Toby Fox managed to make our king into an EVEN BIGGER loser than he already was. This was supposed to be his chapter, and he spends all of it off-screen. When he finally comes in for the exposition dump, he reveals nothing that we didn't already know. What exactly happened to Dess and the first Dark World? Oops, there goes all my screentime, bye Kris! Then when the Knight rushes in and kidnaps him, the faggot doesn't resist. Even Undyne took some potshots at the Knight, and you're telling me Asgore didn't even try? Chapter 5 is atrocious, and people defending this shit are coping hard.
Aqua
>>741870225Once he's out of the shelter mad dummy will fix him
>>741870357Damn those thighs
>Does nothing>Gets kidnapped by Knight with 0 difficultyHis aura debt tripled.
>>741870357worst secret boss (ch3 doesn't count)
>>741870357Filthy ectroon!You will never have skin or organs!You will never have bones or muscle!You will never be alive!
toby peaked at tldr eat shit faggots
>>741870573Honestly yeah. It's fun and all but the previous 4 secret bosses weren't just fun, they where KINO
Despite being right on most of these, it's easily my favorite chapter. Flowery deserves to be King of /v/.
>>741870045Objectively, what new information did we gain this chapter?>Plants are 'special' darkners that can break the rules>Ralsei can cheat like flowery but chooses not toPlease tell me there's more that I was too brainlet to notice
>>741870830holy shit fesh pince reference
>>741870225Cutequa
>>741870917The game basically revealed its hand by telling us that the shadow crystals are broken dreams. That reveal has shown how the entire rest of the game is going to go
>>741870917literally nothing. it was just romance shipping bullshit and a bajillion rehashed characters with NOTHING driving the plot forward
>>741870830Honestly it's that anon's fault for thinking FRIEND is a real character and ERAM is anything outside of the ch3 minigame
>>741870045Why the fuck did Toby shit on the best Undertale
>>741870357She can't even get her own body to listen....wait
>>741870830Did burgerpants go gay? I picked ice cream guy and after bp screamed at him and ran I couldn't find him
>>741870045the only reason this chapter's writing is so shit and so focused on homo romance instead of advancing the plot in any meaningful way....is because this wasn't written by toby himself, hi dev team is growing larger with fags and colored hair women and they are guilt tripping him into getting to dictate the story too, because toby is an awkward bitch with zero authority or social skill, he just says ok and gives them the whole chapter as a gift for fag pride month
>>741871247>I'm just a dumbfuck retard cowboy I'm going to go kill myself nowdid seem a little pointed
>>741870357I wish mew mew got more set up along the chapter.I don't mind a lighthearted schizo after so many serious ones but she just kinda appears out of nowhere.
>>741870045After getting a good sleep in, I think I finally have a better grasp as to the backlash over Chapter 5 here.4chan is full of actual on-the-spectrum autists, that's no surprise. The thing about autist is that they're (supposedly) good forming (supposed) connections between data points, which is why you see people here get insanely invested in narrative schizotheories.But autists are notoriously awful at understanding anything that relates to social interactions, character personalities and motives, why characters say and do the things they do, so on and so forth - so when actual character changes happen they genuinely don’t notice or understand, and that's why you have so many scorned shippers in the threads that also genuinely don't notice all the red flags around Susie, particularly the way that she's sinking into complete madness and calling the Castle Town closet her "home" now. Most people here would unironically tell you that Susie as of now is literally no different than Susie in Chapter 2, because the game isn't beating them with a mallet saying that Susie is going crazy.
>>741871579She literally says she never wants it to end, like how the fuck aren't they seeing whats happening?
>>741871579Or maybe you just dont want to accept tobys shitty writing, you will see how dumb you sound when the last 2 chapters drop and nobody in the game thinks susie is crazy and the game ends with susie and noelle kissing
How do you like my jarona?
>>741871381I feel like there's no way he could expand his team without risking an insider leaking his magnum opus, surely he's smarter than that
>>741871381>Boot up Chapter 6>It's called chapter 5 again>Nothing from chapter 5 is ever mentioned
>>741871247>>741871453I fucking KNEEL to Toby CHAD if that was his intention
>>741871579Literally what the fuck are you talking about? What 'actual character change' happened to Asgore? He was a stupid loser before, he's still a stupid loser now. This chapter did nothing to convince me otherwise.
>actual chapter boss is more kino than the secret bosshe's just THAT jarona I guess
>>741870357built for sumata
>>741871828But Asgore had his imaginary twink boyfriend in the dark world
>>741870357Body ghost double blowjob
>>741871828The experience of having a despy obsess and lust over him taught him to respect wahmen.
>>741870357The double blow jobs she will give will be great
>>741871579autistic obsessed incel waifufags will literally have the worst reading comprehension of any story, it's why you have so many people who genuinely have zero thoughts on the story besides who Kris McSelfinsert fucks
>tell mew mew your flirting was a prank>the DEVICE flips outuh, the fuck was that?
Flowery was fun, the characters were silly, the weird route was pretty fuckin weird, the gameplay additions were fun and overall I enjoyed the chapter BUT NOTHING FUCKING HAPPENED STORYWISE OHHH BRO THE FESTIVAL IS COMING OHHH WATCH OUT THE FESTIVAL IS WHEN EVERYTHING CHANGES OHHHH AND FUCKING NOTHING HAPPENED
>>741872046Do not lie to your new wife anon
>>741871979Only to get raped by the Knight anyway, so we won't even get to see any payoff for it until MAYBE chapter 7, if Toby remembers to write it.
>>741871718He's so focused on not having leaks happen that he's ignored the red flags of hiring someone from the skullgirls team who fucking kicked MikeZ off the team. It's only a matter of time.
>>741872006>>741871963>Pink double postingDid she split again
>>741872067Your dad being the vague post king is hilarious
me the cia replaces another artist
>Walk me home>Not my real home, I live in the school closet nowThis bitch is doomed next chapter
>>741870225
>>741871708You're a genuine retard if you think thats gonna be the ending
>>741872172Suselle is doomed yuri. Susie is getting sealed in the dark world.
>>741871579notice how all these damage control posts use the same language and always call out the site's native users not sus at all just the same dude samefagging 900 posts trying to push the same narrative making the same posts that are incomprehensible to any normal person
>>741871852he's literally the most insufferable character in the whole game so farhis whole personality is that he's better than the heroes and better than everybody and that he's going to give asgore the sloppiest blowjob his wife could neverall he does is repeat shitty dad jokes and and act all fagotted and smug while condescending everyone he is mettaton if mettaton was gayer and unfunny with zero interesting plot points, I never a character to just shut the fuck up and die more in my life
>>741870357How the fuck do I dodge the bombs?
>>741872172Her real home is a fucking dump, I would live in the dark world if I had a whole as bed and a ton of people who love and cared for me with unlimited food
>>741871852man i hope hell is real because you deserve to suffer beyond eternity
I just think it's mighty curious how there hasn't been a single dessfag post since the chapter released.
>>741872323Damn ralsei what did he do to make you so mad
>>741870045What's the general consensus on this chapter now? I now /v/ hates it, but now I'm seeing people on Twitter hate it. They also really fucking hate Flowery
I've only been playing the game casually as the chapters come out. Haven't really participated in any discussions and shit. I have no idea what people are talking about with this "weird route". Could I get a non-spoiler-y hint on how to find the relevant stuff? Is it worth replaying the game to see it?
>>741871828He realized that nobody blamed him for Dess's disappearance but himself and that if he wants to be happy again, he needs to stop being schizophrenic, be there for Kris who is clearly not fucking okay right now, and stop being weird about Toriel.
>>741872472Aqua cunny takes priority and most of the dess posting was just wishful thinking.
>>741872372Good ideaLet's never leave the dark world, never seal the dark fountain
>>741872304>the site's native users after this place got raped and gaped by sharty i don’t know who these are anymore
>>741872472Because she more than likely fucking dead at the bottom of the lake
>>741872372she's fucking obssessed with the dark worldthis obssession over playing with toys the came to life is what''s going to doom everyone into an endless nightbecause when the time comes to seal the school fountain and prevent the final tragedy she'll refuse and kris will just say whatever, and everyone fucking dies
>>741871852Both Mew Mew and GODery were great. Cool fights and entertaining characters.
>>741872535Think most people are just pissed with the lack of any narrative progress after the fandom whipping themselves into a frenzy about how chapter 5 was going to reveal everything at the festival and then it just turned into an entire chapter of Asgore doing nothing but vagueposting.In a vacuum it's a great chapter with fun characters and gimmicks but man nothing happens whatsoever, could have literally just went to chapter 6 and started it off with "Asgore is missing" and you'd end up with the same result.
>>741872573Ohhhhhhhhhh, and how does he plan to be there for Kris now? Hm? He's just making his dumb idiot traitor child do extra work to save his bum ass after he got kidnapped without even trying to fight back.
>>741872535You have to wait a minimum until like Monday to get a genuine take on the game anon.
>>741871579>>741871716>>741871828>>741871852>>741872026>>741872492>>741872535>>741872654did you actually kill fox or is he just locked in a room somewhere like kojima for the phantom pain?
>>741872536In chapter 2, walk left once you get Noelle. Take a look at her spells and notice what it does when she defeats an enemy with it.That's how you get it going.
>>741871579>>741871697That animation of Susie slinking back into the closet at the end was chilling. She's one bad dark world experience from a breakdown. Whatever she saw in that final prophecy is haunting her and she's desperately trying not to think about it.
>>741872743Anon what the fuck are you talking about
>>741872743I thought the staff put a spam filter on retarded massquoting
>>741872654My fucking HERO
>>741871852>Forcefed suselle slop like it's CIA torture>The festival thats been built up the whole game is a short walking sim with no relevance or birdly dates>Learn literally fucking nothing about the plot>Zesty blue nigga for dei, whiny enby bitch who's just Alphys 2.0>Shitty 'member undertale??' secret boss that has no story connection and is just fanservice>Toby didn't even want to bother writing a weird route dark world for this one so he phoned it home and said we won't even get shit for chapter 6Flowery must be fucking ripped with how hard he carries the chapter. It was only enjoyable when he was on screen and I agree with the notion that he was just a better Tenna (who was a worse spamton.)
Anyone else notice how Noelle seems to be afraid of Bratty?
Getting a ton of art
>>741872706What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you blaming Asgore for getting kidnapped? Kris is the one working with the Knight, retard.
>>741872535normies will just consoom the slop like always, if they expect to like something they will, and will call it "peak" or say "toby cooked" or some zoomer shit
>>741872654I just know you're the brownest ESL
>>741872492kek
>>741870830Burgerpants calling the ice cream guy a FAGGOT and telling everyone fuck off was probably the only good part of the carnival.
So Kris is planting to kill themselves right? We've seen how much he both sets up Suselle but that it's also making him miserable. It only makes sense if he's planning to not be around by the end.
>>741870357>asgore always talks to his flowers>Mad dummy is always possessing mew mew so is by proxy spending time listening to asgore talk about his dayIt's pretty much canon
sustingus
>>741872912why is she a cyclops here?
>>741872912>CyclopsTriclops is better
>>741872963I'm saying that the pitiful 'development' Asgore gets isn't worth shit because he can't act on any of it anymore. He gets kidnapped in the lamest way imaginable and I'm supposed to care about his so-called growth? Fuck off. He is a loser, end of story.
>>741870225Post her sleeves
>>741873010This chapter got closer to actual Asgore x MM than I expected, even if not by much.
>>741873060Always was
>>741873005I saw someone point out that the seeds Kris took from Flowery's soil are likely toxic. I don't see Kris planting a garden anytime soon.
>>741873029lmao
>>741873005Can he even do that? wouldn't we just force him to respawn?
>>741872835this shit was so blatantly made by someone else and the damage control is insane. it feels like when they ran out of books to copy for the game of thrones show and the writing immediately dropped off a cliff. it feels like the person who wrote chapter 5 doesn't even play the game
>asgore would rather fuck around with some documents he can't read than play with this cuteyHe deserves everything that happens to hi
>>741872649the ending will be another danganronpa V3, won't it...
I didn't realize how many hints there are in this Chapter of Kris crushing on Susie. This just makes me hate the whole noelle date even more. Humiliation ritual
How the fuck does the weird route shit factor into the game having one ending? it has to be some vague fucking ending for this to still end the same way as the normal route
>>741873005You literally kill yourself and Noelle in ch5. The sword route even hints at this with crossing the sea to use yourselves up
>Cuckslop
>>741873167Maybe Kris does it while we're outside of the body and that prevents us from respawning and we're just stuck floating around.
>>741872908>>The festival thats been built up the whole game is a short walking sim with no relevance or birdly datesthis is the part that pisses me off the most, somehow chapter 4's light world segment was more interactive and interesting than what we got yesterday
>>741870225I'm happy the firsk/chara avatarnigger now has some real humans to finally be on topic with
why do these chapters take so long to make when they are so short
>>741871579See https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741795518/#741806613https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741795518/#741806747I disliked it because the writing was bad, not mainly because I had fags all up in my face.I like the schizo theories but I'm also in here for a decent story and fun characters.This chapter had little to none of it, outside of Aqua and Flowery being neat.
I really liked the gameplay but from a plot standpoint this chapter was a disappointmentZERO new info on the knightZERO resolution to the shipping. Toby you can't have your krusie cake and eat it tooZERO reveals about the dess event
Berdley would hate seth
Are lyrics in the secret boss song real? Where is the translation if so
>>741873246Actually if i remember correctly the prophecy in Undertale said something like "the underground will go empty" which does happen in both pacifist and genocide but under a wildly different context so it's probably something like that
>>741873246>one ending?c'mon now
>>741872649I dunno. The prophecy says both worlds will be saved, so the cost can't be one of the world.Why don't they just make one huge dark world below ground away from the sunlight and everyone else where all awakened darkners can gather? It'd be an under- Oh.
This should have been the chapter where Susie figured out Kris is a little scheming rat and loses her shit. That moment when she realized Kris was the only one behind Asgore's store when the dark fountain was made shouldn't have been swept under the rug and should have been the thing that made her slowly start nooticing things until she confronts you at the very end of the chapter. Tobaniel only has 2 chapters left, what the fuck is waiting for??
calling the straight ship weird... and for what
>>741870225>just made fanon gremlin chara into an actual character>still the best thing in chapter 5
>>741873468Depends on how good she is at games
>>741873468Think the opposite because he would have a fan
>>741873441This is the biggest problem. The chapter was fun and charming, but taking this long to still vaguepost is fucking insaneIt serves no ones benefit. The game is both written to be played in one chunk AND bait theories for years on end. The people who wait for the game and the people who play each chapter day 1 are both getting respectively fucked
>>741873530I wouldn't be surprised if Susie was already told Kris was the one making fountains by Flowery. She'll mention this in chapter 6 as a joke.
>>741873530>wait a minute>do you think whoever set up the dark fountain went through the back of the store>and you came out of the back of the store>...did you see anyone Kris?chapter 5 was a mistake
>>741873642Berdley would not see him as a friend or equal but as a subject
>>741872535Wait until youtubers and influencers release their opinions about it so they can brainwash the fandom to change their minds and think that slop was good.
>>741871852people saw this dude and really thought the chapter boss was going to be asgore
Really fringe complaint but I feel like there needs to be more visual indicators for how far along you are in the chapters, shit feels LONG
>>741873530>only has 2 chapters leftGiven how short chapter 1 is, this is almost a third of the game. We have plenty of time. You don't get the big plot reveals in Undertale until after Asgore, the ostensible final boss. Toby likes to leave this shit hanging until the very end for a grand finale.
This was legit a filler chapterWhat has actually changed since chapter 4 end? nothing
So now that 24hrs have passed and you had some time to sleep on it, what would you rate chapter 5? Do you think you'll view it differently once every chapter is released?
>>741873530Sir please understand it's not plot convenient yet for Susie to be questioning why kris is opening fountains or why ralsei is actually an op god tier who holds backNow sit down and eat your steaming pile of suselle
>>741873246it obviously won't have only one endingare you guys retarded
>>741871852FOR FUCKING REAL BRO. Like how is this even possible? It feels like Toby had to compensate the epic chapter boss having his own soul mode, amazing theme and overall coolness by making the secret boss pure niggercoal.
>>741873725>himBait
>>741871963>>741872006Is this the same artist from fields of mistria? The art style looks similar
>>741873756I liked it more than 1 and 3, less than 2 and 4
>>741873725No he wouldn't. Berdly is a nice boy.
>>741873839I don't fucking care about your weird slapfight you were having with another anon dude that is just the pronoun that came to my brain
>>741873671>to be played in one chunkimagine falling out of ch4 with all this tension build up and hype and then ch5 is just a dating sim. The episodic experience is already bad but on a sequential play through people are going to die from whiplash
>>741873781It’s all going blow up near the end of chapter 6 and goat boy is finally going start showing off all his powerful magic
really wish we could have left this gender shit back in the early 2010s
>>741873237The third wheeling was so painful, I was begging for it to end>BERDLY>DON'T LEAVE ME HERE>I'LL DO ANYTHING>I'LL BE YOUR PLAYER 2>BERDLYYYYYYYYYY
I haven't been able to check my phone all day. What's the USanons' verdict on the chapter?
>>741873756i'm gonna be calling it a filler chapter all the way to the end i'm afraideven if toby pulls off some grand keikaku with suselle's stilted writing just being a sign of susie going batshit and going fully into escapism i'm still gonna be wondering why i had to go through a whole egregious chapter of it where nothing fucking happens instead of condensing it into one light world segment
Little Japanese brat that desperately needs correction.
>>741870045The festival was easily the biggest letdown for me. With how much it was built up, I really thought it was going to be this huge moment. Like, maybe there would be some big reveal, a disaster, or something that completely changes the story. But then it just sort of happens and ends, and I was left thinking, "Oh so Asgore did not cause a huge scene?"The Susie and Noelle stuff also felt so weird to me. Their relationship feels like it moved way too fast. I know it’s been years in real life, but in the game it’s only been a few days. It feels like they skipped over a bunch of development and suddenly they’re super close. Susie in general felt a bit off in some scenes too, though I’m not totally sure why. I'm just hopping that there is some purpose behind this and that Toby is not just thinking with his dick but I am not quite sureThat being said, I still liked parts of the chapter. The dark world was fun, the music was great, the fights were really good, and some of the humor still worked. I liked the flowers too. The whole idea of family, comfort, and escaping into fantasy instead of dealing with real life was honestly pretty interesting. I just wish they had more time to leave an impact.So overall, I thought it was okay. Not terrible, but probably my least favorite chapter so far, after the Titan fight and all the prophecy stuff from the last chapter, this one felt kind of awkwardly placed, too lighthearted.I think it would’ve worked better before the church chapter.I mean at least it wasn't a Asgore humilation chapter
You know what this is? It's the revenge of the yuriniggersThey complained about "queerbaiting" for years and now they make games purely to do the same shit back to us. It's hetbaiting. He's invented reverse yuribaiting the furry piece of shit.FUCK YOU TOBY
>>741873749>What has actually changed since chapter 4 end? nothingI will admit that Susie going off the deep end and considering a storage closet imaginationlandland 'home' to sleep in is a good development. Trying to take her to your house, or her apartment first until we get the hint about what she really means was genuinely good writing. but outside that yeah we got nothing. The story would be better though if we got a little more focus on her troubled home and adjusting to normal life and less of her being a static object for tobys lebanese fetish
>>741874046The usual shit posters are shitposting about pronoun shit but over allAqua cunny and flowery bro
>>741874082>Susie in general felt a bit off in some scenes too, though I’m not totally sure why. She’s clearly becoming mentally ill but it’s not as in-your-face as Noelle
>>741873893worst chapter so far, ridiculous that it's this late in the game and it's still vague posting shit without moving the plot forwardit's going to become even more evident once all chapters are released and you have zero delay going from the high stake ending of chapter 4 to chapter 5's filler
>>741873910Yea you better Seth is a QUEEN
Okay, so please help me out here so I'm not misremembering.In Ch4 during the talk in the closet wasn't Susie visibly put off by how Noelle kind of kept putting Kris down when talking about their memories together? What happened to that?
What would you want her to turn into?
>>741872908>dei whiny enby bitch who's just Alphys 2.0You're a faggot retard. Seth is easily the hottest character so far in the tobyverse
>>741874089Funny how she start to actively wear a bow and find stuff cute so you can’t just make her wear a dress anon
>You knew Kris was a victim>You knew Ralsei was a rules-lawyering bot>You knew Susie had main character syndrome and put her own happiness first>You knew Asgore would stay a cuck despite himself>You knew you wouldn’t see Dess>You knew you wouldn’t learn shit about the prophecy>You knew Toby would push the dogshit lesbian agenda>You knew Noelle was the only one who trusted you, and the only one who backed you up against Spamton NEO>You knew Noelle was the only one with free will>You knew good old Spamton was right>You knew all it took was one [HYPERLINK BLOCKED] to make her happy>You know only (YOU) can get out of this simulationNo more wasting time, anon. Embrace the Weird Route. Take a deep breath, cross that lake with Noelle, and get ready to show this videogame who actually has free will.Who is FREE.
>>741874219Just a figment of your imagination, chud.Stop being such a fucking nazi for a change and be better.
>>741874235I don't like this fanart. It looks really lame considering how cool that enemy looks in-game
>>7418737564 >> 2 >> 1 > 3 > 5Overall chapter 5 is maybe a 3/10, and all three points come from the flowers. It's otherwise not super interesting and frankly it's a giant waste of time, about as boring as the chapter 3 minigames but without the sword route or the awesome Knight encounter. The weird route lasts a whole 15 minutes and then you're shit out of luck waiting for chapter 7. Also I remember literally none of the music from chapter 5 whereas I still hum TV World regularly.
>>741873756I'd say it's up there. I loved it overall. It's probably my favorite chapter since chapter 2. I might even like it more than chapter 2, because the gameplay gimmicks are more fun. But it might be just recency bias talking.
>>741874338crossing the lake will get the bad end thoughyou're missing out on a shard. true weird route progression happens when you "abandon" it in the lake
>Kris battles the all powerful lieutenant of the Evil Emperor>small rocks are levitating>Flowey: AAAAAAAAAAAH Kurisu-San our battle will be legendary!!>quick cut to Susie on the sidelines>No-oelle-k-kun ughu>quick cut back to Kris drawing his swordhonestly if you real the whole chapter as a parody of anime it's better than it seems on the surface. I'm sure that's not what they intended but lmao
>>741870045>Gaster shows up in chapter 7 and starts talking about gloobiness or something >lancer comes out of nowhere and hits him with a car and he blows up like the explosion.gifFor some reason I know this will happen. Toby doesn’t know how to wrap up the plot so he’s going to give the fanbase a huge middle finger fuck you ending and his tranny dicksucking fanbase will just say “lol why do you even care bro??? Wow you just wanted a super serious plot? That’s not what this game is about bro”
Sorry if this was posted, apparently this is what happens when you try to ride with Noelle on an aborted Weird Route (from Chapter 4)https://x.com/disdwayen/status/2070096737272729639
>>741874338God fucking damn it man Spamton has to be the most kino character i've seen in a while. What a prefect way to start the weird route
>>741874370the other thing i will say is that i think the level/world design in 5 is extremely bad, it's a bunch of cliffs, corridors and castle ramparts
>>741873756It's really good. The platforming is a lot more fun than the climbing in 4, and even that was done better in 5. Loved the characters and the music was great too. I don't like rating chapters but this is probably my favorite.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55JVwZdjtA
>>741874235>Kris comes to the closet >Pulls this thing aside to his room>Demands she transform into Noelle >Takes all his sexual frustrations out on her >Does it again the next day this time as Susie.Pays to be the boss
>>741874219silly anon, that was clearly just her reaction to finding out kris and noelle weren't actually together!why does she still want to go with kris AND noelle to the festival? well uhhhhhhhhh
>>741874315
>>741874338I hated Noelle when she first appeared and that hatred has grown with every chapter that passed.I will probably do weird route, but only to watch her get USED UP
1 > 2(weird route) > 2/3 > 4 >>>>>>>>>> 5
>>741874219that was just her default sprite in that scene.
https://charts.youtube.com/charts/TrendingVideos/usDeltarune is in
The only good part of this chapter was the weird route. >all that suselle and gay shit throughout the chapterGlad I pirated this shit and never gave that fag Toby a single cent.If the prophecy brainwashing theory turns out to be true I will however KNEEL forever to the dog.
Why the FUCK were Susie and Noelle so mean to Kris at the festival!!!!
>>741874163I don't think she handled seeing that last prophecy panel as well as she let on. Her behavior makes sense if she's trying really hard to keep her mind off of something incredibly stressful, and ralsei talking about how she used to act and saying kris shouldn't think of her when she goes offscreen are pretty obvious hints to me that he knows something is going fucksided with her. It's also clear that ralsei is a lying little shit that's still holding out on us.>STOP PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING YOU'RE NOT!>Oh? Do you want to tell them what's so wrong about that?not to mention the fucking fire magic out of nowhere
>>741874483big cope is that the abort strange route leads to something meaningful, but im expecting its just a bunch of flavour text into normal route
>>741874603>the prophecy brainwashing theoryqrd?
>>741874315When this + the dressup stuff was happening I was convinced you would actually need to have the right stats to make ships happen. Theres a ribbon that raises your "elegance" from an earlier chapter so I was planning on minmaxing shit until I found out it was literally nothingWhat are the chances that the festival was actually going to be a bigger gameplay section similar to ch3 minigames but got cut due to the backlash of ch3 padding
>>741873756It is by far the worst chapter and it having it having the best gameplay of the bunch does not redeem how awful the story was.I am convinced that anyone not rating it rock bottom physically cannot compute that this chapter takes place immediately after chapter 4 finishes and not years apart.
>>741873072>>741873060Seems she can be both because she is bad with eyes lol
>>741874506It's a creation that came about by chance despite Toby. He thought this character wouldn't be popular, yet every single line of dialogue is both prophetic and iconic.
>>741874483of course, as expected kris is NEVER going to ride that fucking ferris wheel with noelle
>>741874046Toby should never cook again, actual awful fill>Don't have him write romance, I feel awkward for Kris>The festival got loads of build-up only for it to be a SoL skit>Asgore wasn't humiliated but he was also completely missing from his own dark world>Kill every single flower except maybe Aqua>All the hype from chapter 4 is gone>We already had chapters 2 and 3, why are we still doing fancy filler stuff>Chapters 6 and 7 have a Herculean task to carry this bloated story nowI would have been okay with a lighter chapter - but not an empty one.>>7418737564 >> 1 >= 3 > 2 >>> 5I will probably hate this chapter more as time passes. Every mistake that happens with chapters 6 and 7, I will think "Man, it'd be nice if chapter 5 had done something to help them out instead of dicking around with fan OCs that come and go right afterwards"
>>741874746Kriselle was always a fucking pipe dream. Krusie is unlikely, Kriselle is fucking impossible
>>741874338Spamton should have been eclipsed by now. It's actually sad he's still so impactful when so much more should have been on his level or matched his vibe
>>741874338i've never played the games but i'm legitimately interested in how the story unfolds especially the weird route since it's the one that's clearly trying to break out of whatever the fuck they are trapped ingiven how Sans only has the "don't forget" picture in one specific route only is interesting as well and THAT ending will probably be more interesting than the ending the main game is cooking up which seems to be "escapism bad"
>>741874671cursed two-eyed gremlin
>>741874834he was eclipsedhardby tennaspamtonfags please go
>>741871247Based Toby killing all Yellowfags
>>741874891Kissable forehead
>>741874902You could have said eclipsed by the Knight and I'd at least have respected you
>>741870357The weakest schizo boss in terms of interesting but easily top 2 in terms of how creative the fight is
According to the prophecy, wasn't a field of pink and gold supposed to go ablaze in jealousy or something I was expecting his shop to go on fire. In fact there was no fire at all. Not really a whole lot on the jealousy angle either.
>>741871247it's the ol' new vegas treatment (funny how they both involve cowboys)
>>741871453AND he's gay.
>>741874680Get blown up nerd.
>>741874650something along the lines of susie's being brainwashed/puppeted into fulfilling her role in the prophecy. Ralsei/Flowerly/Weird route Noelle talked about how the whole world is a game, everything is predetermined and they all have roles they must fulfilSpecifically calling it prophecy brainwashing is a big of cope to explain the shift in Susie's character in chapter 5
>>741874976She could have been interesting if she had more than 90 seconds of screentime before her fight
>>741874746>he doesn’t knowVote Kris and Noelle for king and queen. Try again
>>741870830Do you really need clues to ERAM? Haven't you realized by now that it's Seam? He's on the back of Asriel's computer where you do the Mantle minigame.
>Working my way through all of the previous threadsI'll catch up any day now.
>>741870045Mad Mew Mew being the final secret boss was the single worst thing in this chapter by far. I thought it'd be a red flower and we'd get to fight an alternate universe version of Frisk. Nope, fight Mad Mew Mew (again) with some of the most tedious battle mechanics with a shitty dating sim attached and obnoxious Hatsune Miku music.
>>741871453I found that whole sequence funny. One of the best moments in the game for sure.
>>741870357Is she the only legitimate case of schizophrenia in the secret bosses?
>>741875132You should stop using this website and return to reddit.com
I expected Asgore to be more involved with the conspiracy. He turned out to be so clueless
>>741875160She wants us bro
>>741873530I wonder if it's part of Susie clearly indulging so hard in the escapism aspect of the "Dark World" in spite of everything. I saw the last scene as a rugpull of sorts:>You think Susie's thinking about actually trying to solve the mystery with help instead of just letting the narrative play out>And then she says to bring along Noelle out of all fucking peopleI can see her attitude towards Kris being willful ignorance of not wanting to acknowledge the shady shit they've been doing behind her back.
>>741875132Flowery is already a grown up Frisk.
>>741875132>I came up with a baseless schizotheory and it was wrong therefore the game is badneck yourself
Was Aqua the best part of chapter 5?
>>741874746>on an aborted Weird Route You can ride with her if you're on the normal route instead of having gaslit her previously.
Its cool guys. Only like 5 years til the next one.
>>741875129Most of the early ones are room posting and raging about woke
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>>741875160Each secret boss is exploring a different kind of derangement or delusion. Her mental illness is a deep abiding desire for cock
>>741874902tenna is like a flanderized version of spamton
>>741874650The newest cope is that all the abysmal dogshit writing is actually awful on purpose because everyone is mindcontrolled to act according to the prophecy that makes everyone gay and stupid.Please do not point out that Toby pulled the exact same dogshit hamfisted faggot romance you are forced to be the third wheel for in Undertale, it's really bad for the narrative.
>>741875132I agree. Dude but it's le heckin nostalgia chapter. No fuck off Toby we already had Ch3.
>>741875207
>>741875132>the final secret bosshow stupid do you have to be to think there are no more secret bosses just because this was the last shadow crystal
While he didnt do much in the chapter i do genuinely feel bad for him rather than out of pity. Mans gone through a lot and destroyed himself in the process. >but he didnt resist le knight!!I mean what the fuck are you supposed to do in his situation? Getting grabbed outta nowhere by the monster of fuck-your-shit mountain and put in a bubble there really isnt much.But the fact whatever happened no one thought it was his fault but it ate him alive regardless, I get that, especially if its a tragedy that we are thinking of (however with Weird route and some lines in that...im not so sure anymore)I think Toby handled him better than I expected, i expected his shit to get worse but i was pleasantly suprised. Now Asgore, fuck that twink
>>741874860>i've never played the games but i'm legitimately interested in how the story unfolds Just like every Deltarune fan!
>>741874756Exactly. I thought it was completely out of left field after all the buildup from the previous chapters. They introduced concrete developments that actually moved the story forward, whereas Chapter 5 gets lost in a caricatured, almost grotesque portrayal of relationships without even throwing us a bone in terms of the overall narrative.I'm fully on board with the Weird Route, so I hope Toby commits to it completely. He can paint me as a horrible monster if he wants, as long as it's more satisfying than this awful chapter.
Its pretty unanimously obvious that Toby didn't write this Chapter, yeah? I remember him saying something like how the project slowly isn't 100% fully his vision anymore, because of now having to manage a team. This feels like the first very obvious example of it.
>>741874603I dislike that theory because it would mean that all we got regarding each character's true selves is just superficial.
TENFEET TWENTY
>>741875241Yes.
>>741870225The humanfag was the only one to win this chapter
>>741873671Tobert made a whole second Mike scene to tell you fags to shut up already. It'll be out when it's out.
xitterfags are unironically better at interpreting this story because they don't take every bad thing that happens to Kris as a personal attack. /v/ is self-inserting so hard that they can't even tell what's going on.
>>741875132I'm glad I didn't have to buy the switch version of Undertale just to fight this character.
>>741873756It's a bit lukewarm. Doesn't quite feel like it continues chapter 1+2 or 3+4 cleanly. I think it's "fun" but it doesn't feel like it's an intentional distraction like 3 did, nor does it the time for another chapter to "just be", so it comes across as out of place.But at the same time, the number of ch1 callbacks couldn't have happened any sooner than ch5 without being gratuitous, nor could something like an adult being truly aware of dark worlds.I'm not sure where it'll resolve in the end. Maybe dead center of all the other chapters.
>>741875360I started noticing things felt off in Chapter 2.Why I never finished it. I prefer Toby when he's largely left to his own devices.
>>741875381MY FUCKING HERO
>>741875405nigger no one is taking it like a personal attackno one wants to play as a cuck
>>741875327Only 1 thing is different: he keeps inserting Kris/Susie offramps. That was not an option in Undertale and I really don't know where he's going with it. Suselle is all but locked in after this chapter but you still get to spend the entire dark world pining after Susie.What's the endgame? Just so he can shit on (You) for not bowing to the canon ship later?
>>741875405imagine this gives us a pass to corrupt kris in ch6 despite the regular weird route sidestepping it. a kris route if you will
>>741875132I was of the same opinion but it definitely grew on me after a while. It really wasn't as long as I thought it'd take. Besides, Mew Mew's situation offers a great window into Kris's own relationship with the player:>The ghost tries to possess Mew Mew and find a new body and then realizes that body is sentient with its own wants and desires>Eventually needs to come to a compromise with her and both of them learn to love each otherI just hope that this doesn't mean Kris has to get hitched with (You)
>/v/ is complaining while /utg/ is getting a cunnyfag influxI honestly expected the opposite
Is every thread just going to be the same spergs repeating all their posts from the previous one to all the same replies like last chapter? Can I safely go back to ignoring them until 6 or will you actually talk about something new for a change?
>>741870917>Explained Shadow Crystals>Explained Black Shards>Showed us the possibility of a Lightner fusing with a Darkner if they are harmonious (totally not foreshadow for Kris and Ralsei)>Showed us plenty more evidence of Rudy being the knight>Plants are both Lightners and Darkners since they are living beings that merely gain consciousness in the Dark World, reaping benefits of both>We finally get the answer as to what Sans picture was in his basement
>>741875521>no one is taking it like a personal attack>[TAKING IT AS A PERSONAL ATTACK]
>>741875010>>741874947>he hate kinoSad
>New patch where Flowery got fucking nerfedBros
>>741875207>>741875338Is there a specific name for this fetish of"Captured in a horny body"
>>741874902Tenna is basically just Spamton if his focus was purely on maintaining/regaining his popularity with none of the deeper existential/free-will stuff. Sometimes, giving a character a more singular focus CAN improve them, but in Tenna's case it just made him feel like Spamton's reheated leftovers.
>>741875514
>>741875575Final boss being harder than the secret boss is a pretty huge fuckupI wouldn't have solved it with nerfs but it did need to be solved
>>741870045QUIT FUCKING SPOILING SHIT YOU BITCH ASS CUNTS HOLY SHIT. FUCK ALL OF YOU.
>>741875575Only if you lose to him multiple times in the same session. If you're that insistent about fighting pre-nerf Flowerly, just restart the game every time you lose.
How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>741872323>his whole personality is that he's better than the heroes and better than everybody and that he's going to give asgore the sloppiest blowjob his wife could neverYou talk like anyone in the main cast has a good personality outside of maybe Susie
where is my awkward nerdy gamergf who the fuck is this
>>741875349>Getting grabbed outta nowhere by the monster of fuck-your-shit mountain and put in a bubble there really isnt much.What a lame fucking excuse. Write the story differently, retard, so that he actually can put up a resistance. He would still get fraud accusations but it could be easier to fend them off if he at least made a good showing before getting removed from the story completely. Why the fuck is Flowery the one that got to clash with the Knight? Are you fucking kidding me?
>chapter 7 side b starts with just the soul eminating light in pitch black darkness>slowly move your way to your discarded vessel
WHEN THE FUCK IS CHAPTER 6 COMING OUT
>>741870045Are you ready for the massacre? Breaking the game so hard you can access dark world mechanics in the light world
>>741874651You really saw the fucking duck costume and thought it would mean anything at all? Are you people really this delusional?
>>741875557>Showed us plenty more evidence of Rudy being the knightIt did no such thing. It hard confirmed that it cannot be him.
>>741875575Not surprised desu some of his attacks come out fast as fuck later on
>>741875639>going on social media before playing the game
>>741875660>how do you respond to bait without sounding mad?you don't
>>741875405i never played deltatroon, i just shitpost
>>741875660Idc
>>741875639You gotta be actually braindead if you're looking at these threads expecting not to get spoiled.
>>741875557>human, I remember you're ice cream's discount...>ice cream's machine broke...
>>741875698try not to get too pissed off niggysave some of your anger for the other random, innocuous posts you need to seethe at
>>741875549/Utg/ don't play the games so it's expected
>>741874650>The prophecy of DELTA RUNE never changes>The ending of DELTARUNE never changes>But the characters can>The original story was about Kris and Noelle>Susie was the Berdley in this timeline>Kris & Catti contacted HIM to connect (You) to Kris>Kris is now FREE>Susie replaces Kris in the prophecy>The dark world is pitched as Kris' escapist fantasy, but it's now clearly Susie's>Susie cannot cope with learning the truth>She refuses to go home to her actual apartment and lives in the school closet playing with toys>Things start to warp around Susie, feeding her delusions>The prophecy bends reality, as The Girl (Noelle) must find love. >Susie leans into delusion rather than face reality, the puppet has willingly put on its strings>This is why genuine interactions and relationships (Platonic or otherwise) are rebuked at every turn for an overnight "Tell don't show" romance plot>This is why Catti refers to Susie as an "Invader" and "The Enemy" >Susie's reality distortion is changing everything. >Susie's Delusion is why she doesn't question meta mechanics like the ACT menu>The romance writing is forced because the prophecy unironically forces it because it has years of childhood friendship to make up for in a few days>This is why Chapter 5's writing sucked, it was literally forced. >Just compare the quality to when you vote Kris and Noelle for king and queen, show her, then ride the Ferris wheel with herThis is my cope and I am sticking to it until the bitter end.
>>741875557>We finally get the answer as to what Sans picture was in his basementI saw that mention multiple times but I missed it. Could you briefly explain?
>>741875132I liked the fight and the music.
>>741870045TOBY IS A HACK
>>741874691The weird route can only happen because of him. I love this evil bastard like you wouldn't believe
>>741873756Imagine chapter 3 but without 4 to fall back on that’s 5. The suselle shit just adds salt onto the wound
>>741875660xhe's not wrong
Surprised the FemKris guy hasn't come storming back with how much Aqua is meant to parallel kid Kris. Maybe he hasn't played the chappy yet
>>741875557>>We finally get the answer as to what Sans picture was in his basementI can't recall what the description of that picture was, I remembered it as being a photograph of sans and people frisk didn't recognize, was it really just a picture of people frisk didn't know?When was the shadow Crystal thing revealed? Did I speed read or miss something optional?
>>741875572Toby hates it and that's a good thing.
btw is Kris dressed as Franziska von Karma?
>>741875551It has been like this with every single chapter tho
>>741875698do you intentionally word all your posts to sound like an outsider or are you really just incapable of fitting in? if it's the latter then PLEASE go post somewhere else
>>741875891Yes, Kris can also be dressed as Edgeworth
>>741875859Who are those fine bitches to the side?
Something I haven't seen much discussion aboutThe music was not too good. I mean, good compared to most games, but the worst of the deltarune offerings so far. Field of Hopes and Dreams got reused and it was ass. The japanese sakura kind of music also bores me.
>>741875891Yeah, he can also be edgeworth.
>>741870045hes the nortubel of deltarune
>>741875891Yes and Ralsei is dressed as Trucy
all the mysterious buildup going back to chapter 2 just for toby to say "konichiwa let's take a break to learn about japanese culture!!! ^_^... nani? you wanted story content? >_< fine here's 10 mintutes of snowgrave" did piss me off a bit
>>741875405it's a fucking video gameunlike a book or a movie where the main character is just a character, in games (You) are the main character, that's how games work. have you never played a game before?
>>741875132Mew Mew is not the final secret boss. He's still waiting
>>741874650Suselle so so unfathomably dogshit that people have convinced themselves that gaster brainwashed Susie into liking Noelle
>>741875859Some people mentioned it but the main theorists haven't popped back in, yet.
Can somebody give me a quick rundown of the Weird Route? Just finished the normal chapter. Apparently people here don't like it too much for some reason.
>>741875891The bow should be a dead giveaway but maybe the rest of the outfit is legally distinct.
Want some REAL schizo knowledge"Susie's idea"s are just the prophecy working directly through her
Someone should draw seth and berdly kissing
>>741875793In Undertale, there's a basement under Papyrus and Sans' house with a drawing on the workbench. It's a badly drawn picture of three people smiling. We get no further info on it. In Deltarune chapter 5, Sans makes Susie fill out a punch card by having her draw herself, Kris, and Noelle. Pretty much everyone believes these two drawings are one in the same, thus connecting the two universes.
>>741871852>literally Kittan>but fighting him as the anti spiralthis chapter was fucking kino
>>741875551It's sampling bias, yeah. Most people who liked the chapter don't make it a priority to come to /v/ and write walls of text about how much they liked it.
3 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 4
Is insane how much zero fucks I give about anything that happens in the normal route, even if the end of Deltarune sucks I'm going to miss this side of the plot
I thought the sunset scene was really cute
>>741875224The fucking Chara with pink and yellow eyes kek
Please understand, she's finally understanding what FREEDOM means!
where is the selfcest
>>741875793When you get ice cream from Sans during the festiival he has Susie draw a picture of herself, Kris, and Noelle on a punch card so that he'll remember to give them a discount next time. (if in chapter 3 you agreed to Ralsei's request to buy an ice cream for Susie and tell her it's from him, she also draws Ralsei on the card)
What really gets my almonds roasting is that the lake scene makes it really blatant that Noelle’s fixation on Susie or Kris really doesn’t have anything to do with each other, and I assume that’s intentionalLike okay, she’s in love with Susie because she’s kind of “mean” and tough and whatnot, but at the lake she basically spills the beans that she finds Weird Route Kris to be interesting because Kris figured out how to stop being “Kris” and seems pissed that all the other retarded NPCs (figurative and literal) in Hometown haven’t noticed, like there’s some surface Noelle that’s smitten with Susie but there’s an inner Noelle that knows her reality, love interests included, is some kind of kafkaesque railroad track
>>741875360Scott can tard wrangle an entire team into going along with his schizophrenic vision yet Toby can’t manage five troons?
Okay theoryfagsplease explain why Jevil gets mentioned SO much in this chapterHe got referenced like 50 times
>>741875786If this is true I would kneel to Toby and never question him again
>>741876014The weird route takes 20 minutes or less. Trust me, play it yourself.
>>741870045Where does the game explicitly state the prophecy is fucking with Susie and Noelle like I see people saying? It seems like sheer cope and realistically Susie after such a bad life has Noelle as one of the first great things in her life so she huperfocuses on her
>>741875995Yes, I've played Deltarune. That's why I know (you) aren't the main character. Kris is. And you are not Kris. This has been an established fact since chapter 1. The longer you ignore this, the angrier you're going to get when the game continues to develop on this basic premise of the story.
>he didnt do the balloon endingyou didnt beat the game
>Played 1>Didnt like 2>dropped the restAre you guys enjoying it still?
Did the fucking sun just eat my mushroom?
>>741875793>>741875872you can meet Sans along with Susie and the others and either she or you can draw a picture of you and your friends for Sanswhich is heavily implied that it is the picture found in his workshop. The INTERESTING part is that if you are doing the normal route, the picture features 4 people (i think) and in the weird route, it only features 3 which is accurate to Undertaleso people have taken this little tidbit as proof or speculation that the weird route is somehow going to end in Undertale
>here is your pedophile self insert for the evening please enjoy
>>741876071>Sans makes Susie fill out a punch card by having her draw herself, Kris, and Noelle.Doesn't Susie draw Ralsei on there too? She did so in my file.
>>741876127Ooh thanks, I didn't connect the dots when I did it.
>>741876197Yes, you simply need to go faster.
The most fucked up thing Susie does is stop Kris from hanging out with Berdly at the festival just to then have him third wheel. My man did not deserve this shit.
>>741876014its short but the highest kino the game has to offer, just watch a video if you dont have a save prepared
>>741876193>saying no to her I’m not a monster anon
>>741875521that sounds a little personal dude
>>741875557>Showed us the possibility of a Lightner fusing with a Darkner if they are harmonious (totally not foreshadow for Kris and Ralsei)I'm thinking Asriel and Ralsei
>>741875872Not that photo. Talking about the drawing that slips out of the book. It's a poorly-drawn picture of 3 people with the words "don't forget". This drawing was added in the same update as all the other Deltarune teasers.Sans says he's doing it "so I don't forget ya" in the chapter.
>>741876195im only playing it for the weird route stuff, dont like the characters
>>741876219Toby saw people coping about him being secretly anti trans and decided to go nuclear this chapter
>>741875381what the fuck does "ten feet twenty" even mean anyway?
>tfw I'll never have a silly girlfriend that wants to break the bonds of reality with me
>>741873530pure copium on my part but she might be acting intentionally dense, because if she acknowledged it then basically everything about her life that stopped sucking was fake. And where would you go from there? The Prophecy is hanging over her head like a guillotine so she reverted into a good little NPC who wears Ribbons because the Prophecy said so, and no longer asks questions about meta shit like the UI.
>>741876163Speen
>>741876228He does. I forgot lmao
>>741875403maybe instead of making spiteful scenes to pad the runtime and reference memetheories he should make the fucking game??>the game itself literally laments to the player, directly, several times, about having to make them wait for Deltarune>"heh....you ALSO don't like waiting for more vagueposts? Actually, you're being unreasonable for expecting any reasonable timeline for a paid product, here's a vaguepost chapter. Don't worry, I will also vaguepost in newsletters so that my vagueposters dont get discouraged and can continue writing the story for me. Here's a sneak peak at a slowed-down mp3 track used in the new chapter during a vagueposting scene. You are holding onto nostalgia and your expectations have been subverted"
>>741876127He has 2 chapters left to develop Sans's friendship with the fun gang and he hasn't gotten to it yetAbsolute hack
>>741876228>>741876228>Doesn't Susie draw Ralsei on there too? She did so in my file.read >>741876214you only get the correct amount of people if you are doing the weird route
>>741876197https://youtu.be/OpjNljjITjk?is=gttxESKY9ZBlOvk9
he's doing the Bejita
>>741876287toby is not writing the game anymore chief
>>741874650The reason Susie is acting so retardly in love with Noelle this chapter is because the prophecy is assuring their roles are fulfilled properly.In the weird route Noelle becomes aware of her role as a Noelle, and wants to break free. If you abort the drowning when the game is breaking, the game or prophecy sends you back to the normal route as if nothing happened, despite Kris and Noelle crossing the point of no return and dying. Noelle however is aware of what's happened, that's why she says "but nothing changed" and the abort jingle never plays.This is all a big cope though, although I find interesting that it makes so Susie, in the act of defying fate, succumbed to delusion and became its puppet without realizing.
>>741876310>spitefulMikefag...
>>741876219blue i'm closing my eyes and watching you why you trying not to laugh bruh that's disrespectful as shit
>>741876206Cute and funny
>>741876284There are alt routes? I thought Deltarune only had 1 ending.
>>741876197Yes just have to keep trying
>>741876340Source: your asshole?
>>741874046It's kind of filler like Chapter 5 but we were given a warning that it'd just be Chapter 1
I'm honestly surprised how many people on Twitter love Krusie and Kriselle
>>741876219>grooms a cute nerdy girl into believe she's a they/themI'd call it genius commentary if it weren't actively ruining the appeal of his own game
>>741876326Flowery putting the Knight through his bullshit, even temporarily, was the most kino part of the main route.
>>741876214My normal route didn't include Ralsei in the picture, so presumably Noelle, Susie, Kris, 3 people. Supposedly this is based on previous chapter dialogue choices. If Susie includes Ralsei in the drawing she will explicitly say it while she draws.
>>741876326
>>741875995>in games (You) are the main character, that's how games work. I didn't know I animorphrd into a nigger when I played the wrong GTA
>>741871247no monster actually killed him, he just killed himself
>>741876287Who said that? I thought Toby was secretly trans from the start.
>>741875557>Showed us the possibility of a Lightner fusing with a Darkner if they are harmonious (totally not foreshadow for Kris and Ralsei)I'm thinking this might actually happen
>>741876354you played 2 and didnt do the snowgrave route? lmao imagine missing the only interesting part of this shitstorm
>>741876321>>741876197Goofy ahh celestial body
>>741870357Need more Mew Mew
>>741876369source: actual enjoyer of artif you can't tell that there's been a switch you're a genuine npc or being dishonest
>>7418763852026 twitter is not the same as 2016 twitter. Few anons understand this.
So>KrisAsshole working with the knight and trying to paint everyone as a giant asshole for some reason>RalseiWorks with Kris and has anger issues if he's outshined by someone better than him>NoelleHates her fate and will grab with death grip onto anything that shows her a way out>SusieHaving to deal with all of the above while being unaware of it all and having tendency for escapism>(You)Enjoying Kris suffering and the doe
Has anyone tried killing flowery while the two cowards are downed?
I still haven't beat MewMew, she's too fucking hard, I'm having more trouble with her than i did with the Knight. Also what the fuck is the mannequin supposed to do against her? Seam mentioned something about that.
>>741875557>Showed us plenty more evidence of Rudy being the knightHow so? People seem to think that Dark Knight being dess has been debunked, but I've picked up on none of these dark knight related stuff
>>741876127Good to know that Ralsei's friendship is the noncanon route
>>741873756The gameplay and characters were a lot of fun, and although it was good to let the characters sit on the chapter 4 reveals for a bit it feels like the plot didn't move at all and we don't really know anything we didn't before. It's all setup for the next chapter, just with no next chapter to pay it off yet. it also just honestly feels like a lot of it went over people's heads>what the fuck it's like those big revelations last chapter didn't affect anything at all!>why is everyone acting so weird and out of character and not mentioning what happened or what they have to do? This sucks!
>>741875709go talk to him in the light world in the weird route and say that again btwhes extremely suspicious after falling off the ladder
>>741875872Normally Sans' workshop has photos of him with a bunch of people Frisk doesn't recognize. If the fun value is correct, and you previously met the clam girl who says you'd be good friends with her neighbor "Suzy", the text changes. You find a card with a drawing of 3 people and the words "don't forget."
This brainwashing cope is the most delicious yet. You fags are going to repeat it in every thread for like two years straight and then get anally annihilated again when it doesn't happen.
>>741876197>green sun>contains a four legged animalToby. Don't do this.
why did B A L L G A M E get shafted
>>741876472Reduce damage because of the typing system
>>741872819>mfw thought I was just taking a detour to the school for side stuff>she's actually just sleeping in the school broom closet and has been literally homeless for the entire game
>>741876447You couldn't even come up with 1 example? KEK fucking sad. Run away then idc
>>7418763204 people is not guaranteed>>741876402you can see it in this playthrough too https://youtu.be/s4MiZG5S5tU?t=1097
>FRIEND can be reached in this chapter>does damage when the soul hovers over it>damage done is determined by the value of the first item in your inventory>Dog Dollars lose value every chapterYou need a dogshit inventory to beat him
>>741876394this webm is fake and bait much like the entire chapter
>>741876472
>>741876069Hey wait... >Susie steals Sans joke of clopen because it makes Noelle think she's funny>the "looking in between the lines" joke>funnily enough also says Sans' line of getting dunked on.
>>741876605>>FRIEND can be reached in this chapterYou're like describing a dream you had or what
>>741876460>2026 twitter is not the same as 2016 twitter. Few anons understand this.You’ll notice that time feels like it doesn’t flow properly on 4chan anymore, people here acknowledge “new” things but they treat them in this weird stasis mindset where they’re mentally living in the same year on loop
>Chapter 7 side B, implying that the ultimate final boss is the same, but which side you're on depends on which route you tookWould be kino
>>741876430Nope. I stopped pretty much as soon as Spamton appeared iirc, was years ago now tho.I thought there was only 1 ending. Why would different routes matter?
>18 when Undertale came out>21 when Deltarune came out>now 29I feel like I’m too old for this shit now.
the worst part of this whole thing is we're not going to know if it's on purpose or not for AT LEAST a year (if not longer)and for that timespan we'll be dealing with anons sounding like schizos talking about it (whether they're right or not) and the annoying ass fanbase being even MORE annoying for acting like it's actually good (because no matter what it isn't)
>>741874235Aqua.
>>741876349no I legitimately don't care, I only recently got into the games. The scene is funny, that doesnt remove the fact that the dude is wasting precious devtime on self-referential meme scenes to pad a game that takes them forever to do anything with
toby fox the first nigga to take so long making a game that his target audience aged out of it before he finished
>>741876653Really? Sure doesn't feel like it fucking does much against her attacks to me.
FLOWER MAN!
>>741876682>what is nuance
>>741876320it's based on dialogue choices in chapter 3 when discussing your festival plans with Ralsei, not just weird vs normal
>>741876642uh oh https://youtu.be/0LkCST2qi_E?t=551
>>741876682>I thought there was only 1 endingtoby did say that. and you believed him?
>>741876653It's fucking retarded that he didn't just apply this to something actually WITHIN the chapter.I didn't even remember that item existed. When Seam mentioned it, I didn't have a fucking clue.
>>741876512He's extremely hospitalized while ch5 is taking place, it physically cannot be him.I cannot imagine the levels of delusion you have to be on to read in plain text "dude he's fucking dying/dead" and conclude "Yeah the knight's gotta be him".
>>741875557>totally not foreshadow for Kris and Ralseibut ralsei is a plant
>>741876472She's hard because you need high TP to get anything done so you don't want to cast heal spell. But she hits for a shit ton of damage. So you'll end up eating through your healing items quickly if you get hit too much. Stack up on Green Tea and some of those sodas from the cafe that heal 100 and also give TP is good.
>>741876472>Reduces damage received from Puppet/Cat attacks by 35%.someone mentioned in passing that there's a craftable item in castle town that's also supposed to help, but I didn't confirm
>>741876731Duke Nukem Forever says hi.
>>741872172I walked away from that thinking Susie was a darkener the whole time lmao
>>741876687>my hero is also in this image
>>741876127>>741876503In the normal route, Susie draws all four of them. Weird Route is the canon route
>>741876674I'd really like to think that most of us just don't use twitter at all to know or care what it's like but I'm afraid I've been alone on that one for a long time.
>>741876571art is almost entirely a political battleground for the elites. this game reached out to far to many young people with it's "positive messaging". they killed fox and replaced him. easy to do when you don't make any public appearances
>>741872323This but also Tenna.
>>741876663>he doesnt knowoh nononononnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Bidx3cD-TA
>>741874235Aqua but filled out
>>741876763>what is dodging the question
>>741876802Millenials didn't age out of being manchildren
>>741876816Susie only draws all four if you choose a specific dialogue option in chapter 4.
>>741872535As usual it disproved theoryfags retarded headcanons so it must have been terrible and not them for spending a year whipping themselves into a schizo frenzy
>>741876802I thought the target audience for duke was like gen x
>>741875891>>741875968Susie is Gumshoe
What’ll make these threads annoying is the amount of people who will boast that they totally dropped the game for a solid year or more and then when Chapter 6 drops they’ll come crawling back begging for more
>>741876467How does a completely mute and expressionless automaton "try to paint" anyone as anything?
>>741876605OH MY GOD THATS WHY YOU GET THE NEW SHITTER WOOD SWORD
>>741876653I don't even have this item and the boss took me two tries it's not that bad
Okay, I need to put this to rest.Are "oldbuddy" and "newbuddy", newfag and oldfag references?
>>741876685Only one stopping you from enjoying stuff is yourself anon
>>741876163I like the idea that all darkners are getting more and more schizophrenic as time goes on. Maybe as a consequence of the shadow crystal holders' shenanigans. This is based off of nothing mind you, just a fun thought.
Oh God .... Japanese flower children ....oh God....
>>741876942Yes
>>741876790Ralsei is a fetus
>it's badly written romance! It's badly written!>mask slips and they're just another krusie fagevery time
Don't care. FRIEND/Shadow Mantle/(You) threesome poly https://static1.e621.net/data/cb/51/cb51c55683741e7aa2e671d86744c536.png
>>741872492he called her a princess and put him in a closet
>>741876472my advice is remember you can take this shit slow, don't be afraid to use TP to heal and don't feel obligated to use the big flirts when you can just use the small ones while casting heal
>>741875381so cringekino it's kino
>>741876163The air is crackling with FREEDOM
>>741876989It is quite literally the least popular pairing in a game that includes Berdly. Cope harder retard
>Fl-floradinn-sama t-tasukete
>>741876163Toby has finally recognized Jevil's superiority.
>>741876289Basically how he views AsgoreFlower Man means both Flowery (literal man flower) and Asgore (the flower man). It's basically used as a stand-in for both of them, sometimes at the same time depending on the context of the lyrics after it. You can often take it both ways / it flows into each other to mean both>Ten feet twentyHe sees Asgore as extremely tall because hes just a flower looking up at him. >is waiting for the touch of his handAlways waiting for Asgore to come take care of them / wanting to actually meet him>Straightening petals out without a planAsgore has no life beyond caring for his flowers anymore>Like the every daily wish that bothers the flower manAsgore is deeply regretful and speaks to his flowers about his losses and desires>Could I do something to make him laugh inside my little made chamber of glassetc
>>741874235>Gave the fox furIt's literally made of WOOD and that makes it a cool design, not this generic shit, these furfaggot artists
>>741876898Yeah, the fans are at fault for theorycrafting with a misterybox game, those dumb retarded stupid nigger schizos should have just stopped asking questions and consoooom, right?
>>741876989Your crotch wound is rotting.
>>741872535>They also really fucking hate Floweryimagine hating kino
>>741877107>flowery summons and bumps into mob enemy to force dark knight into a battleI have to admit I was too smoothbrain to notice it at the time until anons pointed it out
>>741876927By doing stuff while we aren't around and doing.not doing specific things while we are
>>741877058you are a truly despicable individual jesus fucking christ
>>741876971She's just a delicate little flower, no need to panic.>>741877136It's faking it to appear fluffy to you.
>>741876971YESSSSSS COWGIRL RIDING KNIFEPLAY AQUA SEEEEEEXXXXXSHE CAN SPIN ON IT
>>741876679Massive schizo moment:>black shard is a triangle>3 'sides' (edges)>3 'endings' (points)>2 faces (1 v 1)
Haha.... How fluffy haha... May I touch?
>>741875859FemKris is completely cursed now. Before there was some leeway with the possible of Toby not being a complete fag but now after the Suselle shit and troons salivating over ralsei I have zero faith that such a twist wouldn’t become a shitty trans allegory
>>741877146Not at fault for asking questions, but for assuming incorrect answers.
>>741877058
>>741870045AH, DERUTAROON?>sips green teaSUGOI!!! OISHI!!! MECCHA SUGOI CHAPUTA NE!!!>rapidly sheathes and unsheates katanaKORE GA CHAPUTA GA KAKOIII!!!>waves glowsticksBOKU WA NIPPON STYURU GA DAISUKI!!!>kneels on my tatami matSUBARASHII GEIMU! ORE WA NIHONJIN AFTER PLAYING IT!!!>cools off with my folding fanChapter 5 was way too fucking weeb and this is the first time I've seriously just considered that there is no master plan and toby is just throwing random phrases and names out for no reason.Also its become dangerously community influenced.>DUDE WOODY>DUDE HE'S LIKE YELLOW AND A COWBOY XDD>CHECK OUT THESE SICK COLLABS THAT DON'T BLEND WITH EACH OTHER IN STYLE AT ALL, AND ARE REALLY JARRING (thought individually good) WHEN YOU PLAY THE GAME!>ANYONE LIKE...VOCALOID/!?! AND ANIMAY!?!? XDDDUT had undyne and alphys being weebs and making anime jokes, but they didn't live in a big japanese castle with vocaloid music, a hot spring, folding doors and every weeb trope under the sun.Mad mew mew wasn't even in the main game she was a switch extra boss fight, mad dummy just did one good DIO reference.I will give Toby some credit, tracing a cool HFTF Jotaro sprite for flowery was neat.
>>741877216I like how everyone thought these were going to be cute little blorbos but they're actually completely fucking insane.
>>741876776Dealmaker and FrayedBowtie from Spamton also have the cat/puppet resistance. During Chapter 5's castle town sequence, the FrayedBowtie can be fused with the TennaTie from chapter 3 to create the TrueTie with element resistance + increased defense.>nooo but I spedran the previous chapter, didn't buy 1 of every item, and sold all my old armors to hoard useless money, even though i knew equipment fusion was going to be a thingboohoo
>>741876163the person who wrote chapter 5 only played chapter 1 and watched the rest on youtube
>>741876385Reminder the cuckelle memes came from r*ddit
>>741875405No one is self inserting I just don't want to see Kris playing third wheel to a prophecy nepo-couple.
>>741877058>Hyeahim so tired of troons trying to act quirky
>>741877165>kino>literally naruto runs at the knight, does a the equivalent of a kid LARPing attack while spouting DBZ lines that do nothing>gets cut in halfit's also a trope that has been done to death and done TWICE in this game already, i couldn't give less of a fuck about any of the characters except maybe green and aqua
>>741872535they hate flowerly because he's a genuinely good guy who only wished for asgore's happiness
>once againdoes this guy show up anywhere else in deltarune except for the car pileup in ch2?are ALL of the goners just pretending to be normal?speaking of, does monster kid show up anywhere in this chapter? i don't remember seeing him at the festival
Do you think Toby uses Windows or macOS
>>741876163I only noticed like 1 Jevil mention from Ralsei about the duck. I still thought it was weird and out of nowhere though.
Why is toby so spiteful towards his fans now? He's pulling a hussie
>>741877310>>741875995
FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
>>741877364several enemies talk about the world revolving
>>741877378Some of his fans are fucking insane let's be real here.
>>741877378I have no idea but it is very jarring
>>741876687>we're not going to know if it's on purpose or not for AT LEAST a yearRalsei mentions multiple times how Susie -used- to act and tells Kris not to think about her when she's off screen, as opposed to all the other chapters. On top of that she locks herself in the dark world at the end while giving Kris the crazy eyes. Maybe you don't like the characterization but I don't know how you can pay attention to the game and wonder if they meant to write it that way, it's obviously implying that she's not acting like herself.
>>741877352>>literally naruto runs at the knight, does a the equivalent of a kid LARPing attack while spouting DBZ linesas i said, kino
>>741872535People hate Flowery? He was based as fuckThat shit he did on the puzzle with the skateboard is the exact moment this chapter became good
>>741877360Do you think the armless lizard lady has a cute daughter that she could introduce me to? Asking for a friend? (The friend is me)
>>741876790Ralsei is the pink headband Kris wore as a kid.
>>741877216This enemy was kind of surreal because I know a guy who is obsessed with fox girls and fluffy tails exactly like this and I thought it was just a him thing but I guess there are many others out there
>>741877360He donates to spiders in Undertale
>>741877280
Thoughts on this character after ch5?
>>741877479He's lying, the friend is inside him
>>741877378>Yellowcard brag that their mod is better than his game and should be canon>Tody turn Yellow into a faggotYou would do it too
>>741872323Ralsei calm down, I'm not gonna enable back your voice clips with that attitude
>>741876128Noelle's attraction to Susie is due to her "idgaf I do what I want" attitude to the world. Noelle ALWAYS wanted to break free and Susie represented that dream, so she was infatuated. Which is why she ends up ignoring her over Kris PROCEEDing and placing the red dot on her lets her see a path past the programming, where she no longer has to be a Noelle that does Noelle things. Probably a major red flag for her overall psyche if the first order of businesss is attempting to kill the idea of "Noelle" when true freedom is shown to her. I wouldn't be surprised if she manifested a schizo crystal
>>741877541Catti was right
>>741877541Naive was right, she has no clue how in deep they all are
>>741877541humiliation ritual.
>>741876850holy DUMPTRUCKMORE
>>741877541can we bring back the cool fbi writers and kill all the cia dudes?
there are people who believe FRIEND is an actual character and Gaster will show up at some point in the story
>>741877431Oh right
>>741877218>be Toby>design designated fagbait character >”oh btw he is actually a she isn’t SHE a beautiful transwoman =)”Toby’s going to get stabbed by a Japanese faggot if he makes ralsei a tranny
>>741877556Nah I wouldn't
If Yellow's suicide fixation was written with UTY in mind that's kino and Toby is based.
>>741870225FPBP
>>741870045>Sans act a lot more friendly to Kris in the weird route>specifically give you bread for unknown reasons>bread crumbs are used to follow people.I don't know if it's to work for Gaster or for himself but that fat bastard knows and is following your ass
>>741877297They just want a gamer boyfriend/ girlfriend
>>741876687It sounds like coping that some people genuinely believe that a lesbian couple would be retconned or implied that never was meant to be a thing on its own. All toby can do is to explore their relationship more to flesh them out
>>741874235male
>>741871852>will gladly trade his life to see genuine joy from the man who kept him aliveKino
>>741877503yes, that's my point, he's referencing something that literally only (We) should knownot to mention he's standing right next to the fucking bird, who says the takoyaki costs 2 Gold, which is also an undertale thing since deltarune uses regular dollars
>>741877635It literally happened this chapter already if you pick the right options after climbing the tower in castle town
It’s weird how people here are obsessed with shipping shit like a drug but if you want to talk about the “Nothing changed.” screens constantly cutting into the normal Suselle lake scene it’s like your post is shadowbanned in how ignored it is
>>741877541I want chapter 1 Susie back
>>741877541
Schrödinger's future theory>BasisThe Prophecy of Deltarune exists as a concept that only controls those who have seen it. Those who don't know of it or haven't seen the full version are not bound by it. Those who have seen it, are bound by it and act accordingly.>AssumptionsThe cage/prince/girl in the prophecy are in fact Kris/Ralsei/SusieThe full prophecy is more detailed than just what we've seenToby is not (completely) a hack fraud writer>ExplanationThis theory starts off of Susie's change in character between chapters 4 and 5. Her solemn attitude at the end of 4 does not match her behavior at the start of 5. The reason for this would be due to her seeing the full prophecy in chapter 4, in particular the "Love finds its way to the girl" section. Seeing this bit of the prophecy meant it became unavoidable, and so despite her having a lot bigger things on her mind, she's suddenly struck with an obsession with her date with Noelle and with Noelle in general. Witnessing the prophecy made her bound to it and she can't fight fate anymore. By observing the prophecy, it was forced to come to pass. Kris, being an ally of someone behind the scenes, has probably seen the prophecy, but we (the SOUL) have not, so we have the power to change the ending since the timeline hasn't collapsed to a single point yet.>Supporting pointsRalsei having fire magic but not using it. He has seen the whole prophecy and thus can't change the outcomes. He cares deeply abut saving the world and would sacrifice himself given the chance, so unless he's being prevented there's no reason he wouldn't be using said magic constantly. By seeing how things turn out he now is unable to change the outcome with his magic.Noelle freaking out in the aborted weird route lake scene, intercut with the regular yuri dialogue. Seems she can't change what's going on, like it was fated to happen>Counter pointsSusie did not find love in the weird route, maybe Noelle is the girl in this route
>>741872046wait whathow does it flip out, do you have a video?
>>741874235Did anyone draw the fox with socks yet?
>tfw asgore jobs bigly
I thought the chapter would end with Rudy dying and Asgore gaining sense after learning that during your fight with him
>>741877675>you lose the bread in the aborted routewhat does it mean
>>741877541She will be wearing a dress by the end of chapter 7 and more girly outfits by chapter 6
>>741877626Gaster has already shown up as the eggman and voice at the start. I do think the voice is all we’ll get though, if weird route is right we’ll fuck the game into meeting him only to realise that we followed the exact same mistake he made and ended up gone
>>741877437the question is whether the shitty writing on noelle and susie's relationship is on purpose as part of the 'not acting like herself' bit, not just whether she's acting normally or notbecause really you can't answer that one decisively when it's got shit like picrel making it look like it's just toby being shit at writing yuri again alongside all the nods to susie being a little off this chapter
>>741877541Sooner or later she was going to lose favor with /v/. Toby does this peculiar thing where he makes you love a character, hate the character, and then love them again.
>>741877721Or maybe it's because almost nobody has an actual weird route save, retard?Genuinely less than 5% of the people who play this game bothered to even do it, and of those, probably 1% have actually finished the new chapter on both paths and come to 4chan to get spoiledDon't let logic get in the way of your persecution complex tho!
>>741877626Gaster will show up at some point in the story, but as a goofball final boss having wacky scenes around his lab the whole chapter. A remix of Papyrus' theme will start playing whenever he appears and the dating UI will show up during his fight.
>>741877773spying device
>>741877706He's just an undertale reference IG.
So do you think Flowery is fucking dead or is Toby going to pull another Tenna with him?
>>741877675>>bread crumbs are used to follow people.In Mother games, it can be used to teleport back to a certain location Toby gave another proof that Sans is Ness in current year
Who else HOPEpilled?>Susie and Noelle is throwing the biggest red flags>Just like how the game shits on self-inserters by having Kris actively hate the Player for making decisions on his stead, the game will too shit on shippers who actively dismiss character's best interest>Weird route is skipping Chapter 6 because Chapter 7 onwards will fully be unique content instead of "Side B" content>It did not have a Dark World because from now on weird route will take place in the real world>Own bosses, own story, showing and entirely different side of the game where the prophecy is not fulfilled>Rudy conveniently once again not being able to be the knight, for the fourth time in a row>Only one this happens to over and overIN TOBY I TRUST
>>741877352maybe view it from the viewpoint of a flower that knew his fate was to die, but still tried to fight against it every step of the way
Are flowery's other goofy poses references as well because this was the only one that was obvious to me
>>741872535>I now /v/ hates it, but now I'm seeing people on Twitter hate it. They also really fucking hate FloweryThat's funny because most of /v/ loves Flowery. I'm assuming that, conversely, twitter loves the Suselle stuff which /v/ hates.
>>741877690At request
>>741877635I am beyond over the erasure of more effeminate men
>>741877541isn't she going crazy? she lives in a closet and is embracing the Dark World
>>741877721Nothing changed
Opening chapter 5 repeatedly just for FLOWER MANFLOWER MANWITH HIS HEART IN THE SANDSO HE STANDSTO WATCH THE WHOLE WIDE WORLDFROM A CAN
>>741877378He's always been like this.The only difference between then and now is that games that games that get an immediate full release aren't as easy to modify once out.This is unlike the episodic games that give you ample time to get the feel for the audience consensus and decide to "clap back" when you don't like it.He's a shitlib, they are all like this. And this song and dance plays out everytime with similar authors because people cannot fathom that someone completely ideologically and politically opposed to you could write a story you enjoyed at one point.I can guarantee you that Toby cries himself to sleep because the latinx debacle happened too late for him to change up chapter 5 and include a totally distinct not south american darkner to humiliate much like he did with people who prefer the original dark Ralsei over his gay Asriel OC.
Cute
>>741877773aborted route will be different but it won't be as different as the weird routeexpect a few alternate scenes or dialogues and MAYBE a different boss or final ending
>>741877541I still like her, she was never your self-insert fuckmeat.
>>741877210She really likes bouncing around, she will destroy your dick.uuu
Well fuck you too Ralsei
>>741877842I'm not doing a weird route run until full game release so I don't get my first normal clear wrecked by Chara desu
>>741877675He's 100% a fed
>>741877882Very much so, yes. I don't buy into the "prophecy brainwashing" cope but she is not okay.
The strongest fraud of today vs the strongest fraud in history
>>741877821>>741877845see, this shit is what happens when you theoryfag for years for a game with so little contentgaster isnt even real
>>741877721I mean, the game itself is pushing shipping stuff, it's part of the plot and a big deal, and on top of that, the worst kind, a love triangle. It's not like you should blame this place.
>>741877927
>>741877431and the scarecrows' scythe attack pattern is reminiscent of the devilsknife
>>741877862you can cut flowers and they'll still live so he'll probably be fine, though he'll just be a normal flower at that point
>>741877882Hopefully, but it’s Toby so there’s a chance she’s supposed to look good
>>741877842>Or maybe it's because almost nobody has an actual weird route save, retard?so all the /v/chuddies saying they’re only sticking around for weird route got outed
>>741877849people are reading pretty deeply into the goner characters when theyre just member-characters who dont really contribute anything besides killing FRIEND
>>741877952does the dialogue change if you never flirt with any npcs?
>>741877927>>741877996her BUTT is sticking up in the air
>>741877996>>741877927She got her shit rocked last night
>>741877845This would actually make not consume any products created by Toby Fox ever again
>>741877420LEAF THE ROARING KEK TO ME hahahaflowershaha
>>741878039It's like 3 niggers. There's a reason they don't have their own thread
>>741875859I know this is fan made because there is no shot toby would have made cool praying mantis kimono girls and not reused the fuck out of them
As an ESL, the wordplay segment of the pink fight was confusing as shit
>>741877882The power of the prophecy. This is what Ralsei is coping about.Susie is being forced to fill her "Gender Role" and wear ribbons.
>>741877653True. It's based he hates the fangame.
>>741877952He's just like me....
>>741877689>All toby can do is to explore their relationship more to flesh them outIf chapter 5 was meant to be completely sincere and not an elaborate rugpull with its Suselle ship then yeah no the ship is completely fucked. By yuritard standards it’s a perfect ship and the characters are just going to become more and more retarded as their personalities devolve into “being gay”
>>741875682>waaah waaaah my steak was too juicy waaaahFlowery fighting the Knight was absolutely kino. You are nitpicking too much
>>741877952might as well just drive a fucking knife into his heart ralsei
Bros, chapter 5 took the wind out of my sails.It’s like a fangame doing its best to imitate Deltarune instead of being one.I miss the theories.This chapter gave us next to nothing to sink teeth into.Reading between the lines requires trusting the dog and I can’t trust the dogshit was according to keikaku.Mechanically the chapter is the best ever, and while there are no bangers to listen on repeat, music is very solid objectively.It’s just I love talking about the game with (You), my nigga, and I have nothing to talk about.I miss festival like you couldn’t believe.I expected so much magic from the festival for five freaking years and I got cucked into some dinky flower shop.And we’ll never get a new festival.This makes me unreasonably sad.No vote results vignette, no parade.I wasn’t expecting Citadel levels of interacting with NPCs, but I wanted a festival, damn it.It’s like something dear was taken from me and replaced by “we have it at home” version.Thank you for listening, anon, you’re the only one who’ll (deservedly) call me a faggot.
>>741877927>pixel art shows her eating honey toast>artist doesnt draw itit was literally written into the dialogue
>>741874483What if you do the ballot thing first?
>>741877541worse character assassination than Toriel
>>741878098Just wait for the spanish release pablooh wait:^)
>>741876326>kneeling for no reason >didn't instantly win right away despite not needing to stall RudyKnight with the fall nerfing him or The Knight is getting nerfed in-story too even if he one-shot
if im being charitable i'd say maybe once the whole game is done chapter 5 will feel less obnoxious in pausing the story development. otherwise despite the fun gameplay and funny characters i cant say this chapter hits harder than 2, 3 (admittedly saved by sword route shenanigans), or 4. toby better stop the bullshit in chapter 6 and let loose.
>>741878098Then you need to improve your English skills
>>741877927>>741877996sans is definitely underneath her under that blanket isn't he?that is why her whole body is covered, either that or she is fully nude under that blue blanket
>>741877982The egg guy has holes in his hands and tells you to stop looking for him like he did in UT. I don’t think he’s going to be a major character but to say he isn’t part of it is wrong
Did Toriel get rehabilitated or not
>>741878060She would've let Kris join them
>>741877927>>741877996spergs can seethe all they want I'll never stop loving this idiot
>>741877982He has literally spoken to you>y-y-you don't know it was himThe song in the intro is literally named "another him" and the voice speaks the exact same fucking way he does in entry 17.Now whether or not he will do anything in the game, that is up for debate
>>741877352He's the only character who isn't irony poisoned and is just a fun mugen fighter cringe weeb played sincerely
can someone PLEASE explain to me the appeal of suselle beyond “muh two womans kissing”?
>>741878094he did, go check diner2, theres also an unused pot archer enemy
I feels like people don't realize that what Susie does at the end isn't really portrayed as positive either.She has a really broken look on her face when closing the door.
what the FUCK did she mean by this??????HELLO???
>>741875241Without a doubt
>>741877541Character assassination
>>741878221Yurilards have low standards
>>741878098I understood the wordplays only when looking at them on the wiki, during gameplay it didn't occur to me to think with that time limit
>>741877879Don’t worry they’d go after Susie to if they weren’t afraid of making suselle “hetslop”
>>741878237ah, I completely ignored that area after going through once
>>741878262Toriel was the real groomer all along or sans wants to fuck kris and toriel
>>741878060Yeah she really got her gut bustedrolling on the floor all nighther sides are gonna be sore for days
>>741878070>I swear to god if the hotdog stand gives me another hotdog....
How is /sus/ handling the chapter?
>>741878169I mean, there are only 2 chapters left, it's a fact that things will get wild
>Toby needed to spell it out for the retards in back
epstein and hitler were into yuri, never forget that
>>741878214Kris manipulated everyone into hating her just like he’s doing with Susie and Noelle
>>741878262do you niggers not know how to readdon't tell me you actually thought they were having sex? are you retarded?
>>741878194Toby made up a bunch of cope to prove she's not abusive which confirms he genuinely didn't think there was anything wrong about her behavior in ch4 ending.She's a precious cinnamon roll that can do no wrong once again and actually it was Kris who was in the wrong!
>>741878262she means everyone pretending they were having loud sex all night is a fucking idiot
>Susie act more considerate and closer to Kris in the WR, when Kris is doomed due to the soul actionsShe possibly won't ever see him again, or will be forced to fight him.The route where Susie is more grounded in reality is the route where she is miserable and possibly in danger, damn...
>>741878369
>>741878143My nigga, it felt like Toby listened to rushfags while making the chapter, you don't even get the chance to cheer up Nice cream guy
>>741877541Sans and Catti, I kneel. There's a reason why Gerson identified her as the Dragon, because she has to be slain.
>>741878262While San's may have a born, Toriel hasn't felt an actual warm flesh and blood cock in a while, and the only person she'd be comfortable to fuck would be her very one lovely son Kris of courseClassic Toriel behavior
>>741877172>Flowers are half-living, half-object anomaly darkners>We already know what happens to dead monsters in fountains>An anomaly fountain boss can become a gigaknower & abuse game mechanics without going schizo like jevil and spamton >Ralsie, the Castle Town boss, is an anomaly>Can easily break character, stop holding back, ignore puzzles>Hates flowery for leaning into Meta Schizo when he's too scared to, >Copes by saying it's futile and Flowery should just play along with the story.as corny and MY FUCKING HERO is, he is actually a gigaknower at par with Ralsie. So what the fuck is Ralsie? Is fetus theory real?
>>741878149maybe they thought it was part of the chair
Lorefags lost massively this chapter. No doubt about it.
>>741877927>>741877996Reminds me of my mom after new year's eve.I love my mom, bros.
>>741878262>Mr. Sans was quite looking forward to BONEing you
>>741878221cliché strong girl x weak girl couple
>>741873564>>741870225I like how much Toby went out of his way to show us that Aqua is literally younger Kris. And all that implies.
>>741878405sure toby, and the doe didn't get raped either
>>741878098My nigga, I didn't even know a date was also a fruit
>>741878372Yeah and I know what's best for Kris unironically though. Mew Mew ain't a god like me or you
>>741872067>BRO THE FESTIVAL IS COMING OHHH WATCH OUT THE FESTIVAL IS WHEN EVERYTHING CHANGESAfter everything that happened I now unironically believe that Kris getting unambiguously cucked to death, was the intended happening for this chapter, and thats its setting him up to go postal next chapter.
How does the difficulty of the shadow crystal boss compare to the other chapters?
>>741876014>people here don't like it too much for some reasonI don't enjoy watching the main character get humiliated throughout the entire chapter.
>>741878262Kris isn't blood-related
>>741874450In a addition to that, it might mark your save file forever.
>>741878332No they wouldn’t. Neither chuds nor trans”women” give a shit about transmen. Everyone just collectively sees them as either irrelevant or just very autistic women.
>omg guys Asgore is a fag in the new chapter>if anything it kind of confirms the opposite
>>741878405>>741878432But everyone thought it? It's not even a /v/ thing, that's how all normalfags understood it
>>741878221we just really need this one, okay?
>>741877541It doesn't make sense at all that she's both embracing reality (Noelle) and regressing into escapism (Castle Town) at the same time. ch 6 would have to immediately open with Noelle addressing this, and disliking Susie's love bombs/getting too attached. Especially with her fucking dad dying, what the fuck?>my dying dad is about to die..>yooooo wouldn't it be sick if noelle was here lol lets put up some christmas shit
>>741878369It’s grim
>>741878405>are you retarded?You're in a Deltarune threadYou do the math
>>741878527he literally didn't
>>741878405/v/ will always choose the most salacious interpretation and believe it wholeheartedly out of pure contrarianism. You're talking to a brick wall.
>Get to the hard final platforming section>3rd try, nearly to the end but fall, I'll get it in due time>STEP ASIDE PLAYER, WE'VE GOT THISOkay fuck me I guess. I actually wanted to do that section and was liking the challenge.
EggFricker52 status?>onionsan was literally cut up and eaten
>>741875183I can't think of anything more reddit than r/animemes humor in 2026.>>741875240> I came up with a baseless schizotheoryNope. I played the chapter and assumed the absence of a red flower would be significant in some way. Congratulations on outting yourself as a tourist who didn't play the chapter.>>741875345Why would there be more secret bosses if there are no more shadow crystals? It's a reasonable assumption.
>>741878527It means Kris was so much better as a little girl instead of the stinky femcel she is now.
>>741878550either very easy, or unberably hard if your mind is destroyed by bomberman bombs
>>741878553I really liked the bit where their face had checker marks after waking up because that was my first thought upon seeing the sprite
>>741876468nop they still do it
>>741878405>this guy doesn't read between the lines
>>741870045Worst chapter by far. Was there any doubt Asgore was gonna suck? The weird route was cut short, the ost sucked, the festival was lacking and nothing happened. Toby Fox lost his touch, was too busy fucking otokonoko in Japan
>>741878253That implies that waifutards are paying attention to Susie the character and not Susie the fanfic breeding mare
>>741878510Who the fuck is FRIEND anyway?
>>741878553>Kris falling asleep during the most critical, ship deciding momentGod damnit I believed in you, you lil nigga. You let us all down
For all you fucking DOOMERS spamming your tard rage posts:Susie LITERALLY cares more about Kris than her own relationship with Noelle and asks him if she was "interrupting something" between themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3YIPQPqKq0
>>741878465fetus theory is real
>>741877235>Aqua is Marioanon... the 2hu's theme is literally "Flowering Night"
>>741876014Kris and Noelle drown in the lake and you have to wait till chapter 7 to get any resolution
>>741878610The way Toby enables shit like easy mode after losing more than a couple of times is really frustrating as someone who likes a challenge but isn't very good at video games
>>741878620But stinky femcels are delicious anon
>>741878596Noelle is part of this escapism. Susie is on autopilot trying to go back to the light world friend sim/dark world adventure structure.
>>741878190You are drowning in a fucking lake, not experiencing orgasm lmao, this game shows how pornrotted people's brains are.
>>741878253>I feels like people don't realize that what Toriel does at the end isn't really portrayed as positive either
>>741878696dude i dont care about any of the shipsshit just sucked ass
>Undertale Yellow says its better>Yellow cowboy in Deltarune is a suicidal retard and also gay>Latinx try to cancel Toby for not porting it to Spanish>ESLs gatekept from the Mew Mew fightIs Toby Fox spiteful?
WHY can sans teleportWHY is sans asking susie for the 'dont forget' drawing out of nowhereWHY is HE FUCKING MY MOM?!
>>741878596Noelle chimping out when Susie asks to come to the dark world is my only hope for the game going forward. Knowing Toby she’ll be happy to join Susie to avoid thinking about Rudy
>>741878405You disappoint Gerson
>>741877842Just because you don't play the fucking game doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either.
This brat is doing things to my mental state
>>741878610nuh uh you dont get it bro the power of friendship is superior to struggle and perserverance, now struggle and perservere against this secret boss
Don't get inbetween me and Noelle
>>741878525So… the exact type of dynamic faggots claim to hate but the strong man is replaced with a woman? Got it
>>741877541Main reason I never liked susie in first place was that the amount of worship she gets in game feels unearned. Toby's favoritism for her is so over your face
>>741878817>drowns selfLOL
>>741875381kino>>741877058its definitely a ronald mugen reference and not a jotaro reference, but i could do without this gay faggot image
>>741878771Gaster orders. move away if you don't want to become Octopus
>>741878596The fat goth cat talked about this, but Susie is going to drag Noelle down to Lala-Land with her as she fixates on the escapist fantasy and tries to claim things that make her feel good in order to not think about the prophecy. Susie is going full prophecy-cuck after falling to despair and threatens to swallow up Noelle with her
>>741878771the real question iswhy did he put a fucking gps tracker into a loaf of bread
>>741876989>it's badly written romance! It's badly written!It is
>>741878808Sir that’s a child
>>741878771Interdimensional BBW hunter
Media where the creator is at pace with the fandom is fucking horrendous to go through if you weren't part of the fandom as it releases. I'm glad that Toby is making this game something that stands the test of time rather than something that you had to be there for.Chapter 5 is for people who didn't realize that Asgore was involved in Dess' disappearance, which is something that just gets hinted at in optional dialogue before and someone playing through the game without hundreds of thousands of retards in their ear discussing every scene might miss or pass over.
>>741877741needs an update where kris is just sitting in the cuck chair outside the window
>>741878696This is only in the aborted weird route.
>>741878569what are you talking about?
>>741878372She wants it bro she was just in denial
>>741878876*Flower
Shipping is powerscaling autism fused with estrogenProve me wrong
>>741878912Hamburgers.
It's him, officer, sacrifice him. For what crime? Projecting his dumbass fantasies on a T rated video game!
>>741878909You don't give her a reason to think you and Noelle are close in the normal route
>>741878768>thinly veiled UTY slanderSebastian... is that you?
>>741878876out of 10!
>>741878589Poe's Law is ever the bane of online discourse
>>741878696...and then talks about how happy she is that whatever was between them is over
>>741878405Everything is sexual or ntr on /v/
>>741878771He's Sans Undertale, that's what he doAnd Toriel has been alone for god knows how long, last night was probably the first time in years she had unfiltered fun.... and maybe some bone....
>>741878771i just can't help but to like the mystery around sans
>>741878771Hometown is a False Hydra
>>741878889Anon, Toby's chapters are always full of dated references and humor his shit is not going to stand the test of time.
>>741878768Yes (and that's based). Same happened with Togore, too. Toby doesn't like when his babies are mocked.
>>741878768>>ESLs gatekept from the Mew Mew fightThe implication that game makers should write their games in tard speak with slow intonation for foreigners pisses me offHow about you make your own games you subhuman?
>>741878991>you and NoelleSelfinsertRETARD...
>>741878746Then why the fuck did they start drowning so early? They can't hold breath for at least 30 seconds?
>>741877919>much like he did with people who prefer the original dark Ralsei over his gay Asriel OC.My eyes rolled out of my skull when everyone collectively declared that Ralsei's new look is so much better when the wind blows away his spider mode hat
>>741877927Slut
>>741878569I legitimately never seen that take anywhere anon
Even if the romance was well written its still NTR which is intrinsically evil and worthy of execution for its writers.
MY FUARKING HERO
>>741878996*TobyHe's the one that hates Yellow, too.
>>741878372She's already grey she's just missing her gigachad face
>>741878610I thought it was cute anon
>>741879138>The Roaring FRAUD jobs againKWAB
>>741879094You go into any porn game thread and self-inserters are mocked relentlessly. How do WEGgers understand Deltarune better than its supposed fans?
>>741878696Normal Route:>”Man I just LOVE Noelle you know what fuck kris I’m going to eat a doe GFs ass”Aborted Weird Route:>”Kris are you and Noelle ok? You know what forget about Noelle your friendship is the most important thing in the world to me I’d never betray you or hurt your feelings right.”Is this damage control did Toby realize people were going to hate the Suselle shit so he threw everyone else a bone in the cucked route?
>>741879087>>741878768english is my only language and the "match your wardrobe" bit was really stupid, he couldn't have come up with something else? match is not used as a verb to mean setting on fire
>>741872323He's an ikemen bro, stop being obsessed with cocks. And he is better than Kris "I opened the portal, I'm only pretending I'm trying to save my father but I'm half-assing and will let Knight steal him", Susie "Hero" and Ralsei "Only my fountain matters". King was more annoying. Queen was annoying. Tenna overstayed his welcome, but I guess that was the point, him trying to keep you there.
Turns out the "you only need to meet her once and then you'll move forward" wasn't about Noelle it was about Susie. it was probably the last time you were going to interact that way with her in the WR.
>>741879125ntr is hot
am I misremembering? I thought Susie appeared before Kris could make the flower shop fountain in time, i.e. it was Asgore's doingasking because I'm doing aborted weird route, meaning Kris was asleep for basically the entire day, so he wouldn't have had an opportunity to talk to Seth the night before
>>741878448I wanted the adventure and wonder, I got memberberries and throwaways.My man, sorry for talking your ear off.I need to grow a pair and start making my own video games with adventure, with wonder, and without this rugpull bullshit.Gerson (written ostensibly by the same hack) was thousand times right.It’s a solemn oath.Stupid, but solemn, the last straw.May you sometimes bump into what I’ll make and may you enjoy it.
>>741879107Cause it's cold?
>>741878610this pissed me off so badly, I was so close to getting the hand of it
>>741878383untermensch/goyim wouldn't understand
>>741879068what was the Togore reference?
>>741879120>>741794742 Took all of 5 seconds to find one.
>>741871852he's the main reason I don't consider side a terrible outside of gameplayreally carried the whole chapter on his shoulders
>>741877352>literally naruto runs at the knight, does a the equivalent of a kid LARPing attack while spouting DBZ lines that do nothing>gets cut in half
>>741879227Susie appears before Kris can get to the back, but then she turns her back to him and for some reason decides to keep talking with her back turned until the fountain is made.
>>741878512>Reminds me of my mom after new year's eveDid some stranger she'd known for about three days fuck her too, just like Toriel?
>>741878696How this proves anything? Any person that had doubts would do that.
>>741877675desu when i got the bread i thought it might've been a reference to earthbound zero, since there's a glitch involving breadcrumbs in that game that lets you go into a monochrome out of bounds area (which wouldn't be the first time in the game that gets referenced, since you get to see that monochrome area in deltarune from MANCOUNTRY)i mean i dunno what the implications are of sans giving it to you but i didn't think about it beyond the reference
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUk9g_n2_Ms>ruin Kris' date
>>741879227If you talk to the object before you open the dark world it remembers. This is well established many times. Kris could have spoken to it right before opening the dark world
>>741877541I want to kill her.
>>741876989The idea that one has to be a shipfag to think this shit is badly written is so strange to me as a non-shipfag that things this shit is badly written
>>741879227Kris could have talked to them any time before chapter 5, including the end of chapter 4 when he leaves through the window
>>741879270Not in the game but in the anniversary stream and Hussie saying talking about Togore would piss him off.
>>741877675>>741877865Wait really? Is he why we warp back if we "die" in the lake?
>>741879227Kris walks around to the back door and makes the fountain while Susie is turned the other way.Asgore talks about how he wants to catch whoever created the dark fountain and parade their body through the streets.
Would you “do something crazy” with her?
>the festival that’s been hyped up since chapter 1 is actually just a thinly veiled excuse to shove mandatory suselle down everyone’s throatsBRAVO TOBY
>>741879227Dark worlds consist almost entirely of shit from Kris' childhood and the imaginary games he's played back then.
Why was susie bullying Kris if she was just jealous of him being with noelle?
>>741879138W-WHAAAAAAAT? YOU B-BEAT ME BY GIVING YOURSELF MAX STATS AND NOT FOLLOWING THE ARBITRARY RULES OF MY DARK WORLD??? *KNEELS* FLOWERY-SAMA I-I'LL HAVE TO DEFEAT YOU IN AN UNDODGABLE CUTSCENE!!! *POOP DRIBBLES DOWN ARMOR*
>>741879192>You go into any porn game thread and self-inserters are mocked relentlessly.How the fuck do you mock self-inserting in a fucking porn game thread?
>>741878771he doesn't teleport, there's actually just at least 3 sanses
>>741878262>join us faggot
I didn't wanna fucking die bros. I wanted to live out my days raping the doe
>>741879398You're retarded if you didn't see that coming after chapter 4 made a huge deal about Susie taking Noelle to the festival.
>>741879138but seriously, the Knight got all wavy, did flowery actually manage to land a hit?And he also just decided to stop the Knight's sword with his bare hands, aura farming and shit.
Is Toby aware that zero people like his forced pairing? I thought that he was, butIt seems like he might just be delusional
>>741878768At this point I genuinely wouldn’t be surprised if all the heavy handed suselle shit was purely out of spite over the cuckelle memes
>>741879192Believe it or not, there is a decent cohort of anons who don't self insert beyond the SOVL, don't crank it to UT/DR porn despite plenty of time on /d/ and /trash/, and just don't like bad writing. it's why we like psyop theory so much.
So why does Kris hate the player?
>>741872908-zero- Berdly interactions at the festival, aside from him calling you out for following the two like a dog, is abhorrent indeed.
Kriss will kill his own cucked non-binary ass and let the player take control to destroy yurifags.
>>741879461Flowery fucked her up, it’s only because she cheated and messed with the game itself
The part of Chapter 5 when Susie says "Wow Kris, we truly were Deltarune Chapter 5 Festival Day!"
>>741879482>bad writingCode for "my ship lost"
>>741879385yes, let's kill ourselves together
>>741879385>"go somewhere we're not supposed to">"do something crazy">"keep saying it"It's all porn guys believe me Toby Foxbert told me in my ear last night when we hung out with Sakurai and ZUN.It's clearly and definitely not alluding to video game terms like pressing forward, going out of map or glitching the game, no siree.
>>741879385I'm tired of all the art depicting her with these ideal cute facial proportions and hourglass body instead of the plain frumpy nerdy girl she isDo you really even like her then?
>>741878696>Susie LITERALLY cares more about Kris than her own relationship with NoelleYeah sure
>>741877352yeah you joyless faggot that's LITERALLY what kino meanshave you never played no more heroes? oh right, you're a joyless faggot
>>741879234Careful when writing these down to stranger. You feel satisfied, and you end up doing no work for thisTry writing a story an sell it first
You know? I bought the game for this chapter and replayed the game for like the 5th time.And I don't think it was worth it, it wasn't that expensive but come on... The festival was the most dissapointing shit ever, I really wanted to see that and all we got was cuckshit with like 3 events that matter even one bit. Fuck this.
Fucking crazy to think Burgerpants managed to keep his dignity intact
>>741879449that's a penis
>>741878610The way you do ACTs in platforming fucking sucks and it's easy to accidentally deselect what you meant to do, that section would be fine if it didn't do that
>>741879527I'll take a pyrrhic victory (world destroyed) over a loss (suselle permitted to continue)
>>741879427Because it's a blatant retcon. Everything that was written about Susie up until this chapter indicated that Susie was jealous Kris had a loving mom, especially once she got a small sample of that love in the form of Toriel consoling her and taking her to the diner.Why do you think bully mode Susie brought up Kris's mom several times? She was showing her hand at that time.
>>741879548Nigger, what the fuck does a rape allegory has to do with porn?Sounds to me you're the one with brainrot here.
>>741879457I was at least expecting there to be ANYTHING else going on with it for fucks sake we can’t even bring along berdly
>>741879138>Had to sneak up on Asgore to capture him>waited until CHADery was exhausted after fighting the fun gang with the power of friendship>immediately started another cutscene when forced into battle>power struggles with its Black Knife against an unarmed flower darkner>stopped by a WALLRoaring Fraudkeks, is this REALLY your Big Bad?
>>741877743>people have been assuming weird route will be the one that permanently alters your saves like genocide in undertale>in actuality, it's the normal route that does this, as (We) get to see the prophecy in full, locking ourselves into the Fated Ending no matter how hard we try
>Fountain was opened by Kris in the Flower King>They close it>But they stay in because someone opened a second Fountain???? Did the Knight see the Dark World start to fade in Flower King then instantly stab the ground in the Light World to keep it up?? Was it just a times coincidence or were they waiting? They couldn't have made it within the Dark World because that'd just make a titan, no? Or was a titan going to form but we deleted the first fountain so the second stopped becoming a titan??
Cattifags won bigly
>>741878262I will alsojoin
>>741879368> including the end of chapter 4 when he leaves through the windowhe doesn't do this if you put the thornring on Noelle though. I'm assuming at least, that after Carol called him about the festival, Kris forced himself to sleep through the entire day and not escape through the window, since the soul is in his body when he wakes up
Deltarune peaked with Spamtom, everything was downhill since
>>741879223>ntr is hotToby...
>>741879561she's oblivious and retarded to a faultshe doesn't even fucking realize kris was opening dark worlds and you're expecting her to catch on to kris liking her
>>741879305No, but I had to take her to bed once, she's got heavier.But since I love her, she will never know I think this.
>>741879704Weird route is the peak
>>741878550Arguably the hardest after the knightWill sadly get nerfed probably...
>>741879534nice bait, but for the retards in the back, I my biggest grip is Susie's character assassination
>>741879461Flowery did actually deal damage, but dark worlds are all working on playground RP rules. If you're privy to the true nature of the dark worlds you can just bullshit "actually my dark armor is immune to flower damage" rules.Luckily however, my dinosaur eats quiet people with dark armor.
>>741878746>let's do something crazy>don't let go of me, just keep going>kris!>keep saying it, kris!>keep going!Allegory by nature is always open to interpretation but I think it's difficult to see two people holding hands and gazing deeply into each other's eyes while slowly easing into a plunge that quickly becomes a frenzied and frantic scramble and saying all that shit without at least going "hrm, kinda reminds me of something".
>>741879602>he didnt choose the blue guy to go uphonestly, good. that shit was depressing.
>>741879721I wish this was true but that lil blue nigga is retarded. When I tried to interrupt suselle he beat me up with a hockey stick.
I remember arguing with some retards who thought Sans ate all the food in the fridge. Where are you now?
>>741879665could've also opened it in another room and then open the door after the initial fountain got closed
>this can't just be our own thing, Kris>we must put more people at risk, Kris>Noelle was very useful, wasn't she, Kris>Berdlywho? Oh, his hand still ruined? Sucks.
>>741879806I sent Bratty because the "Your fault, you do it" option sounded funny
At the end it will be revealed that everyone is gay, yes, even Sans.
What would you guys do if you were in charge of writing chapter 5?
>>741879665I assume it's something like the chapter 4 dark world where you can open multiple fountains in different rooms in the same building and it still counts as one dark world.
>>741878143You might be a faggot but you're cool in my book. I feel pretty much the same.
As Beautiful as Chapter 5 is visually. I can't help but see its beauty as dishonesty. It's such a big departure from the original art style of Undertale and Deltarune, all the soul is sucked out for these overpolished visuals with no room for tackyness and jank.
>>741879821same people who fell for kris not being able to break into their own house
So why doesn't Green talk?
>>741879556fan artists are too scared to make Noelle look ugly. You have to warp the face and the mouth placement to capture that perverted derangement. picrel is the closest I've seen so far
>>741879676But anon Catti was a crying cuckold this chapter. Now Catty she won bigly
>>741879894*shrugs*
How do you deal with a hyperactive brat that throws knives bros?
>>741879548>posted it again
>>741879353How the fuck would Kris strike a deal with something that can't ask for what it wants?
>>741879894*waves*
>>741879665I think they were hanging out in the dark world and waiting with the plan of opening a new fountain at the same time they saw the light of the SOUL beginning to close the first one.
>>741879894Actions speak louder than words, being 'Kindness' and all
>>741879867Toby "change it because it looks to good" Fox when the possibility of making money is presented to him:
>>741879867im sorry man but undertale is an ugly ass game flat out
>>741875690Actually i would be down for the 2d platformer mechanic to just appear in hometown, would be kino to walk around Hometown and just see that fucking statue just, there
>>741879950you talk at it
>>741879946
>>741879894mute?
>>741879894So they don't have to actually write to make the character "the best">WOAAH GREEN YOU ARE THE BEST. YOU ARE AMAZING OH MY ANGEL, DAAAMN GREEN YOU'RE SO COOL!
>>741879927Ritalin
>>741879548>Zoomers are too sexless and Millenials too irony-pilled to be able to appreciate sincere allegorical parallels about violating someone's autonomy>It has to be either black or white, no room for nuance. Please don't put the thoughts in my head!this game attracts autists, so i'm not surprised. Let me spell it out for you: rapeposting is a fucking meme, retard.
>>741878771i literally have more questions than ever with sans, seriously what the FUCK happened to him?
>>741879742I think Deltarune's biggest strength and weakness is being a sequential chapter game. I think a lot of things that don't make sense now will make sense later when we have the full picture. Susie IS being weird and if the Susie-Asgore parallels mean anything, it IS going to be addressed.
the music was shit
>>741879927You want me to say rape don't you
>>741879556BasedShe is better as a long-faced awkward looking freak
>>741878143nah you're not tweaking anon I was expecting the festival to be central to the plotthere wasn't even a charred garden or jealousy or whatever the prophecy said
>*Keep saying it.
>>741879894each flower has some disability, green is mute, blue is gay, yellow is suicidal, aqua is a kid, seth is nonbinary, orange is a rat and flowery is anime
>>741879927teach her how real humans work through their energy (hint: it's $$$)
>>741879856>Susie ditches Noelle at the beginning of the Festival to search for the Shelter code in the Holiday Manor while everyone is distracted>Kris tries to avoid Noelle but ultimately takes pity on her isolation>Ferris Wheel ride, they don't have anything to say to each other>Dark World is much darker and somber, Asgore opens the fountain and the Dark World reflects its interiority.>There's some comedy, but the Dark World is much like the ROOTS room from Chapter 4, a Dark Souls-esque dying land with the undead roaming aroundThese were my ideas as to what would actually match the tones the story was setting up and the characters, thoughts?
The roaring knight couldn't fucking handle bumping into a wall kwab
>>741879704The undefeated schizo king
>>741879927check, spin, care
>>741879569Thank you.I am deeply unsatisfied.I was satisfied.Semi-subconsciously I had so much riding on the qualityslop that when it started to disappear and wither away, here and there, that effected me way more than it should.I really, really, really want another crutch, another world of adventure and wonder.More than I wanted a cigarette ever.I’ll do my best.Thank you for being here, anon.
>>741880045>>741878771i still think about what could POSSIBLY be the explanation for Sans being in both gamesthere are a lot of characters that seem more powerful than they let on but for some reason they can't stop this very obvious apocalyptic thing from happening?
I feel like Toby is just inept and he doesn't understand how this shit looks from the side, like how he made Toriel less shitty at the beginning with the key, Sans only taking ketchup, how Asgore and Kris used to stay up late and loud so it's not as bad Toriel did it this time.
>>741880194WALL-SAMA... is STRONG.
>I going to kill the guy who made the fountain and parade his broken body along the streets!*knight who made the fountain shows up*>...
>>741878610Is it even possible to do it manually? I feel like some jumps later can't be done because you have to jump from Ralsei, ACT and land on Ralsei on a new spot, and I don't think he can do that fast enough when you do it manually.
>>741879789>teens who show no sign of having watched porn>hardcore porn dialogueMaybe stop projecting?
>>741880049
>>741880156Seems to have been metaphorical? That red ass lakefront with the sunset + Kris jealousyVery lame resolution, when what people were expecting was an Asgore, or Ralsei, or Noelle meltdown and the fucking Roaring to pop off
>>741880045>2 chapters left>thinking that we'll get literally anything other than a vaguepost 2 minutes before the credits roll because they need every second to do le quirky dialogue, carpet munching and not-EoE child sufferpornlol
>>741879680kek
>>741877501Toby is a filthy fox loving faggot
>>741880242el muro (forma indestructible)
>>741880246
>>741880246>jobs to a fucking bubble>proceeds to do nothing as his beloved flower gets cut in half
>Asgore: that incident. The terrible incident where something HUGE happened. You know about it. The one that changed everything. The most important incident ever.How come that didn't make Susie ask about it? LMAO! Bet she was thinking "HURR U THINK NOEL WUD LIKE TO KNOH ABOUD DA INCIDENT?!?!"
>>741880042>rapeposting is a fucking meme, retard.I've never seen people defend a meme so furiously as if their lives depended on it
>>741880209Theoretically what would even happen if he got the SOULWould his Darkner form become "real" and he can enter the light world?
>>741880264>teens who show no sign of having watched porn
>>741880234>, like how he made Toriel less shitty at the beginning with the key, Sans only taking ketchup, how Asgore and Kris used to stay up late and loud so it's not as bad Toriel did it this timeThat's such an obvious damage control. Toby is a terrible writer.
>>741879742>Susie's character assassinationChapter 2?
>>741880258I made the next platform first and then jumped to the new one. You have a split second to do it
>this is a comedy, not a tragedy>*heals Kris*Oh god thats going to happen in the finale as well isn't it
>>741879704ch 4 was my favorite but ch 2 was close behind and spamton is still the best boss
>>741879665shut up stop thinking look at the lesbians so pregressive
>>741880376ok but why wasnt this in the dark world?
>>741880258You can cast a new Ralsei platform while still standing on Ralsei, and jump to it. You have plenty of coyote time.
>>741880348That's the bad part of being in Kris's perspective. Kris already knows so Asgore doesn't feel the need to explain such a painful memory. Pretty sure the little cunt would sabotage any attempts to pry into what went down
>>741880445because he was thinking about susie specifically
>>741880376>projectionCan't you see it's a drawing manual?
>>741879385has the artist never seen any hands before, why are her thumbs on the wrong side
>>741880445Toby needed to release this chapter on the Switch 2, please understand
>>741880445this requires some scholarly contemplation
>>741879385>>741879901>>741880123based long-face enjoyers desu
>>741880470Ah, I kept trying to do it mid-jump, figures.
>>741880445You never leave the living room in the dark world?He's making fun of the retards with this line. It's not a legitimate line of questioning
>>741880042Now look at these supposed memesters who are clearly not grasping at straws to prove the meme isn't a meme -> >>741880376
>>741880348BORN TO DIEDARK WORLD IS A FUCKKILL EM ALL 1989I AM A FLOWER MAN410,757,864,530 VAGUE POSTS
>>741880554the cactus was there though
>>741880527
If you were playing 1-7 straight, do you think Dess being the knight would be all that surprising?
>>741880594don't use my post for your gay slapfight, noellenigger
>>741880554Anon, the cactus RIGHT NEXT to that drawer is in the Dark World
Skimming through these threads, can i unironically make a lot of cash just pandering to self-insert HMOFAfags who just want everything to be unserious porn? Or is this just a very vocal minority?
>>741880617No, it wasn't.
>>741877235MOOOOOOOOOOODS HE BROKE GR15 I SEE A PONY IN THIS
>>741880554If dark fountains only affect specific parts of an area why did the church as a whole get affected?
>>741880594anon, when using 4 channel dot org you have to sift through the retards, cumbrains and secondaries to find the real discussion.maybe reddit is more your speed.
>>741880652It doesn't need to be unserious, actually.
>>741880652You lack talent and intellect so you could never make "a lot of cash" in this or any other field. Hope this helps
>>741880554>>741880656Retard.
And then anon said:>but do you have porn literacy?
>>741880264>hardcore porn dialogueporn did not invent the concept of saying things to the person you're having sex with. It's not necessarily implying that they boned but the subtext is hard to ignore.
>>741879731And who made it possible?
So why did Kris open that fountain?Was he just mad he got cucked?
>>741880652you won't make as much money as you think lmao
>>741880246He was taken by surprise. It's not his fault. It wasn't a fair fight.
>>741880797Doing it for the prophecy I guess
>>741880242we need this meme with the wall and the jobbing knight
>>741880353I don't think he even knows, he was scrambling to find any way to escape his predicament
>>741880156>>741879862I’ll just hug you both.Gives me determination.
>>741880170and "pink" is a trannyor just has literal multiple personality disorder, if you want to be generous
The roaring knight loves catching people off guard because they're a weak bitch that is sub wall level
>>741880797The plot makes no fucking sense at this pointHe went into there and opened a fountain because...Toby wanted to do a chapter in Asgore's flower shop. There was no real need if he just wanted to stall Susie, or whatever other reason.
>>741880642>>741880617Reminder that ch5 reveals plants aren't darkners, the cactus is a living being, which is why its in the sword route too
>>741880652they like talking and thinking about it a lot more than actually seeing it usually
>>741880797He's working with the knight to kidnap Asgore.
>>741880797The Knight goes to where the fountains areHe wanted Asgore out of the picture for whatever he (and Carol's) plan is, he knew too much, etc
>>741880656touristsecondaryspeedrunnerthe cactus is the person hiding behind the curtain who's nervous about talking to you, gets upset if youuu flirt with the watercoolers, and gives you the saber10 sword(a cactus needle, saboten is japanese for cactus"
the knight got asgore so easily because it's rudy and they're working together
https://x.com/disdwayen/status/2070096737272729639AIIIEEEEEEE KRISELLEBROS A SECOND PLANE HIT THE TOWERTWISTED SWORD ROUTE IS JUST ANOTHER KEK ROUTE
>>741880613missed a detail
>>741876893Weird Route's still more plausible because Sans's monologue in Undertale has him point out how he "knows your type", the kind of person who'll keep going regardless of good or evil just because you can, which means you have to, which is very much what the Weird Route is.
>>741880797Just a Kris doing Kris things desuHe can't help it, it is all he can do, unless, he changes somehow
>>741880797To further the goals of the Knight conspiracy, which we still don't know much about.
>>741880797Because why not
>>741881087Holy shit
>>741881087YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!1
>>741878143>This chapter gave us next to nothing to sink teeth into.it gave us SOME answers, like what the dark crystals are, the sans workshop pic, ralsei = tree theory, the fact that Susie can see the battle screen and doesn't give a fuck, apparently Ralsei also gets pissed off when Flowery talks too much about how stats don't matter eitheri know it's not the final chapter and we can't have the answers yet but damn
I think the hottest part of the lake scene is Noelle’s voice sometimes becoming way higher pitched but it feels like nobody mentioned that
>>741880975This is probably the correct answer
>the final schizo shadow shard boss>the final starwalker>multiple callbacks to ch1Feels like it's pretty safe to say chapter 6 is gonna have a very different format of pacing from here on out
>>741881212Like everybody mentioned that
Kris is literally a half-corpse only acting on some plan they had with Carol and/or Knight once in few hours without the heart inside him, like opening the fountain and doing whatever he was doing at night, and then just letting you do the rest. Aside from diving underwater when you try telling Susie to get bent, he's incredibly passive, this chapter more than the rest. When Susie and Ralsei eat cheese, he doesn't care. When Susie and Ralsei dig for Yellow, he doesn't care. Probably more.
>>741881271You know exactly who enters the story in chapter 6
>>741881087What if you have three saved files of three aborted routes and you combine them all to make an un-aborted route that transcend a regular non-aborted route? Then abort that route, is it double aborted or quadruple aborted?
>>741881087If you aborted the weird route during chapter 4 you already fucked up and can't get the twisted sword because the thornring is lost.
>>741881328whomst'd
>>741881087
>>741881271It fucking has to because there are like 20 different plot threads to wrap up in only 2 chapters
Glue!
>>741881308so kris is ennard basically
>>741878143No, you're exactly right. This chapter made no sense at all. Especially not after the events of chapter 4.
>>741881212>it feels like nobody mentioned that>implyingI dunno dude, maybe like, pay attention or something ya know?
>>741881087PROCEEDroute chads win again.
>>741881209What are the dark crystals?I must have missed it.
>>741880797People have been assuming this whole conspiracy is about bringing Dess back to lifeWhat is actually being resurrected is Asgore and Toriel's dead marriage. This is why the ch3 dark world was about kidnapping Tory. Ch4 was about gathering church darkners for the wedding ceremony. Ch5 was for kidnapping Asgore.
>>741881526broken dreams
>>741878372>if he didn't go with Susie he wouldn't have to get his heart broken by her telling him her girlfriend needs to join their adventuresI know better than him what he needs.
>Krisellefags are too stupid to keep track of all the event flag variations from the different abort timings, or to understand why Noelle refuses to be alone with them if they pick the option where they make her kill Berdly, scare the hell out of her in her house, and only abort it at the last moment where she now hates them
I swear Seam used to be more subtle. He basically announced his impending betrayal this chapter.
So after this chapter's weird route is Noelle still a Sub or has she switched to a Dom now?She was practically forcing herself on Kris this chapter
>>741871852>literally never wears the coat and only carries it around for the cool factor>otherwise it just disappears
So...are we getting more rape later or no?
>>741881578Oh my, my dark crystal is from comparing that chapter 2 ferris wheel with the real thing, lol.Quite a fitting allegory for the festival.
>>741880690Fucking BASED CHAD post
>>741881578Which makes no sense because why does Mew Mew randomly have a crystal when they get their dream in the end?I really expected to find a crystal in Flowery's soil at the end considering how he literally talks about how their dark world is a FLOWER'S DREAM like a dozen times, and in the end that dream is brokenI think shadow crystals being made of "determination" fits way more with how you find them in the game
>Hurr Kris wanna close your eyes and durr?I'm fed up with all these stupid scenes
>>741881087That's not a cucked Kris routeThat's a cucked (YOU) route
>>741881754Top expression is clearly Absolute DisgustAny anons know what the bottom two expressions are trying to convey though?
>>741881873>>Hurr Kris wanna close your eyes and durr?Ralsei literally doesn't ask you to do that in this chapter, and if (you) select that option of your own will he says he's tired of doing that.
>>741881967bottom right: Crazy Bitchbottom left: Crazier Bitch
>>741872323>EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SERIOUS OR IRONICHe is a played-straight anime cringe man. He is based.
>>741881990it "literally" happens twice in the chapter you fucking retard and each option shows missable dialogue
>>741881990I know but it's almost the fucking same and then you do it to see what Ralsei is doing
>>741881967she has that expression when she says "they don't know how INTERESTING" you areit's like an expression of "they don't know what i know" or "they are all blind except for you and me", like laughing at how the rest of the world just follows their pre-determined roles
>>741882046Ralsei does not ask you to do that. The option comes from (you) and Ralsei tells you not to do it. You are fucking illiterate
>>741881754Top is when she sees you washed your penis when she told you she wants to clean it herselfBottom right is when she sees you left some cum stains for herBottom left is when it reeks and is aged for her pleasure and tasteNoelle truly is a gross masochist
so given the prophecy mindrape theory, what do we think of the "When did you start being yourself?" line from the titanspawn fight?
