Why doesn't Valve just make a cheap version of the steam machine without the components that became crazy expensive like RAM and SSD and let users install their own?
>>741857512Ok bro, that will be $800 + tax + tip :)
>>741857512>thinks gaymers can install those things and then an OShahahahaha
>>741857512That would be very consumer friendly.Can't let them decide what they want
>>741857679thisbox is made for people who are scared of their own smartphone. if you want a decent machine, you assemble it. This will always be the way, no matter what you believe or say
>>741857708Probably why the chinkhelds are on the come up. And then you have all these programmers out there bringing more and more features to the emulators and pc ports... I really don't think Valve thought this through, not at all.
>>741857512you have to take half the shitcube apart to even replace the RAM, ain't no way a casual will be willing to do that (especially since opening it up voids the warranty)
>>741857512>OK, it is uhm... 900$>WHAT? WHY YOU LOOK AT ME LIKE THAT? IT'S WHAT IT COSTS
>>741857512>Why doesn't Valve just make a cheap version of the steam machine without the componentsSo you're just buying a plastic box?
both the ram and the NVME driver are soldered to the board, they've gone full Apple. you aint upgrading shit
>>741857512Why don't you just build your own PC, retard?
>>741857512Making it cheaper for valve doesnt make it cheaper for the user.
>choice is bad>/v/>2026
>>741857837Opening it doesn't void the warranty.
>>741857998Yes it does. The manual tells you this.
>>741858043Valve has never cared with Steam Deck. Why would they suddenly start caring?
>>741857512why doesnt valve just make irl money of their own? counter-strike guns and shit
>>741857623fpbp /thread
>>741858164It's partially true of the Deck as well, if you take it apart they'll refuse any repairs (including replacements)
>>741857937What annoys me about your generation is that you don't even bother looking for the technical way to do something, even when the instructions are out the open, easily accessible. You could (in under 5 minutes learn how remove soldering.) But you won't cause you're lazy
>>741858283What annoys me about your generation and that other guys generation is that you start talking about random unrelated products which have nothing to do with the thread. What the fuck are you idiots soldering "NVME driver" to?
>>741857916Yeah why not? Just give people a cheap box that you can easily install components on like lego and easily install the steam OS and it's gold
>>741858440This already exists.
>>741858283>buy heatplate>buy stencils>buy hot air station>buy flux>buy magnifying glass>source compatible chips>don't fuck it upjust to finish my cheaper DIY steam machinetruly the customers willing to do all of the above must be multiplitous
>>741858283if you think removing the RAM and NVME and replacing them with higher capacity chips "just werks" tells me all I need to know about your knowledge. the firmware would have to be rewritten you clueless old fuck
>>741858164>The Limited Warranty does not apply if the Hardware has been modified or repaired by anyone except a Valve-designated service center
>>741857937>>741858283>both the ram and the NVME driver are soldered to the boardno. VRAM is EXCELLENT REPAIRABILITY imagine spreading misinfo. mindbroken Tender
>>741858462Nah cause you got too many options in the PC space and countless different case sizes and cooling options and heatsinks and PSUs all that shit with too much research needed to find out what's good + cheap, it's too much of a headache for the average user
>>741858738You're literally asking for more options. Also there are thousands of different prebuilts made for users who don't want to do it themselves.
Valve should make PCPartPicker builds available on its website.
>retards in this thread don't understand how warranty works
>>741857937NVME and RAM aren't, the gpu vram is soldered.
>>741858849>You're literally asking for more optionsSlightly more, it doesn't have to be all or nothing. There's potential for a good balance here.
>>741857965yes it does if you can use components that you got in a sale or already had
>>741857679>and then an OSYou need to go back to >>>/g/, linjeet.
Because this is a product for people who buy prebuilts. These kinds of people are too afraid to do something as simple as installing RAM or a new hard drive. They want something that is plug and play.
>>741857512FELLOW GOYIM, WE MUST PAY TRIPLE FOR SHIT HARDWARE AND OPEN OUR ASSES FOR STEAM TO BE REAL GAMERS
>>741857512The idea of steam machine was to have an entry level PC gamer for fags who can't be bothered to install parts themselves, while still being "pretty enough" to be placed in front of your living room TV.
>>741857512that troon on the left is 100% of the most annoying br*tish phenotyperevolting to look at
>>741866843You VILL use their pronouns
>>741864304People who buy prebuilts are typically console people who want the power of a PC, buying the steam machine defeats this purpose since it's weaker than consoles
>cheap version of a 4K ready gaming PC>thinks SSD and RAM are the biggest costRAM amounts past 16GB are a meme unless it's a server or running actual loadsGPU and CPU are more than half of the price (meme inflation bump for ram)
>>741858618I reiterate: Lazy
>>741857512>Gabes strongest soldiers
>>741857512LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741873851still lying about it using "desktop class" components though
>>741857512They did, it's called installing steamOS on a custom build.
>>741857512>why don't ferrari just make a cheap version of a car that doesn't have the crazy expensive components like an engine or wheels?
>>741880840>ferrariit's more like a fiat
>Why doesn't Valve make a product that no consumer asked for and makes them less money?
>>741857512me on the left
>>741880840>>741884692>this fiat is priced like a ferrari due to wheel prices going crazy, why not sell it without wheels and let people install their own so you can actually price it like a fiat
>>741857512did you know you can actually make your own for cheaper? its called a PC! you should google it
did anyone get one?
>>741884986Everyone asked for and expected a cheap steam machine, no one asked for a $1400 shit heap that performs worse than consoles
>>741885607Few asked for the AI "bubble" or a bullshit war over the world's energy resources, both of which directly contribute to the rising cost of almost every single goods and service we consume, but this is the reality of the world and an EXTREMELLY MINOR SYMPTOM of those consequencesThrowing a tantrum at a video game company because they're not willing to give you discounted entertainment at a loss is so unbelievably disconnected from reality. Get help
>>741857512This is exactly the clientele this was made for. Low IQ lazy/fat dykes. A 200 dollar used intel nuc would be perfect to stream from your rtx5090 in your game cave.
>>741886415>disconnected from realityIt's not though, consoles do it, Valve can afford to do it with the billions they rake in taxing 30% from every game sold on steam
>>741857679Uhhh it's a retard box for fake pc gaaaaaymer fafs like you, you got played bitch.
>>741857512Becase that defeats the whole purpose of the steam machine.
>>741857679you're not wrong. You can literally install SteamOS on your own PC right now but people wont do it
>>741857937only the vram is soldered. Valve is literally recommended to install your own ram when you receive it because its 1 stick instead of 2 sticks
>>741857512Should've made one with slots in the top for you to slam a GPU and your own RAM into.
>>741873851technically still not wrong, you can get up to 60fps with FSR
>>741889759"technically" just put 8k 120 since it can run some old games at 8k 120
>>741890192now thats real gaming
>>741857916ya'll faggots still baughted funko pops
>>741889759In what games?
