>>741846525
Working overtime?
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/3L9WcxrByVYXLS9PaB6yjA/

>>741846525
>500 GB for $1000
into the trash it goes

The problem is that it's a bad idea in general.
How about either spending less money on a laptop that also will emulate most things up to ps2 era (even phones do) and plays pixel slop or spending more and get a real PC.
This is like a mock sports car with 60 horse power, it's almost as hard to drive and doesn't have a truck but you still get honked to death when trying to overtake a semi since you are stalling the fast lane.

>>741846984
It was a good idea when the pc market wasn't completely fucked by ai.

>>741847069
It would be allright at 599 but if it was at 599 that would mean I'd get a decent gaming rig for 1.5k
It would still be a bad idea to not get the 1.5k gaming rig instead, it just wouldn't be retarded.

>>741846771
>no you can't shill this, you need to shill the Steam Machine!

>>741850464
>no, you can't like steam machine, you must hate it!
I'm buying neither, btw.

>>741846525
put a 16g 9060xt and it's a deathmog for not much more money

>>741846525
am i the only one who was looking at the image for an autism joke?

>>741850709
Well I am and op is going to seethe when the steam machine sells out regardless.

>>741846525
Physically larger than the Steam Machine and will have issues with thermals.

>>741846962
you do realise the reality of the world you are in, right?
>t-the SSD/CPU/GPU/RAM PRICE HIKES WILL COME DOWN ONCE THE AI BUBBLE POPS o-o-or... uh THE PRODUCTION LINES START MAKING MORE CONSOOMER TIER PRODUCTS
lel
lelemo even.
Regardless of what happens to AI, we are NEVER going back to pre-AI prices, even if they drop prices by 20~30%, it pails in comparison to the 300~400% hikes. Manufacturing companies have zero incentive to accommodate you, especially when theres enough retards who will pay up for the high prices to cover the loss of your sale tenfold.

You have no choice anymore. its over. You voted for this.

>DIY kit with rando cheap parts from Silverstone
vs
>works out of the box, plug it in and you're using Steam

I'm not building my own cube machine from a fly-by-night company. I'll just build a regular PC if I'm going to be hassled.
The whole appeal of the machine is it's a quiet little cube that you don't have to fuck with. Just build a fucking real PC that's even better than that pile of android shit if you're going to order loose parts.

>>741846525
>our response?
Good, keep it up. Competition is good for the consumer.

>>741851761
The only part in that build from Silverstone is the case, and that's the only part that is a guaranteed quality. Don't blame Silverstone for other stuff that might suck.

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>>741846525
>Have jannies delete your thread if we start losing the argument :^)
This board fucking blows

>>741852312
lots of the jannies are paid VaIveshills

>>741852463
What's even more important is if I made a thread with that image calling it out how obvious it is that there's a bias.
I'll get met with an IMMEDIATE 3 day vacation. I can see why this site is dying a dog's death and if I ever see someone claiming this website has "free speech" I'll laugh in their face.

>>741846525
If it has steamOS and is repairable - I'm all in

>>741851494
uh oh looks like someone is having a melty

>>741852312
Retarded post
A ps5 is still cheaper AND stronger (And has better optimized games) than a steam machine even With a whole generation worth of ps+ sub and at that point you are also getting hundreds of "free" games with it

>>741851331
they barely made any units and have already said there likely won't be any more batches

>>741852850
The problem is that I can't play my Steam games on a PS5

>>741852850
Yeah there's a reason why the thread was deleted. Steamies were losing the debate so fast and badly mods didn't even bother auto saging it. Fucking reddit has more free speech than this faggot ass place now.

>>741852925
You can't play multiplayer games either.

>>741853279
>Yeah there's a reason why the thread was deleted.
the reason being it was an e-celeb twitter thread fucking retard.

>>741846525
Since the steam machine is such a fucking disaster they should just reconfigure it as a DIY ITX shell. Make it large enough to accommodate a full size gpu, take out the ram, storage and the APU. There is actually a market for an ITX case with a chunky cpu cooler that is quiet and doesnt overheat

They should also strip down the steam frame, remove the ram and storage then just make a cheap wired variant for sim dads.

The products as they are have no use case.

>>741846525
not buying

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>>741846525
>the same
>uses more power
>runs louder and hotter
>fewer features and ports
Am I missing anything? Stim machine a shit

>>741852850
can the PS5 play every NES game in existence, every SNES game in existence, every gameboy game in existence, every gameboy advance game in existence, every gamecube game in existence, every Wii game in existence, every PS1 game in existence, every PS2 game in existence, almost every PS3 game in existence, every switch game in existence and every PC game in existence?

>>741855348
No argument I see.

>>741855610
kek, retarded steamgroid cope. You can do all that shit with a used 200 dollar gaming laptop. Your steam shitchene lost, you lost, kill yourself nigger

>>741846525
AMD BC-250 APU with unlocked GPU CUs

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>>741855676
can the PS5 play games such as Resident Evil: Requirem for absolutely free?

>>741855780
I can play it free on my currently existing rig that's cheaper and more powerful than your overpriced dogshit, retard. No amount of shilling will convince people to buy your gaycube KEK

>>741855676
>>741855852
I thought the argument is Steam Machine vs PS5?

>>741851331
all 50 units

>>741851494
>9070xt can be found for $700 or less
Not my fault you obsess over ai. I play video games

>>741855852
and what can you play on your PS5 that can't be played on that same rig?

>>741855906
no matter which way you want to cope, if they sell out they performed at or above their own expectations, and it was a success. i dont even think its a good product but if it sells out it was a successful business endeavour, and you retards huffing copium need to accept that.

>>741856146
>c-cope!
no need for coping with the bad product when there's 50 units non

>>741846525
amazing that some people are too lazy to even use ai correctly

>>741852593
>and is repairable
Anon...

>>741856109
>>741855889
I'm not the same guy retards. Regardless I'd choose a used PS5 over a steam machine any day if I needed to play current gen games and had nothing else and little money. The steam machine is just such piss poor value for money even if you're looking to get into PC gaming.

>>741856195
you're clearly very upset about the product for some reason, and saying that there's only 50 of them makes you feel better about whatevers upsetting you. its weird, maybe you need to find a hobby or something more important to worry about.

>https://www.techpowerup.com/342970/valve-claims-steam-machine-outperforms-70-of-current-gaming-pcs?amp

a timely reminder that at least 3/4 of /v/‘s battlerigs are less powerful than a Steam Machine or a Series S

positively grim

>>741856805
mine is. my "battlerig" is a steam deck. i managed to beat e33 and elden ring on it just fine, what games am i missing out on that i cant play on it?

>>741846771
Please don't bully OP that hard we already knew on an instinctual level that it's templated attentionwhoring.

>>741856805
Wrong, 3/4 of /v/‘s battlerigs are more powerful than a Steam Machine or a Series S

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>>741846525
valve supports this

>>741859873
>yeah we could subsidize the cost but we'd rather sell it at a huge profit because uhhhhhhh...... because the PC platform thrives on openness!
?????????? where's the correlation?

>>741860076
it means they want others to make copycats you fucking idiot
them making their hardware a better deal than anyone else makes it harder to sell
look at the deck, it was the go to until they stopped subsidising it because everything else was much lower value
valve wins regardless of who contributes to the rape and replacement of home consoles

>>741856456
>The steam machine is just such piss poor value for money even if you're looking to get into PC gaming
what a fat load of horseshit.

>>741856916
>elden ring on it just fine
did you manage to get a solid 40fps? i couldnt and thats why i dropped it.

>>741846525
>stim machine
sounds like a name for a sex toy

>>741860187
>it means they want others to make copycats you fucking idiot
they did, its called a PC
>they're jewing you for your own good!
imagine being this corpobrained

>>741859873
Cope.

>>741860674
living room gaming pcs aren't exactly popular
valve wants to popularise specifically those small form factor pcs since those can actually take on consoles and the end result is more game sales

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>>741846525
>TechBros trying to make their synthetic gods drove RAM and SSD prices through the roof
>The SteamBox's price rises accordingly
That's really all there is to say about this. I don't get how anyone here can say Steam "betrayed" us when they're responding to the horrible state of the industry.

>>741860918
ok but you're not justifying the fact that they're selling them at a huge profit instead of at the very least selling them at cost

>>741861032
that gabecube's price would've been shit even if the RAM crisis never happened. They were planning on a starting price of $750 which with those specs is still insulting.

>>741846525
Stupid name

>>741846525
im a steam drone with like 200+ games in my library. but even i can admit that steam is completely dropping the ball when it comes to their hardware releases.
steam controller, steam machine, deck prices going up. people will keep buying steam games but you can be damn sure no one is buying this hardware lol.

>>741856752
>very upset about the product for some reason
1050$ for worse than ps5 performance, valvejeet

>>741860448
it was 45fps 90% of the time, with some occasional drops below. i got used to it after a while but honestly playing below 60 fps is pretty gross.

>>741861206
but valve themselves say they are selling it at cost

>>741862134
No they don't. They always use words like "pretty much", "basically", "virtually" at a cost. So what they are saying is "yeah we make profit, but it is not much we swear!"

>>741851761
Steam Machine isn’t built for customized. Valve falsely advertised it, the old people are really stupid to not understand better PC parts exist that can reduce price.

>>741862134
>essentially
>basically
>okay we are making a profit but it isnt great

Stop believing Valve's PR bullshit.

>>741846525
At this point, might as well go to aliexpress and buy a "steam machine" for 300 bucks
What could go wrong?

>>741852601
NTA but he's right.
Get ready for 1k+ PS6/Xbox5 and it's still only 1TB and no disc drive.

>>741859873
>it's our belief that open systems are better in the long run
>same company that is getting sued and found to be forcing devs to raise their prices because steam would kick them off the store if they sell their games cheaper elsewhere
Yeah, suuuuure. They would never lie would they?

>>741852601
I'm noticing. You say he has a melty, but you can't say he is wrong.

>>741864356
open system doesn't mean you're open to take advantage of them
either commit to your ideological hatred of steam or bow down like the revenue bound cuck you are

>>741864798
Lmao
>they are not monopoly or committing monopolistic practices as long as you ignore them being a monopoly and committing unfair trade practices

>>741865070
monopoly is when you have no other alternatives and have to buy from them
if you don't want to use steam as a developer you can go anywhere else
can't do the same on consoles
why should steam's customers suffer due to your seethe about steam?

>>741864356
I remember when customers applauded price-match guarantees.

>>741846962
you can thank AI companies for that

>>741852601
you're a stupid faggot, he's right
AI companies destroyed consumer tech

>>741855957
try finding ram or ssd's for a reasonable price, dipshit. nobody is talking about gpu's

>>741865550
Yeah, when it was downwards trending, the problem is steam was forcing devs to price match upwards, or get booted off.
>>741865369
Correct, which is why steam is a monopoly. You either release on it, or you have no audience.

>>741866519
>monopoly is when i don't get an audience for free
why are you this retarded?

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>>741846525
>single ssd slot on steam machine
>it's a 2230 that has questionable levels of support on other pcs
its not even a starter pc its just complete ewaste garbage

>>741866661
>having 75% of the global distribution is somehow not a monopoly
Please pull that dick out of your throat before you choke to death. You might be a dumbass, but even if you are a complete retard, surely someone would mourn your death.

>>741866797
>monopoly is based on marketshare
peak retard

>>741866892
never said that, but yes, market share is one of the major indicators that something is a monopoly, the other would be anti competitive practices, like you know, forcing your price on competitors

>>741867519
>indicators
lol
the simple fact is that if you want to have customers you need to try to compete with steam on features
you're not entitled to customers because you're mad at steam, it's called fucking losing because no one wants to waste their time making an account for your shitty service
you retards are unironically rolling out the "you have to bake cakes for fags" argument
steam is allowed to deny you service if you're fucking them over

>>741866709
you can fit a 2280 in it

>>741867823
Yes, please, defend papa gabe a little more, if he is not allowed to use anti consumer practices, how else will he be able to add another superyacht to his fleet.

>>741868054
>you have to bake the cake chud!
you really just have no argument do you
steam is not responsible for their competition not being able to match their features

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>>741846525
Would you buy the french cube?

business idea: giant fans on the floodlights to keep everyone cool

>>741846525
>SteamOS
Valve wins. This is literally what Valve wanted.

>our response
don't care. nothing is locked behind the GabeCube. I can install the steamOS on my PC.

>>741868021
yes and its cube shaped because they cut every corner as much as possible with it and not in the good way either. no wonder they added a download progress led strip because its going to take ages to download modern games compared to wifi 7 and you have to keep downloading because being stuck with a single channel slot for 2TB is pathetic. this is just profiteering off the dumbest of their fanbase.

Damn, it feels good to have a decent paying job

>>741846525
price would be like $100 without AI btw gabe told me so

>>741869485
why are you faggots getting so butthurt over a device thats clearly aimed at noobs looking to crossover from consoles?

>>741860364
Nigger Linus built a PC that's twice as powerful with a controller for less. Keep coping.

>>741852581
Consolewarring is high-tier faggotry; stop bitching.

>>741868150
nta, steamies really are deranged. Guess having invested so much into a library that doesn't actually exist makes you angery. The idea that one day steam will be less popular is frightening to you, kek

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>>741852601
>shit! he's got me! How could I reply without hurting my massive incel ego?
>I know!
>>>741852601

>>741855348
I get it, these are tendies making these threads. I hope you guys get more than 1 game this year.

>>741870134
>i have no argument but i must make a post tell you i'm seething
ok

>>741859383
Bullshit. This board is filled to the brim with poorfags. Why else do giveaway threads always hit bump limit so fast? Because they can't afford to buy what they want and make sour grapes threads like these in order to cope with the fact that they get 100% priced out of the pc market

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>>741855521
it has much better specs, the steam machine has a laptop cpu and single channel ram and a 6600xt 8gb gpu. it also has the ability to undervolt the cpu and gpu, people have been building mini itx rigs for a long time thermals and noise are not a problem like people think and its going next to your tv anyway

>>741867519
Valve isn't stopping other companies from making a product with better features.

>>741870549
Even my old pc is more powerful than steam machine.

>>741869928
maybe because valve deserves to be called out for claiming its a better pc or runs better than what 70% their users are using. come on. everybody knows the 80-20 rule. 80% of users are running the 20% bottom tier of pcs. and crying that manufactuers weren't willing to give them ssds for such a shit product. ssds and ram are scarce in the consumer sector, why the hell would they want to support nothing but a vanity project that isn't any good without asking a premium. thats the actual reason they gave a fuck you price to valve, its because they aren't interested in selling to them at any price, but they spin it into cartel being cartels. sure valve, sure.

>>741870291
I don't give a shit either way. Not buying your gaycube and not paying money for air.

>4k specifically in mind
>$1k budget
Ngmi. Valve, ya dun goof'd.

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Handheld PCs are better value and you can just buy a dock for them if you wanna use them with your TV, I play PSO:BB on my TV all the time with my Rog Ally X that has cachyos handheld as the OS

>>741871278
no one is telling you to, buy whatever pc you want
you simply don't have an argument against steam and neither does that retard you replied for

>>741871512
1 steam level has been added to your account sirs, keep fighting the good fight

>>741871681
what's the point of making posts to say absolutely nothing?
the jeet steam accusation will never land btw, jeets are 17% of world's population but less than 1% of steam's traffic

>>741871264
When did they expicitly say any of that? Or should Valve just not share any data revealing that most pc gamers can't even afford the builds that they're shilling?

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>>741871512
>it's shit!
>then don't buy it. It's not like you're being forced to or losing options
>you're just a seething valvejeet, I win!

This fucking guy

>>741871939
jeets don't need to use steam, just give them 5 cents and they'll shill as much as you want for a brand they never heard about

>>741851761
>works out of the box
so spend more for less so you can save 15 minutes of clicking through a setup wizard?

>>741872352
They were unironically shilling 007 here on release. It's clear that they are major consolefags

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>>741872231
but its still shit and I won't be buying it, and I will continue saying its shit everywhere I can. also everyone I don't like is in fact indian

>>741872418
Your reductionism is very transparent; try again.

>>741846525
I'm ready to boughted.

I wanted to put my PC on a small machine but I resigned myself to just place it under the table instead, even if I keep constantly knocking it with my chair.

>>741872352
at that point calling anyone jeet loses all meaning

>>741872481
I think you're Indian too. I shall be buying. Just for the novelty and so I can play co-op games in bed with my girl.

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Watching people trying to put together a cheaper alternative but cut all costs on $30 PSU. Why do they do this bros.

>>741872604
Kind of like tranny and shill on this board, huh?

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Thank you Valve for making it so easy to play games

>>741872690
Because they think actual pcfags are as retarded as they are and need some kind of reassurance from other tech illiterate apes.

>>741872438
they aren't consolefags, they're moneyfags
they hold no believes of their own but simply say what they've been paid to say

>>741846525
>muh small factor
Who gives flying fuck about the form factor? Are you gonna stick this shit in your ass?

>>741872748
Good thing you can customize graphic settings in-game. Can you do that on your switch?

>>741872917
The games are optimized to run smoothly on console you damn retard

>>741872690
That only bothered me when GN did it. Literally why, some retarded fool might actually buy an Apevia PSU now thinking GN says it's good, even though it's literally impossible to buy a shittier PSU no matter how hard you try. Except maybe if you can find one on sale that's broken out of the box, but even that's not a guarantee because your hardware might survive.

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>>741872917
my switch 2 plays splatoon at 4k 60fps, steam machine can't even play racing games at 1080p. I also got it on release for like half the price of a steam machine

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>>741872993
>optimized to run smoothly on consoles

Lmao

>>741873168
You wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between 1080p, 1440p, and 4k in a side-by-side; you aren't fooling anyone.You tendies are the most tech illiterate group of people on this board.

My pc is fine. I have no reason to buy this

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>>741872993
Lmao

>>741846525
>y-you can't build a small pc at that price so the steam machine has its value proposition
Incredible how not a single reviewer is honest about the machine because it would strip them of opportunity for future collaboration and early bird review opportunity of steam products.

The whole market is extremely jewed.

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Game runs fine on my machine
>Games quality

>>741866519
>Yeah, when it was downwards trending
But it is. Valve isn't stopping devs from lowering the price on Steam to match that on their own stores.
Also, plenty of devs sell their games cheaper on itch.io, so I'm not even sure what you're smoking, probably cow shit or some other jeet-coded trash.

https://x.com/harukaze5719/status/2070082448252453332
God dammit why did they pick this chip when there are better mobile one.

>>741873871
Let's say you have enough money to buy either that or the steam machine. You get this money just given to you, and you need to use it to buy one of these. You get to keep your current pc by the way, this isn't gonna have to be your only gaming device but you're not gonna be able to sell it or any components so scalping isn't a factor.

Which do you pick? For me it's a really easy choice.

>>741846525
Isn't this what Valve intended though?

>>741874292
Yes but it depends if the install steamOS on it. Doesn't really matter cause they will end up using steam.

>>741874292
>tutorial on how to install SteamOS included
>resuregence of people building mid-spec rigs, forcing that as the new standard
Valve won. Even if they sell a single GabenCube, they won.

>>741874206
They could get it cheaper from AMD.

>>741846525
This is missing a lot of features

No HDMI CEC means no buy regardless of the deal though

>>741874210
Saar I will boughting the steam machine. Buying less is more.

>>741846984
You are missing the point of the Steam Machine (and the third party clones that hopefully spawn from it)
It's meant for the livingroom, for convenience and to be part of your TV setup.
tl;dr it's meant to finally bring PC into the livingroom in a way that isn't cluttered, clumsy, plain ugly or annoying.

Personally, I think it will achieve this, but then again I don't play consoles, I don't need a steam machine, I don't even have a TV (by choice).
I think a lot of people are missing the function of the Steam Machine, thinking it solely a smol PC.

All in all, this is cool, and I wish it great success. I ain't buying one though

>>741874463
There was no reason for them to go with the U chips which are low power, they could have gone with this https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/7000-series/amd-ryzen-7-7735hs.html

It shows how little effort valve is putting in this if some out of nowhere shop can build you a better equivalent this easily. It shows how little valve respects its user (not surprising from a company selling DRM).

>>741874292
This is cope, just like valve saying it is basically selling them at cost and then saying if you cant afford it you are too poor for pc gaming.

>>741874782
I can see Lenovo making their own seeing as they are licence to sell hardware with steamOS on it. With all the noise people are making it is showing that there is a demand for something like this.

>>741874872
no, you're just a consolenigger that fundamentally doesn't understand the pc market

>>741874837
>still lying about it using "desktop class" components
it's laptop class garbo

>>741874837
>steam machine has cuck cores
lmao

>>741874856
Valve likely went to AMD and said what can you get us for cheap? It is the same thing they did with the deck. They just lucked out with the deck because the handheld space was meh at release. If they released the 'eck now at $900, we would be having the same convo.

>>741874952
Yes, they released a shitty box so that a French company would release a tutorial on how to install Steamos. Gabe won again!

>>741874975
its ultra low power laptop chip which makes it even worse.

>>741874837
>Before: 4k60fps gaymen.
>Now: "Up to" 4k. No mention of 60fps.
o i am laffin!

>>741875002
They really need to stop buying amds junk at this point.

>>741846525
>literally the exact same RAM
>OUR RAM GOOD, THEIR RAM BAD

>>741868857
sex with this imouto

>>741875092
yes, they want the living room conquered and they don't care who provides the hardware since they provide the software and make money off games
again retard, you understand nothing about pc gaming
valve makes what? $100 per machine that costs $1k?
they make that same $100 off $330-500 spent on steam, a much better margin

>steamos for no reason whatsoever when every alternative is better
Valve got the masses scrambling to adopt the form factor they wanted and their OS just like last time. I'm told by the swarthy masses of /v/ they lost.

>>741875276
normalfags that want living room shit aren't ready for mainstream linux
even bazzite requires some degree of sapience

>>741875264
Valve invented small computers !!!

>>741875167
4k @ 5fps

>>741846525
It's like the people are focusing on the wrong issues with SM. Problem is it's OVERPRICED for what it it. Why are you suggesting comparable shit for a comparable price? $50 is not a significant difference.

>>741875446
Yet every non-deck UMPC owner immediately switched, with that holoiso crap even before Bazzite settled in.

>>741875548
Nta but on my GPDWinmax and Onexplayer I switched to EndeavorOS as I needed an Arch with GUI buttons so I could quickly update oneclick style

>>741874739
I would buy the steam machine too, because I don't like the component choices in the other one. Except the case and gfx card, that's nice.

>>741875473
NTA but your bait is way too dumb, even for /v/

>>741846525
It's too bad silverstone is incapable of making a PC that doesn't look like an office desktop PC from 2008

>>741875473
just because you're condescending doesn't mean you're not fucking retarded
valve is popularising the form factor and working on ways to improve living room gaming with steam input, steam controller, steam big picture

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>>741846771
TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS

https://x.com/TechGeekAnthony/status/2069884822093275202
These people are fucking insane, this is the type of person that will spread his asshole just to save a few bucks.

I hate what the RGBT has done to gaming.
It was such a chore to find a modest normal case, and then spray it down with an old light grey, and electrical tape all the lights on all components just so my PC doesn't scream "IM A GAYMER! I GAYME!"

>>741876134
Were just directly linking Twitter posts now?
This is what /v/ is now?

>>741875548
not really
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam?platform=linux


SteamOS Holo 64 bit
23.34%

AMD AMD Custom GPU 0405
10.51%
Steam Deck GPU
11.95%

decks are 22.46% of the steam linux survey and steamos is 23.34%
there are people that installed other distros but the vast majority didn't

foward scalpers

>>741846525
How do people not realize that this and other cheaper/more powerful mini PCs are only benefiting Valve? The point isn't them selling their machine themselves (although they benefit from that obviously), it's pulling more people into their ecosystem, doubly since this machine as well as others are shipping with either SteamOS or distros like Bazzite/Cachyos. In terms of Steam users, this is also a massive boon as the more devices like this or the Steam Deck are adopted the bigger emphasis there will be on proton development, and pushing developers to target weaker hardware by working on their optimization. Having competitors like this benefit everyone.

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>>741852850
Not in the long run after you pay your subscription. Subscriptions are always less value than outright buying something, but halfwits only think in short term.

also, what games and what "free" games? you're still paying for them, but let's call them free for the sake of the argument
start naming some

You got 10 exclusives total, plus 1 VR game
Sony groids eating good or what?

>>741876324
Hardware surveys are opt-in, metrics like youtube views and forum traffic are more tangible.

>>741846525
Does it have builtin CEC?

steam machine only exists to inflate the prices of rdna4

>>741876562
As a Linux user, I don't think there is a silent majority of alternative Linux users not opting into the steam hardware survey. In fact, I'd wager that a higher percentage of Linux users opt in to the hardware survey than windows users

>>741862359
>>741863094
What do you think it costs to buy the parts and assemble one steam machine? Then count how much profit they are making with each unit sold

>>741876717
I never accepted it myself, can't imagine most linux users being giddy about telemetry.

>>741876781
Don't forget that the price includes VAT and shipping.

>>741876791
Steam already collects and sells your data, I'm not gonna argue that you should leave your doors unlocked, but Im struggling to picture someone wholly okay with installing and using steam but drawing the line at a hardware survey

>>741875446
From what I've experienced with Steam Deck it really doesn't require anything at all, in the way of techsavviness.
Going to Desktop mode is slightly hidden under the power option, and if you're going there you are met with a straight forward desktop layout, a simple enough file/folder explorer and a discover/dolphin thing where you can just search for programs you need or want.
Wanting to do more advanced things like installing emulators is already something a normie and a couchboy won't do, but might have a friend with the knowhow do.
The big picture default mode (console brain mode) is smooth and most people won't ever need to go out of it

>>741877092
by mainstream linux i meant not steamos
that thing specifically saddles you in console ui

>>741851761
Don’t forget to power cycle your Steam Machine after using sleep mode to recover 50% of your performance, Mr Just Works

>>741877148
My mistake anon

>>741876781
Given Valve's statements? Less than what they are selling it for.

>>741871264
>claiming its a better pc or runs better than what 70% their users are using
You're free to see the hardware surveys, Valve itself has more in-depth data, because not everone shares their hardware data
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam
Were you not aware that vast majority of PC users have absolute toasters? It's why games like CS and League of Legends are popular.
>>741872073
Interviews with Valve employees, I don't remember the exact ones, but if you look at any of the mainstream hardware shills like Linus, Gamersnexus etc. iirc, they all include the part about the "70% users" thing, and it's no bull, since Valve has that data, and they share it for the users to see, vast majority have shit rigs.

>>741876528
>R-Type
Holy blast from the past. They still make that series?

>>741846525
This just shows the whole selling at cost thing Valve says is bs. Unless they count 10% profit to Gabe's next yacht is cost.

>>741877224
You can purchase said exact parts yourself, why don't you bother doing some research since you certainly have the time to make your wild claims? You don't even have to go as far as buying them, but just get the rough estimate

>>741877343
>tfw a 3070 8gb puts you above 80-90% of steam users
Sheesh

>>741846525
Is it also a satanic 666inch cube?

>>741877463
Yes, Valve is paying the same as I would pay from newegg or Amazon. Silly me.

>>741877440
At cost also factors in money spent on RnD. Not saying Valve isnt getting ANY money from this, but it's far from exploitative

>>741877579
my friend has a 30 series card but his performance in various games is getting absolutely dumpstered by the 8GB VRAM

>>741878391
I'm on a 3070 and the only game to give me any real trouble is monster hunter wilds which conveniently runs like shit on every card

>>741876967
Well then, that would be me. Not out of privacy concerns but because I don't care about it.

>>741878778
Well hey bud, you do your thing, I'm certainly not saying my estimated opinion is some kind of scientific fact

>>741878391
Teach him how to do gfx settings. Unless you're using Nvidia on Linux and encountering some vmem bug, you shouldn't be hitting mem limits with suitable settings

>>741878391
>dumpstered by the 8GB VRAM
Who seen this coming... It's almost like planned obsolence was the point.

And what did idiots do? Buy the 8gb vram shitters. They still do.

>>741852312
So don't play online games? Half the time some modern online game doesn't even work on steamos that's the usual valvefaggot advice. "You don't want to play it anyway stupid tranny!!"

>>741870130
why is it encouraged then?

What's the ideal device for gaming for me if I want to project the image of a gamer who hates Steam, hates Valve, hates Gabe Newell, hates Half-Life, Hates FPS games, hates the Steam Deck, hates the Steam Machine, hates playing with a keyboard and mouse, and hates all PC gaming in general?

>>741874782
Laptops have been doing that for decades.

>>741885313
5090

>>741869950
>e-celeb dicksucker
opinion discarded

>>741862061
>im a steam drone with like 200+ games in my library. but even i can admit that steam is completely dropping the ball when it comes to their hardware releases.
sure you are.

Man I hope you MAGA, Trump-dick slurping morons realize how badly you fucked up by voting this cunt in.

>>741887721
communist faggots try not to blame everything on trump challenge: level impossible

gaben is fat and i refuse to give him more food

>>741852850
>And has better optimized games

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>>741852312
Linux has always been a PlayStation shill. He's recommended a Snoy console over a gaming PC before, I think it was during the crypto-induced GPU price hikes. Pic related is a game console tier list he made a video for

>>741888127
>Linux
kek, Linus*

>>741887808
You really think covid, tariffs, and Trump pushing data centers has nothing to do with PC prices?

>>741856805
>billions of third worlders share cheap shitboxes in internet cafes
>this means your average consumer in western countriws has a worse pc then the steam machine
Every time someone logs into their steam account in one of those cafes for the first time, it dings the survey. The survey is by account not by machine. You have a single garbage machine duplicated hundreds of times in that survey. And this is happening across hundreds of internet cafes each with dozens of machines. It is possibly the most inaccurate survey based on actual hardware use possible.
Call me when the steam hardware survey allows you to filter out duplicate mac addresses, until then it makes you look like a fool to defer to it(which is exactly the target audience for the scam machine).

>>741888498
the AI bubble is what destroyed component prices and would have happened with or without trump

>>741888853
>the AI bubble is what destroyed component prices and would have happened with or without trump
Sure, anon

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/07/accelerating-federal-permitting-of-data-center-infrastructure/

>>741888968
>orange man bad
Sure, faggot