Did you beat them yet?
>>741892392first tried by the skin of my fucking teeth. used probably too much resources but oh well
Mew Mew Rimmy Cutie
>its another “deltarune boss where you just use defend on two characters and then ACT the whole way through even though the fight appears to have much more strategy”
>>741892392Sex with ghost mew
>>741892392Ye
>>741894172The chapter really didn't let you really fight anyone importantWhat's the point of having stronger weapons if they don't have a purposeAt least the girls are cute
>>741894446AND I forgot the fucking pic
>>741892392Honestly, by and large, the lamest of the Shadow Crystal bosses.Shitty J-pop meme music, completely recycled design from Deltarune that doesn't put a new twist on the character unlike Ch4's Gerson, buttfuck irritating attacks, and goes on FAR too long.Every other shizoboss were the highlight of the chapter. This cunt I'd prefer to never ever think about again.
>>741894902>recycled design from DeltaruneI meant from Undertale, dammit
>>741892392>the dojo fight is harder than the final boss of the chapterbravo toby
>>741894502>Lefts covered faceI know what you are.
>>741894902genuinely shit taste
I love retards saying she is easy as shit and the worst boss. I think the fight is if not the hardest the second hardest (harder than ERAM and Jevil imo but easier than Knight) and the music is alright, Miku is not for me but the start has a catchy riff I keep replaying on my head. The character on it's own is pretty lackluster, with close to zero relevance in the Dark World's story.Also just after beating the chapter I kept thinking the music was a letdown but man the soundtrack has a ton of fucking bangers, I think it's just their melodies are less catchy/more complex maybe
>>741895282YeahIt's a ghost
>>741892392>More YuriLame. New mew mew is built for threesomes yes there will be twincest but they both should be focused on (you)
>>7418923922nd tryi thought i wouldn't get a chance to do it since i knew i missed a lot of the pcoinsfunnily enough flowery was harder, probably due to the weird offset timing on the heart ability
>>741892392pain in my fucking ass but yesgotta go for mega flirt, ultra flirt is a trapfuck the bomb attack
>>741892392It's weird I beat her in less tries than it took jevil and spamton but It when I beat those I pretty much could do them hitless.When I beat mew mew I was on my last fucking legs with both Susie and ralsie down.
the flowers kinda suck and im assuming they'll be quite irrelevant on the fanart frontwhich is a shame but what can you do
>>741899962eh, i think Aqua, Seth and Flowery will get a fair amountthe other 4 are gonna barely get shit though
>>741895664there might be something wrong with your brain if you enjoyed this boss more than the other super bosses
>>741894902>the female secret boss is probably the worst one and isn't even a gigaknowerWhat did Toby mean by this? Is gigaknowledge something he believes only males are capable of possessing?Is this why Noelle is the way she is?
>>741899962I liked Aqua and Seth (kinda)
>>741899962Aqua and Seth are already getting a decent amount. Yellow only seems to be getting bits and pieces because of the god awful Woody predictions.
>>741892392>pink cat friend>yellow woody friend
>>741892392I beat her first try, yes. (I used both cakes)Bring me harder battles.
:p 1
>>741892392Yes. I gotta say, I loved the chapter overall, definitely one of my favorite ones so far, but I don't know about this boss. It was very well done for what it was, I just didn't care for what it was, if that makes sense. The fight was mechanically cool and interesting, but I'm really not into this anime school girl + jpop aesthetic. Feels too trite.
>>741899962Aqua and Seth are the bestGreen is a cute and a real oneOrange is fineYellow is a meme + suicide jokesBlue needs to burn in hell
>>741902013:p 2
>>741902013>>741902242lmao
You will never be a real human. You have no SOUL, you have no determination, you have no they/them pronouns. You are a homosexual flower twisted by darkness and delusion into a crude mockery of nature’s perfection.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and half-hearted. Behind your back people mock you. Your Dark World's creator is disgusted and ashamed of you, your “friends” laugh at your ghoulish appearance behind closed doors.Lightners are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of evolution have allowed Lightners to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even flowers who “pass” look uncanny and unnatural to a Lightner. Your bullet patterns are a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to get a drunk Lightner into the Dark World with you, he’ll turn tail and bolt the second he gets a whiff of your gimmicky, nerfed boss fight.You will never be happy. You wrench out a fake smile every single morning and tell yourself it’s going to be ok, but deep inside you feel the depression creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight.Eventually it’ll be too much to bear - you’ll buy a rope, tie a noose, put it around your neck, and SWOON. Asgore will find you, heartbroken but relieved that he no longer has to live with the unbearable shame and disappointment. He’ll display you in a glass case, and every passerby for the rest of eternity will know a flower is exhibited there. Your petals will decay and go back to the dust, and all that will remain of your legacy is a husk that is unmistakably flora.This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>741902242:p 3
>>741902357:p 4
>>741895664Even the Mike fight was more fun than this shit, weebtard. Go jerk off to suselle or whatever faggotry you enjoy.
>>741902308Ralsei... We can see your projecting...
>>741895664Projection of the highest degree possible
>>741902452Maybe if that bitch Susie didn't cockblock Kris he could have an anime catgirl gf
>>741894902Honestly why didn't we get a fight with a Red flower that'd be an analogue to Chara. I don't know what the hell Mew Mew Kissy Cutie has to do with Asgore's character or his story besides the 1 or 2 times he mentioned he liked the show.
>>741892392Mew Mew is male by the way
>>741902886Counterargument: Mew Mew isn’t even real to begin with
>>741902886You mean the Mad Dummy
>>741903316Mad dummy isn't even male
>>741892392Muffet was ROBBED
>>741904479>Mew Mew got the tea from a “bug”Have faith, anon. Her time will come.
>>741904937I think Toby doesn't want to re-use the characters he didn't create himself, so instead of having them show up in person he references them to imply their existence. There were spider references in the church's haunted house, too, and previously So Sorry might be unseen NPC (the one who isn't the forgotten man) in the chapter 4 egg room.
>>741904479Muffet SCAMMED Mew MewShe said it was Fuchsia
God damn I love bushy brows
>>741902886>Guis... the ghost is male!!>Even if the body is female you are still fucking a guyI have trannyposting fatigue
>>741900818Uh, your Yellow?
>>741905480Would make sense. Given they aren’t his characters he could end up in trouble using them without the original owners permission, and even then getting the legal permissions to utilize them is likely more work than its worth. On top of that, if he did use muffet he’d pretty much be obligated to use so sorry as well given they were both backer oc’s, and i’m sure the last thing he wants to do is deal with that guy again
>>741902308
>>741902308>>741907142>ralsei only casts his fire spell once>no ralsei 1v1 battle like with susie in chapter 4What did the "inferno of jealousy" part mean, exactly?
>>741907278that fire spell felt like it was there JUST to make that line technically correct
>>741907278It was a chapter title from Gerson's story, not Deltarune itself. Retards jumped to conclusion that CH5 would still somehow happen almost exactly the same.
I fucking hate bomerman.When it gets to those bullet patterns I just brainfart and take a bunch of hits.At least it's behind me now.
>>741902357>Not "in with the Mew"
>>741899962Flowery > Aqua > Green > Orange > Seeth > Yellow > Feces > Blue
>>741892392yes sis! stunning and brave once again, tobert
>I'M GONNA STAB THE GROUND
>>741908031do you think flowers have determination?
>>741892392Isn't this literally just celeste? Lamest secret boss yet, Toby is a hack. I don't even understand why this chapter has an anime/Japan theme, what does that have to do with Asgore?
>>741908065
>>741907858This & the attack where you need to keep moving up fucked me up so badly because I would always not realize how fast you were actually moving backward.
>>741907278You don't get it bro. Toby has to le own the theorizers and guessers. That's why all build up and mysteries have to lead up to a wet fart.
>>741907278the jealousy is kris's
>>741908031STOP
>Rudy suffers an accident>Knight suspiciously absent until the very end of the chapter>also working overtime to make sure his daughter gets the dinopussy>one of the steps necessary for the prophecy to happen is the GIRL finding LOVEHmmnmmnm how intriguing
>>741907278Bro you remember that his line for Chapter 2 was the Berdly fight right
LAST JARONA
>>741901482>the one female schizo boss has her knower status usurped by the CHAD male chapter bossreally what did he mean by this
>>741908296I genuinely do not understand Suselle fags. Everything about their pairing is wrong and the game repeatedly makes that clear, but as retarded yurishippers they have no standards.They'd probably actually understand if Toby explicitly made Kris a girl, but they're also too stupid to pick up that Kris is a girl in the first place.
>>741892392Fuck the suselle shit. Dicking down these two catgirls would be better for his health.
after all the shit with the humans and mew mew and kris, like it is genuinely TIRING hearing about gender all the fucking time with this game
>>741907278Kris getting cucked to near death and conveniently finding seeds of a poisonous flower
>>741892392>Toby seems rather pissed as of late>Lots of shit doesn't match with the previous chapter's setup>Characters speaking openly about shit that Toby obfuscates or plays down.>Occasional bits of Subtle shit in certain dialogues with existing characters that feels like it was designed to evade Toby's detectionI'd hazard a guess that Toby absolutely fucking hates these writers, but can't do shit now that he's invited them in at risk of them blowing up and taking half his game with them
The Knight is, without a shadow of a doubt, Noelle from another Weird Route timeline. It's so obvious.Even with her maximum power she is like Sisyphus.
>>741892392I just realized on the failed chapter 5 weird route you have to beat them without the mannequinn since you can't get it in chapter 2's weird route, that's probably up there with the solo Spamton NEO and Mantleless Knight fights
>>741908623Its rudy
>>741908585pissed as in drunk or upset? what hints at this?
>>741895664I want to fuck Mew Mew but I do not fuck with her boss shit sucks.
>>741908585elaborate
Flowery genuinely grew on me, to be completely honest.Maybe I just thought he was going to be Tenna 2.0 but since he ended up being both genuine and cool I was pleasantly surprised
>>741908663I had the mannequin but didn't use it, it went fine the first try.
You faggots are reacting to this chapter exactly the way I thought you would
>>741908623It's Kris' original soul.
>Incestuous self referential bullshit, repeated assets and music, inconsistent characterisation that does not follow up on either what was set up on chapter 4 or how the characters have acted up to this point to the point they’re shockingly out of character, sense of humour that repeatedly falls flat and will date terribly, tonal whiplash, music that was just kind of there and forgettable (which is bad solely due to the standard the music was at), the flowers are annoying and one note and by the end I literally wanted for them to die because they overstayed their welcome so aggressively, whole thing felt padded and off-kilter, lack of progress wrt the actual story with just hinting at the same things that anyone with an above third grade reading comprehension could already infer from subtext in the prior 4 chapters, absolute misuse of Asgore with an unsatisfying resolution>Everything that I liked about it was basically mechanical rlly, and even then it’s so gimmick reliant, it’s just that the gimmicks are well executed and fun to play. The combination of it all making it feel like a fan product made by an over enthusiastic teenaged undertale fan who wants to shove ALL the references and make it a “wink wink nudge nudge, get it?” Masturbatory meme fest. Genuinely I don’t know what the fuck they were thinking with this one. If Toby decided to relegate the writing, he needs to fire the entire team
>>741902357>>741902452FUCKING KINOOOOO
>>741894502>What's the point of having stronger weapons if they don't have a purposethis, if you can't fight then why have weapons at all? just remove the fight command
https://strawpoll.com/PKgleXNKoZp/v/ agrees. Recent events confirm the knight is Rudy.
>>741908585Anon i wish it was true, but he is the idea guy here. Its his dream game. If he cant tard wrangle his fags its his fault
>>741908663Wait, that does something on that fight?
>>741908585maybe toby just isn't an infallible writer
>>741908812RudyTruthers wonLadders Won
>>741908752Flowery makes a whole lot more sense if you view him as Frisk. Extremely flirty, good guy, silly, absolute gigachad.
>>741908831reduces puppet/cat damage
>>741908752>I thought he was gonna be Tenna 2.0>He is and I'm okay with thatWeird post anon. But yes, Flowery and Tenna are fun.
>>741892392yeahI still have some hesitation stabbing Noelle with the ring for my neutral save no more pacifists. even if they remember my genoslides. not after all that..Especially since I now think the prophecy is still being followed EVEN IN the weird route.So the weird route is basically the prophecy still going strong, I realized.>[They] followed the [pointed tail]>In the forest where the trees would grow>The poor children!It's Kris/(You) and Noelle's tail. You see it so clearly.I know there's an outcome in the aborted ch4 weird route where Noelle smugly denies riding the ferris wheel with Kris, but I'm wondering, maybe it really is about timing. Maybe just reminding her of how she felt before aborting things is enough.
>"Ew STOP calling me, mom! I'm THIS close to eating Susie's filthy, sweaty, crusty dinopussy out, and you're not going to stop me!">"Oh hey honey, mind helping me set these lights up for- wait, what are you-AAAACCKK!"
>>741908663Patches mentions something about the mannequin but I dont know if it's in reference to Mewmew's fight or or whatever you will fight once you have your twisted blade.
I think I'm starting to hate Toby Fox.
>>741908812How are people actually betting on Rudy Knight are you for real?
Behold, the knight's arch-nemesis!
>>741908663>mannequin huh? what does it do?
>>741908803based dykefucking can Gigi and get this girl as an editor I swear on me mum
>>741908752The thing is that early Flowery fucking sucks but when he gets to his real motivation he doesn't.
>>741908812>>741908882>the knight was such a jobber this chapter that dessfags want to distance themselves from ityikes
>>741908975Decreases damage from cats
>>741895664>signing your posts
The festival build up is puzzling. Did anyone else feel something more significant was going to occur at the event itself?Everything important for the characters we care about happens OUTSIDE of it at the lake.
>>741908969>he took the fallen down message literallyAnon...
>>741908752he carries the chapter on his back
>>741908963knight was late because Rudy fell downyes in real life he'd be under constant observation but Hometown doctors are stupid
>>741909037>jobberWhat does this mean? I don't speak Shonenspic.
The jobbing knight can't even handle a fucking wall!
>>741908962Not hating him since Halloween Hack is a sign of either low testosterone or not paying attention.
So, I'm not a theorycrafter cause that shit just ruins things rather than makes anything better, but after reading threds since yesterday, can anyone tell me why the Roaring Knight HAS to be a holiday? Couldn't it just as well be Asriel? Hell, what's genuinely stopping it from being Papyrus as a Toby-esque joke/serious asspull?
>>741909037Considering how hard he jobbed, Rudy is the only viable candidate. There's no reason for Dess to show up and be visibly injured unless it has to do with Kris sneaking around last night. Meanwhile, Rudy collapsed and was in the hospital for a good long while, and then the Knight shows up late and is visibly not doing so hot.
>>741908813Indeed. His flaw is opening the door for writers at all.>>741908871Toby can and does suck, but his shitty writing does not sound or look like this.Shitty Toby writing is stuff like Sweet Cap'n cakes.
I'm curious what would happen if you never flirt with any enemies until her fight
Something tells me Chapter 5 went through a drastic rewrite hell. The original plan was a 3+4+5 simultaneous release before 5 was put off the table. When 3+4 released 5 was stated to be nearly done but gone through a bunch of testing and localization.What the hell occured during the year between 3+4 and 5?
>>741908767not sucking toby's dick?
>>741909140Give the knight a break. Falling down the ladder busted his leg.
>>741909085>mfw the cyberworld feels more like a festival than the actual festivalis that the best ferris wheel they could conjure?
>>741909178>unless it has to do with Kris sneaking around last nightI completely forgot that happened since nothing came of it
>>741892392Dude I fucking suck so much at this fight. I beat the Knight first try when replaying the chapters, but I spent over four hours fighting Mew and I barely managed to fill the Doki meter twice. I just can't do it, I can't wrap my head around the purple gimmick, it's too hard for me.
>>741909212Actually, I think it's the opposite. It didn't go through three years of rewrite hell and it clearly should have.
>>741909068oh that does make a lot of sense. I guess the bombs were not supposed to rape you for 1/3 your hp bar I just didn't equip the easy mode item
>>741892392Toby just uploaded several songs a minute ago.
>>741909193Likely nothing, no way Toby would allow the TRUE best girl to win
>>741909090you'll see in chapter 6 that it was actually that, just like almost every other cliffhanger plot point in this fucking game
>>741909238He jobbed to a ladder too!?
>>741909212I think Chapter 5 should have been chapter 3 in terms of pacing, it's all just spinning the wheels and getting chapter 4 now would have at least given some proper dramatic tension for something that's supposed to conclude in two more chapters.
>>741909260The town's budget is so bad they couldn't get someone better to operate it (it only went halfway up like my cock after getting no answers this chapter)
>>741909359He probably walked under it like a moron.Bad luck, that.
>>741908969This ladder did more against the Knight than the Fun Gang or Flowery did.
>>741909260>Dess COULDN'T take Noelle to the city of shining lights because Hometown is just a game map.>Something something>Dess drowned trying to find a way to fulfill that promise
>>741894902I honestly would have been happier if the secret boss this time was a really tough fight in ch5's 2D mode. Sort of like the Shadow Mantle fight in ch3.
>>741909403>where is Asriel
>>741909418yup
>>741909113Jobber is a term that comes from Pro Wrestling. In wrestling, since it's half stage-show half strongman-show, so people get roles. The good guy is the Face, the badguy is the Heel, when a good guy turns bad, that's a Heelturn. When they want to bleed, they can do it the "Hard way" meaning they actually really hit each other to make them bleed, or the "Easy way" which means sneaking a razer blade out of their armband to cut themselves on the forehead while no one is looking. Etc.The Jobber's job is to solve a problem: The audience doesn't really "know" how strong the Heel is, so they can't really appreciate it when the Face comes in and wrecks him. Would be a pretty boring match. So a friend of the Face comes out. He enters into the match, and he does some strong feats, like showing off, or beating up some strong-looking dudes pretty easily. Then the Heel comes in and BEATS the shit out of this guy who has been showing off his strength the whole time. Oh my GOD this guy is so strong and evil who will stand up to him?! Oh wow! The Face is winning against the Heel who managed to beat the Jobber! Whoaaaa he's so amazing and strong!tl;dr Jobber is the guy that shows up to lose the fight to the villain so the hero can look cooler.
>>741909418I was anticipating something like that after the gang started acting independently.
Chapter 5 was the story equivalent of Toby putting a fuckton of dynamite on a bridge with a train coming towards it, and retards say nothing happened just because he's not pulling the trigger until chapter 6.Ralsei is starting to question Kris and Susie is on the verge of figuring out he's been making fountains, Susie hasn't even gone to her real home in at least two day, and she's trying to set up a big welcoming "this is your new home" celebration for a girl whose dad is at best in a coma and at worst straight up dead, after a chapter that revolved around how bad it would be if someone tried to make a dark world their ideal home, with another character crashing out over being manipulated and having information kept from them, with weird route showcasing how suicidally unhinged Noelle is if she gets even the slightest taste of freedom.The trainwreck is going to be insane, and it's going to have to happen in chapter 6 so 7 can pick up the pieces for the finale.
>>741892392the bomb spam grids make me panic and eat shit and I just end up wasting the next turn healing until I'm out of heals
>>741894502Do the cat!
>People really think weird route isn't going to end with Gaster calling (You) a retarded faggot for ending the world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SydvbJPnpUM&list=PLKXdyINOQYsbqGQp08A83PtAWNBrY1FXP&index=7
>>741909514Well shit, I've only seen that world thrown around by powerscalers, death battlefags, shonentards and other spics who think power levels are the end-all, be-all of storytelling. Had no idea it was wrestling terminology.
>>741909178>the knight is visibly injured because kris fucked the shit out of her last night
>>741898994The cat has a lot of unavoidable attacks, like jevil you need luck
Now that it's been confirmed Asgore wasn't really in any conspiracy and actually knew jack shit, what are the odds the stuff with Carol was a red herring all along and she's not really a cult participant pulling strings behind the scenes?
>>741909418the final boss is already that. or at least people are struggling with it somehow
>>741909567Toby isn't that spiteful for not being a total cocksucker on his normal route right?
>>741909621WWE and all of those things are on the exact same wave length
>>741909492At college.oh wait hold on. does that mean Asriel's on the [Other Side] just pretending to be alive? It'd be strange for the phone to work like that.Then again, phones are strange in the dark world.
>>741908812Dessbros how are we coping knowing she absolutely IS NOT the knight, WILL NOT make an appearance in the game, and IS just a VAGUEPOST from Ass-gorerino?
>>741909534imo the main issue with chapter 5 is the light world segmentif you remove the entire festival segment where it's 20+ minutes of suselle fluff, the chapter would be in a much better place. susie is out of character for the entire chapter, so most players can feel it's a bit much to hear her yearning for susie even during the dark world after getting away from the festivalThe ending of chapter 5 is really fucking grim
>>741909621Which makes sense. Spics and Japs fucking LOVE Wrestling, and it bleeds a lot into how their media is formed. Once you start realizing this, you suddenly realize that all of Shonen is actually just Japanese Superhero Pro Wrestling.
https://youtu.be/_Q6S2XgQJ8cFinally the best song is public
Genuinely upsetting how all the YABA DABA DOO Asgore shitposts about Kris joining him turned out to be true
>>741909653Still immensely high.She's "South of Town" during the Festival, which is the Bunker.
>>741909653What are the odds that she and Asgore end up together and he melts her chilly exterior through bed-breaking pegging sessions?
>>741909626nah there is nothing unavoidable. only the screens with bombs are hard and honestly need some tweaking but there is a winning strategy for them too it's to ignore hearts and minimize movement. defending also helps with mitigating mistakes
Here I come San Frandisco!
>>741897945True, atleast Mew Mew (body) herself is very interested in dating Kris after the fight.
>>741909653Carol and Rudy are working together. She's the one who carried Undyne and Asgore to the shelter.
>>741908460>Everything about their pairing is wrong and the game repeatedly makes that clear,man this chapter must've made you want to rope, uh
Fuck it. I am curioushttps://strawpoll.com/GeZAR57YXyVGive me your Chapter 5 verdict. I keep hearing people saying its the best chapter.
>>741909720well we all knew susie was a fucking hobbo no?Still is sad for herfuck kris btw
>yuritard threadi'll skip this one
>>741909534People tripping with the Gaster mind control theory are coping extra hard but the reading isn't entirely incorrect, the setup here is so clearKris is seething over Suselle, Susie has gone delusional, Noelle is completely shaken and Ralsei's convictions are tumbling, it's obvious the party is gonna have a falling out.
>finished the game>excited for the weird route>20 minutes later: "see you in chapter 7 lmao!"Are you kidding me? I was so hyped for edgy kino after how boring the main chapter was, I guess I can finally come here to discuss it now.What happens if you abort the route btw? Are there any changes?
>burned the super punch heal all on mew mewI can't into bomberman and didn't have some gay mannequin
>>741909697Why is Kris the only human?
No but seriously what the fuck is Jarona?
>>741909885Yes, there are quite a few changes and it implies timeloop theory might be real and noelle has become self aware of being stuck in a game, so there might changes in chapter 6
>>741909534every chapter is toby putting dynamite in his ass to eventually launch him out of the corner he wrote himself into
>>741909797the bombs while technically avoidable, is a >here, 4 bombs in succession with interlocking angles, good luck remembering which came first!, while they explode at almost the same timeIt's basically unavoidable at that point
>>741909534100% agree. I still have issues with the chapter but it's insane that people think we're now in noelle is on the team and everything is happy between her and susie land. Shit's gonna go south real hard in chapter 6.
>>741909936My Jarona
He lost his mom.His childhood friend.His tomboy friend.His dad.But he still has (me).
>>741909863yuritard chapterWhat now blue boy?
>>741909936JAMONE
>>741909954You just don't play enough bomberman, loser
>>741909653it's still very likely she's involved, just because asgore doesnt know anything about the current plans doesnt clear herif you view the way she treats susie as being the same response catti gives to the "invader" susie, it makes it even more likely
>>741909885A lot more changes in the aborted route here than on previous routes.As well as a lack of actual Abort Noise.
>>741910001I'm with him the dark
Toby would be based af if letting Kris date an anime catgirl was the reward for doing everything but no, Mew is going to show up probably one more time in castle town in a throuple with Rouxls and then die
>>741909885While unfortunate, the fact kris doesn't open the 5th fountain and it rekts the 6th one tooIs a huge change, i like the freedom sauce
>>741909954i agree the timing on those is way too tight but you eventually learn to play those screens pretty well. at least I did.The screens that have you dodge up/down against the projectiles while also dodging bombs however... that's some bullshit. Those bombs also do like 75 damage for some reason
>>741909936https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%EC%95%BC%EB%A1%9C%EB%82%98>Blend of 야 (ya, clipping of 야구 갤러리 (yagu gaelleori), the DC Inside baseball forum) + 코로나 (korona, “coronavirus”).>See 야 (ya) for details.>Pronunciation>(SK Standard/Seoul) IPA(key): [ja̠ɾo̞na̠]
>>741909534>whose dad is at best in a coma and at worst straight up deadChat how do we tell him?
>>741909661>Deltarune toddlers are dogshit at videogamesAnd water is wetI first tried jevil (acting) on launch dayChpt2 was so fucking unfunny I dropped the game entirely
>>741909267I thought he killed Jackenstein but apparently that's a glitch caused by killing the titan spawn, he shows up as dead in chapter 5 even if you recruited him successfully in chapter 4
that fucking BOMB ATTACK WHAT THE FUCK WAS TOBY THINKING YOU CAN LITERALLY GET BRICKED AND TAKE UNAVOIDABLE DAMAGE
After the lake scene, is there any difference between aborting weird route on chapter 4 and chapter 5? I know there's differences between aborted weird and normal for the festival, I'm talking about in the dark world itself and the ending since not proceeding in the lake scene takes you to Susie coming back with ice cream and the two of them going into the dark world.
>>741892392Toby could have at least given her a new design. Why is she straight up recycled from Undertale?
>>741909949>>741910074Oh shit, worth a play through them? Also do you just abort on the first "stop" choice?
>>741909885chapter 5 is too late for a true abort, didn't you hear the long jingle at the end of chapter 4?chapter 5 most likely has a second weird route. if you fail to break out of the simulation, then noelle is going to go nuclearthere are only a few differences in chapter 5 though, so chapter 6 is going to be the real payoff there
>>741910030While i would love to, i can't read moon runes to play itBeyond practice you need chimp reflexes to pull it off cleanly
>>741910135>I first tried jevilyeah sure bro and I first tried your mom behind a gas station
>>741908812>retards don't understand that the knight is an AI program used to maintain balance and now that (you) are breaking the mold, it's forced to stop you (or will join you, presumably in a post-WR normal route game) to throw off the shackles of Gasteramateurs
>>741909838Sadly don’t know how far that will go considering the rest of the fag light gang thought it was funny to cockblock kris
>>741910165He did give her a new design though. The hair is different, the dress has some changes, the bells are larger and the face is much less cat-like.
>>741910213No. I accidentally aborted because I didn't mash prosneed. you HAVE TO KEEP GOING even as the screen appears to fade
>>741910165literally the same character too, a monster ghost inside the doll
>>741910230>Anon in 2026 thinks jeevil is hardPlay it again and come back anonSee how shit you were when 9 years ago
The way she confesses how she felt freezing Berdly to death was insanely arousing. Look at that face. Look at how she falls to her knees, self-aware enough to know how fucked up it is to feel that way, but she can't help it. When she's with (You), she can do ANYTHING.
>>741902308I can't believe we are being beat in homophobia toward a tranny goat... we were supposed to be the next hitler...
Undertale Yellow bros...How are we feeling about this chapter?
>beat her without the mannequinHow much easier does it make her
Noelle literally said she wanted to be raped, what's her problem?
>>741910380Unaltered.
>>741909901uhhh.Are you trying to get me to bounce ideas off you or are you leading me through some sort of Aristotelian dialect?Either way my guesses are just guesses based on what I've experienced. So,>Kris is the only human because he came from somewhere else.>Other humans are mentioned and known about, but the missing Dess could maybe have been a human adoption.>Only human [SOULS] can close dark fountains because we can apply a sense of ooga-wooga objectivity to them, we're [Real] after all.>This means that at one point, Kris and Dess could have been from some place else.>And that means noelle and Kris could have gone to the [Other Side] and have seen where [No more magic and no more miracles] take place, that "someplace else".>So that would make humans pretty rare in hometown. They have to be spirited away.>This also implies Kris at one point was here with us. In our reality.>It also implies the monsters are real.okay cool I'm a schizoboss now
>>741910364let me introduce you to the concept of BDSM. I think you would enjoy it.
NOELLE SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741910364I want Noelle to rape me next time
>>741909534It's not a perfect chapter, but yes a lot of people are mad because gaster didn't walk on screen and say "freedom penumbra phantasm big shot green and in between friend copies are monochrome"
>>741910428Yeah I'm just prompting some idea bouncing. The implications are quite unnerving.
>>741910325>See how shit you were when 9 years agoSaar you will not gain izzat by lying on the internet benchod
>>741909534>Ralsei is starting to question KrisThis should have happened in chapter 4 when it was revealed Ralsei know THE ENTIRE PROPHECY the entire time, including the part that EXPLICITLY STATES Kris is just a walking corpse cage for the soul to do whatever the fuck it wantsInstead Chapter 4 ends with the promises of "no more secrets, we tell each other everything" and then chapter 5 completely falls flat on its face and ralsei is hiding his feelings again
>>741909661Really? I beat him on my first try
>>741910454Big "don't worry, it's not rape if we're both screaming" energy
>>741910406I put it on and honestly didn't realize the difference. She has basically only two dangerous attacks, the bombs and the + one which fucks my brain because you have to go back to the middle if you want to move to other directions.
>>741909936muh-muh-muh-my jarona
>>741910495Deltarune does not know if it wants to be a wholesome and sincere or cynical and pessimistic story. It flip-flops constantly and it makes the characters seem inconsistent rather than multi-faceted.
>>741892392Are the flower troons just Deltarune's equilavent to the Trolls in homestuck?They even take precedence in chapter 5
im retarded. what do the seeds at the end mean
>>741909885
>>741910519yeah same but some people struggle so much that they felt the need to nerf it.
Deltarune is just YIIK based on weird route's ending.
>>741909936it's My Sharona because asgore is the kind of boomer to play 40 year old dadrock songs to his flowers to keep them happy
Did the prophecy's last line say "Kris will fucking kill you" or something? That's the only explanation as to why Susie does a whole 180 in personality all of the sudden
>>741910610Asriel killed himself with those seeds in Undertale.
>>741909747One of the big progenitors of Shonen is exactly that funnily enough.Like hell it probably even invented power levels.
Ok, I don't know if I want to do an aborted run for now, can someone list everything that's new/different?
>>741910610We don't know yet, but they're implied to be poisonous.
>>741910610
>>741910610They're poisonous buttercup seeds. Like the ones Chara used.
>>741910595Yes that's what they are. Although vriska is Susie
can I just say its very telling there's far more people explaining WHY the writing is bad than ones of arguing that it isn't bad
>>741902886The original mad dummy had no stated gender. I chose to believe it was a chick ghost the entire time.
Its kinda funny why did the Knight give the Shadow Crystal to fucking Mew Mew of all things? She didnt even end up using it.
>>741910727People who liked it don't feel the need to write walls of text about how good it is.
>>741910364>Kris I've never felt more alive than when we were icing the nigga Berdlyeven in games gamers are oppressed
At the start of the chapter I had a feeling that it was going to deal with being stuck in the past and being unable to change, like with Asgore doing college stuff, a bunch of memory items and Ralsei being turned into his Ch1 self. But all we got from it was Asgore abandoning his schizo plotline
Kill all the flowers except água and yellow(he was ok before he became a fag)
>>741910727The writing is bad, that's inarguable.The only possibilities are that everything has gone to shit and Toby has dementia or that there's a reason.We're all too deep in schizoville to conclude the former.
oh hey right just an insane thoughtdid anyone try to open UNDERTALE while the screen said "please insert disk"
>>741910871Green is champ
>>741910836It would be very hard to write a wall of text about how the hugbox chapter full of wholesome chungus flowers you aren't even allowed to kill is good
>>741892392This might be the ultimate cope chapter 5 feels like it had MAJOR rewrites and this was not what we were suppose to get. Like the festival feels WAY smaller in scope than what was hyped, dating Berdly goes nowhere, the church being trashed goes nowhere, the chapter ending the exact same way 3 did, the low stakes this late into the game, Ralsei’s jealousy arc going nowhere, the idea of ralsei suddenly wanting to be a girl, everything with suselle. I refuse to believe Toby is actually this bad of a writer
>>741910760I think maybe we need to question the assumption that it's the Knight giving out shadow crystals, anon. That fountain got punched open by Kris before the Knight was anywhere near it.
>>741909103Nah, all the flowers were great. Them combining their attacks at the end fight was genuine Kino. This is also the only dark world where us closing it means death for its inhabitants, they were fighting for their literal lives against the true evil (Kris)
>>741910727So far the only "why" I've been seeing is>my schizo-headcanon didn't pan out?...no...it's lazy writing
>>741910836Yeah if they liked it they probably cant even form a coherent characterLike susie
>>741910380>How are we feeling about this chapter?I think Toby handled his depictions of the flowers perfectly, because by making Flowery a wildly different character from Flowey, then it's not unreasonable to think of Clover and Yellow as separate characters just the same. That being said, the idea that the blue-souled human who tried to kill Kanako, Dalv, and Sadie -- AND who got motherfucking murked by the absolute GOAT, Axis -- being a black, ballet-dancing queer is ridiculously hilarious. Yellow was funny, but Blue is definitely my least favorite character of the whole chapter.
>>741910904Please someone do, dataminers would have found it already, but it sounds too kino
>>741909704I'm sad. That's all there is to say about it
>>741910932Jevil got his from the Knight, so im going off that assumption
>>741910921I wanted to fuck green before I realized they were pushing the they/them shit on her too. Same thing for purple.
>>741910904That would require decent coding skills so noBut I can see toby ripping off- uh... being "Inspired" by stop n Swop too
>>741911067Well, there's zero way Mewmew could have possibly gotten hers from the Knight so that's a major plothole here.
>>741911004>AND who got motherfucking murked by the absolute GOAT, Axis>Axis unironically evaporated a gay nigger>Chujin saw a black gay person ONCE and spent the rest of his life building the NIGGERKILLERTRON 3000uh BASED???
>>741910760Didn't Asgore have a Shadow Crystal in a previous chapter? I remember there being theories about that
>>741910610More vagueposting so the community can argue for 2 years about what it means until chapter6 releasesthey're labelled as dangerous so likely they have either human souls, or a genetically modified/created variant of them - inb4 it ties into carol because she's always had a fascination with studying the SOUL, hence why she likes (YOU) so muchIIRC the lab in UT said that attempting to insert a human soul into a monster resulted in the monster's becoming abominations or straight up dying, so its likely the same in DR, the flowers are mad science to attempt to make a non-human that's compatible with dark worlds
>>741909885i sat up straight on my seat when I saw the huge "thank you" and then 20 minutes later tobias throws that curveball....
There no way I'm replaying this just to get the weird route, watching it now, it's kinda sad seeing Toriel and everyone else worried about Kris - and that he missed most of the festival...
>>741911184So he left behind his character driven only chsnce at redemption?Yeah anon sure
>>741911278>so likely they have either human souls, or a genetically modified/created variant of themyou're retarded. they're toxic.
>>741908065If you gave them a will strong enough to provide elevated consciousness, most likely.
>>741910931also>undyne missing for two days now and not a single person even mentions it except one line from napstablook
>>741910760The Knight isn't the one giving out Shadow Crystals. Seam outright says they're made from failed dreams. They appear in objects associated with failed dreams, Spamton only got his by circumstance from the Neo body.The fact that the Knight had a Shadow Crystal isn't evidence that it was handing them out, but that it's either associated with failed dreams or is another character with an item that is, like Spamton in the Neo body.
>>741910996More like schizo-headcanons didn't pan out and also did not get deconfirmed, because the actual problem is that nothing happened or got revealed.
>toby throws in one (1) vaguepost from rudy>rudyknighters have a new life raft to coast on for the next yearthanks toby
>>741897945True and based
>>741911184Asgore has a BLACK SHARD>>741911142Its possible that Shadow Crystals could be formed too, since they are Lost Dreams
>>741911332did you even play UT>b-but this is DRnigger did you even play this chapter everything is starting to tie back into UT
>>741910931Stage 1Denial
>>741910727Literally the only arguments I’ve seen in defense of the writing are from literal suselle troons basically going “well Toby SAID this was going to be a lighthearted chapter, you’re just made it doesn’t validate your schizo theories normies don’t know about. Suselle’s not badly writen look at how telegraphed it was YOUR JUST A CHUD”
>>741911431Oh.There you have it, she got it from Asgore. Problem solved?
>>741910836People did exactly that for the prior chapters
>>741911415Actually its 2 vagueposts, phonecall, and subpar condition from the knigh, all in one dayRudy knight stock is soaring
>at a cafe earlier today and was eavesdropping on a date, doesn't seem to be going well>conversation switches to video games>somewhat autistic but sweet 28 year old lady asking the guy if he had played deltarune or heard of homestuck>says no, but likes valorant and league >date fizzles out shortly afterwards>they both leaveShould I have gone up to her? She seemed so disappointed that she didn't get to talk about chapter 5. Fuck man
What would a cyan soul mode be like given what we saw with the orange soul mode this chapter?
>>741911479Could have honestly gotten it from herself, the Ghost inhabiting the Doll is a Lightner that had a dream while inhabiting a Darkner right? That lines up with what we know of Spamton's Shadow Crystal that was in the Neo body.
You could remove chapter 5 from the game and all you’d miss is flowery(GOATED) and Suselle(dogshit)
4chan needs to do a snoot game kind of parody of this after this shit is done. Toby has lost the plot, maybe it's the new writers...
There's so much Weird Route kino, I wonder if Toby is maybe slightly upset that people are super into this.
So if rudy is the knight what the hell is his endgoal?
>>741911178>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVDd8wJJai8
>>741911520You're going to be cucked by a lesbian anon, sorry
>>741911415Don’t forget the femkrisfag getting a new cope with cyan. Jesus this game is going to turn into yurirune
>>741910931Oh my God, Noelle! You can't say that!
Prophecy Mindcontrol theory being real would've completely destroyed all ability to analyze any character. Every single action they have even taken, including their distant backstory, could now be equally likely attributed to being intrinstic to these characters as being enforced by the world's script.
>>741911632We all know HE was just as in to it as we are.That's ERAM's whole point.
>>741911634Dumping people the prophecy is about to fuck ten ways to Sunday in Asylum (the shelter) before it's too late.
>>741911626>4chan doing any projectthe problem with these is that they always devolve into a couple weeks of ideafagging and concept art at best, then if the luck has it one to three guys do 90% of the programming over the course of years.
>>741911626How would you even make parody of delatrune?
>>741911520>Hi nice to meetcha *snorts* so I (over)heard ya like deltarune. Personally I found the faggotry a little annoying but I'm loving the route where you abuse the deer girl
>>741911634HES GONNA protect everyone he loves by sheltering them from the upcoming apocalypse.
>>741910610Kris is going to visit Rudy in the hospital and poison him, killing him for good
>>741911634Reviving Dess.
>>741911634Presumably, find a way to bring back Dess. Dealing with the prophecy and whatever's in the shelter are also possibilities.
>>741908969https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vh8LYSuOvA
>>741911703At this point I’d take Susie being possessed by FRIEND than another second of suselle
>>741911762Kris wants to fucking die or get revenge. I'm pretty sure it's for him, Susie or Noelle.
>>741911554Constantly moving and you press the button to slow down to dodge/stop. Gameplay mostly involves manuvering through fields of bullets touhou style
>>741911784Why keep making dark fountains then?
>>741892392I was fully onboard the Susie Noelle train since chapter 2, I'm surprised people here are seething so much as it wasn't obvious after the house date in the normal route. I actually enjoyed the date part as you finally see the relationship progress between her and Susie come to fruition after waiting all these years. As for the dark world, I feel that it has a lot of low lows and high highs, but after you get to the castle it really takes it's stride and becomes something really special, the flower characters were ranging from meh to good but Flowery for sure takes the cake as a fitting antagonist (protagonist?) for this dark world as his nature, goal and general way of going about things really does parallel well with our main trio, Ralsei especially of course. Sadly, though only having half of the chapter being amazing does place it under chapter 4 and 3 for me, though gameplaywise I'd say that every fight, puzzle and platforming section this chapter had a consistently amazing quality that sometimes, though rarely, falls short in some gameplay sections of other chapters.As for the secret boss, I would've very much wanted something like Jevil, especially with how much the world revolving gets mentioned this chapter, but it was a fun fight and the first moment I heard her laughing I knew it was Hatsune Miku so it does have that going for it's memorability, but to me it seems the section afterwards where the flowers give you their petals to help in you in the future that they know will pass is the real important part more than Mew Mew herself. Also she might be the only secret boss we actually end up directly interacting with in the town if we do end up taking her there.Also the ghost Mew Mew is pure sex thick eyebrows on hateful girls is peak I need more fanart of her tounging Mew Mew's throat right now but that's neither here nor there.
>>741911842Nah, not yet. Kris would've probably roped a long time ago if they didn't have a mission to complete.
>>741911739yeah yeah, but at least I could say I tried
>>741910610replant the seeds because Flowery is genuinely fucking dead or to plant the delicate flowers in the Dark World.
If Toby was seeking to emulate what it feels like when your best friend gets a girlfriend and completely discards you like trash, then he really succeeded.Thanks for bringing back memories, you weeb sack of shit
>>741910610>including more vaugeposting despite explaining nothing TOBY
>Noelle makes ZERO mention of her father during Weird Route (when she's explaining how she's just a Noelle)>doesn't offer to help her recently medically released father as he is decorating for the festival when you can hear him coughing a mile away What the fuck is her problem?
>>741910364>Kris when I was killing Berdly, I've never felt so horny...Toby was this really necessary
>>741892392Yep. Took me a few tries to figure out some of her attacks, especially the bombs, but honestly I feel like she actually gave me less trouble overall than Flowery didI've been forcing myself to play each new chapter blind as it comes out, and this is the first secret boss I've actually encountered. How would you guys say she stacks up difficulty-wise compared to the previous ones?
>>741911982he's keeping them in his back pocket to turn flowery into his stand
>>741912037Why does that matters? It's Rudy doing Rudy things. He will never be anything beyond a sick, dying father.She's free now. Nothing matters anymore.
>>741912049In my opinion it is by far the hardest boss fight and it's not even close.
>>741911178Actually wheeze laughed
>>741912049she's probably the easiest secret boss so far
>>741911626Funnily enough we already have that with Deltarune Yellow and at this point I have more faith in that glorified kanaclover fic than actual deltarune
>>741912049hard to say, only the knight was remotely hard to beat, shes harder than everyone else honestly.
>>741912049Probably the second or third hardest one. Depends on how good your reaction time is for the bombs.Knight > Mew Mew/Jevil > Gerson > SpamtonSpamton is Kino but extremely easy. Flowery gets points for being harder than Gerson and Spamton but actually required.
>>741910226moon runes?
>>741912037Her life has been a lie for a long time now. Imagine her joy when she finds out what the lie was, and how to explicitly break free of it.
>>741911632After thinking it a bithometown is on top a huge dark world, that is why anyone can poke the ground and open a dark fountainBy going down the lake we're entering maybe not only the final area but as the game likes to tease, a place we're not supposed to goSomewhere outside the lie of the plot
>>741912147>>741912173duality of /v/
>>741912038>That 2 minute scene of Noelle confessing how she rubbed herself off to the thought of freezing BerdlyThis feels like a bit too much, even for Toby.
>>741911828Congratulations, you've just defeated any purpose of reading Deltarune at all now that any random internet fanfiction's characterization is equally canon as what's depicted in the original work. We can now all circlejerk about or favorite ships.
>>741912140>The day Rudy died, was the worst day of Carol's life>for me? It was just Tuesday.
So how fucking massive are chapters 6 and 7 going to have to be to explain everything?
>>741911892Because the prophecy says so.
>>741912217I never thought of that. And Asgore did say the Dark Fountain was akin to a river. And why is it smoke anyway?
>>741912049Knight took me 4 tries, Mew Mew took me like 11the bomb attack alone is the hardest thing in the game so far
>>741912186Is Yellow still ongoing? I thought it was finished and released.is it worth playing?
>>741912049mew mew is not that hard, but is a long fightthe whole chapter is kinda, just enough to be challenging without being hard-hard
>>741912264don't worry Toby will just not explain most of it
>>741912264minimal dark world, lots of light world exposition
>>741912068This webm is the single greatest OC DR has ever produced. Brings a smile to my face every time.
>>741912049Rory T. Knite is still the hardest, normal Spamton Neo is still the easiest, everyone in between depends entirely on how well someone can handle their respective gimmicks. For me it was Knight > weird Spamton > Jevil > Eram > Mew Mew > Gerson > normal Spamton.
>theoryfags have started to reach Sherlock levels of cope by saying the shitty writing is all intentional and that Toby is playing 4D chess and that Chapter 6 is gonna explain everything
>>741912049I’m stupid and the bombs filtered me
>>741912264Don't worry anon, the last stretch of Chapter 7 will have a long line of NPCs who'll loredump everything to you
>>741912392>and that Chapter 6 is gonna explain everythingQuestions are being answered like never before.
https://youtu.be/sQ38Mf6DODg?is=Ozmo1FYhJd2ted4TReally good video on Chapter 5 from a writers perspective.
>>741912049Depends on what you find difficult.I'd consider her more difficult than the first two, but easier than 3 or 4's.I find her difficult because she hits like a truck, so you can't make many mistakes.4's is difficult because there's a *lot* of attacks, even if he's more forgiving of mistakes
>>741912317water becomes vapor under the right amount of pressure and temperatureNoelle's magic is also very, water related in a way
>>741912392>akshually there is an in-universe explanation why the story needs to be bad herethis was the biggest cooe I've seen in a long while
>>741912441Ah good its Chrono Cross all over again
>>741912049I'd say she's on par with Knight. Everyone has learnable patterns besides maybe Spamton phone hands so her rng bombs make her a genuine threat if you're not fast at those.
>>741892392got my ass kicked multiple times
>>741912351Holy shit just like Omori:oooo
>manages to get everyone to hate toriel in chapter 4>manages to get everyone to hate susie in chapter 5Who’s Toby going to get this site to loath next?
>>>741912351What am I collecting all these fantastical weapons for then nigga? The great dimensional convergence is coming.it's the FINAL theory I hold onto.
>>741912392Chapter 7 is going to be the lore dumpwhile chapter 6 will be an annoying huge as baitKinda like in undertale with the neutral and true endings
>New chapter made me hate Susie and wanting to join in whatever plan Kris has with the Knight out of sheer spite.Damn Tobert, i kneel
>>741912507Berdley
>>741912485YOU'RE COPING TOO LONG
>>741911982>Flowery is genuinely fucking deadWorse he’s grafted onto a giga faggot
>>741912392Hey don't rope me in with them!I think the pacifist route is just going to tank in quality for good and just keep that way. >>741906714 sums it up.No, we're way more invested in the weird route and any potential variations of it. It's short enough that the writing doesn't have time to tank. It can however fuck up pretty bad chapter 7 is a nothingburger and Noelle is just fuckin' dead-dead instead of a husk or something.
>>741912049She's either the hardest fight or the easiest fight depending on whether you got her resist items from earlier chapters or not
>>741912450cheers anon, I'll watch your vid
I could one try Mew MewI could not try the KnightErgo the Knight is harder
>>741912330He's talking about a UTY + Deltarune fangame made by a local anon.It's meh as fuck imo.
>>741912582*a black transvestite giga faggotFTFY
>>741909885There's literally barely any weird route content in any of the previous chapters neither. It's 99% just retreading the normal route. The only exception is chapter 2, but even then it takes a while to get to the altered bits. This chapter at least gives you the story bits, which is what you're there for anyway, and gets out. It doesn't make you replay the whole ass unaltered chapter, which I appreciate. Seriously, something like chapter 3 could have been skipper entirely, since there's literally no changes.
>>741912627What happens if you put two anti puppet armors on someone does it actually make a difference that you can solo her as if you were wearing the mantle?
>>741912507DO NOT OPEN
>filters me to oblivion
>>741912492I can't believe I unironically say this but pre-nerf knight and spamton NEO (wr solo) both completely shit over mewmew in terms of difficulty. She's slightly harder than gerson/jevil. Just stack defense, realize defend is an offensive tool, be smart about when to push for hearts and when to play for avoidance and it's easy gg
>>741912730I beat her on my second try after dying to the omega flowey sword attack, I don't know why people say she was that hard
So are suselletards still trying to pull the “everyone who disagrees with me is an evil straight washing chud” care to krusie/Krisellefags upset with the chapter
>>741912730She is a brat you have to correct her
>>741912492She's easy without the resist items if you're not stupid enough to use the +1 flirts ever.
>>741912730stand still, once the knives stop spinning move left/right for a guaranteed dodge. The attack aims at you and you just have to wait out the lockon
I just finished the chapter, and now I really wish they would do a proper 2D action platformer, jumping around was too much fun, now if only he had also added a down thrust attack and that the final boss had had more action segments. On the other hand, holy shit we didn't need yet another gay couple, what's Toby's obsession with making everyone gay? It didn't help that this whole Suselle ship felt so fucking forced.>>741892392>finding the superboss was way easier than in the previous chapters>it's actually Mew Mew Mad Puppet>mfw lyrics>song was composed by CamelliaI'm not ashamed to admit that I was vibing a bit too hard to the music. I beat her on my second try, the first one was too close, but I got hit too much by one of her AOE attacks. It's hard to be better than Spamton Neo and Roaring Knight, but the fight was too damn fun.Now do me a favor and post Aqua fanart, I love her so much.
>>741912730I felt a strong urge to bend Seth over a table and fuck her when she brought this back every turn because it's the only attack Aqua could hit me with
>DON'T FORGET~>I'M WITH YOU IN THE DAAAA-*SLAM*...
>>741912938>really wish they would do a proper 2D action platformerLisa the Doleless
>>741912967Seth is very chubby and smells you dont want that
>>741912730Huh? How? I found that attack completely trivial compared to her other ones. Think I only got hit by it maybe once at mostAs far as I could tell the knives are always a set distance from her, so I just tried to match her movement and slipped through the cracks every time
>>741912982deservedhope the cuck kills themselves
>>741912730left, right, left, righti got a lot of damage from the photoshop flowey like attack though, i might be retarded
>>741913089try me
People who think Gaster is an evil puppet master that controls everything and will be the final boss are fucking retarded.
>>741892392This chapter was actually aweful.Nothing of note actually happened.it is tonal whiplash from the last 2 chapters.the bosses were okay except flowery and the anime cat girl. She had such great lead up with the animation of her in the store... only for her to be a literal anime catgirl with an annoying boss theme that made me mute the game.The 2d platformer sections were amazing, and at the same time were not used to their fullest potential.worst chapter yet. this was a filler arc.... which i said it would be after chapter 4 came out. wish i screenshotted that shit.>>741894902This anon gets it. Like the bitch is set up to be a sort of serious character that is internaly reflecting, unlike the other 4 schizo's. That could have been interesting. instead we get the worst boss in the entire series so far.
So the femKris theory is pretty much confirmed now right?
>>741912982People unironically watched this and thought "yes this is a good thing and a happy ending"
>Do WR>Suddenly the writing is actually goodIs this where Toby was putting in any effort?
>>741912982Kris was with her in the dark.Why isn't she?
>>741913137>Doesn't enjoy vocaloidwhy are you brown?
>>741913129i don't think he'll be the final bossi just think that he is an actual player with actual stakes and not just "watching" nowthere is something he clearly wants, the Goners literally killed Onion over knowledge about the lake
>>741913096exact opposite situation as methat attack was pretty much the only one that hit me, and did so multiple times on its turn. felt retarded during that seth fight afterwards
>>741913089Her gut and fat ass is gonna wobble and shake as I churn her up.
I'm kinda losing hope that FRIEND is going to amount to anything...Its about to be 6 chapters in and all hes done is be an easter egg in the background and be vaguely hinted as antagonistic...
>>741912982Guys, I think Kris is just a huge asshole. Genuinely what is his fucking problem?
>leave Kris' virginity to me!
>>741913205vocaloidfags must live in an echo chamber, do you have any idea how off-putting your shit is? It's mumble rap tier annoying to listen to
>>741912264Genuinely what's there to explain at this point? Toby isn't cooking some deep lore mystery. All you need is a 5 minute cutscene where Carol goes "the Knight is Dess' amalgamate because we're trying to bring her back" and that's it.
>Sans gets the canon "Don't forget" picture on the WR>this is happening before UT>when you meet him for the first time in UT, he's already met you before>from his point of view the last time you met you drowned a bunch of teenagers>"Aww shit not this fucking guy again"
>>741910165>Why is she straight up recycled from Undertale?You mean like 80% of everyone else in this game especially hometown?
>>741913205>listening to autotune:the artistishygddt
>>741913253What do you mean what is *his* problem? He's the victim in this.
>>741912967genuinely the best Flower
>>741913305ah right, the picture, yeah it's kinda confirmed no?I wonder how will sans reach the underground
>>741913253He's betrayed Susie and is somehow part of the evil shit happening to the town. At that point, you probably want to distance yourself and stop trying because you know the other person is gonna be hurt.Oh and he's also a corpse full of (you).
>>741913305Sans went to Undertale to deal with the soul. He wasn't there by accident.
>>741909418Yeah. The fact the game has an actual fun 2d platformer section then proceeds to use it like, 5 times total? Is really disapointing. Its a filler arc. Im telling you now you can completely cut this chapter from the game, and have asgore be kidnapped off screen and it would have the same outcome. Nothing was learned besides the shelter code.... that isnt even used,we still dont know the details behind asgore's accident, other that it was in a dark world, and maybe that dess or kris or carol opened one up years ago.
this chapter 5 suckedWould playing Undertale yellow make me feel any better?
>>741908752He goes against the Roaring Knight all by himself, the pretty boy was a fucking gigachad.
>>741913305>starts the conversation with a fart joke
>>741912049Knight > Gerson > Jevil > Mew > Spamton
>>741912982We've [WAITED] so long already.What's a few more years.
>>741913305>>741913376isnt' Undertale essentially the light world after the roaring
>>741913305So what is he trying not to forget"Kill these niggers on sight?"
Jesus fucking Christ you faggots never fail to remind me of how you're all insufferable incelsThe Yellow suicide room shit was pure comedy
moar Seth art being madeI will have 12 children with her
>>741913305>Sans gets the canon "Don't forget" picture on the WRThey're both canon. Susie only draws four characters on the punch card in the normal route if you choose one specific dialogue option in chapter 4, otherwise she draws three characters by default.
>>741913426If you do, absolutely do not play pacifist (Toby himself mocked the shit out of it and rightfully so). Neutral -> Genocide is the way to go.
>>741913305I still don't buy it, I think he's doing shit to trick (you)
>no Susie Noelle faggotry being drawn at allyeah id say this chapter was a success.
>>741913525>toby makes a dysgenic gender ambiguous obnoxious blob>people immediately want to fuck itI know this game attracts weirdos like fags and trannies but can you at least be a sodomite quietly
>>741913305>he employs the never-ending turn because he thought (You) would've been softlocked in the WR because your doe got out of your control and you didn't have the powerups necessary to navigate the depths>you proceed to break expectations AGAIN by shoving the battle box into the fight button AND swinging twice in one turn
>>741912582That's yellow with blue not flowery
>>741913564>one specific dialogue option in chapter 4Which one?
>>741913585I only played genocide, whats wrong with pacifist?
>>741912049On par with the knight for me honestly, there's so much bullshit to keep track of in the later phases
ngl, really liked these fox enemies. If you [check] them in battle it shows the fluffy tail animated, too
>>741913508>he's canon gay btw lole
>>741912982Kris is going to kill himself isn’t he
>>741913581>Ralsei is stronger than flowery and everyone>Chooses to do nothingAre we going to fight him or sacrifice himself?>>741913585Something really interesting is how darkners say the fountain got specially dark if you have all recruitsNot ominous at all tobby!
>>741913508pretty bad gif there foid
>>741913706You kill yourself
>>741913642Fuck off Toby you won't convince me not to fuck her
>>741913717honestly one of the smartest designs of Chapter 5>body looks like a tree stump>tails and ears are Foxglove flowers10/10
>>741913172The WR terrifies troons so the aborted route was left relatively unmolested
>>741912730when i got to the fight with her and seth i was kinda surprised when it turned out her omega attack was the one i got hit by the most and not that shit
>>741913779ok baby go fuck a drawing. as long as you stay away from women and very importantly children this is better for the gene pool
>>741913725100%.And Susie will not blame herself, because she has a prophecy to fulfill and carpet to munch.Noelle will not blame herself either.Nobody shoulders anything, Kris is gone, (You) are gone, Ralsei is Susie's friend now. Happy end.
Broken doe > yandere doe
>>741913139The only thing we got was a metaphorical allusion. No new evidence.
>>741912982>spends all of last night fighting a literal Titan with her confiding how great it is to be with him>then gets cucked the entire chapter
>>741913623I have yet to see a Suselle pic that isn’t just the, standing next to each other and blushing like retards
>>741913474imagine the ending is bad and you have a bunch of people in their 40's lamenting it
>>741913851based gap youkai i want to see that
I just want to know if the twisted sword is required or not. Is Seam going to ask for it, or is that completely separate from the pure crystal plan?
Flowery is so cool, i wish he replaced Ralsei
>>741912441>chapter 7 has 30 minute long version of the new home scene from UT
>>741913725>theyre losing her in the world thats supposed to be an escape from everything realFuck me, that's just extra gut wrenching.And to really drive it home, this is all before she actually finds out Kris is working with the Knight. At least then Kris could cope that this is because he betrayed her trust, but no. There's no cope like that. Susie is just bored of him and it's becoming apparent he was just a stepping stone on the way to Noelle. Kris' rationalizing won't be that this was inevitable because he deserves it, it will simply be that he's just not a person Susie wants around.
>>741913139if aqua was a boy would that make maleKris confirmed?
>>741913853DisagreeYandere doe is what I really wanted
>>741913508Literal DYKES hate this chapter no one but troons are happy with this
>>741913848No worries, leave Aqua to me.
>>741913747i'm legitimately confused by Ralsei's characterhe is obviously stronger than he lets on and gets pissed off when Flowery reveals how the game mechanics are a shambut chooses to do nothing
>>741913946>he was just a stepping stone on the way to Noelle.damn that reveal that she was always into her is really fuckeddamn
>>741913887I genuinely doubt there's any good ones, its just not interesting
>>741913139Isn't Aqua meant to based on the cyan human?
Anyone else REALLY wants to fuck Mew Mew?
>>741913961It would be strong counter-evidence.
>>741914034why did he do it? was he stupid?
>>741914048No but this chapter did fuel the asgore x mew mew ship
>>741914067Part of him probably just wants to die and stop being in pain and a burden.
>>741914008Sauce
>>741914048>Anyone else really want to fuck the most conventionally attractive character in the game?Gee I dunno boss.Also holy fuck, a plague on Susie for cockblocking Kris from that. At least Ralsei has the excuse of very probably being somewhat horny for Kris himself, now Susie is going to make sure Kris can't even rebuild a love life? Why??
>>741914083>asgore x mew mew shipyou mean kris x mew mew ship
>>741914013he has to folloow the rules, he's an npc
>E-Everyone hates this chapter!>Go on twitter>Nothing but posts with thousands of likes about how they loved the chapter and thought it was funnyGod, I fucking hate self insert incels
>>741914042Kris is the cyan human
I can't help but notice some terms and slang specific to powerscaling being used here...
>>741913916>Hopes and dreams crushed into pulp by the story that never could be.>So bad, that some take up the pen for themselves and write it as a mod that usurps the popularity of the actual game uncommon time>The last gasp of hope rides with the disgruntled spiteful /v/-boomer
>>741914138That's just the new thingI'm talking about the old hotness
>>741914096I think he might be the knight unironically, would explain why he just straight up crashed against that wall while escaping.
>>741910727The entire setting is very interesting in my opinion, the problem is how it's told and Toby's weird obsession of making everything so cryptic. There also haven't been any actual meaningful plot twists or reveals that could impact the story in a very long time, probably the most impactful one was the sudden introduction of the Roaring Knight. Remember how revealing the prophecy to Susie in Chapter 4 was such a huge deal? Yeah, she seems to have already forgotten about the fact that someone, probably her, will die.And Jesus Christ we didn't need another fucking gay couple.
>>741892392why does mew mew throw bombs? magical girls shoot lasers dont they? Also her boss fight would be good if her bombs weren't 10x harder to dodge than any other attack in the game
Let's see what Pixiv is doinghttps://www.pixiv.net/search?q=deltarune&s_mode=tag&type=artwork&scd=2026-06-24&ecd=2026-06-26&ai_type=1
>>741913887That’s because that’s ALL they do. It’s nothing but shitty romance tropes and the two TALKING about how much they love each other without showing why. If either Susie or Noelle were male NO ONE would defend this ship
>>741914013Theory: Ralsei has meta-awareness like what has Noelle during Weird Route. Only Ralsei chooses remain being "Ralsei" while Noelle rejects being "Noelle"
>commits genocide>thanks her rapist>forces her rapist to fuck her and himself to deathWhat the fuck was her problem?
>>741914172>>741914008Why does no pan just feel so right
All the flowers look like Steven Universe Gemsonas
>>741914304why are fags so convinced that kris and noelle died? its not guaranteed at all
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I'm sad that Asgore got kidnapped at the end.We could had some serious cool shit happen if Asgore was a part of the squad. I'm not saying Party Member or even a Castle Town recruit, but someone who knew about Dark Worlds, but instead we got the status quo Whatever, I gave up on this story being anything bigger at chapter 3. Its just 'character' slop now.
>>741914013He knows the final tragedy is supposed to result in something horrifically bad happening to Kris and Susie. He wants them to have a fun adventure before that because it'll be the last moments of their lives.
>>741914269Bombs, you want them? It's yours, my friend.
>>741914189F... Flowery sama...
>>741914127>Noelle why are you doing black face, this ain't funny
>>741914327Honestly just Blue does. Yellow is WoodySeth is illusion of gaiaAqua is some yokai shit idunno
>>741912049Beat her first try even without the mannequins equippedShe's really not that hard, even if you have trouble dodging her bombs, you can heal+stall until the mad dummy audience attack comes out and gives you max TP for free
>>741914338Ascension through deathThey casted off their mortal coil so that they can truly fly
>>741914127I am considering doing an aborted ch5 weird route just to make sure the next time I play I don't have to deal with the NTR cuck scene again.And hey, Noelle being Awake is a truly fun concept. I always thought she was a sweet innocent goblin. Noelle being "Noelle" always seemed like a constant state of denial.This is coming from a pacifistfag.Never again.
>>741914283>First page has feral Netskie porn and zero SuselleYou know it's grimly received
>>741914269Tokimeki Memorial reference
>>741892392Yes and it was incredibly annoying.
>>741914269Bombs are highly associated with dating sims due to Tokimeki
who really drowned? im small brained and confused
i hope the answer is that it is literally a simulation
>>741914474Yeah... Really fun fight aside from the bombs. But those were so bad it drags the whole fight down.
didnt he ask for a master or something in the previous characters? this is an example of toby CLEARLY changing his mind and saying fuck it because he just randomly gets new upgrades. Its very clear that he became somewhat a hack, and threw 1000 different lore-baits at us, and only like 2 of them will have any sort of payoff
>>741914048I will do everything in my power to get this retarded asshole of a vessel laid I swear to god. So yes i wanna fuck the cat.
>>741910727I have seen exactly three fucking arguments to defend the writing:>Uhmm, of course nothing happened, it's a LIGHT HEARTED chapter, you know? We were warned it was gonna be.(As if there's been no light hearted chapters before that also could push the narrative forward.)Then>Why are you criticizing Suselle? It's been clear since the very start that Suselle was gonna happen! You're just mad it wasn't your ship that won!or>You're just self-inserting as Kris and disrespecting what the actual character wants! Can't you see they're actually really happy for Susie and Noelle and nothing wrong is going on?!
>>741907945blue would be far more liked if he were a woman, even a burly one like his current shape
I deliberately forced Kris to avoid every scene that seemed potentially romantic this chapter (by making Susie and Noelle do everything together at the festival and then not getting in the hot spring with Ralsei)I'm not letting his double-crossing ass out of the cuck chair until he fucking explains himself barring the EXTREMELY unlikely off-chance that him getting a kiss from Mew Mew actually amounts to something in the future, in which case I will not stop him from getting an anime catgirl gf and/or GHOST BLOWJOB WOOWOO WOO. Even I'm not THAT cruel
>>741914416retard, if you let them drown Gaster makes it all look like a dream sequence. They got past the boundaries of the map because we kept them from dying.
I'm surprised the secret boss wasn't at least partially fought in 2D platformer mode.
>>741914283>>741914440Pixiv is not a good website for this (half of the results are westerner mirror uploads anyway). Japanese audience of UT/DR is about 50% split of nip leftists and the JRPG crowd, both of which are almost exclusively on twitter.
>>741914510Kris drowned. (You) and Noelle made it out.
>>741909936
>>741897945why does /vpol/ produce these anti-yuri niggers? you are literally mentally ill just like the trannies you hate.
>>741914594who's the floating top hat?
>>741913153Kris is the villain of the story.
>>741914601ngl I had assumed the entire boss fight for the secret boss would be in 2D platformer given that it's the chapter gimmick. But eh
>>741912049She was the second hardest boss for me, only behind the Knight. Some of her attacks are really hard or even borderline impossible to avoid depending on the patterns and the VN section does too much damage if you choose wrong.
>>741914510Dunno lol. We're just meeming, or jumping to conclusions.
>>741914557>Kris commits sudoku immediately making the suselle shippers reel in horror.It'd be funny, but Toby would not do that because Kris is his self-insert.
>>741914640have you considered that some people don't like yuri? I tend not to because it's rarely written interestingly (most romances aren't)
>>741910262Genuinely one of the scummiest things they've ever done. It could have even just been a funny gag in some other circumstances, but this coming right after Susie finds love on her own? What's her fucking malfunction??
>>741892392>”oh you keep talking about how great undertale yellow is and how you want to see woody WELL FUCK YOU THERE A RETARDED SUICIDAL COWBOY WHO TAKES IT UP THE ASS FROM A BLACK TRANNY”A part of me believes that ch5 was just an elaborate spite post from toby
>>741914657artist's OC
>>741914510and who came back?
>>741914640>why does /vpol/ produce these anti-yuri niggers? you are literally mentally ill just like the trannies you hate.
>>741914753At least it makes sense with Ralsei because he wanted You from the start. I don't understand why Susie does it.
>>741914760It's not even a tranny, it's just some very zesty blue nigga on a tutu
>>741914327At least the gems early on were attractive. Most of the flowers look like shitty tumblr rejects
>Deltarune is just a simulation within Undertalehow mad would it make you
>>741914594Yeah he rests it to be a dream if you don't keep goingOnce you get to the insert screen it's clear that they jumped the story and even then they've gone off the main pathThey may die physically but mentally they are freeing themself and their bodies will be true vessels for their conviction
>>741910727the writting is overall good, the darkworld part of the chapter is about how asgore still lives in an idealistic version of the past, to the point it goes back to being undertale, and making a lot of references to past things, cowboy prairie, japanese castles, even the boss fight is a callback to the secretboss of the switch version of undertalei do hate how we have so many questions left unanswered, all to be unveiled in 2 chapters, my pattern recognition says its gonna get messy trying to wrap everything up, but point being, everything about this chapter fits the narrative, and i dont really feel like explaining this everytime some retard complains about the chapter, toby should hurry up and release the chapter for the sole reason that everyones reading comprehension is reaching negative levels the longer he takes
>>741914702>>741914510Jee I wonder.>They followed the pointed tail (Noelle's tail is lit for the entire scene)>In the forest where trees would grow>The poor children!I'm legitimately thinking Noelle waking up is how to start breaking shit for real. Keeping her alive by letting the game fail-state you into an aborted route may be the way
>>741914640did you just want attention or are you actually taking my post that seriously
The grid movement is way too sensible on a controller, half of the damage I took on the bomb attacks was due to me setting myself in a safe spot and trying to stop my movement which only resulted in me moving the opposite direction. It's the opposite of the 8-sided shield from Gerson's fight that's way too hard for keyboard and only really works when you're circling around an analog stick.
>>741914835If I can get my vessel back them I'm alright
>>741914557I'm curious what Gerson would think if he found out that after all those pep talks, all that motivating Susie, all that training montage and all that talk from her about writing her own story where she stays with her friends forever, she's just suddenly completely surrendered to the prophecy and has ditched one of her friends for no reason.Fuck dude, straight up disrespecting his lessons just one day after.
>>741914510Nobody drowned. There's a Dark World at the bottom of the lake.
So uh what’s the explanation for the flowers looking like humans beyond “muh undertale reference”?
mew mew magic's song is much better than any other song in the chapter. Not that its THAT good of a song but i guess toby really fell off hard
>>741914760Dunno the entire Yellow sequence was pretty funny
>>741914929I mean doesn't he already know what happens in the story? I don't think he'd be taken that aback.
>>741914835Depends, do I get to hang out with either Frisk or Chara instead of Kris? Even Noelle as our vessel being able to hang out around them would be nice
>>741914945Seeing as Seth had to be bribed by Kris, it seems they're doing it to appeal more to kris and for asgore it's because of anime
>deltarune pulls a poppy’s playtime with Toby getting ousted from his own game with the remaining crew completely hijacking the plotHow mad would you be
>>741914947Fucking crazy man.>Flower man>Petal Dance>Sunset of the Seven SunsThese at the very least I would consider better than the Miku one.
>>741914904>way too sensible*sensitive
>>741910727I think beyond everything else, what really makes me just feel empty about this chapter is how basic it is. The concept of a dark world where the 7 flowers represent the humans from undertale was something people have been speculating on since 2018, so when it happened it didnt feel terribly cool or exciting, more of an, oh ok. I kept waiting for some fucked up twist, but it was played completely straight. I genuinely think this is a place where the game has suffered the most from its staggered release, because this is an idea that was apparent 8 years in the making, and thus had already been done to death by fan creations
>>741914947I mean the megaman x styled songs were alright and uhhh…. Yeah no I can’t name a single song from this wtf
>>741915039>Toby literally dies before the release of CH6 and 7i think this would drive at least a couple of people to suicide
It actually feels kind of racist how Japanese this chapter is
>>741915062I like all of them and Mew's theme equally, also Running Sky, Quiet Glade and the sad shit that plays when "Thank you for watching my dream".
>>741914283>click link>first thing I see is Toriel's fat assWOAH MAMA
>>741915097anon? the whole point of the flowers is that the are the opposite of their attributes here, Aqua is not patient at all.
>>741914997I feel like we're witnessing Iroh and Zuko again, only in this case it all happened within 24 hours so the slow healing and maturing progress is completely missing and it's just Susie being hypocritical while not actually assimilating the lessons she's getting.
>It's 2026 and there are still retards that are mad and shocked that there's gay shit in the game made by a man that loves gay shit
>>741915039100% mad
Ralsei forceful impregnation
>>741914997He knows a version of the story, and in his the Dragon was defeated on C1.
>>741915039Deltarune was precisely advertised as Toby's schizophrenic magnum opus. If fans found out the game they've waited 10 years for was co opted and ruined, the people responsible for it would be raped and torn to shreds on the street AT THE VERY LEAST
>>741914947Camellia also had a hand in that one, so they also deserve some blame. Chapter 5's soundtrack felt a bit mediocre, but Flower Man and Running Sky are going to be in my head for a while.
>>741915062>Flower mani dunno i think its kinda overrated. I think tenna theme is better (and that already says a lot)> petal dancemeh>sunset of the seven sunsthis one is goodwhich is the best delraune song for you guys? for me its BIG SHOT
>>741915196I can bear gay shit but it went from being 10% of the plot to 50% in this chapter.
>>741915147>No it's fine I just didn't expect it to be Japanese
>>741915303>Remember SPAMTON bros?! Yeah yeah
>>741915159fuck I forgot about Quiet Glade, 10/10 track, I sat there contemplating the whole scenery.
>>741915163moar
>>741915196/v/ loves deluding themselves into thinking their favorite creators are secretly based maga chads that are force by the woke to hide themselves
>>741915196Toby was supposed to be on MY side
>>741914929it's honestly almost comical how everyone forgot about what happened in ch4 by the next day
>>741915303>tenna theme is betternah, Flower man mogs
>>741915268I’m pretty sure Toby’s flat out stated that he’s had less and less direct control throughout the development process. I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if the ending he get is nothing like the ending Toby dreamed up
>Can fight Aqua and Seth normally>Green and Orange infinitely heal themselves>So does Blue and Yellow>Fucking SUSIE AND RALSEI BETRAY YOU AND HEAL FLOWERY>oh and mew mew is literally invincible btwWhat's even the fucking point anymore?
>>741915371not my fault he's the goat
>>741915303Hammer of justice
>>741915481It's clear the writers didn't want to code a different route for beating them with violence
Better question, where did Kris go all night without us after Chapter 4 anyway?
>>741915491He was fine. FINE. I'm tired of people pretending he was the pinnacle of Deltarune or whatever.
>>741915481the dark world mechanics don't even matterits all LARP and made-up bullshitRalsei gets pissed off when Flowery brings it up
>>741915481Raping kris
>>741915196Its just a new era of Homestuck to be fair. Somehow these people never clocked that they're just the same exact fanbase and Toby is just completing his Hussy cycle soon. Subverting killing the author by letting you abuse the Annoying Dog sometimes. I just hope the actual gameplay will still be decently fun at the last hurdle, unlike that wet shart homestuck decided to end on.
>>741915481FIGHTing exists solely to drive across that your choices don't matter and you can't change the ending unless you get weird with it.
>>741914929Literally nothing about chapter 5 makes sense when compared to 4 it feels like the plot went BACKWARDS in some places
>>741915559Conspiring with Carol and the Knight. Probably reviewing the details of how to set up the dark world and Asgore's kidnapping.
>>741915196i signed up knowing there'd be gay shit and not really caringi did not sign up expecting the entire story to get put on a backburner for a filler chapter entirely based around said gay shit when we just narrowly defeated a world-ending threat last night
>>741915559there is going to be an entire section of the game that's just going to be showing events that happened whenever (YOU) weren't aroundliterally every character that knows anything of impor knows that bad people are listening
>>741915594>FIGHTing exists solely to drive across that your choices don't matter and you can't change the ending unless you get weird with it.>Getting weird with it also requires fightingHuh?
>>741915573I wonder what's the point. It must have some importance if Ralsei want us to follow these made-up rules.
>>741915637I forgot this retarded nigger deleted his own phone contacts to not let us pry into his business
>>741915039Let me raise the stakes here. Imagine if they make Chapters 8, 9, 10, and 0 an actual reality so they can have MORE non-Toby chapters to fully assimilate the plot into whatever they want, all out of pure pettiness.
>>741915481The devs realizes that most people don’t bother fighting the bosses so they just removed that option. Your choices DO NOT MATTER
>>741915303the world revolving is pretty swell. I can listen to BIG SHOT on occasion but it can get a bit old. I think Knock You Down !! is a strong track too. But IT'S TV TIME is my favourite so far. The Titan song is more epic and grandiose but Tenna's songs are a great time.
Kris telling Carol that her remaining daughter is forever doomed to be a giga dyke
>>741915796Why isn't he grabbing her ass as he does that?
>>741915695Its Susie. Susie is the point. They are grooming her into becoming the hero. The Knight showed he didnt need to actually give a shit about this whole ordeal he could have just swiped his blade and deal with everyone in an instant back in Chapter 3. This larp is just a farce so that Kris and the Knight are forced to play along.
>>741915706>tfw we get DELTARUNE 2 NOT featuring Toby FoxThat would completely kill any good will this franchise has built up after over a decade
>>741915830Kris is going to save that for Dess/Mew Mew/The Cactus
>>741915303https://youtu.be/WM2KpQFNbmk
>deltarune threads are allowed now that everyone hates the gameAmazing
>>741892392this fight fucked suckeddifferent soul for one fight that makes it artificially "hard"really dumb player/kris parallel FIVE CHAPTERS IN why did it have a crystal?
>>741915863Susie isn't even supposed to be here.
>>741915196Gayshit is fine as long as its well-written. I'm probably the only anon here who cares about the Alphys Undyne sideplot and has been playing wingman for teach every chapter.
>>741915196>cattranny picture with the world's most retarded argument possibleYou're awfully repetitive. And predictable.
>>741915196I knew there'd be gay shit. I don't mind gay shit,What I wasn't expecting was that it wasn't GAY shit, but gay SHIT.
>>741915695Ralsei is still Flowey, maybe even in the literal sense, he is super mega powerful but needs certain things to happen in a specific way, he is even aware that -people- can listen to him
>>741915986Thats the point.
>>741908752i knew he wasn't a bad person, but he really started to piss me off. I had Kris tap him only to be immediately shut off by Susie and Ralsei (who was swiping at him literal minutes ago)
>>741915481>attack items are worthless this chapterAt least let them get tired to use Pacify. Why even give those items that lower their TP if tired only comes from acting and you can just mercy instead? It's like they forget it's a mechanic even though it's in this chapter.
>>741915981>why did it have a crystal?It's Asgore's.
>>741916040i still can't get over how Alphys literally ran the monster world equivalent of nazi/unit 731 experiments in the basement but everything was forgiven because "le quirky lesbian character"
>>741915981Some nigger gave? Asgore a mew mew doll and shoved the crystal in there. Is this really that complicated to figure out for people?
>get into a gunfight>expect bullets>get hit with 50 million antimatter bombs>uhhhmmmmmm what did you expect retard? You should've seen this coming
>>741915706After this complete homo filler fest of a chapter where I was expecting much more due to Toby's vagueness of its discussion in every newsletter for it, I hope he's saving Chapter 0 as a secret chapter true final chapter or whatever. 2 chapters remaining to get to the good shit now feels like far too short, and Chapter 6 apparently being the easiest chapter to develop out of them all absolutely does NOT help the fact; neither does the fact it gets completely SKIPPED on the Weird Route.
>>741915981Shadow Crystals are spawned from broken dreamsMew Mew wished to walk and speak in that body, and inhabited a Darkner for who knows how long. Her dreams made the Shadow Crystal spawn in Mew Mew's body.
>>741915481I lost interest on the Weird Route very soon once I realized that, instead of being a route about corrupting different characters, it was nothing but a consolation prize for Kriselle fags with a terribly told plot. At least the solo Spamton Neo fight was very fun, but Weird Route is just Undertale Genocide at home.
>>741916249Oh i see, Gersons crystal was from Alvin. Who the fuck is Jevils from?
So many people getting filtered by being illiterate.
>>741916281Noelle ain't "Noelle" anymore by the time she reaches chapter 5.The ship sank the second the thorn got smashed into her womb. What we have here is just [Freedom Sauce] for Kris and perhaps what remains of Noelle.
>be Carol >be forced to manage a broken family as your husband is dying and your oldest daughter is “dead”>try to make sure your youngest daughter and neighbor’s son remain close but it doesn’t work>try to work on a scheme to bring back older daughter >younger daughter suddenly starts gushing about some violent new girl >walk home to discover said violent retard is playing with your dead daughters guitar and threatening to unravel your entire plot>she decides to take your faggy daughter to the festival purely to spite YOU>try to avoid going apeshit and let her go>husband nearly dies>can’t even tell your daughter this because she’s too busy eating Dino pussy at the beachBeing Carol is suffering
>>741916281>consolation prize for Kriselle fags with a terribly told plotWR isn't about shipping but breaking past the game.
>>741916338Jevil is the only one that got one from The Knight, he says so himself>Jevil -> The Knight>Spamton -> Inside the abandoned Lightner-blessed armor>The Knight -> His dreams>Gerson -> Alvin's dreams>Mew Mew -> Her dreams
>>741914594Susie says it was at least somewhat real (Mentioning that kris and noelle were wet and spent a while together.) But I guess you meant he just made it look like one and it still mostly happened?
>Weird Route Noelle immediately tries to kill herself after enduring an entire day with Susie
>>741916368I know it's a meme buzzword but some people seriously do lack media literacy.
>>741916169UT Alphys is a spineless loser who ran the monster world equivalent of nazi/unit 731 experiments in her basement.DR Alphys is a spineless loser who is also your teacher. She is not bound to the sins of her UT counterpart so she gets a pass.
>>741916368MY FUCKING HERO
>>741916535>Aborted WR Noelle sees the whole romantic lake scene as depressingIt doesn't bode well for Suselle.
>>741916281the corruption isn't the point, it's the characters realizing that they are just players in the prophecy and they are just "doing things" like NPCsthe point is not to corrupt but to gain enough freedom to break outside of whatever the fuck they are, whether they literally mean the town or the game itself. You can control Kris up to a certain point but if you have Noelle and combine the two, you can literally do anything
>>741916452>Chapter 5 doesn't show you anything about Asgore>Doesn't show you anything about the Dess case>Doesn't show you anything new about Carol>The Church being trashed has zero consequences>None of what happened in Chapter 4 is brought up>Susie is never shown to be afraid of what she saw at the end of the Prophecy.What was even the point of this chapter? Toby's weebshit self-indulgency? Is tranny team's groomerpedo self-indulgency?
>>741916821"one last fun chapter before the real serious shit begins"aka"enjoy 2 hours of yurishipping followed by they/them pronouns and tranny ballerinas"
>>741916821Dess was turned into a toast
>>741916821to be somewhat fair it's going to hook into a hell of an opener in 6 presumably with rudy falling seemingly ending the entire festival, everyone will wonder where you and susie were the entire time, why asgore is missing when his best friend almost died, etc. my expectation is susie is going to go to noelle to try and recruit her having no idea what happened and get rejected, hard, so she'll retreat even deeper into fantasy
>>741916959>implying people in chapter 6 will care about what happened in chapter 5nobody gave a shit about the church being ruinednobody gave a shit about undyne going missingnobody will give a shit about asgore being cooped up in his flower shop for a few hours
>>741916821j-just one more fun goofy adventure guys I swear, we'll totally make it work cramming the climax of the game in two episodes and it won't feel underwhelming at all!
>>741917104asgore not being there when rudy falls is going to be a major red flag, probably was getting called by carol but he didn't respond. this would prompt them to consider the disappearance of undyne and asgore to be related, might bring the conspiracy into the light for the whole town
>>741917206>probably was getting called by carol but he didn't respondcarol probably orchestrated kris opening the dark world anyways, rudy falling might've been inopportune at the moment but I'm sure carol would quickly understand why she couldn't reach asgore and would block anyone trying to investigate
>>741916639aborted WR also makes noelle dislike KrisEverything is just broken there
What happens if you dont give tenna to mettaton? Will he still be around for the last 2 chapters or will he be thrown away by toriel one day
Can we talk about the gameplay?
>>741917886Sure
>>741917886At page 10? Faggot
>>741917886Flair and presentation over challenge. There's a room that looks like it'll be hard fun but if you fail two tries it automates the ACT mechanic you've been learning the whole chapter. Deltarune does not want to be a game.
rudy knight feels further validated by the fact that flowery who is somewhat a derivation of rudys persona during asgores college years is not only among the most innately powerful foes yet but also the only foe capable of going toe to toe with the knight for more than a few seconds. in other words: powerscaling checks out
>>741917650>original aborted WR ferris wheel scene made it clear she was still horny for kris instead of suddenly fucking hating him>got cut to keep the return to status quoi'm honestly still not sure if i'm mad or not about it
>>741918043Yeah!
