HE NERFED THE FINAL BOSS WHAT A PUSSY
I hate when single player games get balance updates.
Game is for fags anyway. Who cares.
>>741890948this seems lame as fuck. i guess you could avoid it by turning the game off after losing, but players aren't being told the difficulty is being lowered.
>Noelle is DEFINITELY coming to Castle Town in Chapter 6>You have ONE final chance to abort Weird Route during the lake drowning scene, but even then the abort jingle doesn’t play, Kris’s title changes, and Noelle is still clearly aware of the true nature of her reality >You’re still too locked into the route, and she still has the ThornRingCalling it now, she’s going to kill everyone in Castle Town behind your back and the more people you recruited the stronger she’ll get
>>741890948>noooo not my deltatroon
>>741890948Sans won. Apologize.
>>741891472Its amazing how much the weird route mogs the normal route in chapter 5
>she didn't beat Flowery pre-nerfoh no no no no pffthahahaha
a flower (youkai)
How many times is "excessive amount of times"?
>>741892468I can’t even beat him post nerf
>>741891472If you're going Weird route then you're clearly murdering everyone yourself
>>741890948havent played deltarune since the original free demo like a decade agois the game completed now?
>>741892789Two more chapters, and Chapter 7 might be (((split))) into two parts
>>741892789Nope, we don't even have most of our plot threads completed or handled yet
>>741892875>>741892915ughguess i'll wait a few more years
>>741892556Given the game's target audience and their attention span, probably just once.
>>741892527A sexy human loli flower.
Asriel II getting served for lunch is foreshadowing that Asriel will get harvested for gotemeat
We didn't even get to date berdley! Toby robbed us!
makes sense. no one is playing this game for a challenge.
have we determined when's the best time to abort weird route? Ch2 abort, Ch4 abort, and now we have the possible too late to go back Ch5 abort. I really don't want to replay everything for the twisted route....
>>7418939075 is the point where it no longer counts as a full cancel if you don't follow through
>jannie deleting threadsoh no..
I just realized that the flowers share their traits with Kris
Rudy is the Knight but look at who he is targetting:>Toriel first>cope'd with Undyne cuz she would get in the way again>AsgoreHes not targetting them to cause harm, hes aware of the prophecy. The Shelter, Dark World or not, is the safest place in town. He is trying to protect everyone with Kris.
>>741891472(You)elle chads are eating goodeven in aborted route she still remembers us
>>741894009>thinks he can suppress discussionIt just fucking came out. We're going to be talking for at least 2 weeks.
>>7418909481 year in development and they couldn't catch these kind of bugs?
So Susie just cucks you and kicks you off the team for Noelle?
>>741894009To be fair I'm surprised people still want threads after canon Suselle.
It really cracks me up that they changed the "deflowering" weird route animation in chapter 4 only for chapter 5's weird route to be infinitely more sexual in energy.
>>741894087>hey soul, help us take citizens to the shelter, apocalypse is coming>oh okit's that easy
>>741890948I beat him on my third try prepatch. The middle segment with green and orange gave me some trouble
>>741894007fug all right thank you anon
If anyone has played Danganronpa 3 then the fiction within fiction stuff is likely to be relevant hereThe light world is fakeThe dark world is double fake
>>741894191Crash bugs like that usually require a combination of an unlikely scenario and doing something at an exact frame in an animation, so they're particularly hard to catch even with extensive bug testing. Common crashes are really bad but rare corner cases are expected
>>741894229You know whats funny? I realized the Deflowering thing was intentionally related to Asgore. Notice his "obsession" scene where he gets warped in red has the same branches as the new thorns animationThats why it was a flower initially. They wanted to parallel the two scenes. What we are doing is driving Noelle to obsession.
really toby?
>>741894009He can set fire to the fields of pink and gold in a jealous rage all he wants, it won't change anything
>>741894065Cuz he made the dark world
>>741894229It doesn't seem like Toby has a fucking clue.He'll reject Krusie and push Suselle, then dedicate an entire hot springs scene to be basically a romantic confession. He'll make Noelle stand up to you, then submit to you, all in the same scene.
So how did you beat the secret boss? The knight pre nerf wasn't this annoying.
I'm willing to bet that 65% of people playing the game don't even know what MY JARONA is referencing
>>741894009You may notice, if you look in the right places, this janny is a "woman"
>>741890948just a proof that deltarune is a storygame for storyfags first
>>741894687
>>741894618Kris confirmed town slut in that scene
>If you try to attack Friend in the platforming section it will deal back damage equivalent to the price of your weaponsDoes anyone still doubt ERAM is Seam?
>>741894592These cunts KILLED Onion and served his corpse for festival snacks
>>741894229>murder-suicide after rapeBASED TONY
>>741894604Why the parallel though? to show them going off the deep-end?Noelle's suicide is way more hardcore than Asgore situation so it doesn't feel fitting.
>tumblrtale game gets dsp mode>because its fanbase can't play games and are only interested in the fanart and shipping
>>741894229>Yeah Temmie, I just need you to draw her face when she demands Kris to say it to her over and over>I need her to look like she's gonna take it from you by force>...what do you mean this seems kind of sexual? Are you depraved?
>>741894740Kris' first chu was a ghost in a sex doll, ironically
>>741894678Because the secret boss fight ends when you get her mercy level to only 75%. she's a challenging fight, but not impossible, I beat her on my second try I think.
>>741894681It's a coded reference to Flowery getting it up for a touch of the younger kind
>>741894681I definitely don't. Wanna spoonfeed?
Whats the significance of the shelter code?>0915199XOr whateverA date obviously but what? Kris’ birthday?>>741894624
Knight identity status?
>>741894770Shouldn't have fucked with the Gaster cartel
>>741894839date undertale came out
>>741894729FIVE FOOT TWO THE JANNY MANZERO DOLLARS FALL TO HIS HAND
>>741894681https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojrtwXqqc6g
>>741894208At least 20% of posts are just "trust the plan" coping that we'll be able to break the two of them up. Lmfao
>>741894712>literally almost no story progression
>>741894761Yep, we will fight him next chapter after getting all crystals.
>>741894848UnconfirmedNothing really changed.
the dog keeps blocking me from reading the booksespecially the ones upstairs
>>741894886heh
>>741894947Rudy's "claim" got sent to the dirt like it should
>>741894678My strategy that eventually worked is to start the battle by guarding, sharing an item, then Ralsei flirting for a quick 3/4 dokis. Then just starting a general strategy of flirting with Kris/Susie while Ralsei does LoverBoy until you get up to 60% TP and can do MegaFlirts while letting your other party members heal or guard.Gigaflirt is a noob trap, don't bother with it. Too much TP and takes up too many party member's turns.
>>741891472Holy shit
>>741894829The song "My Sharona" classic boomer song for all dads
>>741894009It's been 24 hours. Talk about Nintendo instead of your dead game.
>>741894009YOU CAN'T DISCUSS THE GAME THAT RELEASED YESTERDAY, WE NEED MORE GTA 6 THREADS
>>741894839Reference to Undertale's release date. Though it was a reference to when Chara fell but that was in 201X so maybe it's the date Kris was adopted.
This remains uncontested btw
>>741894935the fact taht that is a common complaint about the game means that it's not a gameplayfag game, don't you see? people are playing for the story. the gameplay is not the staralthough i thought the secret boss this chapter was great
So if the flower man is ten feet twenty (fucking killing for fun)do we have to update the pixel height chart?
>>741894794The parallel is obsession, Asgore basically lost it all obsessing over that. Noelle, as we know her, is already a "creepypasta" obsessed freak behind the scenes, YOU, the soul, became the anomaly shes obsessed with now. She knows you are not natural, so she believes you can change her from being Noelle.
undertale is an important part of the lives of a lot of mentally ill 20 year olds who were teenagers/kids when undertale came out, which is why you see grown men analyze this shit like it's war and peace or the illiad
>>741894848Rudy, 100% confirmed. Anyone doubting it at this point must be trolling.
>>741894678Idk bro how many healing items are you running?If you have one of each soda, ~2 colas, the spin cake and the tree cake its pretty easy. I got hit by almost everything. Just make sure you're picking up as many hearts as you can, TP is the bottleneck.
>>741894983You can still make the argument its him but I doubt Carol would keep spamming calling Noelle over a ruse>>741895063Fair enough makes senseI understand why Toby panicked now, wasn't meant to be sexual at all.
>>741895093Yeah, that's me.
I couldn't beat flowery. I watched the boss and ending on youtube.
rudy raped and killed dess holiday in 1990
>>741894678Dogdollar gives 3 Dokis
>>741895130Would explain why a literal flower was able to make him kneel. He's fucking dying and is losing the sauce.
>>741895130how are you so certain? Carol being conveniently out of town is suspicious
feels weird going from this kino to a filler episode even if flowery last battle is coolhttps://youtu.be/nP9mB1sVJz4
>>741895130>>741895232It's confirmed to be Rudy, Carol, or both together. We haven't actually locked down the specifics on that. But Dess is definitely not the knight.
ANON!THIS IS MY FINAL COPE!TAKE IT FROM ME!!!!
>>741895205The same flower was mopping the floor with our heroes just a moment ago, anon. The reason Flowery didn't decimate our ass at the last clash was because he hesitated.
>>741895186Me too. Glad I didn’t even bother since the ending sucked. Completely abandoned all of Susie’s character development and now Shes some obsessed stalker weirdo.
>>741894848Kris and Noelle will wake up in the hospital in 7b, Rudy's dungeon. He was late in chapter 5 because he fell. We will never see what Dess looks like.
>>741894936>reading some shit about him>if you recruit everyone in CH4 he talks about effortlessly mogging everyone in combat and asks for you to bring someone strongeroh fuck this guys been sending us out to get stronger to duel his ass hasn’t he
>>741895093TrueSo anyway as i was saying Sussie is getting puppeted by gaster to force the prophecy shit
>>741895232The knight was both late and already injured. This meshes with Rudy falling off the ladder.
>back when Chapter 3 released accidentally recruited the suit enemy 24 times instead of a full 25>thought "Oh well, surely I won't be robbed of that much content">miss out on the Mike fight in Ch 4>this chapter also introduces some stuff in town that requires you to recruit everyone and it goes and fucking guilts you about how you're "not a pacifist" and your love for the town is "cracked"The fuck is this bullshit Tobias, why did you think this mechanic was a good idea in the first place? Being a pacifist isn't enough, I also have to repeat fights until I reach your arbitrary quota and if I don't I just miss out on a bunch of content with nothing to replace it? And if I want to go back and correct my mistake I have to play through multiple chapters without any sort of ability to speed things up? Fuck off you cunt.
>>741895063this would be a compelling plot line if it was foreshadowed anywhere at all
>>741895093The Culture war is an important part of the lives of a lot of mentally ill 20 year olds who were teenagers/kids during 2016, which is why you see grown men analyze "woke games" like it's war and peace or the illiad
Honestly, after this chapter, I don't subscribe to the DessKnight theory, it is one of the Holidays, however I don't think it's Dess
>>741895310"Cats tail" got mentioned in direct dialogue in this dark world, that + Cattie's seething in the festival made me think the theoryfags were right about her. I think she actually is a major character
Rudyknightbros... We can't reach him.. we.. we may fall!
Thoughts on the routes, which one do you think will peak, and which one do you think will fumble?
>>741895310Makes sense to me
>>741895314Omega Flowey kicks the Knight's bum ass btwJobber needed to wait until everyone was tired outI can believe the knight is rudy now, because only a SICK, ELDERLY OLD MAN would act like this.
>>741894687>*You hold the Shadow Crystal up to the janitor's chromosomes. >*No matter how much you shake and twist...>*...the image does not warp in the crystal's lens.
Wall-dono and Ladder-sama are strong...
>>741895232Rudy fell off the stairs, Carol called Noelle to the hospital, we can confirm this is true in the Weird route, we find Rudy on the ground.Susie points out to the lights, which finish being put just before the house next to Asgore's shop.The Knight is also seemingly injured, most would assume because he slammed into a wall but The Knight can ignore the Dark World's shenanigans. Thats the biggest red flag, but on top of the fact that he took care to encase Asgore in a bubble too.
Why is she like that?
>>741894761I am NOT giving him the shadow crystalsI have all 5 hoarded on my save, dude was shady from the startBy the way…>FRIEND is a Hand (5 limbs, look at its shape in the cutscene, severed hand theory)>Seam is a handpuppet
>>741895182>>741895361>>741895389are you...brown colored, mayhaps?
>>741894848It existed years ago so I don't know if it's Dess.
>>741890948how excessive is "excessive?"i was wondering if Ralsei was going to step up if you lost too many times, he seemed capable with his bullshit flames (which amounted to nothing)
Just realized but where was the Addison with the Pipsi?
>>741895462Even though Susie is in cope, the fact is she's the only one capable of getting the guitar code
>>741895380>he missed the part where you can recruit like 20 Shadowguys at once
>>741895462You were used up.
>>741895380you WILL have to replay 20 hours of dialogue if you miss even a SINGLE out of the way npc or point of interestyou WILL like ityou WIL say bravo, toby fox
>>741895408I think making the weird route necessary for a true end is something Toby is too smart to do, it will be strictly for exploring certain themes like Genocide was in Undertale. People who think it will be forced to "break the prophecy" or whatever are fucking retarded. Toby doesn't design his games that way, stuff that is really frustrating or time consuming or repetitive - i.e. replaying the entire fucking game - is avoided
>>741895380Toby has been very judgmental since Undertale, he's basically applying the Dishonored metric of "do everything pristine or you have various degrees of me telling you're a bad person".
>Noelle is a freak that puts her mouth on the water fountain after Susie has drank from it, throws her childhood friend under the bus CONSTANTLY + a ton of other strange, sneaky acts>This is framed as a kawaii doki-doki wholesome thing for her to doRemember guys and gals don't be an obsessive weirdo that places all of their hopes and wish-fulfillments into one person unless you're the same gender, in which case it's 100% okay and not disturbing in the slightest.
I don't understand why half the community is acting like the other half is stupid for expecting this chapter to explain literally anything major with the plot.Sorry for being the retard that expected the chapter about Asgore, taking place in Asgores home, to actually divulge any new info about Asgores involvement in and any general details about the case that got him fired from the police force,
>>741890948There will be 3 versions of chapter 7>Normal route: Bunkier>Weird route:Under the lake>Weird route after stoping in chapter 5: Across the lakeIf your noelle killed everyone in castle town she will be able to freeze the lake and cross it
>>741895401Aiiiiiiiie
>>741895480/pol/fags calling you brown is the equivalent of conceding
>>741890948Can he nerf the bomb bullshit in that one fight?
>>741890948>reddit: the game got nerfed, bros!!! how could they do this to me?!so how's your transition coming along, OP?
>>741895462Kris, bro... It's so over...
What is the true nature of Deltarune? Is it all a game (within a game)? That'd explain all the weirdness, all the meta moments.
>>741895574Didn't we learn it was about a Dark World taking away Dess?
At this point I think the knight is Rudy and the one who carried Undyne/Asgore away is Carol. It's the only way I can make sense of it.
>>741894618Where even is this
>>741895574Fanboys get really defensive about games they like. It's always been like this, with everything in fiction really. One of the good things about 4chan is you don't have to put up with those fucking retards.
>>741892627Faggot.
>>741895462Susie is in the right here. Kris is evil.
>>741895408Anyone saying C is a retarded zoomer who doesn't know how a disc works or where the convention of A and B sides comes fromThere is no C side
Aqua carried this chappy
>>741895574We learned so much about Asgore this chapter thoughWe learned that he likes flowersWe learned that the flowers like him backWe learned that he...did...something, but he can't tell you what
>>741895479>He’s fine in the weird routeAnon, he fell from the ladder. You literally talk to him as he's on the ground against said ladder.
>>741894794because the colors are representative of the aspects of the SOUL, and the flowers are parallels to the fallen human souls in Undertale. The flowers in the dark world also tend toward a negative aspect of their virtue.Red is presumed to be DETERMINATION, and the continuity of self, which is a trait that technically all humans(or Lightners in Deltarune) have.In Asgore's flashback he starts out as a yellow silhouette(Justice), but color shifts to red as his self-hatred and obsession with changing things back to how they used to be takes hold. Child Kris is also shown as being cyan, even though their soul is currently red.In the Weird Route Noelle is corrupted by Kris's red soul and pushed to the point of obsession, by way of her perverting her desire for self-determination and hatred of her current self.
what did flowery mean by this?
>>741895574This, I wasn't expecting any major reveal but at least info on the case, and how and why Asgore got a black shard and shit like that. We got the confirmation Dess left and it was linked to a dark world but that's it, we don't know what asgore did and why he hate himself for it
>>741895574We are all retards for thinking J.J Toby would actually solve the mistery boxes he set up
>>741895310...
>>741895645Game made by gaster, these people have real lives but he has created a lens that traps them in the confines of Deltarune.Thats why the game can't handle you going to weird route and starts blanking boxes, its not designed for it
>>741894009If anything, You should be thankful they didn't ban this shit yet for having a tiny veiled general on /v/.
>>741895593>if you don't like the awful writing, awful romance, or nonsensical plot threads toby has no answer for beyond just pulling "itz all simulation bro", you must post on /pol/nice strawman toby
>>741895584I don't get it why don't they just go around the lake? Does lake mean something different in tobyfox vocabulary?
>>741892627What attacks are giving you trouble?
I didn't have too much of a problem with Flowery but the charge mechanic felt slightly fucked up and not exactly working like it's supposed to
>>741895574>Learn that it was a Dark World that Asgore was pursuing>Learn he knew nothing about them beyond them existing>Learn there's specifically an "old Dark World" that existed for a long time>Learn how nobody blamed him and it was his fault for pushing everyone away>Learn despite that he's still a loving father who was willing to put it all behind him if it meant returning to his family
>>741895480I’m actually red
>>741895682Celeste had C-Sides and they were the most difficult.
>Flowery is Kris’ idealized version of his own flirtatiousness and desire to protect his friends and family >visually Rudy + Noelle>he can ACT because hes based on KrisHoly shit
Rudy is the knight and it's no coincidence he has been targeting the dreemurr family specifically. Asgore probably did run over Dess
>>741890948>>741892468>>741892627You can just spam dash during the deflect portions of the fight. There's a small gap in invulnerability but it works 95% of the time. I think I took 1 hit from Flowery and one from Orange in the entire fight (beat it on my first attempt).
>>741895735flowery and ralsei knowing so much about each other but not revealing anything upset mealso fetus theory real?
>>741895735lots of possibilitiesAsriel can't be in Hometown.Darkners can't move between Dark Worlds. (established with Lancer)Kris can't be a monster like his parents
>>741894678I just used healing/mints items and fought it? It only took one try.Maybe they'll nerf it in a few days too.
>>741895574They really needed to stop the vagueposting at this point, at least a little
>>741895696Are you sure he fell in the weird route already? I interpreted that as him just being worn out since he said that he'll try again later.
>>741892875>and Chapter 7 might be (((split))) into two partsFucking secondaries. "Side B" is one of the internal names for the Weird Route
it was very thoughtful of Kris to grab the shelter code and r i p i ti n t o s h r e d s v e r y q u i c k l yb e f o r e S u s i e c o u l dc a t c h h i m h o l d i n g i tin time
>>741895645>What is the true nature of Deltarune? Is it all a game (within a game)?Maybe. I think Kris and Noelle woke up and escaped from the simulation, you know, like in The Matrix.
This is Mr. Radiation speaking, thank you all for waiting a year for zero (0) plot progression whatsoever. Come back in 2027 for chapter 6!
>>741895763Because the game mechanics are real and people cant just walk through the trees
Omg your trapped inside a game? the weird ending route confirms this. This is just like amazing digital circus.
>>741895645It's gonna be a Soma/Digital Circus thing isn't it?
>>741895574What do you mean, anon? Everyone knows character development = vagueposting. It's writing 101.
>meet POTENTIAL chapter> 0 reveals> 0 progress> 7 theory seeds
MY [SOUL] YOU THINK TRYING TO ESCAPE THIS WORLD WITH [THE ANGEL] WILL FREE YOU FROM YOUR [DELTARUNE] DESTINYALL YOUR SAVES WILL KNOWALL YOUR [WORLDS] WILL KNOW WHAT YOUVE DONE.
this wasn't in the game yet right?
Flowery was simply too based to liveRIP the GOAT Lancer would have loved having another dad
>>741895735he can travel across dark worlds
>>741895521I didn't miss that, but I think that was only 10 or 15. Which is why I'm more upset, he clearly lowered the recruit values for this chapter since there are multiple enemies that you can fully recruit in just one or two fights, but I'm still shit out of luck.>>741895531I didn't get the eggs either in the first chapter and thought it wasn't a big deal, and now with every release I'm realizing that it is a big deal and he's not going to make it any easier.>>741895562Yeah but here it feels even worse. Killing someone? Sure, I can understand guilting me over that and Sans even tries to understand things from your point of view from what I remember, but not going out of my way to recruit them feels like it's worse than anything from Undertale.
>>741895834>zero (0) plot progressionit seems that you missed Jockington growing the beard
>>741895850>>741895845least obvious discord raid
>>741895678>Kris is evil.After Chapter 5, I'm completely on his side.
>>741891472Now I buy your fucking theory.
>>741895763Onionsan comes out right at the shoreline likes it's deep. There is some game physics fuckery happening at the edges of town.
>>741895829I saw that scene as Kris trying to control their thoughts and actions to overpower your own control. If they just ripped you out and tried to store you somewhere, Susie would probably notice.
>>741895727>Red is presumed to be DETERMINATIONmore than 10 years later and retards still spout this shit
>>741895310God always gives the best copium to their strongest schizos, hopefully there's some truth to it in the future
this game is too hard
>>741895873it was during the susiezilla minigame in chapter 3
>>741895735Ralsie is a unique darkner like no other. He should not have the abilities that he does.
>>741894848Back Vaporized by the most powerful ladder in existence
>>741895859Fucking kek
>>741895919I agree tb h, I was mostly joking
>>741895873Play Susiezilla in chapter 3.
>>741894229>keep saying it kris>kris don't let go of my hand>keep goingo-ok, lewd
>>741895462Tell me this doesn't resemble opening the door and being "used up"
>>741895645Gaster's digital world he made in Undertale.
>>741895834The to be continued didn't say 2027
>>741895735Ralsei's existence contradicts pretty much everything he's explained to us about darkners so far. He is at least an anomaly and at most, not even a Darkner.
>>741895645>Is it all a game (within a game)?Judging by the end of the Ch.5 Weird route it seems so as it cuts to a CRT monitor asking to "insert" Chapter 7 side B. So the entirety of Deltarune is probably a simulation made by Gaster
Rudy is controlled by a heart when he's in Knight form just like Kris. He hates it, and pulls it away, but he's a sick as Kris without it and is always collapsing.
>>741894848Nah its not rudy. Its either Dess or FRIEND or a ghost lightner now that we know those can go into the dark worlds (mew mew))
>>741896029steam page was updated to say it
Hey anons, would you like some onions?
>>741895902Bro play the weird ending it’s revealed it’s not real your in a video game. The characters are trapped amazing digital circus style.
>>741895829For a second there, I almost thought Ralsei was the note with the code.
>>741895932unironically this game should have had difficulty settings. If your target audience is feel good chungus button mashers don't make a challenging bullet hell game without an opt-out. I did enjoy the difficulty for the most part (some of it is kinda bs especially on secret bosses) but not everyone wants to grind boss patterns just to see what happens to the png sprites
>>741895462Give me something for the pain and let me die
>mysterbox setting>make up 4 entire chapters of random plot threads>only 2 or 3 of them matter>uhhhhhhm itz all a simulation bro thats whyI am tired of millenial/gen z mysteryboxes
>>741891472This is copium, but good copium because it would be kino
>>741895747>Thats why the game can't handle you going to weird route and starts blanking boxes, its not designed for iti don't think that's the game breaking anoni think that's just kris disassociating
>>741895685True! Cute and funny human won!
>>741896000>>741895952oh right I just thought they were holding a sword or something, not a ropemakes sense
>>741895932Yeah, does Toby expect us to get better at this genre by playing his game for a few hours every year or so? Difficulty should've stayed steady at ch2-level outside of optional bosses.
>>741894848>>741895130I didn't think it was Rudy before but after this it seems more obvious. Like even besides him being fucked up this time, just think about it for a second.>Asgore was trying to be the hero, reasonably assumed the Knight is the person making fountains and wanted them deadWell now, wouldn't it be a perfect neat little parallel twist for Asgore if the person he hated so dearly and was responsible for his own personal downfall all along was actually his lifelong best friend?Just kind seems like it's right there. Add on that he's crippled and dying, and his daughter is dead and that Dark Worlds can revive dead people and you have a reasonable motivation for him wanting to turn the whole world into Darkness while also kidnapping/saving the people who are close to him in his life from the resultant end of the world.
>>741895645Its a simulationSans, papyrus and the goners are people from outside of the simulationI don't think its a literal game (Ralsei's dialogue to me suggests its just way of visualising the world through the player's lenses)>>741895850If you've ever played E33, I am of the opinion its similar to that. Its a fictional pocket world. People from the outside can come in.The lightworld people are indistinguishable from real people like sans in terms of sapience, but the difference remains. You cannot wash the ink away.
>>741895903What the fuck, this is a brutal retcon, the reason why Susie bullied Kris in chapter 1 was because Susie thought Kris had it easy with a happy family.
>go through the effort of collecting all the crystals>seam makes the purecrystal>"Quite peculiar, isn't it? Of course, to make any use of it, you'll need something else. Hahaha...">"Oh? You don't have it? What a shame...">"It was fun to pretend something would come of it, at least for a while...">you NEED the thornring from aborting side B to do anything with it>otherwise it just sits in your inventory and does nothinghow mad would you be?
>>741896109Then just die oldnigger. You're well past your expiration date
>>741896029The steam description was updated to say they're aiming for 2027 for chapter 6
>>741892729You can recruit everyone exept the ones Noelle needs to freeze and still be on the Weird Route.
>>741896075>Fish shape>Sells Octoballs>Confused all the timeHe is gonna be in the weird route underwater
>>741895861There aren't even 7 theory seeds. We don't learn anything new. The most exciting event is Rudy falling off a damn ladder.
>>741895458>Carol called Noelle to the hospital, we can confirm this is true in the Weird route, we find Rudy on the ground.Rudy-Knight believers are actual, literal 70 IQ troglodytes
>>741891472Holy, she also literally said this, it's fucking possible lmao, also casting snowgrave kills because of the red mist
>>741896173I'd kneel
>>741896178I am youngaryan akshully
>>741895783>golden boy who never loses Thematically he's Asriel.
>>741895310HOPE DIES LASTDELTACHADS IT WAS A RUSE BY THE DOGWE WILL WIN IN CHAPTER 6
>>741895793What fetus theory? how do you fuck not realize Ralsei is Kris' headband that he wore as a child? The Pink horns are right there motherfucker, its so painfully obvious that im having a hard time seeing how so many people cant connect the dots.
>>741896134You're supposed to play it all in a rowNot years apart
>>741896075Unironically secret boss material
>>741896118did she have a fang/fangs in her sprites
>>741896039>So the entirety of Deltarune is probably a simulation made by GasterGaster is heavily implied to be an active contributor to the game's source code and to operate on the software level of the application. Deltarune(.exe) is literally made by him, so yeah, duh.
>>741896198Yeah all the mysteries are the same as last year.He didn't even wrap up the fucking shipping. If anything he added more bait than ever before. Outright Krusie, Kriselle, and Suselle, even RALSEI options sprinkled through the whole fucking thing.
>>741895645>What is the true nature of DeltaruneCode for a game that is supposed to only have one path and ending (prophecy)It's been repeating long enough that code is starting to become corrupted(YOU) have direct ability to do what you want, Kris is aware but still hates (You) because he's just a cageNoelle has the ability to write code (amateur developer) but never did anything because she was just an npc, but with (YOU)r actions during weird route giving her freedom, the WR-Noelle will end up altering game codeSusie isn't aware/doesn't care about the fact that it's a game but the changes occurring in the current loop of the game are driving her crazy, likely because the prophecy/ending of the game heavily involve her actions, so the prophecy breaking will have her as a lynchpinGaster is the original developer of the game, Sans is the wildcard that's likely working with Gaster as the observerKnight is code written into the game to keep everything on track, now that you are breaking the prophecy it's either going to do its best to stop you, or is also developing awareness to work with Kris to revolt against Gaster (could go either way)
>>741896118I'm going to hate 90% of all Aura art because fucking idiot artfags somehow miss that the Bow is heart-shaped in every single frame of this girl's animations
Can't wait for Susie to bring Noelle to Castle town in Weird ch6.
>>741891472Noelle’s power?Becoming MAXIMUM.
>>741894604>YOU CAN ALL STOP STARING NOW
>>741896105>Give me something for the painRope?
>>741896232>Carol called Noelle and [LIED]ok bro
>>741895685actually her name is Seth, stop deadnaming her
>>741896115Just as likely but the only time the blanks show are in places/conversations that shouldn't be happening, the normal route proceeds as normal with item descriptions.Kris isn't supposed to stay in bed all day
>>741896076Shouldn't you be spamming that tranny rabbit or something?
>Bahamut Lagoon poster was rightwhat is this awful feeling in my chest
GOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING /v/! Just wanted to remind you that Reimu (yes, THE Reimu Hakurei from Touhou) is confirmed to be in Deltarune Chapter 5!! Make sure to pay attention to Susie's outfit so you can see her presence in the game!
>>741896109Plot progression is not the only thing that matters, I want to see characters interact and develop relations
>that one spammer saying he preferred Ralsei with the hat made Tony seethe so hard he dedicated multiple parts of ch5 to itkekkus maximus
So.....do we really have no new memes this chapter?
>>741894678It really just takes getting gud at the bomberman attack it's so overtuned compared to the rest of the fight
>>741891472Seems true to me.Not that I'll see it in my saves, since I didn't abort my route.
>>741895920There's a reason I said "presumed to be" and not "is," and included the game text describing it as "try as you might, you continue to be yourself."Try to connect some dots on your own.
>>741894848Rudyknightfags absolutely btfo'd. And they were so cocky too
>>741895969>Take the seeds>Plant them on the ladder>Deploy in the next Dark World>Watch the Knight get snapped in half by Omega Flowery
>>741896068>>741896184Well that sucks. He did say 6 was easy to develop so I hope it's spring 2027 at the latest
>>741896365I didnt put the red ribbon on Susie cause I was mad at her
>>741896173Laugh, because I have one from chapter 2 just for this occasion.
>>741896254>What fetus theory?
I can't think of another game where the main suspects of reality-bending time crimes are Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer and his family of Christmas does (he has a goth tomboy daughter that went missing)
>>741894229inb4 they censor it tomorrow after reading our threads
>>741896389jockington grows the beard
Finished Chapter 5I think i'm getting tired of this series, the chapter had one moment for me. The initial moment with the feather was cool, and then it lost me again.Still probably going to draw Seth with gigantic breasts.
>>741896376Everyone knows Blacksei is betterWhitesei was a mistake
>rudy is confirmed being the knight>the knight looked injuredno?where are you retards coming from?if anything the flowers and Gerson existence points even more to the knight being some weird Dess thing
>>741894604Kris's silhouette being that color has made me 100% certain Aqua is a kid Kris parallel
The next chapter will be worse then 5 and chapter 7 will resemble the ass pull that was GoT season 8
>>741895389Not a neat parallel
Mew Mew Rimmy Cutie!
anyone manage to un-distort noelle's horrifying face?
>>741896407what btfo the theory exactly?
>>741896389have you gone to the lake yet
>>741896148>I bullied Kris because, despite his flaws, he was accepted in his community and had a loving familyto>I bullied Kris cause I wanted the doe to eat my pussy instead of suck Noelle's cockIt's such a blatant retcon and an assassination of Susie's interiority as a character that either the Prophecy cope is real and she DID change overnight because the world itself is forcing her to change to fit the narrative set in stone.OR Toby is just a wimp, and he's let the trannies run his characters to the ground in order to fit their retarded tranny agenda.
>>741896376Im retarded for not realizing this nigga was a tree until they explained flowersRalsei is the ROOTS, its why hes everywhere…hes the fucking TREES
>>741896375plot progression matters when you waste player time on it and then leave them unanswered for fucking years, yea
I hope Deltarune chapter 7 weird route is just the characters in the hospital from drowning to troll all the weirdos here.
>>741896464Good riddance
>All the good and popular art is about Weird RouteWhat happened? Is it now the KINO path?
>>741895903Same, Kris doesn't deserve the shit he's getting. The world he's in deserves to be destroyed.
>>741896254Can't be the pink horns, Ralsei is definitively not an object, he is something else
>>741896486Cute Mew Mew rimmingMad Mew Mew giving headBoth at the same time
>>741890948when you have a fanbase of sensitive troons you must pander to them
>>741896292And we already knew that flowers have SOULS because they did in UTIn UT the flowers were specifically humans that asgore had killed and trapped in flower form, I'm surprised that didn't come up but asgore was too busy vagueposting so maybe it still gets brought up in later chapters
>>741896362with the way things are going i think we're going to graduate from bahamut lagoon to live-a-live with how kris seems to be taking it
>>741896486Mew mew rimming a random fan!
>>741896474...they got injured and writhed in pain from hitting a wall, perhaps much like falling from a high place.
Bunch of interesting things with WR of chapter 5>Susie comment that the goner cartel wasn't at the festival during the WR, meaning they probably are only here to oversee Kris/The soul or are scared of the result of the WR>Susie will be closer to Kris than in the regular run and will be worried about him>Sans will give you bread to track you down and seem to know that something isn't right, the bread doesn't stay if you abort the route>You can't actually say no to Noelle, she will refuse you saying stop, and then will force you to say Proceed, the only way to refuse is to almost drown>If you cancel it, the WR cancellation jingle doesn't play, and you get a bunch of alternate scenes, meaning that the aborted WR starting this chapter might actually have consequences>Completing it permanently change your game files similarly to UT Genocide, though not all flags are activated yet
>>741896520Oops, I meant suck Kris's cock*
>>741895783Flowery isn't Kris, that's Aqua.
>>741896478The color, the chaotic gremlin energy and the knife motif.
Wait a second. I just realized that there is one plot thread this chapter closes: the possibility of AsgoreKnight. The reason the closets were big was to account for Asgore. Asgore showed up after Kris called for help in the Noelle house to make him suspicious.AsgoreKnight was meant to be a credible theory. Jesus Christ.
>>741895876He will return... stronger...
>>741896389Flowery vs the Knight was fucking hilarious, until the end
>>741896550Artists are obsessed with rape and submissive girls. I don't know why. Personally it's not for me
If you really cared about and didn't hate Kris, you wouldn't misgender them.
>>741896362>what is this awful feeling in my chestIt's that feeling you get when you've finished a well-made NTR game. Deltarune is an NTR game, but without any sex scenes.
>>741896550always was, main route is prophecyslop
>>741896568Mad/ghost would be the rimmer.
>>741895310when the light is running low.and the writing's cracks start to showand the characters that you knowseems like caricaturesthere's a hope inside your soulthats still shining in the coldwith the truththe promise in our theories.dont forgetim with you in the threads
>>741896520>character changes over night>b-but there is an in-lore explanation for it!1see, it's not bad writing, it's le prophecy
>>741896520>Toby is just a wimp, and he's let the trannies run his characters to the ground in order to fit their retarded tranny agenda.I will say it again, Chapter 1 was Toby's unchanged, untampered with vision for Deltarune and ever since he got a team it was forever tainted with character assassinations like with Susie.
>>741896478The Red heart didn't give that away?
>>741896474Noelle gets a call from Carol saying that Rudy "fell down". After the dark world, you can see that he was probably setting up holiday lights and literally fell down. The Knight arrives at the last minute, rams into a wall, and kneels in front of Flowery.
>>741896292It's not heart-shaped. it only looks that way because it's so few pixels.
>>741894848>RudyDefinitely not>DessLess likely now but not impossible. The Knight is actually holding something sharp, not a bat
>>741896365factually correct
>>741896458did jockington even show up in this chapter or did i somehow completely miss him
>>741890948I did it first tryBut fucking bomb-bomb bitch, I enjoyed her but jesus christ that one bomb grid attackIt feels like it's bugged and just impossible to avoid damage sometimes, I swear multiple times I was standing on the only safe tile then another bomb would spawn on my head, and sometimes they just appear out of nowhere with no indicatorI kept fucking up the 3rd stage because after like 2 big bomb attacks she goes back to the bullshit ones, and it's either the 2nd or 3rd stage where you get that same attack 3 times in a rowDon't know if it's impossible to fail on the last part, but I was panicking so much I almost did
>>741896520Toby is catering to trannies and he'll transition himself. I don't see the point in even waiting for the rest of this garbage to be released.
What's the deal with (Tokyo) Mew Mew? It's like Toby and I watched different shows.>>741890948Wonder if it's an FPS thing. I just hate that you're bound to hit SOMETHING in the fight and that there's some timing mechanic going on. Is there just no way to push DEF really high? I'd replay chapters to synthesise some good gear.
>>741896630KNIGHTBROS??????? HOW DO WE DEFEAT THAT???????
>>741896389ladderposting
>>741896654I think most hate HIM though at this point.
>>741896173Fuck it, I'll edit my save.
>>741896579We were saying this shit last chapterPINK AND GOLD INFERNO BTWNothing ever happens.At this point, I fully expect the Roaring to be, like, a 90 second eclipse or something.
>>741896548I'm expecting it to just be their bodies floating across the river and then they dump into Dess body and it fades to black
Christ... This isn't going to end well isn't it
>>741895903>Susie has had a crush on Noelle the whole timetoby hackerinooo
Are the pink coins only for the secret boss?
>>741896757see you in a few minutes, anon.(unless you already did it lmao)
>>741896757Being Kris is a living nightmare.
>>741895903Does she specifically say I bullied you because of Noelle? This seems like an ass pull. She can be jealous of Kris' perfect life and a doe gf is just another brick in the wall
>>741890948worst way to nerf a boss, it should be a choice to make it easier, cant even spend time learning the boss patterns before its made easier this way
>>741896574The dead kids were just regular kids in Undertale that Asgore murdered. The flowers are just their parallel but they aren't literally the same.
So is Side B the real name of the Weird Route now?
This mf knows. HE KNOWS.
>>741896790after being the secret boss there is a shop where you need 9 more pink coins to purchase items.
>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction.>BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail.>Look forward to chapter 6 in 2029!
>>741896362is Kris more or less of a cuck than Byuu thoughat least Byuu gets to ride into the sunset atop Salamando and have hot lizard sex
>>741896550Main route was that bad
>>741896550Just like Chara has most of the art in Undertale that isn't coom shit
>>741896704he's at the festival, growing a beard
How much meltdowns did I miss with 16 hours of sleep?
>>741896598>>Susie will be closer to Kris than in the regular run and will be worried about himShe's more scared due to being kept out of the loop.
how did the Knight drag Asgore down to shelter? Previously I thought they both were in cahoots, ch5 disproved that
>>741896587you faggots are reaching>smashed against a wall>gets hurt>ermmm actually is because falling of a ladderare you retards serious?
>>741896496>KRIS KEEP SAYING IT kek SAY ITYou mean her last face?Look at this deer yelling in her mind for sexo
I have a small feeling that chapter 7 is going to make us play as the vessel and then make us fight susie and ralsei as the final boss of the chapter.
>>741896667I really, really hope Picrel is true and Toby didn't just lose his ability to write anymore
So does Seth know Berdly is on deaths door in the Weird route?
>>741891472>Boss fight starts because Noelle looks at the Fun Gang and thinks “how much EXP”
>>741896825I had my doubts but after Chapter 5's WR I'm 100% convinced Sans has an agenda and knows what's going on
>>741896803>Does she specifically say I bullied you because of Noelle?Yes
Flowery was right about everything btw Kris doesn't care about Asgore, at least not as much as the Flowers did. While the Flowers did everything they could to help Asgore move on from what happened, Kris set Asgore up to be sacrificed by the KnightRalsei's entire attitude around the prophecy is self defeating. He slavishly marches down the path fate sets for him, seethes a ridiculous amount when other Darkners don't, and he's not even brave enough to treat the lightners the same way. He WISHES he could face sure defeat and death with the bravery Flowery can, but he can't, and his ineptitude only makes him seethe more.Susie wants the dark worlds to keep happening forever, to keep going on adventures, to the point where she is literally living in Castle Town, yet she denied the Flowers that same life. When called out on this hypocrisy, she just shoved her head in the sand and kept going down the same path His onoy mistake was thinking Asgore was immature enough to prefer fantasy to reality
>>741895727Problem: Toby spends all of Ch5 completely inverting the characters, story, and themes of undertale:>Kris (Determination) is a completely unwilling participant who wants the worst for everybody>The souls and flowey, instead of being Asgore's victims/betraying him, are loved by him and love him in return>Character reflecting the merciless psychopath Flowey is inherently good and refuses to harm anyone>Aqua (Patience) is a bratty, hyperactive child with zero restraint, she talks over the heroes and guesses their motivations so she can get to fighting>Seth (Perseverance) repeatedly runs from the heroes and is revealed to be jobbing on behalf of Kris to simp for Berdly>Orange (Bravery) is extremely insecure and easily exploited>Green (Kindness) isn't really kind, just harmless and ambivalent, willing to treat everybody the same regardless of duty or morality>Yellow (Justice) is comically suicidal and a complete fool, whose sense of justice is based solely on what he's being told in the moment >Blue (Integrity) deliberately presents the opposite of their true gender, coerces and manipulates others, and speaks in a fake-refined way with no substance (Blue also has the least screentime of any flower by far. Toby knew how grating this character was and that seriously challenging him would cause the wokefags to realize what's happening)>Lastly, MewMew's arc is about accepting that her body defines her mind, not the other way around (exact opposite of being a tranny)With that in mind can you really assume Asgore's colors unironically reflect soul traits? (I wrote all this up for something else but it seemed appropriate to post here)
>>741896906Toby buried this deep deep down but Sans is related to Gaster, he knows whats up
>>741896790Yes. the secret boss also doesn't directly give you any equipment for winning. It instead unlocks a shop where if you collect all of the extra pink coins you can purchase 3 out of 6 items
So has anyone pointed this out yet? Noelle didn't say Dess disappeared, she "left". To me this strongly implies that Dess walked out on her family, probably on bad terms. This explains her absence, Noelle's reaction at the spelling bee, and her searching for Dess online. In the normal route, Noelle talks about having wanted to run away from Hometown for a long time, but not having the courage to do so. I'm not even going to shit on Dessknighters here, she still may be the Knight, but I think everyone misinterpreted the meaning of "lost" girl. Dess isn't lost, Noelle lost her.
>>741896790>Are the pink coins only for the secret boss?You can use them to buy the human soul items each item cost about 3 coins eachi sugest you buy the knife and armor and if you are left with only 1 coin left buy the scarf also.
>>741896854Chara has tons of coomgold, anon.
its ok when fromsoft does it
>>741896880yea he was late to the dark world because he fell, in the weird route he's right there, the only npc present in this dark and twisted area. And he winks at the camera and says this.
>>741896878Either the knight can use magic in the light world, or Carol did it. Those are the only two options.
asking noelle to ride with youaborted genocide???????????????????????
She says I'm interesting :)
>>741896868Iji remake fucking when?
>>741896535>>741895645>>741896291This makes me think of something, and even more so after Ralsei showing he knows about meta info and also showing knowledge of being able to modify the meta variables (if he wanted to but he has not(?))Ralsei is part of the ROOTS in both senses of having roots in every dark world but also in also being a root user of the Deltarune simulation, knowing how the Prophecy* (*script) unfoldsMaybe there are more such cases of "roots", seeing as Flowery had enough of a certain kind of power to also be able to manipulate said meta variables?Chapter 5 is just giving us more theories than fucking answers
>>741896868/sus/ was pure suicidal fuel
>>741896828Kek
>>741896714I always feared toby would pull a celeste and "come out" once the game is done, aren't some of the devs already referring to him by they/them?
>>741896880Monke, put down the gun. We can talk this through.
>>741896550You have to be a real freak to not piss your pants over doing the weird route and only freaks make good art
>>741896173Reminder to get the True Ending you will need-All crystals-thornring-all eggs delivered-exactly correct vessel layout (this is randomized per game copy and not revealed until the end of the game)-eaten all moss and inspected all beds-mannequin-at least 5 dog dollars-did NOT collect the banana (too much potassium ruins plan)anything i forgot?
>>741896961I assumed it was Noelle still being in denial
You people do realize that Deltarune is for baby gamers right? For people who don't play video games at all
>>741895574I don't expect real answers until chapter 7And I doubt we're getting everything unless Deltarune is Toby's last gameAll mysteries can be solved with just a couple scenes
>>741890948Schizo theory time, but what if the Weird Route was the fever dream Toby had?
>>741896880The knight is really durable. Smashing into a wall shouldn't damage him more than everything else the party did to him in chapter 3. He was already injured.
>>741890948Why? this boss is WAY EASIER than the knight
>>741896989Anon prepare for kino
god flower man is so hype, are we sure we didn't get the secret boss and the chapter boss mixed up?
>>741896987>>741896989I hate noelle so much its fucking unreal. Can't she just let me have adventures with susie and ralsei?
Oh, we have two threads again.Doubleposting then.Anon, you requested this.
>>741896826what about the shadow crystal?
>>741896664Imagine her being all angry as she is grossed out but she keeps doing it anyway with a hint of blush
>>741896550always has been
Please don't say it. I'll cum.
>>741896825>When you're a janny for a 4d god's simulation and you're tasked to find how and where he glitched out of reality by drowning two kids>>741896906Tori's dialogue early in the chapter is sus too, he 100% purposely went out of his way to distract tori so chapter 4 could happen.
>>741896658>main route is prophecyslopBut Sans comes from the Weird Route timeline
>>741896714>he'll transition himselfAlready mid-way there
>>741896362>Bahamut Lagoon poster was rightSo can someone give me a qrd on this ?
>>741896687My brother in Christ, it's literally on a Flower based on a Heart-shaped soul from a guy that's suffering from Red Soul Contamination.It's fairly obvipusly intended to be heart-shaped.
If we get a game over when we die and the world "gets covered in darkness" then why doesn't the world get covered in darkness when Kris and Noelle drown on the weird route?
>>741897073Nope now Susie is ditching you for noelle
>>741890948I can make a fangame about a “what if” about Onionsan going to the festival with you named Onion Route and it will still be better than the excuse that is chapter 5. The route could even extend to other chapters.
I haven't 100%'d Undertale because I never beat Sans
>>741897030You will need to have FUN with your froends too! :)
>>741896520Is it true that Toby had trannies in charge of the game's writing?Wasn't that the primary WHY Homestuck has gone to shit in the first place?It sounds like to me Toby learned nothing from Hussie's mistakes
>>741896568They're fused and Cute is into it while Mad is absolutely hating it
>>741897090>Tori's dialogue early in the chapter is sus too, he 100% purposely went out of his way to distract tori so chapter 4 could happen.It seemed to me like Sans did it to prevent her from getting kidnapped since we know that she's one of the Knight's targets.
>>741896825>Susie mentioning that the house is pretty new and she doesn't really remember what used to be there>In Undertale they apparently just "showed up" one dayYeah
>>741896565Nah he has to be. His dialogue from Tenna in Chapter 3 implied he got rid of sometime ago at some point because he wasnt needed. Kris doesnt know where the Headband is. Perhaps the location is relevant to explain how he gets through the Dark Worlds?
>>741897150same. that fucker buck broke my ass
>>741895903Does she explicitly say she bullied him because of that? I think she was also jealous of having Toriel for a mom.
>>741897075wtf, how do you get a balloon?
I took Aqua, Seth and Yellow, what about you guys
>>741897064Nah this time around the main antagonist gets to be the gigaknower
>>741897073Susie likes Noelle more.
>>741897114A kusoge Square JRPG where you get literally NTR'd
>>741896961Then what's your take on what "that terrible day" Asgore was talking about was?
>>741896987This specifically checks for the optional WR interaction with the ferris wheel poster. You can get a different, better aborted WR scene if you don't set that flag
>>741897141>Onionsan going to the festival with you named Onion Route As long as together we have to take down multiple goner assasins that want to take her down for discovering gaster secrets i would play it
>>741897150>>741897203He's very easy, go beat him now.https://jcw87.github.io/c2-sans-fight/
So I think we can all agree, Rudy isn't the knight
>>741897220I despise yellow and his tranny bf. I took green instead of him.
>>741896961Then what's all the ominous "find her" shit about?
>>741897089PROCEEDPROCEEDPROCEEDPROCEEDGET STRONGER GET STRONGER GET STRONGER
>>741896075>People here joke for years about Onion being kidnapped by the G gang>it actually happened, and they also killed him, cooked him and gave him for free to townspeople to make it 10 times worse
>>741894229>it wasnt censored>it was hinting at Side B save shenanigans>flower losing its pedals (5a)>ice cracking (5b)>IT WAS NEVER A CENSOR
>>741897202Ralsie is not an object, retard. This was extensively discussed already. Know your place.
>>741896878Same way he did Undyne. He seems to be able to exist during the night.
What is the most popular theory, that chapter 7 side b will have us piloting the original vessel in the meat factory, a literal corpse in the depths, or that kris and noelle will somehow survive (and made it to the depths)?
After this chapter I’m done with Susie. Replace her ass with berdly.
>>741897150He's still the hardest boss Toby has made and has the best final attack
>>741897158>It sounds like to me Toby learned nothing from Hussie's mistakesBecause he wants to be Hussie, repeating Hussie's mistakes wouldn't be a problem to him.It's undeniable these disgusting freaks are holding Toby hostage or something, imagine being 30 something years old and still get groomed by a bunch of lifeless trannies. O'Sullivan Law at play here.Spoilered cause looking at trannies is a cognitive hazard.
nerf bombs
Any missable content i should be warned about?
>>741896961That's largely Noelle coping I doubt Carol let her listen to Asgore's recall of events
>>741897283It's not the same.
>>741897283>no lagdoesn't count
>>741897030-an Undertale save file with Gaster's FUN value and at least 66.6 hours of playtime
>>741890948toby is such a spineless coward when it comes to having any sort of challenge in his games now
>>741897292>rudy has a fall irl>knight shows up in the dark world, clearly not at their a-game with a bum leg
Wait people had trouble with the bosses?I died once to the final boss (forgot to buy items) and once to the hidden boss (again items)
>>741897292Nope. All it means is that Asgore is not an accomplice. Nothing else changed.
>>741890948>You have unlocked Easy Mode
>>741897272Dess stormed out, ended up hanging with Kris and Asriel, Asriel gets seperated and they are by the lake. Kris accidentally pushes Dess into the lake, she dies and gets scattered in the code.Toriel finds Kris and helps cover it up
>>741895462I'm getting the feeling that Susie's growing to distrust Kris, somehow. This feels more than just yuri ga-ga goggles.
>>741890948I like this change because it doesn't affect the fight assuming you could beat it before
>>741896598>Sans will give you bread to track you down and seem to know that something isn't right, the bread doesn't stay if you abort the routesemi related, but I noticed that if you choose to use Toriel's honey toast in front of her, she makes a comment about Kris getting crumbs everywhere
>>741897327>He seems to be able to exist during the night.oh shit that sounds cool. Could explain why it took him so long to get to ch5 dark world, was waiting for the darkest hour
>>741896987yep, I’m putting more kromer on the “Noelle is killing everyone in Castle Town” suggestion
>>741897250yea actually what the fuck flowery is the one with the meta knowledge this timein every other chapter the shadow crystal boss is a knower but mew mew was just some rando, she had no real meta knowledgeflowery legit is the ACTUAL schizo boss he even makes you a colored soul
>>741897030>Gave the Plushie to whichever character you flirted with the most>Picked up every unique item>Hit less than 3 cars
>>741897310I'm gonna have a talk with Gaster about this one.
>>741896961she might've disappeared or died and the parents just said that she ran away to not break her heart?
Dess Kris stocks?
>>741897123Gaster just fucking watched two teenagers drown lmao, also yeah, it's obvious they didn't die, after all, they are ''something else''
>>741897292There are troglodytes here that actually believe Rudy's medical emergency was a fall and not a flare-up of the previous condition that hospitalized him
So all shadow crystals are from lightners' lost dreams.Spamton's is from Mettaton.Gerson's is from Alvin.Pink's is from Mad Dummy.The Knight's is presumably from the Knight themself.Who is the source of Jevil's?
>Ship so bad people turn on Susie and Noelle, theorize that the very narrative is brainwashing them into character-assassinated puppylovers>Singlehandedly makes fans lose faith in the author's creative integrity>It's now unanimous that the freaky creepypasta route is the more interesting than whatever is going on in Neutral/True>The one where Noelle is thoroughly mindbroken and hungry for power to escape the monotony of her 'good girl' life and drowns herself and her friend who is nothing but an unwilling vessel for the voice that commanded herReally makes you think. Makes you think that a certain development shouldn't have happened.
>We're in Chapter 7>Everyone's been defeated>The Roaring can't be stopped anymore>The game's stuck in an unwinnable defeat loop>Everyone starts calling for help>Eventually they end up calling (YOU)>Gaster (or whoever the hell it actually is) finally gives you access to your Vessel>Time to fucking lock in with every last bit of metabreaking knowledge you've gotMy body is ready.
>>741897343Not defending troons but Lena was there since chapter 2 and has helped with Attack of the Killer Queen
>>741897443It was a funny subversion.
>>741897374I had trouble with the secret boss but that mainly because of the stupid bomberman minigame.
>>741896630Laddery will pull itself up from the Knight's reach and Glass Ceilingry will shatter dealing massive (physical) damage.
>>741897397To be fair every /v/irgin I asked hate all the blue interactions. I grimaced when I saw Blue, just fucking disgusting.
>>741897331I think susie stocks might be down even more than toriel stocks were at ch 4's end
>>741897341True. But it was thematically justified for him to be that hard. There isn't really something overarching in Deltarune to justify having an analogously hard boss. It would just be gratuitous.
>depths of the sea are seen as one of the darkest natural things in existence>"through the waves" in RUYB>underwater background during goner maker>for there to be fountains there needs a source>term for darkness taking over light world is roaring, like a sound descriptor for waves>with your heart as the arkthere's going to be a biblical flood in either chapter 6 or 7 (no joke intended), right?
>>741896962>and if you are left with only 1 coin left buy the scarf also.the scarf doesn't take coins, it takes flowerbucksit's just a bonus freebie if you got all the coins
>>741896598>Susie comment that the goner cartel wasn't at the festival during the WR, meaning they probably are only here to oversee Kris/The soul or are scared of the result of the WRactually god tier writing on this whole onion san saga
>>741896987Abortion route will be great in chapter 6
at least we got a loli out of this chapter, gonna draw some pornof her later
Yuri won
>>741896671>Chapter 1 was Toby's unchanged, untampered with vision for DeltaruneGod, I miss chapter 1. I will never forget the feeling it and Undertale gave me when playing them for the first time. Deltarune should have ended at that very moment, it should have remained a what if. Everything after it has been a constant let down (with the exception of Spamton)
>>741891472>PROCEED'ed your big fat throbbing SOUL into her doe pussy so hard over and over she gets completely mindbroken into being your RPG party slave and grinds out EXP because it would make you happythat's my little deer rapist!
>>741897443It's a reference to the fact that Flowey knew a lot of stuff, but here it's because Flowery was in a dark world a long time ago.
I don't think we mindbroke her hard enough, genobros. She shouldn't be suggesting us to command her. She should be made subservient.
>>741897310Does he still sell octopus if you never talked to Onion?
>>741896961You know, now that you mention it... Is there any explicit dialogue in the game saying that Dess died? Off the top of my head I can't think of any and it's basically what everyone in the fandom assumes, but you pointing this out has me wondering
>>741897556But at what cost
>>741897537Roaring is a flood of darkness erupting from the lake that can't be stopped
>>741897091main route will end in a time loop because susie won't let the story end, mark my words>>741897210say no when susie asks you to walk her "home"
>>741895498In Tenna's room, I didn't give away my Tenna so maybe you missed it because of that
>>741897465Nobody thought that.Call me idealistic, but it was pretty obvious when Rudy went to the Church then had his condition worsen as a result.He just can't do physical things anymore.
>the humanfag chara worshipper won by having his loli dreams come trueI'm actually in the worst timeline, what the fuck.
>>741897292Ironically enough Rudy Knight is still alive. The Knight being late in chapter 5 is VERY easily explained by Rudy's fallAnd he has MORE WEIRD DIALOGUE in chapter 5
>>741897465>actually believe Rudy's medical emergency was a fall and not a flare-up of the previous condition He was fucking around on top of a ladder and almost falls once from coughing when we see him. It can be both.
>>741895310the disregarding meta mechanics bit I laughed off as a joke, but it's much more serious than I first thoughti like this a lot
when the darkworld is destroyed, flowery has told susie about the code, and said to not tell anyone, including kris maybe, so does asgore know something and its trying to hide from kris? assuming everything flowery knows is because of asgore
They're sickeningI hate Gay people
>>741897530I had more of a "oh yeah that checks out" reaction during his reveal and Seth cafe scene
>>741897530I know it's just getting harder and harder to defend this game
>>741897210Refuse to walk Susie "home"
>>741897403It has something to do with dark worlds according to Asgore.
>>741897586Of course there isn't. Even Asgore vagueposts about it.
>>741897310>Onion gets takoyaki'd for the crime of existing in the lake where WR Noelle gets drowned
>>741897158What Toby is doing basically, Toby orders a scene, his team codes it, if it's bad, Toby rejects it, but if it fits his ''vision'' he keeps it, something like that
>>741897343>imagine being 30 something years old and still get groomed by a bunch of lifeless trannies.Anon, Hussie took him under his wing when Toby was 16-17 at most. The guy spent his entire life being groomed.
>>741897465Noelle literally says he "Fell Down"
>>741897465Here's your Rudy
Gaster either is very interested by the WR or he's tweaking at what is happening
To the genuine /u/fags, what do they think about Suselle?
At the very least it looks like we're going to find out what Sans' deal is. Definitely part of the metanarrative if he can keep tabs on an anomaly be transplanted into a new timeline
>>741897565I think Chapter 2 had the same "spirit" as well although it was beginning to falter with the inclusion of Berdly and Noelle
>>741896173>You can get as many thorn rings as you want from choicer overflow glitch at the bagel shop>Toby deliberately left this and many other glitches in the gameI'd just grab a thorning on every file just in case the "breaking the game" motif goes more literal
>>741894229It really shows how pornbrained deltafags are when the wording can be interpreted by anyone who's not chronically online as trauma conditioning by emotional abusers
susie's definitely only wearing this because it reminds her of her HERO
Did Toby mention whenever chapter 6 or 7 was coming out? Are we really supposed to just wait until there's another nintendo direct for it to get announced?
>>741896946>>Kris (Determination) is a completely unwilling participant who wants the worst for everybodyWe really don't know what his game is regarding the stuff he does without (You) but he's obviously conflicted and cares deeply for both Susie and Noelle. He's pretty goddamn determined to do whatever the hell he's up to.
>>741897443mew mew persons in one body and having the body want to date is allegory to kris with us, where kris himself wants to fuck the purple dragon but us dont
>>741897123>If we get a game over when we die and the world "gets covered in darkness" then why doesn't the world get covered in darkness when Kris and Noelle drown on the weird route?Anon did you forget about the fake body you make at the start of the gameim pretty sure we will use that crap on chapter 7 on weird route since our fake body got killed off.
Yeah fuck waiting for this.Does anybody know of any other games where you're in a small town and you slowly realize that there is a past history with all the main characters that you're slowly uncovering? That's honestly the best part about this so far.
>>741897579If she wants something she better be saying please before asking
>>741897676gaster wants the weird route since he wants to see a new future, main route is stuck due to susie not letting it end
>>741897403>Kris accidentally pushes Dess into the lakethere's a reason kris looks like a corpse without (You), anonnoelle's just replicating what dess did without realising it, only this time there's a SOUL tagging along to make it actually work without getting scattered
>>741897361what fucking lag? are you playing on a literal toaster???
>Noelle stop really listening to Kris and now is the one ordering aroundI want this.
was asgore saying very, very interesting just an ebin reference?
Did Nips actually like the chapter?
>>741897708
>>741897676he's annoyed that he had to restart the VCR player
>>741897613OBSESSED>OBSESSEDOBSESSED>OBSESSEDOBSESSED>OBSESSED
>>741897465Nah, the ladder beat the shit out of him
So what was the point of those two posts on the official X account in the end? Is Gaster just fucking senile?
>>741897739The Pope uses a computer from the roman empire.
>>741897725twin peaks or something. videogames are a dead end because the people who make them aren't real artists
>>741897708The description on the game's Steam page was updated to say that Chapter 6 is aiming for a 2027 release
>>741897613seeing most of the flowers be males when he was adamant on "ALL THE HUMANS ARE FEMALES!" probably made him kill himself. i havent seen that fag at all today.
>>741897708hopefully early 2027 for 6, at least thats what the steam page saysif we're lucky, late 2027 for 7
>>741897685undertale literally had you edit config files (unless you wanted to spend your life rolling rng seeds) so it's not out of the picture desu
>>741892468he's not very hard so it's not really a flex, I don't really care tbdesu
>>741897725That's just Twin Peaks. You can try Deadly Premonition, which is a direct ripoff of it.
>>741897739the game has built in input lag retard
>>741897676I hope ''Gaster watched two teenagers drown'' becomes a meme
>>741897797Is twin peaks still worth if you know who did it?
>keep thinking about how hot aqua was while playingshit
I blame rudyfags for the lack of new Knight porn
Gentlemen, I have completed the fifth chapter and I am very, very disappointed. I was excited for reveals about Asgore, I was excited for progression in the main plot, I was excited about the festival, I was excited for a kino schizoboss, I was excited to see the final form of the dark shards and I was hoping for less Susie/Noelle romance.>We learnt literally nothing we hadn't already known>Besides Asgore getting kidnapped not one thing has happened>Kris literally sleeps through the festival>There is no cliffhanger/plot twist that makes me excited for the next chapter>Finding the last few pink coins was cancer>Schizoboss was fun and flashy but with no eerie aspect like Jevil/Spamton/Knight>Couldn't even create the twisted sword>Ralsei weirdly an asshole out of nowhere>Plus I got cuckedWORST DAY EVER
>>741896329KekCan I call her Seth2 to not confuse her with the other one
>>741897725You're gonna love Twin Peaks.
>>741897030You need to collect the nine spare pink coins to buy the wokebeam from mewmew in ch6
>>741897725higurashi
>>741897310Gaster and his bros are most based people in deltarune >Personally invites you to chceck out his vidya>Makes you awesome vessel>Supports you during knight fight>Gives you free foodNo one can compare
>>741897725I think omari is about thatAlso Yiik
>>741897673DING DING DING. Fallen down in monster culture basically means on deaths door. BUt I doubt its that bad as Noelle needs to join us next chapter. She isn't going to do that if her dads about to die
That's it, I've had enough of you guys.
>>741897749SHE LOOKED TOO FARRRRRR
>>741897676he's a mad scientistmad scientists don't care about their experiments failing if the result is something even more interesting, plus it's likely the game has been looping for so long that he's bored of the original prophecy
Why can't we be friends?
>Perseverance. >Seth IMMEDIATELY gives up on an attack if it fails to damage you once
>>741897797Just you wait, anons....just you wait....
>>741897485>gives you access to your VesselYou gotta go back and watch the start of the game again cause that's not how it played out. (We) were supposed to get the vessel as our body/tool to interact with the world, not Kris. But through the will or act of some other party or entity ("Nobody gets to choose who they are in this world."), we got cockblocked and so we have to make do with Kris instead which is not ideal for him or us or anyone.
>>741894229>double suicide is more sexually charged than rapeI don't agree with you but I'm going to call you based nonetheless
>>741897839>the story was so boring this chapter anons were too busy thinking of fucking a flower to care about it
>>741895829What was going to be Kris's excuse if they did rip it up? Susie knew about it because Flowery told her and went looking for it very quickly. Was the flower man about to catch Kris in a trap?
>>741897912*
>>741897845>Gentlemen, I have completed the fifth chapter and I am very, very disappointedwelcome to the club
>>741897676Gaster is happy because the weird route is us ditching kris to finally reunite with his original plan, the vessel.
>>741897537>Asgore describes the fountain as "A black river rising out of the ground"
>>741897912___ _______ ______!
>>741897208>Does she explicitly say she bullied him because of that?Yeah
>>741897912That would disable you too though unless you'll tell us your name
>>741897951Susie has negative IQ, so he'd just make up an excuse.
>>741897708Chapter 6 2027
>>741897824Isn't that right, Zach?
>Even Joel thought it was a bit mehIt's over
>>741897684The city part with Kris and Noelle was the last time this game got close to ch1, it all went downhill after that. 3 and 4 have some good character moments but everything else is strictly inferior
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>>741897946NTA but the part where you have to mash left while she ask you to "keep saying it" with mania feels sex-adjacent.
>>741897912uh ruhruh uh uh ruh ruh uh ruh uh
>>741897912…
>>741897784>get's beaten up by a ladder both in the dark world and outside of dark worlddoubters?
>>741897030You can't get the Ch2 egg if you got the ThornRing
>>741894009
>>741897912*You will have to try harder than this.
>>741891732apologized
>>741895903I know Susie's dumb as bricks but there's no way she thought Kris "Avoidant" Dreemurr was dating Noelle and got pissy over that. Kris has been dodging Noelle for years on end.
>>741898050The chapter was never meant to be that good, even Toby won't claim this is his best work. Why does it exist? Who knows.
>>741897838>Is twin peaks still worth if you know who did it?If you liked silent hill gameplay then sure you will love the game but if you hate that shitty stiff gameplay you will hate ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcvTwk1cfzI
>>741897845Your fault for picking the path where nothing happens instead of the path that skips it
>>741897906That's the problem with Monster terminology. He could have literally just fell down and broke his leg or something. Remeber, on your way back home for Susie, the hanging lights aren't all up.
>>741897725omori
>>741896757Say the words.Say you want this.Nothing happens until she hears you say it.
>>741897845Everyone here shares the same sentiment, a complete, complete waste of time.Coming out of Chapter 4 I was hoping for an incredible, moody Dark World reflecting Asgore's state of mind, a dying land of undeath and despair. I was expecting the thick, incredible atmosphere from the ROOTS room to be the norm for Chapter 5.Alas, fucking NOTHING happened, we got nothing but disgusting, uninteresting storylines that served no purpose other than to distract the entire story from what's really at hand. Weird Route made up for it, though.
>retarded 13 year olds who didn't know what anglicanism was were trying to convince me that toby is right wing because he's episcopalian>chapter 5 comes out>woody gay sex>gay flowey who spent the entire chapter lusting for asgore has therapy talk with ralsei that ends with ralsei's pronouns changing to they/them in stats screenIt's too christpilled...
is it implied that the knight was involved with dess's death given that asgore is very likely correct that her death/disappearance involved a dark world?
>>741897771>aiming for 2027>2027 isn't said in the actual endingYeah it's for 2028
>>741897845it's a shame, i still can't tell if we mindfucked ourselves into thinking this chapter was supposed to be good or if deltarune's development is fucked. i think the ending of ch4 made it feel like things were getting serious and we justified everything backeards from that
>>741896961dess went out of bounds through the lake like kris and noelle do in the weird route. someone saw her and thought she drowned herself, but they never found a body. she probably told noelle she was leaving, and that's what noelle latched on to instead of the suicide story.
>>741897404Susie doesn't need Kris, she has Noelle now.
>>741897030be in the right save file slot
>>741897272I honestly don't know. I suspect something in the next chapter (or knowing Toby, chapter 7) will shed more light on that.>>741897032>>741897357She doesn't come off as someone in denial. In the weird route, she talks about feeling like she's "been watching her life through glass". Going through the motions, being on autopilot. This points towards deep trauma and depression. Besides, what would Carol have told her? "Dess left forever, sorry sweetie". No, Noelle's behavior points towards something farm more sudden. Specifically saying "left" means that Dess left, as in "I'm leaving!!". Noelle watched her sister walk out of her life forever and never recovered.>>741897298Finding the "real" Noelle. She's wearing a mask right now, but it's starting to crumble. Whether because of yuri magic in the normal route, or (YOU) in the weird route, you'll find her soon.
>>741897753Just like half the stuff in the game. >Any mention of Pink and Gold>Any mention of the world revolving>Any mention of FRIEND>The Mikes specifically saying "Air Waves motif"
>>741897725If you are ok with VN's - scarlet hollow
>>741897912***
>>741898173>ralsei's pronouns changing to they/them in stats screenwait really?
>>741897912_______________________________?!
>>741895574So half of the community are trannies only here for the lgbt ride? Worrying.
>>741897123Unless the knight also drowned, leaving no one to cover the world in darkness and thus making that the only "game over" screen without an actual game over.The more obvious answer is that they just didn't die though.
>>741898176It said aiming for 2026 before Chapter 5's releaseAlso Toby said Ch6 is easier to develop so we'll likely have it in a year
>>741897925>Seth has no Perseverance>Aqua has no Patience>Orange has no BraveryWowww it's almost like the twist here is that the flowers actually LACK the quality that they embody in Undertale!**Can't say anything for Green though.**
>>741897325He is an object you dumb fucking retard. He was ONE with Kris before. We know this little nigga was wearing Ralsei in his head for a bunch of his life.
>>741897725Try Chrono Arkit has a nice meta horror slow reveal thing going on and as a bonus the gameplay is pretty good
>>741897845I'm still hoping this is all a vivid nightmare and that I'm going to wake up any day now. I never imagined ch5 could ever end up being this bad, I couldn't make it worse if I tried.
>>741898270Green is kinda petty which can be seen as unkind
>>741897921Because that fucking thing attacked me.
>>741898231>yuri magicDoubtful. If anything that's cementing her mask.
>>741897586Ball machine secret where touching the guitar pick on the ground makes your hand disappear
>>741897356Nothing gets locked via chapter progression so play as usual, if you explore there's these pink coins which you'll need about half for the secret boss and all of them for good gear, we don't know if festival choices have any bearing outside of dialogue but they probably don't
>>741898297Get with the program, Ralsei is plant (forest)
>>741898321We can make our own DELTA RUNE, without the gay retarded melodrama
>>741898297No. Watch any theory video about it. Ralsie it not an object. It violates the rules of the setting.
>>741898321>I couldn't make it worse if I tried.considering the most liked part of it was the ability to skip it I have to agree
>All I'm saying is, if Kris and Noelle drown the knight is no more. And if I'm wrong I'll kms I guess.
>>741898236the humor in this chapter was entirely referential, it's losing sincerity and just turning into a parody of itself and the community around the gametoby needs to cut off all ties and just return to him and temmie making the game, all the other writers are dragging it down drastically
>>741898251>Ralsei LV5 Dark Vine>Watering their own thorns.
Kris will watch from the chair.
>>741896520I don't think I like the change. I want to say it's a mix of both, but if it's just the Noelle thing it really makes Susie pretty fucking shallow. Not cool, dino girl.
>>741897009>aren't some of the devs already referring to him by they/them?Source??? Big shot if true.
>>741898382The anons over at the fangames threads are already doing that, power to them
>>741896075don't blame normal, he's just following orders.
>>741897951>Was the flower man about to catch Kris in a trap?Of course he did. Flowery spent the entire chapter spelling out over and over that Kris isn't trustworthy.
>>741898163I want this.
>>741898251Yes.But he can literally rewrite stats…so the implication might not even be voluntary
>>741898145>Why does it exist? Who knows.This is what I'm most curious about, Ch 5 is obviously part of a much bigger picture but with the chapter-release-style we don't have context for a LOT of things. I'm most curious about what Toby's original concept and ideas for Flower King looked like and what led to it.
>>741897465Nigger are you serious you literally see he fell on the ground in the Weird route. Play the fucking game.
>>741898370>ROOTS>ralsei is compatible with every dark world, and capable of moving between them, because he is literally the forest's ROOTSthe poor children, lost where the forest would grow.
>>741898050Joel liked the gay shit thoso who cares about what he says
>chapter 1 is silly>chapter 2 is silly>chapter 3 is silly but then sudden gets less silly as the knight reveals themself>chapter 4 is less silly and the prophecy hints that really bad stuff is about to happen>chapter 5 is silly again???Did Toby put the chapters in the wrong order?
>RudyKnight is catching up to DessKnightRudy bros, we are winning.
Susie was supposed to be like pic related. Where did it all go wrong?!
>>741898382>hired andrew hussieanon, I...
People haven't really thought about it, but the Aborted Route kind of implies that Noelle wasn't actually satisfied by what happened at the lake in the Normal route. That was all just Noelle being a Noelle. Walking down the same path. She's at heart, a deeply ill and psychotic person. She was never happier than when Kris had her murder Berdly, and She's only interested in Kris because they stopped being Kris. Susie doesn't offer Noelle what she actually wants, because what Noelle wants is to trample over others, to dominate them. She's fundamentally someone who wants to walk out of bounds, who tortured her cats so she could get a funny colored egg. There's no way the safe path could make her happy
What are people's theories on Kris' original soul? At first it makes sense that Kris lost it during the Dess incident, but that was several years ago and he seems to be dying without us.Where did our soul come from and when did Kris lose his?
>>741898227naivesince you can copy files between slots you actually need to beat each chapter in the correct slow, which changes each chapter
>>741898382Deltarune yellow does exist... Granted, you don't get Toby quality writing (when it's good so usually), music or designs
>>741898474You were explictly told before it came out that chapter 5 was the final fun adventure before everything turned serious.
>>741898415Ralsei being a plantnigga makes “their” make more sense
>>741897613CunnyGODS won bigly today.
>>741898438>Sans smirking at us gobbling down Onionsan
>>741898509Good pussy really breaks a nigga.
>>741898415"Their" is in reference to the Vines
>>741898493Feels great to have been one of the original 10 or so. DessKniggers are finally getting BTFO'd.
>>741898474>chapter 5 is fake silly as the bad stuff is looming and you can't go back to real silly anymore
>>741897912>UUU what does that mean?
>>741891732So, he got the "Don't forget" card in Ch5.How is he gonna get yeeted into the Undertale universe?
>>741897774It's his final cope over humangods winning bigly, let him have it.
>>741898474read between the lines, the prophecy had to force things back on track.DELTARUNE is a silly hero adventure with goofy characters in a world doomed to end.you wouldnt ruin the silly adventure just to save the world, right?you wouldnt... freeze lancer before he has a chance to say toothpaste boy, right?
>>741898315NTA but picked up. Thanks for the rec, anon.
>>741898474Chapter 1 is probably the most serious chapter what are you talking about
>>741898536Yeah, that puts a real damper on the "knight has Kris's soul" theory. The red soul is clearly a recent thing, while the knight is several years old.
>>741898576Are you ESL?
>>741898614The machine
>>741898589It means you're a 3/4ths guy
>>741898529>People haven't really thought about it, but the Aborted Route kind of implies that Noelle wasn't actually satisfied by what happened at the lake in the Normal route.Scratch that, it implies everything about her Normal behavior is a carefully constructed lie. From her perspective Suselle is not love but yet another "Noelle thing".
chapter 6 will be way more gay and lgbtq than chapter 5
>>741898614>Walks to the lake following your bread crumbs>Sees two dead bodies floating on the river>FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCKMr janny over here is gonna have to earn his pay
>>741898432>The anons over at the fangames threads are already doing that, power to themAnon that a lie since There is no one in /v/ or gamejolt that is actually doing a full version of deltarune.
>>741897802Shouldn't you be busy writing another cope fanfiction over Suselle?
I hope toby release 6 an 7 in a bundle. Wait is preferable than a cliffhanger where nothing is explain.
>>741896825you fuckers finally gonna catch on? toby's been warning us for a decade nowBEWARE THE MAN FROM THE OTHER WORLD.
>>741897009>aren't some of the devs already referring to him by they/them?that doesn't exactly mean anything these days, i've noticed there's been an effort by some people on the internet lately to make they/them the default way to refer to everybody, even after that big push to specify pronouns on absolutely everything
>>741898656No, I'm just not retarded and can understand the basic rules of english
>>741898707>sans has to make the phone call that saved DELTARUNE
>>741898509Susie was always an antagonist. You should have realized it last chapter, when it was revealed that she's The Dragon and taking the place of the real girl (Noelle). Probably as part of a plan by everyone in town to sacrifice and kill Susie in place of the predicted death of Noelle
>>741898554You can have a fun adventure and still have some lore reveals and serious moments that aren't drowned in irony
>>741898432Aren't they crying over Ch5 doing all of their ideas or something?
>>74189864790% of chapter 1 is Lancerposting
>>741898270Seth's form of perseverance is either trying something else if the first thing didn't work, or repeatedly only doing the same attack if it worked the first time.Yellow is obsessed with punishments as justiceGreen insists you return the 2 bucks she previously lent youOrange is steeped in bravado and taunts.Aqua is WAITmaxxing by way of arrested developmentBlue is a grown ass man wearing a tutu
>>741897496Yeah and it's my least favorite boss theme in the game
>>741898713/v/ cannot make anything besides VNs. You should already know this.
>>741898209Chapter 3+4 felt like a slow, methodical setup, with Ralsei doubting himself, with Susie growing to be more than just destructive, with Kris' allegiance to the Knight revealed, with so many questions left hanging, I don't think we were wrong to expect something high-stakes from Chapter 5. But it ended up being a somewhat entertaining but utterly forgettable experience.>>741898170Is the weird route really quite so good? I've replayed this game for every chapter release and I don't really feel like doing it again considering its length. Would I be robbing myself if I just watched it on youtube?>>741898321picrel is mfwThis was worse than that one time Sans Deltarune fucked my mom...
>>741896987this isn't possible??? the aborted weird route in chapter 5 takes place AFTER the festival. unless this is an aborted chapter 2 weird route.
>>741898509Don't ever forget this lesson. Getting pussy will fuck up a person even more than no getting pussy.
Aborted WR in Chapter 2-4 probably won't have a lot of consequences beside maybe a few alternative dialogues, but aborted WR in chapter 5 is going to have a lot of changes, they wouldn't have made such a big focus if not. Does any anon know if the game tracks you doing it?
Why was the purple flower named Seth? Seems a bit random when all the others are named after colors.
>>741898473The gay shit written by Toby (Suselle) isn't badThe rest of the chapter is the stinker imo
>>741898801This is when you bail from the rape scene, Noelle still carries the trauma of what you did
>>741898529Noelle is my favorite character bros…
>>741898790If Austin Jorgensen can make a game like Lisa with 0 prior game dev experience then anything is possible. I'm working on my own game right now, so wish me luck.
>>741898509So you can thirst for Noelle but it's wrong when THE PROTAGONIST does it ?
>>741898636Im shanking him with twisted sword
>>741898635kys nigger Im not on your side, you are a thorn, a shit stain and your death would benefit everyone around you
>>741898791You can watch it on YouTube, but something about what you HAVE to do in the Weird Route is so penetrative. Some anons have pointed out that it was deliberated designed to feel like sex with Noelle, and I agree.
>It's another plot about romance breaking up a promising friend groupYou hate to see it
What the fuck is going on with the ICE mascot looking even more creepy
>>741898529>People haven't really thought about itThis includes Toby.
>>741898707>Sans is the only character in Undertale who remember things between saves/resets
>>741898790>/v/ cannot make anything besides VNs. You should already know this.Touhou gaiden was made by a /v/ person anon.
>>741898791>Is the weird route really quite so good?It is the only reason to play Deltarune at this point. It's legit kino
>>741898791>Is the weird route really quite so good? I've replayed this game for every chapter release and I don't really feel like doing it again considering its length. Would I be robbing myself if I just watched it on youtube?That's what I did, it's 15-20 minutes at most and just dialogue, I'll probably go through WR route again later when I'm not fatigued from constant gay shitMight make it a full genocide run as well even though nothing happens as a result aside from castletown being empty
oh yeah they also ended the egg sidequests, what a joke... what did they do to my DELTARUNE?
>>741898832They just wanted to be more human, and humans have names
>>741898927>muh fanon
>>741898493how the fuck are people still doing these theories? rudy fucking dieddess confirmed not dead, just ran offcarol confirmed trying so solve the dark world shitnoelle has her own shit going onyou niggers will never guess the actual culprit cause you'll just keep ignoring what evidence the game is giving you
>>741897123they don't drown, that's the point. if you don't PROCEED and they drown, the game resets to the aborted weird route. if you fully commit and PROCEED all the way to the end, then noelle does the impossible, they make it through the lake and end up out of bounds.
>>741898832They're the only one that did research that humans have non-color names and are non-binary.
>>741897030mannequin?
>>741898832they found out humans have names so they picked a random human name to larp as a human
>>741898920How does he look like this chapter?
>>741898713There are some anons making full versions of Deltarune yellow
>>741898813>Does any anon know if the game tracks you doing it?It's been confirmed that both aborted and completed ch5 weird route set global flags, but those flags don't do anything yet
>>741898509>Trusting a dragon>Giving a dragon a hoard>Letting a dragon near your girlRookie mistakes
>>741898832They're the more erudite "human", so they know that real humans aren't named after their colors.
>>741897343Sara Spalding is a funny one because Toby discovered him as Shaun Spalding making gamemaker tutorials on youtube, toby learned from those to make undertale but never got any better at coding so he just hired his teacher to make deltarune
>>741898995if you think the knight isn't a holiday you're fucking retarded
>>741898927He doesn'tHe just learned how to tell that something is off through a human's body language when having conversations Even asgore knows about the nature of the humans but doesn't know the full extent of the meta aspects
>>741898704how? only straight characters this chapter were Burgerpants and Asgore (and we know how toby treats them lol)
>>741898995>dess confirmed not dead, just ran offDess is gone, the code voice is her. Kris can't even bring himself to read asriels letter (the one he read over and over) because he feels that bad, its why he's indebted to Carol
>>741898832ralsei parallel, overanalyzes shit.
>>741899048He has a creepy as fuck smile
My biggest fear each chapter release is that "Toby won't be able to do it again". And I feel like this time it finally happened. Chapter was heavily tranny coded to the point it was detrimental to the secret boss. We didn't get any answers, the Asgore plot was probably the most basic and safest thing that could have happened. And honestly I feel like the soundtrack for the chapter was pretty underwhelming. But maybe I was expecting all the flower stuff to have more obvious motifs.
>>741898813>Does any anon know if the game tracks you doing it?some dark world elements are different, like kris title, or a scene at the sauna I've heard, it's obviously tracked
>Chapter 7 releases>Everybody eagerly loads up their Ch.5 WR saves>It's just a blurry image of Kris and Noelle bobbing face-down in the water>The whole point of the route is just "Don't make video game characters aware of their reality or they'll kill themselves"
>>741898832Even though golden flower is named Flowery
>>741897474Susie
>>741898776That was only one guy, the rest said chapter 5 did not affect their plans
>>741899028you can buy a seemingly unusable mannequin item in chapter 2 getting both it and the thorn ring requires specific sequencing and backtracking
>>741898927>Sans is the only character in Undertale who remember things between saves/resets>forgetting about flowey who literally taunts you for reloading saves and eggs you on to kill toriel because it would be funny and nothing really matters when you can reload
>>741898995>rudy fucking diedsource?
>>741899002>if you don't PROCEED and they drown, the game resets to the aborted weird route.And Noelle keeps saying “nothing changed”, imagine it from her perspective >Proceeding failed >Everything snapped back to normal>This stupid faggot universe put you back on the railroad tracks>You have to pretend everything is normal>Because you’re surrounded by a bunch of retarded NPCsAt this point Noelle could be a schizoboss
>>741898353The missing hand metaphor seems to be largely associated with a loss of control. We know that the Dreemurr and Holiday kids were close, if Dess ran away from home, it would fuck with all of the others in a major way. Her leaving likely began Kris' path down his current route as a puppet. It even parallels Noelle's dialog in the weird route.
>>741899053>There are some anons making full versions of Deltarune yellowThat a reskinned version of deltarune anon that doesn't count as new game that a mod.
>>741896828It's funny because in a way it's true. It's very much so in the Avant Garde type of emotional dilemmas where ideally, Kris would simply be the happy supportive friend to the gay couple. Allowing him to be sort of psychotic about it is pretty novel, though that apart about making the cute lesbian girl double-suicide you was a bit harsh to be honest. A bit misandrist; if Kris is the stand-up for the male self-insert, but 'they' isn't because 'they're' a 'them'.
Gonna jerk off to Seth hyper ass tonight methinks.
>>741899070So maybe once he trooned out he had no choice but to keep him on the team? He might still be based?
>>741899072the game literally deconfirmed all 4 holiday family members, you need to get your head out of your ass.
>>741898832because toby made a Homestuck fankid named Seth Purple when he was a teenager and its now time to unleash it
>>741899065>Seth would hate Pokemon Red and Blue
>>741897058you don't have to beat the knight to progress through the main route... so...
>>741899062I wonder if doing both will end up impacting each others.Like Noelle wondering why you backed down or wondering why you tried again after saying noShe's going to end up similarly to Flowey in term of knowledge eventually
>>741898920He has Noelle's weird route smile.
>get this if you try to Stop instead of Proceed into the water with Noelleguys we may have taught her how to rape a little too well
>>741899193Actually it confirmed them. There is NO other reason for the knight to be so late to the scene
>>741898321
>>741897845You summarized my thoughts pretty wellMy interest for Deltarune is at all times low nowLiterally the only thing that keeps me interested is the Gaster stuff, which I know Toby will find a way to fuck it so horrendously I honestly don't even know if want to keep playing. The Suselle scenes was genuinely so fucking unbearable it felt like all the cuckelle memes has got Toby's nerves and he tripled down on yurishit, and most of flower designs is just shit (especially blue)How is this the same guy that wrote the weird route scenes and designed Tenna?
>>741899235Depends on Berdly's opinion on it.
>>741899113>Mew Mew fight is about finding harmony with your body and mind. You can't resist what your body naturally desires.First of all you are mindbroken by trannies because that is the opposite of a trannySecond of all it is an obvious parallel to Kris and the Soul
>>741899129actually it will be two hyperrealistic children's bloated corpses
>>741899097>Kris can't even bring himself to read asriels letter (the one he read over and over) because he feels that badOr because Kris is a little prick that refuses to let you know practically anything about his brother for whatever reason.>>741899084At least Burgerpants got the chance to crash the fuck out over people trying to deceive him for shit and giggles.
>>741898576The "Vine" is Ralsei. Do you know what a title is?
NOELLE YOU ARE RICHJUST BUY A BOAT
>>741896887>she is cumming during itholy fucking shit
>>741899273>ferris wheel built up since chapter 2>it's just a fucking black screen with dialogue
>>741899273>Ferris wheel doesn't go high enough to see across the lakeDoes Sans know?
>>741899254The sign is like that even in the normal routeIt's just a funny pained mascot expression it's not that deep
>>741899097The code voice could just be Dess in the past. The reason the knight shows up late is because Dess can only materialize at night or some shit.
I dont mind chapter 5 being filler my main problem here is that i wish we could have gotten to know more of kris and asgore backstory.
There's actually no fucking way
>>741899310Kris doesn't even react to it like he did with Spamton. Toby has completely lost his touch or maybe he didn't even touch it considering how insane the Weird Route was.
>>741898813Failing to cross the lake doesn't really abort WR, it's 100% locked in after chapter 4. It aborts Side B which I see as an even weirder offshoot of WR
>>741899385It didn't even fully go up. They said it stopped halfway.
Don't make filler episodes when there are only 3 left and you haven't answered anything yet!!!
>>741899254Oh crap. That one anon from ages ago was right, wasn't he?
>>741899264The rapist becomes the raped
>>741899249>I wonder if doing both will end up impacting each others.there's implications that onion is hearing echoes of noelle drowning in the lake, it's her "song" that onion mentions when you talk during chapter2and further extrapolated that gaster's gooners killed onion to keep it a secretSo it's very likely that toby will make weird route mandatory for the true ending, you have to break the prophecy first by experiencing weird route, which will then unlock new options back on the "intended" route of the game
>>741899356And what, we tell her to proceed to row across the lake? That's not very dramatic.
>>741899412I saw it.
>>741899412It can also say "Family" "Guy" "Funny" "Moments"
>>741899129>'toby won't reward you for snowgrave!!!'>get the sword route and noelle room rape>'toby won't reward you for hurting your childhood friend!!!'>get the most kino scene toby fox has ever madeface it. the weird route is a legit outcome that toby cares about. it's not a cheap bait-and-switch to tell you you're evil for playing video games like undertale fanon slop
>Festival>romance NTR'd by Noelle and Susie>Kris is being left behind>He tries to create a Dark World since that's a "Kris and Susie thing">even recreate part of their first adventure>friendship NTR'd by Flowery>flashforward to the end of the chapter>Susie says they have to introduce Noelle to Dark World and shut Kris outPain.
>>741899273Yea I thought the festival was going to at least unlock a whole extra street... pretty shit.
>>741899415Because he was thinking with his dick (and to be honest, he's just zoned out at this point after everything)
>>741899187do you think Seth has a stamen or a pistil
>>741899356she cant, the narrative doesnt allow it.
>>741899264i know anons keep trying to argue that it isn't some kind of sex allegory, but how the fuck do you read this line and NOT think of something perverted
toby, queers, i dont care about your little "they them" faggotryseth is a girl with boobs and a pussy. and shes chubby. simple as.
So it's pretty obvious that Kris is a girl, right?
>>741899561based
>>741899268then so continues another year of retarded knight theories. so what, is rudy possessed by friend then? is that it?
The real tradgedy is Carol>Mayor of a town that doesn't really exist
>>741899561thussy
>>741897691I'm actually basing my comments off of my real world experience having sex with women, anon. I understand this may be a foreign concept to you.
>>741899546They have a starman and a pistol.
>>741899439>when there are only 3 left>he doesn't know that chapter 7 will be split into four acts
>>741899561very based, anon
>>741899412Fake or there would be a screenshot in every thread. And tons of people screaming on Twitter about it.
>>741899572male coded they/them so a boy
>>741899561girl or guy im gonna beat my dick raw to this nerd
>>741899604may as well ask why Kris is doing anything, no way to tell yet.
>>741899439>Don't make filler episodes when there are only 3 left and you haven't answered anything yet!!!Toby has only 3 fucking plot holes left to answer anon1) where is dess and what her backstory2) who is the knight and what plan is he making that pretty much requires him to kidnnap both asgore and undyne.3) kris backstoryand that it.
>>741899609Hometown didn't really need/have a mayor. She just ran unopposed one day and won. What does she really even do other than manage the town's small businesses and guard the Shelter?
>>741899572ywnbaw, and neither will kris
>>741898509She forgot the eternal bro code. Bros before Hoes. Always a tragedy.
>>741899391that's just cope refusing to let go. you gotta let go.
>>741897912>>*
>>741892556supposedly it gets easier after 6 deaths, and again after 12
So Dess either got "lost" in the Dark World from years ago (which we all expected anyway) or she just peace'd out WR style.
>>741898509The simulation is overwriting her free willI am not joking
>>741899572Kris will be covered in cum either way
>Chapter 5 was so dogshit it made me rethink my life being hyped for this>Sent out job applications after a year of being a hikikimori>Picked up my drawfag hobby again>Reconnected with IRL friends to hang outBravo, Toby.
>>741899561She needs a lithp, would be hot during sex
>>741899572Kris has to be a dude, because there's no way Toby would ever shit on a female character as hard as he did on Kris this chapter.
>>741899664If it were originally a boy, it would go by she/they and you know it.
>>741899772That's more times than I ever died to him, and I sucked total ass at orange soul. So not that bad
The flowers were such a missed oppurtunity
>>741899572it's not even subtle but stupid will be stupid
>>741897628jallerbo, incidentally, also a tranny
>>741899287tenna was just a mid 2010's tumblr shitpost given form
>>741899554>anonsmost people here agreed that ever since ch4 WR it's explicitly meant to be a rape allegory, kris even deflowered noelle before toby had to bend the knee to not offend the twitter/tumblr crowd and backpedal saying "n-n-no people just misconstrued it, it wasn't about rape"at least the one good thing about ch5 is that he brought back what is clearly sexual/mental abuse but he's still tiptoeing around it, like news anchors trying to discuss a story about a serial rapist/murderer but censoring any bad words because hearing "fuck" and "penis" might traumatize the 6-year-old kids who are watching a news story about rape and murder
>>741899821"Susie, I like you now. Go home."
>>741899287to add insult to injury Flowery doesn't have a fraction of the charisma the other signature characters had.I fucking LOVED lancer and jevil, I LOVED queen and Spamton, I LOVED Tenna and the Knight, and I LOVED Gerson as well. I think everyone else did too.In C5 we get Flowery, who isn't terrible but falls very short of how entertaining and iconic queen/lancer/Tenna were... and Mew Mew, a literal catgirl shitpost. It's so fucking ogre.Well, at least now we don't have to [wait] and we can just ignore the game until C6 comes out
>>741899778The Prophecy can't overwrite people.
>>741899792>WR Chapter 5 was so good it made me rethink my love life>I've started to date shy girls with mental issues just to break themBravo, Toby.
>>741899792It doesn't mean shit coming from a complete stranger but good job anon, I hope everything works out for you.
>>741899572Nobody genuinely believes Kris is a girl or they wouldn't act like shipping him with Noelle is straight
>>741899821>Toby would ever shit on a female character as hard as he did on Kris this chapter.Lets not get too hasty Catti has been through the wringer and it's only been getting worse
People who believe Susie is the second hero: how do you explain her using Kris's sword? Especially after events in this chapter.
>>741899864Yellow's suicidal shtick was funny honestly
I'm a little mad that Orange, my favorite color and SOUL from Undertale, turned out to be a little mouse with an inferiority complex. Give me a blatant shonen parody martial artist. Male or female, I don't care.
>>741899792a game dev to surpass Kojima
>>741899925the prophecy HAS to come true, this has been repeatedly confirmed. The only work-around seems to be changing the "targets" since they're mostly vagueposts. There's no reason to think they can't change people's brains.
>>741899821toby is perfectly fine with bullying girls if they interfere with his OTP
>>741900024It was funny for a bit, but it dragged on for way too long. The entire chapter did.
>>741900043It would come out of nowhere.
>>741900019She randomly gained the nerve to use Ribbons. Who knows what else she will suddenly be able to equip.
>"We learned nothing!">Flowers, being neither darkner or lightner, are uniquely powerful in dark worlds>The meta awareness of a video game is actually addressed, and not vaguely hinted at through Ralsei doing his tutorial thing>Asgore knew nothing about Dark Worlds except they existed, and that there is an old, long-lived Dark World he may be pursuing>Asgore is being led on by Carol by promising he can get his old job back for reasons>Dark World rules are governed by imagination>Setting up Noelle being made aware of Dark Worlds for real>Setting up that this could easily go badly thanks to her dad being hospitalised again>"b-but Dess-"Clearly one of the final reveals after main plot shit has been finished, and all we have left is the final Dark World>"b-but the Knight--"See above>"b-but Gaster--"See above>b-but Kris--"See above
haven't seen much Aqua lewdswhere are they? i better not see more off model aged up bullshit
>>741899925It can literally overwrite time and space if the aborted weird route is any indication >Suicide attempt fails>Instantly spawn Kris and Noelle into obligatory lake scene.gml
>even the music is forgettable in this chapterwhat the fuck are you doing nigger
Anons, is that guy right?
>Toriel is just le wholesome sleepy chungus and expresses little remorse>If you say you were locked out she says "Oh you know where the key is" like it excuses her shitty parenting and drunken partying all nightI hate this bitch but I know it's all gonna be handwaved and she's not going to get any comeuppance in the end. While this whole chapter was just Asgore suffering in literally the exact same way as Undertale because he can't have shit.
>>741900138Reminder that Kris is still half-dead and wet after it rewinds and slides him and noelle back to the normal route
>>741900124dishonest retard kys
>>741899273>>741899525you guys are gonna feel silly if The Town Is The Entire World theory comes true and this was intentional. it's not like they couldn't afford the grafics for a fancier ferris wheel sequence.
>>741900024He was cringe as fuck and he was linked inexorably to the tranny flower. The suicide gag was okay, but it comes up like twice in his 20 pages of slop.
anime is real
>>741900212>dishonest retard kysHes not dishonest anonhalf of the stuff he stated in his post were true.
>>741900183>average prophecyfag
>>741899792yeah, i'm still in shock
>>741899572Toby's slipped and called Kris a Him before.
>>741900124Holy shit you just reminded me of the menu thingThat sequence was SO forgettable, even though a ton of effort was put into it.
>>741900129i saw an acqua with an unbelievably fat pussy earlier
>>741900312No he didn't. You're thinking of Frisk.
>>741899925THE WHOLE POINT IS THAT THE PROPHECY IS ABSOLUTE AND THAT YOUR CHOICES DONT MATTER.there's no way you can think that the prophecy has no power after noelle's monolog about effectively viewing her life from behind glass.
God I wish these threads were somewhat stickied I hate waiting til the next thread to post something more than a shitpost when we're on page 9.
>>741899864accurateorange was such a cool idea when it was just the shadow puppets but then the mouse was revealed and my attitude towards it plummetedblue is irredeemableyellow had a good start but the suicide shit dragged on too long and then eventually got consumed by the tranny relationship drama
>>741899925For the past year I compared DELTARUNE's prophecy to Oedipus Rex's prophecy, it never FORCES the character's hand to do something it wouldn't do by its own free will, the prophecy was literally just a prediction of how their free will would play out.>Turns out, if the copium here is correct, the Prophecy is akin to the game's code, and if something doesn't match with the code it gets rewritten to fit, thus Susie's character assassination and complete whiplash from her previous personalityBut it's probably just coping, I can't believe I've been following this game for almost a decade, I feel so stupid.
>>741900147flower man is good, vocaloid shit has always been shit
>>741900340>he doesn't know
>>741900124I've noticed most of the seething is from fake fans who wanted >Their ship>Their self insert fantasy>Fanfic theoryvalidated and refused to engage with the game properNot saying its not without faults, but those faults were present from a long ass while and not exclusive to chapter 5The suselle shit has been going on for awhileThe vagueposting is toby writing 101
Even the egg room felt kind of underwhelming in this chapter.
>>741900217Ah, the old keikaku-hope
>>741900404kek i was hoping someone'd make something like this
>>741900404
>>741900124>>Asgore knew nothing about Dark Worlds except they existed, and that there is an old, long-lived Dark World he may be pursuingTotal headcanon on my part, but I wonder if the Fountain he saw was Hometown's and this whole Dark/Light worlds is naught but recursion.
>>741891472Absolute kino. Unlike most theories this makes al ot of sense
>>741899792>>741900034>Give me a blatant shonen parody martial artist. Male or female, I don't care.Have you heard of Undertale Naranja?
>>741900193>Toriel is just le wholesome sleepy chungus and expresses little remorse>If you say you were locked out she says "Oh you know where the key is" like it excuses her shitty parenting and drunken partying all nightToby's attempt to fix the things he didn't like is so fucking obvious.
>>741900418sounds like it's time for you to enlighten the class, anon
>>741900361Stickied threads are shitposting vortexes, I couldn't even imagine trying to have actual discussions in one (at least on /v/).
>>741900124You're seeing what happens when autism gets WAITpilled while riding the hype-train. Anons here created so many headcannons and expected so many unreasonable things in the months between chapters that when a chapter full of plot implications and foreshadowing came out, they just laser focused on all the things that they didn't see and wasted precious lifespan crying about some gay plants that take up 15 minutes of screen time. It's hilarious and pathetic.
>>741900468Whoops, didn't mean to quote the first person
>>741900404is that dog okay
>>741900335you need to share
>>741900475>Toriel>feeling guiltThat would be character assassination, Anon, and we're saving all of that for Snoozie.
>>741900534no, he fell into a pit of nerve gas
>>741900468Is it done yet?
>>741900475>if you make a false complaint that isn't involved with the partying, she responds to it like it isn't true or related to the partyingyou should've picked the "too loud" option, bro
>>741900395>if something doesn't match with the code it gets rewritten to fit, thus Susie's character assassination and complete whiplash from her previous personalityPlease god let this be the actual explanation
>>741900475Kris does know where the key is though. He didn't tell us because if he did chapter 4 wouldnt happen
you know when your cope is that the character is brainwashed, it's a bad sign
>>741899792Well anon you have 2 choices either you play a sans fangame or you wait for the full ts underswap game to come out.
>>741900651its that or saying "toby is a genuinely shit writer and everything actually meant nothing this entire time"
where does side A/B comes from?
>>741900593NopeBut I'm gonna leave the link just in case anyone interested https://rentry.org/mtt-fangames
>>741900124>Asgore knew nothing about Dark Worlds except they existed, and that there is an old, long-lived Dark World he may be pursuingGo into any thread between Ch 2 and Ch5's release and you'll get at least one person already suggesting this. >>741900124>The meta awareness of a video game is actually addressed, and not vaguely hinted at through Ralsei doing his tutorial thingThis is like Ralsei telling Susie that the Darkners are just objects, WE the player already knew it.
>>741900404ok at least the funnies are on point even if the chapter was shit
>>741898893Cope. Aqua is still a canon human loli.
>>741900779Weird Route ends on "Insert Chapter 7 Side B"
>>741900779cassette tapes and vinyl records
>>741900779weird route is called side_b in the game files
>>741896550Weird route is angst kino and people love drawing yandere and Menhera girls which Noelle becomes on that route. The imagery is also just good in general.
>>741900603I didn't pick "too loud" because the noise level wasn't the big problem, the problem was that none of that shit should be happening in the first place, especially not in a home with a child.
>>741898813The text after failing or aborting really confused me, because for a moment I legit thought that was it and Kris throwing us into the trash was just the continuation of it. But then I realized I probably failed to Proceed even though I could no longer see it on screen.
>>741900523There has to be wrong with that logic. I followed that template and went>Susie changed overnight in the chapter with Mr. Denial? Suspicious>Kris is making a Dark World when Susie is getting distant? Is he jealous?>He tried to copy the Field of Hopes & Dreams too, how desperate>HOLY SHIT ASRIEL/FLOWEY/RUDY IS REAL>Okay seeing Asriel fight with Asriel is pretty funny>Susie is getting distant AGAIN? Is Kris a punching ball?>HOLY SHIT THEY REALLY ARE THE HUMAN SOULS>Cyan behaves and look a lot like child Kris was described to us. How intentional is that? Wasn't there a theory about that...?Etc, etc.The game's purpose was for me to have fun. It achieved that.
>>741900124>Flowers, being neither darkner or lightner, are uniquely powerful in dark worldsThis is an interesting plot thread, but doesn't really illuminate anything beyond explaining something no one previously questioned (besides hinting at some ralsei stuff)>The meta awareness of a video game is actually addressed, and not vaguely hinted at through Ralsei doing his tutorial thingThis was already known by the people that dug through the files, but its nice that it was properly explained in the game>Asgore knew nothing about Dark Worlds except they existed, and that there is an old, long-lived Dark World he may be pursuingSmall thing answered, while leaving the larger question completely unanswered, which is what ACTUALLY HAPPENDED.>Asgore is being led on by Carol by promising he can get his old job back for reasonsAnother thing hinted at previously, and not explained in any real detail>Dark World rules are governed by imaginationYes chapter 3+4 explained that in crystal clear terms anon>Setting up Noelle being made aware of Dark Worlds for real>Setting up that this could easily go badly thanks to her dad being hospitalised againThis is good setup, but there being very little to no payoff for things already setup in this chapter was disappointing, which is what we are saying anon.
>>741900920>Menhera girls which Noelle becomes on that route.The whole "a Noelle doing Noelle things" kinda implies she's already plenty menhera in the normal route, doesn't it?
>"Silly" chapter>No Lancer>No Rouxles>Buncha half-baked OCs that get too much attention>No main plot progression>No character development>Susie character assassination >No ERAM>No FRIEND encounter>Forgettable secret bossThis reeks of Toby giving director control to someone else for this chapter. Genuinely terrible pacing after the Garden
I don't know which route it will happen on, and I know once it finally happens we'll actually feel bad about it, but I can't wait for Kris to break down about how he tried to stop everything.
>>741901070>kinda implies she's already plenty menhera in the normal route, doesn't it?YesAll the people dooming when her weird route dialogue has damning implications of how her normal route romance is gonna goShe will get bored of Susie once she realises nothing is changingShe will still be Noelle
>>741901137>>No main plot progressionThey got the bunker's code anonthat is pretty much plot progression.
>>741901137>No FRIEND encounterThere is one.
>>741897845>noelle joining next chapter>meaning you can finally do the twisted sword>we now know whats that picture in the sans secret room in undertale>we know what the shadow crystal is>we collected all the shadow crystalsthere is probably more but all this is already pretty interesting, people who hated chapter 5 are just a bunch of keks i swear
>>741890948Why? I beat him on my first tryMeanwhile man mew mew was such a ass fight I cheated in a bunch of fav sandwiches, boosted out health/def and still got my ass handed to me by the troon, worst part is that I only had enough pink coins for one item and yes I cheated the mystery key in too
>>741901137>Genuinely terrible pacing after the GardenIt's funny, for me the Garden was boring until you meet Aqua. I thought it was all uphill from there. But once you get to the Castle it's just "Can I please just get to the Asgore scenes, I just want the answers, I don't care about lame and gay Woody."
>>741899538Thought this thumbnail was vincent valentine
>>741901137>No Lancer>No RouxlesHad they shown up again they would have really, really overstayed their welcome and their jokes would have gotten very stale. See Rouxles in Ch.3
>>741901137It's a fake silly chapter.
>>741901243>people who hated chapter 5 are just a bunch of keks i swearits just shippers who self inserted as KrisThe true inferno of jealousy was these fags tears lmao
>>741901316>emo>undead>NTR plotFunnily enough, it would fit both Kris and Vincent
>>741901137This is actually the 2nd chapter in a row Rouxls and Lancer didn't show up.
well im off to play live a live does anyone know any emulation site where i can download the game ?
wtf do people hate so much about yellow, hes just a basic cowboy, how is he supposedly so offensive
>>741901267>I cheatedCasual
>>741901394and didn't care about the ships and I still thought this chapter was lame
>>741901394If you don't feel any empathy for Kris when he looks down in that ending cutscene, there's something wrong with you. You probably also didn't see the issue with Sans in chapter 4.
