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>time to run through the same identical dungeon again
>looting the same identical healing grape again
>fighting the same identical enemy formation with the same identical weaknesses again
>seeing the same formulaic cutscene again
>time to do this for 60+ hours for three games straight
Yep, it's Octoshart time.
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2 was amazing, should i play the others?
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Does the OP like or dislike [game in OP]?
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>>741869045
guys, please just stop giving SquareShitnix your money. I need them to go bankrupt already. At least pirate
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>>741869045
The first one had SOUL and novelty of 2D-HD but the sequels and all the other games look way too same and somehow worse
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What is up with the hate campaign towards these games?
Every single thread about Asano's games is dedicated to shitting on them. Christ man how about toss in some recommendations at least make it interesting.
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I get that they were trying to recapture something like live-a-live but they didn't do a good job, the 8 mini-scenarios you're asked to play through are just not interesting.
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>>741869045
Triangle Strategy = Octopath 2 >>>> Octopath 1 > Elliot.
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>>741869943
Elliot mogs octoshit like you wouldn't believe
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>>741870125
The demo was ASS.
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>>741869342
1 effectively a beta
0 is CotC repurposed for consoles with the same overall gameplay as the gacha: whole cast (except for the new super special MC) can't subclass, player party is 4 backrow and 4 frontrow 8-man teams, too many characters which you will end up benching (at least 36 in all), the 8 "varied" stories are relegated as 8 story arcs revolving around 8 main villains, and those arcs go in order from 3 Master of ___ > Master of All > 3 Bestower of ___ > Bestower of All.
0's superboss is also a fucking joke. Not the true final boss but that one's also pathetic.
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>>741869424
Why do you need this? Has this video game company wronged you in some way?
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>>741869671
There has been a newish schizo that made it her mission to shit on 2d-hd visuals for hours every day.
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>>741869505
>octopath 2 looks worse than octopath 1
t. blind
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>>741870170
It's good writing like Octo2 but with actual good gameplay this time instead of jrpig slop
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>>741869045
My random thought on this game is thank god that I started as Therion. It wasn't until I beat his story and swapped him out that I realized all those purple chests I found throughout the game would have been locked if he wasn't in the party.
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>>741870324
I legit can't get into Elliott because the hitstun is too excessive.
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>>741870465
Purple treasure chests don't exist in OT2, thankfully.
...............They came back as blue chests in OT0 that you can only open after rebuilding and upgrading the damn church in the town building thing.
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>>741870324
>crapiott
>good writing
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>>741869671
It's almost like they make bad games or something.
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>>741872948
Bad games come and go. But making weekly hate threads about a game that came out nearly a decade ago is pretty unhinged. I'd get it if the criticism was aimed at the latest release, but for some reason it's almost always Octopath Traveler 1.
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>>741869505
>The first one had SOUL
Sunk cost fallacy. Stop letting trannies have power over you just because you wasted your money. Get over it NOW
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>>741869671
There is a dedicated schizo for almost every franchise that a portion on /v/ likes
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OT1 was actually pretty kino

>see old man NPC some distance away from the road staring at a bunch of children
>inspect his inventory
>only has some candy
environmental storytelling!
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>>741873220
I shit on 2 when I see threads up about it.
>>741875053
This is always an excuse to deflect criticism.
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the 2nd game is on humble bundle. worth it?
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why tf doesn't my gamepad work for octopath 2
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>>741869045
not to mention every single fucking chapter basically boils down to:
>enter town
>spam current character's Path Action™ on townsfolk until story progresses
>enter dungeon and kill boss
the entire game is so formulaic holy shit
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SEX WITH OCHETTE
that will be all
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>>741869342
No
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>>741870125
>Outside of the single town, every era is the same, right down to the landscape and enemy placements 99% of the time, effectively having you explore the same world map 4 times
>Dungeons only matter in a single era; otherwise, they only contain a heart piece, or much more likely, a gem you already have
>Every character's a Mary/Gary Stu competing to see who can be the most altruistic, modest person alive, causing every conversation to be the most generic, mind-numbing dialogue imaginable
>The singular story the game has is worse than any of the 8 individual stories in Octopath 2
>Not a single memorable character
>Worst writing of any of their games
>Faie abilities are broken as shit, and render all normal fights trivial
>Bombs -- among other things -- are broken as shit (sprinkler), and render all boss fights trivial

Easily the worst of their games yet. Hope they improve on its potential sequel.
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>>741877071
Based
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>>741870125
The supreme gentleman solos
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>>741872948
This
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>>741879490
>Every character's a Mary/Gary Stu competing to see who can be the most altruistic, modest person alive, causing every conversation to be the most generic, mind-numbing dialogue imaginable
This is what also ruined it for me.
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Bought OT2, is it better than the first game?
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>>741885604
Just the same thing, but a little more. Gameplay doesn't even change for the better.
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>>741885604
I had more fun with 2 than 1 but 2 is much easier since it feels like all late game bosses have drastically reduced health compared to 1 bosses
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octopath's battle system is JRPG porn for me. first was mixing and matching jobs, seeing numbers get even higher. truthfully octopath 1 besides the cute stories didn't really start until this was unlocked. its a bit of a struggle to stay hooked during this part. and then you unlock the secret job classes. I fucking cum.
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>>741885762
>feels like all late game bosses have drastically reduced health
It's both that and the OT2 cast is that much stronger, so the game has more tools to break it apart.
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>>741870125
The fairy sexo alone mogs any of the Octopath girls
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>>741869045
It's a bloated game that thought you needed a world where all the character scenarios happen in. Basically, Live A Live already did what Octopath Traveler attempts to do and did so 30+ years ago.
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Did Octopath 0 flop
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>>741869943
Triangle stragegy is a fucking slog, it is bearable for a first playthrough but trying to go for the other endings is pure torture.
Characters repeat the same points over and over again

I did enjoy most combats but fuck that 20min intermission between fights
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>>741869045
played ot1, it was mid at best
playing ot2, it's still mid at best
these games are fundamentally just not capable of being good like real jrpgs used to be
more than 50% of the content is you just steamrolling areas you're wildly overlevelled for because no matter what you do, no matter what order you take, that's the outcome
and still barely any, if any, "optional" dungeons - which are still literally 3 screens long just like the first game - are marked or directed to particularly clearly so it's unlikely you will stumble into them at the appropriate level for them to require you to play the game. you're not doing sidequests intentionally and looking for them because they will overlevel you further than you already are.
the entire game is a fight against its abysmal design to try and keep it engaging whatsoever.
people bitch about level scaling as a concept in most games but if there's any game that needed level scaling its this shit, not "okay time to do this chapter 2 recommended level 14 i'm level 40" trash
and then even if there is any of the individual story plots that even seems interesting, it doesn't matter because it's 15 mins story split into 3 chunks of cutscenes max and it's done. "the overreaching arc is the big bad superboss though" that isn't a story man. when you boot up a 90s jrpg, the story has ups and downs and a whole lengthy winding plot. the writing in octopath doesn't matter at all because there is just no real story to dig into and build.
games are too short, games far too unchallenging, and it's a travesty they keep making them because it's ultimately worse than infinity rpg maker indie games because at least they try
people should stop funding squenixes pushing out of zero budget zero manpower half assed shit
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>>741894434
Tldr
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>>741885604
No
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>>741888160
This. Castti pretty much breaks the game
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>>741885604
yes, its better in almost every way, like i'm not sure there's a single party member i don't like better than their OT1 counterpart.
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>>741901426
>No Partitio
>Oshitte
>Best party
Shit taste 2bhfamily
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>>741875974
>there are no dedicated schizo
>I shit on 2 when I see threads up about it.
you literally admitted to being a dedicated schizo retard
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>>741869045
Elliot>Octo 1>Octo 2>Tri strat
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For me, it's
various daylife
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>>741873220
I don't think the game got any significant updates in 10 years to make it not mediocre anon
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>>741869045
Same as 2
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>>741896745
8 disconnected generic micro stories and developer mandated overleveling does not make a good game
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>>741889051
>Pedos be like "I'll take the toddler fairy!"
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>>741903175
>Elliot first
Come on.
>Octo 1 > Octo 2
Okay, now you're just trolling.
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>>741902848
Reminder that Pekachette is best girl
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>>741903056
I don't make threads about OT2 or seek them out. When someone asks how a game is, of course I'm going to give my thoughts on it. This desire for an echo chamber is the exact kind of behavior that causes people to screech about imagined boogeymen.
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>>741869671
People come in different levels and the higher level ones feel pain when engaging with the writing of bad games.
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>>741903056
>people who disagree with me are schizos
based
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>>741905612
>higher level
>obsessing over an 8 year old game
Oh that's high autism alright
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>>741901426
There's a better Tressa? How?
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>>741869045
I like these games, but I hate the "Octopath" gimmick.
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>>741907170
Tressa is a mediocre character with a trash story and the Merchant job's arguably even stronger in OT2.
It's not a hard achievement to be better than her.
All she has going for her is Runelord sub since they nerfed the follow-up elemental hits from the rune equivalents in OT2.
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>>741907170
Alright, i can give you that one. I like Partitio, but his story is probably OT2's weakest one, and Tressa has the advantage of being a cute girl so its hard not to be biased in her favor.
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>>741907170
Partitio is a better Tresa
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>>741907497
> advantage of being a cute girl so its hard not to be biased in her favor.
You sound like a fag Kek
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>>741907713
you're the expert on fags, so i'll take your word for it.
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I'm a classic FF fan, Octopath is total shit and I hate HD2D.
I really tried to enjoy these games but there is almost nothing good about them, everything is such a chore.
The story format gimmick results in worse story, horrible dialogue. The out of battle mechanics are annoying and lead you to inspect every NPC and fuck around too much.
The turn based combat is very bad, identifying weaknesses to deal with the staggers. Harder boss=bigger health bar.
Graphics as I said, don't like and the music isn't noteworthy. VA is cringe.

If there's any evidence Square shouldn't return to turn based, this is it.
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>>741907497
I wouldn’t compare Partitio to Tressa despite both being merchants. The closest character to Tressa is Agnea, both are the same age, both are young, naive girls wanting to see the world, they both have a caring father figure and have similar personalities. It’s like the head writer decided to recycle her for the dancer.
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>>741908362
yeah, but Agnea has big milkers so she has the option of being a dancer, Tressa has to be a wagie because she can't make money the easy way.
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>>741908536
She’s a Jew anon she knows how to make money the easy way
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>>741908236
>I hate HD2D.
that's rough, I find it completely inoffensive, and maybe because of that i don't think a single thing you talked about is as bad as you think it is, and your ultimate conclusion is completely retarded.
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>>741908924
HD2D looks like ass taken as is.
It's only okay if you disable most of the forced post-processing shit.
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Sex with big daddy osvald
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>>741909120
that's fair, i do think they like bloom way too much, but i'm not sure how you jump from that to
"this is why square shouldn't make turn based games anymore"
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>>741909190
go to bed HAAAAARVEY!
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>>741908858
Octopath Merchants are like the anti-jew, they're super naive idealists that think they can use capitalism to make everyone happy, and think all merchants have a moral obligation to do so.
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>>741909190
based
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>>741908924
I just don't like it. I feel that it tokenises the pixel art, I've never liked 2d sprites inside 3d. It's like staring into a box with paper cutouts, it's harder to connect with a story and characters when they are presented this way.

I'd much prefer good pixel art. The entire appeal of Octopath and the HD2D is nostalgia. It's a cheap way of "improving" pixel art, it'd be much more effort for them to make a fully modern 2D game with their classic style.
>>741909248
>"this is why square shouldn't make turn based games anymore"
I was commenting on more than the graphics. They made the combat gameplay a chore like everything else in the game and for some reason the company just can't let go of stagger systems which are inappropriate in turn-based.
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>>741904518
It’s a shame how little nsfw there is of the Octopath girls. There’s like almost no good Castti pictures and I’ve only seen one fan art about her taking off her clothes while drunk.
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>>741869424
Square is one of the few companies that's still making real games instead of movies, tranny propaganda simulators or GaaS slop. They deserve every cent.
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>>741869505
the first one is the biggest tendie boost recipient of all time. it only got praised because it was the first big JRPG on switch.
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>>741909401
I haven’t played ot1 in ages but I’m positive Tressa is a huge Jew in that game
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>>741879490
Is it really that bad? Guess I'll wait for a discount.
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>>741910056
>Square is one of the few companies that's still making real games instead of movies
Square's an odd beast though, they make both real games AND movies, and they seem to seriously resent the real games they make judging by how often they seem to try to put them out to die while heavily pushing their flop movies.
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>>741894434
The worst thing about Octopath Traveler is ironically the Octopath which is why 0 is by far the best game since it doesn't bore you with repeating the same shitty generic plot progression 8 times in a row.
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>>741869045
They're not identical though.
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>>741912073
They are nigga
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>>741869671
I like them all. And I'm enjoying Elliot
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>>741869943
TS is amazing. People need to understand it's part visual novel.
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>>741912990
And it’s boring and badly written
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Post your favorite music track from one of the games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svqlNnT3mfE
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>>741869045
>>741869724
>>741869943
How does all of these compare to Live-A-Live?
that's the only one I played
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Is octopath 0 worth it
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>>741915978
It's incredibly long to the point where it was starting to overstay its welcome by the end (this is both a positive and a negative because I definitely felt like I got my moneys worth at least)
Most of the plot lines are pretty bad, but the few that are kino make up for it entirely
The amount of characters you can get is neat, but realistically only a handful are actually useful
Music is a mix of new and recycled stuff
Overall it's pretty enjoyable and I'd recommend it, but I don't know if it's worth full price so I'll say grab when it goes on sale
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>>741914658
I don't know about the mobile game/OT0, but OT1 and OT2 are both far better than Live a Live
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>>741914658
Live a live sucks ass
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>>741914658
Better but that's not saying much as Live A Live is one of the weakest games in the genre.
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>>741918310
Nope
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>>741869045
Awful game. Can't believe i paid full price (in australian dollars) for it. What a fucking idiot i am.
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>>741919861
Forgot to mention that I’m trans btw
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>>741869671
Have you played them? They're extremely fucking boring. If aren't WOW'D but the artstyle why even bother?
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>>741915978
Yes it’s kino
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Would a Primrose
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>>741877071
>>741879649
>>741901426
>>741904872
Not a furry but...
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I remember none of the characters of this game, none of the areas, none of the music, none of the battles
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>>741914658
I haven't gotten far enough in any of them. At least Live-a-Live had the caveman section in the OG. I only played a minute of the HD-2D remake but it probably did it justice. Octopath 1 is forgettable, Octopath 2 has Osvald and Ochette who I at least remember. Octopath 0 is a repurposed gacha with zany over the top villains but it's pretty good too for the bosses, probably better than 1 because of high gacha budgets.

I'm probably as much of an expert on this question as the rest of /v/ though.
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>>741919861
Octoslop Hoggler
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These games have some of the best soundtrack and atmoshere of any jrpg I've ever played. The gameplay and stories are also sufficent. I will never understand the hate boner.
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>>741918310
>>741919514
>>741917119
>Live-A-Live is one of the weakest games in the genre
didn't stop everyone from dickriding Chrono Trigger.
Why would it stop me from saying LAL is good?
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>>741929047
zoomzoom sees pixel and will scream at the top of his lung "SLOOOOOOOOP", then go back playing minecraft
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lets say i can only pick one
which one is best?
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>>741932073
Triangle Strategy
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>>741927742
How can you not remember Partitio, I swear people have the shittiest taste in characters
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>>741933798
I don't like mercantilists. Scholar and huntress are more honorable.
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>>741932073
Octopath 2
Live A Live is already way too damn short since it's a SNES game with barely any content compared to the other two.
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The only "hd-2d" game i liked so far was the Star Ocean 2 remake, i have yet to try the Dragon Quest remakes tho.
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i bought a 1 & 2 bundle. currently making my way through 1. it's a bit rough around the edges but i'm enjoying it. i'm guessing 2 improves a few things
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>>741912990
I laughed so hard when journos rated it bad for having a lot of worldbuilding and character interaction via dialogue.
Then a few weeks later they praised DeadStranding for having so many eceleb dialogue cutscenes.
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>>741932073
The best version of Live-A-Live is still Touhou-A-Live because it actually puts a lot of meat into the final chapter, making it a bigger part than all the others instead of a quick dungeon.
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>>741937879
>DeadStranding
That's because it's normie bait.
>>741937769
>i'm guessing 2 improves a few things
This is actually a severe understatement from almost the entire fanbase.
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>>741937879
It’s because team asano games have dog shit writing. Octopath 0 has a lot of dialogue but it’s all over the top juvenile crap
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>>741938690
Maaaaaaarbelous
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It’s a gem
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>>741936924
3 is great. 1 is way overbloated. 2 is surprisingly great now.

They do expect you to play in release order which changes some things for better or worse.
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>>741932073
I think they all have unique appeal, depending on your tastes
Don't pick Triangle Strategy if you have a short attention span or a distate for slow political intrigue
Don't pick Live a Live if you want a lot of bang for your buck
Don't pick OT2 if you like very intricate dungeons in your JRPG
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>>741938690
0 is probably the best written game they've made. Which says a lot. OT1 might genuinely be the worst written JRPG I've ever played in my life and the only time I've ever just completely given up on a game's writing and just started skipping cutscenes every character's story was so offensively boring, generic and repetitive.
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>>741869045
>looting the same identical healing grape again
Having identical items that are often worthless as 'reward' is beyond ridiculous. Hand crafted items aren't too much asked for.



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