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Thoughts on the 2002 GOTY? This shit was amazing on release.
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Ball sexo
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still my favorite game of all time. i replay it every few years and it still holds up
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>>741887984
Prime won by default because 2002 was so shit lol
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>>741887984
Prime is fucking trash, a disgrace to Super (which is already overrated)
>one-stick first person movement feels terrible
>extremely cramped 60° FOV especially bad since you must lock in place to be able to even turn your head slightly
>for some reason manually aiming up and down is some herculean effort and you must jam the stick for like 5+ seconds just to slowly crawl your arm up
>numerous areas are near pitch black dark with no flashlight (or even suit glow)
>constant backtracking and ping-ponging to opposite ends of the world
>new power-up paths all result in dead-ends aside from the one prescribed critical path (the game even recognizes its progression and navigation are terrible which is why it blatantly signposts everything with a literal quest marker)
>bosses are dull Simon Says dogshit
>no consistent way to farm missiles back if you waste them aside from backtracking all the way back to the ship or one of the few rare missile refill stations
>scanning shit constantly is incredibly tedious and boring
>enemies offer no incentive to bother with them and you can just run right past 90% of them barely taking a scratch
>environments are extremely bland and generic (hot zone, cold zone, grass zone, rock zone)
>environments are very visually flat and hard to read (especially in conjunction with the narrow FOV and restricted camera movement)
>first-person platforming sections with a 60° FOV unsurprisingly feel terrible
>map system is mostly fine except transitions between areas require you to completely exit that area, scroll over to the other area map, and then manually line up where the two meet
>movement is incredibly underwhelming compared to Super Metroid and you are constantly starting and stopping
>last third of the game becomes a shitty cover shooter in a game with some of the absolute worst combat and first person controls out there
>cockblocks you at the end with massive long backtracking fetch quest for all the remaining chozo artifacts
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>>741887984
It's good but Prime 2 mogs it.
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>741888819
You're filtered by so many games it's insane. Just genuinely terrible taste. Also probably a bot or so autistic you're not human anyway.
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>Thoughts on the 2002 GOY shit?
Retro is long overdue to be shuttered for never producing a good game. talentless Texans
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>>741888798
???? Kys zoomer retard, and vast majority of these games are better than trash like Metroid Prime
>REmake
>Metroid fusion
>Panzer Dragoon Orta
>GTA Vice City
>Wind Waker
>Gothic II
>JSRF
>Super Mario Sunshine
>Kingdom Hearts
>Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire
>Ratchet & Clank 1
>Sly Cooper 1
>Splinter Cell
>Spider-Man
>Mafia
>Mega Man Zero
>Hitman 2
>THPS4
>Star Fox Adventure
>LotR The Two Towers
>Harmony of Dissonance
>Jedi Outcast
>Timesplitters 2
>RE Zero
>Fire Emblem The Binding Blade
>MoH Frontline
>007 Nightfire
>Ape Escape 2
>Metal Slug 4
>Eternal Darkness
>Xenosaga Episode 1
>NFS Hot Prusuit 2
>Shanttae
>Onnimusha 2
>Dark Cloud 2
>Neverwinter Nights
>Stronghold Crusader
>Shinobi
>Time Crisis 3
>NOLF2
>Age of Mythology
>Touhou EOSD
>Battlefield 1942
>DOJ
>Arx Fatalis
>Morrowind
>Super Monkey Ball 2
>Golden Sun 2
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>>741889057
NTA, but attempt to refute him if you can
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>>741889424
When some autistic retard drops his list of things that triggered him into a spastic fit, one need only remind him that he is in fact literally subhuman. No further contact necessary.
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>>741889545
Concession accepted. Halo CE came out a year earlier and feels 2 gens ahead of that piece of shit.
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>>741889593
Gaylo was made for retards like you.
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>>741889545
Those are massive gaping flaws in every core part of the game.

What does Prime even do well? What is even just ONE thing it does better than Super, a game from almost a decade earlier?

Certainly not combat, or platforming, or controls, or pacing/progression, or bossfights, or artstyle, or the bland and samey level design where they put in literal quest markers because they know it's not well-designed or intuitive. I guess some of the OST is decent? Still pales in comparison to Super Metroid
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>>741889935
>What does Prime even do well?
Pretty much everything. It's not just a linear hallway consoletard FPS, like everyone initially feared when it was revealed.
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>>741889704
Even on normal, Halo CE is harder than Prime, and Legendary is miles more difficult and higher skill ceiling than Metroid Prime.

Halo CE far outclasses Prime in basically every category: combat, controls and movement, pacing, challenge, level design, weapons, balancing, artstyle, story, OST, atmosphere.
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>>741890140
>it does everything better
>posts a webm where you just stand in one spot with full HP spamming lock-on missiles while lock-on tracking an enemy
yep, that about sums it up
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>>741890240
>checkpoints every two milliseconds
>health recharging
>passive enemies
Gaylo was literally made for dummies like you, a simplified, tard-friendly FPS game for the masses.
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Prime 1 was the most incredible game to experience as a kid. There never anything like it before.
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>>741890339
Remember the final boss in Halo? Some vents you shoot rockets into. Such a rushed mess of a game lol.
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>>741890140
>dood it's not linear therefore it's not better!!!!
You retards really have no understanding of nuance. Metroid Prime's world design is amateurish garbage compared to even Super. The world just constantly pingpongs you around in different directions making you backtrack constantly trying to find which path is the newly unlocked critical path, nothing connects together in logical or convenient ways, and it just leaves constant dead ends laying around. It's like they just haphazardly made some winding, labyrinthine map and then arbitrarily threw up a bunch of gates with no consideration for how you actually progress naturally through the world and zero subtle environmental guidance; there will be five new paths opened from an upgrade, and only one of those five will actually be the critical path that you just have to find through trial and error.

The devs even KNEW their progression was completely nonsensical lazy garbage which is why they throw LITERAL QUEST MARKERS at you with every new objective update.
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>>741891013
Imagine being Gaylo and putting quest markers in your entirely linear game while also having a radio buddy tell you what to do. Brutally retarded.
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>>741890345
All of these are so incredibly wrong that it makes me wonder if you actually ever played Halo CE even on normal, and you DEFINITELY didn't play on Legendary.

Checkpoints are not frequent and also record your HP which can cause you to be put in difficult or even unwinnable scenarios if you don't plan properly.

Health only recharges up to a point, it's mostly a health pickup system, and again that health persists even through checkpoints. Not that recharging health is inherently lower skill, it works with games that require a more aggressive playstyle, like Halo

Enemies are actually extremely aggressive and highly intelligent. Halo CE has some of the absolute best enemy AI in a game to date, that was actually one of the biggest strengths of the game. Each enemy acts and reacts in different ways, they will move around frequently, they will aggressively flank you, they will retreat, they will dodge shots, they react differently depending on if their Elite is alive or not. The game is extremely aggressive as most weapons are most effective from short-range, enemies use cover, and weapons tend to have low ammo capacity requiring frequent swaps.

It is INCREDIBLY obvious you have not played Halo CE, which is a shame because it's far better than the garbage you peddle

>>741890518
As an young, idiot kid? Yes. Then you go back and play it as an adult and realize how pisspoor it actually is.
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>>741891642
>Checkpoints are not frequent and also record your HP which can cause you to be put in difficult or even unwinnable scenarios if you don't plan properly.
Objectively untrue in both regards.
>Health only recharges up to a point, it's mostly a health pickup system, and again that health persists even through checkpoints. Not that recharging health is inherently lower skill, it works with games that require a more aggressive playstyle, like Halo
I know Gaylofags are some of the biggest retards in gaming, but come on. Splitting hairs on HP versus muh shields recharging AND claiming Gaylo of all games has an "aggressive playstyle"? This a new level of drooling retardation.
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>>741889368
>Wind Waker
stopped reading
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>>741891013
>Metroid Prime's world design is amateurish garbage compared to even Super.
I dont get why nobody ever admits this.
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>>741891642
holy shit imagine being this assmad over someone else enjoying the experience of this game as a kid
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>>741892165
NTA, but I'm sick of people leaning onto nostalgia at the drop of the hat. That should be the final point you lean onto when talking about a game you like.
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>>741891845
>Objectively untrue in both regards.
Both are true, Legendary has by far the least amount of checkpoints, they are very infrequent.

>I know Gaylofags are some of the biggest retards in gaming, but come on. Splitting hairs on HP versus muh shields recharging AND claiming Gaylo of all games has an "aggressive playstyle"? This a new level of drooling retardation.
Retard, Halo CE is one of the most aggressive FPS there is. It has no cover system, weapons outside of the sniper are short range and have low ammo counts, and enemies spam grenades and flank you if you just sit in cover.

MEANWHILE, you are actually shilling for Metroid Prime where the best way to play is basically as a cover shooter where you barely peek out of cover and hit enemies, and if you ever get anywhere close to them you can be shredded from full to zero in like 2 seconds (I'm talking about the Simon Says Phazon Mines, game is a pisseasy joke before that then goes full retard cover shooter).

It's insane how pigheaded tendie retards are about games they are so ignorant about and have never fucking played for more than five minutes. Meanwhile I JUST beat Metroid Prime on the original GCN with the original GCN controller just last year, and that's exactly how I know it's shit.
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>>741888850
Lol no it doesn't. Light dark gimmick was lame and the map is less varied. Honestly 2 doesn't do anything Better
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>>741887984
Dogshit game propped up by nostalgia, the most reddit emotion of all times. Imagine destroying what objective sense data tells you because it reminds you of "le simpler times".
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>>741892364
Lol I bet you smell like unwashed clothes
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I don't think I've ever met a Metroid Prime fan with an IQ above the 80s. They are some of the most braindead mouthbreathers in gaming.

I give you some leeway if you haven't played it since you were a kid, but you also shouldn't be so blinded by nostalgia to the point of praising a game you haven't played in two decades, barely remember, and your only experience with it was a dumb, innocent kid who was mindblown by even movie tie-in shovelware.
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>>741887984
I played it late after release and never beat it. It’s fine but I don’t really have fond memories. Not really my kind of game.
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>>741892436
Prime 2 is a much better game than Prime 1, it has better graphics, better music, better bosses, better power ups, better level design, higher difficulty, and even multiplayer.
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>>741892364
>Halo CE is one of the most aggressive FPS there is
The game literally, not ironically, not hyperbolically, not jokingly, just 100% genuinely, requires the player to hide behind cover after taking damage for several seconds. It is one of the most simplified, tard-proofed games ever made.
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>>741892582
>get completely BTFO
>y-y-you smell bad!!!!
KEK holy mother of projection

Meanwhile this is your average tendie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DymrzCoUm2c

IMAGINE THE FUCKING SMELL OF THAT ROOM

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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>>741892693
You literally, not ironically, not hyperbolically, not jokingly, just 100% genuinely have not beat the game on even normal and have spewed misinformation this entire thread and still continue to do so.

Yes, you don't spend the entire game standing out in the open like a tard. No, it is not even remotely close to a cover shooter and you will get your ass handed to you by playing like that, unlike Metroid Prime, where that braindead style is the optimal way to play.

The projection is hilarious, calling Halo CE a cover shooter when you will get bodied playing like that whereas that's ACTUALLY how Metroid Prime plays in the Phazon Mines.
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>>741893029
>it's not a cover shooter, you just take cover every few minutes after taking damage!
This is "I'm not gay, I just suck dick." but somehow not as a joke.
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>>741893230
>take cover (aka stand near a wall) every few minutes
That's literally not what a cover shooter is you absolute retard.

Meanwhile you spend vast majority of your time in the Phazon Mines peeking out of cover and killing enemies from a distance, like an ACTUAL cover shooter.

I just find it hilarious the cognitive dissonance to try to claim Halo CE is a cover shooter while failing to realize that applies 10x more to Metroid Prime than it ever does to Halo CE. Not that you'd ever know that as you have made it abundantly clear you haven't played Halo CE.
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>>741893230
>dude Halo CE is such le easy cover shooter!!
Then why haven't you beat it on Legendary? Why haven't you beat it on just Normal even?

Why do you spread misinformation about games you've never played you retarded manchild?
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>>741888798
2002 had some all-time games. I think it’s perfectly acceptable for someone to say Prime is goty that year, but other acceptable opinions are also Warcraft 3, Vice City, and Morrowind.
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>>741893527
Every time you're in combat in Halo you're likely going to take damage, eventually you will have to retreat to cover for several seconds and be good as new after. That is the most casualized, bitchified game design choice in history and singlehandedly ruined the genre. That and the kind of linear level design that decision enabled anyway.
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>>741893662
Do Gaylofags really consider Halo on legendary to be some feat of gaming prowess? Just confirms their ignorance of gaming as a whole.
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>>741893669
>2002 had some all-time games.
It really really didn't.
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>>741893958
The three games listed and Prime are all considered all-time games. Anyone would be over the moon for that many high quality games in a single year right now. I also didn’t mention games that are extremely popular but I think don’t contend, like Kingdom Hearts, Battlefield 1942, and Splinter Cell.
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>>741893725
>it's not a cover shooter because you play primarily behind cover (like Metroid Prime)
>it's a cover shooter because you will have to retreat from enemies when taking a lot of damage instead of standing in the open like a tard
>btw I haven't even beat the game on Normal, let alone Legendary

>that is the most casualized, bitchified game design choice in history and singlehandedly ruined the genre
Autism. It's just a design choice that allows different gameplay styles. It's like platformers with linear movement vs. those with acceleration and inertia, or arcade racers vs. sim racers, or mechanics-focused action games vs. enemy-focused action games.

And again, METROID PRIME, the game you spent this entire thread dickriding, utilizes cover shooting significantly MORESO than Halo CE and most games you would try to call cover shooters. Or is your autism unable to recognize that simply because it doesn't have HP regen?
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>>741893815
You haven't beat Legendary or even Normal, so you would have no way to know. Halo CE on Legendary is harder than 99% of tendieshit out there.

>>741893958
See >>741889368 and then kys zoomer
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>>741887984
Modern /v/ would probably say this game is one of the worst of all time. They’d probably call it “qualityslop” or something.
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>>741894426
No, they would just recognize it as poorly designed trash, as would anyone who has played it in the last decade with an IQ over 100

See >>741888819
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>>741894324
>It's just a design choice that allows different gameplay styles
It's a design choice that allowed them to make an extremely simplified and easy game with none of the intricate level design the genre previously had.
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>>741894426
The Gaylofag rabid autist making 70% of the posts in this thread would definitely still chimp out, but that's a given since he's clearly mentally retarded.
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>>741887984
It's probably my favourite game with Halo:CE
What a great console generation
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>>741894557
Except it was recognized as a watershed moment in FPS gaming and ran laps around anything on PC out at the time. The level design, enemy design and AI, weapon system, and grueling difficulty and satisfying challenge of Heroic/Legendary put it head and shoulders above any FPS that came before it and it still stands as one of the all-time greats even today.

This kind of delusion can only be posited if you have never actually beat Halo CE, which you have made very clear you have not.
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>>741894801
>Except it was recognized as a watershed moment in FPS gaming and ran laps around anything on PC out at the time.
It's genuinely funny that in 2026 Halofags are so uppity they think their casualized baby game is actually genius. The Tendies of FPS games.
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>>741895015
>ignore all of the evidence presented in this thread
>just continue to blindly spew misinformation and insults about a game you have never played
>all while the game you dickride actually is much more egregious in the same categories you complain about, being significantly more casualized and more of a cover shooter
lmao witnessing tendie delusion firsthand really is something
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>>741895169
You spend way more time dodging in Prime than behind cover, Gaylo is the cover game. Not sure why you're so adamant about denying this obvious fact.
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>>741894509
>They’d probably call it “qualityslop” or something.
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>>741895609
That's a bossfight in an open arena you absolute fucking moron. That's the ONLY reason you aren't using cover (it's also why you're taking a ton of damage)
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>>741887984
Has anyone tried to the new VR mod?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hU8s3nF-LE
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How did this ever escape being shit on as a correction to being ludicrously fellated on release? Reminds me so much of the bizarre forgotten period when game journalists thought fucking bioshock was the greatest game of all time
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>>741897152
Bioshock holds up way better than Metroid Prime without a doubt. You just gotta turn the difficulty up to max and disable Vita Chambers and it's a great game.



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