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All of the GTAO updates since 2020 have been gay, retarded, and inoffensive, the exact type of sterilized slop that old GTA would have made fun of. Almost all of the men that wrote GTA3-RDR2 have left, and now it's just full of ugly bulldykes, and fat HR women.

>Leslie Benzies?
GONE
>Dan Houser?
GONE
>Michael Unsworth
GONE
>Lazlow Jones?
GONE

Literally the only remaining lead writer remaining even just from GTAV is Rupert Humphries
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Good. You lost, chuddie. Total transfolx victory.
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>>741917183
What happens when GTA6 shits and flops?
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>>741917837
your prize: a rope and a stool
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>>741917183
i dont even care anymore. IV is literally the only good gta. take2 allowed rdr2 because its not rockstars flagship franchise, dan houser left specifically because t2 wouldnt let him write the story he wanted, the original VI story pitch was "too dark" and t2 wouldnt accept it no matter how many revisions were submitted. you can already see the corporate rot in V preventing any artistic sincerity in the story because everyone hated IV. you cant take risks with GTA because otherwise it could alienate "consumers" aka goycattle at the goytrough consooming their goyslop to drive up corporate value. if VI is good thats great but my expectations are rock bottom.
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>>741917863
How can it flop? There is 0% chance it gets bad reviews or low sales.
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>>741917183
To be fair, they probably didn't have their A team pushing slop to the troglodytes and whales still playing GTA Online.
You do have a point though. The Van Der Linde gang having a bunch of women and blacks in it and everyone being weirdly tolerant of other races and female sufferage for a gang of murderous thieves in the late 1800s was a sign. The trannies outside cockatoos being quietly removed in the PS5 / Series X/S remaster was writing on the wall. GTA VI will almost certainly take no shots at women, gays, or minorities. Whether it takes shots at heckin straight white men after the "vibe shift" of 2024 remains to be seen.
It will probably be the most "polished" GTA in two ways. First, in terms of technical fidelity and attention to detail, and second in terms of it being the safest and most corporate one. All the rough edges sanded off so nobody has to have an uncomfortable conversation with their boss or the shareholders.
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>>741917183
can their target audience even read more complex text than in elementary school
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>>741917863
Cyberpunk 2077 had about the worst launch a game can have. It was buggy and ran like ass on every platform. The Playstation 4 copies all had to be refunded by sony for being literally unplayable.
That game still managed to turn a profit purely because of hype.
The CP2077 hype was big, but not nearly as big as GTAVI. GTA also had only one delay that I can think of, whereas CP2077 had like 5, which is never a good sign.
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>>741917183
yep gonna be funny when the normies herds cry after purchasing this slop
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>>741918529
They recycled nearly decades old content for GTA:O. In a recent roundtable with the voice actors Steven Ogg was surprised to learn that dialog he had recorded immediately after the game was released was re-used 3 years after production had wrapped in the Series A Heist. RDR2 is the last game made by the old guard with all of the names OP mentioned, it was Rockstar's swansong. The producers like Benzies that got Bully and RDR1 over the line are gone, all of the creative writers behind side/main story content are gone but they hired a woman and a Jewish dude to understudy for 2 or 3 games so it's OK, the guy that is responsible for writing almost all of the radio ads, jingles and general world media + all the wacky side missions is gone and contracting for Disney and Netflix.

Legitimately the only decent content to come from the nu-Online team is the Franklin and Lamar set of missions and even then that was short and sweet and 100% carried by character chemistry instead of an ace writing and worldbuilding team.
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You beat up homophobe in GTA4, you were always a poser fan
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>>741918307
didnt he write mindseye? it didn't turn out great lol

being stalled sucks, but the his writing was made great from being wrangled and reviewed. valve is equally nitpicky with their games and people like then for it
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>>741919384
that was benzies not houser
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>>741918529
The explicitly leftist gang of outcasts being leftist for the standards of their time is still the absolute least valid criticism of the writing of RDR2. How everyone outside of the gang is written is much more relevant, and that's where the problems are.
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>>741918765
hype = marketing campaign, number of purchased ads
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>>741919120
Not just that, but in the next mission, Niko goes on a whole monologue about how Bryce Dawkins is a hypocrite for his public homophobia and how Bernie is completely valid and should not be ashamed of his lifestyle. Rockstar characters have always been preachers.
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>>741919384
>wrote/co-wrote GTA III-V and IV's DLCs, Red Dead Redemption 1 & 2, Bully
>had absolutely nothing to do with Mindseye
You are probably thinking of Max Payne 3 which he WAS responsible for
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>>741917183
I don't see how it's "safe edgy", it's cringe and retarded but it doesn't even attempt to be edgy
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>>741919701
Max Payne 3 has terrible writing
Whole thing feels like if a Something Awful goon took a vacation to Brazil for 2 weeks and didn't like it.
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>>741920253
Max Payne 2's writing is miles worse (and gameplay even moreso)
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>>741917183
Why are chuds complaining? Just take out a machine gun and gun down the troons they'll put in the game.
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>>741917183
they add a female protaginst (ugly man-looking latina) to a GTA game and you expect it to be good? CONGRATUFUCKINGLATIONS
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>>741920253
lmao wrong, mp3 was kino
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the addition of this lovely creature's voice to GTA Online compounded by all the shitty nu-nig music is what introduced me to the radio station filter. I honestly look forward to more GTA content from this same team.
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>>741917837
>destroying the gaming industry is a victory
you can keep your burnt down kingdom faggot. there's nothing left.
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>>741917183
I withold my position that the delays are to make the game less woke. Had Elon never bought Twitter gta6 would already be out in an omega woke state.
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>>741917863
Then everyone agrees that Digital ID and Hardware leasing Provided by NVIDIA and Jeff Bezos is the future, goyim.
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>>741919384
They paywall that content in your pic?
You know, 15 years ago people looked down on games with day1 DLC.
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>>741921190
it's delayed because they only hired dei employees and they're too incompetent to actually make the game and have it release on time
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>>741921082
he looks like an uglier Sam Hyde
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>>741918438
they'll never break even. the only way they'll make up for it is online shark passes
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>>741917183
Surely GTA Online hasn’t been written by the same people who wrote GTA VI? They probably put their C-team in charge of churning out that slop.
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>>741917183
How much input did Rupert Humphries ever have in GTA IV? since that was the better respective game that he wrote. I guess he counts as a technical OG of the more advanced rockstar writing but he didn't work on their other classic games so it's kind of unremarkable that literally no one is left but Aaron Garbut. Who mainly did art and not writing.
All the people who worked on GTA and Bully are long gone. Rockstar had to censor something about crossdressers in the re-release of GTA V over transphobia complaints so you know for a fact that satire is completely toothless at this company now.
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>>741917863
It won't flop. It will disappoint a lot of people however and get a surprising low user score.
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rockstar went to shit when they started censoring old content
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>>741921743
He's the only one to get a "written by" credit next to Dan so it's likely he had a lot of input
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>>741921743
Yeah it's over, literally every lead writer from PS2 era GTA, GTAIV, RDR1, even GTAV and RDR2 are all gone except that one.
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>>741920359
>>741921075
Rockstar of David shill, Max Payne 3 is a glorified scripted sequence
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>>741921743
Pre-SA GTA barely even had a story. You were basically a piece of cardboard that NPCs barked orders at
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>>741922169
ah yes, max payne 1 and 2, the critically acclaimed action RPG with choices and consequences
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I thought the fake juggalos were okay, but the two people for the chop shop or whatever were the most annoying faggots in the game, to the point where I've never done their races and almost didn't even bother with the intro missions to unlock the auto shop I paid a few million more. The real safe edgy is Lamar in the Dre stuff. He didn't say nigga every 10 seconds anymore, which was his best feature.
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>>741922110
So the reason they still justifiably call it GTA now is
>Sam Houser
>Rupert Humphries
>Aaron Garbut
I just don't even see GTA as the series it once was. 6 just looks off tonally from the series. Except for the fact that they're likely using a lot of the old iconography of Pisswasser, Cluckin' Bell or it would be too obvious in how much of a detour in themes it would be.
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I have so much fatigue from interacting with hispanics and black people in the real world that I see no appeal in doing it again in a virtual world.
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>>741917183
every time I feel down I come here and see people like you who go out of their way to make images and posts like these, and I feel much better about myself.
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It's a surprisingly fair point.

Will R* really make a game as edgy as 5 again? The most recent GTA content has been extremely safe and inclusive. And obviously RDR2 is about the most progressive and modern band of outlaws to ever exist.
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>all the retards and trannies were stuck working on gtao
phew, game gonna be based
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>>741917183
I just don't want Jason to be saved by Lucia 30 times. I just want Jason to act like a man and Lucia act like a woman. I don't want either of them lecturing me about black lives matter. Is that too much to ask? The fact I even have to be concerned about these things is fucked up.
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I wasn't buying it anyways
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>>741922325
>Pre-SA GTA barely even had a story
Eh. It was more limited in the stories that they could tell because they working on numerous projects and had time constraints hence you had Vice City Stories and Liberty Cities Stories also coming out. As in they always wanted to tell bigger stories. 3 that might be true about NPCs barking orders but Vice City was trying to be something more at least because they had the plot twist with Lance Vance turning on you. You can draw similarities with that and Ryder.
It wasn't matching Hideo Kojima writing but Rockstar were delivering some of the best crime movie style writing at it's respective time. It was higher quality compared to other video game writing back then.
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>>741922341
Neither if which stop after 5 minutes for gameplay for walky talky time or a cutscene
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>>741923229
>5
>edgy
The only edgy thing about it was killing the Motard faggot from the GTA4 DLC.
I can't even remember his name.
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>>741923603
Nah, Lamar and the anti-troon shit could never fly today
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>>741923671
I can't even remember any of the terrible dialog besides the nigger MC being a cuckold for some girlboss bitch married to a doctor that tells him to save Lamar.

I only remember it due to how terrible it was.
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>>741924004
No one knows what you're talking about schizo
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>>741917183
C O P E
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>>741919120
>>741919667
You mean GTA4, the one where Nico murders literal rabbis and a jewish pedophile and how Nico is a bad person and a hypocrite himself? That fucking Nico? Tell me you poser, when will we see that again in GTA? Oh right, you won't see that, because your a woke faggot, and being woke is JEWISH SUPREMACY towards White people. So no woke game will EVER criticize jews again.
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>>741924526
GTA 5 famously has a Jew getting brutally killed by the protagonist
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>>741924172
FRANKLIN U WAZ ALWYAYS A DUMB THUG SHIET NIGGA DAS Y I BOKE UO NIGGAH U GOTTA SAVE LAMAR BTW IM MARRYING SOME DOCTOR EVEN THOUGH U STILL LOVE ME BAE

Bravo Rockstar.... BRAVO!
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This was the peak of GTAV
So beautiful!
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>>741923229
GTA 4 was Rockstar's last real edgy game. In fact, I think the content is the main reason its never been rereleased.
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>>741924641
Gta 5 was 13 years ago, unc
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>>741924935
It is the last precedent to suggest anything about what 6 will be like
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>>741925268
No, that's Red Dead Redemption 2
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>>741919538
>explicitly leftist
I'll admit they were pretty bohemian for their day, but I don't remember Dutch quoting Marx. It's been a while since I played though.
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>>741919558
I don't disagree. You can manufacture hype if you have the capital.
Some is organic though. Both CP2077 and GTAVI are both follow-up games from franchises and/or developers whose previous title was very popular and well received by both consumers and critics.
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>>741925830
None of it has been organic since Vice City
Witcher 3 also wasn't organic, it only got mainstream popularity due to fucktons of marketing after CDProjekt Red became a public company.
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>>741925674
Marx was a contemporary of Dutch, there were entirely different ideological strains at the time that influenced him, you'll want to research 19th century America for this
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>>741923229
>R* really make a game as edgy as 5 again?
No. GTAV launched in 2013. Gamergate was in 2014. That marked the beginning of the culture war and the first open salvos of the "video games and related press" of the progressive left's long march through the institutions.
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do people not realize the goycattle are so suggestible and tribal that VI could be actual literal dog shit and they would not only enjoy it but praise it for years to come
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>>741917183
If Vice City came out today, it’d get accused of being woke 100%.
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>>741925268
That makes no sense anon it's been 13 years, are you retarded?
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>>741926434
It is the last GTA game that has been released
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>>741926210
The Communist Manifesto and the first volume of Das Kapital would have been translated to english and widely disseminated throughout the game.
If you assert that Dutch was "explicitly leftist" it would make sense that he starts blathering about muh theory like every other leftist twat.
If you mean Thoreau by "other leftist ideological strains in 19th century America", I don't think he quotes him either.
The main antagonist of the game is a stereotype of a 19th century robber baron, so I don't deny the gang is essentially an 1800s Baader-Meinhof-esque group, I just question the "explicit" framing.
If anything the game should have been more on the nose about it, because Arthur, John and others becoming disillusioned with a man's lofty ideals after they are used fo justify theft and bloodshed is a great parallel to 20th century leftism.
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>>741924682
>black woman acts like a retard
What's the issue
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>>741926974
Marxism would not have been anywhere near the standard leftist worldview at this time, so I think this entire line of argumentation is pointless. The Mexican rebels in RDR1 are explicitly socialists and even they do not refer to Marx, they are not expected to.
>If anything the game should have been more on the nose about it
I can agree with this, but I think they wanted to keep the gang's ideology vague so as not to alienate players, which failed in the case of /v/ but it is not a huge loss.
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>>741918765
GTA6 was delayed 3 times
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>>741926019
If people play a game, for any reason, advertisement or otherwise, enjoy it, then honestly highly anticipate the next game, that is "organic" hype, whether you personally share their tastes or not.
I know this is 4chan and everybody has to be a contrarian, but we have to acknowledge that when millions of people play a game and a significant plurality enjoy it, some of them will want to play the next game. That doesn't make either game good. It just makes the second one, "hyped".
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>>741922940
But you can kill them in a video game.
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>>741927194
I haven't followed the development closely. That doesn't bode well.
If there's a review embargo, the launch is going to be really rough I bet.
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>>741927209
There's nothing organic about viral marketing.
It's manufactured peer preassure, just like most old media.
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>>741921589
Nigga, the game sold 40M copies on the 1st pre-order day, GTA VI already paid for itself.
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>>741927138
I personally think RDR2 is an amusing satire of leftism. Dutch is basically your prototypical leftist revolutionary who convinces a motley crew of women, nigs, and actual psychopaths to murder a bunch of innocent people in order to bring about a utopia (Tahiti).
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>>741927486
>Rumor
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>>741922940
>I have so much fatigue from interacting with hispanics and black people
Why are you still on /v/, then?
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>>741927554
lmao, true
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>>741927402
Give an example of a game that sold through organic word of mouth and explain how it's different.
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>>741927675
Kingdom Come Deliverance
>Small but dedicated fanbase of people who knew about Illusion Software/2K Czech
>Got financed on Kickstarter plus some publishing money
>Most of the marketing was word of mouth
>The game was good and pandered to it's core demograpic
>Sold 5 Million

Compare that to the astroturfing campaign by Deep Silver with the 2nd game.
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>>741918001
>>741921148
How do you not realise this is bait?
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>>741919667
>Niko didn't call his childhood friend a disgusting fudgepacker faggot? Woke! Woke! Woke! Fucking liberals ruining my game! Woke! Woke! Woke!
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>>741927953
Don't mention KCD here, the poltroons are going to mention gay sex now.
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>>741927953
Vavra's tweets got me to buy that game. A lot of people talked about it on /v/ and /pol/ because it was a rare example of an antiwoke game that wasn't "Chud Ttanny Killer 9001: Gotta 'Ack 'Em All".
I think you could argue Vavra was engaging in some careful guerilla marketing with those tweets.
God knows he didn't actually believe that shit because the second game was woke.
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>>741928058
I am defending GTA in that post
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>>741917837
This is powerful
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>>741923603
Torture scene
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>>741928852
Were you 12?
Trevor is constantly making quips as well.
People were watching SAW movies a couple of years before.
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>>741927991
>I-its bait!!!
This is why you lost, chud.
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GTA 5 writing was already bad and RDR2 had tons of woke shit
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>>741921725
that used to be the case until they cancelled agent and delayed vi in 2018
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>>741924753
gta iv is "edgy" in the same way that picrel is "edgy"
it feigns it not by world building and characterisation, but entirely through explicit exposition
niko does nothing other than go on self piteous cannonades about how he is somehow the victim for committing the bosnian genocide
thats not "edgy"
thats just poor writing and bad taste
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>>741928058
the way vito finocchio is treated in the sopranos is a lot more realistic of how such an environment deals with anyone a bit different

but the poof was also the only good character in the entire game so i cant fault them for trying to keep him in
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>>741917183
>GUYS! GUYS! POLITIIIIICS
Fuck off you idpol faggot
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>>741933162
He's completely correct though?
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>>741933198
HOLY SHIT BAAAASED

Oh wait. Kill yourself faggot
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>>741917183
the nortubel of gta
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>>741933198
Yeah, but you aren't allowed to notice or the corporate shills get uppity.
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>>741928267
>Vavra's tweets got me to buy that game.
wow. re-evaluate your life choices. immediately.
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>>741933162
It's no use. Just laugh at them like the retarded downs children that they are.
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It’s obvious that GTA VI is written by women just from looking at the protagonists. A White chad with a mid gf (obvious self insert). I bet she’s not going to be a psycho latina bitch like Catalina, she’s going to be a mary sue and the relationship between the protagonists will only be mildly toxic at times with a happy, wholesome ending. The story will be totally toothless.
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>>741917183
No GTA game has good writing. None of them. I will never understand why people give these games a pass simply because they have a 'big' open world, and you can shoot people. That's all GTA has going for it.
Plus I can guarantee GTA6 is going to feel dated as fuck considering it's going to be the same 'safe edgy' crap from 5, but with references from 3-4 years ago.



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