Will KINOshita be able to reedem the game?
Maybe, but what they're showing is tripping the same red flags that DD2's reveal gave me. No inspiring music, the SAME fucking enemies as before AGAIN, making a huge deal over small fixes, etc. I'm detecting a severe lack of sovl that plagued DD2 and I don't like what is most likely going to happen. I'm still gonna buy it, though.
>>741897532KinoSHITa more like haha!Nah seriously, I really need to play the Dragon's Dogma games, they've been on my radar for like a decade and I've obsessed over most Capcom games and just for some reason never touched Dragon's Dogma despite it looking like something I'd love.
>we listened player feedback after DD2 releasehow about fucking listening to the feedback of the previous 10 years you fucking monkeys
Idk, the 12 new dungeons featuring red eye versions of existing bosses doesn't feel me with hope.At least the 3 save slots are actually character slots which was something I was afraid would be simply 3 different save instances for 1 character.Did anyone catch the 6 skills button maps?
>>741897532I'm still waiting for the hard mode
>>741897972The DDDA (the first one+expansion) is dirt cheap on sales so just try that one
>>741899991I actually do own that, which makes me not touching it even dumber. I've literally had it for years...
>>741897532>I will fry your GPU>I will have an icy map where you can't see shitWhy? If it's running like ass I want nice visuals.
>>741897972There's a reason people say Dragon's Dogma is the best 7/10 game you'll every play.DD2 is just alright, a lot of anons went in expecting everything and the moon (literally) and were rightly upset at how ultimately lackluster the game is.
>New dungeons added are just filled with stronger versions of existing enemies with red glowing eyesThis expansion is really gonna be low effort shit isn't it?
>>741898795the main map was severely lacking in dungeons, let alone content that actually takes you there. rather it barely had 4 or 5 while the first game at least had several in base game. depending on scope I can be happy with thatas for bosses DA didn't even add a single new enemy other than Daimon everything was just a reskin or they made a warrior bandit or wolf or cyclops way bigger.DA didn't even have new skills just upgrades for existing skills.Overall I am seeing so far, this delivers a lot more core gameplay additions than the first game's expansion. the question is will the content actually be good or a good size?
>>741900374The dungeons are free for non-dlc owners. Its basically cut content for the base game because the doors were already present when the game launched. Doesn't count as DLC content.
>>741897532The fuck, is there a new vid?
>>741897532Is this the guy responsible for DA1 and DDO?
>>741900563https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN53yCLBqDQ
>>741897843>I'm still gonna buy it, though.Why are you retards like this?
>we listened to feedbackSo the new enemies aren't just reskins, right?
>>741900374Hey if Norgan actually has new enemies maybe modders could put some of those im the 12 dungeons. With red eyes of course.
>>741897532is he here to shit on my DD2 kino?
>>741900714he's here to make the DD2 shit kino
>>741900714>Eternal Ferrystone>Portcrystals in every settlementits too late. He already has...
>KINOshitaHoly shit, the director of RE8: Shadows of Rose DLC? We are so fucking back.
>>741900806no one is forcing you to use either of those
>>741900437>as for bosses DA didn't even add a single new enemy other than DaimonMy standards are higher that DA, especially for DD2's bigger map and less enemy variety as a base. We'll see how many new enemies Norgan brings, if any.
>>741897532Nigga needs to just make dogma 3. This expansion will have no new vocations, no new enemies but reskins, no hard mode, and no adjustments to the base game.One of the three pillars of this expansion is “we added more tattoos and hairstyles” lmfao. His literal words. If they had meaningful changes or additions that people actually asked for, he’d be singing them from the rooftop. It’s the same as base dd2 pre release where we literally got just what was shown in trailers and that’s it. Enjoy fighting Minotaur but red eyed and with 20% faster animations as the boss of one the 12 dungeons. Guess what the other fucking bosses will be.
still gonna pre-order the dlc, faggots
hoping the new region has more npc kino
>>741900714>The haters are now pretending DD2 is great to shit on 2Dark2Arisen
>chud itsuno says multiple saves too hard and breaks game>chadshita drops it immediatly
it's funny watching DD fags inhaling the copium again.
>>741901180if the expansion had 0 npcs it would be an improvement over the base game
>>741901249M-MASAKA!!!!
>>741901013>Guess what the other fucking bosses will beLets see if I can count to 12.Red eye CyclopsRed eyes OgreRed eyes GriffinRed eyes DrakeRed eyes MinotaurRed eyes DullahanRed eyes MedusaRed eyes SphinxRed eyes uhhh Infected DrakeRed eyes Warg?Red eyes Giant Goblin?Red eyes Giant Slime?Yeah idk, maybe 5 of those just have Cyclops and we can call it a day.
>>741901736You forgot Red Eyes Lich and Red Eyes Golem
>>741901013>>741901736they literally just showed off several different enemy types retard. did you even watch the showcase?
>>741901975Oh right>>741901976New enemies?
>>741901736I also forgot Red Eye Chimera. That makes 12 boss creatures without having to include slimes and goblins.
You're gonna do it.I can't believe you're actually gonna do it.You're gonna buy the same unfinished game's unfinished dlc's unfinished sequel dlc for the unfinished sequel game.Lmao.
>>741901736Gold golem would be an easy add
>>741902226The DLC will finish the game actually
>>741902120Fits dangerously neatly. Oh well.
>>741901249>itsuno says multiple saves too hard and breaks gamedid he really say thatwhat a retard
Was going to buy and play this game. Guess i'll wait.
I am kind of excited for 6 skills mystic spearhand and 6 skills mage/thief pawnobligatory BRINE ALL BEASTREN post
I'm glad I waited.I hope the game has good mods by now (of the gameplay and coom kind, especially)
Are they going to fix the main story's endgame?>Title drop (2)>Actually just a time limited boss rush
Finally, Warfarer will have 5 skills instead of 3.
>>741897532>literally NO NEW INFO: the streamwhat is even the point>good thingwe can use axes>bad thingsall 12 challenge dungeons seem to be single room arenas where you fight base game reskins
>>741897843I have seen this same picture like 10 times in different threads today
Is there a price yet? Wondering if it's better to get the game now then buy the expansion.
>>741902738>single room arenasPlz no
>>741901976>cyclops but furry>drake but blue>griffin but fire breathing>bandits but snowniggers>grigori but smellyyeah sure looks promising
>>741902884about 20 bucks
>No new vocationsMurder the entire dev team NOW
Tis Doragon Dogma Desu
>>741903002Guess i'll get the game now then.
>>741901013Why the FUCK would I buy DD3? I didn't even buy DD2 lmaoPut them all in the gacha camps for eternity.
>>741903215wait, they are going to release a new edition costing less & without any microtransactions. it's coming soon, too
Dragon's Dogma will never reach its potential because its scale is too costly and time consuming. The reason DD2 and DD2DA rehash so much DD1 content is because DD1 was actually a very expensive title that ate up a lot of devs at Capcom. For Dragon's Dogma not to feel undercooked it would probably need a Cyberpunk tier budget and dev time, and Capcom isnt interested in megaprojects anymore after RE6. Why spend years making a new Dragon's Dogma when you could probably make 3 Resident Evil games with the same manpower that will sell better? The juice isnt worth the squeeze.
>>741901002>as for bosses DA didn't even add a single new enemy other than Daimon
>>741903358Ok, guess i'll wait. It's just it's £8 on Loaded atm.
>>741900437>as for bosses DA didn't even add a single new enemy other than Daimon everything was just a reskin or they made a warrior bandit or wolf or cyclops way bigger.Eliminators and Punishers were new. Gazer was new. Death was new.Even things that reused model skeletons were so different enough they can be considered new enemies (Living Armors, Wargs).
>>741903459you are absolutely right. DD would have to have the sales numbers of elden ring to justify such an endevor for capcom. it sure has the potential, but it's just too risky for them. many faggots forget that capcom actually isn't big. they have a manpower of 300 devs, that's nothing for triple A standards
>>741903459the sad part is, they keep wasting time and resources on the open world garbage when it's consistently the worst aspect of both games.They should just drop it completely and make a dungeon crawler Dragon's Dogma.
>>741903459They could at least reuse all of the missing DD1 enemies and bosses like gargoyles, hydras, evil eyes etcThis game desperately needs variety.
>>741903583you're right I forgot about gazer and death, so it has 3 new bosses.... not that I'd really praise Death at all.eliminators and punishers are literally the standard Warrior moveset on a 1.5 bigger banditLiving Armor is the same but with magic knight and fighter animationswarg is literally just a big wolf you can climb on and occasionally farts a cloud.
>>741903794Completely different engine, so "reusing" them just means "building them from scratch" in this case
>>741899991>DDDDA (Dragon's Dogma Dos Dark Arisen) >>741900121
>>741897532>he's finally smiling nowItsuno bros... not like this...
>>741897532Itsuno fucked up DD two times
>>741903794>>741903903they could easily reuse skeletons and AI from DmcV/Monster HunterThe latter franchise specifically already used to share a couple of rigs with DD in the MT Framework era, no reason not to do that again
>>741903843>eliminators and punishers are literally the standard Warrior moveset on a 1.5 bigger banditNo? They have a completely different moveset, different launch and knockdown animations and different opportunity weakpoints. They are also climbable.
>same enemies but snow themed >warrior is still gonna fucking suck and the modded versions of the vocation are just gonna be better anyway so pray the modders update said mods accordingly >no new vocations>no hard modeCapcom is the street fighter 6 shilling and resident evil remake company. If you are not experiencing street fighter 6 shilling and you're not playing a resident evil remake game then you are not Capcom's audience right now. They money they made from Pragmata is gonna be used to fund even more street fighter 6 shill campaigns and to kickstart more resident evil games and they will then shelve Pragmata forever and not make a new IP game for the next 25 years.
Kino...I'm ready to blast again
>>741904280>snow wolf pops into existance in front of you
>>741900121give it a go, it's basically like Skyrim but with gameplay and story by the original God of War teamif you like it, DD2 is a higher quality but more sparse and less edgy version, I like it but it's definitely missing a spark... maybe the DA2 expansion will fix that
That didn't really show/tell us much. I saw the new skill screen but I'd like to know what buttons those actually correspond to, I guess that's too much to tell us apparently. My guess is R2 and L2. As I thought, they really think that RNG loot is what people liked about BBI and not the actual dungeon itself. My expectations for these 12 is extremely low because in order to make that many, they're likely going to have to be tiny while following the same formula. It'll still be fun but I don't know why Capcom isn't capable of making like an actual large dungeon, I guess only Fromsoft knows that secret art nowadays.
>>741897972DD:DA is legitimately one the best adventure RPGs. Amazing breath of exploration that's filled with a crazy amount of little nooks and crannies you can get lost in. Pawns are an amazing concept that will NEVER EVER be replicated again by a better studio. There is a huge level of interactivity with the world like avoiding deep water so as to not get drenched/drown/slowed down or windy cliffsides blowing off your smaller party members.And that's not even getting into the dungeon crawling and class/RPG systems which are both very well thought out.Basically a product of it's time. One of few last shouts of creativity in an industry that's been stagnant since 2007.
>>741902884https://store.steampowered.com/sub/1686522/dd2+dd2da is 50 bux
>>741904549that's the bundle of game + xpac retard
https://x.com/DragonsDogma/status/2070280997883580593i hope the northern attire is a layered set, and they make a layered armor feature
>>741904670i didn't have time to scroll down
>>741904564>I guess only Fromsoft knows that secret art nowadaysthe secret is "put instakill death pits anywhere the player might wander out of bounds"in DD they can't do that because grabbing harpies and flying everywhere is a thing, so they have to more carefully design areas and consequently make them smaller so the mobo doesn't catch fire
>>741904619>posts killer7 gif
Yeah I would have liked for them to just make a DD3 while reusing as much content as possible. I don't think you can salvage a lot of 2
>>741903459This isn't even true.Dragon's Dogma's could just be made in the manner of early Souls or Yakuza - make it at as low spec as possible and then grab as much assets as you can from other projects. Monster Hunter is full of easily repurposed animations and skeletons, they'll be tons of human assets from other games. Textures, etc.I'm not actually asking for brand new ideas otherwise I wouldn't be fiending for a game that's all about traditional old school vanilla fantasy stuff.
>need snow area to make muh wow contentlol
>>741904651>Frozen zone>No slutwearits over
>>741905028Shut it you scat lovin negro
>>741904651Thanks anon. Cheaper for me to buy DD2 now then.
im hoping for the best — expecting absolute bare minimum.
>>741905132Ooh, you're fucked.
>>741905418I should do a replay. Last time I played I was like 13 lol.
no hard mode no buy
>>741904676do you have this in full hd please?
>>741905504It's pretty good, plus it has an empty Times Square stage; just like 2021's Coronavirus outbreak.
with those high weapon/armor stats on the new items shown in the trailer, i seriously hope they ramped up the difficulty/damage to an insane level. I kind of think that's going to be the case, Dark Arisen 1 was a significant difficulty spike so this should be too. I just hope it's a really high one. A hard mode option would work too
>no mention of Hard mode for base gamei'm concernedvery concerned
>>741905842Is this HD enough?
>>741905062>Dragon's Dogma's could just be made in the manner of early Souls or Yakuza - make it at as low spec as possible and then grab as much assets as you can from other projects. Monster Hunter is full of easily repurposed animations and skeletons, they'll be tons of human assets from other games. Textures, etc.Nah, a huge part of DD's appeal is its ambitious systems that's way more interactive than basically anything else in the genre, if this was easy to copy you'd see tons of DD copycats by now. Souls gets copied because even indie devs can make soulslikes, and indie dev could never make a dogmalike
>>741905749this
>>741906058thanks pal
>>741906058Bros, is that the moon behind the ur-dragon?...
eri looks weak to anal?
>the package includes the main game, even if you already own it on steamhave to wait til they fix it
>>741906308No, it's a blurry portal!
>>741906309>they made her cutecapcom may be haling
>>741906371>looks like a portal to spacewe're going to the moon, I believe
>>741906309>boob plateSo close to a 10/10. Still nice.
>>741906119isn't there an anon making an indie dd-like
bros im replaying dd2 in your experience what level do your pawn get most hires? I plan to use mod to set exp gain to 1 so that me and my pawn can stay low level for the dlc
>>741906829>boob plateFaggot detected.
>>741906874Yeah, project goblin. It got a demo that's actually pretty great
>>741907456Stop projecting
Kinoshits is trying to show Capcom he has what it takes to direct the series and take Itsuno's place, I doubt Capcom even gave him enough budget and a good team for this.I hope it sells well.
>>741901249man every day it gets harder and harder to feel bad for Itsuno
>>741907683He did direct a bunch of great games, even before his DMC 3 fame. He's just extremely autistic. He also left Capcom of his own volition to start a new studio, don't feel bad for him.
>>741904651>The complete package of DD2DA which includes the deluxe edition of the base game is a steal at $50>If you bought DD2 at release and the expansion later it costed you $100 ($70 + $30)Capcom, what the fuck, at least give us a discount for the expansion.
>confirmed no new BBI dungeon, instead the open world is the equivalentOkay, I gotta admit I'm a little sceptical, but I'm willing to keep an open mind. They've been presumably designing this area from the ground up with the BBI gameplay loop in mind, so it might work pretty well. Big issues the main game's open world had was the lack of a real loot incentive beyond just upgrade materials and the enemy variety and difficulty themselves. The relics solve the former issue and the other two may be remedied in this area.Gear seems like it can multiple skills on it, so that sounds like it'll be fun (and gacha hell).New dungeons are confirmed to be unique, so that's good. Could minotaurs always have that red glow on their head, or might that have been a new variant? Same with that drake. Main thing I'm a little disappointed to not see mentioned is any kind of increased difficulty mode for the base game. I won't hold out hope for it at this point. It might still be announced at a later date but it'll be a surprise to me.
>>741907658>act like a faggot>get called one>seethe about itYup. You're a fag alright.
>>741908087I mean, are they for real? I'll happily buy it now but at least give me SOME discount
>>741908115And you are an incel
>30€ for the expacyeah, nope
>>741908462Yeah gotta save your euro pennies in case there's a semen ration
>>741908531NTA but not giving us any discount is incredibly jewish. I was so fucking hyped and wanted to buy the second it dropped. but now I'm waiting for them to fix it
>>741905848nice dolphin porn encoding settings
Are they fixing the base game? Finishing the desert area and the making so you don't fight the same 4 enemies for 30 hours? I wouldn't minding grabbing the DLC, but I can't really play the slog that was the base game again unless they do something about it.
>>741906119>Souls gets copied because even indie devs can make soulslikesexcept all of those suck. Pretty much all of them are lacking something hell Fromsoft can barely recapture the magic of DeS of DaS1 themselvesthey only make them because souls is popular, that's the only reason. If DD was a big ticket seller they'd be making games like DD.
wheres the hard mode
>>741906309She is very cute, but my loyalty is to my pawn.
>>741897532dunno, something about the reveal trailer and how they talk about the additions seems fishy.like, they added 12 dungeons to the already existing areas, probably where the doors are. who's to say they're not gonna be one and done corridor affairs like the other dungeons in the game?also, nothing they showed of the new zone hinted towards dungeon crawling which is also a red flag, and at the same time they're making a big deal out of a couple of basic additions and changes. something about this doesn't seem right.and the free eternal ferrystone at the start of the game also suggests a sort of tone deafness because even if you hate the traveling on foot in dd, that's just about the most lame bandaid solution to the problem you could come up with
>>741897532can’t fucking wait bros!I have a strong feeling that its going to be a blast.
>>741906309Capcom really be like "AAAAAAAAAAA BREAK THE EMERGENCY CUTE WHITE GIRL GLASS!!!"
>>741900437>rather it barely had 4 or 5 while the first game at least had several in base gameDD1 has>watergod's altar>catacombs>abandoned quarry>shadow fort>bluemoon tower>blighted manse>soulflayer canyon>tainted mountain>everfall>BBI (yuge)So 10, counting DA.DD2 base game has:>waterfall cave>the mountain's secret>cavern of the forsaken>stormwind save>collapsed mine>trevo mine>ancestral chamber>forgotten tunnel>worldsend cavern+mountain shrine (it's 2 separate dungeons but they're right next to each other)>ancient battleground>guerco cavern>canyon cave>drabnir's grotto>mountain base cave>a bunch of little pocket caves and tombs, mostly in battahl, mostly just a couple of rooms each(caves end here)>windworn gully (sike there's a cave part)>coral snake's hideout (also has a cave part>dragonsbreath tower (has an optional cave part with the medusa)(okay caves end here for real)>misty marsh if you wanna count it>seafloor shrine if you wanna count it>the old library under vermund if you wanna count it>the short training course in nameless village if you wanna count itThe count goes over 20 depending on what you want to count. I guess the main issue is just that it's almost all caves and mines. I was honestly expecting the number to be lower, but nah, it actually has quite a few. And the the DLC will add the 12 we know about and then however many will be in Norgan. So you know what? Way better than you guys make it out.
>>741901249https://www.thegamer.com/dragons-dogma-2-director-explains-why-only-one-save-file-for-exploration/This?>clarified that Dragon's Dogma 2 does "give you more options" than the first game did, such as being able to load from the last inn you rested atwhat>Itsuno explained that the choice to have a single save file was purposeful and done to "encourage exploration", something you can't do if you have too much freedom and can save-scum whenever you want.So he wasn't even talking about character slots. In that sense they haven't really changed much.>It's worth noting that the original Dragon's Dogma let you change vocations once you'd finished the game, which meant that you didn't really need to restart for a new character as you could just respec whoever you were playing as.>once you'd finished the gameWhat a bullshit article.I never gave a fuck personally, backing up the save folder isn't hard.
>>741903843>Living Armor is the same but with magic knight and fighter animations...do they? They looked like different animations and attacks to me playing it just yesterday. They also behave very differently and have the whole armoured/unarmoured gimmick on top.
>>741906309Built for imprisoning in the sealing phial
We shooting rope boys
>>7419004372 actually had a lot of various caves and such, the issue was that they were absolutely tiny and usually only a few rooms at most. What 2 really needed was an actual, proper large-scale dungeon with a high amount of effort put into it, not 12 more tiny dungeons. I can only hope that all of these are not equal in size and maybe at least one of them is properly sized.
>I trust Kento Kinoshita with my life.He was the lead designer on dd2….so who knows? Whereas the lead designer on dd1da was Ryota Suzuki, who is now at Square Enix.Considering Kinoshita was the lead designer of DD2, I actually think it was Ryota Suzuka who got things back on track for DDDA1
>>741910083
>>741910083I actually think Capcom is downplaying the fuck outta this expansion and we are in for a yuuuuuge surprise.
>>741910083Do you think there will be a piss meter haha
>>741909637honestly I'd rather find and explore a bunch of tiny caves than a few huge glitchy onesespecially ones that aren't copypastas of each other, I actually found that the biggest annoyance of DD and DA
>>741910167
>>741910167>play DD:DA>play this in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnqPJv0UqKoholy kvno....
>>741909478Capcom's treatment of the base game was pretty bad. The negative response to microtransactions and performance killed the game overnight. It took them months to patch the game to improve the performance and then after that were tiny fixes and additions, like the cover art armor. They probably wanted to milk fans with MTX but scrapped the whole thing due to the feedback. Two and a half years later we're getting an expansion but as you say, there is already a feeling that its lacking. This could change as time passes.
>>741910183I want to believe too bruh
>>741910183You're doing it again anon. We lied to ourselves the whole time during 2's marketing. "No way there is only 9 vocations", "There will be loads of new monsters and enemies they haven't shown yet" etc. The best thing Capcom can do is show off all the new stuff to blow people away and get excited.
honest question: are we buyin? I feel they milk us with the 30 desubut I will buy it anyway, so..
>>741910418Bro the game sold 4 million, negative discourse around the game is because of fucking spergs spamming EVERYWHERE
>>741910384>emote dogma supports custom animations nowOh no, this really is just Skyrim all over again...
>>741910561I already pre-boughted it :)
>>741910561I will buy even if it's 60 burgers because I have aughtism.
>>741901249Ok but can we talk about how insanely soulful it is to have you and your pawn together on the save screen?>>741910561Yes, I am a bitch to DD. What can I say it scratches an adventure itch that nothing else can match.
>>741910745>>741910770fuck it, who am I kidding. I've waited for this for 2 years. thanks blastbros
Im wondering how they progression will be handled since its not a dungeon, in the dungeon you went deeper and deeper to get better stuff but harder enemies and it all resets when you beat the final boss and resets the layout of floors and encounters are different, how is that going to work in an open world map? Also whats the threat, the narrow confines of the dungeon were stalked by literal Death, Im hoping that dragon they show is this games equivelent since its outside now it can fit, that could be cool. One of its animations seems like it turns everything black and spawns hordes of zombies or something. Im cautiously optimistic. Im hoping for some more stuff in the way of character customization like a skin swapper or something so people can actually play dressup for sharing characters, the linear progression in a game about sharing characters is awful because everyone just wears the best in slot gear, or the same slutmog, I want to see people actually have something to work with. Monster Hunter did it they can do it with DD.
>>741901229I think you got it reversed
Unless this dlc has an actual effect on the ending of the main story its a waste of time.
FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKWe are never getting any difficulty option.It is the only issue with the game.
>>741910561No reason not to pirate it at this point, I'm not masochistic enough to get my hopes up for a DD3 that doesn't suck. And if Itsuno is the reason the second one got made, Capcom will probably just bury the IP after this anyway.
30 bucks means this will be fairly big right?
Where will the entrance to the dlc be?
>>741903459Can't believe Kinoshita had to rob a bank to develop Dogma Online...
>>741911193I know mods fix it but it would be nice to have everyone have that experience. Im hoping theres something for the DLC at least, if they say theyre listening this is one of the most spoken of things.>level cap is 999>theres no scaling or difficultyFucking insane, using mods to lock it at 60 so I can balance the game around that feels like the level cap shouldve been much lower, so THEY can balance the game around that.DD1 base game is stupidly easy but at least DD2 has mods. At the very least the enemy variety also means there is more to spread out across the whole game too.
>>741910974Well, I don't see why it would be any different? You can still go deeper and deeper horizontally into an area, especially with DD2's style of open world that's heavy on wide corridors that funnel through chokepoints, to the point where it already pretty much functions as one really big open-air dungeon. The difference ultimately might just end up being visibility.>Also whats the threat, the narrow confines of the dungeon were stalked by literal DeathThey haven't mentioned this so I don't expect this to actually happen, but in BBI necrophage enemies would mostly spawn out of thin air right in front of you. Maybe Norgan has a similar system? Or at least, it's out in the open air, which leaves potential for flying enemies to crash any party, even if it's not explicitly systematized like it was in BBI.
>>741910561I'm still going to buy it, but I'm a bit salty that people who waited got an amazing deal for the complete version of the game, $50 is an absolute steal.>>741908087
>>741911636Im not sure I like that though, dungeons have a cramped encounter style, its perpetually dark too so the vibes are different when youre wondering around dark corridors even if they are the same areas repeated. I think it might get very stale if your walking the same exact path over and over in an open map in the middle of broad daylight, it doesnt feel threatening at all, it looks pretty.
>>741911557I mean does the overkill cap even matter? The stat growth isn't linear, but you already melt most things around 70. Leveling isn't the issue.
>>741911660same, man. samebeing a DDchad truly is suffering
>>741897532I still liked the game as an open world fantasy action adventure. It's just the stupid fucking rehashed story and really not adding anything unique compared to the first game. Also unmoored world being completely fucking nothing.
>>741910019This
dragon's dogshit
>>741911557I'm just glad DD2 doesn't have the autistic need to minmax level progression to actually deal decent damage. I still don't really like the whole stats gained based on what class you are when you level shit. Makes it annoyingly micromanagy. At least you should be able to manually reduce your level to undo stat growth later on.
>>741912096shut up Matt
I maybe alone in this, but I like the "open" world or rather that its not just a literal corridor simulator like BBI. I like having an open sky above me with natural light, I'm not sure why dungeons are such a deal breaker when the original DD has what, 5 actual dungeons of any depth?
>>741911902Linear progression is the issue, in terms of gear you ramp exponentially and that if you play your favourite class and dont split stats your stats go through the roof very easily very quickly. Basically the game is balanced around level 30 in stats, but since your gear is a linear upgrade you can be level 30 but your gear is level 60, and your just blasting through enemies that dont stand a chance because the game has no way to actually account for you having better and better gear. Seems like NG+ really shouldve done something like >all enemies are balanced for as if you are using top end gear, but not the best gear, so you can still feel the difference>can just use lower level gear if you want some difficultyI never liked how DD1 or 2 handled levelling, should just let you allocate stats not by dictate by the class you were testing out and wasted 10 levels on.
>>741905842
>>741912224there were very little dungeons but they felt unique. DD2 has a ton of caves and that's it
I was one of the guys that actually liked Dragon's Dogma 2 enough to want a big expansion. I thought re-working some things like vocations, and adding some things like dungeons and enemies, would make the game legitimately great. I gave up on DLC after a whole year of silence. I was astonished when they reveal DA2. After this gameplay breakdown, I'm somehow even more astonished that they took two whole years to address literally none of the main complaints about the base game, and despite calling it DA, aren't even adding a well-crafted mega dungeon. In hindsight, this is definitely the funniest thing that could have happened.
so who's the Dark Arisen? That new fluffy hair wife?
>>741912224DD2's fucking dark for some reason. I can't see goddamn shit.
>>741912713You broke the cycle, so you’re a dark arisen. But she’s a Dark Arisen Too
>>741912635to me the only ones that felt unique are Soulflayer Canyon, Bluemoon Tower, and where you fight the dragon.
Will it actually be worth leveling up past 60 now?
>12 new "dungeons" (single room with ONE enemy)>new hairs and tattoos as "major element">no moonHeh... It looks like I take the W this time, L...
>>741912224Me too, I liked the ambiance of an actual travel, actual light, actual weather, actual night. The problem with DD2 is that there are goblins every 10 meters even on the road.
>>741912224A "dungeon" doesn't necessarily have to be fully indoors, people just want more deliberate levels with lots of parts to explore and a well thought out layout. The more open areas are still fun but the game needs an actual destination to explore. Dungeons were a part of the first game but they were also pretty small which is exactly why I wanted Capcom to improve on them instead of just giving us nunerous small caves. Dungeon crawling is very much part of the classic fantasy RPG trope as well and the combat and systems in DD are simply very good for it. What Elden Ring did is essentially what I really wanted in the sense that it's open world but actually has these large legacy dungeons as enticing areas to explore within the open world. I don't want Capcom to copy everything From does of course but I did want them to look at how they're capable of making these meaty large dungeons.
are the 12 dungeons meant to be solo arisen only or am i misunderstanding something>each one is shown with a single person in it>"take on challenges with your unique character"
I cant wait!
>>741906829They should've just given her a single boob bubble like pic related
>>741912846Watergod Altar is pretty unique, and you could throw in the catacombs there as well
>>741913312You probably bring pawns like normal they were just hyping up the build element of that game
>>741901249>normalholy fuckkk, that means hard mode, right?
>>741908753It's just MP3 and MP4...?
>>741913649or it means easy mode which is already in the game and gives them reason to clarify which mode a file is on
I got to the first underground castle area mission in dragons dogshit after you retards said just stick with it for a bit it gets amazing. Pushed for hours to try and find the magic you guys said was there. In the end I realised that the only retard here was me listening to /v/ who are likely vaxxed troons and third worlders. If you like this game honestly you have zero taste. Look at your life and just change everything because something went wrong.
>>741911472Isn't Norgan to the north? My guess is that hill near the sorc family's house
>>741913864you are meant to disconnect from this site and everything around you and focus only on the game with no distractions how this is hard to grasp from some is mind numbing. there's a reason why people leave this place and go in fully blind that's a you problem.
>>741897532He saved DD1 so there is a chance. I doubt it though.
>>741913864We got another one, boys!!
>>741913985for what it's worth there's an all white griffin at the start of the trailer so presumably you fly in on that
>>741913412Between your post and the one you're replying to you've named literally every dungeon in the game lol
Never understood the hate for DD2 personally. Both games excel at different things, the only thing that really bummed me out about 2 was how vocations worked compared to 1 but overall it's still a fantastic game. I'm just looking forward to more content.
>>741912645>I'm somehow even more astonished that they took two whole years to address literally none of the main complaints about the base gameSeveral of the main complaints are being addressed. Performance, for one. The 4 skill limit, for another. More dungeons too. Gear upgrades only being found in shops, also addressed.Really the complaints that aren't explicitly being addressed are the minority. No hard mode or some other solution to the difficulty falling off. Not enough enemy variety in the base game. What else? Music?
>>741897532you can't fix an inherently fucked foundation. only hope is to just abandon this garbage game and fire up the ddo servers again and move all production to that game instead
>>741914873Actually, that's not true. See >>741909637
>>741914932Dogshit changes to the vocation system(Lack of advanced and hybrid vocations, locking vocations past 50% completion mark, splitting strider and ranger, useless illusionist vocation, among other complaints)Enemy varietyDungeons lack dapth and varietyIncomplete end gameThe 3rd area/kingdom/whatever being extremely linear, underutilized, and smallThose are all huge complaints with a massive impact on enjoyment of the game
>>741915075The only ones on this list I'll grant are the quarry and the seiged fort. The others are end game/dlc/main quest areas
>no bbi>no endless tower>no moonit's over
I get the concept behind Warfarer, and yeah it could be really cool but its so... not fun compared to a full vocation. Like I'd rather go back to playing Warrior or MS
>>741915342It was a cop out and simply a much lamer version of the assassin
>>741915182Oh fair, I forgot about the story and endgames.The story won't be addressed, obviously. The endgame, assuming Norgan is a high level/endgame area, is being addressed.Vocations aren't a flaw of a game, they're a matter of preference. It's not bad just because it's not what you wanted, and it's only an issue for people who had expectations already from 1. The vocation system works just fine in 2, and has plenty of variety and options. It doesn't need additions, even if it would be nice.Dungeons has already been addressed.The 3rd area is just an extension of Battahl, same as Dragonsbreath tower. It's not any more linear than Vermund or Battahl, just smaller, because it's only really a large sub-area of Battahl. It even connects directly to the capital of Battahl. This isn't a flaw, why would it even need addressing to start with?
>>741912134You didnt need to on the first game, that was your own brainworms.
>>741915279That list leaves out Witchwood too, so you can add that on as well. The Cassardis sewer too, if you wanna count it.
Imagine they try to sell this DLC for $60 since base games now go for $100.
>>741915690Forgot about the sewer as well tbf
>>741915618>The vocation system works just fine in 2I hate playing anything but Thief in DD2 whereas I enjoyed small spurts of playing of all the classes in DD1
Reminder:
>no new vocationsWe're never going to play alchemist again, are we?
>>741915817we already know it's 30, it's up for pre-orderthere's a bundle for both that's 50
>>741915834So as I said, it's a matter of preference. This isn't a real flaw of the game that truly needs addressing like actual objective issues like the game's performance or a functional number of available skill slots or the method of attaining gear upgrades and increasing your character's power.
>>741910083I think this might be one of the most interesting parts of the expansion to me. I really want a death stranding + fantasy adventure game where traversal itself is a big part of gameplay and DD2 is almost getting there with stuff like the campaign to replenish total health
dreamed the capcom showcase when i woke up too early and went back to bed>new vocation, was called "Votary" or something, it was just sorcerer except it specialized in air and earth magic specifically>new fighter skill that looked a mystic knight skill (channelled swords around them with a chant which then flew off and hit people, different elemental enchantments caused different spell effects like a burst of fire etc)>fighter variant who couldnt use normal healing but was covered in red dragon-like skin
>>741916191Don't let your expectations get the best of you, that rope could just as well be a static object in the world and not an indicator of vertical travel anywhere you want.
>>741916191I think it's safest to assume they're just pre-placed in the environment. Functionally just a ladder. But we'll see.
>>741916332>>741916318I'm full expecting it to be static, but it tickles the autism
What's to get excited about? It's getting kneecapped because it has to work on the Series S and Shitch 2 now.
>>741897532I hope it changes enough about the base game for my actual playthrough.
>>741909637Biggest problem with DD2 is enemy variety.
>>741916035>it's a matter of preferenceWhich wasn't an issue with the previous system. People played DD1 classes for over a decade and loved them, DD2 has been out for only two years and people are begging for new ones. I don't expect Capcom to change anything about the vocation selection in DD2 because I'm not the guy you originally replied to but there's a reason DD fans bailed on DD2 and are only coming back because an expansion is being dropped while the devs tout that it was built on fan feedback.
>>741914932>Really the complaints that aren't explicitly being addressed are the minority. Not enough enemy variety in the base game.See I really thought this or the goblin spam would be complained about enough that they'd change it, but there's not even a "reduced density of which goblins spawn" in either patch. I don't expect them to rework the entire armor system or vocations but enemy variety and density absolutely could've been altered.
>>741915834i hated playing anything but sorc in dd1 whereas i like archer, warrior and sorc in dd2works on my machine
>>741897532more like kinoSHITA
>>741898020Itsuno specifically ignored feedback because he's thinks as the auteur he knows better
>>741916892Explain the differences between the classes in both games and why you prefer things in DD2
>>741897532>Due to ongoing engine issues with the new updates, Chimera, Minotaur, and Dullahan enemy types will be removed from the game.
>>741915834Sounds like you just miss daggers being on half the vocations so just put them on Warfarer and you're good.Nonetheless, shit taste.
>reskins>no new vocations>no big BBI-like dungeonfool me once
>>741917239>Sounds like you just miss daggers being on half the vocationsThat doesn't explain why I don't mind playing Red and Blue vocations that don't have them in DD1
>>741917207>Added chance that your Pawn gets pregnant when returning from another worldHuh?
post pawns
>>741897532Currently playing 1 for the first time, just got to the part where the city fell in a hole.Insanely, unfathomably kino. God I wish I had played this shit when I was a teenager who listened to dragonforce. Everything about it blows my mind. The scale of the magic, fighting a dozen guys at once and flinging them around, the destructable environments, secrets everywhere, loli pawn dress up, the cinematography of the cutscenes put every sony walking sim to shame. I mean holy cow how can anyone play skyrim after this?Anyway are the bait threads true? Is 2 really as bad as they say? It's a little sad to hear.
>>741917407Well you explain it then, because so far you sound like an enormous retard.>it's bad because I just don't like it for some reason, okay?Peak criticism.
>>741917271>>741901013>>741904095Have they specifically stated no new vocations with a postable source or are you just parroting some random anons statement which is dumb as fuck and how retards got tripped up by the MTX
I'm the only person in the world that is genuinely upset that there is no physical version with the base game and the expansion on disc.I know they didn't do that with RE 8, RE 4 R, and MH Rise, but I was hoping this would be different. I'm dead inside.
>>741917607Yeah DD2 is not as good as DD1.
>>741916786>Which wasn't an issue with the previous system. People played DD1 classes for over a decade and loved themIt wasn't an issue because there was no prior entry to compare it to. It being good does not mean 2's is bad, even if you prefer 1's.
>>741897532>Ctrl+F vocationNoThe only Crapcom fans eating well are the ones the new engine was made for (Resident Evil).Monster Hunter and Dragon's Dogma are dead.
>>741917625DD2 is super jank. You slide around on terrain, there's tons of extraneous animations slowing down the actions you take, there's less variety in skills because you can only pick 4 and the "new" vocations get boring because of it. Imagine thinking any of this had to do with 2/3rds of DD1's vocations not being able to use daggers.
>>741915936Alchemist is fucking cringe, and I don't get why anons keep shilling this one single vocation over and over.
>>741917915Go back to the discord you goddamn rat.
>>741917965because it's not actually cringe and it's cool
>>741917607DD1 still has some DMC DNA in it, while 2 makes an effort to have more of its own identity.
>>741917846>It being good does not mean 2's is badBut it can be bad in comparison, and most people agree that it is. Why try to "fix" what isn't broken?
>>741917739you're right, there's actually a couple of secret new vocations that they aren't showing off just like in the pre-release media for the base game
>>741917739They haven't stated "no new vocations", no. What they've said is that there's new skills for existing vocations. You can safely assume there are not new vocations by this point.
>>741917739You're doing it again, inventing things to get excited about when nothing points it its existence. They're shilling hairstyles as major content, temper your expectations bud.
>>741917959>there's tons of extraneous animations slowing down the actions you takeThe only thing here that might not apply to Thief. Not saying much.
>>741917965It was fun to play.
>>741897843>I'm still gonna buy it, though.
>>741917503Best I've got.
>>741918029I don't think "the vocations suck" was a common complaint. Again, people who had prior expectations from 1 might have said that, but not everybody. And, for the third time, this is a subjective issue. There isn't any actual functional issue with the vocations that make them suck except trickster & warfarer lol, you just wish they were more like how 1 handled it because that's your preference.
>>741916332>>741916509>DD has laddersBethesda in shambles
>>741918059>You can safely assume there are not new vocations by this point.Assume makes an ass out of me and you. Just stop the power trip and not dish out definitive statements.>>741918062>to get excited aboutLiterally that is the exact trash you are trying to pull. We dont know what the full scope of the expansion is so dont act like an authority with hard answers just because it wasnt fully dumped. Logic like that states we wont get new music or a new plotline.
>>741909637I'm tired of caveslop and fighting the same 4 enemies
>>741918484you were a color theorist leading up to 2's release, weren't you?
>>741918095Thanks for verifying the problems are gamewide. I never claimed Thief isn't subject to them, it's simply the only vocation where I don't mind dealing with those issues because I enjoy the skills it has.
>>741918318>trickster & warfarerMy two most used vocations lmaoNot to say they're without problems, but I liked them well enough. Frankly speaking they're a lot more unique than shit like Assassin from 1
>>741918484Actually, new music is in the trailer and a new plotline is in the image I posted (and the trailer).You're gonna be disappointed again.
>dd2da reveal at nintendo direct>capcom usa stream afterwards that summarizes recent announcements but says nothing new>capcom showcase that shows dd2da but again says nothing newplease more pointless showcases reiterating that dd2da exists i love them can we get a third
>>741917747Wait WHAT?! There isn't going to be a physical disc version?!
>>741918664Trickster is a great change of pace. It's still fucking funny having a Chimera launch itself 300 meters off a cliff trying to chase your weed ghost.
>>741918718trust the plan
>>741918484We can only go off of what they have said is in the game, dude.
>>741917607>Is 2 really as bad as they say?Story sucks. Empty world aside from the exact same groups of enemies you run into every five feet. Vocations are gimped compared to DD1 and combat feels a lot worse.Had ten years to improve and shat out a sidegrade at best.>>741917739Don't play yourself like this.>>741917975>using discordI have standards, kid.I remember when Capcom made good games (like DD1) on a good engine (MT Framework). RE Engine fucking sucks, as did the shitshow of DD2.
>>741918620Not verifying anything, you just didn't say why the vocations sucked specifically, and those complaints are still stupid vague.Skill slot limit is obviously a fair one and has already been brought up by everyone and their mother, but it's not really an issue of individual vocation design per se. And it's an easy thing to mod in case you wanted a solution and not just to be mad.
will we get to Norgan through one of the northern caves, will we take a boat there?
>>741918752Problem with trickster is I don't want to have to chase every monster off cliffs to loot their shit.
>>741918937griffin from the north taxi servicenotice how its wings are white while most griffins have brown wingsalso that the teaser letter mentioned sightings of griffins from the north
>>741918728Did you watch the video with your eyes open? We did see new info. They never said there'd be "new" variations of enemies in the 12 dungeons, but the video did show a couple of reskinned enemies. They didn't say what the actual gameplay loop of this expansion was on announcement, and they clarified in this video that the BBI dungeon crawling is out in the open world.
>>741918318>I don't think "the vocations suck" was a common complaintPeople were definitely complaining about Trickster, almost no one talks about Magick and regular Archer outside of the specific enemy exploits you can do with the former. Everything else suffers from the aforementioned reduction of skills except Warrior which only really exists so people can pretend to be a really slow Guts. Spearhand was the only notable new inclusion because it had fancy skills but I feel like most people just defaulted to old vocations the longer they played the game.>for the third time, this is a subjective issueless skill slots isn't subjective
>>741918941Fair enough. I've been using the randomizer for so long that I kind of forgot how scarce boss materials actually are. Losing out on something like Goreminotaur parts because it did a 900 straight into the water would be awful.
>>741918837>those complaints are still stupid vague much like when I asked someone to qualify why they thought the DD2 versions of vocations were better and were never heard from again
>>741919174>less skill slots isn't subjectiveBut it's already been addressed. They increasing the limit to 6 total skills, for every vocation. Like people were asking for. So why are you claiming they haven't addressed ANY of the complaints?
>>741918941NTA but that's not the only way to play it, especially mixing it with Warfarer
>>741919298>But it's already been addressed. They increasing the limit to 6 total skillsWow, it's almost as if that was overwhelmingly something that fans of the previous game preferred or something>why are you claiming they haven't addressed ANY of the complaintsWhere did I say that? My issue is with how DD2 was released.
>>741919321Sure, but without using any of the environmental shit, trickster boils down to press the "buff pawns" button and press the "Stun enemies" button and then just waiting for enemies to die.I'm being reductionist of course, you can still get enemy aggro and trick them into hitting your clone and that's fairly active and engaging, but in terms of actually killing enemies you're pretty damn limited and that's the whole point.
>>741919321you are using cheats to equip more skills
>>741919424If you didn't say that then sorry. This is a reply chain that started with a guy claiming they addressed NONE (0) of the complaints people had with the game and me pointing out that they addressed quite a lot of them, including the skill limit. We were talking about vocations as a separate issue from the skill limit.
>>741912645>I was one of the guys that actually liked Dragon's Dogma 2 enough to want a big expansion.Even with my complaints ITT I would have been onboard with a DLC that fleshed out the Tower/Everfall/BBI endless dungeon idea and had the pre-release vocation chart we'd theorized, or at least approached something like it.DD2: Iceborne isn't what I wanted at all, but hopefully DD2 fans can enjoy it.
>>741919528Isn't that just the light and heavy attacks?
>>741917607it's not bad, just a disappointing sequel
>>741917607>the destructable environmentsThe what?
>>741917607>Is 2 really as bad as they say?yeah, but the first like 10 hours are really fun because you still don't know how empty the world is and how many times you will fight the same 3 or 4 packs of enemies. Story and characters also are a big downgrade.
>>741919037guess the locked doors in the elven caves are nothing
>>741919528>>741920005It's the True Warfarer mod, but I did play most the game before it was even a thing. Only other mods I had on were the added difficulty mods and setting my lvlXP gain to like x0.2I'm still kinda baffled it's not in the game by default lol>>741917607NahI replayed 1 recently and found DD2 a lot more fun
>>741920856>guess the locked doors in the elven caves are nothingyou're meant to trick a skeleton into breaking the wood on the other side at nightit makes a shortcut
>>741918164Hey, at least they showed the gameplay before the pre-order.
>>741921107not that one, and I think you can break that with a Hagol. There's some half buried elven doors that reddit was speculating would be dlc area or something
>>741921326Those are most likely the 12 dungeons being added to the base game.
>>741921326like, separate from the godsbane logo doors here? >>741921414i don't remember seeing those at all
>>741897532>new trailer>still only reskins of enemies shown>no word on a hard modeeh. probably won't buy it until it's on deep sale. if it's good. so maybe not ever.
Chances of them releasing more updates after Dark Arisen?
>>741921776some minor fixes here and there and dd3 in 10 years
>>741921709"Hard mode" in DD1 just made the game easier. I dont get the obsession. Besides even if it was added do you really wanna rage because the boosted encounter rate spawns in more Goblins that stun lock you to death?
>>741921776Beyond bugfixes? Low or nil.
>>741906309not the best angle, looks cuter in the trailers
>>741900474No they're not, they're specifically listed as content for Dark Arisen.
>>741910083Day of rope climbing is upon us
They should remove denuvo so my rtx3060 ass could run it.
>>741921776Yes We're getting monster hunter like title update but for new dungeons with some new enemies Also expect a mhwilds collaboration next year
>>741897532Remove all the DEI crap and make it more like the original. Also fire all women working at capcom.
>>741922546That ship has long sailed. Won't be returning until all of israel is glassedhttps://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/management/esg.htmlCheck the archive for this page for lols
>>741922610You mean until all women and feminists are fired. Israelian games have no issue showing sexy girls and chicks as seen with games like Raid.
>>741922794Their policy is and always was "it's okay when we do it".
>>741922894You are silly.
>>741923102I am silly, but what's that got to do with the topic at hand?
more like CringeOSHITaDD was never good
>>741923196Nah I'm just saying you are fucking retarded. Feminists are buttfucking you and all you can think of is "it's israel's fault!".
>>741897532Why didn't they at least re use assets from DMC, MH or even RE to make more enemies? Surely it isn't that hard right?
>>741923290I didn't say that nor do I think it. I just threw in my 2c. Maybe feminists are fucking us too, there's room for more than one boot in my ribs.
>>741897532>game is average>non-Itsuno DLC makes it genuinely good>sequel is average>non-Itsuno DLC makes it genuinely goodI still don't understand how he took steps BACKWARDS from the first Dark Arisen
>>741923463>>non-Itsuno DLC makes it genuinely goodAre you from the future? Explain this.
>>741922794No. I said what I meant, you fucking goyim.
>>741922794who created feminism in the first place nigger for brains? Who is sending niggers and muzzies to EU and West in the first place? HIAS and hundreds of other jewish ngos all traffic and fund niggers into our countries to destabilize them. You're one short sighted niggercattle or a kike yourself.
>>741923752It's called pattern recognition. kinoshita made dragons dogma online, the private servers of which are still running and amazing-got nearly 200 hours out of it. Kinoshita also directed Dark Arisen in first, so him doing it again in dd2 is likely to fix many things.
>>741923752it's made by the same guyeven if he just adds back in the features from Dark Arisen 1 that didn't get into the base game it's already better than what we got
>>741897532>modders out significantly more effort into enemy reworks, difficulty, loot changes, spawns, vocations etc etc.>Crapcum is giving us ice region and enemies with red eyes with some dungeonsLol
>>741923290>all you can think of is "it's israel's fault!".Coz it is you numbnut licker
>>741924094A pattern of one? One singular example does not a pattern make.
NO CO-OP = NO ONE CARES>NO CO-OP = NO ONE CARESNO CO-OP = NO ONE CARES>NO CO-OP = NO ONE CARESNO CO-OP = NO ONE CARES>NO CO-OP = NO ONE CARES
>>741924586What comes after one and two? Yes, it's a linear slope, a pattern from two points.
>>741924626Okay fair I responded before I saw you were talking about DDO but still, an MMO is a different beast.
>>741917739
Just had lunch and took a piss with Kinoshita. Don't tell him I sent you this.
Let this man direct his own Dragon's Dogma game, instead of cleaning up Shitsuno's mess for a second time.
>>741925246I remember getting shat on here for saying that we're probably not getting all colours, let alone any extra vocations not already revealed.
>>741917965t. dogshit 2 baby
>preorder armor is out at the same time as the expansionoh i thought it'd be like, when the game was pre-orderableso it'd be a cool little teaser ahead of time and not like dogshit starting armor you'd find in 5 minutes of playing the dlc you just paid for
>>741916191Capcom insider here. You walk around the wall and release the rope at designated spots, just like in Dark souls. You guys like DS, right?
>>741925246this was such insane wasted potentialwhat the fuck was even the point of new and revamped vocations if it's mostly just the same shit as before and the new one was ass
>>741925682I do like DS, and 2 already had that with ladders in some areas.
>>741925357I always thought that getting at least advanced yellow/green/pink/purple wouldn't be too unreasonable. The latter two colors being advanced-only would make sense as presumably you'd only unlock them in Battahl, and why would there be unlockable basics?
>>741925906We at least need advanced yellow and green. It's bizarre only red and blue have them.
>>741900925Your attitude about this is ruining gaming. It’s such a retarded
>>741925246The fucking t-shirt reveal destroyed literally every single vocation tard on /v/
>>741925969Yellow and blue has MA and green didn't exist in 1. But you're right, really there should be green/X hybrids.
>>741925906>>741926793 (me)Oh wait, advanced. My bad.Yeah I'm with you there.
>>741923463This is a trend with most Capcom games (that get DLC/versions)just look at reception for base games like SF4, almost ANY MonHun, compared to after the expansionOften times the director of the base game is doing 1000 new things many of which are unpolished or don't work that well.The expansion team then focuses mostly on the things people liked and fixing some complaints, while ignoring the extraneous stuff people didn't like
>>741927006Brother, where's your 100k RC that you're sitting on?
Insane how many franchise shitsuno rapedI will never forgive him for turning dmc into a mindless juggleslop
>brand new skills instead of the boring skill upgrades in Dark Arisen 1>theyre all locked to weapons so you cant play with them before the dlcFucking idioticI just want Brontide on my sorcerer>cold biome so no new lewd outfits to dress my pawn in
>>741924430Keep coping.
>people who paid full price on release are getting fuckedno discount for early adopters is a bitch move, Capcom
>>741927797You'll keep being raped with that attitude. Not my problem though LMAO.
>>741927992You are fucking retarded ok.
Test
>no new vocationsSad
>>741897532It will be another 7/10 "cult classic" like Dark Arisen 1, maybe slightly less beloved.One of those games that you don't hate if you buy them under $20 but don't really love either.So yeah, this is just DD1 all over again.
>>741928304I love Dark Arisen thoughever
>>741900840>that haircutYikes.
>>741906119>.webm
>goyim slopma
>>741928660and he ranso far away
>>741909215The originals suck as well, the "magic" was novelty.
>>741913649There's a casual mode already. Hope they add hard mode tho.
Have the patched or added anything the last six months?
>>741931335nope, kek
>>741931335https://www.dragonsdogma.com/2/en-us/topics/update/
>>741918484>people unironically convincing themselves that their are more vocations we aren't being told about>AGAINI'm actually laughing my ass off. The butthurt on DD2 release after months of >>741918814was already hysterical.
Mystic Knight sisters... is there any hope?
>>741931838No
>>741931761ThisThey didn't mention ANYTHING about new vocationsAll you get are new skills
>>741917503My beautiful Irish wife
I hope we get new pawn personalities
>>741932561
>>741931838ANY hope? Maybe Mystic Knight skills will be repurposed for Fighter or Mystic Spearhand since they're bringing back skills like Downpour Volley and Brontide. I could see Stone Grove/Forest, Demonspite/wrath and Holy Wall/Fortress making it back as Fighter skills. Could have permanently-enchanted shields so you can use Enchanted Counter more readily. Magick Shields models are used for regular shields and Maces are just a fighter weapon type, so more of those will probably appear. Between that and 6 skill wayfarer you can bootleg a mystic knight.HOPE in the form of "the entire vocation is back"? 0.
No loli, no buy
>>741932851This is a distinct possibility. Something like Magic Cannon would fit like a glove on Mystic Spearhand too.
>>741931429why lie?
>>741932851There was some mystic shield looking skills in the latest one where he flings people back with a glowing shield. But they were talking about certain weapons having very powerful magical properties.
>>741917503>>741918240>>741932561Post codes.
>>741933403This shield parry sends back one person and staggers another, yeah. Though it might just be Flawless Guard EX or something. We know there's EX Skills and new skills, at least.
6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED>6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED>6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED>6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED>6 WEAPON SKILL SLOTS CONFIRMED
>>741933694We've known about this since the day the dlc was announced anon
>>741933802sorry i'm employed
I wonder if they quietly changed the sliders
>>741917607>Is 2 really as bad as they say?Mods fix a lot of the gameplay to make it more like DD1, but the bland story and characters aren't something that can be fixed with mods.
>>741917607DD1 has always filtered itself, the first few hours the game feels like it's actively fighting against you in a way but once you settle into the groove of things it's genuinely fucking incredibleand honestly 2 is just mediocre, a step backwards and kinda boring comparatively
>>741901249>chud itsuno says multiple saves too hard and breaks gameHe said nothing about multiple character saves, retard.
>>741933861Its not gonna happen.You can download a mod to reduce minimum height to 140cm and it wont even ban your pawn from online but the issue is that the head will be way too small. You cant make a small character with a big head presumedly to stop people from making loli pawns.All I fucking wanted was to make my goblin pawn from DD1 but faggots had to ruin it for me.
>KINOshita>kinoSHITaIt's most likely going to be the latter
>>741916191Yeah no way in hell it's like Death Stranding. Those ropes are just gonna be pre-placed shortcuts.
>>741897532So DD2 is actually getting an expansion?Anyway, original game was a cult classic, but DD2 is just more of the same late by a decade when the first one was already not great.I have zero interest in the new one.
>>741918062do both the dlc and the august update add hairstyles?
>>741903459>Why spend years making a new Dragon's Dogma when you could probably make 3 Resident Evil games with the same manpower that will sell better?Because while they're winning in popularity now, Nu RE games are competing with every other AAAslop game. There's been a void left for 'Skyrim 2' for ever a decade. The closest thing to Skyrim so far was BOTW, and that obviously sold fairly well.
>>741933960>bland story and charactersso just like DD1 you meanthe unmoored world is cooler than the everfall thoughDD1's only edges out a win here because it has the She-Goat and Selene. At least DD2 has Menella
>>741918062>inventing things to get excited about when nothing points it its existenceYou're right. The DLC doesn't exist bros...
>>741934352>The closest thing to Skyrim so far Crimson desert?
They waited until pretty close to release to unveil Warfarerm-maybe theyll do it again with a new vocation haha
>>741934484I don't want new vocation Just give me more enemies other than goblin, cyclops and bandits
>>741934484That one wasn't even a new vocation.It was just there to combine other vocations
>>741934419Basically just a single player Black Desert.It does have the only good game engine made in the past decade though.
>>741934526What about wolves, arisen?
>>741934352>Nu RE games are competing with every other AAAslop game.There's barely any competition, the last Uncharted game was literally 10 years ago. Those sort of cinematic AAA linear singleplayer games have unironically started becoming rare.
>>741897532have you guys noticed that all these capcom devs look like the same guy?
>>741934795>All chink looks same wtf!!
>>741897532The game could be Kino!The game could be Shit.or the game could be Kino Shit! Did Hideo Kojima make this fucking guy?
>>741934549>Basically just a single player Black Desert but without the character customization or the cool classes, and full of elements copied from relatively recent popular games instead of just being classic gookjankEven if it meant it'd be worse in some areas, I fucking wish it was just singleplayer BDO. It was comfy just going through the areas and fighting shit back in 2015, but I could never be bothered to gookgrind all the way to endgame.
>>741934526There! Saurians!
>>741934795Aging japanese westaboos? Yes, they're a type.
>>741921574You haven't run across these? Not once?
>>741934261nah
>>741934215Yeah. It’s worth messing around with, but not lighting in a bottle like the original. Just another monster hunter or whatever.
>>741935680Those have the Godsbane door logo underneath the rubble, I'm aware of those. I was wondering if there was a different type I was unaware of.
AXE AXE AXE AAAAAAAAAAA
>>741902738>all 12 challenge dungeons seem to be single room arenas where you fight base game reskinsNot really I looked in with freecam and they seem to be a bit bigger, like the average ingame dungeon
>>741897972nigger just fucking play it RIGHT NOW
>>741936535Also, why would they call it a "dungeon"
>>741917503
RE Engine was such a fucking mistake.
>>741936858This game looks fucking great. No idea what you're talking about.
>>741936273Yeah I posted in haste, sorry.
Why is no one keen for the new axe weapon type? Fighter was missing a good axe. Fuck I love axes.
>>741937065Cos it'll just be a reskinned sword.
>>741937065don't play fighter, simple 'ascool that they're in and everything
>>741937065>new axe weapon type
>>741937101>The running attack is going to be a thrust with an axeAre you actually retarded? If anything it'll be a reskinned mace that does cutting damage.
>>741937152Big difference.
>>741937149fighter has a 1-handed axe in some of the footage, none of the base DD2 fighter weapons were axes
>>741937221It's just gonna use the sword moveset like mace does. It's not a new weapon type.
>>741897532>0 new anything shown>The area shown in all the trailers is literally the same all the timehmmmmm
>>741937360They showed rope climbing althoughbeitdoe
>>741937284Sword and mace have different move sets. I think only the r1 mash is the same.
>>741937471poggers
>>741936913lollmao
Ever since the update my pawn has been unable to use silence competently. Did they break the AI?
>>Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (What?)>>Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Come on)>>Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin' (Yeah)>>Keep rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'
>>741937710>That cave between Battahl and the Volcanic Isle where they've purposefully placed them to knock you off cliffs
>>741937937It's literally scripted to fuck you up.Hits you through the thief-thing and fighter-block. Nothing short of getting the fuck outta the way will send you flying to your death.
>>741917503its an old one when I hadn't fine tuned the graffix yet
It took me so long to get around to playing DD2 that eventually a better version of it is coming out lol.
>>741915028live DDO had fucked monetization and systems designed solely to annoy you into spending money, you really don't want capcom back at the helm.
>fans unironically repeating the exact same mistakes they made before the base game's release, thinking that they're totally just not revealing all the new vocations, monsters and other content so it's a surprise at launch!It's just asking for disappointment. Don't expect anything more than the 3 "major" things they've announced, you'll have a better time with the DLC and not feel like an idiot when what we get is exactly what they said we'd get. The fact that they're marketing hair & tattoos as major should be enough to set your expectation level.
>>741937710they give me fat ugly bastard vibes
Really want to replay the game but the august update looks sweet
>>741897532censored slop no loli pawn no buy
>>741938896I'm hype for exactly what I expect to get tho. There are new skills, we will be able to use 6 of them, the dungeon portals in the open world are opening and there's a new nordic area to explore and a sick castle thing. My largest concern due to it being completely absent from any promo material, is the absence of slutwear.
>>741901736>Red eyes Dullahan
>>741903165>only play warrior in DDA>only play warrior in DDO>only play warrior in DD2>will only play warrior in DD2DAnot my problem
>>741937710
>>741903903I'm not even convinced its the engine, MH Rise and Wilds are on the same engine and they let Wilds rot away with 0 content for months when all they had to do is make new textures for Rise monsters and hit import
>>741939826Wilds got many new monsters and difficulty expansions what the fuck are you talking about
>>741915936>positioning/fundamental overwriting invulnerability slopnow i understand why people keep saying they want this class in dd. these people are souls tards who need every other game to also be souls
>>741939396>My largest concern due to it being completely absent from any promo material, is the absence of slutwear.more generally i'm afraid it'll all be winter shit, fur coats and whatnot
>>741939616Ugly
>>741939616Debra Wilson?
>>741940040I'll take winter Gyaru, hot pants with fur lined bras and big fuzzy boots.
>>741940007>invulnerability slopYou already had this in 1 btw. Escape / Exodus Slash and Full moon Slash both had I frames. In fact, for Warriors, the optimal strategy was to just I frame through every attack with Exodus Slashes.
>>741897532>KinoshitaHow come when people read his name they only focus on the KINO and not the SHIT
Hire my pawn!4ZB1NAH0BXB1
>>741917965Online is only good for early and mid gamethe end-game turns into one shot garbage where you're forced to perfectly learn a monsters move set so you can spam i-frames to never get hit while you beat on it for 10 minutes straight.
>>741939992are you really going to pretend Wilds didn't have a content issue
>>741940282you're leaving out the A so his name means he constantly shits out kino thus kino SHITA
>>741940282He is Kinoshita. He shits kino
>>741940310I would say 99% of wilds problems aren't the amount of content seeing as to how it's still shit even after they added monsters
I fear I must stray from the topic of our conversation to inform you that.. The pawn here are all men!
>>741897972you wont like them, DD1 is like a mix of skyrim and dmc but only taking the worst aspects of both, there are some small moments where you can see the potential the game had but it never materializes into anything good. DD2 is the same game but worse somehow, they really thought that a bigger map with the same 5 types of enemies would be enjoyable...
>>741940358>>741940391Kek
>>Jump off a high ledge while own pawn waits>>they catch you>>the 2 hired pawns try the same>>Splat!>>Splat!heh
The Dragons Dogma experience
>>741941028... would be having a group of loli pawns around a buff man.DD2 doesn't have that though
>>741941117We will never get small pawns again, it was a different timejust be happy there is the diversity removal mod
>>741940484Yumerisen...
warrior fucks
>>741940282His shit speaks for itself. They're all pretty kino. Until now...
>>741941605>Saurians not immune to deep waterIt's the little disappointments
>>741941774It ain't the water that kills them thougheverbeitered.
My pawn will surely catch m-ACK
>>741941923Whatever, they were unique. Made sense you couldn't cheese them as easily since most of them spawned or hid near water.
>>741942024what a gaffe
>>741941923The brine is such a weird conceptIt doesn't kill fishes but other beings that enters deep water...
>>741940007Daggers literally have iframe dodgerolls in 1.
>>741917503Seems I never took any screenshots outside the cc and too lazy to boot the game up to do so
>>741942402the pathfinder KNEELS to the fishthe fish control the cycle - the flow! - of the universe
>>741897532Norgan stand for 'no' 'organ'? No heart? Is that how they feel about the series?
>>741943073look at the big fucking dragon the god damn cover art
>>741943281I noticed it the first trailer. Capcom still has no heart for this series despite their claims of DD being a 'core IP'.
Now is your chance, /v/!
>>741940286Damn, I should have checked these threads before doing Sphinx in my current playthrough...
>>741910083>A master from another told me you could neck yourself nearby, come follow me Arisen!
>>741910183>if these are the monsters they've shown off in previews, imagine how many are in the game that they haven't shown off!>
36 VOCATIONS BRO A RICH WORLD WITH ENDLESS EXPLORATION TRUST ME BRO WE'RE GOING TO THE MOON!!
>>741921414i NEED to know what the front of this new armor looks like. also its been confirmed that players can wield one handed axes as fighter. Wonder if it has a unique benefit, maybe higher crit damage when you hit a weakspot, compared to sword or mace?
The humiliation ritual begins again. At least monster hunter fags can join us in it now. The absolute state of crapcom.
>>741910547base DD2 is a fantastic game you nigger. hope this expansion makes you faggots seethe uncontrollably just as much lmao!
I wish they went for some other locale than yet another dreary nordic landscape that's been overused in so many games by now
>>741910561>le milk ustell me if a game being released this year worth my time and attention more than this expansion.
>>741944475
>>741944435as opposed to generic forest and generic desert? it's dragon's dogma, dude. bog standard fantasy setting is the goal.
as always, another DD2 hits limit with faggots trying to convince bros to stop having a blast lmao! it just’ aint happening man, keep trying though.
>>741900374I'm still mad at them not actually fixing the most damning gameplay flaws DD2 has:>Enemy/encounter variety is still shit>Story is still dogshit that is so bad that it actively ruins the enjoyment of the rest of the game>There are not enough vocations in the game, it needs at least 3 more in order to round it out>The leveling/stat system is still ass>The game becomes piss easy the moment you start exploring kitty land>The "AI" has some massive and obvious flaws that just become even more obvious if you ever try to break out of prison>The game has all of these neat ideas that just ends up going nowhere, "permanent" NPC deaths being one of them, but dragonsplauge shines a MASSIVE spotlight on how it's all a farce and everyone just respawns about 24 in-game hours after being killed.They could at the very least have had a "Hard Mode" included with the DLC that rearranges spawn points for enemies and adds some form of enemy scaling, even if it's just something basic like "For every 1 level, enemies become 25% stronger up to a cap based on region". The single thing that gives me hope is that they ended the gameplay reveal with KinoSHITa saying that they'll keep patching the game even after the DLC has been released (At least I hope that is what he meant)
>>741945205>Im still madgood, stay that way. didnt read the rest of your seething dough lol.
>>741944393kill yourself
>>741945779not yet, DD2 has an expansion about to be released and I just gotta play that bro.
>>741945205Trickster and warfarer basically arent vocations either. Dd2 is the laziest nigger shit possible and reusing enemies for the new "dungeons" (im expecting a few hallways in a cave really) is crazy.Crimson desert mogged this game already.
>>741903459resident cuck is just the perfect formula for these washed up milennial "gamers" puzzle game with action elements thats the ideal amount of friction these losers can handle
>>741917503This will be my MC for the DLC playthrough and his pawn
