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STEAMKEKS BTFO
The Steam Machine is showing disappointing performance in demanding games:

Cyberpunk 2077 (1440p, Medium, RT) – 28 FPS
Black Myth: Wukong (1440p, Very High) – 20 FPS
Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora (Ultra) – 21 FPS

Key takeaway: the Steam Machine’s performance does not match its price, a regular PC costing $1,049 or more would deliver significantly better results.
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>>741883845
Oh no!
*plays on my PC*
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How does steam have hundreds of millions of users if there is no steam maccine?
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>matched settings
>steam machine is native res
>Piss5 is upscaled 840p
How disingenuous. I'm assuming you're probably brown.
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>>741883845
>a regular PC costing $1,049 or more would deliver significantly better results
oh yeah, i think it was silverstone who was taking potshots at this, they even have an itx case pretty similar in size
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>>741884093
>he thinks steambox is native
lol
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>>741883845
>steamkeks
and where are these "steamkeks", can you point them out for us
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>>741884201
Yes, it's literally a PC. You have full control over your settings unlike consoles. The tests were not run on equal grounds because console versions of games aren't sold on pc to begin with.
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DF always bias everything towards PS because they're owned by sony.
But the Cube is still shit
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Shitposting about Steam has increased considerably recently. I wonder what the reason is?
It's probably not just the release of new hardware, because the Steam Deck has been around for ages, and the "Steam vs. Switch" shitposting back then doesn’t compare to what’s happening now.
Could it be that the cancellation of Steam gift cards has made scammers in India furious?
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>>741884370
>dumb retard doesn't understand what "matched settings" means
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>>741883845
>Matched Settings
>We've let the Steam machine run at 4k native and then compare it to the PS5 running at 740p upscaled ;)
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>>741884262
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>>741885127
>Steam machine run at 4k native
Steam Machine couldn't run a youtube video at 4k
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>>741883845
>would deliver
>would
may we see it?
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>>741884764
>I wonder what the reason is?
Gabe becoming a jew and undoing all the good will from the 'eck. And subsequently ruining his 2nd attempt at killing consoles.
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>>741884938
You quite literally can't match ps5 settings on games because the graphics don't have a setting that low. Maybe if you mod textures out of the game
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>>741884764
It's because the steam machine is a shitty deal
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>>741883845
So it's shit like everything else in this age. Just as expected
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>>741885348
The Steam machine has a RX6600 class GPU. A PS5 has a RX6700 class GPU.
Are you saying a 6600 is more powerful than a 6700?
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>>741883845
>Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora (Ultra) – 21 FPS

Wtf Ubisoft???
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>>741884480
>DF always bias everything towards PS because they're owned by sony.
They bias each "review" towards whoever is paying them that week. They took a horseshoe approach to bias, they don't have a preference, they've gone all the way opposite from fanboyism, through neutrality and come out the other end at "will suck dick for sponsorship."
They are supposedly a "technology" focussed channel that's obsessed with smeary TAA, upscaled DLSS RTX crapware. Why? Because nVidia has a large checkbook. The only reason you think they have a PS5 bias is because Xbox ran out of money. Do you not remember the 5+ years of XbonX supremacy posting while everyone who wasn't a retard bought on PS4 + PC?
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>>741883845
No shit it's worse than a PS5, but why even test it at 1440p with Ray Tracing on Cyberpunk? I have a much better PC and I wouldn't play it like that because I value my frames.
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>>741885487
>Here's some things I just made up
You know you can quite literally google the specs before you type something this retarded.
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>>741885814
Google them. Post the results. Prove me wrong.
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PS5 wins
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>>741885348
This is absolutely not true. Sometimes they have settings between that can't be matched, like a setting between low and medium, but typically PS5 is at least low, because obviously the developer wants the widest range of PC hardware to be compatible and a lot of people have PS5-level hardware (or worse). In this case Digital Foundry either found the console settings or got them from Remedy (I forget which) and used those. Including resolution/upscaling settings.
In the end it's not surprising outdated, low-end hardware is a bit slower than outdated, mid-range hardware
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>>741883845
>ultra, very high, RT
bro the steam machine doesn't have rtx cores
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>>741885867
>google it for me and prove me wrong
No, stay retarded shitskin.
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>>741883845
I played Wukong all on Very high with a 2080 at 120 fps KEEEEEEEEEEEEK
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>>741886107
>AI shit
Lol
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>>741886268
>just believe me because I said so
no.
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But the PS5 is using FSR
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>>741886376
Yea just like >>741885487
Concession accepted.
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whats the framerate of rimworld on ps5
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>>741886465
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Hey can anyone gift me a new Steam controller? I can't afford it on disability.
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>>741886465
>Concession accepted.
that's what people say when they get outed as retarded
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>>741885346
>undoing good will
what
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I'm surprised indians are online in this heat. Shouldn't you all be bathing in your shit to keep cool?
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Lol?
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>>741883845
literally who is playing these gay ass games anymore?
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>>741886874
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>>741885617
that game has some insane raytracing so I'm not surprised
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>Buying a $1500 troonbox
lol
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>>741883845
>lies, propaganda
Keep seething :)
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>>741883845
Literally made for no one. Too expensive for poorfags and babies first pc and too basic for enthusiasts. The only good thing that might come out of this is steamos
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>>741887321
>a thousand bucks is a generational purchase
Get a job. Nobody playing in 2/4K cares about a mid machine anyway. A mid machine that is good enough to run everything, mind you - pc, consoleS, it plays it.
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>>741886874
>>741886959
>sub 60fps
Yikes.
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ps5 550$ + 6 year of PlayStation Plus over 6 years (would be $60 until 2023 and $80 after 2023) 499 + controller replacement for drift 70$ (or repair for $30)=1.119$
lol?
>>741887638
But it offers more than the PS5 and can reach 60 fps if you adjust the visual effects.
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>>741887961
There's another thing we don't consider if you buy a game directly from them; so the Steam Machine is essentially a console without financing provided by the company itself. They recoup their investment in the long run by adjusting for inflation and raising the price. Their profit comes from game sales, which are 30% or 100% depending on whether they're first-party studios. Newer, more expensive subscription plans also help offset this.
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>>741883845
ohnonono
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>>741884093
>Piss5 is upscaled 840p
it's not
cry more Gabenjew sucker. DOnt forget to beg japanese companies for ps5 ports
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>>741883845
Look, the steam machine is retarded, but left objectively looks better.
Its soulful halogen vs soulless led.
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>>741883845
Look at my fuckin face. Do I really look like a guy who gives a fuck about a loser 4chan thread? I've already put in my order and organized the perfect spot for it in my livingroom entertainment area.
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>>741886959
>>741886874
why does this look worse than prime 4 on switch 1?
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>>741883845
how is alan wake 2 running on steam machine, can it play stuff not on steam
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>>741886874
uhhh... snoys? our response?
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>>741883845
Maybe I should buy a PS5. Can it run my non-multiplat Steam games?
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Steamie status: Steamin!
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>>741883845
The Steam Machine is the equivelant of a Ryzen 5 2700x and RTX3060
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he 2026 Steam Machine (shipping since late June) is generally priced at $1,049 for the base 512GB model (up to $1,349 for 2TB), while a base PS5 Slim is significantly cheaper (often $450–650 depending on region/deals). Even the PS5 Pro (stronger hardware, 2TB) lands around $899.
Performance Comparison
The Steam Machine's hardware is roughly in the ballpark of a base PS5, but often slightly behind in real-world gaming benchmarks, especially console-optimized titles:

Specs overview: Semi-custom AMD Zen 4 6-core CPU (stronger than PS5's Zen 2), RDNA 3 GPU with 28 CUs / ~17 TFLOPS (estimated), 8GB dedicated GDDR6 VRAM, 16GB DDR5 system RAM, ~110W GPU TDP. Valve markets it as ~6x Steam Deck and capable of 4K/60 with FSR upscaling.
Vs PS5: In many cross-platform tests (e.g., Digital Foundry), the PS5 edges it out or matches it closely at 4K/60 with upscaling. The Steam Machine can pull ahead in CPU-heavy scenarios or with tweaks/FSR, but it struggles more in some GPU-bound modern games without lowering settings or resolution (sweet spot often native 1440p). PS5's tighter optimization, unified memory architecture, and custom hardware tuning give it advantages in first-party and many third-party titles.
It has benefits like better modding potential, full Steam library access (including Proton improvements), VRR/high-refresh support on PC monitors, and a more open platform — but raw console-style performance isn't beating the PS5 consistently.
Why the Higher Price and Underperformance?

Component costs and no subsidies: Unlike Sony/Microsoft (who often sell hardware at a loss to make money on games/services), Valve prices it like a premium mini-PC. Ongoing RAM/SSD shortages in 2026 drove costs way up.
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>>741884764
Consolefags are always desperate for their precious few opportunities to shit on steam now that they know pc is slowly crushing consoles to death. They all shat their pants at the machine's announcement, breathed a sigh of relief at the price, and then the gloating began.
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>>741883845
I don't think you can get PS5 performance for $1k in PC parts or 'significantly better'. That doesn't make the Steam Machine a good deal though.
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>>741896250
Steamcucks spent 5 years begging for Days Gone, Spiderman, The Last of Us and japanese ports of Square Enix games

NOw they cant play them because Jewnited States government is using the money of hard working people to build data centers
kek
>b-but 1080ti masterrace ! I'll now play 4K60fps
kek
You were delusional like always
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>>741896603
the 9070xt is like $700 and is vastly better than a ps5. literally just throw that into an old desktop with a new PSU and you just killed sony more than marathon
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>>741896194
thank you chatgpt
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>>741896798
>What is CPU bottlenecks
Depending on what CPU you currently have even upgrading that could be troublesome.
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>>741896730
The only game pckeks cared about was bloodborne and they got it better than any playstation can play it.
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>>741896798
Nobody is retarded enough to buy AMD
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>>741897761
https://youtu.be/QACSZ2S5HLo
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>>741896603
yes you can you idiot?
this is better than a ps5 pro
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>>741898739
>Ayymd
>XFX
lol
lmao even
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>>741898172
you are of correct saar
REDEEM NVIDIA POWER OF AI
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>>741898908
what do you think ps5 pro has?
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>same regurgitated screenshot of a PC parts list which has a weaker GPU and is missing parts to make it actually function like keyboard, mouse, controller.
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>>741899019
Doesn't matter. AMD aren't providing the drivers for Sony consoles
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>>741883845
as it was said already, the hardware itself was only a bait, the real plan was to release the OS which can run on normal PCs
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>>741898934
So indians make better products than AMD. ok?
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>>741899079
>weaker GPU
wrong

>keyboard, mouse, controller.
does a console have a functional operating system that doesn't treat you like goycattle?
that's not even close to the added value of an ewaste snoy controller
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>>741899263
oh yes, all those great drivers recently
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>>741899263
>better products
yeah, the fabled 12vhpwr is an amazing product
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>>741899381
>So retarded he doesn't notice the console is locked to 60fps/
You really showed me there you clueless mong
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>>741899487
>those great drivers
which have worked fine?
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>>741899528
so you have a way to unlock it right? you would not make a statement based on pure theory that will never go into practice?
also no faggot, look at the bottom one, it's still worse when it's not reaching 60
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>>741899514
Yes it's better. Which is why nobody buys AMD
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>>741899734
>the tendie hivemind argument
lol
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>>741899654
Doesn't matter. The images you chose are locked to 60fps on console and you're too retarded to see it.
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>>741899774
the bottom one isn't you cripple
where's the snoy magic there? why is it still below the 9060xt there?
learn to read
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>>741899759
nobody is buying AMD GPUs. If they were they'd show up on Steam Survey.
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>>741899850
Yes it is. If I set my fps to 120fps I get dips to 119 or 118 on occasion.
Why don't you try and discuss things you have a clue about instead of frothing at the mouth like a spastic about things you don't
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>>741899957
where are the dips on the two charts where the snoybox is reaching 60fps then? you're so retarded you're laying down arguments for your own defeat
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>>741900070
Look at the frame time dip. The console is clearly alternating between two modes because it has vsync on at 60fps.
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>>741899865
please continue chanting, nvindian cultist
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>>741884093
>>741884764
>>741886834
The 4chan/alt-right/groyper movement alone won’t sell your console. You have to cater to normal consumers who aren’t in the movement. And a lot of people think $1,000 is too much for a base PS5. Your “SAAR SAAR SAAR!” isn’t working here.
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>>741900162
so it's not capable of actually reaching vsync and is going all out to reach 60fps?
therefore it's not more powerful than a 9060xt?
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>>741900186
>stating facts is a cultist.
You're the one who spends his days pissing his pants about consoles every day of the week.
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>>741900368
>I'm going to pick at a fps dip to 58fps and call it a win
not really. Just sad really
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>>741900441
yes, it dips where the 9060xt doesn't
therefore it's weaker
struggling with basic logic are we londonjeet?
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>>741900504
>reeee console console console
Don't you play games? Can your shit computer even play games?
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>>741900583
don't you have anything better to do than defend the honor of a corporation that hates whites, londonjeet?
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>steam machine based on the average configuration tracked in steam surveys
Turns out the average pc fags setup was not in fact better than a console
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>>741900623
>defend the honour
What am I defending? I'm responding to your retarded shit.
Why are you so invested in PS5 threads? Every single time I come online you're here in a console thread pushing your low spec AMD PC. Nobody is going to buy AMD sanjeet.
Also. Are you planning on upgrading your PC to the Steam Machine?
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>>741900709
>ps5 threads
there is not a single mention of ps5 or sony in the op
you just came here to be a whiteknight for an anti white corpo, londonjeet

the 9060xt 8gb beats the ps5 pro gpu therefore a $980 pc beats a ps5 pro
therefore the ps5 pro is dogshit value considering it's a goybox you don't truly own
those are undisputable facts as evidenced by the fact you turn to feminine screeching and nitpicking because you can't refute the central argument
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>>741900917
>OP image has PS5 benchmark
>Join thread responding to dumbfucks PS5 benchmarks
>"there's not a single mention of PS5"
You're nothing but an insecure little poorfag with a shit computer.
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>>741900685
the average steam user isn't even really a gamer, just the kind of autistic retard who don't think of videogames as a medium with millions of games but rather just one game they like. And if it runs on their toaster they have no reason to upgrade.
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>>741901104
you're nothing but an insecure snoy with low iq
tell me, why would anyone want to buy a snoybox pro over building a pc if the price difference is so small?

actually i'll answer it for you
it's because they're a low iq brownoid that get parasocially attached to corporations that hate them
just like you
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>>741901307
>you're nothing but insecure with your stack of RTX 5090 PCs. It's just insecurity I tell you
fucking lol. Change the record loser.
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>>741901525
yes, you're insecure
why does sony need you whiteknighting them?
you sure as shit don't use facts

go on, give me a reason as to why anyone would want to get a snoybox if they're not iq filtered by pcs
you can't, there is none
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>>741901585
I like games on my PS Pro. I'd rather have my console than your PC. I find it funny watching you wriggle about in your cope about your shit computer. How shit your life is to buy a 9070 , flash it to an XT and then larp online you have a 9070xt, PMSL
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>>741901745
>I like games on my PS Pro. I'd rather have my console than your PC
glad you've narrowed it down to just being a gut opinion
that way no one has to actually take you seriously considering you admitted you're a high time preference thirdworlder too scared of settings menus
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>>741901994
Your PC doesn't perform much better than the Pro console. Not to me anyway. Whatever makes the console shit to you makes your PC to me. There's a larger gap between my PC and your PC than your PC and a PS5 lol
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>>741899514
We need to know what the numbers actually say with that "1000%" increase. That's a 10x increase. Are we talking 20 warranty claims vs 200? 100 claims vs 1000?

We could be talking about numbers so insignificant that "1000% increase" is literally a nothingburger.

Read "How to lie with statistics" by Darrel Huff and you'll discover people use all sorts of tricks to make statistics say what they want them to say.
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>>741902167
see, no reason to be found, you're just a limpdicked bitch that can't actually justify a snoybox on reasonable grounds
please continue lashing out like the high estrogen thirdworlder you are
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>>741902168
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-warranty-claims-value-rose-over-1000-in-2025-setting-an-all-time-high-for-the-company/
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>>741902223
>you must give a reason
No I don't need to give you anything. You're a seething poorfag jeet with a Sony hateboner. Everything you post is pure cope and lies.
>you're a third worlder
Post your hand abdul
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>>741899591
like fine cow piss
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>>741902395
yeah, you don't have to substantiate anything
it just makes you look like a bumbling cretin
if you truly are a casual that doesn't care then you shouldn't even be in this thread

how pathetic, you want to defend the honor of your antiwhite company but with no actual ammunition to speak of
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>>741899865
amd gpu here, never got the steam survey :)
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>All the past 10 years steamcucks dreamed of 4k60fps
>Now they dream of 300 dollars for a 128GB SSD
kek
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>>741902517
post your hand abdul
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>>741902597
>posts getting shorter and shorter
you truly have nothing huh
the snoybox is worthless if you're not retarded
prove this wrong
i'm giving you one more chance, you've proven you're thoroughly buckbroken already and you're out of stamina
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>>741902736
post your hand abdul
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>>741902348
is that graph saying AMD warranty repairs shot up too?
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lol AMD
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>>741902348
I see, I see. That's an incredible red flag then. Each card being valued from $300-3000 (average $1650) nearly a billion dollars in claims means approximately 500,000 cards sent in.

I wonder if AI datacenters have something to do with it as well.
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>>741902856
yes, but it only doubled by comparison
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>>741886874
Why does everything have to run at a silky smooth 40 fps nowadays?
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>>741903027
AMD has a constant average of .5% claims
Nvidia has a >.1% average with increases during the release of new GPUs.
Notice how the cables stopped melting once the retards worked out how to plug the cables in to their 4090s correctly>>741902990
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>>741893528
You do
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>>741896798
Honestly not a bad idea. Get some cheaper DDR4 ram, new CPU, new GPU, stuff it all in the box I already have and this would most certainly be better than the steambox and PS5 most likely.
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>>741903183
and it's going back up again
besides it's not showing how many warranties are being declined, there are fuckloads of stories of nvidia board partners telling people to fuck off over 12vhpwr failures
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>>741903351It’s amusing how some people always recommend buying low-spec PCs with cheap parts. Why not be upfront and tell others these machines are useless for anything beyond browsing eBay unless they invest another $1–2k?
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>>741903546
>Nvidia sell squillions of GPUs to data centers.
>Warranty claims go up
It isn't rocket science is it.
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>>741903716
>machines are useless for anything beyond browsing eBay unless they invest another $1–2k?
consoles can't even do that londonjeet
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>>741884764
people are poorer than ever
and if you dont have a PC you are jealous
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>>741903716
You don't have to spend over 2k to have a decent gaming computer if you don't care about 4k/60.

Also browsing ebay? What year is it.
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>>741903821
Nobody buys a console to browse the internet retard. That's why I have actual computers.
Why do all your retarded stabs give me the impression you're some 12 year old?
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>>741903906
It's 2026. I browsed ebay earlier.
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>>741903778
12vhpwr is objectively a less robust standard than 8 pins, no load balancing, lower safety margin and nvidia's soulless corpo partners are notoriously rejecting warranty claims
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>>741903716
The point is less amazing gaming PC and more good performance for around the same cost as what steam is offering. Like, why would I buy the Steam Machine in my situation? I spent less and get way more.
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>>741903996
Maybe I'm lucky. I've had 4x GPUs with them and they've all worked perfectly.
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>>741904020
You would buy it as an upgrade
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>>741883949
FPBP
Consoletards don't seem to understand that current Steam users aren't buying the Steam Machine. It's for idiots who don't know how to operate a PC.
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>>741904139
>anti white
Post your little brown hand abdul. Stop pretending your parents don't drink cow piss.
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>>741903927
nobody really uses reason to buy a console londonjeet, i agree
you don't mind that performance if it comes out of an anti white corporation branded toybox
because you're too retarded for computers and should just be confined to doing menial labor
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>>741904234
>you're retarded
>so retarded you have a bunch of top spec PCs
>while I'm not retarded and my PC is shit
How does it feel me being retarded and having everything you'll never afford?
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>>741884764
Its because the court case were Rothschild was found guilty of patent trolling Valve and they had to pay up.
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>>741904359
>How does it feel me being retarded
glad you're not hiding it
plenty of retards with money, especially parasites in london like you
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>>741904081
I'll admit I was considering it when it was announced depending on what you got for the price. My current PC is struggling and needs to be replaced. But it's kind of pointless when I could build one myself for the same price and get more out of it.

I dunno maybe I had the wrong expectations and I'm not the target demographic. But it would have been nice.
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>>741904458
I would rather be retarded with a few quid than brown with nothing abdul
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>>741904507
>I would rather be retarded
you don't have to choose
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>>741904624
Isn't it time for you to go to bed. You need to get up early for your scam call centre job. How else will you upgrade your poorfag pc?
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>>741904741
how does it feel to have 80iq?
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>>741904840
Shit forgot. You're the Deliveroo driver aren't you. ha ha
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>>741904914
>Shit forgot.
yeah, i'd imagine you forget a lot of things with this low an intellectual capacity
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>>741885247
You're retarded I'm afraid. I can watch YouTube at 4k using a CPU from 2016, which is less powerful than the steam machine. Steam Machine has AV1 hw decoding anyway.
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>>741905001
yes mr "ding-a-ling" deliveroo driver

Be honet for a bit. Why do you have a hate boner for PS5? You are in every single thread which mentions PS5. Why do this to yourself 18 hours per day , every single day?
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>>741904459
Who is the target demographic for it anyway?
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>>741905184
because consoles have no value beyond their appeal to retards?
didn't i tell you this already?
there's a reason you can't make a case for them, because you're a retard that they count in their target audience
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>>741905546
>I don't like consoles because I don't like consoles
You're not making sense. Why are you in every single PS5 thread. All day every day seething over a console?
I don't like Nintendo. I never even think about entering Nintendo threads.
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>>741905507
That's what I've been asking. I think Steam's idea was an entry level PC for new users? Which I think is a dumb idea because those guys have consoles and have no interest in PCs.
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>>741905507
Probably just rich people who want to have a cube next to their TV.
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>>741905670
i don't like consoles because they offer absolutely fucking nothing beyond support for retards that should be forcibly educated or barred from electronics
and i believe that retards don't deserve to be here
if you want to shill your goybox unopposed go to reddit or whatever low iq gathering spot you frequent

you still can't name one rational argument for consoles that applies to anyone above 100 iq
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>>741905962
>I don't like consoles because I'm a mentally ill faggot who needs to spend every waking moment in a console thread bitching about a console which is better than my shti pc

An argument for console? I have a large library of games on it which I play. I use PSVR2 which is ok and has games which aren't available on PC.
If I had nothing to game on and had to start with nothing I'd choose a PS5 Pro and PS+ along with some £200 laptop over your PC every single time.
For less an £900 I'd have a large library of games. A console able to play them and a laptop for doing everything else.
ok?
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>>741906210
no, sunk cost fallacy and fear of missing out are not rational, they're emotional
try again
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>>741906273
Which part is sunken cost again?
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>>741906372
>I have a large library of games on it which I play.

name a reason why you'd want to play a game on a console over an equivalently specced pc that isn't appealing to retardation
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>>741884093
>>741884201
>>741884938
>>741885348
it is native

and sometimes you simply have to look at the output, not just the numbers, see picrel. circling back to the point above native vs. generated. meaning, even if it is generated and looks better and performs similarly, who cares

if the video caption says 1440p, then that's 1440p native not upscaled
consoles can have have dynamic resolution and there's jack you can do about it and only choose quality or performance

see 27:00 007 where they underlined they used FSR because 007 comes with FSR backed into the game, which is also why you cannot upgrade it yourself by dumping updated libraries in the folder
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWtLi_FqLo&t=27m

same for Forza 26:05, they distinguish with: no DSR for PC

i think they also assume that everyone watches every video and how they usually compare console titles. but at this point everyone knows DF are fucking retarded autists

here's the spec sheet for Crimson and what 'performance' means in Crimson
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uUIBUoJhk8&t=11m20s
Crimson Desert on PlayStation 5 Pro - The Digital Foundry Deep Dive - Digital Foundry - 1.52M subscribers 838K views 3 months ago
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>>741906530
I don't have to choose between them. I have both.
I play some games on console and others on PC.
There's no sunken cost because the console price is basically nothing.
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But the desktop I already have mogs the fuck out of your goystation 5 and xgoy.
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>>741906665
>I don't have to choose between them. I have both.
you failed the breakfast question without me even asking, congratulations
try again

>There's no sunken cost because the console price is basically nothing.
sunken cost doesn't refer to just money
you have a library and you don't want to rebuild it
that's sunken cost
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>>741906789
and the PC I have mogs the fuck out of your PC.
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>>741887019
>some insane raytracing
(extremely blurry reflections only on water)

it's just unoptimized slop.
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>>741906797
every game I enjoy on PC I buy on console and vice versa. You're a seething poorfag trying to rationalise why people spend money.
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>>741906825
Maybe if you have a 5090/blackwell, I just couldn't find one on launch.
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>>741906898
see, you hide behind money every single time you're told to actually use that atrophied smooth pile of shit inside your cracked skull

why would i choose to play a game on a console over a pc
give me a reason that doesn't appeal to retardation or shut up
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>>741906992
Your entire argument is about money you stupid fuck.
>so you don't want to spend money to rebuild a library
I'm responding to your nonsense.
I know you're a poorfag. You've told me. I can tell by the way you squirm and get triggered by it. Poorfag
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>>741907097
my argument is about there being no fucking way to justify a console on rational grounds if you're not fucking retarded
and it's holding up, your 80iq just can't penetrate that argument
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>>741906530
>>741906797
>>741906992
NTA but do you even play vidya, or just mald over other people's enjoyment of it?
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>>741900230
t. Sukhdeep Patel
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>>741907169
For you. You have other things to buy first, like replacing your shit PC.
I don't have that problem. I can buy whatever whenever. A console isn't something I need to justify. I just wake up and think "I'll buy a console" and order a console, it's that easy you insufferable smelly twat
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>>741907180
why come to a board about videogames if you're not willing to discuss the meta realities of videogames?

it's fine to be a casual consolecuck
but if that's what you are then you should fuck off and not kneejerk defend those shitboxes with no reason behind it
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>>741907169
Consoles are more convenient with less troubleshooting.
>t. idort
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>>741904081
So it's for console users. But console users can already buy a PS5 that is powerful than the gaben box. So for who is it exactly?
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>>741907373
>console cuck
But you don't even have a good computer.
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>>741907373
What have you played this year?
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>>741907408
That may have been true at one point but I don't know if that still holds.
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>>741907331
no matter how much charity i give you you just can't give a rational defense for consoles

>>741907408
that's literally appealing to retardation, something i specifically excluded and shouldn't apply to you
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>>741907331
>I can buy whatever whenever.
unemployeds could never possibly understand having disposable income. Everything needs to be planned out and thought on, impulse buys over a few bucks are incomprehensible. If I posted my tcgplayer buy history some broke fuck would all of a sudden be a finance wizard.
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>>741907429
People who like having games to play I guess?
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>>741907513
It's definitely true of the switch, less so the switch 2 and ps5
>>741907540
Nah, convenience saves time is all.
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>>741907549
>you can never understand disposable income
You're a literal poorfag. lol.
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>>741906623
Who are you arguing with? Consolefags are retarded to begin with they choose consoles so they don't have to go through picking up parts for a PC and setting it up, they're the most brain dead faggots out there.
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>>741907649
You can't even quote people correctly, kill yourself. Just going to klarna another goystation, Tyreek?
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>>741907549
I don't work. I retired early. I don't have income. I have everything paid off and no financial worries.
The other retard does deliveroo drops or something
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>>741907625
very little time
you save more time in your life alt tabbing and typing your posts on an actual keyboard than pulling out a phone or a laptop to do so
that time saved ends up being more than actually troubleshooting anything
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>>741907540
>no matter how much charity i give you you just can't give a rational defense for consoles
they play games as good as your shit PC.
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>>741907894
I save more time by not replying to you anymore
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>>741886834
that's the secret captain
it's always hot in india
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>>741907923
my pc is better than the ps6 so not really, enjoy your 54 rdna5 CUs that won't even beat the 9070xt
you don't mind worse performance, you're a cultist that specifically decides whether it's good based on whether it's attached to an anti white corporation's logo and accounts for your crippling learning disability
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>>741908210
If he owns a PC already, why would he give a shit?
Why do (You) give a shit?
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>>741908210
>schizo babble response
did you forget to take your meds again?
My 5090 PC is twice as fast as the PC you're trying to flex with. Stupid fuck
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>>741883845
>Cyberpunk 2077 (1440p, Medium, RT) – 28 FPS
>RT
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>>741908424
he gives a shit because he's whiteknighting consoles on very flimsy grounds
i give a shit because it's a discussion board and i want an actual answer as to why anyone would want a console if they're not fucking stunted enough to need the guardrails

>>741908430
>twice
lol, not even
why are you crying if you don't mind 9060xt level performance if it's in a console?
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>>741908558
You already got an answer: convenience
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>>741908430
>Only twice
>He doesn't have a 20 H-100 GPUs server
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>povertynigs complain about Steam machine prices
>but won't buy a high end PC
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>>741908558
>>twice
>lol, not even
yes it is. Your PC is barely better than a Pro console. I get double your FPS in games. Even more when I run path tracing. You have a literal poorfag PC. retard
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Anything but pc+switch seems weird to me. If you really want to play on another screen, why not setup another device to remote play in your own house on your own network? It just doesn't make sense. The only two options are retard or liar.
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>>741908604
and that answer doesn't fly because it's appealing to retardation and low information

>>741908693
and you tolerate worse performance on your snoybox so what's the problem, londonjeet?
why is it ok when snoy does it? because they account for your alzheimers?
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>>741908853
Time is the only thing money can't buy.
Consoles can save time compared to PC gaming.
It's literally that simple.
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>>741908853
and you tolerate shit performance on your dogshit PC, so what's wrong with consoles abdul?
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>>741909041
>tfw only got a 5080
It's so over...
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>>741908950
and you save more time by doing things on a pc

>>741909041
no, my argument was never about performance londonjeet
it was about consoles losing the value proposition and that leaving them only with retard appeal
yours is based on performance and it makes no sense since it's conceived by an intellectually stunted mind
performance you call shit is apparently acceptable on consoles because you just love snoy
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>>741909331
>you save more time by doing things on a pc
Depends on the situation/game.
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>>741909331
>value value value
it's a cheap console which plays games at the level or your shit PC you retarded poorfag.
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>>741909372
typing is faster
browsing websites is faster
multitasking is faster
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>>741909451
Sounds like you don't do a whole lot of gaming. Why is that?
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>>741909526
He has to stop to deliver his deliveroo
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>when your 7000 dollar PC is better than a 500 dollar console
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>>741909430
i'll give you another chance
if i had to build a pc for $1000 or buy a ps5 pro, why would i choose the latter?
answer without appealing to your own idiocy
if you manage to turn this into a failed breakfast question again i'll be disappointed

>>741909526
why are you asking tangential questions?
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>>741909617
>why are you asking tangential questions?
You're on the vidya board and keep talking about using your PC for typing and general multitasking instead of any, you know, GAMES??
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>>741909752
you're the one using saving time as an argument for consoles
and i brought up ways that save you time on pc that neuter your claims
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>>741909605
>>when your 7000 dollar PC is better than a 500 dollar console

Your $1049 PC is on par with a $500 Console (PS5)
Your $1449 PC gets BTFO with $900 Console (PC Pro)
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This is horrible. And to think my whole steam library is locked to the steambox, so unless i buy one, I can't play any of my games ever again.

oh wait
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>>741909967
incorrect, see >>741898739
a $985 pc beats a $980 console with disc drive (mandatory because otherwise you're complete slave cattle)
console value offering is completely in the toilet now
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>>741909806
You don't need a gaming PC to do any of the things you just said, you could at least give examples of time saved while playing vidya.
I'm starting to wonder if you even have a 9070xt at this point lol, it's really weird you've never once talked about your actual gaming experience when it's obviously more relevant to the thread.
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I didnt get my email yet bros...
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>>741910305
>AI pic
NOOOOO ANON THINK OF THE GABECUBE PRICETAG
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>>741910169
>time saved while playing vidya
that's not a thing
i assumed your argument was about the time saved on troubleshooting and fiddling on pc and that time is recouped by the fact pcs are just faster to do things on
if you were to post while playing on a console you need to bring up a laptop or a phone and type there slower
on a pc you just alt tab
you constantly shave off a few seconds and you recoup that loss on hypothetical issues which i'm charitable to even include
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>>741910635
But when is anyone ever going to post from a console? You just play the games
What are you even talking about
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>>741910750
duh? strictly speaking you save more time by not posting here at all
but we're here so we're assuming you have a phone or a laptop to post from
if you had the same standard for multitasking on consoles as you have while playing on pc then you just lose time on console due to having to involve less time efficient devices
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>anon is such a chronic shitposter he simply cannot fathom playing a game without posting every 5 minutes
must suck being a zoomer with ADHD
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>>741910976
I have a gaming PC, but I'm not shitposting on /v/ WHILE gaming, that's completely absurd
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>>741911096
you're just not good at multitasking then
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>>741911227
You have ADHD
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>>741911250
no, i'm more efficient with my time
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>>741911323
clearly not as you're wasting it here on /v/
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>>741911408
time you enjoy wasting is not wasted



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