Valve used to define the industry and make nothing but kino but their next big release just looks like uninspiring cookie-cutter heroslopHow did they reach this point
>>741902882the game is objectively good
>>741902882>uninspiring cookie-cutter heroslopIt's literally one of the most inspired games in recent memory. Being a one of kinda fusion of MOBA and hero shooter with high movement (battleborn and smite didn't even come close) and they literally reworked the whole setting to be more uniqueName the last time you saw a supernatural 1940s setting. Don't get why people hate this game so much that they just lie about it on /v/
>>741903895It's just turd worlder tf2fags that cant run the game that are butthurt spamming steamchart threads over this game
>>741903895"Hero Shooters" are terrible. They are terrible shooters.
>>741902882>Valve used to define the industry and make nothing but kinothat hasn't happened for 20 years dude
>>741902882It's funny because this game would've been shitposted to death a decade ago on /v/ due to HUD clutter and assfaggots. In fact the meme image that /v/ made isn't as bad as this kek.
>>741902882this isn't even what the game looks like nowadays
>>741904154I'm also a TF2fag though. A recent survey showed a lot of Deadlock players enjoyed TF2 previously
>>741902882Deadlock is just good.You also need all that info. It's a game for skilled multi taskers and attention managers, it's not for everyone.
>>741905907Street Brawl isn't.
>>741903562>fpbpgame is unironically good
They’re also known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>741902882NopeV:tMB had done physics before HL2 but were forced to delay releaseCS:GO was from a mod done for freeValve are utter slop
emiru is cosplaying as deadlock valve won
>>741908906ew, what the fuck is that tranny freak doing on stream
People are pre-ordering a 100$ version of GTA. A game that will do nothing to change the formula. And people call it an industry standard.Why the fuck should Valve?
>>741905747Wait, really? I'm a TF2 fag and I get genuinely spooked looking at the game in motion. I never played MOBAs but like you said, the setting is very fucking cool.
>>741904532>used to
>>741910591Deadlock was my first MOBA (I tried Dota way back when and hated it). It's a MOBA but it's also a movement shooter on the source engine. B-hopping and airstrafing around while clicking enemies is pretty familiar. The game only looks complicated if you don't play it. Imagine if you never played TF2 before and you see disguised enemies and uber charged heavies and sentries all around while the map set piece blows up. If you don't even know what all the various abilities even are, it's gonna look confusing when you see them used (they need to be visually distinct so you know what's happening while you play)I have over 2000 hours in TF2 and now I've got more than half of that in Deadlock
>>741902882oh no no valve has fallen
>>741902882sirs i loving valve so much!!!!!!!
Its boring to watch, and not that fun to play. The movement is fine, but not very interesting. I guess its nice if you have never played any CPM (or even Quake Champions) before. Overwatch has much better shooting. Dota still has better strategy. CS has better tactics. No one likes 1940s fashion but reviewbrah. Half the upgrades are just stacking stats which is really boring.
Overwatch is also unwatchable, so Deadlock has that going for it. They need to do a lot of UI work. The game is just not that interesting despite there being a lot of stuff to do. I had more fun with Battleborn.
>>741902882>popularized FPS with slower gameplay for more cinematic presentation>made TF2 a game for gay, furry trannies obsessed with hatsI'm glad Valve as a developer is dead.
>>741902882The gaming market is much more competitive then when Valve was making hits. DeadLock would have been massive if it released 20 years ago.
>>741903562>multiplayer slop>good
Why are all the anti-woke posters never talk about deadlock but can find obscure games with ugly women to complain about
>>741918165Why are you barely able to speak english?
>>741918247Why didn't you answer the question
>>741902882Left4Dead was the first Valve game I didn't buy on release, they stopped trying a long time ago
>>741902882You can have whatever opinion you want on the quality of Deadlock or how fun it is, but it is objectively a very unique game
>>741915270>No one likes 1940s fashion but reviewbrahreviewbrahchads won
>>741915270>The movement is fine, but not very interesting. I guess its nice if you have never played any CPM (or even Quake Champions) before.Quake has like 5 movement techniques and the important ones exist in Deadlock already (air strafing, bunny hopping, and crouch sliding). In comparison, Deadlock has enough unique mechanics and interactions to fill an entire wiki. The only thing Quake has over Deadlock is that air friction doesn't rape your speed as much as Deadlock does and they haven't added the rocket character yet.>Overwatch has much better shooting.The reason Overwatch feels like it has "better shooting" is that you move like molasses, it has actual hitscan characters, and maps are riddled with chokepoints so it's incredibly easy to hit players.>Dota still has better strategy.It has the exact same strategies as Dota 2 because of the map and objectives are similar to Dota. The only thing Dota has over Deadlock is mechanical depth and there are very few games that can even match Dota in that regard. Maybe when the game has more items and heroes (or is actually released) it will get there.>CS has better tactics.What does it do better? Deadlock has the same tactics CS does, just replace "bomb site" with "lane" and "equipment" with items or skills. There are even more tactics inherited from Dota like cutting/freezing waves and stealing the enemy jungle that don't exist in CS.
>>741919293MOBA+Hero Shooter is not unique
the ultimate troon game
HLX is coming
>>741902882>Valve used to define the industryLiterally when? Everything they've ever made was something that already existed.
>>741903895>supernatural 1940s>its just troonsack
>>741904384>press HRT button every 60 secondsyep its a troon shooter
>>741903562it's an overwatch clone that insists it's a serious MOBA.Valve will refuse to be honest about this and keep trying to mash the two together, until they gradually balance laning out of the game.
>>741903895You're new to contrarians on /v/?
>>741903895>Name the last time you saw a supernatural 1940s setting.Wolfenstein 2009
>>741918165Wraith, Calico, Haze and Infernus are fantastic examples of black characters done well so they can't be used for shitposting
>>741902882Word got out two decades ago how awesome working for Valve was and every lazy piece of shit dev in the industry wanted in so now they're all working there & churning uninspired slop at sloth pace unsupervised by their boss that's too busy driving boats. Don't get me wrong I'm not on team timmy I still use Steam, but Valve is creatively bankrupt.
>>741922090>so now they're all working there & churning uninspired slop at sloth pace unsupervised>sloth pace>nowZoomer wasn't alive yet for Valve Time
>>741922090Valve pays good if you're working on Steam, not if you're working on their actual games. That's why they don't put out as many games or updates for their games anymore.
>>741902882they realized they made more money having a monopoly on the PC game market instead of making games.
>>741922259The real enemy is Stack Ranking, which inherently deters employees from making games. Because if they aren't successful, then they nuke their stack rank and bonuses, for years.
>>741922416all ranked systems are inherently troon-coded
>>741922458Well they inherited it from Microsoft, so yeah.
>>741922458Meritocracy is pretty transgender if you think about it, it's a very recent idea compared to nepotism.
>>741922154>Valve pays good if you're working on Steam, not if you're working on their actual games.Still their game developers probably get paid the industry standard at the very least and they have job security while at the same time nobody expects anything from them. It's still an extremely coveted place to work for even though gamers feel betrayed.
>>741903895my wife and I play street brawl all the time. lots of fun.the main game mode fucking blows though. imbalanced, long matches. mobas in general suck. the one friend I tried to get to play with me did not like it at all, said it looked like shit and was too confusing. he's a little bitch though so who knows.
>>741921265Surely you can name me many more then
what deadlock looks like to people who dont play it
redeem the ability sar
>>741902882>Valve used to define the industryNo they didn't.They had one series: Half Life, and one engine: source.Counter Strike is a Half Life mod, Team Fortress is a Quake mod, DotA is a Warcraft mod. Left 4 Dead is a Counter Strike mod (a mod within a mod). They just remade them all inside the Source engine.They made the Half Life games and Portal games as originals and sell boxes/weapons for the other games (well, not L4D). That's literally all they did in relation to game-making until the Index and Alyx.
Are the people that made Portal, TF2 and HL even working at the company still?
>>741923060Team fights in MOBAs always look like a messy clusterfuck of shapes and colors. But Deadlock is especially bad.
>>741924165ok guys everybody press their "I win" buttons on 3..
Game is retaining more players than when it had frequent updates. Next major patch that will bring another 6 heroes will make the retention only go higher. Then you'll get other studios making their own 3rd person MOBA shooter
>>741902882Why did they remove the zip line railings anyway, those were cool
>>741902882All their original talent left the team over the years. Not even sure what's left of them anymore. Do they even do any work?