>Overworld map is so bad it makes the game unplayable
filtered, you need to move to Japan in order to play it
>Sequel streamlines it and makes the map look less soulful as a result
The overworld is fine, the actual issue is the (lack of) dungeons and fucked stat scaling that forces you into hyper offense or nothing.
IV was my first smt game and when I got to the overworld map I thought it was a joke or surely there was some different method of traversing it. I was so used to being a giant character traveling through the overworld in other rpg's it made the barebones pin seem jarring. Nowadays I think the pin is charming though
>>741856350I prefer the pin
>>741855864This, especially after Nocturne the lack of dungeons is such a massive fucking downgrade. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>741856570Okay, according to Wikipedia,>It was planned from an early stage for Shin Megami Tensei IV to be on a portable platform for reasons of player convenience;[18] it was originally planned to be developed for the Nintendo DS using the Strange Journey engine, but eventually development was moved to the Nintendo 3DS, which led to the decision to use a different engine.[16]So I don't know if the transition to trying to make a 3D game on a new engine rather than just making it like Strange Journey limited them too much to design good dungeons or what, but based on SMT V, maybe they're just washed and retarded.
>>741855864i like the ruined city environments in terms of art direction and how closely they try to recreate an actual city but in terms of puzzles or challenge they're very lacking
>>741851978It's the best part of the game. The first 8~10hrs of Visual Novel Dungeon Crawler were trash.
>>741857762>based on SMT V, maybe they're just washed and retarded.Yeah, this seems to be the most likely explanation.
>>741851978>weeb enough to play a game called shimmigoomi ten say>not weeb enough to learn the basic layout of the world's most populous metropolis
>>741855785People who glaze IVA are not ensouled, there's no other explanation.
>>741854462>>741855785>>741859605You haven't played the game. You can't see shit because everything is muddy brown, there's fog, everything looks the same and the camera resets after every unavoidable encounter so you lose your bearings
>>741859605>hank hill smirks
>>741859234Well yeah. Over the course of the PS2 era nearly all their old guard talent left.
>>741859993Aoocalypse was a major improvement. Demon's Domains sucked.
>>741859993>You can't see shit because everything is muddy brownturn your 3DS on
>>741851978games I like but can't recommend
>>741860402It's a mixed bag honestly. The actual gameplay is definitely improved but holy fuck did the writing take a nose dive, and it's not like 4 was exactly stellar in that regard to begin with.
>>741860647Mainline games are a huge nothing burger in regards of writing, honestly, although sure, the cast of Apocalypse was too :average JRPG" for it.
>>741860647They should've just literally stolen the plot of SMT II
>>741861107The children aren't ready for a bro on the level of SMT 2 Satan.
I miss Etrian Odyssey
>>741851978>Hoy, Flynn. I think it would be best if we eat that karaage while resting at the Hunter Association. A man was singing praises of that fried food, and we should enjoy ourselves while searching for the Black Samurai.>Walter, going for such a messy looking food would only wear us down during battle should it not sit well with us. Might I suggest we partake in the edamame? It seems like a rather light snack to refresh ourselves with. Isabeau, what are your thoughts?>I'm not sure, I'm so neutral on this subject. Flynn, you make the decision.
>>741862487Isabeau would vote for the manga cafe.
>>741862487you guys get what you want to eat and i'll eat isabeau out, how's that
>>741863692Hoy, that's rather filthy. She doesn't bathe.
>>741860337>that's a clean burning hell I tell you what>Trisagion +9>charon's theme starts playing
>>741860402>Aoocalypse was a major improvement.Delusional.
>>741866294Mechanically it absolutely was. Better dungeons too.
>>741867197>Mechanically it absolutely was.How? By making me waste time finding demons with at least 2 good affinities so I could put two elements on it an a support skill just like I would in IV? There are no good changes other than fixing how broken makarakarn and tetrakarn was.
>>741867463Affinities are absolutely a good thing. the fuck are you smoking? It was one of the best added features.
>>741867565>Affinities are absolutely a good thing.They were actually shit and they didn't make me change how I fuse my demons. Maybe if they made innate skills locked, then affinities would've been a good system.
>>741867463Yeah anon, I would say not having demons by literally identical using placeholder values because the game is too damn unfinished like IV is an improvement
>>741867915My demons were still identical. Is it actually the shitty tranny armor that makes the game so "good" for you, bro?
>>741867197>Better dungeons too.Actually having dungeons at all, you mean. 4 had literally nothing besides domain hallways and reverse hills.
>>741868457>Actually having dungeons at all, you mean.What do you mean by that? Like 2-3 new maps inside of a game that was made by reusing all the assets?