearly not the same guy that was responsible for the writing in the Normal Route. There is a clear difference in talent.
>Kris hated Tenna so much he made sure to exclude Asgore's TV from the Dark Worldlmao
>>741845959Asgore was never fully in on the holiday conspiracy and was being used/strung along>>741846061People have fun writing fluff, and surprisingly enough people do enjoy having some fluff granted they enjoy the characters and shit.You could resolve the entirety of Deltarune in about a chapter, this just doesn't happen because that'd also be disappointing for different reasons
>>741848712Carol doesn't show up?
>>741854547TVs know so much shit so makes sense
I paused my retarded chibi game to play chapter 5, and in the end I think the retarded chibi game is better writtenFuck the elves btw
>>741853413my favorite textbox
>>741854521That's just Toby's brain when he's thinking of yuri, and not thinking of yuri.
>>741854521Put the bow on
Susie is a slave to the prophecy
>>741854521Tobert writes the real route while the lackies get the normal route.
>>741854613and its somehow not even top 10 fakest screenshots of all time
>>741843753He’s a dirty chud incel and only exists to be mocked or murdered.
Does anyone have a translation for the vocaloid lyrics in Mad Mew Mew's theme?
>>741841787I'm lookin at your stream why you tryin not to laugh
it's kino
>>741854425Play mina the hollower baron lionel has class and style unlike the knight.
>>741854032Anyone with an IQ above 90 should have clocked just how bad Digital Circus (along with all the other utter trash has been pumped out by the same publisher) is and stopped watching after the first episode.A good premise can't save a shitty show from it's own bad writing, just look at what happened to Game of Thrones, same thing but with a massively bigger budget. I've also learned that just because something is "indie" that doesn't mean that people should cut it so much slack that it barely has to try and that troons are shit at writing, they might be good at coding but they are completely shit at any of the serious artistic aspects of their own creation because they are terminally stuck in their own heads.
Why was Blue so.... zesty?
>>741854316Because the game hates it when the heroes make actual progress and the game is stallingThe whole flower kingdom is an artificial obstacle created just to stall
I buy into the theory that the Suselle ship is happening in such a jarring way that they might not even like each other but the prophecy HAS to have them like each other somehowthe final shot of Susie getting everything ready for Noelle in the ending while Chris just stares from outside the closet makes me believe that them forgetting what happened in ch4 is intentional and everyone is slowly breaking down and acting off because the prophecy is making them do so
>>741854784Has to be to top yellow
>Fatti got cuckedlmao, irrelevant shitter
Why does the blue nigga have a face sprite? Were they that proud of thay ugly tranny?
6 has to be the shelter, but I have no fucking idea what we're getting for 7.Also I didn't explore as much as I planned to at the end of the normal route (went to school early without realising), can you walk to the shelter with Susie or is it blocked off? Is there anything at the town hall from Rudy falling?
>>741854901Are they not a Darkner?
>>741854923She just tell you "not this way" so you can't go down at all
>>7418549236 will be noelle's house, 7 will be the shelter
So what did you think of her and her and song? https://youtu.be/tlFnfEWZCtQ?is=Yy_dkNvM8e34hMK1
>>741854702Now that I think about it, it's crazy how most of the main group is some minority and people ate that looool
Do you think Deltarune will finish before Putin dies
>>741854960No they're flowers
>>741855008yea
>>741854994Underwhelming for a final schizo, should have been FRIEND
>>741844926I’ve never realized how huge his bulge was…why would Alphyus build that…?
BIG FUCKING TAIL
>Sees susie and ralsie cockblocking the cafe date with Mew MewWow. Just… wow. Words can’t describe how much I actually want to murder those two after witnessing that stupid bullshit. those fucking assholes.
>>741854380You missed the point he made that he's trying to do things differently for the sake of changing the prophecy by any means necessary, I imagine he generally is supposed to be more of a black mage instead of what he's doing nowHe even tells Flowery that he would've been able to incinerate him if he wasn't actively holding back
>>741854316what even was the deal? i remember seth saying some shit and wondering when the fuck did he owe kris anything
You have no idea how pissed off I got when I saved up tensionbits just for the TP bar to get reduced like that.
>>741855031>took a year to release nothing>immediately takes another year-long break before he releases the next chapter
>>741854521I wonder if the Weird Route is the "real one" he dreamed a long time ago, but we get to play the Normal Route for the context.
>>741854793I can see it now how this game is similar to omori. Ever since toby showed concern about that, I have been intrigued in how it shares similarities with omori.
Go back. >>>/vg/
>another huge tonal shift from the previous chapter>none of the shit from previous chapters gets addressed>everyone feels like they're acting out of character considering what happened in ch4>the hyped up festival is an underused nothingburger>Suselle is played straight and is far worse than I dared to imagine it being>Raslei is a tranny>the flowers are boring at best and annoying at worst>Flowery kills the mood in every scene he's in>secret boss sucks>yet more annoying gimmicksGod damn, this went well past my worst case scenario estimation, It actually feels like a huge shitpost. This was NOT made by the same person who created Undertale and Ch1The fact that nothing happened when we're this far in to the story guarantees that the ending will be some incoherent cut to black bullshit no matter what route you take. None of the mysteries will be addressed in a satisfying way, if at all.
>>741853961you talking about aqua? she's fucking harder than jevil ever was
APOLOGIZE.
Mysterious wind
>>741854521You must of forgot that Undertale's writing is very similar where it almost hits you with whiplash when Toby is either in funny mode, yuri mode or creepypasta mode
Man...
Who cares, Tobyniggers will eat this slop anyway and ask for more.
>>741854994It was very fun. Thank god for that - Flowery was schizo enough and that's without counting the Flower Gang.
>>741846194It's pretty obvious it's gone off the rails from what he originally imagined.He keeps saying how he loved old RPGs and chapter 1 had way more emphasis on RPG mechanics. They slowly gave way to a parade of mini games.
>>741855068kris VILL sit on the chair to watch two dykes who were never interested in him lez it outkris VILL remain a lonely cuck until Ralsei decides to sissifiy himand (You) VILL be happy
>>741855142Post yfw Chapter 6 is an alternate Chapter 5 playing off the initial one's tonal shift through cross-save bullshit
>>741842896you can ride the ferris wheel with her if you do that btw
>>741855159>you talking about aquaYeah>she's fucking harder than jevil ever wasI'm not talking about her fight, I'm talking about how her personality is recycled from jevil
>>741855068fanfic potential
>>741855201
>>741855230
>>741855236Not really. Jevil had a structure - everything is a game/lie so he can do whatever.Aqua is just an enthusiastic child with no concept of anything.She's probably recycled from Kris, though.
>>741855048Who says it's the last schizo? There might not be any more Shadow Crystals, but that doesn't mean we can't have some more secrets.
Sexo
>>741854994It was okay. Spritework was cute but unless it's building up to actually working with Kris, she's kind of pointless.The fight was good; didn't lose but it's a good fight.
>>741855201What caught me off-guard was that Kris was actually cheering up Noelle instead of just scaring her
>FAHAHAHAHow do you even sound it out? Is it like *pffft* before you laugh or what?
>>741855185He's pants on head retarded.m and ch 5 being shit doesn't change that
>>741855251If weird route ends up killing them i say fuck em. The only person who gets to fuck with this cucked piece of shit is me.
>>741844753>>741844869Aqua sexo, fuck anyone calling her blue soul or flower
>>741854994I don't really care for her as a character, I feel like the body/soul being at odds thing is not something really worth exploring since we already know the soul and Kris aren't on the best termsProbably the worst secret fight mechanically, the ghost being separate was only used for one single pattern and it was an easy one. Flowery is harderHer song is the most memorable song in the whole chapter and its solely because Miku is in it, the music standards for the whole chapter was very low though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_P-v1BVQn8
>>741853676I watched the show. The only thing they have in common are being colorful. The funniest part of this whole post is that each character you assigned acts like the total opposite of their counterpart.
>>741855201...I'm starting to think Noelle isn't even in love with Susie.
>>741855369>Fa>Sounds like "Ha" With an F instead of a H.
>>741855435That's too obtuse to be true
>>741841787Been that way since Undertale.
so what do i do with my weird route save now
>>741855127I can see a bit from how omori taking control of headspace and manipulating it feels similar to the prophecy manipulating characters.
>>741854784You couldn’t tell?!
This is probably a question that has already been answered, but does the strength of a Darkner come from how much love/adoration/value their Light World counterpart has?>minibosses like jackenstein, flowers are well-looked after and cherished by lightners>king and lancer are powerful cards in a poker deck as kings and aces respectively so would be cherished (tho king's got a tear apparently)>queen and tenna are valued objects by the cast in the real world>more common objects are generic enemies with less intristic value>shadow crystals being broken dreams provide proof to the idea that value in the eyes of lightners has power in the dark world (plus gerson was beloved and was strong without needing a crystal)
>>741855415she only likes her because she looks like dess
>>741855463you wait
Toby leaving in all these hints that Kris is into Susie just seems kinda cruel with how hard he's leaning into Suselle. Just make the poor fucker asexual at this point.Even Catti got her heart broken by the jealous creeper wish fulfillment yuri pair.
>>741848712>to be forgotten as the very next day they return to goofy goo goo gah gah land mode and act like nothing ever happened.Why do you think Kris created a Fountain anon. Especially when things were getting serious around them.>Weird route is about forcing things to go your way even if it's unpleasant or hurts people>Normal route is about rampant escapism doing nothing to address inevitabilityThis is copium of course, but I'd like to think it was intentional. Also it might just be my own brainworms but why is this chapter so genuinely tranny coded with the flowers and the whole "Being who you're meant to be" bullshit.
>>741855463Nothing. Cry or seethe and do the aborted weird route because Toby fucking culled it ASAP.
>>741854960They are neither Darkners nor Lightners. However, they do have physical forms (flowers), so you can still talk to them.
>>741855463You wait for CH7. Then you forget about this game since it will take years to see 7.
>>741841787It's so over...
>>741855484Lancer is a jack, not an ace
>>741855490b-but the chemistry
>>741855230>>741855263Jesus Christ these retards were really supposed to fall in love completely naturally before Dess fucked everything up huh?
>>741855518culled what
Oh well, I still have hope on aborted WR since Noelle seems to retain some semblance on what they were going to do in WR but in a meta sense
>>741855502Kris is into both Susie and Noelle. And in the past might've also been into Dess (a bottled childhood crush; he had no chance with the age gap and Asriel in the picture).
>>741855558Deltatroon transformation is complete.
>>741855357>>741855393I’m guessing that we will split off and fight with Kris (normal route) or against (weird route)
>>741855463Load up chapter 6. Play through chapter 5 with the aborted route because it's still part of the route somehow.
>Chapter 7 is going to come out in 2028 at the earliest10 years of development btw. Toby this isn't Team Fortress 2 what the fuck are you doing?
>>741853910he didn't flush and clogged the toilet
>>741855558>Ralsei might have be a cross-dressing girlDid you forget what "he" looked like without glasses?
>>741855518>do the aborted weird routeis it worth it? doesn't seem to be that different
>>741855601The fate of all Deltarune fans
>>741855648A dark fountain, if you will...
>>741855629I bet 2029 and also two more years on top of that for SideB.
>>741855142that might be the pointEveryone acts like ch4 didn't happen, everyone is acting off character because of the prophecy. Kris is a mess by the end and Susie could see the battle screen and didn't give a fuck and now she is in la-la land waiting for her new gf
>>741855693Brown fountain
>>741855558Watch this end up not resulting in anything.
>>741855091Why ask if you specifically decided to not pick the "give" option which would have given you your answer?
>>741855502It’s pretty clear he at minimum cares a lot for her because if you say no to walking her home he takes the soul out put (you) in a balloon and walks her home.
>>741855629The development was slow from the start. Yet for some reason you decide to complain now. Why?
>>741846085You did. It's Toby Fox's Homestuck. And it's made worse by having some good character moments and gameplay sandwiched in between absolute garbage.I'm getting major feelings of sunk cost with each new chapter.
>>741855704>Susie could see the battle screen and didn't give a fuck and now she is in la-la land waiting for her new gfIts like toby thought to himself "how can i absolutely butcher susies character?"
>>741855057she had to figure out somehow that she is a lesbian
>>741855753>nowI never stopped since Chapter 1
>>741855742Kris is clearly in love with her. How dumb do you have to be to not see it
>>741855228Fuck that. I’ll kill everyone for him.
>>741855784But she isn't. Literally no Toby Fox character is either straight or gay/lesbian. They're all bisexual just like the man himself.
>>741851874As an outsider watching a friend play Deltarune, the random forced yuri stood out as bizarre and horribly written even by the standards of this series. There really is no defending it
You guys can't grasp the GENIUS levels of cuckino in the lake>Suselle>She accepts being an npc, Noelle is a Noelle>Kriselle>Noelle hates following rules, finally feels like a real personOkay but cuckposting aside, this feels fucking intentional, i clap toby
>>741855629At least it comes out and actually has n time. You have NO IDEA how many indie devs I’ve invested in and they just fucking go radio silent for years, but say they are “working on it” with nothing to show when they feel their audience drifting away.I will gladly wait as long as I’m kept in the loop and given updates.
>>741855201Holy shit... Deltarune is truly an NTR game. I don't understand how Kris hasn't killed himself yet.
>>741846787I think Toby is in fact doing quite a few things out of spite, yeah.
>>741851874>g*tchatrannybegone to your containment board. We actually talk about games here.
>>741855463You keep it and an aborted version where you let the screen fade to white instead of proceeding until crash. Then when Chapter 6 comes out you use the aborted save, and keep the first one until Chapter 7
>>741855731nigga this shit released at 2am for me by the time i gave seth the feather i was borderline passed out, i don't remember shit from the start of the castle until the top of the tree you grow
>>741846787>Toby is actively fucking with the story out of spite and has no plan beyond that at this point.He has to own the chuds and give trannies their epic political victory by destroying his own magnum opus lol
>>741855829>Suselle is existential horror from Noelle's perspectiveDamn.Also it's ironic how the Prophecy's strongest soldier ended up being Susie.
>>741854045holy fucking shit
>>741855865Green pippin poster was entirely justified.>>741855918Who is the dragon in the prophecy anyway? With regard to Gerson's whole thing I mean.
5 and 6 should've been released together. It seems like a lot happened. The chapter was fairly long. The conflict between Ralsei and Flowery was interesting. It isn't surprising that Susie, who has always had the hardest time believing the dark worlds are fake, is making Castle Town her new home, so there is set up for something interesting there as well. Yet at the end, my first thought was>Am I getting filtered or did nothing happen? Very few new questions were answered despite Asgore owning a ginormous corkboard probably cluttered with details about the case. It's concerning that the highlight of the chapter was a 5-minute-long weird route scene.
>>741855874Nta but the story is actually good, the gameplay is fun, and the characters are sexy. That’s is good enough for me.
>>741855558>>741855601That's roughI liked undertale but never really got invested in deltarune and now I'm glad. In hindsight the warnings were there with all the 'fluffy boy' shit. It was just 100% pandering to faggots and trannies.
>>741841787Looks like a Steven Universe character.
>>741855951>I thought I heard someone using this motifGenuinely a funny bit.
How come Rudinn doesn't give itself 9999 attack 9999 defense? Is it stupid?
>>741855768but that's my point, the prophecy is what is fucking up the charactersI feel like Susie and Noelle don't really like each other, they have only known each other for a fucking day but they have to date and it's purposely hamfisted even though every other option makes more senseit's a cope though but given what happened in ch4 and how this one went including the ending with Susie wanting to bring her into the dark world makes me think that they are just getting mindfuckedI hope next chapter explains why people like Ralsei or sans are letting this happen when they clearly know about this shit
>>741855502throuple ending is being waved in your face every chapter, kris wont get to be starwalker until the knight business is sorted out or everything comes crashing down and everyone turns on them
>>741855952Nothing ever happens.
>>741855952It was just spinning the wheels. Nothing happened that wasn’t already clear in ch4
>>741842896This dialogue exists solely to make the NTR feel even more painful.
>>741855415The aborted Route should make it clear, Noelle liked Susie because she thought she was a non-conformist who could do what she wanted, who she wants to be.But Susie actually just does Susie things, but it wouldn't be a Noelle Thing to say "Actually,. you are better as an Asshole Bully", so she speaks kind words and helps the Prophecy along like a good little Noelle, so they have their faux ineffectual rebellion. But it is a shallow one.That is the key of the Carol phonecall, in the end Noelle has to run off and do a "Noelle thing", even though she wanted to rebel with Susie, she still can't commit, because she is still Noelle and loves her dad.Meanwhile Snowgrave have PROCEEDed past that point, Noelle is no longer Noelle, she can even PROCEED on her own now to take you into the are if you are a PUSSY. There is no phone call, and Rudy seems fine after his fall since it seemed to happened before you find and talk to him there.The normal route is bait for those who do not think, for those that follow their assigned path without thinking where it leads, it is the path actually treating the characters as toys, toys that play their role so (you) can get the satisfaction of "cute" moments.Deltarune will be the "Anti-Undertale", where Performative Pacifism and "feel good" chasing ignoring what the characters want and need gets called out as self-masturbatory.Lol, obviously not. That would be too based.
>>741855993Average /v/ user imagines really hard about a video game and then posts about it 8 years later to say "wow i'm glad my headcanon was true".
>>741855978>The gameplay and story are actually goodThat's literally what every g*cha tranny says. Go back to /vg/ you cretin and let people talk about actually kino games like deltarune and troubleshooter.
Is this the cuck thread?
Toby should update the sprites and old animations because the new animations are starting to clash with the old ones, example when Susie tries to catch Flowery with her hands when he banishes.
>>741855951Maybe the dragon is something from Lord of the Hammer that wasn't in the prophecy.
i cannot get aqua under 70% in no mercy, this attack just fucks me every time, harder than touhou
>>741856038I don't know what your post is supposed to mean.
why does she look like eram
I assume that the Tumblr part of the fandom (so like 90% of it) is happy with ch5? If so, then nothing bad happened, the majority is happy and the loud minority is just that, loud and obnoxious.
>>741856110Without play, the knife goes dull.
>>741856038>Anon finds out people can read warning signs You're retarded. You're problem is this fucking shitty rpg is taking a decade to finish so it's even funnier.
What's the song that plays during the fights with flower gang?
>>741856069>Is this the cuck thread?Yeah
>>741856093I don't know what your post is supposed to mean.>This game gave me the ick 8 years ago I'm glad I never played itAnd? Fuck off then nigger. Goddamn. Not everything needs you to say "wow I dodged a bullet". It's been 8 fucking years.
krusiecucks are getting what they deserve for ever hoping this game would be anything more than yuritrash
>>741856165Go to reddit if you want a hugbox.
>>741856148Your problem is being ESL.
>>741856129>I assume that the Tumblr part of the fandom (so like 90% of it) is happy with ch5?Yes, dykes and troons.
idk man this just felt like the same shit as every other chapter.
>Doe raped so hard she makes us drown her out of reality
>>741856193Go kick a chair out from under you rather than sit here trading quips with me for the next two hours.
>>741851103Yes but now the lesbian parts are no longer a silly side quest and are integrated into the main story and last 10 times as long.
>>741856150Petal Dance
>>741856160>dess likes his brother>noelle thinks they were just neighbors>susie clearly has no interest in themFucking grim. Someone save this man
>>741856129Problem is they've made the most interesting park of the game the weird route yet it's a small part of the chapter if you proceed
>>741856227Exactly. Maybe it's time for things to be shaked off a bit, no?
>>741856129>loud minority lol
>>741856129I liked it and I wouldn't say I'm tumblr. The festival was always going to mindbreak /v/, the game is very clearly going to have made Noelle and Susie at least attempt to datePeople just have theorized too many things to realize that these games exist to be shitposts and raw fun first, with theory bait in the background that doesn't get resolved, if that, until the end
I enjoy seeing kris get cucked and have a shit time: He's a faggot nigger and you're telling me people get upset on HIS behalf? lmao
>>741856091I figured out the gimmick for the first and second bullet pattern, but the third one (your picrel) is a pure skill check
>>741856227Uhhh stop thinking goy
>>741851390I genuinely believe it's to spite anyone that wanted something other than Suselle. The Mike parts have shown he's not above spite.
>>741856289>try to get with Berdly>NUH-UH WE NEED KRIS AS OUR THIRD WHEEL>Ralsei is Ralsei>try to get with Mad Mew Mew>NUH-UH YOU CAN'T DATE HER, JUST BECAUSE, YOU CAN'T, OKAY KRIS???
>chapter is so bad that a bunch of anons are going "it's mind control!!! everyone is acting retarded of mind control!!!"genuinely grim
>>741856347I think it's easier to empathize when you realize you're forced to live his faggot cuckold life at the same time he is.
>>741844316i wish you were wrong but yeah...
>play the Weird Route with my sister watching>get to the drowning scene>she suddenly goes quiet>screen turns white, start to spam PROCEED>"I didn't think he'd put a sex metaphor again">brain freeze>aborted weird route cuz of her dumbass
>>741844316Blue is clearly gay
>>741856418I'm not, I'm the little red soul and I hate him. I will pick choices to cuck him and have a lovely time
>>741856336>The festival was always going to mindbreak /v/So, does that mean only people from /v/ can understand the concept of humiliation and feeling like the third wheel? Don't you have any empathy, or what? Are you even human?
>>741856414Stage of grief: bargaining
>>741856032>obviously notOh how much I would disagree and cry and scream "Don't hurt the funny reindeer" about 24 hours ago.Now I feel as though there's something more to it. Susie saying goodbye to Kris without inviting them in to the dark world they both helped create, that's saying something about what's happening.I don't think it's going to change what Susie and Noelle feel, no, but I know it means Susie is "doing Susie things" rather than whatever she wants.Oh right and, the UT attack with flowery, having Kris and everyone literally T-pose with NPCs and fit into a Kris-shaped hole. That's some interesting visuals.As intrigued I am to try the aborted route, I would only go past Noelle's house with it if Toby doesn't give the player some way to skip the fuck through the lakeside scene without jabbing a thorn ring into Noelle.We were given the ability to skip all the others. Perhaps it's just a dark world thing. Who knows.
>Krisxnoelle shippers get cucked>KrisxSusie shippers gets cucked>KrisxPink didn’t even last a second because of fucking susie and ralsie Im sorry, does toby have a hate boner for kris and now we’re just seeing it in full view with all this gay shit?
Why is she such a failure?
>>741855484I'm pretty sure Tenna's whole deal was that no one gave a shit about him anymore.
Behold my new schizo theory>can't get the mew mew shadow crystal in the weird route>will have to force noelle to generate a shadow crystal herself from her sheer schizophrenic desire for freedom Here's how the Twisted sword can still happen
>>741856461Smart girl.
>>741855829
So Undertale is a dark world right?
>>741856528Reminds me of my own mom. Alcohol benders, waking up on the chair, having to cover her myself. The works.Even brought home a random dude a couple times. Very cool of her.
yes suselle happened but the kriselle dynamic in the snowgrave route is amazing. suselle is prophecy fast food, the brave hero and damsel in distress, while kriselle is two self-aware npcs pushing the boundaries of reality itself. noelle urging kris to keep holding onto her hands and saying "proceed", asking if he can still hear her, is more cosmically beautiful than the yuri slop being dished out in the normal route
>>741856414>chapter is so bad that a bunch of anons are going "it's mind control!!! everyone is acting retarded of mind control!!!"Anything to avoid admitting that Toby shit himself and wrote a load of garbage.
The game's boring. I'd rather be a darkner that jews lightners out of their money
>>741856494I suppose I don't blame them, eight years waiting just for him to butcher two main characters, superhumiliate another one, and turn the last into a tranny.
Y'know, I think this would be WAY less of a letdown if this and Chapter 4 were swapped around.Chapter 4 finally set up the stakes for what might happen only for Chapter 5 to regress right back into the Heehoo Funny Original Character schtick 2 and 3 had. If it were the other way around this'd probably make for some interesting character development before the actual build-up to the climax.That aside, I really don't get why all you guys are so worked up over all the LGBT shit in this game. I get it, it's 4chan, everyone here's an angry white boy and so am I, but I don't think the hate is justified. We don't get how it feels to be in the LGBTQ, and vice versa, and that's okay. No one's an expert on the human experience. All that is to say that I feel like the shitty cuck romance would've been hated anyway if it were straight.
>>741856584Undertale and deltarune is about sucking nigger dicks
>>741856521There is one Kris ship that doesn't get shot down or cucked. I'll let you guess which one.
>>741847282Antonblast is such a bizarre fucking game. It started off as a decent Wario Land 4 clone, then broke itself to become a Pizza Tower clone with WAY WACKIER visuals and a huge focus on speed, completely ruining the flow of the game. The creator likes to cope online it's not inspired by PT or Wario at all and actually it's inspired by Crash, but it's pretty obvious what he was trying to do.
>>741853363It amazes me how there are still people 5 chapters in who think there's going to be a chance of anything besides Suselle happening.That is some HARDCORE copium.
>>741856543That's assuming skipping to chapter 7 doesn't mean a point of no return
>>741856528Why is she such a slut?
Why does Aqua look like Kris?
I thought Catti was being ridiculous with her Susie hatred until the eyeball bowl scene made it click for me that she's ALSO a carpet muncher seeking doepuss.
>>741856650> I, but I don't think the hate is justified.Yes, it is. If Suselleshit wasn't gay, not a single soul on earth would love it. If Noelle was a boy people would literally call him a sexual harasser. But because it's gay, they gets a carte blanche to act as dogshit awful as possible without anybody being able to say a single bad thing about them because "muh heckin wholesome lesbiuns"
>>741856602Did your mom also bring home strangers she'd known for only 2 or 3 days at most?
>>741856610>click on this>realize too late what I'm looking atbitch spoiler that.>>741856751yea
>>741856674While Suselle is happening, sure, all other routes so far point to it being shallow and forced to some degree by powers beyond on how characters were acting There's a tragedy in the prophecy that still has to happen involving love.
Berdly wonPizzapants won
>>741856659Blacks don't exist in UT/DRYou don't see any
>>741856773the fuck are you doing in threads before youve finished watching/playing the damn content anyway anon
undertale was pretty good but this game is awful
>>741856584Its the bunker
>>741856773you are in a thread for a game released less than a day ago that you haven't played yet
What if Kris just creates a new dark world inside the lake while he is drowning?
While the Suselle scenes were cringy and forced, I don't care much if there's really no secret subversion at the end, if Toby wants his perfect lesbian relationship that's what the game has kind of been leading up to.The real problem was how Susie just changed because of it. Literally every scene focused on her from there was just talking about Noelle. No mention of the prophecy or her worries, or even Ralsei stuff that she used to notice, no everything was about what Noelle would like and how she likes her now. It's very jarring and even people who the ship seem to notice how weird it all is.
>>741856839He's drowningHow's he gonna knife?
>>741856820>>741856838I'm the idiot that swore off the weird route and intentionally gets info from here for it.Emphasis on idiot. I'm not doing that anymore, not after the lake scene.I just wanna know: does she FUCKING DIE if you go all the way, 'cuz i don't really want that.
>>741856038He's right though and he was right to not play the game, so what's your point
>>741843827They all have a crippling e-celeb obsession they love Toby they do nothing but talk about him. The game is almost never discussed.
>>741856851>The real problem was how Susie just changed because of itCharacter development
>>741856810>You don't see anyBecause theyre already in your mouth
>>741856893We do not know and we will not know until Chapter 7
my new wife
Anyone tried to pause during the lake scene?Or, pause spam?Just wondering here
See, this yurishit is why you should've taken the darknerpill.
>>741855127Deltarune is basically what if headspace character versions were self aware that they are illusions that serve as a toy for a fantasy and try to break free from it. It's funny how TADC also got some bit of this concept as well and feels closer to DR tha omori at times.I am not sure if there are more similar details to omori, but it will be interesting to observe.
>>741856492That is likely the point of this anonKris seems to be highly aware that they're locked in to some gay ass fate where nobody can express affection for them, this is the game hammering down how much that sucks
>>741856414I know man, i do a bit of schizoposting, but also, Noelle did decided to drown with Kris instead of waiting Susie, she kinda literally said ''fuck hometown people''
>>741856650Because all the rpgs are LGBT now and it's all so tiring
>>741856942right, I got that much.The risk of killing her and kris for good however makes me real sad.
>>741856893It's ambiguous, but even if you 'drown' the game snaps back into a sort of corrupted normal route where its strongly implied that it happened for real but got rollback'd by the game simulation or something. But her odds of surviving aren't great considering that she's 'used up' in MANTLE.
>>741856913Regression*
>>741856348it's funny because the teeth attack was my most hit one in my first run according to seth
Is Kris creating dark worlds on purpose to make Susie into a schizo? She clearly sees castletown as her home now. Is the final prophecy about how Kris and her will fight over closing it?
>>741856336>the game is very clearly going to have made Noelle and Susie at least attempt to dateNo that wasn't obvious at all, the underage troon fanbase (that includes (You)) just insisted it was until he added it to the game
>>741856738Well, yeah, but I think that's more because the fans are dumbass teenagers and not because it's woke specifically. If I'm not mistaken, isn't it framed as a fucked up and creepy relationship anyway?
>>741856893Noelle dies yes! Play the fucking game now retard
>>741856969Darkners are for darkners only
I was wondering why some anons itt felt so retarded, but then remembered that most of them are the same people who got angry at Toriel a year ago
>>741854897I felt bad for Catti there when previously I had no real opinions on her.
>>741856954>offmodelslop
>>741855127I think Deltarune having multiple headspaces in the form of Dark worlds that other characters can experience is extremely superiorThere's also something that Kris is extremely guilty over/repressing based on the ch4 egg room
>>741856738this is how lesbians work IRL too, intervening on a clearly abusive lesbian relationship is morally wrong because the whole premise of a lesbian relationship is that there is no longer a male to fuck it up
>>741857003MANTLE could still apply to normal route
>>741856893We'll find out in 4 years LOL
>>741857034> isn't it framed as a fucked up and creepy relationship anyway?No, it's not. You'rte mistaking writing with intent. Suselle IS creepy and fucked up and retarded, but the writing portrays it as wholesome and sweet and great and flawless.
>>741854994Worst secret boss by a large margin.
>>741856893It's a fictional character you pathetic faggot
So why was their a sun in a dark world? I thought the dark world was burning but it wasn't so???
>>741857040Toriel is still in the wrong she just shouldn't be thrown in jail for child neglect anymore.
at least the fanart is kino
>>741857038But I'd rather not kill her, so I will not go that far.
>>741854994Dogshit songBossfight is whatever
>>741857031Noelle was staking Susie already in chapter 1 and they path to them being together was obvious by chapter 2 even if it's through forced scenes and bad character writing.Thinking it wouldn't happen was being delusional. And I can assure you that there will be no secret reveal about it being wrong in the normal route.
>>741854994Harder than The Knight and less fun than The Knight
>>741857106Ah, I think I get it. It's MEANT to be portrayed as fucked up and creepy but it COMES ACROSS as Le Wholesome because it's badly written.
>>741841787>>741841787>Trailer with segments of previous chapters for seemingly no reason at all (it’s not a general Deltarune trailer like the 3 + 4 doubled as)>Weird tweet about dialogue “you’ve never seen before’”>Official Chapter 5 playlist has songs from the other chaptersWe HAVE to be missing something man there’s no way this is just foley
>>741857031Toby likes YuriI don't know how else to explain this, he's not "secretly based" or is only doing this to appease leftoids, he likes this
>>741855127Lol you're right this game suffers from the same padding issues
Seriously feels like we're running out of time, we got two chapters left and there's a billion things to resolve
>>741855759He went underwater because he was going to say it completely seriously
>>741857181Literally all of the major characters flirted with one another extensively (and they still do in this chapter), he just pandered the most to the group who campaigned the loudest on social media. You're pretending otherwise because you belong to that psychotic deluded "community"
>>741857265Data miners show we're missing nothingNOSY PEOPLE make it impossible to have secrets
>>741857269Don't bother, you're talking to a fan(atic)
>>741856992nah, they definetely made it to the other side, probably passed out for 24 hours (skipping ch6) and wake up in ch7 completely glitched/corrupted at least that's what i want, with the town being covered by a dark world dome kinda shit because you weren't there to seal ch6 fountains, probably because of another titan being spawned and escaping man fuckin hire me to write the last two chapters for you toby at least it'll be less of a disappointment than what i bet you're planning
>>741841787can you post this garbage on /a/? this trans allegory story slop is not a video game
As an outside observer what the fuck is the controversy all about? Did Toby finally cross an arbitrary line of gay shit that you no longer accept?
Does anyone have that one Milhouse screencap where he's pushed to the end of his fucking rope because Lisa is sabotaging his fucking life for no reason?That's Susie in Chapter 5 for some reason.
>>741857269That's irrelevant to my point and I agree with you
could you at least look your father in the face before you send him to the evil ass rape shelter
>>741847802>>741845959>>741847169>>741847929>>741851498ARE YOU GUYS FINALLY?ARE YOU FINALLY?FINALLY WILLING TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON?LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION: DO YOU THINK EVEN THE WORST PERSON CAN CHANGE? DO YOU THINK THAT ANYONE CAN BE A GOOD PERSON, IF THEY JUST TRY?
>>741857389Should have threatened to kill him
>>741857038>>741856942>>741857003oh wait no you're right.>>741857357ERAM warned you that Noelle would be used up to get through the horned gate. Just hoped she would survived it. Nah she's dead. You tried to see too far.
>>741857331If there is truly no fakeout at ALL then I’m killing Toby & Crew Abubakar Shekau style
>>741857040>who got angry at Toriel a year agoDid your mom also bring home strangers she'd known for only 2 or 3 days at most?
>>741857284The way I see it, I think this chapter completely fucked up the stakes. I made this Shitty Graph to illustrate how I see it.
>>741857369People wanted a chapter as crazy as 4 again. The weird route was amazing as usual but the normal route feels like a step back to the point where people are incorporating it into "NPC" or prophecy theories as a form of damage control.
>>741856901So a net zero of nothing fucking happened.
>>741857264The literal opposite, dummy. Toby thinks it's wholesome and perfect. The actual writing is downright vile.
Since Chapter 5 sucked ass, I'm going to go back to my Shadow Mantle wife now
>Oh, you want the schizoboss weapons?>Go backtrack and find another 9 coinsFuck off TobyNot finishing this chapter cause im off on holiday tomorrow so I guess I'm not seeing the final boss for a few weeks because I don't have the time to scour the entire fucking level for the fucking coins
>>741857397If I say yes could you please update the game to skip the lake cutscene on normal mode thanks.
>>741857431man i keep forgetting about sword route text, ERAM is so bullshit for me that i block the entire route out of my head
It feels like a random person was kidnapped and not AsgoreLike, Susie just completely disregards it feels like
>>741855591Being Kris is suffering.
>>741857331Like what?
>>741841787What the fuck is that
>>741857325Anon, there's a difference between a joke scene of you flirting with enemies, Ralsei hugging Susie because he's very friendly, Kris saying Ralsei is cute, and then having Noelle get wet from talking about Susie bullying her. He planned it from the start, and chapter two made it obvious with the Noelle room scene. You simply dislike it so you refused to see what was there. I dislike it as well but I'm not stupid enough to not see it was always going to happen.
>>741851887>>741851863the prophecy/fate is FORCING ralsei to be an out-of-character jealous little bitch, it's trying to get him to burn the place down>the vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousyflowery's major point is that ralsei & co. could easily stop the nonsense by just... closing mycastletown. close mycastletown and the whole nonsense would be over.
>>741857450It's the opposite with these guys. It's always "I grew up in a perfectly normal household I don't know why you guys with drunken neglectful parents are so angry."
>>741857068I mean, headspace also has vastly different themed locations, that just like DR, have influence of real things/pop culture and etc. But I do agree that have the actual characters experience it is more interesting than creating puppets versions.
>>741857535But KRIS! I .. i mean WE need to aks NOELLE to join us NOW!
>>741842147He made lesbian enabling a mandatory part of the good ending in undertale. Him and undertale was always trash.
>>741857437He's in Japan so try to be creative about it
>>741857039Darkners are for (You). It is (You)town after all.Mew Mew can come too.
>>741857485Ah, damn, my bad. Thanks for clarifying.
>>741857450"strangers" and it's sans undertale
>Chapter 3 and 4 I was pissed of at Kris for kicking ME and being an ass>Chaoter 5 comes out and I now feel bad for the guyIs there really nothing we can do? Should I help the knight now?
>>741853334either unbelievably shitty writing or writing so good it fooled everyonei think the latter is cope and it's really just shit writing
Reminder that Papyrus imaginary friend is Flowery
>>741857369It's not even that. People is more upset about the ship in question than the fact that it is yuri.
>>741857397Is this referring to Kris or Susie, I honestly can't even tell anymore.
>>741857569You're cherry picking, there isn't a difference in the overall impression chapters 1-4 gave, in those chapters he threw every possible ship in with no consistency to pander to everyone. I can't bring up examples because I don't care enough about this dead nigger baby of a game to remember specifics
>>741857684>"strangers" and it's sans undertaleSans arrived in town just three days ago. Toriel has spoken to him a couple of times. To her, he's a stranger.
I like how all the characters just gloss over the fact another Lightner was in the Dark World.
>>741857369It's a combo of Krusie taking a massive hit and this chapter not adhering to what they thought should happen in a ch5
>>741857760>Toriel has spoken to him a couple of timesHaha, yeah "spoken"
Kris I know your Dad and the police chief got kidnapped and maybe are being killed but I think we should make a room for Noelle and invite her to hang out
>>741853037I wouldn't fucking know. I voted for Berdly and King and Kris as Queen.
>>741857760yet you get angry even though you yourself know him for more than 3 days, even 3 years
>>741841847Honestly I find this scene in the diner to be very un-toby and far worse. Just felt like weird pandering.
>>741857813>Kris, the cyrptofascist
damn bitch fuck you looking crazy for
>>741857736sans, dumbass. he's manning the goner onionsan food koisk in the famitsu cover.
>>741857818You're not even making an argument here you're just going "but YOU know who Sans undertale is". That doesn't mean I want him to fuck anybody's mom.
>>741841787>No weird route content>No sword route content>No plot progression>More shipping slop>Secret boss is a rehashed character with no personality Genuinely, why bother with this? I only played this game for the Weird Route and I got, what, 20 minutes of content? And a middle finger saying "Fuck you, come back in 5 years". In 5 years I probably won't care enough about Deltarune to bother. Why Toby.And to add insult to injury you cannot fight any of the stupid flower darkners. If you try killing them, they just heal to max. If you try killing the main boss, your own party heals him. You need to do the stupid pacifist gimmicks instead of getting ludokino.
>>741857569You're right. That anon is mixing up his shipping headcanon with what's actually written. Everything else was still borderline "friends" stuff but the Susie and Noelle shit was a blatant romantic subplot.
>>741842147there was one on the dev team before undertale came out btw
>>741856414Vecna is behind all this, the REAL Chapter 5 isn't out yet.
>>741856986she also says she hates hometown to susie and that she wanted to leave, but she tells her that maybe it can be ok if she's with her or some gay shit like that i'm paraphrasingsetup for her to accept going into the closet btw
>>741853037WEIRD CHUDS have to wait two years just to get losers by gaster
>>741857861This is the hottest Noelle has ever been.
>>741857954ESL twitter tranny... Real winning combo.
>>741857861Fun.
>>741857905>no weird route contentThey drown
>>741857331Well? What did the dataminers show?
So is Ralsei trans or not?
>>741857861Having the overworld sprites visibly emote would be too "on the nose"
>>741857968>noelle repeatedly screaming at kris to pull her under while the entire game window glitches out and screeches at you
>>741855659If it will ever lead to any major shift in the narrative, it hasn't occurred yet. If you're looking for results other than flavor text, you can wait for further chapters and lurk in threads incase discoveries are made.
>>741858054Nobody cares about this shit. Masturbate to a darkner (You) like instead.
>>741857904my point is there no reason for YOU to get angry and spam these threads dailyKris being upset is ok
>>741858056I'm sure you mean in the specific context of Noelle looking stark raving mad.But I'm also pretty sure she does have a crazy looking overworld sprite and she did emote in the thorn scene.
Where does Toby live so I can send him some cream for his anal pain
>>741856851What the fuck are you talking about? there are several times where Susie is about to say something but changes the idea. She interacts with flowery outside of Kris and DOESNT tell him about the code for the shelter. Susie CLEARLY suspects Kris and this is why she literally doesn't say anything in the chapter. It felt jarring because it was jarring. There's something clearly going on with Susie
>>741853965You joke.But in the files for Deltarune is a .ogg called "inukuma"since this update.Why not find it for yourself and...take a listen? Puhuhuhu...
>>741857838>Just felt like weird pandering.You just noticed huh
>>741857838Completely pointless scene
>>741857369Yeah this was too gay I didn't like the blue flower either it was supposed to be a girlI didn't like how the flower king fountain was made in broad daylight, making the whole adventure just feel artificial to waste time
>>741858054Flowery is actually intensely homophobic and was just calling Ralsei a little sissy faggot.
>>741858093I think it's alright for someone to get emotionally affected by a story and recognize the evils its portraying and you're a faggot for simply saying, "nuh-uh you're not allowed".Toriel being called a whore really gets you right in your funny bone huh, you raped bitch.
>>741854369Matpat was and still is a huge nigger.
>>741858182all those "interactions" are pointless
>>741858014What we got was great but it's not enough. 20 minutes of content for a year of waiting. Grim. Why bother at this point? I bet CH7 will be some meta horseshit with LE DING GASTER instead of noelle and Kris going on a rampage. Disappointing.
>>741858054Flowery called him a fag
>>741858126That's also kinda stupidIf it was me I would have flowery just tell them both abiut the code when he's dying and no shady shite afterwardsIt would make it so that you actually made progress after all the stalling
>>741858231???
deltarune will be either the greatest story told or a fucking disaster. And now the worst. Chapter 5 ONLY raised new questions, so we are going to be have 2 years of schizotheories again
>>741857838>clearly a girl>but uh what if you didn't know siiiigh
>>741858310Yeah, fucking choke on it.
Overswung Susie won
>>741858308but anon we have to show that kris is working for le knight for the millionth time in case you forgot
What the fuck was this chapter?The start of the normal route?Decent, nice to turn it into a platform, had some fun to decent moments.But fuck, everything else was so fucking lame>GUYS REMEMBER THE FLOWERS THAT HAVE THE SAME COLORS IN UNDERTALE?!?!>NOW THEY ARE ALIVE WITH THE SAME WEAPONS AND THEY THINK THEY ARE HUMANS!Why?Why do the flowers think they are humans?This is the type of extremely derivative shit you'd see a fangame have, even Undertale Yellow did it way better with Clover.And what the fuck is with Blue?Just straight up a fucking faggot?No gimmick?No funny bit?Just "here's a faggot"?Blue was gayer than seeing Susie and Noelle go on a date together and professing how much they like each other, even before he was flirting with Yellow.And what the fuck was that weird route bit?>lol skip to chapter 7 in 20 yearsAre you retarded?And nothing else changes?You want me to replay that shit a second time just so I can do the same things beat by beat?Are they holding Toby at gunpoint?Bitch, Chapter 4's entire Darkworld was already us waiting to see the continuation of the weird route, you give us the breadcrumbs of us raping the doe then OH AN ENTIRE FUCKING CHAPTER OF NOT SEEING WHERE THAT GOES and fine, okay, sure, it's nuanced, can't only focus on Noelle getting brainfucked, obviously, there's more to the story.But Chapter 5 is nothing?We just either kill the kids and you tell us to wait 10-20 more years for Chapter 7.Or you tell us "okay you won't see how this goes, play the game normally now".Damn dude, first Digital Circus being shittier than usual, now this... I get disappointed even when I expect nothing.
>>741857838F A T I G U E
>>741858126This makes sense. Susie staying at Castle Town means she's talking with Ralsei for hours outside of Kris' supervision. Who knows what they're up to?
>>741858316Nah it's already fucked. I doubt he's gonna be able to pull the stakes back up in a good way and STILL have time for a great ending.
>>741858316Deltarune is already far away from being any close to be flawless, and much less of being the best story told, even if the ending was genuinely good.
Why doesn't Kris take a night in the Dark World like Susie does? Is he retarded?
>>741858560He's got things to do other than be a fat chud and eat imaginary food that doesn't actually fill your stomach.
>>741858449>Why?>Why do the flowers think they are humans?Flowers are life darkners which are more sophisticated than object darkners. That's it.
>>741858560He needs ME to stay in the dark world and he cannot sleep with me inside of him
Why are /v/hildren trying so hard to be cool hip and edgy by going for alternate routes first and then spamming about them online?None of these future diddlers have even beaten MewMew or got back to Castle Town lol
>>741858449>Why?>Why do the flowers think they are humans?Because Asgore needs a human.
>>741854425it actually did, toby's just the vaguepost king. the justice flower represents the knight. the knight kidnaps asgore right after his "nobody actually blames me for what happened" speech for a reason.
this mew mew fight is kinda long and a pain in the ass to grind, it's also very good mechanically but it's doesn't feel like it fits
>>741858616>Future diddlers>/v/hildren (implying he's not from /v/)It's like the pot calling the kettle a nigger with these sharteens.
>>741858616>see one fag online post spoilers>immediately blame some boogeyman you've created in your headSocial media was a mistake.
>>741858532ch6 is going to have to be a 2 in 1 for it to be good again, need an 8 hour chapter not 4
>>741855127I'm somewhat convinced the entire idea of the Weird Route and Shadow Crystals were added to the plan last minute to try to make the game less like Omori
>>741853676>grasping at strawmen to voice any negativity on a flawless chapter
>>741858426If I mod the chapter it's one of the first things to goFlowery will tell them both himself
>>741854425I think the Knight should have a massive ass.
>>741858695>8 hourPlease, no. It's not my fault the pacing is all fucked up, I already think some chapters are way too long
>>741858660The secret boss is fucking garbage, actually.Every secret boss we've had so far was about gaining freedom from the world itself, but Mew Mew? No, she's just struggling with two people in one body (LIKE THE SOUL AND KRIS, GET IT??? GET IT???).And the fight itself is also shit, since you can't just become better at it. Those bomb patterns aren't fixed, so you need to rely on some extreme levels of reaction speed.After five attempts I just stopped giving a shit and opened cheat engine. I think this is the first game outside of RPG Maker games I've ever used cheat engine on.
>>741858764NOW we're talking!
>>741854425except that ch4 without the knight would be another nothing burger, the cunt showing up at the end of ch5 was the biggest load of shit ever, just happens to open another fountain at the exact moment you close it
>>741857331And that's good so people don't waste their fucking time.I love data miners, because all I get when they mine data is either>I want to play the game and explore the shit myselfThen Data Miners simply let me know if I missed something after I've done my own run, they set the sign post so I can explore on my own or>I played the game and I want to see all the minute shit I missedAnd then I either just look up the information going "Oh, cool!" or I can watch someone else play it that goes by that knowledge.
>>741858743Yea the threads are going be filled with those types until like a week when people who have jobs played the chapter
>>741857117I'm not allowed to be shocked and sad? Ey fuck you.That being said, the weird route can't be the only way to break the prophecy. Not going all the way. Denial stage bear with me.
>>741855031>for freeWhy do we hate this guy again?
>>741841787Wow, OP. Game for mentally ill people has mentally ill artwork on full display?Color me shocked!
>>741858262tbqh Toby set the bar too high with ch2 weird route. There were substantial gameplay differences like having to freeze everything and alternate fights with Berdly and Spamton. The exclusive cutscenes are still cool, but nothing is going to hit the same as that initial shock of ch2.
>>741857003>the game snaps back into a sort of corrupted normal route where its strongly implied that it happened for real but got rollback'd by the game simulation or somethingNo, that's the aborted weird route. You need to keep pressing PROCEED even when the screen turns white. Then it ends with footage of a CRT tv with text saying "TO BE CONTINUED IN CHAPTER 7 SIDE B".
>>741858996We hate you because youre a retarded hack
>>741859032I want to violently fuck this thing
>>741858996Becaues he somehow managed to make accidentally good enough writing to make me enjoy the game just so he could ruin everything.
>>741857968I beg to differ
>>741859032kid kris is such a little cutie.
>>741859145You sound pissbaby butthurt, wanna vent about it?
>>741859174
>>741859032toby implementing cunny is our saving grace
>>741858996Stalling. I want to go on a quest. Fountains being made to stall for time are the exact opposite of a quest. This doesn't feel like the great Epic Prophecy if the Heroes aren't proactive at all in achieving their goals.
>>741859229The chapter was dogshit, shrimple as. Susie and Noelle were completely obliterated as characters, Ralsei is now a tranny, and the whole plot was completely ignored in favor of some dumbass filler.
>>741859295>Ralsei is now a trannyexplain
>aborted WR Kris
>>741856610>noelle urging kris to keep holding onto her hands and saying "proceed", asking if he can still hear her, is more cosmically beautiful than the yuri slop being dished out in the normal routeReal.
>>741858809Did it first try, sounds like skill issue.The foreshadowing is Kris will be alone and only be able to rely on you
>>7418593252026 and people still don't know what a PrtScn is
>>741859325Who’s the one who knows?
>>741859295I can't believe none of you fuckers expected this. Look at his base and think about how he can please them. "Normal" people aren't huge deltarune or undetrale fans, teenagers and eternal-teenagers embroiled in gender and sexuality politics are.
>>741855142>>741855704As much as it sounds like Krusiefag cope, something's REALLY wrong with Susie. The rough n' tough girl suddenly wearing ribbons, dismissing her bestie, not giving a fuck about the videogame UI meta shit, and asking NOELLE of all people to assist in a life-or-death mission when she's NEVER seen Noelle fight before? I'm not even a shipper, but what the fuck's happening? I knew Suselle was going to be a thing but I thought Noelle would be Susie's rock when her faith in her gang gets shattered, not whatever...this is. This is not our fate defying lizard girl.
Mew Mew's actual boss theme was 10x better than this onehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn4vBLkrhro
>>741857804Asgore gets kidnapped too?
>>741858126to add to this, i found it a bit weird that they bothered to show us how she was preparing to greet noelle in castletown during the credits. I don't know it just feel like a red herring "Yeah silly susie is just prepping for her new gf nothing to see here"
>>741859404I am a fan for the porn potential
>>741859323There was a whole fucking thing where flowery went>wow i bet you wanted the pink and blue stuff huh>here it is, princess :)
>>741859359>Did it first try, sounds like skill issue.>man who has played video games all his life shocked to find out that people who have other hobbies aren't as good as him
has anyone tried to go back to the secret boss room? it's a dissappearing room
Theory: Chapter 6 weird route is skipped because it's a Noelle centric story that couldn't possibly happen if she wasn't around
>>741859469So are they, their taste in porn is just more degenerate than yours. They want zippertits lesbians loudly validating their political ideology while scissoring.
>>741859404I expected the bare minimum of good writing because so far it HAD been good.
>>741859482Anon. Blue = Kris and pink = Susie.
>>741859482Tranny colors include white as well, not just blue and pink and ralsei isn't saying "don't call me prince"You're retarded
>>741859325Better pic courtesy of /doe/
>>741859434>Toby Fox accidentally became George Lucas and route a circular story thinking it'd be really narratively wise to undo everything that happened in chapter 1 in a later episode.
>>741859325
>>741859527hospital dark world confirmed
>>741859560>>741859563See, now, those are reasonable views and you could be very well right, but that would mean expecting quality from Tobert, who has proven he has no actual principles other than "MOAR GAY SHIT!!!!!"
today I will remind them
>>741855648SHITTER'S FULL
>>741859521hot i would drown with her
>>741859521Not gonna lie, seeing Noelle like that did things to my heart (and dick). I used to be all in on the Kris and Susie train, but I'm considering switching to the Kris and Noelle train now.
>>741858660This secret boss definitely felt easier than ch3 and 4 secret bosses. Mostly because I can actually just tank the whole fight and spam green teas and revives the whole way through. So on the same level as Spamtom NEO, maybe a bit harder due to the difficulty in the attack patterns.
>>741859671So noelles the one who forced kris
>>741858234Agreed.
why are people hating on the new chapter
>>741857761huh? who?
>>741859569Ayo, Noelle marriage???
>virgin flowey "kill or be killed">CHAD Flowery "Power of Friendship"I kneel, tobias
>>741859659I'd have agreed with you if the drink was white-colored as well and if Flowery wasn't a bishonen protagonist who uses "Princess" as some sort of corporate slogan throughout the chapter
>>741859701Well, you didn't kill her, right?You didn't...
this nigga zestythis nigga sweet as a sugar plum
>>741859496>man with skill issue seethes when told he has a skill issue
>>741859696many are saying this
>>741858449I get the sense one of Toby's team members [READ: GIGI] is investing substantial amounts of energy into manipulating Toby so he makes the game more aggressively homosexual then it already was
>>741859801Is he he looks pretty stacked
>>741859617Dude what if Noelle has to chpse between staying in the hospital dark world where her father is alive and healthy or being with suzie. So you seal the fountain and then Rudy just dies
>>741841787Xhe is so beautiful and gender affirming...
>>741858764Agreed.
>>741859894It's not enough.
>>741859879Someone should make Blue a girl
>>741858308>I would have flowery just tell them both abiut the codeanon, kris and ralsei are the VILLAINS and flowery is a genuinely good guy. he wanted susie to get the code without kris finding out.
>>741859439Yes it's very hard to miss
>>741859402The nose knows.
>>741859951Fuck that shit the soul is Kris the thing that does the bad things is something else
>>741857818So what retarded? We're talking about the character's perspective, not mine.
>>741858585They could be monsters, why do they think they're humans?>>741858630But why?
>>741844689>mettaton has been a character for over a decadeyeah and i killed himi cant kill the faggot here
>>741859434I sincerely think it's just badly written forced pandering
>>741859496I assume people on the video game board can play video games
>>741859826The problem is, you can't really train your reaction speed to be as good as the game requires it in a reasonable amount of time.All the other bosses had patterns you could bruteforce if you're bad at video games.
>>741860013None of this light Yagami shite I hated death note because most of the interactions felt fake
>>741859751The secret boss.
>>741860043The previous secret bosses had reasonable patterns thoughbeit
>>741860053Also if you didn't get the Mannequin from ALL THE WAY BACK AT Chapter 2 you will have a much tougher time. Seam even tells you that you should have the Mannequin
>>741859929How big do you want her, anon?
>>741860112None of these fanarts get even 10% of the way to the majesty of this sprite. Whoever drew it needs an internet.
>>741860130So does this one.It's the second hardest fight in the game but not that bad.
>>741860183Still not enough. And give source and original image.
>>741859434>Susie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r0D6ZI6MFY
>>741859434>I'm not even a shipper, but what the fuck's happening?THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE IS SEEING THISSusie didn't just mellow out, her entire fucking personality suddenly just... changed from one thing to another without any real time period having passed.Noelle liking Susie I can get, but Susie liking her back? Despite having had no real relationships her entire life? What the fuck?
>>741860261>>741860183Jangleforks>>741859894secretgooble (since deleted)
Is the game really just going to be vagueposting until chapter 7?If that's the case, then I rather just wait until the game is finished.
>>741860296Toby fox sacrificed good writing to pander to his gay audience
>>741860150...what mannequin? Seam said what? You better be troilling nigga
>>741860330I don't think it will ever be enough. Time to headhack Knight blob avatar for VRChat
>I was bullying you over Noelle >Did not give a single shit about Noelle at the timeHer memories are literally brokenShe's hearing and remembering shit that didn't happen
>>741860391I really really really hope we're getting a reality check about how toxic Noelle's obsession with Susie is, but after seeing this chapter? I don't think it's happening.
>>741860407The one from the room right after Noelle joins your party near one of the Addisons
>>741860124dude, that's the doll thats on top of the trashcan at the festival.
>>741860459It’s just a bad retcon
>>741860468or at least I think, it's during the Noelle segment and I CBA to play thru Ch2 again
>>741860468If only chapter 2 didn't release nearly five years agoMaybe then I'd've remembered
>>741860186wait hold on
>>741860408Fun.
>>741860186sure but it's hot
>>741857947kek
>>741860296>her entire fucking personality suddenly just... changed from one thing to another without any real time period having passedI don't think she tanked that final prophecy nearly as well as people seem to think she did. No shit it's out of character for her to forget about the dark world stuff and focus so much on a date and fall so hard for noelle she's coping horribly with it and looking for fucking anything to get her mind off of what she saw.
>>741860631So...no final prophecyAgainFuck this vagueposter fuck the player deserved to know
>>741860631Has Toby literally ever stacked up to the nuances people assign to him? It seems like his entire fanbase is made up of people who desperately overthink very simple writing.
>>741860631>and focus so much on a date and fall so hard for noelle she's coping horribly with it and looking for fucking anything to get her mind off of what she saw.See, this sounds perfectly reasonable. But we both know woke ideology is anything but. And considering this chapter, I'm beginning to suspect Toby might have fallen victim to it.You will clap and cheer for the (obviously toxic) lesbian couple. Failing to do so will result in you being labeled a bigot.
>>741857838>Plays games for gay furries>NOOOOOOOOOOO WHY IS THERE TRANNY SHIT HERElol, lmao
>>741849553>Why does the superboss have no connection to any shadow crystal or "freedom", unlike all the others?We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had leitmotifs, we had purpose, we had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork! You could have shut your mouth, listened and shitposted as you ever needed! It was perfect! But no! You just had to blow it up! You, and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the overbearing conspiracy theorist! If you'd played the game, known your place, we'd all be fine right now!
>>741860746>nuancesmy nigger she is sleeping in a broom closet
>>741860507did you not read her dialogue? the lightner is a ghost monster who possessed the darkner doll, she literally says she's a lightner
>>741859569i'm starting to think that maybe kris and noelle both wanted to escape hometown together at some point, maybe their attempt is exactly what caused to dessapearance
Gotta get my avatar in before the thread archives
>>741860863>kris and noelle both wanted to escape hometown together at some pointI'm pretty sure Catty was part of it as well
>>741860507did you have your eyes closed the entire fight?
>>741860826And doesn't answer my question either. Is there any actual reason people have the faith in him they do? No, Alphys wasn't a deep character. None of the Undertale characters were. So far, as far as I can tell, none of the Deltarune characters were very deep either. He wrote in yuri because he likes yuri, and he wrote them madly in love because he likes yuri. Everything else seems like people assigning gravitas to a writer who has never been deep.
>>741860853huh, ngl i was too busy praying to the virgin mary and the holy spirit for hel to notice that. so the ghost is a literal one, not just some bipolar bs? fuck does that imply for her?
>>741861084mad dummy ghost possessed a figurine, wtf does this entail regarding ASGORE?
I'm conflicted. It's obvious that either Noelle or Susie will go insane in Ch6 and Suselle definitely won't happen but also from the way it's portrayed the game wants you to think the wholesome lesbian relationship is good and you should be happy for themThe "tragedy" the game is setting up for Ch6 will be a good outcome for me, and probably most people here
>>741861084it's literally mad dummy
>>741861035>He wrote in yuri because he likes yuriWell no fucking shit. A relationship between characters can have broader implications on the story than just being what the author goons to, even if it is indeed what the author goons to. Susie is obviously framed as going delusional with escapism and the thing with Noelle is a part of it.
>>741861247>Suselle definitely won't happenlol
>>741861247[Angel's Heaven] is coming
>>741859894>>741860183>>741860330>>741860565Here's what I >>741860408 promisedThank god I got some fuckbuddies to use this with
>>741861084Maddie possessed the figurine, which then developed a consciousness of its own when the dark world was formed. The whole fight is Maddie and Pink struggling to accept each other.
>>741861247>the game wants you to think the wholesome lesbian relationship is good and you should be happy for themI'm seriously worried about people actually thinking this The world truly has gone insane
>>741861265Or, get this, just like the yuri relationship in Undertale, he just likes people that act like that.
>shelter code is Undertale's release date>the knight has been kidnapping Undertale bosses and went after Torielfuck the Underground is just a dark world isn't it? That's why Sans won't let us see Papyrus. fuck.
>>741861430Then why don't they have their Dark World colors in Undertale
>>741861417>he just likes people that act like thatYes! He does!! You're very smart for figuring that out after I said it the last time!!!now why does that invalidate susie going cocoo for coacoa puffs in general and also about noelle
>>741861343Excellent work, any videos of it in motion?
>>741860746Less simple writing, more vagueposting all the fucking time.
>>741861430So how is Susie able to memorize this oneRetarded writers forgot
>>741861531I literally just cobbled this together. No guarantees on vids since I record my VRC porn for myself but I might post a pic next thread with a cross-thread link. Also I'm hard af rn from this
>>741861430Asgore looks like his UT counterpart in the dark world, there might be something to it. Maybe this is the magic barrier it was talked about? All monsters banished to the dark world, a really powerful one, requiring more than one human SOUL to seal its fountain?
>>741861598I'll keep my eye out for you.
>>741861548Well yeah, he gets engagement because people actually just love stories delivered as a series of hints for some fucking reason. Like, look at this thread. It's a schizobaord covered in string. Toby lets the fanbase do all of the work. It's a brilliant strategy really, like farming the 90iq for hype.
>>741861658its not a fountain its a barrier
Roaring Knight > Spamton > Gerson > Eram > Jevil >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Onion San's desecrated corpse >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mew Mew
>>741861771Tragically so
Why didn't asriel come to town in the last second despite it being teased since 2018? I starting to think that asriel either won't show up whatsoever without a given reason or we're going to find out he's fucking dead (somehow)
>>741861247>from the way it's portrayed the game wants you to think the wholesome lesbian relationship is good and you should be happy for themDid we play the same game?
