I think I will just play the remake then, god damn. The original is the worst looking video game ever made.
>>741843076understandablebeing born after 2007 automatically means you have zero taste
>>741843076You aren't allowed to play Remake before having played OG, watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core
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>>741843160as opposed to being born in 2008 onward which means you can discern old trash
>>741843195>you need to play all this outdated shit before you are allowed to experience something goodOh, I see, that's why younger people hate old faggot.s
>>741843412Sorry but Remake expects you to have knowledge of the original and the Advent Children and CC. For example when the Sector 7 plate falls there's suddenly an animate cat toy appearing and going NOOOOOOOO. If your only experience is the remake, you have no idea what it's about (It's Shinra exec Reeve's Cait Sith you only really meet first time in Gold Saucer)
>>741843076You already posted this >>741823840
i like how it looks. the weird shitty geometry of the 3d sprites, the crappy water, shiva's tits, very anime aesthetic trying not to be
>>741843379yes we all see your impairment shining through right now, alphoid. you don't have to continue embarrassing yourself.
>>741843628>very anime aesthetic trying not to beWrong. FF7 was THE anime game of 90s. You can see it from the cyberpunk designs, Cloud's and others' hair, the mannerisms and writing. Compare Akira the manga/anime and FF7 and you see.
I wonder of the recent game enjoyers are those that dont have internal thought power.Not to make it sound mean but maybe they dont have any sort of imagination inside their head.Everything is narrated now too, like you would imagine stuff in your head back then.You walk hours on the world map and nobody constantly talks. FF6 was 2d and you gotta fill in even more blanks "graphic wise".
Did you do the regen + open the disc lid trick?
>>741843867No, after getting Tiny Bronco I went to Mideel area and landed on the beach to power level with disc 2 enemies.
I'm glad that old kino is gatekept by the fact that Zoomers have no imagination or selflessness and can't play something unless it's photo realistic or their ecleb plays it
>>741843867Uhh the what now?I did the thingy were you auto phoenix yourself and spam knight of round. So basically you can't die.I love how in the past games would allow you to do weird game breaking things if you so desire. Much more sterile and stale nowadays. Elder Scroll games are another example.
>>741843973If you didn't know, you can open teh disc lid in battle during having Regen on your character and the battle pauses but regen fills your healthAnd no, youa re not supposed to use KoTR and Phoenix and Final Attack. You beat Emerald Weapon and Ruby Weapon faster with Cloud-Cid-Barret and using multihits, multi counter attacks and their multihit limit breaks. Learn to play.
>>741843973FF7 had such late game methods for getting overpowered, spent at least a summer grinding all the materia in Mideelif you have a regen effect, and have ATB set to -whatever- you'll cast it, press the playstations disc open, the regen will keep going until the lid closed. don't think it works in "active" type
>og FF7 has a unique classic style of pre-rendered background and quirky polygon character models>FF7 Remake looks like 99% of other games made in the past 5 years (same engine, same graphics assets)Zoomers just want the same shit over and over.
>>741844276Uh the devs commented how NES-SNES-PS era style and execution were result of limitations. If they had the today's tech, they would have made the games look like modern day sterile AAA games. They even jabbed at modern indies trying to recreate the limited results of 90s how it was never their vision or goal but simply the that era's tech limitations.
>>741844419>Uh the devs commented how NES-SNES-PS era style and execution were result of limitationSo what? Art from adversity is a thing you fucking retard.> If they had the today's tech, they would have made the games look like modern day sterile AAA games. Irrelevant. We are discussing why OP is being a faggot and not playing the superior original version. Classic cars are much better than modern cars, but year Dodge would have made those cars with modern tech if they had it back then too, doesn't change the fact that that's not the way it worked out and modern cars are shit and classics are still great.
>>741844683I like both OG and remakes
>>741843412No, you don't need all that. Just play Remake or OG first it's up to you.
>>741844683>modern cars are shit and classics are still great.Lmao unc
>>741843076Looks fine to me. Skill issue.
>>741843076I'm sure that will change by tomorrow.
>>741844419>washed up SE developers who did nothing for 25 years defend the commercial decision making that keeps 98% of the people they know personally employedwaow
>>741843508>Sorry but Remake expects you to have knowledge of the original and the Advent Children and CC.I played nothing but the trilogy and I understand everything actually.>>741843076Don't listen to boomers, they ruined the world.
>>741843412Playing an original before a remake is just common sense. Even if it's "outdated" it gives you the context you need.If you think playing a remake on its own means you've experienced a game and are equipped to discuss it, you're incorrect. It's the same as not playing the game at all.
You can just say you have no taste
>>741845217>Lmao uncYeah, it's great that you are paying $70k for huge ipad screens that all over the dashboard.
>>741845301>I played nothing but the trilogy and I understand everything actually.This is a hilarious statement, because how would you know? You literally do not know what you are missing.
>>741845301Ok. In OG when Aerith gets captured and is taken to Shinra HQ, Hojo plans to have RedXIII mate with Aerith to create offspring. In Remake it is changed to Hojo planning to use G and S type Soldiers to run train on Aerith to create offspring.What are the S and G type Soldiers?
>>741844419Seriously, people that praise some old ass game like it meant something are fucked in the head. You are the byproduct of a generation raised on products. You invented the meme of soul, because you're just that retarded and lack that much self awareness. Zoomers, Alphas, they're going to surpass you by virture of not being as old as dirt as you.
>>741845183One of the good ones.
>>741845217Enjoy not being able to turn your car on because an update didn't download correctly or you said nigger or you didn't watch an ad or something
>>741845273Depends, there's so many games to play I might not play either version of the same game.
>>741845483You need to work on your bait. It's too obvious that you are trying to sound like a retard.
>>741845301>Don't listen to boomers, they ruined the world.They sure fucking did, they're actually tracking down nuclear physicists right now and executing them because free energy belongs to only corporations that will not use it.
>>741843076I will play neither, but fap to remake porn. And I'll do the same with Resident Evil
>>741845572You have already missed having played the OG on release. You have already missed having played Remake and Rebirth on release. Now you going to miss playing Revelation on release.
>>741843076https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3118368057
the steam version looks a bit better than the original on ps1plus there's mods
>>741845601Oh fuck, oh fuck man
>>741843076I think not being able to enjoy something from before your time is a sign of retardation.I'm not saying you have to praise them, but not being able to enjoy them at all and just going "ew, it's old" is 100% a sign of a low fucking IQ.And it's no good calling me an unc or whatever, because this is also true when it's people from my generation doing it in relation to things that are before my time.
What does the Lifestream even do?
>>741846001Hey man, how's your day?
>>741846001It used to let you stream footage to others but it's been dead for a long time
>>741846001
>>741846105bretty gud, just talked to my recruiter earlier today for a new job i'm starting in July
>>741843515>Unc's janny application got rejectedLMAO
>>741846272Damn, did I miss Tuesday entirely? I gotta pick up the pace
>>741845973>I think not being able to enjoy something from before your time is a sign of retardation.I think it's a sign of being normal, to each their own, retard.
>>741845301>I played nothing but the trilogyThese faggots are already calling it The Trilogy and game 3 isn't out yet. There is only 1 Trilogy by the way and it sure as fuck isn't this Yidsney pastiche Nomura infused closeted homosexual dogshit.
>>741846001>Lifestreamfuck off, schizo
>>741846676>The Trilogyit's a trilogy, even when boomies experienced it they couldn't without putting in the discs, this is common knowledge
>>741845483Dumb take, the praise for old games is why you even got a remake in the first place. Same with the upcoming Ocarina of Time remake.
>>741846710Now I admire Jenova, I do
>>741846824lol FF7 was remade because it was the highest selling one, you fucking retarded boomer.
>>741843076What's wrong with it?
>>741847276It's the ugliest fucking game ever made, Wind Waker is ugly, but FF7 takes it to the very next level.
>>741847052Being the highest selling isn't enough. FF7 has managed to keep a hold on the public zeitgeist long enough to bear children before Remake 1 was ever a thing.
>>741843076Speaking as someone who played this in the 90's, you're not wrong. It's a big reason why a lot of us wanted a true remake with updated visuals/sound and QoL.There's going to be a few nutter 40+ year olds acting dumb because aging Final Fantasy super fans are fucking crazy, don't think too much of them. Final Fantasy is a cool series, its super fans not so much.
I don't hate the Remake series. I just that it either overcomplicates basic shit or sands off the edges of uncomfortable shit
>>741843076i guess i'm old despite being a zillenial for thinkingthe lego models as charming
>>741843076You will have to endure tons of useless cutscenes then. And the annoying chore of having your eyes glued to the HP bars rather than the cool action because you don't have the auto cure materia yet.
>>741848631>eyes glued to the HP barsOoof. I've heard americans are really bad at things like that because they are not used to subtitles when watching movies and series. I live in a country where instead of dubbing we subtitle foreign media so we can read the subtitles while still looking at the action. It's easy.
>>741848339It has way better combat.
>>741847456what are you smoking? ff7 is a beautiful game
both are dogshit. dont bother. its just gay weebshit for lgbt tumblrinas
>>741848834Not him but I'm going to have to disagree.FF7's combat is boring and inoffensive, while Remake's engaging but offensively bad.The reality is that Final Fantasy as a franchise has never had the best or even above-average gameplay for whatever genre or mechanics it has ever set out to do. It's the definitive middle of the road, and VII itself is the definitive moviegame. Shitty, unbalanced action combat that can't go two minutes without a fucking five minute cutscene spliced in doesn't change that, especially when half the time spent in "action" is actually on a goddamn bullet time pause menu.
>>741849035You are not wrong. FF's action combat was never meant to be Fromslops, but I don't play enough action to know what's good and bad, really, and I think Remake is very fun and engaging to me.And turn-based RPG is, they're all the same to me anyway, they never present serious challenges.
>>741849263>they never present serious challenges.FFX battle arena is fantasticthat being said, imposing limits on how you play turn-based games can also present very interesting challenges. i enjoyed my minimum level ff7 playthrough immensely.
no spheregrid FFX is also very interestingmost enemies have fixed attack patterns, and figuring out every advantage you have to overcome the game is not easy
>>741849445I personally don't do "challenges", but more of play styles.I hoard items, steal on every enemies, and equip cure materia to every character.
>>741849947You don't need cure materia on every character. Enemy Skill materia takes one slot and you end up getting 3 of Enemy Skill materias and you can have White Wind on all of them. W-Item lets you duplicate Megalixirs to infinity and using items requires no materia slot.Get good.
>>741845714You misunderstand what better is. Your definition of better is ruinous, it's not better it's worse and degraded.
>>741845714the mouths are an instant no in my book
Early 3D was fucking ghastly indeed but at least they improved it by the end of PSX's lifespan. Some titles like Koudelka looked nice even.FFVII is just especially shitty somehow.
>>741850042you wouldn't know this without a guide.
>>741850042I benched my Enemy Skill materias and only use them when I am about to learn a new skill.Because they don't grow with AP and I'd rather grow materias that do.
>>741846671Normal people tend to be retarded
>>741845714Steam is bottom, right?Looks a lot worse.
>>741850578enemy skill makes a minimum level game possibleit completely makes up for not being able to level materia
>>741843076When I saw how they butchered Tifa's design I did the opposite.Played the original and will never touch the new shit
>>741847797It's because it's the most popular that it's the highest selling you stupido. Only games that sold well are remade, meaning the games that need remakes the least.
>>741843076Correct. The game looked terrible even at the time of release. FF8 is insane leap in graphics from this mess
>>741847979I thought it looked good at the time and there's no reason for me to change my mind now.The characters are obviously blocky abominations, but that doesn't mean they look bad. It's charming.A lot of the backgrounds look great, besides.
>>741843160>After 2007More like after 1990
>>741850629That's really petty anon.I guess some uncs will find any reason to hate.I don't mean to force you to buy or play things, those are completely at your discretion, but to me it takes a fervent willpower to be mad at every single little thing.
>>741850690and yet it's ff7 that people still to this day, argue over which girl is better
>>741850754>uncsWhy do children think "uncle" means "someone older than you"?Uncles can be younger than you kid...
>>741850754square died the instant they started making ff sequelssqueenix is a shambling corpse of two giants
>>741843076this is 100000000000000000000000000% bait. I like ff7 its absolutely wonderful to play through. Its one of the best looking damn
>>741850704FF7 released alongside Tomb Raider and Resident Evil, FF7 was as we would call it now: a switch game.
>>741850509ff9 is fucking boring as hell and I don't understand how anyone likes the fucking thing. I've played 1-8 skipped 9 and played 11/12. Seriously 9 is fucking boring. At least where I left off. What am I doing wrong
>>741850895>FF7 was as we would call it now: a switch game.What?
>>741850793it's nigger language
>>741850928>Admits he hasnt even played 9Yikes...
>>741850928Dunno? I find it to be one of the better FF titles.
>>741851010I said I played it up until a point and its boring. I stopped playing it.
Besides mods (of which I'm pretty uninterested in) and SLIGHTLY higher quality backgrounds/FMVs, is there any reason to play the PC version of the FF7 (and 8 and 9) over than the PS1 version on emulator?
>>741851065>I said I played it up until a pointNo, you literally said>I've played 1-8 skipped 9 and played 11/12
>>741851152I personally don't like the concept of consoles when my PC exists and can play anything.
>>741850961A game which is graphically behind.Charming or not, they had toasters for hands.
>>741850895>FF7 released alongside Tomb Raider and Resident EvilThat doesn't mean it looks bad, though?It's a pretty unique look, and the characters have a lot of individuality in their designs despite being so simple. Even in OP's picture, everyone looks distinct. It's simple cartoons with a low-poly blockiness to them. It's not dissimilar to Ecstatica. I'll repeat myself by saying I think it looks charming. A unique style goes a long way.
>>741851152ff7 with the pc's yamaha xg soundtrack, the composer's definitive release
>>741851242i skipped 9 before I tried playing it. When the game was released I just skipped it for some reason.
>>741850769people are retarded. There hasn't been a single good final fantasy game, yet people threat it like a coming of christ cause it throws random cool looking shit on screen every other moment.
>>741851273Who really cares about graphical fidelity though?Visual design is more important.
>>741851329>cant keep his story straightUh-oh!
>>741843076that isn’t your screenshot, gay bait
>>741851273It was cutting edge technology when it launched lolThe switch never was.
>>741851427do you think i'd just fucking lie?
>>741851427NTA but you're being a massive faggotHe's also a faggot for hating FF9 but that's irrelevant
>>741851510I'm not necessarily hating it. I'm trying to figure out why the fuck its boring. Its such a fucking slog to get through out of all the ones I mentioned. I just don't really get it.
>>741851468Yeah.>>741851510What are you crying about?
both the original and remakes are great.anyone who thinks otherwise is a secondary tourist
>>741851661remake is dog shit.
>>741851661Bootlicker.
>>741851562I think FF9 is great but honestly, the battles are slow as fuck (especially on PAL, rip) and don't really have the "punchy" feel that earlier and later FFs had. Since fighting is half the game, languidness can make the game itself feel kind of boring. The plot also doesn't have a great hook, it's more concerned with being a wistful adventurous "return to roots" FF. Many of the characters feel a bit underwhelming and Quina is a really dumb secret character. A lot of the locations aren't as memorable as the ones from earlier games.Despite all that I still think it's great, but I can see why you would have found it boring.
>>741851289FF7 looked bad, it's just that plenty of games looked bad so we were forgiving. Backgrounds don't count for the graphical achievement because it's a still picture and any game can load images, only the poly count counts, the computer graphics. People care about it today and they cared about it then. Why did they improve the graphics for FF8 if they didn't feel the sting of the critic on that front? FF7 wasn't supposed to look like that, Square just failed to do any better.>>741851464 Cutting edge my ass, lol, they don't even look human. Where's the faces? No textures? Fidelity 0. >>741851403 Tell that to the journalists.
>>741852069>Cutting edge my assSo you weren't alive when it was new. Thanks for confirming this fact.
>>741843160fpbp
>>741852147retard look up 1996 video games and see shit that actually has textures and art direction meanwhile square is there first time dabbling in 3d not even realizing how to tie polygons together. Ocarina of time and Crash Bandicoot and Sonic Adventure mog, while having full 3d camera
>>741852546>"P-p-prove yourself wrong for me...">"p-p-please..."No fag, prove yourself right or admit you can't.
>>741852546>Sonic AdventureThat's a 6th gen console.We're talking about 5th gen, disingenuous retard.
>>741852772we are talking about cutting age 1997 graphics.
>>741852893>Moves the goalpost againUh oh, stinky baby!!!
>>741853085i have entered the thread and replying to >>741852147 , i am not the anon you were arguing with before, the goalpost is in place
>>741852069>Why did they improve the graphics for FF8 if they didn't feel the sting of the critic on that front?FF7 doesn't have to look bad for them to improve on them (or go for a more realistic style) in 8.>Tell that to the journalists.Journalists are retards.Anyway, I continue to disagree with you and I think it's largely a matter of preference, but your gif is wonderful, so thank you.
>>741853163>i-i-it's not me...So these aren't you? Post (you)'s.>>741852546>>741852893
>>741853238those are me. Where was the goal post moves? I am staying on point of it looking like ass in 1997
>>741853329>Where was the goal post moves?>>741852546>"look up 1996 video games">>741852893>"we are talking about 1997"Here. Can't count or something?
Tomb Raider 2, November 1997, in-gameplay animation.
>>741853381you are actually retard. If ff7 is on the cutting edge of 1997, then 1996 games should not be able to mog it
>>741853493>If ff7 is on the cutting edge of 1997It's not. It's 1996.
>>741843412>something good
>>741853562yeah that's the fucking point it looks dated even by 1996, and like a complete ass in 1997, congrats you understood reality
>>741853757>yeah that's the fucking point it looks dated even by 1996Thanks for confirming you weren't alive in 1996 and have literally no frame of reference.
>>741852546Mario 64 mostly had gourad shaded textureless models too so its not that far off. Also on ps1 this helped avoid texture warping because of affine texture mapping so there were pros and cons to this approachLook at tobal 1 and 2, both use mostly flat gourauded shaded textureless graphics and yet they look great in 'high-res'
>>741853757Square and then SE have always been behind the trend technically. Old FF just like modern FF, they don't spearhead graphics or animations that's for sure. When FF is impressive it's impressive..for FF. FF10 had beautiful cutscenes, compared to other FFs, it had voice acting for the first time, in the franchise. FF, its fans and the studio live in a closed little world.
>>741843076you're loss
>>741843076>The originalThey are two distinct games that mechanically have almost nothing to do with each other. Storywise it’s not even a remake either but a reboot. Other than the name, and superficial story elements, they have almost nothing to do with each other.
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>>741843076Art design > Graphics Also VII expanded universe is, as a whole, shit. Not two ways around that.
>>741854641/thread
I'm gen Z. like it when videogames look like videogames, I really enjoyed the original but I couldn't beat sephiroth at the end. I didn't use any guides though. I also got stuck at wutai for a bit lol. I feel like if you actually like videogames the original still holds up very well, exploring towns and messing around with different materia combinations is fun.
>>741855447>like it when videogames look like videogamesbased zoomer
> The original is the worst looking video game ever m-
>>741843076Both remake and the original are masterpieces, both game incredible moments, funny and sad too.
