It feels more and more like I'm just forcing myself through the normal route, when the weird is the only good one.>chapter 7How much longer am I supposed to wait? Tony, you're a faggot.
>>741921478Post the screenshot of her saying she wanted it.
https://nitter.net/i/status/2070168642957062404FLOWER MANFLOWER MAN
The reason Rudy is dying is not a normal illness. Being the Knight is killing him. That power is not meant to be contained by a Lightener. Alphys's secret experiments gave him the power, it's an Undertale parallel like fucking everything else in Deltarune.His goal is to save Dess who's trapped in the Lake Dark World. Kris and Carol are helping him.Feel free to screencap this and call me a fag if it's wrong, but I'm genuinely sure this is Toby's plan from all the evidence diving into the Chapter 5 decomp.
INSIDE MY LITTLE CHAMBER MADE OF GLASS
WHERE IS THE MOUSE PORN.I SAW HOW YOU FUCKS WHERE MOVING IN THE HOLLOWER THREADS.SHE EVEN CONFIRMS THAT SHE'S A GIRL!
>>741921754If any of them is getting porn it's Aqua.
>>741921754She should stay pure
>>741921720>>741921739This is how Kris sees Rudy, btw.
>>741921729I hope you're wrong. Alphys being involved would come out of left field so fucking hard.
>>741921426https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icSFp_Vc7bo
>apparently, chapter 5's weird route fucks with your game if you complete itHow was I supposed to know it would happen this early? If that dog didn't want me to do it on day two, he shouldn't have made the light world sections of this chapter so gay and lame!
>>741921426>>741921720Whether tobe shits the bed or not, it will all be worth it for deltarune in concert
I haven’t seen anything from the new chapter, all I want to know if there’s more Noelle mindbreak for me to jack off to.
Any interesting dialogue if you keep losing to Flowery?
>>741921426>Weird route has what amounts to a fucking sex scene in itBut yes there is no sexual allegory going on with thatNo it's all just me being a gooner pervert reading into things.
Are you excited for Ice Palace?
>>741921426say what you want about the story but Susie stopping Kris from ripping up the second code was hype as fuck
Reminder: Flowery represents Rudy>Same closed eye smile and haircut>Asgore's old college buddy>Wants to do anything to make the people around him happy at any cost>Winds up broken and dying in a way that can't be fully fixed>An idealized version of the real Rudy who is the Knight >Kris' influence made him extremely OP and self aware because Kris knows Rudy's the Knight>"Chamber made of glass" >Flowery's enclosure (literal)>Rudy's hospital room (symbolic)>The Knight's armor (black shards)
I aborted at the lake and it took me to the ice cream before going into the dark world. Are the differences between this and normal route the same as the differences between normal route and chapter 4 aborted, aside from obviously everything up to the lake scenes?
>>741921810but Rudy likes Kris and Flowery hates him
>>741921783Size difference between aqua and orange?I ask out of curiosity.
>>741921912It doesn't do anything yet.Don't worry about it anon, you haven't done anything unforgivable.
>>741921912it flags all your save files, one flag if you do it correctly and a different flag if you do it incorrectly
>>741921960No big changes on the surface beyond some dialogue. But apparently some in game flags still remain on, so it might be chapter 6 is different.
>>741921914you're in luck
Anyone else kinda stopped caring about Susan this chapter?
Did Toby pussy out with the weird route in this chapter, or is it still continuing to endgame?
>>741921976Having heterosexual sex is unforgivable to Toby Fox and you just did the closest thing to itYou're fucked mate
RudyKnight bros, we won so hard.
>>741921961Flowery doesn't hate Kris just says to leave the fighting to the real hero / pushes Kris away to protect him
>>741921720For me, it's this one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO89LmqVcpATEN FEET TWENTY, THE FLOWER MAN
>>741921960a few different lines of text during some scenes, nothing majorwhat is major is that the game permanently sets a global flag that you did/aborted weird route, which will affect later chapters and probably earlier chapters once toby fox finishes the full game and goes back to add meta-narrative aspects to the first few chapters like he did in undertale's beginning
>>741921942its gonna be yet another nothingburger and you know it
>Toby is such a FUCKING hack he is literally just copy/pasting the exact plot formula that M3 did by fucking around 80% of the game and dumping all the actual main story plot content in the LAST FUCKING CHAPTERThis is seven needles all over again fuck you Toby I see what you're doing
>>741921960the usual "back to normal" jingle doesnt play and as you've already seen that scene was corrupted with noelle sperging out mentally and retaining her meta knowledge. its possible that it wasnt even her spergout, just the prophecy trying to implant its own version of events.
I bet if you have sex with a Darkner its just the splat sound effect played forward and reversed over and over
Your reaction?
God asriel and dess were fucking like rabbits weren't they.
>>741921885This is just a fucking sex scene.
>>741921754Reblog! Porn artists MUST be held accountable for their negligence!
I heard there's a removed scene for weird route ferris wheel?
There are genuinely 3 different routes.>Normal route. This is the same thing as if you aborted the Weird Route before chapter 5. Once you plant the seed in Noelle on the couch, you're locked in, the Normal route is impossible. That's what the long jingle is about.>The Chapter 5 "Stop" route. This is about you trying to keep control, not about freedom. Will probably involve the Twisted Sword.>The Chapter 5 all the way. This is about Freedom and breaking out of the system no matter what. That means diving in head first (literally) with Noelle and feeding her psycho side.
>>741922034Susie is becoming a slave to the prophecy by huffing the fumes from the dark fountains for three days straight. What little is left of Susie seems to be diminishing with each chapter.
>>741922080mother 3 is actually good though
>>741921960The scene where Susie talks with Kris changes significantly, she freaks out about how much Noelle and Kris are hanging out and that they were both wet after their meeting by the water. She asks if they're more than friends and if she's getting in the way of Kris and Noelle, if you try to answer yes, Kris dunks himself in the water to stop you
>>741921426Chapter 5 was pure ass. Would've been better if Deltarune remained unfinished. Whoever wrote this shit was on some cough meds or didn't play the previous chapters at all.
>>741922136My retarded ass thought some kind of OMG SHE'S ACTUALLY A DARKNER THE WHOLE TIME until I realized she just was moving in there. Comfy scene though
>>741922034
>>741921961>Flowery hates himFlowery does not hate Kris, what
>>741922136
>>741922136eat shit susan fake ass hoe
>>741922145It genuinely is a sex allegory. We know the drowning is symbolic since if you stop, Kris and Noelle are alive and don't remember almost drowning. No one saved you. It's an allegory.
>>741922148>announcing itlol
>>741921426Do you think Toby is reading the reactions to chapter 5 and crying realizing he finally fucked up his project after giving free rein to trannies while being distracted by his autistic Japan fixation?Or does he not even care anymore? Is he Hussie now?
>>741922037I thought weird route would end in ch 5Insert disk 7B suggests endgame implications>>741922080No one is in the kind of role Pokey Minch is. I wonder if an earlier draft had lancer be that but then he realized it'd be too much taking from mother 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQHdqbJQMrc>I was on top of the world livin' high>It was right in my pocket>I was livin' the life>Things were just the way they should be>When from out of the sky like a bomb>Comes some little deer girl faggot>Now all of a sudden>Some Weird things are happenin' to me>I had friends>I had lots of friends>Now all my friends are gone>And I'm doin' the best I can to carry on>I had power (Power)>I was respected (Respect)>But not any more>And I've lost the love of the one whom I adore>Let me tell you about the Weird~ things are happenin' to me>Weird~ things>Weird~ things are happenin' to me>Ain't no doubt about it
wheres the ralsei fireball route we saw him using the spell
>people think there won't be a secret 8th chapterya know, Live-A-Live predicted all this...
>>741922136I really thought I missed something or forgot. Was very confused
>>741922170>he thinks Noelle will let (You) take the ThornRing off her in the Chapter 5 Stop routeIt's a bad end
>>741922136Visceral rage. You fucking whore. You will die like the others.
>dess was cut up and dumped in the lake dark world and her parts are represented by eggs theory
>>741922296The secret 8th chapter requires doing all 3 routes, and resolves everything meta narrative related.
>>741922138It's a miracle she didn't get teen pregnant
>>741922231Flowery may be how Kris thinks Rudy views himSubjective dark worlds and all that
>>741922034in chapter 4 they made it pretty obvious that Susie is a fraud and not a hero, and chapter 5 they made it pretty obvious that she was intentionally put up as a fraud by Kris and co to manipulate the prophecy somehow. So what I'm saying is that I have fully stopped thinking of Susie as a character with agency/a waifu and now see her solely as a patsy sacrificial lamb who is stupidly being played like a fiddle, probably being lead to a brutal and horrific death by Kris
What if "Side B" is LITERAL? Like Chapter 7 is us finally going into the Shelter normally and finding the underground of the city, but we wind up finding a spot we can't reach that's coming from the direction of the lake.But then in Weird Route, we wind up there from going down into the lake, and we start the chapter from there instead with Noelle.
>>741922296>8thThere are chapter slots for chapters 0 through 10 anon. The dog will enable scrolling through the chapter select menu.
>>741922267>No one is in the kind of role Pokey Minch is.Susie
>>741922291you need to complete the weird route for that
>>741921739>kris still has the golden seed packetTHE SWORD OF DREAMSAND THE SEEDS OF HOPE
>>741922263probably doesn't care anymore
>>741922356Its a sequence break yeah
>>741922267>me with my suspiciously gaster shaped bellyerm... yep! Theres no one here that could fit in that role... haha.. burp
>>741922145You rape the doe? She rapes you back.
>Last egg>Last shadow crystalSo what happens now?
How did other websites react to chapter 5? I know KF hates it.
>>741922362based
>>741922136First confusion on where to go after she turns down the apartments, then a brief "did she live here before the foun-" then brutal realization and horror about what she's doing to herself.Also residual anger from the previous convo.>hey lets turn you into a third wheel forever kris and invite noelle here
>>741922406Fuck off to /vore/ no one likes you
>Kris is going to plant golden flowers in a dark world in the future with the seed packet and we'll see the return of our fuarking hero(s) Flowery(s)
>>741922034>>741922174thisnoelle is my based freedomcel rapefriend now
>>741922439Steam forums seem to be divisive from what I've seen
I think the hate for Chapter 5 is entirely about Susie's MASSIVE character assassination. Noelle still acts like Noelle, if anything, she's more tolerable around Susie than normal and way hotter in the Weird route.Ralsei is more likable than he ever has been.It's just Susie that sucks all of a sudden. But everyone liked Susie, so it hit the hardest of all. Like your best friend since high school betraying you.
>>741922296>oersted is a literal cuckhm...
>>741922447You think she’ll tell her how to make Dark Worlds?
I cant believe Onion san is fucking DEAD.HE WAS SERVED TO US.WE ATE HIM. WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS.
>>741922413We get to the FUN part of the game
Kris when wearing aqua's outfit looks just like aqua Interesting
>>741922312You completely missed the point of that moment.You should be feeling pity for how corrupted and destroyed Susie is. She's been completely brainwashed and absorbed by the fake dreamland of the dark world. That scene is pretty much the point that confirms her mind and soul are completely dead. Nothing you can do to Susie is worse than the fate she has already been locked into in the "main" route. You'll see in a couple years when the chapters are out how horribly it goes for her, now that Kris has succeeded in brainwashing her into taking the role of "the girl"
>Gaster is green>He speaks in hands>Green is green>She speaks in handsBros...
>>741922439I hope nips hate it too since is the only audience Toby seen to give a fuck.
>>741922495You're right. I think my anger is entirely directed a the gay dinosaur right now
>>741922543cyan soul kris stocks rising through the roof
This game's ending is going to feel incredibly unsatisfying for anyone who has been following this since the early chapters because of Toby's infleunces, like Mother 3 and Link's Awakening all having abrupt ends that shut off the player's connection.We will NEVER see the ultimate conclusion to the setting and conflicts, it will end the same way regardless and how the player is disconnected is the ending. The entire game was just a "it's up to your imagination" message
>>741922349>>741922138RALSIE IS ASRIEL AND DESS' ABORTED BABYScreen cap this post.
>>741922564so? her choices don't matter after all.
>>741922136Glee with how my suspicion concerning how unnatural Susie and Noelle felt was proven to be correct. Her whole act this entire chapter just screamed that something seriously off was up.
>>741922362Shut the fuck up and play the piano.
>>741922570green cute
>>741922174Kinda sucks, at first it was about her finding a friend and growing as a person. Now she's trapped in the delusion. I feel like besides Omori there was another recent series, either tv or game, that had a similar theme? And in the end they had to let go of the delusion and move on?
I'M GOING TO NOELLE
>>741922136i immediately knew that something had gone seriously wrong when susie refused the apartments and that she has been lost.she had the capacity to be the white pen of hope, but that aspect of her ceased to exist throughout CH5 as she fell into every little slot of the prophecy that she's supposed to be in.
>>741922404So possibly we'd have 2 different instances of Kris going around in a space under the city near the lake that can't be reached you say...
>>741922439Xitter is divided, but the consensus seems to be that weird route is absolutely the best part of the chapter. I think the consensus online as a whole is that Deltarune just would not be as good if it wasn't for the weird route and what it implies.
>>741922413Can you remind me why this is the last egg?
>Asriel's true form looks like a Spawn (fetus)I'd shit my pants and kneel to that theory with poop still running down my leg
>>741922356I remember when people were theorizing that she would make these faces because she was getting cucked at the festival, not literal suicide
>>741922263he doesnt care, but 5 years from now hes gonna sob when he has his midlife crisis and realized he sold his passion project from age 18 to furry grimy agpsthats when he'll do Deltarune Final Mix
>>741922034Every time I start a new chapter I think "man, I hate this stupid mary sue" but then she starts growing on me again
>>741922636Damn Rudy too
>>741921720https://youtu.be/YBhb2SplDEI?is=XU9swVdkDUb9-zzF
>>741922413>Last eggEvidence for the trial.>Last shadow crystalWho fucking knows at this point.
Susie already got character assassinated in chapter 2. Nobody cared back then.
>>741922609I'm saying feeling rage towards Susie is completely nonsensical. She's a victim with no agency.
>>741922657Ralseis sorry (Asriel is his dad)
>>741922263He insulted the entire Yellow mod base by calling Clover a gay, suicidal faggot. He want to see the world burn.
>>741922136I will continue to cope that this is all Toby's master plan. Surely this is the "breakup" of our 2 heroes at the end of Act 2 before the eventual "Rekindling stronger then ever" for Act 3 right?
>>741922034I'm disappointed but I believe in her comeback. It's good for a character to have a moment of weakness
>ugh i hate my life i wish i could just leave but im too weak>i hate being the richest bitch in town>i hate being the most popular girl surrounded by friends with the best gradesFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOUFUCKYOU the first chance i get i'm throwing her to the gaster holes
>>741922460Would it be even the same person?
>>741922136>don't actually know where she lives>walk towards the apartments>"not that way" fuck you mean not that way, there's no other residential buildings>can walk toward school, she lives near the school?>can go into the school>oh no, it's maelle all over again
Normal route Susie is doomed. She has conformed to the prophecy.Weird route Susie is doomed, whether it be the Chapter 5 stopped or B side drowned one. She cannot find a happy ending here.The only hope for her is to revive her fighting spirit in a secret route that probably requires finishing the game once.
>>741922648in that egg room, if you have all the eggs>ask for moreyou get told that you 'have everything you need already'>dontyou get told that you feel like you shouldnt look for the egg man anymore.
>>741922564It's different because I wanted to corrupt and destroy Susie. She is mine. She will become my wife and we will have many chud sons.
>>741922439>KF...Kiwi Farms?
>>741922495Yes, Susie is the most popular DR character by far and a lot of it is because how much of a bro she is. She ditching Kris for that annoying deer really killed the best part of her. I don't see how you can recover her from Chapter 4 writing.
>>741922749u wish u were her so bad
>>741922648If you have all the eggs and ask for more in chapter 5, the egg man says you already have everything you need.If you don't have the eggs, he points to other trees in the distance.
>>741922742>Surely this is the "breakup" of our 2 heroes at the end of Act 2 before the eventual "Rekindling stronger then ever" for Act 3 right?Anon that hasn't happened yet. That would require Kris to reveal that he was working with the Knight. THAT's the breakup, this is just the setup to it.
>>741922439Who the fuck cares what Kiwi Farms thinks of Deltarune you stupid waste of fucking oxygen
>The suselle theme is called "I guess I'm in love"KRUSIE BROSTHE COPE NEVER STOPS
>>741922756No but now kris seems to know that pseudolightners like plants can break the rules and will use that to his advantage
>>741922570Green best girl
>>741922034Why is Noelle meh in the normal route (though she's okay when you're with her in Chapter 2) but literally the most interesting and hottest character in the game for me in the Weird route?
>Dark crystals are from the power of lost dreams>The good ending is a lost dreamI bet you need them to get the true good stuff
>>741922034Susie was butchered this chapter. Literally a completely different character.
>>741922637>i immediately knew that something had gone seriously wrong when susie refused the apartments and that she has been lostYou want her to go back to her terrible home life?
>>741922530>Kris, luv, I'll make sure you have fun this time.
>Noelle is canonically into asphyxiation play
>>741921426What happened to Asgore's black shard?If two black fountains were made already, why did we not see a single SPAWN in the castle?What actually happened all those years ago?Why did Toby rush his character development like this just to have him get kidnapped, is everything that happened before so damn important to the entire story that giving us even a glimpse would give away the entire plot?You can't really understand the weight of the sins he was carrying without knowing what were his actions?I think this chapter's story was rushed, or not handled correctly.
>>741922812AIIIIEEEEEE
>yfw this shit has TWO chapters (8 fucking hours max) to answer literally everythingHow FUCKED are we?
>>741922812Isn't this more indicative of suselle being the only one that's living atm
Northerblight.Northerblight I KNOW youre here.HOW DID YOU KNOW FORCED WEIRD ROUTE WAS GOING TO BE CANON NORTHERBLIGHT.WHERE IS YOUR SHADOW CRYSTAL NORTHERBLIGHT WHAT DID YOU SEE.AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Kris is going to swallow the seed packet and kill himself and attempt to become a plantner-like being to try and gain ultimate power in Dark WorldsChara-sama... Not again
>>741922606>abortedNo. When they went int t he fountain, Dess died and and the fetus became Ralsei
>>741922826because... um... when ... I guess um .. .I was trying to say... (oof).. what I mean is....When characters just say what they truly want to say with vigor and passion its hot as fuck.
>>741922765>>741922801Have as in, in your inventory? I remember you can place eggs in places in town in the earlier chapters.
>>741922781You could recover from Chapter 4 writing by just having her still act like Susie. Which means, largely oblivious to Noelle's crush and brushing her off, while always remembering her true bro. You can still write yuribait scenes with her and Noelle without having her openly respond to it. That's what Chapter 4 was.Susie is a COMPLETELY different character in Chapter 5. It's a bigger shift than between Chapter 1 and 2, and that one at least had an explanation.
>>741922356>shelter is the sewers>we enter through the sea sewer pipes
>>741922892>Kris is going to swallow fucking buttercups on the way into a dark world
>>741922515They were delicious.
>FLOWER MAN, FLOWER MAN>WITH HIS HEART IN THE SAND>SO HE STANDS>TO WATCH THE WHOLE WIDE WORLD>FROM A CAN>WAY UP HIGH IN THE SKY>WITH THE SUN IN YOUR EYES>AIN'T IT NICE TO LIVE FOREVER FOR>FLOWERS
>>741922892we are all chara on this blessed day
>>741922774>It's different because I wanted to corrupt and destroy Susiethat's literally what (you) are doing in the main story of the game, though. The entire main route of the game is about corrupting and destroying Susie.
>>741921426What's left? Like most tumblr creatives he made it dyke slop
Are there any game flags for listening to all Ralsei says and being nice to him? I want an ending where you marry him
Burgerpants' ridiculous dating life is meant to be a parallel to Kriselle/Suselle tomfoolery.
Humans Monsters...Flowers
Literally how do I beat this boss?
>>741922763>secret routesmuggling a kill method into chapter 1 and disposing of lancer during the first encounter.doing that will completely destroy the prophecy and outright prevent susie's escapism arc from starting.i really hope this is true because i want to see a fucked up church world thats gone incoherent due to the prophecy being broken.
>>741922136Seeing her stand in the doorway like that with no darkness coming out, I thought Castle Town had somehow been sealed and got really scared for like 20 seconds
>>741922925thischapter 5 susie literally isn't susie anymoreeven in the dark world away from noelle she feels very off
>>741923026find common ground
I think a lot of people are assuming that in the True Weird Route, we’ll wake up in a Dark World or something, but I think there’s a good chance we wake up in the hospital. We just skip Chapter 6 because we were unconscious the whole time. The Bread(crumbs) are so Susie can figure out where they went and fish them out.
>>741922749But she's stuck in a town of retarded NPCs, like my old best friend
>Pink has nothing to do with the freedom motif at all>Easiest of all five so farAbsolute worst secret boss
HEIL GASTER
>>741923018these are....pleasant.I'm surprised. Momma Green is cute.
>>741921426Chapter 6 is coming out in 2027 (Hopefully) so I'd expect Chapter 7 in 2029 at the latest.
>>741923007Nigga HOWName 1 fucking thing about suselle that resembles catfishing
WHERE IS ITWHERE ARE THE AQUA AND SETH LEWDSWHERE ARE THEY
>>741923093pink is the secret bossflowery is the schizoboss
>>741922889>NORTHERNBLIGHT is canon>Except they didn't make Noelle crazy enough
What if they're saving the Asgore fight for chapter 7's weird route
This looks so silly, the one we got was way better.
>>741922913I'm not actually sure if placing the eggs has any bearing on the dialog. I placed all my eggs and he told me I had everything. Maybe some other Anon who didn't place the eggs can tell you if he says anything different.
>>741922749Nah she's right if you've ever lived in a shitty podunk town you'd get it
>>741923069the bread is what teleports you back to the shore if you fail the scene, its an earthbound reference.
>>741922643>We finally get Chapter 7 Side B>WE're in some weird part of the underground Dark World cut off from the rest>But there's a switch that doesn't seem to do anything next to a save point>Press the button and save>Then get a NORMAL Chapter 7 (A-Side) file>Go through and find a strange button next to a save point there next to a cut off area>Press and suddenly Kris stops moving>Reload Side-B, path is now open>Go across and find the Fun Gang there, including another KrisFucking imagine.
>>741923093Pink can move freely as Mew Mew in the Dark World.
>>741923108toby has no shame.11 years to make a 30 hour pixel shit game.
>>741923093>Easiest of all five so farShut the fuck up
>>741923093What do you mean Pink is easier than Gerson or even Spamton?, maybe you're just good at bomberman, she gave me hell
So, the drawing given to Sans in this chapter is the same drawing you find in Undertale?
>>741923069I think Chapter 6 is going to be the reveal to the gorup that Kris and You aren't the same. Ralsei seems to already know andd every chapter we get so close to Susie catching you. I imagine the normal ending is You leave Kris and either join the party of Susie, Ralsei and Noelle (love finds the girl). Kris would either be the boss and die or at least go to the bad guys side for chapter 7. But as he's kind of drowned now the whole chapter 6 is likely not needed for that route.
>>741922850>I think this chapter's story was rushed, or not handled correctly.It's there was a major rewrite at some point and it's not even subtle. You got shit like "we can't allow Asgore to see Ralsei without his hat" at the very start of the chapter vs Asgore's absolute nothingburger reaction at the very end.
>>741922260>We know the drowning is symbolic since if you stop, Kris and Noelle are alive and don't remember almost drowning. No one saved you. It's an allegory.Isn't it just simpler to explain that the video game logic that they are aware of caused them to just respawn?
>>741923125I dread what they'll do to orange manYou don't know how fucking awful they get with mice types My god
>>741922136>"I WANTED TO SEE SEAM YOU BITCH!"
>>741923096
>>741923180Yes. Absolutely.
>>741923139Temmie must’ve just played don’t look outside when she drafted those up lol
>>741923018Blue kinda looks like a woman in here, as she shouldI like these designs
>>741922913I think that was a mechanic that was dropped
>>741923029I doubt a secret route that saves Susie will involve killing anyone. It will probably involve one small change early that snowballs over time into bigger changes, such as ACTUALLY beating the Knight in Chapter 3. That's a very Toby thing to do.Susie's heroic spirit will be strong enough by the time she meets Gerson in Chapter 4 that he will give her the actual Hammer of Justice. With that, she will believe in herself enough to laugh off the true prophecy in Chapter 4, declaring she will smash it.
>>741923202noelle remembers she chuds out and says 'nothing ever happens' over and over again over a dark background
>>741923171Like how Andrew the Huss took 10(ten) years to complete a shitty sprite comic…
>>741923171the only cope I can imagine that would justify this is that, with weird route and meta-knowledge changing repeat playthroughs, that when chapter 7 releases he's going to have a previously unrelased trove of interactions and gameplay elements to the point where it's basically an entire new game released alongside ch7
>>741923115Burgerpants falls head over heels for a character he barely knows for a few days. Everyone knows it's ridiculous and rightfully laughs at him. Yet most silly fans don't see the unnatural-ness about Susie and Noelle's relationship.You can choose to live a lie, or accept the painful truth like he does at the end when Icecream Giy tells him.
>>741923175I'm convinced that you guys who had trouble with Pink just apply no strategy whatsoever and don't use healing items because I legit didn't master any of her patterns and still won on like attempt 3
>>741921426Weird route retards, do you still want to insist that they drowned? You had to interact with Sans even in the Weird route for a reason. Are you finally willing to listen?
>>741923210orange is a female mouse
>>741922136Heartache for both her and Kris.
>>741923029Haha yeah anon with ch7 you're also getting completely new versions of all the previous chapters too
I can't believe Kris only got to cum in doe once before he fucking got himself killed.
The way people are talking about Ch. 5 Susie has me thinking, I dunno if there's any correlation but I always thought the oddest part of pic related is that it really seemed like she was genuinely stumbling upon a serious quest, and then just "snaps" back in a way that feels super unnatural
Pink feels harder than she is because the boss fight just feels like it takes longer to make progress.
>>741923125>>741831024 had ones
>>741921426>when the weird is the only good one.Genocide route is always the canon route
Flowers are neither Lightners nor DarknersDo NOT let one get a SOUL
>>741923180Did you guys not process that Sans is from the Weird Route timeline?You have to go visit him no matter what.On the normal route, Susie draws all four of you.On the Weird Route, there's only three. A Noelle is missing.>i know your type.>you're, uh, very determined, aren't you?
>>741923164>Weird Route ending requires 2 full complete save files.Kino.
>>741923251Yeah? You typically remember what happened after you respawn.
>>741923257wtf did hussie do to toby? lmfao what does any of this imply. Did toby also force himself onto hussie? HELP IM DROWNING
>>741922913I don't think you can do anything with the eggs past chapter 2 so I doubt that matters.
>>74192328690% of difficulty complaints comes from people getting to overwhelmed by the bombs since they are random and deal a fuck ton of damage in rapid succession.The rest of the fight is something you can memorize the patterns for to the extent where you can just tank the damage pretty quickly, but Bomberman is apparently a whole different ballgame.
>>741923391normal route can also have the three person drawing
My jap artist friend didn't draw anything this chapter. He's always making kris and noelle art. I really think forcing dykes stuff was a mistake. Why not a choice or allow people a seperate date option
why are dessknight fans eerily silent
>>741923323>You had to interact with Sans even in the Weird route for a reason.Wait, what do you mean? I went exploring and I didn't think about trying to ignore the fare stuff. What happens if you try and walk around him?
>>741923258i hope ur cope is correctbecause i think its just so fangamer can sell more merch. why make money once selling a game, when you can make money over a decade?
This chapter really was Aqua sexo, huh...?
>>741923350Between this and how unnatural some of the ch5 writing is I think we gotta accept Side A is a hellish existence where no free will existsI don't even think we're the bad guy anymore in Side B, Noelle is basically taking the fight to the Demiurge (Gaster?). Her hatred is justified. Deltarune, SURVEY PROGRAM, is fucking evil. It's cruel.
>>741923018Casual Reminder that the Blue soul did a genocide route, which makes this so much funnier.
>>741923391I’m pretty sure Normal Route can have you only draw three people depending on options taken in I think Chapter 3?
MY HERO MY HER-
>>741923345Worth it.
>>741923323I bet Kris drowns or warps, Noelle will literally get wings and get out of there
>>741923438because they have nothing to prove or gainmeanwhile rudyfags have to break their backs at this point to make themselves relevant
>>741922690Might have something to do with proximity to Noelle.
>>741923438Ever looked at the Rudyknight stocks lately?
>>741923408wasn't toby still a kid by the time he got involved with homestuck and hussie himself?
>>741923345>You only need to fuck her once.>And you'll pass on.
>>741922878I buy into the 'reality is warping around Susie because she's overtaking the role as protagonist' thingshe finds love because the prophecy needs that to happen for it to continue
>>741923429Yeah, I genuinely don't take damage on the Pink fight on anything except the bomb spam shit, and maybe the 3D tunnel thing since sometimes there's just randomly a bunch of walls right in your way to fuck you.
what are the best ones to pick? i see people saying the glasses are good
>>741923475kek
>>741923382Someone needs to edit this to give that deer Noelle's clothes
>>741923438December was barely mentioned, unlike last chapter where she had a fairly major role
>>741922174I am interested in the prophecy corruption cope theory. Can I get a quick run down to understand it better?
>>741923093>easiest of the fivelolH to EKnight, Pink, Jevil, Gerson, Spamton
>>741923438The Knight got two minutes of screentime this chapter
>>741923523apron is objectively a best in slot item, it's scaling healing
>>741922408
>>741922826Because she's as deep as a puddle in normal route. Zero goddamn characterization.
>>741923486Ah yes, DessKnight fags are proud of their evidence, which consists of... pic related. And that's it.Truly their position is secured!
>>741923469There is no way in hell that Toby will say that the rape leads to the happier ending, then again, maybe that's why he was so desperate to change the scene.
So... what's with chapter 6? Like, if you did snowgrave will you like, just, not be able to use that save file?
>>741922114Need seth to splat on my cock
>>741923345>OnceBro he ravished her in chapter four
>>741922136A weird sense of numbness and annoyance. For as much of a prick Kris is to (You), I felt bad for him getting cucked out of both dino and doe by nonsense plot bullshit
>>741923438I'm not a theory fag, but I've been reading threads for the last few days. Can someone explain to me why everyone thinks the Roaring Knight HAS to be a Holiday? Can't it be Asriel or even just a joke asspull like Papyrus?
>>741923435tell your retard friend to play the weird route where Kris and Noelle have double suicide sex
>>741923323>if you abort, the SAVE feature of the deltarune program kicks in and warps you back to the shore when you die, but fucks up and puts you in a messed up version of the normal route>if you PROCEED, the SAVE feature still attempts to run, but your determination overrides it and the game glitches the fuck out, putting you and noelle into whatever happens during Ch7
>>741923523apron, glasses, maybe knife
>>741923029>4rd sanctuary is infinity dimensional foreshadowing
>>741923594The antlers
>>741923576If he just listened to what I told him to do he'd get BOTH girls and the goat but NO he has to be an edgy loser
>>741923198It was dark in the fountain room and Asgore couldn’t see him clearly.>>741923323im glad im not the only one who assumed it was Mother 1 Breadcrumb fuckery
>>741922136The symbolism of walking a girl home CANNOT have been lost on Toby. The love triangle is clearly intentional at this point and that makes me believe that the game may actually have a good conclusion.
>>741923563It's been made clear the weird route ending will be worse. The trick will be going between the lines. i.e., the twisted route.
>>741923559That is simply one piece of a pile of evidence. MEANWHILE, Rudyfags say shit for Rudy that could also apply to a dead/fucked up Dess.
>>741923523just pick the flowers you like the most aka aqua/purple/greenhelps that green is the best like >>741923547 says, but i expect toby will nerf it in ch6 like he did the twin ribbons
>>741923495Yeah he was, then he moved into hussies basement as soon as he was legalwhat happened to toby? if kris is toby, then toby made a deal with the devil or something with some fat chick
Does anyone have a screenshot/video of Ralsei's conversation with Flowery? Does it not straight up confirm that this Deltarune we're playing is just another cycle as Ralsei and Kris attempt to twist the prophecy towards a different ending?Ralsei does say that he's trying his hardest not to burn everything to the ground, and in Gerson's original prophecy, the entire dark world is charred in an inferno of jealousy
>>741923594Antlers. There's no other reason for the knight to have them.
>>741923594The knight being asriel would be lame as shit
>>741923523Glasses for I-frames Hat for increased Healing/Buster damageThen either Shoes or Apron depending on whether you expect that your going to need to fight seriously at some point.Knife is pointless you you have beaten the Knight and Orange is so forgettable I forgot what it does.
>>741923541>Spamton easier than Gersonhaha no
>>741922697FAGGOTRY!? TASTE MY STEEL!
>>741923594I will laugh my ass off if it's papyrus. Truly based
>>741923235that wont work because the prophecy forces its actors into their roles.the whole point is that the prophecy is ABSOLUTE, susie fell for every prophecy point of the girl over the course of one day, even in stark contrast to her personality.minor changes simply will not work unless they break the prophecy outright.it has to be broken in a fundamental and horrible way.its one playing card to save the entire world.
>>741923438Their DessKnight fanfiction about her running about with Kris to end the world for no reason was killed. Now it's probably just her Lost Dreams or something that isn't really her.Dess herself is just completely gone.
So where's that fucking Ch.5 Jevil fight?
>>741923551HUSSIE????Poor toby, he followed the wicked tail
>>741923631>That is simply one piece of a pile of evidence.There is no pile of evidence. All of DessKnight rests upon that. If Rudy was ever stated to play baseball DessKnight would immediately collapse.
>>741923541What about snowgraves Spamton
>>741922230oh god, this isn't some Dark time travel incest fuckery, is it?
>>741923115>>741923269It is actually meant to foreshadow how the reveal of kris working with the knight is going to hit Susie
please post gifs and pictures of Seth, if any anons have them saved.
>>741923653Couldn't they be horns or even just a helmet to throw people off? Like, not even trolling, is it really just a case of "This is 1% chance whereas this other scenario is a 0.9% chance" or is there more to this?
>>741923689Sans did a vague post when asked about papyrus
>>741923705Offbrand Dimentio, so he'll show up after the final boss to hijack things. Toby is not a very original game dev
>>741923627>It's been made clear the weird route ending will be worse.Worse according to who? The very same prophecy keeping everyone as brainless npcs?
>>741923705Trust the plan. Super Jevil is the super double secret final boss of Chapter 8.
Hopefully there is a "100%" complete set up soon. I wanna get a couple files ready for chapter 6 at some point.
>>741923569Because the route is so short and you don't save, probably what could happen is when ch7 releases, you have to replay that scene to access CH7 instead of the menu
>>741923569Presumably, once the game is complete, PROCEEDing will directly sequence break you into Chapter 7>>741923594Because they have fucking antlers and Dess's baseball bat>Can't it be Asriel or even just a joke asspull like Papyrus?No, that's stupid
>>741923663Knife gives +2 def in weapon slot so it's far from useless, if you're going pacifist it's just strictly better than blackshardIt really depends if there are going to be encounters in later chapters where you HAVE to fight, but in reality who fucking cares lmao every fight is piss easy, kris doing 5% more damage does not matter when it's going to result in the same amount of attacks to kill a boss, MAYBE one less action from Kris to reach the breakpoint
>>7419235233 have offensive properties while the other 3 don't.I picked the other 3 since I was going for a pacifist save file.
>>741923569u can go back to your chapter 5 save and it starts the sequence over again, from there you can abort the weird route and play all of 5 and 6
>>741922145>>741922408>>741923551>They followed the pointed tail.>The poor children!>The tail that must not be followed.>In the forest where trees would grow.
>>741923719>>741923670Weird Spamton goes between Jevil and Gerson
>>741923469>>741923563I'm thinking there's going to be 2 loops actually.Weird Route will end with Noelle resetting everything to "play her role" while knowing what's coming to try and force a change like how Chara resets us to get Pacifist after Genocide.But I think Normal Route will ALSO end in a time loop. The Tragedy will happen and Susie or Kris will use the SOUL's power to reset the game and try to find a way to avoid the tragedy.Then we'll have many ways to avoid it, which will lead us to the "main" Chapter 7 which is the "True End". Which can be tainted by Noelle from Weird Route if we did that.
holy shit, there's a danganronpa reference in the new dogcheck lmao
>>741923652This?
>>741923739Toby doesn't do red herrings. The antlers are some of ghe few pieces of evidence we have, so throwing it in the trash would be both mean-spirited and bad writing.
>>741923523SethSpecs are the best in general. More I-frames are always good.YellowHat and GreenApron are very good in general.AquaKnife is good if you attack, hitting crits are a big deal for damage calc. It might be good in general since there will be bosses like the Knight and Guardian in the future you have to attack even if you're being "pacifist".The other 2 are shit. TP cost to spare is very irrelevant.
>>741923731pinge
>>741923750Ralsei says so.
>>741923594>Why does everyone think the mystery nigga with the blatant deer antlers must be a holiday?i dunno
>>741923750Ralsei final prophecy dialogue changes in wr and says that, i don't trust that femboy tho
>you drag the deer into Weird Route>now the deer drags you further downProceed
>>741923787>>741923801Nice knowing you two idiots.
>>741923801I really like this idea
>>741923438There's no freaking material for anything about the Knight discourse, no theory exactly lost but all of them got blue balled.
>>741923816Is this fucker gonna end up with Queen?
>>741923171
>>741923819fucking finally
>>741923821>Toby doesn't do red herrings.
>>741923846thats a good one, thanks
I instantly thought of the bread from Mother when Sans gave it to me
I just wanted wholesome childhood friend STRAIGHT romance, why is Todd making me do this?
THE KNIGHT IS THE CACTUS PLANTER WHO LOVES KRIS
>>741923623>The symbolism of walking a girl home CANNOT have been lost on Toby.Yeah he set that up deliberately"Kris...I've been thinking about us...I've been thinking...""We should try an open relationship with Noelle" its over its SO over
>>741923819Where's the weird ralsei route?
>>741923819Yeah that's the one, I probably need to read the entire thing again, but that's the feeling I got from it.I'm a bit sad that you can't actually get Ralsei to use his fire magic, but if it's because of him trying to subvert the prophecy I can understand
>>741922413The progression bosses and the optional bosses switch difficulty tiers. Hope you got all the good equipment! Also the bosses' mechanics require using pacify to fuck over every single player who recognized that the flower armor that buffs those skills is useless.
>>741923018>the one who goes on a murder spree in UTY is black
>>741923862KRIS!DON'T FUCK THE DEER!SHE'S GOT FUCKED PRIONS!WHY DO YOU THINK SHE'S NOT AFRAID OF YOU ANYMORE!KRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS!
>>741923286It's literally just the small RNG bomb move which either miss you or just decides "get fucked" and rapes you to death. The rest of the kit is fine
>>741923920Toby wasn't brave enough for that, but we got close
>>741923936something quite repulsive about this art and i like kriselle
>>741923918What's wrong with that?
>>741923879Rudy knight got some solid fuel. Everything else got shafted.
>>741923819Firegrave was always real
>>741923731
>>741923821Doesn't chapter 5's dark world segment and the beginning of Undertale both start with setting up an item that conspicuously looks like the outline of a character only for them to pop out from behind something that looks like it is impossible to hide that character instead, being a classic case of red herring?
>>741923563Can't rape the willing
>>741922805>ball of junk and bandage descriptions say nothing even after getting with susie>bread description still works after she leaves, it just plays much slowerDoes this mean anything or is it just a quirk of how replacing all the interaction messages with nothing works?
There's not enough save slots anymore and I'm not sure what to doNow you need>Pacifist>Twisted Sword>Weird (skip to chapter 7)>Weird (drown)
>>741923623>The love triangleKris already lost with that scene by the river
>>741923801>The Tragedy will happen and Susie or Kris will use the SOUL's power to reset the game and try to find a way to avoid the tragedy.Narratively this will have already happened. The Knight is a previous timeline Kris. Ralsie knows about the timeloops, too, and references them in Ch 4.
>>741923990Rudy Knight is more improbable than it has ever been
>>741924037>>Twisted Swordis this even anything anymore
>>741923962It's fine. You only get infected if you eat her brain.
I can’t speak for everyone, but Deltarune is my comfort media. I fucking hate it when the discourse turns negative and the critics overtake the fans and start questioning it to the point people wonder if Deltarune is even good at all. Please just shut the fuck up for once. Leave the criticisms for a couple months out. I’m having the time of my life with chapter 5 and all the fan art being generated from it. Then I go on /v/ and people are just nonstop shit talking it and saying Toby sucks. Please just shut the fuck up and let us have fun before you ruin it for everyone.
>>741923862PROCEED
>>741923846She's cute. Why did Toby have to make her a tranny?
>>74192388411 yearsthe games about a trio33this games a freemasionic lie
>>741924075Same xister, tell those heckin chuds!
>all these retards who think Susie is cucking Krisit's all part of his keikaku*(*keikaku means plan)
>>741924075The Internet is a psychological abuse generator anon
I'm sorry Krusiebros, butYou understand it's fucking over, right?
>>741924075oh man up will you. jesus.
>>741924068chapter 6 trust
>>741924068If it is then it's the non-drown version of the Weird Route.
>>741924068yes, it's still there and it even had its data changed in the last update, the trance effect lost its down arrow
>tenna making the point that his game feels so real that youll forget it isntthis shit has never left me entirely.what if literally none of the dark world shit is real. and not in the>yeah stupid, they tell you that, darkners are objects and-no. i mean like its all made up. its literally just cope and delusion from a bunch of broken kids sitting in a dark room believing theyre seeing the shadows move. toriel never wakes up so she never says anything about it, undyne shows up but then fucks out of the story from then on, asgore is on board with everything but hes believed in the dark world for years as a cope for whatever got him kicked off the police force, and even he fucks out of the story once the dark world is closed.like what if susie bleeding in chapter 4 was a massive>HEY, THIS ISNT REAL RETARDS, ITS ALL FUCKING LARPESPECIALLY when they simultaneously made the point that gerson was dust in the real world. what, is it some weird middle ground now where monsters CAN bleed but turn to dust when they die? what reason would they have to do that?theres a chance that whatever happened to dess was the result of a bunch of kids playing make believe that turned into a very fucked up situation, and the events of deltarune is just a repeat of that. its possible that 7b is some trippy, true ending loredumpfest where everything is revealed, all of the mysteries are tied off in a nice bow, and then it shows kris and noelles bodies washed up on shore, roll credits.
>>741924067>Rudy gets injured>Knight is late and injuredPure coincidence, I'm sure.
>>741924119It's okay, i don't like Susie anymore
>>741922749At this point, I wish I could do to her what Frisk did to Flowey at the end of the genocide route in Undertale.
>>741924075good bait
>>741921996Wait what if you did both
>>741924119im not going to stop coping and hoping until toby puts the baiting to an end
>Tsundere cactus was hiding because she has a human looking form like the flowers in Chapter 3Oh.
Guys we are SO COOKED
>>741923623This is the same guy who forced Undyne x Alphys in Undertale. It could just be a forced shit ship. Then again, it does give off an odd feeling like something else is going on with how abrupt the shift is. Kind of like a certain someone is pulling the strings
I still want to believe that the ending of Deltarune will be kino
>>741924037The two weird routes set an all save wide flag so I don't think it matters
>>741923180>>741923391>Almost a decade of speculation of sans' significance and what the image means>Its a total nothingburger that is just a throwaway joke for sans to trollI expected nothing and was still let down by that scene. It feels like he only added it because he painted himself into a corner by confirming the existence of the photo so long before actually fleshing out the story
>>741924061It also explains what the text from the Game Overs are, it's Susie trying to get Kris back up from the end of the Tragedy.That's why Chapter 1 opens with an unseeable bit of Susie yelling for Kris to wake up or whatever that was people datamined way back when.
>see noelle's crazy talk sprite>start getting an erectionI feel like shit now
>>741921754it's slow but it's coming
>>741924075It was my comfort media, now it's shit and my hype is dead for chapter 6
>>741924183both flags are there, presumably whatever dialogue references it in the future is different for all combinations of having/not having the flags
>>741924075i feel youbut also what the fuck did you expect, get off this board for a while and enjoy the digest you retard
>>741924145Congrats on your surface level observations
>>741923910Drown kriselle is taking the lead but wholesome kriselle does have some crumbs, also this shadow crystal text is kinda scary now that probably you don't need them for pure WR
>>741924145>no. i mean like its all made up. its literally just cope and delusion from a bunch of broken kids sitting in a dark room believing theyre seeing the shadows move.Never thought I would see someone bring back this theory from the chapter 1 days.
>>741924190old news
what's a jarona anyway?
>>741924154Rudy gets injured and brought by his family to a hospital where he's supposed to be treated and monitorized and visited and generally at the presence and sight of a lot of people and there's no fucking way he could just sneak out of there to do Knight shit without anyone noticing, or Carol and Noelle are also conspiring towards it
Oh my fucking godThe "good ending" is going to be Susie finding a way to keep the dark worlds isn't it? She's going to find a way to defy the prophecy with the power of love or friendship or some dumb shit.The weird route is going to be like the geno route with the game scolding you for wanting to break the prophecy in the wrong wayI used to trust on Toby not to write something so utterly fucking retarded but that's not the case anymore.I cannot fucking believe 8 FUCKING YEARS on this shitGenuinely Toby is the biggest hack of the millenia
>>741923502If there is something I can give credit to with the cope, it is that there is SOMETHING out there forcing events to play out. As seen with aborting the Weird Route this chapter, SOMETHING does just saves Kris and Noelle from drowning and putting them back at the date, even if it makes no sense. Whether it is the Prophecy, the Game, or something else entirely, something is forcing things to play out....Noelle x Susie is still badly written. I don't think it being well written would take away from the idea that the pairing is being forced together.
>>741924084Tobias made schizophrenia hawt
Im surprised Kris had enough energy to make a dark fountain in the aborted lake route. Motherfucker had 1hp and was already basically half dead
>>741924154but rudy is fucked up and on the ground in the Weird Route too, even though he presumably didn't need to go to the dork world in that one (Kris made that dark world)
Why didn't the Flower Man song have actual lyrics though?Did Toby really expect people to just sit there and read the lyrics before starting the battle? He could've had some cheesy anime voice to sing them to really pump you upMaybe he just wanted to encourage people to make their own covers so that they can get copyright claimed like all the poor fools who did so for raise up your bats
>>741924145>monsters can bleed now? WHAAAAAAAT? This is completely unprecedented
>>741924189Oh wow, good catch. She even mentions her dream like the flowers
>>741924287its because nothing changed
>>741924226>* It's horrible.>>* It's natural.
>>741924272https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbr60I0u2Ngasgore blasts dadrock to his flowers to keep them happy
>>741924204THANKS FOR PLAYING
>>741924075My comfort media is consuming then ridiculing and critiquing media online vocally and obnoxiously as possible until everyone is whipped up into as much of a frenzy as I am.What now, queer?
>>741924184I love these dorks so much.
>>741921885>TAKE IT YOU SLUT!
>>741924275yeah its probably gonna be a universe defying break where the darkners and lighters can exist in the same space without the world ending. ...but thats basically undertales ending.
>>741923910What's funny is that's not Noelle anymore. It's a Noelle that was made into a "Noelle".When did she become herself?Did she ever have a choice? Was breaking her out better, or worse? She can at least choose now.If we gave her what she wanted, she would be used up. At least if she lives, she can start choosing again. Maybe. If she has the twisted sword, she'll be awake again.But should we let her choose?
>>741924304Yeah, in the same vein didn't know Raise up Your Bat had changed lyrics until I watched someone else play it because I was trying to do good at the minigame
>Cringe feminine faggot who references JUST LIKE MY OLD LE TRANIME OMG and gets art on xittershitterWhy are we supposed to like Flowery again?
>>741924304It's genius because dozens of people have made vocal versions of the song for free already. It's literally the most popular song since Megalovania looking at this short period of time.
>>741924275The last line of the prophecy is "only then will the worlds (plural) be saved"Saving the dark world is a given, the question is at what cost
>>741924296Rudy gets injured in the light world. That injury carries over to the dark world. It's why the knight is so damaged.
>>741924312also (samefag) you sure are bold to assert that noelle will leave a body when she dies
Y'know what, I want Kris to join (my) party after I get my vessel back.I'm still looking out for that faggot, even if she hates me
>>741924274Yet there is one person that works there, he can just leave to put up lights all day completely unsupervised and alone.It's not unbelievable that he is allowed to get up and go for a walk every now and then since he's clearly capable of it.
>>741924312That was ketchup
>>741924193Honestly even in Undertale it was *fine* Alphys canonically had a crush on like... half the people in the Underground. And she was enough of a side character I didn't really care.(Also the fake date where one of you roleplays as Undyne was funny)
>>741924369>when was the last time she smiledIt was right in front of us.
>>741924119I can believe the cope that it's all part of a master plan for krusie endgame, otherwise I don't understand why susie was fucked up so badly this chapter.
>>741924274>Rudy is (headcanon)Nowhere was it said he was taken to the hospital or undertale style fallen down btwYou can talk to him in the weird route
>>741924275>The "good ending" is going to be Susie finding a way to keep the dark worlds isn't it?>She's going to find a way to defy the prophecy with the power of love or friendship or some dumb shit.The Prophecy has always said that "the WORLDS" will be saved. The Dark World has to keep existing, there's supposed to be a balance.
>>741924380>dozensReally?
>>741924312honestly this has always been proof that he didnt really die>but the sound effect-great, you didnt see it.
>>741924119KRUSIECHADS HERE'S HOW WE CAN STILL WIN!
>Tell a girl to use a cool spell once>She fuckign drowns herselfWoman am I right bros?
>>741924075This is amazingly cooked bait.
>>741924275i love doing the wrong thing in toby fox games, its like getting a cute girl kind of annoyed at you where theyre very reactive
>>741924275>Genuinely Toby is the biggest hack of the milleniaConsidering he's seen as a living god by essentially all important Japanese people in the game industry he's already won
>>741922826because she has less direct interaction with Susie. She is vastly more interesting as a character when away from Susie and especially when she is alone with Kris (whether that be Regular Kris or YOU Kris)
Toby's fever dream must've been some genuinely chilling shit, I have to imagine that it wasn't just like picking up an old game and seeing that there's a new evil route in it, he must've felt like he "lived" it somehow
>>741924356Toby's fear of straight people is fascinating to behold
>>741924406He's allowed to walk out of there if this was chapter 3 or 4, but a person who just got apparently injured or whose illness has gotten worse wouldn't be left alone.
Is this the worst character toby has ever made?
>>741924275The good ending is Susie grows up and accepts real life by letting the dark worlds go
>Susie drags Noelle from the hospital to introduce her to the Dark World>Noelle is obviously more concerned about her dad but curious enough to look around, gets general gist of how Dark World works>Some bullshit happens and someone gets a bit hurt, Ralsei/Susie fixes it up>Noelle sees this, realizes Rudy can be healed, instantly runs to the hospital and makes a Dark World there>Kris and Susie run after her but are stopped right at the entrance by Carol>Carol makes up some excuse to have Susie arrested and put in jail>Lets Kris into the Dark World to save Noelle and do whatever>Now we have Kris, Noelle, and Ralsei in a party>Susie is literally stuck outside the Dark World and has to reflect on herself for the entire chapter>Noelle is free to interact with Kris and Ralsei without Susie mucking things up>Rudy being in there probably gives us more info on Dess or reveal who the Knight isIf chapter 6 doesn't end up like this I will be miffed
>>741924449Appeal to authority, and the authority is a bunch of slants who think gaijin are subhuman. Sad, just fucking sad. You're better than this.
Ralsei stop being gay with Seth we have to go seal the dark fountain
>>741924193A Dirk esque mind/plot manipulation thing would at least kind of explain why Susie is acting off this chapter
I'm starting to think that Susie will be the final boss
>>741924435The music that plays in this scene is so good.God, chapter 1 feels so alien now
>>741924478He apparently only saw the ending. Which was seemingly so striking and schizophrenic he made two fucking games to build up to it and make that 'ending' real.
>>741924254i mean its definitely surface level, but youve got guys going in all sorts of retarded directions trying to justify the weird shit thats right in front of them. its unironically the story of fucking yiik and people are trying to delude themselves into thinking its something greater just like the dumb kids in the game.
>>741924437Yes. I've heard like 10 of them and there are more, just with lower view counts.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpzSpGbz4y8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO89LmqVcpAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHx-XS334Wkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVYW-qI4-GQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H19evvpdotoalso >>741921720
>>741923325>orange, man
Help im going fucking insane.
>>741922413Golden EggsWhite Crystals
>>741924497I don't mind this kind of character as much as I should because I always think of Buck Breaking and crack a grin
>>741924113More like it's a part of his kuckaku
>>741923910My future crazy loving wife....
>>741924547https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKk>Skies Forever Blue theory DOUBLE wins.
With all things presented and considered, can we agree that the ONLY way for Toby "Toby "Don't Call Me Radiation" Fox" Maguire to redeem this game is to make 90% of the remaining game pic related, right?I will fucking LYNCH who thought it was a good idea to have Catti cry
>>741924495And then there's the thought that it was a cover, an alibi, for when Asgore goes missing. "Oh my husband fell and has been in the hospital like the lower he is"
I think I'm actually attracted to Weird Route Noelle
>>741924497Sweet Cap'n Cakes are still probably worse, they take up more space and stick around after their brief relevancy
>>741923429>people get killed by the bomberman move>not the cat chains with bombs coming from above???? Did we play the same game? The bomberman one is practically free.
>>741924275>scolding As long we get another lake tier scene i'm okay with that
>>741924497a literal tranny nigger? who's only scenes are joking with the 2nd worst character in the chapter, yellow, and defusing all tension in the finale with Flowery and Asgore? yes this is his worst character ever and its not close
>>741924547good. I hope we get Dess on the team
>>741924604I don't get it.
>>741924443Doe memes aside I'm very happy that Toby once again correctly characterized Noelle not as "crazy anime yandere" but as a genuinely unstable danger to herself and others
I think I see a glimmer of hope somewhere hereThrough the ocean glass I see something shiningVita?
>"love" chapter>Kris gets sidelined>but, everything still revolves around Kris>Kris' ship in ch5 is the Soul, (you)'re the only thing that even somewhat can truly sympathize with Kris in the first placekino
>>741924651That just means you have a functional dick. I'm more convinced than ever Toby intended for her to be crazy hot. Or hot crazy. Same difference.
>>741924608>THIS BLIGGA WAS A PECULIAR ONE>DOWNRIGHT STRANGE
>>741924497It's surprising how ugly he is and no artist has been able to salvage his design via fanart.Genuinely, why didn't Toby made Blue a girl instead?
>>741923910they can't take the coveted ferris wheel ride away from us
>>741924664nah the bomberman attack was hell for me, rest were fine
>>741924497ZESTY ASS NIGGA!!!
>>741924497When I saw this character and how they acted it really took me out of the experience. I don't know how to describe it, but Blue did not feel like a Toby Fox character at all if you understand what I'm saying. Even with all of the other mind-numbing shit in chapter 5
ralseis arc will not be him becoming trans.
>>741924713I don't give a fuck about kris
>>741924734Not subversive enough. Modern media has to subvert expectations.
>>741924304He just wants covers to add to his now private playlist, some comments of raise of your bat covers mention it exists like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_WkrMRdCbE
>>741924734I am willing to bet he left the design of the flowers up to the teamHe SHOULD have just gone with the seven little flower niggas route.
>>741923325Yeah and that caused me horrid intrusive thoughts and I hate it for that.
>>741924673in all fairness, he isn't actually a tranny. literally just a very effeminate fag
>>741924636the 1 (one) way that toby can completely redeem this chapter for me is if in chapter 6 we see Susie slide even deeper into delusion and completely mind control from the prophecy. Like I'm talking completely soulless flesh robot by chapter 7, a complete slave to the whims of the world. Make it more obvious with hindsight that chapter 5 was supposed to be depicting her mind being erased and overwritten, not just some hack yuri. Right now I believe that was the intention, but it could be copium
why did Berdly do that
Chapter 3 is starting to shape up as the biggest LORE focused chapter in the game.>proceed to cross the ocean>Tenna cuts it off with thisWhat is your endgame Foby Tox
>>741924734He wanted to make a gay chapter. Pride month release, rainbow flowers, and every. single. flower. is some flavour of fag. idk just wears thin after a while, I liked seth aqua and green though
>>741924773He already is. Asgore calls him "they" at the end.
>>741924713I don't sympathize with they/them cuckolds
>>741924497So bad you made a collage that you can samefag for hours
>>741924631They literally jump in the lake while the world is corrupting lmao
>>741924443Fairness to Women here, we did chose the one girl who would absolutely crash out over a couple of days of pushing.>Thinks her sister "left" and abandoned her>Mom is a heartless bitch>Estranged from family friend because their life is also going to shit>Has to deal with Berdley every day>Your crush is the most despised ruffian in town>Insert (YOU)>PROCEED to commit genocide under (YOU)r orders>PROCEED to nearly kill your "friend">realized it felt great and that makes you sick>gaslit by family friend into thinking it was a dream and that everything is actually okay>witness family friend get possessed by (YOU)>PROCEED to get raped into loving (YOU)>despite this town just goes on as if nothing happenedDon't know how many of us would survive at least half of this.
Thoughts on tropical starwalker?
>>741924734It's a chapter about love so it must be gay as fuck prease undastandu
>>741924770>finally meet blue, good>oh that's interesting, a butterfly portrait i wonder->eh?
>>741924407fuck nobody has a screenshot of this but imagine green holding up a sign that says PROVE IT
>>741924532Ralsei, keep being gay with Seth. The fountain can wait.
>>741924831it's on the first page of google images you sperg
>>741924713Kris is my favourite by far and I am ride or die with him. I'll help with whatever he wants to do. I'll betray the fun gang I don't give a fuck
>>741924818Asgore doesn't fucking know him, that was the whole point.
We know which path was Toby's dream, now.We know exactly what he saw in the depths of a feverish sleepAnd it was BEAUTIFUL
>>741922850he shoved it up the ass of his Mew Mew for safe keeping
>>741924836He looks pissed
>>741924807uh, did you do the backstage shit?
>>741924783forced memeface
>>741924783Why were they so opposed to yellow ACKing when sealing the fountain effectively kills him anyway?
https://youtu.be/wjh1nZ0anDo&t=101https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7x_hu4t4Y>Carol motif in Happy Town>Noelle also looking WAY more like Carol than usualDid Carol go through her own Weird Route somehow? Is that why her sprite and colors look so weirdly off compared to everyone else?
Reminder the next Dark World is in Noelle's house.
>>741924882Nah fuck him. I want my vessel
>>741922136>walk her home>she starts talking about her relationship with Kris>"our adventure">"our own thing">first time she truly opens to Kris about how much she cherishes their friendship>I actually didn't go to the apartments first because I thought that would be where I would drop her off>we should now invite Noelle>"Thanks for walking me home">credits>a whole party for Noelle>Kris is just abandoned outsideSure, Kris' dad was kidnapped by a murderous psycho, your new friend was murdered and you left the Dark World on a very sad note, but NOELLE, man! And honestly, at first I thought that Kris was suffering because he just won't stop lying to his best friend, only after reading these threads it finally hit me how completely dejected Kris was because he has now become a third wheel.
>>741924770Blue feels more like a Toby Fox character once you realize it's literally just a Mother 3 character
>>741924874And?
>>741924807You can get up there normally and the characters make comments about it. The path to the ice palace is blocked though, and if you cheat your way up there, there's no door
>>741924773im getting really tired of the>the story is interesting for a minute but its ACTUALLY about how this character wants to chop their dick off and wear girl clothesera. doesnt help that its single handedly kept the>the story is about depression and mental illness with a cutesy surfaceera alive well past its prime.
>>741924375Weak bait
>>741923845The other two are Ralsei and Susie specific. Ralsei's is a weapon so it might have a chance of being his best weapon down the line but rn it's not worth it. Just something worth noting for future reference.
>Only Soul Modes left are Aqua (maybe already happened since the obstacles in Orange mode were Aqua colored) and BLUE>We're possibly getting the Blue Soul fight in Castle Town if we wind up needing to go in there to seal the fountain>Blue Mode in Undertale was used by both Skeletons, Sans and Papyrus>Gaster is a skeleton brother as well>There's a conspicuously Blue character in Castle Town that looks a lot like Gaster and has done weird shit this whole timeGUYS. IT'S COMING. THE FIGHT WILL TRULY ROUXL.
>>741924882I soured on Kris a bit for being such a shifty KEK
>>741924941i didn't make it and it's the first time i've posted it
>>741924889>Didn't start doing weird route until later in development...>...Because he realized it was a better path to get to that ENDING he dreamed>Normal Route is a Cucked Setup now to properly justify it.
>>741924887People who never met Ralsei before still know he's a boy. Everyone knows everyone's pronouns.
>>741922080i called this like a week or two ago that sealing the fountains is basically just the needles
>>741924521>gaijin are subhumanAre they wrong?
>>741924660there goes my hero...
>>741922749her point is that she has no autonomy in her life, she's just watching it happen through a windowkinda like susie in the shadow crystal
>>741924903Nono, I know that, but coincidentally, the Weird Route also cuts off in a similar fashion to this scene.>>741924942Im aware, just pointing it out because of the similarities.
>>741924836a e s t h e t i c
>>741924497unironically, why is Blue a gay ballerina? the other flowers correlate to parts of Asgore's life, so was Asgore secretly into ballet or something?
>>741924497 i don't think he was that bad, i just found him boring, not really annoying
>>741924928Toby realized that he couldn't organically include Noelle into the dark worlds again to do it in the hospital or her house so he's going to just have Susie brute force it like a fucking retard.
Oh hey the culture war sharty and or kiwifarms fags found the thread
Flowery calling out castletown like thatKek
>>741924930Should have leaned harder on the influence and made him molest little boys too
>Noelle can equip Aqua's KnifeWhat the fuck
>>741924497i honestly didnt hate bluei hated that yellow instantly turned into a blue simp and his entire character got left behindand that half of blue's scenes were dedicated to simping for susellezesty ass magypsy never got a moment to his own character
>>741923594Asrielknight is not entirely off the table yet tho.The secret messages that Knight and Kris got - they seem like something children would think of. It would be weird if other Holidays, especially Carol, had children coded secret signs with Kris.So it's either the most obvious with Dess, the subverted with Asriel or the "yeah, probably not" Noelle.
>>741924982Yes. They literally lived in their own shit and had to study Europe to uplift themselves. Not replying anymore as thats already too much /pol/ shit
>>741924770Blue made me feel the same way I felt when I saw that vampire faggot in Undertale Yellow.
>>741924798the true ending is him fucking them bothyou have to collect a bunch of specific items from each chapter to get each one of them into berdly, then convince them both to share him.
>>741924742I don't know if anyone's brought this up yet, but if you choose to have Kris close his eyes while Susie and Noelle ride the ferris wheel, he remembers Asriel and Dess riding the ferris wheel years ago. The family is still together and everyone's happy.It's just text on a black screen, but it really stuck with me for some reason.
>>741921885>SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>KRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!>That sfx>That faceHOLYYYYYThe king of ero isn't joking around, he actually did something worse than the roseI get why the doefags are so crazy about weird route now
>>741924961You'll say that next time to
>>741924168>chapter 4 establishes Susie as the best character in the game>chapter 5 tears her to shreds in mere minutesWhat the fuck is Toby doing?
>>741925032Careful, you're not supposed to say that part out loud unless you've already been groomed as a teenager so you can say it was empowering or whatever.
>>741925073take your meds
>>741924996The other flowers don't correlate to Asgore, they correlate to the Undertale children's weapons. The ballerina skirt ties into the ballerina equipment.
>>741924882I want to love Kris but if he doesn't have a good reason for being both an asshole and a cuck then he might kill the game for me. And we might only have 2 chapters left which is not a lot of time.
>>741925042It feels like there's no time to introduce Asriel as a character in this game anymore so him being the Knight feels less likely. I'm doubting he'll even appear.
>>741924818youre retarded. ralsei intentionally hid himself from asgore the entire chapter.
>>741924653Cap'n's dialogue in the Love Dojo this chapter is funny as fuck and unironically salvaged them for me
>>741925075no one knows
Seems like she simply couldn't hold it in anymore. I actually think involving Noelle is a bad decision given that the weird route exist.
>>741924478>>741924563Wait is this real? Undertale and Deltarune are in part inspired by a dream he had? Would be wild to me cause I'm still dicking around trying to write a story based on a schizo fever dream *I* had once.
The Knight is a Dess/Asriel fusion when they died trying to cross the lake and "Asriel in college" is a gaster-level cope mechanism for NPCs. That's why it uses Asriel-like attacks but Dess' bat
>>741921942After how shitty Chap 5 was written? Hell no.
>>741924917
>>741925089You first
Unused dialog for the aborted chapter 4 weird route
>>741923429this, i also find it harder to mash directions faster because the ps5 Dpad is shit compared to a keyboard
>>741924928not to mention that>thanks for walking me homeis said while susie is doing the literal fucking NTR pose of standing in the doorsomeone on the fucking team knew exactly what they were doing and i hate it
>>741922136I mean it was pretty clear the game was about fantasy escapism, most of you simply denied it.The order of events was up in the air and unexpected, but the theme remains the same.Weird route resulting immediately in a drowning is what really shook things IMO.
>>741924547its kinda setting up for it yeah, or at least a major boss at some pointshe's losing faith in the 'light world' and wants to never leave dark worldshe wants to bring other people to dark world too instead of fix the light world problems asgore's imagination causes him to obsess about things to an unhealthy degreequeen tries to keep noelle from waking up in ch2 because of how depressed she isso this combined with darkeners ceasing to exist when a fountain is closed leads to the entire thing is a setup for escapism = bad but imagination = goodwe're 5 chapters in and these rules havent changed a single bit; no other piece of lore or worldbuilding has really changed anything, just extrapolated and reiterated more and more
>>741925071I look forward to the inevitable porn and fandubs of the moment
>>741924790u know what, youre right
>>741924773Why would you invite this schizo retardation
>>741925116>People are in actual danger>So we need to include Noelle who basically spent the whole time being kidnapped last time she was in a dark worldYou know, the brainwashing thing is starting to make more sense. She's not THAT dumb.
>>741925075Making it easier for us to kill her
>>741924962>good ending is getting cucked by everyone you know>alternative ending is killing yourselfBravo Tobias.
>>741925138I do wonder what Weird route Noelle will think of the fact that the Chapter 2 night was real and she actually was responsible for putting Birdley into comatose.
>>741925026>dismantles the protagonist's casus belli>nothing happensyeah sorry MERCY doesn't work on heroes
>>741925069Yeah, I saw that too. I was surprised to see it there. It's worth reading, for anyone who hasn't seen it yet.
>>741924547Personally I always thought it would be Ralsei. It's his entire arc, really. Going from darkner happy to die, to darkner unwilling to let go of lifeAnd lets just think about it, like...he has a castle. He has minions (a horde that YOU are filling with recruits)Why else would Susie become a healer?
Flowery is so fucking right about Ralsei's hypocrisy it's painful
>>741925032>preaching to seth about gender>entering a relationship with justice the retard>every other character displays the opposite of their soul traits implying a total lack of integrityidk man i think he dididk man i think he mightve
>>741925126The lore is he had a fever dream that ended so crazy that it caused him to want to develop a game based around it. He started conceptualizing Deltarune but realized he couldn't achieve his vision yet, so he started working on Undertale as a side project. There's a tweet from like 2011 he made about the dream
>>741924773the only direction i can possibly see a "ralsei's sex" angle going is if it's a naoto situation and he was a girl pretending to be a prince the entire time in order to play the part for the prophecy
>>741925069Kris even regards how Noelle copying Dessriel/Togore lovey dovey antics with KrisIt really feels like Kris is jealous of Susie instead of Noelle
>>741925210i have not seen a compelling argument yet and im wondering what the fuss is
>>741925138God, Noelle really is a fucked up creature, isn't she?
>>741924835i could thanks to the ssri's
>>741925116>People are in actual danger>So lets bring in the person who, as far as I am aware, is a complete damsel who can barely even fightFuckery has to be afoot. Berdley would have made vastly more sense since that bird can fucking throw down and has demonstrated it
We're here next >>741925240>>741925240>>741925240
>>741925138>* If some piece of that power we had was real>* Wouldn't it be amazing?>* Kris, don't turn away, come closer."The truth is, the game was rigged from the start.
>>741925138God, I love this psycho deer.
>>741923469>The entirety of what we have played so far is Side A. >After the final release of Chapter 7, your forced bad ending, something happens. >LOAD CHAPTER 1, SIDE B. >Replay all of the game but this time in a new timeline where (you) are free and can break the prophecy.
>>741925126Toby always said that Deltarune legit came to him in a literal fever dream. But getting there required Undertale to be built, both to say he can do it in the first place and to make sense of the grand scheme of things. This is why Deltarune is the parallel story, not even a "gaiden". It's the one he always wanted to make but just didn't had the confidence, talent, or help to make it a reality.So you know, anon. They say Fail First, Fail Hard, Fail Forward. Don't waste all your energy making your dream come into fruition first chance you get. It will come eventually, so make what you can first and get the support first.
