How are these two even debatable? PSP completely blew out DS, it's not even a fair comparison. PSP was a smartphone before smartphone with near power of PS2. Only poorfags cope and defend DS and their flash game shovelware
DS's library fucking spanks the PSP's, PSP is better for multimedia>near power of PS2*PS1
What's there to debate? I got both.
>>741873339More games on the ds Little nigger.
>>741873339>PSP is a better multimedia device>DS had more interesting libraryI like both.
What games are even on the PSP
>>741873339PSP legit has no games
>>741873339>PSP was a smartphone before smartphoneSmartphones pre-date the PSP tho...
psp games are too ambitious and try to replicate a home console experience. the ds has a lot of interesting games designed with portability and the hardware in mindalso many psp games are simply compromised ports
>>741873576It's really funny knowing part of Mega Man going into hibernation for 10-15 years was they went with the PSP instead of the DS to put two 2.5D remakes of Mega Man and Mega Man X onto, and the PSP's notoriously bad software sales meant those two games probably sold fuck-all
>Buy PSP>Play Nintendo games on itI think literally everyone did this instead.
>>741873437>muh libraryshitting out shovelware 2d flash games and slapping pokemon and mario on them, which you look back at with nostalgia goggles is not that big of a feat>PS1No, PSP was stronger than PS1 and could play many PS2 games, that's why I said near power of PS2, PSP was PS 1.5
>>741874018I recall the PSP being a really shitty option for emulating anything that wasn't an NES or Game Boy/Game Boy Color for a very long time, it's roughly equivalent to a PS1 in power after all>>741874108>and could play many PS2 gamesWhat??????
>>741874165>I recall the PSP being a really shitty option for emulating anything that wasn't an NES or Game Boy/Game Boy Color for a very long timeYeah?I was emulating GBA and SNES when I had mine, it's how I played Earthbound.
>>741874165NTA, but there's plenty of PSP games that are literally PS2 games with worse textures.
>>741874312When the console's homebrew scene was actually fresh, mind>>741874348I'm aware the system gets away with PS2 level fidelity on some games but it also does that with either very tight corridor constraints or with heavy use of LOD models/not rendering anything in the distance at all, like Ratchet & Clank Size Matters
>>741874165>>741874108>and could play many PS2 gamesThis is like saying the 3DS can play Wii games because there is a Xenoblade port.Correction;>PSP had a few gimped PS2 portsVita can't even play PS2. Why would 2006 hardware be able to?
>>741874427Every time I think about the PS Vita I see red>hall effect analog sticks, but the sticks are trash quality and start to drift anyways>GPU likes to melt itself after enough time>OLED screen, but early adoption OLED so prone to burn-in>back touchscreen to ape the DS without understanding why it worked for the DS, up to and including going a capacitive touchscreen instead of a resistive touchscreen + stylus>3G SIM card connectivity just as 4G was encroaching>proprietary memory cards>literally instant abandonment of the console after even Sony stopped believing their own "POWER.... OF THE VITA" marketing
>>741874808I never got the Vita handheld, but the Vita TV is good.I pretty much just use it for PS1 games now
>>741873339I like both for different reasons. Both systems have games that simply wouldn't exist in today's modern jewish gaming industry.
>>741873339and yet the psp didn't have decent shump games like liberation maiden, decent kh games like kh coded, decent ideas like twewy, decent farming games like rune factory and original srpgs like stella glow and lord of magna. all the better 7th dragon games went to the ds, and the better phantasy star game that wasn't just a port of universe went to the ds. on the otherhand the psp is just way better hardware and form factor and is backward compatible, it should have won but didn't get enough backing or localization because the psp was an entirely new entry and the vita was just consumer unfriendly.
>>741875631It was genuinely embarrassing how much better a game re:Coded was compared to BBS, and also really embarrassing Dream Drop Distance didn't follow re:Coded's mold instead of BBS's
>>741875631>and is backward compatibleSo is the DS.
>>741873339Big talk from someone without Dragon Quest or and a good version of Persona 3. Also the DS KH spinoff and Strange Journey beat the breaks off any PSP game, hardware be damned.
>>741874108name 10 groundbreaking PSP games.
>>741876306What do you mean by "groundbreaking"?Do you just mean "good"?Let me know and i'll try my best
>>741873339They're both good, though the DS edges it out for having more stable hardware, the early models of PSP, especially the 1000 with the smeared ass screen, were kind of shit.But if you hack them both, it's really tough. Both libraries are great, especially for RPGs. Personally I go for the PSP since it had Ridge Racers 2 and two great Wipeouts.>>741874883I still kick myself for not buying a PSTV when they were on clearance like 8 years ago. Would've made a damn fine mini emulation station.
>>741877680Are they expensive or something?I bought my PS TV for £50 on ebay this year.
the castlevania games alone blows the entire psp library out of the water.
The PSP is better if you mod it so you can access the myriad games that never got imported.But during it's time, with the games we could play, the DS had the edge.
>>741873437DS library was 90 percent mobile tier, casual games. Some of Nintendo's worst and most forgettable games released on DS (and 3DS)the only good games they made for it was mario kart ds, tetris ds, wild world and one of the the Kirby games. So many potentially good games were ruined by forced touch screen controls. PSP had actual consoles games sometimes with additional content not watered down casualized versions with touchscreen and microphone crap.
>>741878737Sorry anon but The World Ends With You alone clears everything on the PSP that isn't Dissidia 012
>>741873339I really like both. I generally lament the death of the portable market because it was like a continuation of the previous generation of consoles, and the format of games being as complex as console games but designed for shorter sessions always appealed to me.Interestingly, I would say the 3DS feels more like the PSP than the DS does, considering how ambitious and modern the PSP was made to be.>>741876306First thing that comes to mind is Monster Hunter Freedom. I know there's a vocal contingent that will yell about the series going portable, but it made a lot of sense and I think it's where the series was at its best. It took the PSO formula and set the standard for how multiplayer-focused handheld games should be structured.But that's all that comes to mind. I think Patapon was a great idea, but I wouldn't say it was groundbreaking. Just for fun, what would you consider 10 groundbreaking DS games?>>741875631>and the better phantasy star game that wasn't just a port of universeThat's a bit disingenuous, especially by the time you get to 2i. I did like that experiment of making a unique game for each handheld, like they did with Harvest Moon.
>>741873339PSP had no games
Sony should capitalize on the stagnation in hardware advancement and millennial/zoomer nostalgia to pump out a PSP2. Mix the PSP and Vita's form factors, make it compatible with the full size console as a controller and price it at $249.
>>741879609>PSP2You mean the Vita?
>>741873339Both were great and peak of handheld gamingDS was better for RPGs and adventure games while PSP had better action and racing games
>>741873339Okay but the DS had actually good games.
>>741879609PSP nostalgia from zoomers is not even authentic. People who were there at the time knew that the PSP had no games and was shit compared to the DS, they just bought it as a cheap way of emulating Nintendo consoles in handheld form. The PSP is just the latest subject for jewtubers to promote as the "retro device" to buy. Once that content well is dry, you'll be seeing zoomers move on to the next flop console, pretending that they loved it and are nostalgic over it. They'll buy it on eBay to make a short of them booting up some game and playing it for 30 seconds, and then it will go in their closet to collect dust.
>>741873339ds was the most embarrassingly weak console ever conceived and the start of nintendo's endless gimmick shit
>>741873339PSP was more like an accelerated PS1 with the herky jerky polygon thing fixed. And it was only a proto-smartphone if you hacked/modded it
The DS library completely cumflates the PSP, sorry but it's true.
>>741878737>PSP was a smartphone before smartphone>DS library was mobile tierno consistency
>>741880175nta but both were shitty endeavors designed to sell kids shovelware slop
debate?
>>741880112Sony's library has been mogged by Nintendo's in every single gen. Yes, including 5th and 6th gen, where Nintendo won the quality-over-quantity war. Some of the funniest vidya-related shit I ever read involved some PlayStation fans getting together to whine that nobody ever talks about their forgotten IPs and that Nintendo titles dominate the nostalgia discourse. Sony's libraries were vast, but ultimately forgettable.
>>741873339All the hardware in the world doesn't matter if you have no games
>>741880063>the startGimmicks have been their thing since Duck Hunt on NES my nigga.
>>741880335>PSP was about as successful as the GBAnot bad desu
>PS2 games on PSPWhat the fuck is that thread?
>>741880464>Cost more than double the GBA>Almost non-existent game salesYikes...The profit margins must have been low
>>741873339Okay, but where are the games?
>>741880112agree. that pic is only the tip of the iceberg>>741880352don't do that
>>741873339anon, different audiences. I grew up with the ps2/psp. So I prefer them. But I've been playing the ds games lately, they are not bad.
>>741880623Yes, it's impressive that on their first attempt at a handheld console, they were able to sell 80 million units at that price point. >Almost non-existent game salesVery high piracy. I remember gaming media pointing out that the sheer amount of torrent downloads for the GTA Stories games. People could just buy a PSP and then immediately start pirating games for it, no mod chips or flash carts etc required.
>>741880741What emulator is that?>>741880846>Yes, it's impressive that on their first attempt at a handheld console, they were able to sell 80 million unitsGameboy was Nintendo's first too, and how many did that sell?
>>741880636check the wiki
>>741880908there is only one psp emulator I'm aware of. ppsspp.https://www.ppsspp.org/
>>741880908Game Boy didn't have a handheld that had already been single-handedly dominating the market for decades to compete with.
>>741881034>a handhelda company*
>>741880991The chinkheld behind the psp is what I'm referring to.>>741881034I don't know what point you are trying to make.
PSP had the single best performance of a handheld up until that point, vast majority of "can't miss" DS games were still 2D platformers or had extremely basic 3D graphics. PSP was more powerful than the PS1, close to PS2 levels, and had several games that were console level quality while DS still somewhat languished. DS network features were almost non-existent, while with the PSP you had an incredibly expansive set of network features, you could download DLC and games via the PS Store and play multiplayer, as well as download TV and films. PSP had better network features than the PS2, and between the DS and PSP, the PSP had the more diverse library (not relying heavily on japanese devs) and was far superior in terms of actual technology. A simple way to look at it is to consider that Rockstar made several portable GTA games during this time period. Their efforts to make a PSP-first title resulted in Liberty City Stories & Vice City Stories. Their efforts to make a DS-first title resulted in Chinatown Wars. One is a near console quality port (albeit with downgrades), while the other is a reimagined retro-styled spin-off. That's what they were able to accomplish with the tech at the time.
>>741880737>don't do thatNo, I will do that. Snoy fans need to regularly be put in their place or else they shit up the whole board. We're getting threads where they try to fucking make a flop like the PSP out to be a success, for fuck's sake. Next we'll be having threads about how the PS3 was a great console.
>>741881242ayn thor.
>>741881246>vast majoritystopped reading>>741881251you're disrespecting ps1-3 hard. the offerings on nintendo consoles were way worse those gens. ps3 was a great console. better than the wii.
>>741881527How is it? I don't use things like this cos I love my physical games too much.
>>741881534>ps3 was a great consoleYeah, with a shit library.Seems to be a trend with sony.
>>741881609its good. expensive but very flexible in terms of what it can emulate. I've been able to emulate up to switch and windows games.
>>741881693dekinai cope
>>741881246https://youtu.be/hd6WGMIXJTw?si=des8pf06nd8e8Wkl&t=408Rockstar are just lazy bongoloid developers who can't optimize for shit. This much smaller French team made a 3D open world game on DS that runs at 60FPS.
>>741880352nah, nintendo's had the worst console every gen
>>741880908seen this nigga post it a bunch of times i think its a ayn thor
>>741881251>>741880352lmao Tendies are truly delusional
>>741881823Neat.Idk why you'd want a 3DS that plays Switch games, but that's cool IG.
>>741881242>I don't know what point you are trying to make.Because you are american and your third-world education system made you retarded. Nintendo cruised into a wide-open handheld market and became the dominant brand name for decades, to the point where their brand name became associated with handheld gaming itself. Sony had to fight an uphill battle to establish themselves and ended up selling 80 million units, which must be a respectable number since Nintendo fans insist that the N64's 33 million and Gamecube's 22 million don't qualify them as being flops.
>>741880112Surprised you included Dementium there, it was nice but the sequel was definitely better
>>741881985its the flexibility. I don't have to decide between switch or 3ds. I can carry one thing.
>>741881985it doesnt actually play them lol. it's just for reddit posts and tiktok clips
>>741880076The multimedia functions of the PSP had nothing to do with homebrew.>>741880175You have no reason to believe those statements were made by the same person. Even if they were, you have to have zero context of the machines to think they're conflicting statements.I think that one guy is being overly harsh about the DS library, though. I would definitely say that the DS is "easier" to have fun with because the best games are known without a second thought and often ask less of you than a lot of the PSP library, but I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I own(ed) both and if I was told that starting tomorrow I could only ever play their two libraries for the rest of my life, I wouldn't complain.
>>741881693I dunno mate, I was having a blast playing titles like 3D Dot Game Heroes, Demon's Souls, Dragon's Crown, Motorstorm, Drakengard, Wipeout etc as a nice break from the Wii's retarded forced waggle controls. The Wii had a lot of potentially-great titles but they were were just obnoxious to play. DKC Returns was the straw that broke the camel's back, with the fucking waggle just to make DK roll.
>>741881997>No argument>Resorts to insultsOof.Concession accepted
>>741881904This looks like shit
>>741882306>It has 3 good games>That means the library wasn't shitHaving a good library =/= "I like the library".It means having a high quality variety of games for all players. The PS3 is a great console, I own one.I exclusively use it for PS1 and PS2 games now.
>>741882560check the wiki. you're gonna jew every title he names and say it sucks
>>741880352>Sony's library has been mogged by Nintendo's in every single gen. Yes, including 5th and 6th gen>>741881251>they try to fucking make a flop like the PSP out to be a successHow much of a low IQ nigger do you have to be to instantly discredit your post like this? Lmfao.
>>741875631>liberation maidenThat's 3ds lil gup
>>741882854Why would I do that?Like I said, I own a PS3. It has like 2 good exclusive games now.
>>741883019no chud actually it has 0(lurkers: check vsrecommended wiki)
>>741873339Original DS Library is pretty bad. PSP had impressive exclusives, I really liked 3rd birthday na dthere is an excellent port of Def Jam FFNY really a lot of games that rek anything on DS. It only sold because pokemon.
>>741873437This. The DS had dozens of banger games. The PSP library was mostly failed attempts to adapt a console franchise to a portable, or ports/remakes of obscure JRPGs. As a JRPGfag I got more mileage out of the PSP than any other platform besides PC but for the average consoomer the DS is better.
>>741883150>It only sold because pokemonOriginally it sold because Nintendogs.I can't believe how well that shit sold, seemed like everyone had it
>>741873339>>741873437fpbp. PSP is a technical marvel but Nintendo had a better demographic and so people just made more, better games for it.
>>741882560>It means having a high quality variety of games for all playersSaying this and then acting like there's no argument to be made between Sony and Nintendo from 5th to 7th gen is pretty fucking nuts. Objectively speaking.
>>741883246>ObjectivelyYou are using that word incorrectly.But what's your issue? I'll listen.
>>741883150>I really liked 3rd birthdayYou mean the game that killed the Parasite Eve series
>>741873339I have a new 2DS XL and a Vita and couldn't be happier. They of course play DS and PSP games and emulate a ton of earlier systems, so their library is practically infinite. I used to have a DS and a PSP, but the DS has a shitty small screen and the PSP's analogue stick is garbage. They both sucked in different ways. 3DS and Vita just makes DS and PSP games so much more enjoyable.
>>741875703I remember replaying both ds titles with melonmix and I was surprised by how fluid feeling recoded was compared to 358/2
Ridge Racer PSP >>> Ridge Racer DSCasltevania definitely had better DS gams
>>741879984The PSP kicked ass, the only real issue with it was the fact that cartridge tech wasn't fast enough yet so they went with discs.
>>741884509>cartridge tech wasn't fast enoughCarts have no moving parts, they are faster than CD's.They just hold less data.
>>741884509>The PSP was assAgreed. DS mogged it hard
>>741880440>Duck Hunt A light gun peripheral was available for the Magnavox Odyssey even earlier. However fittingly for the conversation, the plastic shell for it was actually from Nintendo's line of Kôsenjû SP toy guns.
>>741886214I know.I didn't say Nintendo invented light guns.
>>741884656It wasn't just the amount of data you could store - data transfer speeds were too slow. Games would have needed to be installed to the system but storage was also expensive at the time.
>>741876306>name 10 groundbreaking PSP games.there are more than that for their time, several are ports, and there are a few which only fit the specific form factor, but if you were to fill your psp:The best ports1. Blazblue2. Breath of Fire 33. Crimsom Gem Saga4. Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness5. Dungeon Travelers 26. Everybody's Golf7. God of War: Chains of Olympus8. Guilty Gear9. Gurumin10. Initital D Street Saga11. Locoroco12. Lumines13. Monster Hunter Portable 3rd14. Me and My Katamari15. Nuga Cel16. Puyo Puyo Fever/15th Anni/717. Ridge Racer 218. Star Wars Battlefront series19. Tales of Eternia20. WRCThe Emu Zone1. Chocobo Racing2. Digimon Rumble Arena3. Gaia Seed4. Jade Cocoon5. Jurassic Park Warpath6. Pokemon TCG Neo7. Rampage Universal Tour8. Threads of FateThe best reimagines1. 7th Dragon 2020-II (the original and vfd are better)2. Crisis Core3. Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep (took until coded to balance the command deck reload speed)4. Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects (no platformer campaign mode)5. Persona 3 Portable (this doesn't include the answer expansion)6. Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity (at infinity levels, all the mobs default super armor and can't be juggled)7. Resistance Retribution8. Star Wars Force Unleashed (massive 3d platforming story and exclusive force duels mode)9. The 3rd Birthday (homage but not really an entry in the series)The originals1. .hack//link2. Adventures to Go3. Black Rock Shooter4. Busou Shinki5. Cladun6. Criminal Girls7. Dissidia 0128. DJmax Black Square/Clazzi9. Fate Tiger Coliseum10. God Eater Burst/211. Grand Knights History12 Jikandia13 Lord of Arcana/Apocalypse14 Minana Iyar Chronicles15. Prinny I wanna be the hero16. Tales of Radiant Mythology16. Zettai Hero Project (Play guided fate paradox instead)>but whats your contender for most groundbreaking?well its gotta be god eater 2 right? or dissidia 012 imo. please don't make me say doa paradise.
>>741873716Smartphones weren't widely adopted until several years later.
>>741873339I prefer the PSP, but the DS still had a handful of really good games. The Castlevania games, SMT: Strange Journey, the Advance Wars games, and TWEWY are good enough to carry the console.
I had both and PSP was better hardware/software but NDS game library is goated, psp has very little games - also not having 2nd analog was retarded, every game that used 1 stick needed 2
>>741887394Is this really the best the PSP can offer? What an atrocious library. Absolutely abysmal. Imagine being a zoomer who got memed by an e-celeb into picking up a PSP and then when you go to look at the library it's just this slop.
>>741887758Not having a second stick worked perfectly fine for the 3DS, Sony just doesn't know how to get good games on their hardware.
>>741873339as someone who loves the PSP. The DS had better games.
>>741873339You know what's always annoyed me in conversations about the PSP? The lying that happens.>it's as strong as a ps2>it can emulate SNES flawlessly (sure, with frameskip)>It has good battery life>>741886965>Hurr just buy a memory stick adapter (yeah, NOW. Then you couldn't)PSP is super good at a few things, like MH on the go, PS1 emulation, etc. But I never understand why people have to fucking lie about it.
>>741889040>PSP is super good at a few things, like MH on the goThe PSP MonHun games are dogshit, not worth playing. The 3DS and Switch are way better for MonHun on the go.
>>741889040PSP was infamous for having godawful MH controls due to the lack of second analogue stick. It had the horror tier claw grip that destroyed your carpal tunnels.
why does literally everything have to be reduced to THIS THING WAS BETTER THAN THAT OTHER THING FUCK YOU with you peopleit's so tiresome
>>741889490I wasn't comparing the two. When the PSP was relevant, it was THE way to play MH portably. The DS did not have any titles. Obviously today I am not whipping out the PSP even to play FU. Why even bring up the switch of all fucking things? Switch is not a great way to play MH. 3DS or PC.
>>741889793Just because the PSP was shit compared to Nintendo's offerings doesn't mean this happens with literally everything. Blame Sony for their incompetence at getting good games on their platforms.
>>741889793because honest threads of discussion about x topics die without repliesyou need to do a bit of trolling to get some bumps so people find your thread and start talking about stuff
>>741889040Absolutely no one has ever said the PSP was as powerful as the PS2.
>>741889769Prior to the N3DS nub, 3DS was not much better. FU was still amazing to play portably at the time.
>>741889931Sorry, NEARLY as powerful. Happy now? And yes, plenty of retards thought because it had things like MH or God of War, that meant it was "basically a PS2"
>>741889853>Why even bring up the switch of all fucking things? Switch is not a great way to play MH.The Switch MonHun titles are excellent and are a million times better than the shitty PSP entries. >PCNot good for MonHun on the go, retard
>>74188844020 years ago the PSP also doubled as a basic internet browser with primitive flash game support, a universal remote control in the 1000 model, an image viewer e.g. magazines, documents, manga, a walkman, a portable video player and a file storage device. you could also run psp minis like zenonia and beats, and homebrew such as those based on doom like halo solitude. it also supported features like internet radio and rss. battlefront multiplayer even had voice chat via the microphone and it was the era where online multiplayer was free. and the 3000 had ghosting but was brighter, somewhat more visible in sunlight and more vibrant and improved several games and worsened some, but had a better processer. all this pushed it ahead of the ds that promoted being a pda. if not for companies supporting the ds and pokemon the ds would probably have been toast.
>>741873339I like both but the DS really just had the better library. got lots of use outta my hacked PSP as a portable PS1 though
>>741890108>a bunch of shit that has nothing to do with gamingIs snoy ever going to understand what the point of a gaming device is? Literally all they need to do is have good games on their hardware, it can't be this difficult.
>>741873339>PSP was a smartphone before smartphone with near power of PS2. Only poorfags cope and defend DS and their flash game shovelwareConsoles are about exclusive games, games are about gameplay, gameplay comes from creativity and NDS brought new stuff into gameplay design. Nintendo DS is better despite both had great games.>muh hardware power>muh poorfagsCope.
>>741890028>NEARLY as powerfuWhich is basically true. It was a lot closer to the PS2 than to the PS1 in terms of graphics and performance.
I had both
>>741887394He said groundbreaking; everything in your list are games that were done in the PS2 era and better. PSP has a solid library but slim to none groundbreaking titles.
>>741890323>NDS brought new stuff into gameplay designit was just shit you do on a pc by clicking on things on a screen, only instead of a mouse cursor you use a stick
>>741889947eh 3DS games added the soft lockon if you didn't want to wrestle with the touchscreen dpad for the camera which is what I opted to use. Would've done the claw but the nub being above the Dpad made that kind of hard
>>741890539>it was just shit you do on a pc by clicking on things on a screen,>PC can't even emulate NDS touchscreen 1:1Not the same. The DS' touchscreen is a more specific, due lack of better word, feel. Tech anon could lay down the technical stuff why it's distinct from a smartphone one and using the cursor on pc
>>741874108>could play many PS2 gamesWhich ones? I'm aware of many PSP games which were ported to PS2, like Jak, Ratchet, Motorstorm, and GTA. But I can't think of any that went the other way besides Persona 3, which obviously had to be cut down to work on PSP.
>>741889793I know the older userbase of this site would like to believe otherwise, but the console war bullshit is clear evidence that this board is still majority teenaged, and 20 at most. Do I have favorites when it comes to platforms? Of course. But the complete inability to talk about this kind of stuff divorced from emotion and personal attachment is ridiculous -- not that you even need to do that all time. There's nothing wrong with impassioned discussion, but all of these arguments are colored the same as the flamewar horseshit I saw as a teenager.I think this is really evident in the weird anti-Valve posting lately, with kids who only own one console trying to turn all of PC gaming into a fanbase for Steam and Steam only, not realizing that doesn't make any sense the same way people can point at the Sony or Nintendo ecosystems.
>>741890843Shattered memories was a Wii game ported to psp
>>741876306>>741890529I would like the same list for the DS, please. I am asking earnestly, and consider anyone who replies to such a list with nitpicking faggotry to not be me.
>>741873339>PSPBetter graphics, more must-play games per capita>DSCheaper, came out earlier, larger library, kid-friendly library, secondhand games were everywhere and dirt cheap
>>741890467Me too. The PSP collected dust and the battery went swollen due to neglect. I played the fuck out of my DS.
>>741890972the ds doesn't even have 10 games worth playing, it was basically pokemon + internet, the rest of the library is shitty cheap flash games you would find on newgrounds in 2006
PSP started the no gaems trend for Playstation.
DS continued the no gaems trend for Nintendo.
>>741891059I played both equally, thousand hours in pokemans and thousand hours in pump it up portable
>>741891109You have very right to reply to any post you see, but you obviously didn't say anything relevant to my request so I don't know why you would waste your time.
>>741890843IIRC they share an Armored Core
>>741880352Ps2 ass rapes any other console in existence, asinine faggot fanboy post.
>>741889887An honest thread about the PSP involves discussion that it was a handheld with no games that got dominated by the DS. What you want is a dishonest discussion where we pretend that the PSP was great.
>>741873339I never had a ds but all I ever did on my psp was play the same two games and look at soft core porn
>>741873339The first porn's I ever jerked to were downloaded on my PSP, shoutout pspsex com
>>741891767>no gamesLiterally the only time this meme was true was in the first couple of years of the PS3, and even that ended up being an amazing console.PSP had a shitload of games.
>>741880352>Sony's libraries were vast, but ultimately forgettable.Literally no one outside of nintendo fanboys knows a single nintendo IP other than Mario, Pokemon and Zelda. And Zelda might even be a stretch.
>>7418733393ds piracy is a lot easier
>>741891710PS2 had titles that were B-tier at best, the best and most memorable games that gen were on Gamecube, which is why those are the 6th gen titles people still talk about today. The Gamecube brought inventive titles like Pikmin, the PS2 had a bunch of unmemorable stuff that aged horribly.
>>741891109>the ds doesn't even have 10 games worth playingLet's see:>The world ends with you>Trauma Center duology>999>Ghost Trick>Elite Beat agents/Osu duology>Bleach Dark souls>Kirby Canvas Course>Jump Ultimate Stars>Mario Kart DS>Metroid Prime Hunters>Hotel Dusk>Cooking Mama duology>Rythm Heaven>Sonic Colors DSMore than 10 already.
>>741881251>a flop like the PSP82 million units soldthe thing made sony actual billions
>>741891914>i-it's not a nogames machine anymore! It got better, honest!Nobody believes this btw, PS3 has nothing worth playing
>>741892014>82 million units soldWow, that's it? The DS sold nearly twice that amount, and actually had games to play on it.
>>741892102cheaper tends to do that
>>741892210actually having games to play tends to do that
>>741891949PS2 had all the generation defining games, from DMC, to Tekken, to SotC, to Monster Hunter, to GTA, to Katamari. It's not even worth comparing their libraries; PS2 rapes the fuck out of it.>which is why those are the 6th gen titles people still talk about today. The Gamecube brought inventive titles like Pikmin, the PS2 had a bunch of unmemorable stuff that aged horribly.Where exactly are you getting this nonsense from? A dozen fat transexual groomers meeting up to play Smelee every year? I can go on /vr/ and see far more discussion for PS2 software. I can go on any piracy site and see PS2 titles are far more downloaded. I can go on retroachievements and see it's the most popular console on the site.Again, you're a retarded fanboy faggot
>>741892102that's cool, but it's not the definition of flop
>>741892102Probably ds had a better profit margin too
>>741892313>>741892014>the thing made sony actual billionsNo it didn't otherwise the ps3 wouldn't have eliminated profit for that Gen. Remember, they lost like 5 billion.
>>741892210Didn't work out for WiiU
>>741892282>DMCDecent>TekkenBetter in arcades>SotCoverhyped artsy slop>Monster HunterSeries didn't get good until it was released on Nintendo consoles>GTAAbsolute slop>KatamariDecent title, spiritually a Nintendo IP, is now best played on Nintendo consoles
>>741890529then you have missed the point of a psp entirely. its in the name. play. station. portable. and it satisfied all three criteria and that unfortunately qualifies a ton of ports because making them portable was unheard of. it was also in part visual novel machine with games like fate ccc and persona 3 portable. the problem with the psp was so many titles just weren't localized, in order to tap the library you had to go even deeper. many great games just fell under the radar and didn't get an opportunity like the shining series.
>>741887394>The best portsNah, a solid chunk of those games had less content than their console counterparts or had issues like abysmally slow load times.
Why are you faggots replying again and again to the most obvious bait in the history of this board
>>741890843dantes inferno was a ps3 game on a psp
>>741892572>play. station. portableWith no games to actually play. I suppose you can play music and videos on it. If you wanted games, you got a DS.
>>741892621>or had issues like abysmally slow load times.anon you were supposed to dump the games from your umds and overclock to 333 did you even properly use your psp at all
OHOHOHO HE SAID IT AGAIN XDDDD
psp wins, end of story.
>>741892538>cope>cope>cope>cope>cope>Decent title, spiritually a Nintendo IP, is now best played on Nintendo consoles*worst played
>>741892538>d-doesn't count! Kek, concession accepted. PS2 is better than your favorite console btw, anal gaped fanboy faggot.
>>741892792>psp wins because of some mobile game-tier slop that the average person never even heard ofSony fans have always been the most delusional posters on this board by far. It's bizarre.
>>741886965No, they were faster on cartridges. It's a fact, electricity travels faster than 300rpm of a disc, converted into electricity via a lazer-reader.The benefit of a cart is that it's literally like completing a circuit board, it's lightning quick.
>>741893168>mobile game-tier slop that the average person never even heard ofSurely you realize this describes about 95% of the DS library lmao
>>741892538>Series didn't get good until it was released on Nintendo consoles>spiritually a Nintendo IPare Nintendo adults even human or ai chatbots programmed for mass marketing, so fucking weird
>>741888548So why did they add a second stick to the console?Both with a fuckhuge peripheral and a console revision.
>>741892572>its in the name. play. station. portable.And lacked the groundbreaking titles the Playstation home had, so your logic makes it the portable not playstation portable.
>>741893368Try to play MonHun 1 or 2 these days, it's completely mogged by 4U. And yes, Katamari is exactly the type of game that Nintendo makes, which is why Sony barely marketed it like the retards they are.
>>741893421Because there were a handful of games that could actually use it, so they put the option out there. Unlike with the PSP, where the retards kept releasing games that desperately needed a second stick, to the point where most of the library played like shit and required you to do the claw technique.
>>741892747>If you wanted games, you got a DS.ace attorney, pac pix, scribblenauts, pokemon, trauma center, twewy outside of solo remix, kirby, mario, starfox, fire emblem, golden sun dark dawn, f zero, donkey kong, metroid, castlevania, gta chinatown wars, rune factory, shrek, spongebob, cooking mama, ff3 remake, dragon quest, sonic, kingdom hearts, children of mana, contact, spiderman, lego star wars...are these the "games" you are talking about? because those weren't satisfactory or already peaked with the gba era or other platforms.
3ds emulates the best handheld (gba) much better so it wins
>>741893846>3ds emulates the best handheld (gba) much better? The DS played GBA games perfectly, the thread is about DS vs PSP
>>741893846the psp and phones already did making that a moot point
>>741893968>The DS played GBA games perfectlynah, it had frameskips until 2ds xl
>>741874012 DS got Megaman games too. They used the PSP for the 3D ones because it was simply much better at 3D.
>>741895206>nah, it had frameskips until 2ds xlWhere the fuck did you see that? Every hardware-related resource I've found online says that the DS had the hardware in it so it ran GBA games flawlessly.
>>741893168>Sony fans have always been the most delusional posters on this board by farThey're like that everywhere.
>>741893368He's not wrong, tri Brough a ton of much needed QoL especially where gathering is concerned since nodes disappear when you exhausted them and let's not forget that blights were added in tri too.
>>741874108PSP games are dogshit nobody cares about while DS pokemon games go for $500 despite selling tens of millions of copies. If they were good games they would have a legacy today but they don't and the console is mostly a footnote in gaming history. PSP games are just 3rd rate PS2 games on the go while the DS had innovative games that could not be found anywhere else back then and even today.
>>741893637read the wiki>>741897625>PSP games are dogshit nobody caresread the wiki
