I've played this game so many times, like 18 to completion, that I just can't derive any more enjoyment from it. I know it too well. And yet, any other game in the genre is bad to me because they're inferior to it.
it wasn't as good as Icewind Dale 2
>>741919847What is better about it
>>741918137good, now you can finally join the rest of the world and play bg3.
>>741918137I assume you played some mods. But yes it's by far the best in the genre.
Who is the objectively correct romance option? There's only one true answer, so choose wisely.
>>741918137it's true this game is the tits, but have you played the temple of elemental evil?
>>741920060incest with imoan
>>741919969it's just smoother
>>741918137This except with BG1. It's equal parts funny and sad how shit games like PoE and KM are to even TosC despite having so much tenhnological and budgeting advantage.
>>741919847It's not bad, but BG2 is a lot better. IWD2 is very linear, compared to BG2 with fantastic exploration in chapter 2/3. The spells/battles are solid but not as interesting. There are no funny NPCs to recruit. There are far fewer cool quests. 3E is enticing at first but it's so imbalanced and retarded that it's not worth it. It has way more useless fluff design like feats and skills that are basically traps (if you choose one of the useless ones you've permanently lost your points). Free multiclassing is too broken.
>>741920060Imoen is. She's the only one who can truly understand Charname.
>>741920560>nerys>shandie>delinawtf is this shit lol
>>741920560>delinaFucking who?
>>741920560Is Imoen even a character? She isn't one in BG1, since nobody really is in that game, and in BG2 she's afk nearly the entire game.
>>741920560Who the fuck are Nerys, Shandie, and Delina?
>>741920691she does have a fair bit to say in BG2 and TOB
>>741920618>>741920645>>741920714Minsc's new companions. Delina is basically Neera without the LOLSORANDUM. He even mistakes her for Neera a few times. Shandie is a halfling archer and Nerys is a cleric of Kelemvor who I'm pretty certain was being set up as an honest-to-god love interest for Minsc.
>>741920248PoE drives me insane because of how much I like some of the QOL interface features like having a sped-up out of combat game speed and slow-motion in-combat game speed. I want that in basically every other RPG ever made. And yet actually playing PoE it just a pile of "Yeah it's okay". Owlcat's games feel more distinct with the 'harsh' timers in Kingmaker and the goofy mythic path stuff in WotR, but even the fucking ship in Deadfire feels too low-impact and disconnected with your actual play. Even just give us some fucking side quests involving the crew getting up to shit or something GOD DAMN IT OBSIDIAN DO SOMETHING WAS TYRANNY THE LAST TIME YOU'LL FUCKING ACT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>741920560Jaheira and Imoen deserve their own tier: stepcest tier. Consequently, they are the best choices.
>>741920060While I like Viconia more, nothing can beat impregnating your elf wife and raising a child together.
>>741918137Do no reload scs ascension pusc
>>741924815Davaeron go away and make more videos
>>741924849His videos are outdated... Lo and behold the second I get my cleric HLA's and mass raise dead is fuarkng useless FUCK YOU BEAMDOG
>>741924849I tried so hard to follow his Kingmaker journey on YouTube but I don't think he managed to get a single cohesive run uploaded. Gave up ever seeing a BG1-2 from beginning to end either but there are so many I eventually at least got to see how he handles BG1 in its entirety.
>>741925197I think last ascension was in 2025 and he basically doesnt upload really anymore, try and catch the streams he just got off kenabre's in wotr
I hate Watcher's Keep
>>741918137I've only played through both once, and it was before BG3 came out. fun games but in regards to choice for quests it doesn't seem like there's too much variation to be had. feels like the replayability comes from the mechanical side more, running different party comps and MCs. I did start a replay of BG1EE not too long ago, running a Kensei until I can master using bastard swords I think I was speccing into, then I was gonna all in on wizard. My first run was a fighter/cleric dual class
>>741925312I think it's better than durlag's but I've done durlag's like 20 times and only gotten to watchers like 4 times
>>741918137That's because what you're essentially playing is a classic, golden age d&d campaign using ad&d 2nd edition rules made by passionate devs who had been playing tabletop d&d for years.World of Warcraft firmly destroyed RPGs being based largely on the tabletop experience.
>>741924952did they nerf it? beamy should mass suicide honestly, please stop "balancing" my 100 year old game we have mods for that
Here's that cute and innocent elvish beauty for you to romance bro
>>741922392the rare ship upgrades let you circumvent dedicating yourself to one faction or another but mechanically yeah it's super limp, mostly because ship combat blows ass so most will just opt to do a regular fight instead.
>>741925457She had ogre illusion sex with big K
>>741925413Yeah, I can't bear to downgrade my setup either... Even tho having a weidu file basically means you have an isntall order so its really not a big deal it takes forever to go through all of them for bg1 & 2 and if u screw up a module or two here and there its such a bitch
>>741925284He had an ascension this year.
>>741925457Aerie is such a fun character to use blasting contingencies with pracyer chant and recitation just makes brainless gameplay so much easier but holy shit bro we heard about the wings enough times man STFU
>>741925560Was it with those new kits/npc mods he was trying out?
>>741925359This game came out before they whole "your choices matter this time!!" era of gaming. You gotta remember, this game practically invented (I'm sure there's stuff before, don't worry) the modern WRPG companion system, where they're all unique characters with their own stories and quests related specifically to them, with optional romance.
>>741925284He ostensibly saves all his VODs to YouTube now but even still his progress jumps around in the weirdest ways. I gave up when after he died in KM and rolled a new character before ending the stream way before even fighting the Stag Lord, yet in the very next stream he was somehow already doing the part of Amiri's quest where you first fight the Frost Giant at the barbian camp.
>>741925850>ywn hold nalia's d'arniseFeels bad man
>>741925457I don't like any of the BG2 romances very much>Aerie keeps going on about her wings and her personality outside that isn't endearing>Viconia hates everything>Jaheira's romance slows down her companion quests to the point where you'll probably never complete them without stallingIt's especially annoying because I had a huge crush on Jaheira in BG1 so I should have been thrilled that she was a romance
>>741925850I couldn't become the lord of this place because the game bugged out and the courier who was supposed to tell me to go back there to advance the quest didn't spawn
>>741926024Her quest is weird, she just kinda gives you her stronghold. Should've been a sham marriage that burgeons into a real romance.
>>741918137You have to rotate games, genres, and hobbies. You may end up enjoying it again after a 10 year break from it.
>>741926270It's only for Fighter classes
I only completed BG2 one time and I had fun but I have no desire to revisit it. One interesting thing from my playthrough was I unfortunately read online and got spoiled that something called "Firkraag" was a dragon. But I had the quest already triggered out of order, so when my party went into the Copper Coronet I ended up getting what is supposed to be the initial canon start of the quest where you are accosted by a man called Firkraag who wants you to help out with something. I immediately tagged him as the real source of the problem and thought I would get ahead of the issue, instead of responding to him I decided to fireball him without saying a word. However the game anticipated this and he became immediately invulnerable and teleported away without a scratch using high level magic before my fireballs flew across the tavern and exploded some poor hapless NPCs
>>741926339>Should've been a sham marriage that burgeons into a real romance.That would've been cool, yeah.Honestly I kind of hate BG2 and always thought utbwas overrated as shit, and mostly because of the romances, such as they are, so my first reaction is to shitcan any idea regarding them. But, if itbwas done right in an otherwise good game, yeah I admit I'd like something like that.
>>741926471I was a fighter, anon.
>>741926471I was actually wondering how that worked, I'm gonna dual into a wizard so I'll likely be a wizard when I do that quest, but because my original class was fighter will I get the fighter stronghold, or the wizard stronghold?
>>741920060i played as a half-orc, only viconia romanced with mc
>>741925850My first time playing I did this quest first.Kept dying to the troll boss and then rage quit after that.I ended up doing two complete runs from 1 to 2 so I really don’t know why it was so damn hard for me.
Do you guys do lvl 9 duals or lvl 13 duals?Personally prefer lvl 9 because I feel lvl 13 takes way too long
>>741927179it's a bit of a skill check
>>741927264If I was going to dual a fighter mage I'd go 9. I think I did thief mages at 7 back when I tried playing that.But I mostly only play elves. Dualing at 13 sounds fucking miserable either way.
let me guess, you need more?
>>741927264I did 9 in my first run, kind of want to try 13 fighter to see if the 2 attacks per round is worth it but it does sound really tedious.
I want to play ranged character. Should I use bow or crossbow?
I always do the trade meet quest first because it’s relatively the easiest one. Plus you get a second quest right after the first one.
>>741926024There is a mod for that.
>>741927542>kind of want to try 13 fighter to see if the 2 attacks per round is worth itSpeaking of Dav, his reasoning against dualing at 13 is that you're losing 4 levels of mage, delaying the dual by 4 levels (after or at best during Underdark), and once you get Critical Strike it really doesn't matter amymore (although this is really an aside as to why it's better than Whirlwind, which will cap your APR at 10 anyway), and especially because, as a mage, you shouldn't be autoattacking anyway.
>>741927701Bow.IIRC there are way more magical bows than there are magical crossbows.
>>741927264For a normal playthrough fighter->mage, 9 is way better. You will still shred things in melee if you're dual wielding with improved haste. Dualing at 13 fighter->mage in a normal playthrough is not much fun, you will suck for a huge chunk of the game.
>>741927701Bows are better in BG1. I've heard crossbows are better in 2
>>741927701As other anons have said, which weapon type to choose depends almost entirely on how many unique weapons are available in the game for that category.In BG1 for instance there was like 1 magical polearm making 2 handed polearm characters pretty bad when compared to something like shortwords or daggers.
>>741927701Bows in general, but you can get Firetooth at the very beginning of Watchers Keep.
Level I remember most from ice wind dale was the island of ghosts from heart of winter. I beat the base game already so I just cast sanctuary on my cleric and literally killed every single enemy with turn undead.
>>741927954there's a pretty kickass crossbow outside of watcher's keep you can get early if you save your gold
Rangedturds should be woodchippered.
I enjoyed late game icewind dale more than late game bg. In iwd there weren’t as many enemies with magic immunity compared to bg2 where I remember endless waves of rakshasa and mages auto casting a bunch of magic defenses.
>>741928331Rakshasa aren't very numerous, at least not in vanilla BG2, but vampires are so fucking obnixious.
>>741927701BG1 - Longbows will be best. Shortbow is close behind. Each of these get 2 attack per round inherently which is REALLY good a low levels. Crossbows are generally worse due to only 1 attack per round, but once you have some gold you can nab the Crossbow of Speed at Thunderhammer Smithy which closes that gap. All of them work, If your class maxes out at specialization and you can afford to put points in two ranged weapons I'd just go Longbows for ease in BG1. But if you want one weapon for both games I'd suggest Shortbows or Crossbows instead.BG2- Long Bows get shafted. They lack a really top tier end game option that generates it's own ammo. I wouldn't bother with them. Hpwever, Short Bows and Crossbows both work really well since they have a capstone option. Short Bows have the Tuigan early and the Gesen late. Both are super strong. Crossbows have the Firetooth, which is easy to acquire and hits like a truck. Both options are solid.
>>741928331>mages auto casting a bunch of magic defensesOne of my favorite parts of my Bard run was having really high level Dispel/Remove Magic so I could just tell Liches to fuck off.
There is this sense of high fantasy comfiness in BG1 and 2 that BG3 doesn't quite capture. There is a sense of inherent meanspiritedness to BG3.
>>741929472>There is a sense of inherent meanspiritedness to BG3.That's because it was made as a hateful deconstruction of the IP by a group of deranged Leftist scalies that hate the West and gamers. Props for noticing.
>>741920560The Stellar Blade 2 shillers would love Saerileth
>>741918137>>741920034>>741920101>>741920560my brothers
Imoen romance mod is awful.
>>741931572I believe it, but Imoen is best girl.
>>741931572My stepsis can't possibly be this cute!
>>741931572Agreed. I have a real girlfriend. Unless...
Played the trilogy mod (original, not EE) a few years back and it was absolutely fantastic. Tried to get some of the other big expansions like Icewind Dale in BG and there were some others but I couldn't get them working, think my version was different or something, and really didn't want to start over again cause the install order was fixed. I hear doing it with EE is easier though, and you can get those cool HUD Mods where all the spells show on one bar. Has anyone ever got the ID in BG mod working, or any other big land expansions to add to BGT? Was it worth it? I should go back through BGT again though, and have a complete custom 6 man party. Would be dope.
>>741932119I did play it with eet once and its really just messy, the progression is just thrown everywhere and the entire first half of the game becomse messy, eet is already kinda weird with sod and bg2 too. I think you're much better off just running standalone extra content mods if you want to have more stuff to do in either bg1 or 2, the only importing of content from id that kinda works imo is the ones that allow you to play trial of the luremaster but the items are pretty unbalanced.
>>741918137couldn't get into it.. choices don't matter
Planar Sphere... home...
>>741929594>That's because it was made as a hateful deconstructiondo you retards even believe what you say
>>741926024>>741926270>>741927770Not being able to get with Nalia, of all characters, feels the weirdest because the game does so much to set shit up with her for you, but will instead inevitably have some other girl forced on you instead.
>>741937960There were some romance options that got cut. Valygar was originally going to be an option and some of the dialog for that is apparently still in the game files. Maybe Nalia was another?
>>741918137So I have installed the first Baldest Gate enhanced and got fucking completely bored of all of the DnD and the game in the middle of the tutorial. They just don't know fucking know how to design the games and game systems. It's so fucking boring and lame. All they know is how to pack the new games full of degenerate propaganda.
>>741938324Are you fucking gay? Candlekeep has to be the comfiest tutorial any game except maybe Fable has ever had. I do it every run.
>>741938397>Are you fucking gay?I'm the only straight person.>Candlekeep has to be the comfiest tutorial any game>I do it every run.you might enjoy the brown rooms and endless dialogue, and bugs, true. But it is so fucking boring, that I can't even bring myself to play to steal the star sapphire. Plus, the tutorial doesn't even teach any important shit. Just the very basic clicking on every button and drooling like a retard. No hotkeys, not the importance of stats or alignment (protip; there is none, it shouldn't even be in the games or dnd, as it doesn't fucking matter at all), and so forth.Whenever I think to myself that a game (system like dnd) is so fucking boring and needles, that it becomes a waste of my time, then it is completely dead to me.
>>741938185There is a rumor that she was, given that she has a questline that doesn't go anywhere.But still, she has a good romance mod that makes for a good substitute.
>>741938598Kek, suit yourself.
