>Susie's smile, which seemed to defeat everything>Shined on in front of you, and for a moment>It was if all the darkness had been blown awayWow. This was so beautiful Kris, what a way to end off Chapter 4. Good luck in the next one!
Why the fuck is he there if he's not doing anythingNo one likes third wheeling
I'm so glad I never was interested in this cuck game. I feel so vindicated. Never was there an audience that had it coming more than deltarune.
This cuck shit that's been going on since Chapter 2 might be the first and only proof of Toby being funny.
>>741927635Reblogging for Barney the Dinosaur lezzing out with a red-nose reindeer in the summertime!
>>741927635this guy is such a romantic. im cheering for you kris!!!
>>741927635Aren't the two chapters like a day apart too
>>741927738>mfw I only cared because of cute fluffy boys but now he's getting changed into a trannybravo Toby you fucking nigger
>>741927738>>741927902>this is your mind on self inserting
>>741928397I'm the first anon you replied to. If you read my post you'd notice I never played this game. So how could I possibly self insert in any capacity?
>>741927635Why'd that cucked to death pic get popular when this one is infinitely more funny
The romance storyline between Susie and Noelle is one of the blandest, most boring romance stories I have ever seen but hey they're dykes so yurigem or whatever
>>741927635hoes before bros nigga
>>741928723troons before goons
>>741927635This alone justifies Weird Route.
>>741927738gotesex
>>741927635>Ladies and gentlemen, we ASKED Normal route Kris to fuck some bitches right after Chapter 4, and the results we got so far MIGHT shock you
>Kris help me out I just LOOOOVE Susie so goddamn much >Yes maybe she smells like shit because she never goes home>Yes maybe she's pretty stupid because she never took her education seriously>Yes maybe she used to beat you up and I already loved her at that point>Yes maybe she doesn't know shit about me because in her eyes I pretty much didn't exist until 4 days ago>Yes maybe she's a criminali>But you have to understand Kris Toby Fox has a fetish for lesbians so no matter what happens I was written to be in love with her
Susie x Kris was the path. For so many reasons. Lame ass forced Redditor Lesbianism is boring and lame. Always will be.
>>741927635You had time to prepare.Five whole years.You could have listened.
>>741929209lol get cucked kris cuck
What are the chances of Toby Fox being related to Epstein?
>>741927635>I used to beat the shit out of you every day because I was (and still am) MADLY in love with the reindeerI don't care this is funny as fuuuck.
>do normal "pacifist" run>in the part where yellow is strapped to one of the bouncy flowers and is about to blow himself up, he's strapped to a blue upwards-bouncy flower>do last-minute-aborted weird run>yellow is strapped to one of the yellow omnidirectional bouncy flowers insteadi wonder if this is another one of those save file dependent things or if it actually is some weird result of the weird route.or maybe it's just RNG which one you get.
>>741927635The coolest cuck ever
>>741928393SISSIEDANDPANTIFIED
>>741929610cuckery is like multiplying by zero, it doesn't matter how cool the character once was because now they're a cuck
>>741929651Cuck lives matter in this board
So this is the inferno of jealousy. I don't like it.
>>741929746i harbor an acute loathing for cuckolds and cuckoldry of any sort
>>741927635I have a friend who's obsessed with Deltarune and his begging me to play it but I know the kind of person Toby Fox is so i didn't and I'm glad I didn't after hearing how Chapter 5 ramped up the lesbian cuckold aspect
>>741929610>>741929651>cuckSorry bros but in my world he's hooking up with the faggot goat, so he's cool wingmanning his dyke dino bud
>>741929905Literally the same thing happened with me and my friend. These guys are like zombies who want to assimilate you into liking this gay shit. I have remained strong and continued to deny my friend, he's at least cool about not breaking up a friendship over me knowing this game is trash without playing it. Sometimes with certain games, you know it is a waste of time before even playing it. Imagine being one of these people? 8 fucking years for this? LOL
>>741929954I can respect a fag more than a gay, I'll give you a pass. Even though I've heard they're gonna make Ralsei turn tranny, that's not good.
Isn't Kris a girl though
The only cuck is gonna be Berdly when I slam Seth's purple asshole while he watches
>>741930075he's TWO NIGGAS
>Toby goes all in on NTR>Gets a double hit to his NTR fetish from all the anger it'll generate from dedicating the main plot of normal route to Kris being a cuck and making it canon that Kris is into Susie>Will get a third wind from all the anti-NTR fags coping that the writing was shit on purpose and it'll be cleared up in the next chapterLoving every second of it.
>>741930075yeah
>>741930072> a fag more than a gayI meant to say a fag more than a cuck. Oops
>we finally figured out who said this
>>741927635I'm amused I've seen so many complaints that chapter 5 barely spends any time on the festival so we can get a rather forced and rushed romance scene, even from some Suselle shippers. These two literally share two scenes before they decide they want to date. Even for yurilovers, that's way too forced.What amused me in particular is that the spergs from TVTropes removed the part of Deltarune chapter 5's page detailing people's complaints about the chapter, particularly how rushed the Suselle romance is and how Susie acts rather blasé about having her world shaken up just the day before. NO, EVERYBODY LOVES THE NEW CHAPTER SUSIE ISN'T OOC EVERYBODY LOVES LESBIANS, LA LA LA CAN'T HEAR YOU.
>Ok now in between all of the fun silly adventures and shonen battles with lovable characters, the main character will stand there staring miserably as his friends pair off without him and tells him they need to talk about "us"What the actual fuck
Can we just cancel the whole thing? How much brain damage do we have to give to the younger generations until these sick indie creators are satisfied? >>741930095Speaking of NTR how about that Asgore?
>Keep saying it
>>741927635I never understand how can you bottom liberal losers like stuff like this. it honestly looks like garbage and low quality like why do you worship that toby fox guy only good thing about these garbage game is the fanart which looks better than anything that the ugly deformed guy had made. these threads even read like most safe edgy liberal college stuff how can you people even be real you almost rival cringe of tendies.
>>741928393>Next chapter is 20 minutes of Susie and Noelle on Kris' bed, 20 minutes of Ralsei transitioning, and 20 minutes of they, Susie and Noelle having a three-way next to a sobbing Kris and the decomposing body of Berdly>None of it will advance the plot in any meaningful way
>>741930220Are we trying to summon him?
>>741930083
>>741930260>raped dr fans will applaud it anyway
>>741930148I think most people forget that this game takes place over 5 DAYS and not weeks or months, the pacing is so fucking stupid
>>741930193Stop self inserting bro
Yeah, deltarune won’t recover from disaster that is this character
>>741930193>as his friends pair off without himNot all of them.
>>741930095The deer looks like cool character, the lizard looks like garbage, like that fat cat and her dyke lesbo girlfriend or something.
>>741930294Yeah, it feels like Toby and a bunch of fans have gotten so attached to these characters that they think Susie and Noelle have spent way more time together than they actually have. They literally only spoke once before their date, then decide to become a couple right after that. It's both rushed and a slog at the same time.
>>741930095Toby foxe's games are modern art of the gaming.
>>741930119Earm? Or do you think its the freakish Kris/Noelle fusion. That would make them like Zeedmillenniummon from Digimon because Kris is required to not be Kris to achieve this.
Prophecybros how are we feeling?
>>741930302I self insert as the soul I feel bad for my boy throw him a bone for once in his life goddamn
>>741930302I don't self insert as kris nor do I self insert as the heart
>>741930376>>741930095I'd hate to be wokie you guys really got cucked the guy would rather give you some shitty dyke ship that feels forced than what you guys want.
will deltarune have a gygias though
>>741930119Noelle fucks with gaster and our vessel to retroactively blackpill herself in all timelines
>>741930302
Btw Toriel is still a dumb bitch and I hope the game ends with Kris and Asriel leaving her drunk ass to go live with their father who actually cares about them
>>741930095I'm just in it to let myself get disappointed by whatever lore answers we get in the remaining chapters at this point, you don't write NTR like the last 2 chapters by accident and if I was already barely invested in the romance aspects, now I'll just tune it out and take it as a given waste of time to whatever's happening in a chapter.
>>741930550Can't wait for the FRIEND Giygas fight fight desu.
>>741930886>he thinks FRIEND will actually have a fight and not just turn out to be a quick joke
>>741930694Don't you play as Kris? I guess it's subversive to be a loser main character. I haven't played the game.
>>741930920Probably. But who else could make a Giygas?
>>741930962Idk GIMP Rudy or something like that I guess
>>741930369is...is he naked
>>741931085why is her facemore uhdoe
>>741931123cuz /k/ris visits /k/
>>741931085>he
>>741931165>has
>>741931085Do you get into the bath with your clothes on?
>>741927635>the weird route actually results in the good endinggonna be cool to see redditors seethe about that
>>741927635As someone who's waiting for the full release to play but has been somewhat following, could a patient anon explain the following?>I read there's a Normal Route and a Weird Route, but sometimes I'm reading something about a "Sword Route?" Could you explain what the hell it's supposed to be?>Are there sub-routes and do they have any significant differences between one another?>Is the lesbian couple portrayed in a positive light or is there something fucky going on?>Why is Kris humiliated so much when it comes to relationships in this game?>Is the Weird Route straight-up the "evil route?"
>>741930220QRD?
Post our FUARKING Hero from Chapter 5
>>741930369
>>741931197they did a fucking bathwater joke with a 30 year old goat and a teenager
https://vocaroo.com/11cjzPYcxrHNlast time I'll shill this, sweet dreams faggots
I just want one fucking ending bros. I want him to be happy
>>741931260Ralsei is not a middle aged man stop saying this
>>741931283I really wanted a cool weird route where we got him to u se his fireball and actually feel like he could change the prophecy. I hate how he's already given up and we can't help him.
why aren't the goatfags staying in their faggot general filled with fags?
ToT
does anyone have the link to the first thread after chapter 5 released?
>>741930260>>741930291lmao
>>741931297But it's funnier that way
>>741927635>Ralsei already knew of Flowery's incoming fate
>>741931331Wait isn't that where we are now?
>>741931257FUCK. Can't believe I missed the game flag that locks me into the FAGGOTRY route. I picked the option that had to do with Susie so I missed this dialogue completely. Guess I'm replaying ch.5 when 6 gets within release date window
>>741931367w-whwas thatalways there??
>>741931357I love this fucking edit
>>741930698you're gonna have to make sure they stop trying to get their parents kidnapped, though.
>>741931379>>74193136540 year olds dont behave like this you know
>>741931257Happy ending with Ralsei...
>>741931462What.
>>741931416always
>>741931274(You) for effort
>>741931462He's going through manopause, you should be more supportive
>>741930591You're supposed to self insert as "the heart"
Can Flowery do it bros?Can he
>>741931257Straight Kralsei status?
Both routes will be required for the endingRemember this
so are we actually getting a weird route in chapter 6 if you "abort" the route by drowning in the lake before we go too deep?there was no "aborted weird route" jingle after that...
>>741931581If you removed the legs it'd look like it was oppai Kris which is way hotter
>>741931571I'll be his hot gamer boyfriend
Its insane to me that such an interesting game like Deltarune is filled to the brim with niggers like this online.
>>741931640he's CLEARLY blue tho
>>741931569Who says that? I don't have to do anything. The meta fiction is only hinted at
Ralsei was literally born yesterdayHe's as innocent as a young doe
>>741931339>Toby gave us a canon loli>But now he wants to change the shota femboy into a troonThe Lord giveth and the Lord taketh away
>>741931571>the bf is FRIENDkino
The reason the prophecy is so detailed about trivial nonsense is because it is the recording of a previous play through of deltarune and ralsei has seen the entire thing and knows all of the puzzle solutions
>>741931257he's so gay
>>741931672only correct response
>>741931339Krissy if she was a flower.
Chapters 6 and 7 should release together.
>>741931695It'd be way to kino if it was something you could change.>Finish game>Prophecy changes to whatever route you did with a few special panes for random dialogue options you picked>New playthrough's Ralsei is insistent all you did last run is an absolute truth in this new one that can't be changed
>>741931230I wouldn't recommend the way you're doing things, but that's on you man.>Sword RouteA minigame you get in chapter 3 which is the closest thing to the weird route and at least partly (vaguely) depicts it.>sub-routesAt the very least there might be potential for aborted weird routes.>dykesDepends on if you expect Toby to be doing some 4D chess where it's a naive toxic relationship strung along by the prophecy or just a terminal yurifag with a love for NTR. I lean towards the latter, so I'd say it's positively depicted.>Kris humiliatedAgain prophecy/suffering builds character type shit or just Toby being an NTRfag, pick one.>Is the Weird Route the evil route?We don't know what it will ultimately end up resulting in compared to normal, but at the very least you are breaking a bunch of omelettes to get there. In the end are you a means or results first type guy?But outside of that it's just its fun own plot.
Hey remember Ch. 3 when the cactus didn't want Kris to flirt with the watercooler? The strong, easily charmed watercooler with a simple vocabulary? Anyway,
>>741931686I am so okay with this increase of Ralsei in the hot tub art that is spawning
>>741931781The 67 prophecy
>>741931747>Asgore remembers child Kris as a knife-loving maniacUhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>741931781DO NOT>>741931801FUCK
>>741931686Do you not know how old those aspen trees whose roots connect to each other can get?
>>741927734>No one likes third wheelingBoth Susie and Noelle wanted him there as wingman/matchmaker because they had no idea how to handle things themselves.
>>741931795...uh wait holdwait. hold on.does that mean waitdoes that mean the schizoboss from chapter 5 is actually relevant for unlocking a dating route
>>741931686Why is Toby Fox trying you turn me gay
>>741931747>Asgore remembers Asriel as a downieChapter 7 is going to be interesting at the very least
>>741930119total fucking kino if it actually is weird route noelle saying thismakes the cut intro with susie calling out for kris more interesting too, i wonder what susie's role in that is going to be
>>741931675>The meta fiction is only hinted atIts pretty much confirmed you're the soul
>>741931806I mean, Kris before Dess disappeared was very definitely a brat. He's just remembering Kris from a time she was actually happy and not rotting away in her own body.
>>741931795Reminder that the Cactus had a human looking shape like the rest of the flowers and Toby cucked us out of a potential Darkner that loves Kris
>>7419312301. Sword Route is an optional sidequest in chapter 3. It doesn't affect the story (as far as we know).2. There's speculation that aborting the Weird Route in chapter 5 puts you in a new third route. Nobody knows for sure.3. In a positive light.4. Is he? Personally I think people are overreacting.5. It's pretty fucked up yeah
>>741931123doelle is cuter there i said it
>>741931869Kris will also be there to teach them how to have lesbian sex using barbie dolls as visual references
>>741927635japanese sex demon
>>741931882But Green is also the flower everyone is immediately cool and chill with.I wonder Who Seth parallels. Dess? Noelle says she recognizes the glasses if you try to equip them on her.
>Mumble, this old tome admires your... inquisitiveness.>... You're very interested in going nowhere, aren't you?>... well, I have a ticket there. Yes, I have a ticket there... A ticket to nowhere...>Mumble, mumble... But, the ticket is somewhere...>... Yes, it was left here. It was left here by...>Oh, I don't seem to remember...>... You are alone, are you?>Good, it's not a good idea to go nowhere with somebody else...>Mumble, mumble... alone is better...
>>741931926we are not doing feral noellenostop
>>741931878>>741931898>>741931795This is the last fucking straw.If I go through this game one more time on pacifist, never flirting with any monster ever I'm going to film myself smashing my toe with a ball-peen.
When does the Flowery merch starts?I refuse to believe people actually hate this guy
>>741931640no, noi fully support the blacks taking this oneplease, prosneed
>>741931894Chapter 5 might actually be the closest thing we have to a confirmation that Kris is a girl and just turned "genderneutral" after becoming depressed and full of self-hatred
>>741930193kris is miserable because SUSIE HAS FALLEN INTO HER ROLE AS THE GIRL, WHEN THE WHOLE POINT HAS BEEN TO TRY AND CHANGE THE PROPHECY.NOTHING CHANGED.NOTHING HAPPENED.A SUSIE IS JUST A SUSIE.
>>741931781>⟸>⟸>⟸>⟸>⟸What did she mean by this
>>741931893That doesn't mean I have to self insert as the heart
>>741931880Is it working?
>>741930354>singleplayer story based game doesnt follow the same trends as multiplayer gameswwwwwwwwwoooooooooooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwww who could've fucking guessed.kill all steamcharts niggers.
>>741931806aqua is very clearly depicted as being very innocent and curious, there isn't a malicious bone in her bodyhell, noelle even speculates that some of kris' teasing may have actually been attempts at cheering her up, and realizes that they actually did at least some of the timekris was a good kid
>>741932014I thought Apple Girlington would be the one to help the FemKris agenda, turns out it was the cyan soul herself! Not only that, but we also got more hints as to how Kris acted before everything went wrong.
>>741932027As a added bonus, Kris didn't want Noelle involved in the dark world in the first place.
>>741931379>faggotrywont matter when it will be revealed ralsei was a girl all along unless kris is also a girl
>>741931610Is that not what it is?
>>741931958no not feraljust a bit of snoot, that's all
>finish Chapter 5>yeah that was ok >check how the weird route is on youtubeWhat the fuck? despite it being short that was actual kino as fuck. Also susie dialogue in that route feels more like her usual self
Does anyone have that pic comparing Noelle's dialogue if she rides the ferris wheel with Kris and how she reacts to Susie throwing dirt afterwards?
>>741932120I wonder if normal Susie is the real Susie. Like maybe she's just being forced into these feelings by the prophecy and that's shy she feels so different.
>>741931793meant to add/clarify>Sword RouteIt plays like a basic Zelda where you go around with a sword doing what it is you do with a sword, as opposed to the Zelda sections in the main part of the chapter that are pacifist. Playing through it gives you an item that raises defense for the chapter's tough final battle, giving you better chances (you don't need to "win" to advance the plot but you do if you want the ShadowCrystal).Some say the Sword Route is just its own thing and ultimately doesn't matter for the greater path through the game. Personally I think that's coping. That said seemingly only chapter 5's weird route has added something that goes beyond individual savefiles, from what I understand.
>>741932095ralsei is adrogynousbecause he's a plantner whose roots cover the whole mapit explains why he's fucking anywhere you go he has ROOTSHe the forest
>>741932157I have the latter.
>>741932027shadow crystals imply that susie did change, but not for the betterinstead of being jealous and resentful towards kris and noelle, she's instead taken noelle for herself and is charging head first into whatever doom awaits the second herosome of this seems to be part of whatever plan kris has, but either kris is starting to regret it or susie drank much more of the koolaid than expected, possibly both
My new schizo headcanon is that in the original Deltarune the main couples were supposed to be Kris with the Vessel and Noelle with Susie.We would have helped Kris grow out of her self-hatred and loneliness, but since the Vessel is currently stuck in the depths Kris can't do nothing but rot away.
>>741931571>tfw no fat gamer FRIEND bf
>>741932176why does he look like asriel then
When does the nun Tasque Manager appear? I didnt use my main file to get to play Ch5 faster and I didnt see them in main town when I entered. I visited the church even and she wasnt there.
>>741932176I'd let him root me if you know what I'm saying
>>741931976near 100% chance that the extra artwork of him gets posters or prints
>>741931919>>741931230>>Is the lesbian couple portrayed in a positive lightBoth yes and no. Their portrayal is positive for them while at the same time they can look like assholes for someone watching from outside when it comes to how they treat Kris and are all like "Oh hey Kris... you exist too I almost forgot.", or how you feel about Susie too often talking about how her and Noelle are a thing now.Depends on how you look at it. As you can see some like that anon thinks people are overreacting therefore their portrayal being fully positive.
>>741931230The sword route is the twisted sword (abandon weird route after getting the ring) not the zelda minigame that the other two brainlets are telling you about
>>741932194shadow crystal checks in ch5 (and with this new understanding, 4 as well) the main couple seems to have been kris and noelle, with susie being the jealous party where the vessel fits into this is still unclear
>>741932161>I wonder if normal Susie is the real SusieWait are you guys actually serious?You're not doing a bit?You really think that Susie is somehow being mind-controlled by the Prophecy to love Noelle? She can't just actually like her?
>>741932215She's there instantly> I didnt use my main fileSo you didn't recruit her
I NEED a gif of the fox mimic Floradinn painting with its big fluffy FUCKing tail. I LOVE big fluffy FUCKing tails so much.
>>741932207Asriel became treeeeee
>>741931640could you imaginea world without all this woke nonsense?we wouldnt have shit like>KRIS IS A THEY AND RALSEI IS TRANS AND INTEGRITY IS A NIGGER AND THE LESBIANS AND-getting in the way of toby's fever dream.
>>741932186wait can you actually go on a ferris wheel date with noelle? that's cute. i hope it's not weird route exclusive.
>>741931795GET FUCKING BACK HERE AND TELL US WHAT NOT FLIRTING DOESI CAN IMAGINE IT CHANGES THE NORMAL ROUTE SUSIE-NOELLE BEDSIDE TALK NONSENSE SURE BUT I CAN'T IMAGINE IT CHANGES LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE
>>741927635>Kris has to watch as their girl next door childhood best friend and muscle mommy former bully tomboy best friend declare their love for each other RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEMWe have to kill Toby about this
I just finished chapter 2 weird route finallyif I skip the intros of the next two chapters will I miss any unique dialogue?I took her watch in the dark world and it actually made the hair on the back of my neck stand up when she freaked out about it
>>741932276Aren't Shadow Crystals supposed to be broken dreams? One of the visions shows the TV being smashed into bits and I assume that would happen if the Vessel was there or not.
>>741932334just vote for her as queen and kris as king first
>>741932215>Susie invites Noelle to her "house">Everyone welcomes her>"Guys, some of you already know her but this is Noelle, my girlfrie-">Tasque Manager suddenly shouts at them, saying they will be going to Hell if they don't repent and stop with the sin of homosexuality>Noelle runs away crying
>>741932303Susie felt more stupid in a bad way instead of in a Susie way and people can't tell if it's bad writing or if it somehow intentional
>>741932378hell yeah thanks!
Normal route makes it clear what the intended Kris ship is. You're in the same situation as mew mew so they have to learn to love (you).
>>741932303I th8nk Susie suddenly begging to wrar bows is weird and it was the one thing Ralsei said she was supposed to do last chapter
>>741932346It's doubtless that he's already received a few points of psychic damage.
>>741932392Krisoul always wins baby.
>>741932352You can skip the start of Chapter 3 no problem.You cannot skip through Chapter 4.
>>741932337It just says>they seemed relieved you didn't flirt with the watercooler
Hell yeah
>>741932383Anon, name me games where you can actually have your characters declare they think homosexuality is a sin/disgusting/unnatural - criticize it in any way.The only examples I can remember are:>Dragon Age II>ArcanumThat's it. In any other title you're forced into, at minimum, positive tolerance.
>>741932392I, the soul, don't want Kris
>>741927738As an Undertale only supremacist I am vindicated
>>741932358they're made of broken dreams, yeah but iirc they don't show the dream through themi might be swinging at nothing here, but my current thoughts on the origin of the crystals are that they were made by susie desperately wanting to be included in whatever kris and noelle were doinghow this would've happened i have no idea, maybe susie made a reality warping wish at some point to show up to class on time in ch1 to be partnered with kris so she and kris would go to the closet instead of kris and noelle
It's not dess CONFIRMED
>>741932392>makes it clear what the intended Kris ship isYeah, Berdly
I can't keep but with all the threads...
>>741932504ehhi would argue that is ammo for dess knight since it's very heavily implied that she was involved in that one
>>741932504WHO closed the og fountain that killed dess tho? Or is that castle town?
What did Flowery mean by this? How did he know?
>>741932524I haven't even done weird route yet and I've already been spoiled just glancing at the catalog and skimming a fewcan someone link the threads immediately after it came out pls
>>741932504Kind of a chicken or egg thing, we don't know if the black shards made the knight or came from it
how are you anons doing my favorite theory gained more evidence though not a ton (Kris is the girl)My favored ship did very well (Kris Ralsei)
>>741932552castle town or the shelter, although it seems like castle town is relatively new
>>741932498I mean, Tenna's broken dream would definitely be being destroyed as he cannot entertain anyone anymore. Susie's broken dream would be to be alone once again, pushed away from everyone.Kris's broken dream in the aborted Chapter 5 would be to actually see Noelle's Plan come to fruition maybe?
>>741932552It's the bunker
>>741932568Flowery is saying>you trying to be a princess is just you appealing to Kris It's also why Flowery taunts him by saying>don't you like serving humans?
>>741932407She's letting go of her insecurities and willing to try new things and present herself more femininelyRemember the tea party last chapter, where she talks about exactly that?Did you guys also not notice Ralsei being much more aggressive and rude this chapter, to the point of being kind of a dick and bullying people?Haven't you guys realized we're past the inflection point of Susie's Dark Knight to Paladin journey which has clearly been coming since Chapter 1, and Ralsei is having his own complimentary character arc in the other direction?
>>741932207Its the horns.You saw how Spamton's wishful armor from a Lightner was entangled in strings and vines?Notice Chapter 5 Ralsei's description.Kris likely buried the pink horns headband he used as a kid when he was trying to pretend to BE like his family somewhere, Toriel mentions it's lost. That's how Ralsei gets everywhere, buried underground entangled in roots. At some point, Kris is gonna wear it again, I trust it.
>>741932568a lot of darkners seem to be somewhat aware of what happens in other dark worldsalso he calls everyone in the fuck squad princess and was clearly just trolling ralsei
>>741931795>>741932337>>741932463Why make it a point to cuck Kris out of flirting with Mad Mew 2 then? Why make it a point to talk about Krs flirting with other monsters and people in the bedside talk scene? Why was Noelle making those obviously surprised faces?Those two scenes also have to change if nobody's heard Kris flirt!
>>741932568He calls everyone Princess
>>741932568Ralsei likes to be a stepped on fuckboy for Kris but he does NOT appreciate Flowery calling this out
>>741932303100%. "Love finds it's way to the girl" she's being driven by the prophecy. Furthermore she even retcons her reason for being jealous of Kris.
>>741932647i think this is all just driving home that kris has absolutely no control over his life
>>741932637if ralsei isn't a plantner then there's a very good chance he's the missing green crayonin the weird route susie reveals that she has a bright green crayon, which she uses to draw the picture for sans afaik it's described the same way as the box of crayons in kris' house
AIIIIIIEEE
>>741930302It’s not a matter of self inserting, I am not Kris, I am the soul. I function as a secondary being within him, a separate consciousness which can assume control for a limited time. I want to see him excel. I want to see him happy and with people who care about him and won’t use and discard him. The kid has gone through enough, his parents are divorced, his mother is a massive bitch, everyone at school keeps an arms length from him except one who bullied him, and his older brother who was basically his only constant left for college and he is all alone. I am effectively the only being who can help him, and for a while it looked like I was, like shit was actually getting better, despite it all. It didn’t matter if he hated me and wanted me dead and gone as long as he was able to be happy and live a decent life. Then this shit happened, and now he is pushed away yet again. All he has is me, what the fuck am I supposed to do? How would you expect me or anyone else to feel in this situation? Watching your buddy get treated like an unwanted puppy.
>>741932392Nah, fuck Kris.I hate him and chapter 5 doesn't give me a lot to work with once it comes to getting along with him.
>>741932568>Asgore's Rudy simulacrum thinks Kris's Asriel simulacrum is a girloh no no no no no no no no
>did side-B first>can't ride ferris wheel with noelle on pacifist saveFUCK
>>741932706it took me a good minute to realize ralsei didn't have a cig and the brown stick was just the bottom of susie's boots when i saw that scene
>>741932647Kris is a tsun. Tsuns don't actively flirt with the ones they love. They mostly deflect their love.
Kris is a man because Toby can't write yuri, if Kris was a women his interactions with both Susie and Noelle would be at least 100 times worse
>>741932782You did the right choice, but prove it or I'll consider it's fake.
The game really peaked at spamton huh?
>>741932782That's what you get for not chewing your steak
>>741932753RUDY, LOOK OUT
>>741932749>if ralsei isn't a plantner then there's a very good chance he's the missing green crayonthis actually makes sense considering he is also so against him wearing the hat, which makes him look like his real world object
>>741932808but think of it like this anontoby could be pioneering the first mainstream yuri ntr game
>Kris is a man
>>741932827fuckin make me turn the fuckin console back on, gimme 2 mins
>>741932749what happens thenwhen the crayon isUsed up
>>741931197The hat needs to stay ON during sex, Ralsei
>>741931246cuckvid where the cuck filming sounds like dunkey
What's with the trans ralsei shit? Did the tadc finale make people paranoid that every internet indie thing is gonna end with a main character trooning out?
>>741932903ralsei dieds
>>741927635Reminder that Suselle is suddenly speedmaxing because of prophecy messing with them. Susie is slowly randomly thinking about Noelle in previous chapters, then cant stop thinking about Noelle heart beat at all due to them interacting. Susie and Noelle could had sometime shown genuine interest in Kris in some scenes but by the end of chapter 5 the prophecy literally NTR Kris. Toby want you to have personal reason to defy the prophecy and normal ending. Onion San probably got brainwashed by the song too
>>741932645The flowers are neither Darkners or Lightners, they're living plants granted a higher form of sentience. Flowery says they can sense things normal people can't, like the terrible darkness underneath the town, so my guess is most of his knowledge stems from that.
>>741932552Was that fountain ever closed? Maybe parts of the city disappeared to begin with because the roaring happened in isolated areas. Whatever happened to Dess was fountain related, likely Friend murdered her or dragged her, but the sound Asgore showed implied a stabbing. It was also implied through her in-game text that she's stuck somewhere where a light door closed, so she could be stuck in the Roaring.
>>741932903but this is whats weirdwhy the crayon resembling a boss monster
>>741932894>an entire long weird out of place discusison about it>kris and aqua are clearly very related>people still think kris isnt the girl
>>741932935Ralsei goes from using he/him to they/them
>There's only one endingRealistically, how is he going to close this statement?
>>741932971But is still referred to as FluffyBoy afterwards
>>741931195>no
>>741927738this looked like wanky furry shit from the start, glad I dodged it
I NEED ART OF KRIS AND NOELLE DEEP KISSING WHILE DROWNINGTHE FEW NON-DEGEN LOVEY-DOVEY ART ON E621 IS NOT ENOUGH ANYMOREWHY WON'T KRIS HUG HER BACK GODDAMNIT, SHE'S RIGHT THERE AND HE WANTS IT DEEP DOWN
>>741932971only in the titles though, which sparsely mention genders to begin withit could actually just be a nothing burger for once
>>741932971Asgore uses they because he doesn't know what ralsei is.
You did complete 4rd sanctuary without missing a note right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bb2I-8Pho
>>741932898>>741932827
>>741932894>>741932963This "loli" has dick
>>741932995the game doesn't end until you get it rightif you get it wrong, you go back to the start
>>741932995One ending, you can chqnge how you reach it and the implications. Probably a mother 3 ending
>>741932971Asgore uses they cause he can't tell what Ralsei is, he thinks Ralsei is a mutant or something and that it's nice that Kris is even talking to himThe other part about the they/them Ralsei was just a joke
>>741933052And did you vote for her and kris first
>>741931948I presumed they paralleled Berdly at first, but then thinking about it it didn't make very much sense. I mean, Berdly's nerdiness had to have started AFTER Dess suddenly disappeared, since December was a trauma button when that happened at the spelling bee...
>>741932303its like you people didnt even play the game.susie is preparing an entire fucking welcoming party for noelle, not in the "we need your help to fix things" way but in a "i am inviting you to stay in wonderland forever" way.she has been completely lost to escapism and the prophecy, even when people tell her its not real and she still needs the light world she simply sinks further into it.additionally, what about noelle's scene where she ranted about how she simply followed the path of 'noelle' doing 'noelle things' on a day to day basis, and is the only person that noticed how kris is different now. and how kris being different has finally allowed her to break free?>>741932634the biggest theme of the game is that you cant rely on escapism for everything, and that you need a BALANCE of light and dark to maintain an optimal state.susie has lost herself to the darkness, she wants to replace every aspect of her life with the dark world, and wants to drag her few light world anchors into the dark with her.ralsei on the other hand is falling apart at the seams because everything's just marching on and no matter what the gang does, the outcome of the prophecy hasnt changed in the slightest. what pissed him off in CH5 is flowery tempting ralsei with the idea of breaking the rules. he wants to do it, but knows that if he does then it just ensures a worst-case-scenario
>>741933054Ah see you're getting confused, she's a flower, that's just her stem
Noelle likes Susie because she has Stockholm syndrome from dess bullying her and abusing her/Kris. She doesn't like Susie she likes having a replacement dress she can actually fuck and envies Susie who can do whatever she wants.See what happens when she figures out the Kris "changed" from the players action? She goes crazy and wants to fuck in the lake.
>>741933054stop, you're going to make people too horny
>>741931610This nigga is retarded.>>741931581Wtf I'm fine with femkris now?
>>741927635https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SVZZTZtzLsI think people are just not done actually finding all the shit hidden in this chapter yet.This already, confirming the Knight made the first dark fountain and the computer lab's one is huge, meaning the knight was already active way before the story started
>>741933082no
>>741927635the normal route is going to "end" in a timeloop caused by susie to keep the adventures going forever, the real ending is us breaking the loop
>>741932568Because Ralsei is a reflection of Young (wanting to be a monster) Kris, Flowery is a reflection of a Young (Healthy) Rudy. The dynamic is probably how Rudy treated Kris as a kid, that being that Rudy saw through Kris and gave encouragement, but also unwittingly pissed Kris off by being YOUR DAD'S BEST FRIEND and not playing along with make-believe "rules" the right way.This is relevant if Rudy is the Knight, since Ralsei warming up to Flowery is the equivalent of Kris warming up to Rudy and becoming an Accomplice.
>>741931640Gay flower niggers from outer space
>>741933153Well next time complete the prerequisites for events before whining
>>741933009calm down retard-sama, the c-chapter just released...
>>741933090Also if we want to go with parallels, the flowers seem to parallel only people Asgore is friends/close with, and Berdly definitely isn't that close to Asgore.
>>741932995That reminds me>Whose dream? Ralsei's Dream? Susie's Dream?>Noelle's dream? Kris' dream? ...you left it there.What the fuck was he talking about?
>>741933052git gud
>the chapter with cuck content is the one with the most touhou referencesI am noticing
>>741932995There's only one Ending, but it's not decided yet who will play each "role" in that "ending".Kris wants Susie to be "The Girl" in The Ending. The Soul wants Noelle to be "The Girl". In the original ending before people started messing with it, Kris was The Girl, but escaped that fate by claiming to be nonbinary
>>741933181well how the fuck am i meant to know to do that when the ferris wheel is on the screen before the voting and nobody mentions how to do itsame with princess ralsei in the climbing game, how the fuck do i get him up there
>>741933150We knew that already? In chapter 2 you are told the knight made the fountain and as such you would assume they made the others before it
>>741933054You promise?
>>741931230Honestly in the same sorta boat as this anon. I pirated the game but having to wait for the next chapter and the increased amount of fagshit compared to UT is putting me off.
>>741933054aqua is explicitly referred to as a 'she' multiple times and even calls herself a girl when asking seth what he isyou lost, mkris fagus femkris chads found the clues toby left behind and found the truth
>>741933202>>741932186It's funny how Susie tries to divert their attention over to her, but it just ends up looking awkwardEven Noelle is like>wow good for you susie, faha
>>741931257>Picked this because I did not want to hear about Susie being retarded over Noelle and wanted Ralsei to know he's my bro and I'm here for him>This means I'm going to fuck his asshole in chapter 7TOBY
>>741932995>You have to complete the prophecy by finishing ch7 side A>You then have to fuck up the prophecy by doing ch7 side B>You then have to undo your mistakes by doing ch7 side C and ending the game for real
>>741932504it's obviously rudolph retard, we've been telling you since 3+4
>>741933248Yeah I'm talking about the first Dark Fountain bit, whoever the Knight is, has been active for a long LONG time.
what if the flowers are trapped human souls and asgore didnt know because the sketchy flower dealer he goes to didnt mention that detailand that flower dealer's name is
>>741933226>character escapes their fate by doing stupid gender stuffMaybe it wasn't Omori, maybe Deltarune was actually similar to Fear & Hunger 2 all along
>People mad that the thing that has been heavily hinted and worked on for 3 games happened
>>741933201shadow crystal most likely
>>741933226>Kris was The Girl, but escaped that fate by claiming to be nonbinaryThis is the dumbest and gayest r*ddit shit I have read. Kris is the only human and the only one with the cage. Monsters can't have souls. Back to r*rdit.
>>741931197Tranny Ralsei is actually genuinely disgusting.
I think Toby isn't just that competent of a writer
>>741932176>because he's a plantner whose roots cover the whole mapso that's why the door to his room looks vaguely like a tree...
>>741933349no, the flowers all know they're actually flowers and their human forms are just because of the dark world
>>741932253I think the Catti scene alone should be proof that things are not all sunshine and roses.
>>741933385Monsters have monster souls, which are souls.
>>741927635I have to thank Toby for making it so easy to go down the Weird Route. Like I'm going to miss making Noelle deer-gasm to watch some faggot shit.
>>741933385>Kris is the only humanunless
>>741933278Aqua isn't Kris or has anything to do with kris. Why is this thread so shit compared to the other one autosaging? Where did all these retards come from? What time is it in India?
>>741933385undertard still thinks his rules apply to deltarunemonsters have blood, monsters have determinationmonsters don't naturally dust, you eat onions fleshmonsters don't enter a 'fallen down' state, rudy fell off the ladder and broke his ass
>>741933425Catti didn't cry for me. What are you supposed to do/what happens?
>>741933406I dont get how they know what human might bethey only seen boss monster and they not goats
>>741928397I self-insert myself into your momma and I don't have any personality disorders yet.
Kris is a girl but not THE girl.
>>741933385>Monsters can't have souls.Larper-kun...
>>741932792>that one cafe meeting where Ralsei asks one of the flowers if they have any "smoking herbs" they can give himgod damn it, toby
>>741933462Did you do the eyeball bowl after talking to Catti?
>>741933467Kris is a girl when other people are playing her or I want to jerk it to her, he is a boy when I play him.
>>741933463Because Asgore has a human as his child???
>>741933489No I did it before.
>>741933512that only explains aqua though
>>741933463Are you forgetting that Kris exists and has been visiting Asgore?
>>741933160>>741933226combining these...>timeloop theory>kris is a knower and has to set things up from early on to have a chance at changing things>has to pretend to be a they/them monster to avoid becoming [THE GIRL]>rudy is also a knower, but wants kris to face fate head on to change it instead>"im tired of pretending" (endless timeloops failing)>"but if i let myself go like you i could kill you in one shot" (human strength being significantly higher than monsters)>"you know what happens when i break the rules! it'll ruin everything!" (kris being forced into the role of the girl and rendering the whole effort moot)
>>741930939No you are specifically a parasite that can control Kris but they occasionally break control
>>741933451>Aqua isn't Kris or has anything to do with kris.The very specific color Asgore chooses for Kris in his flashback:
>>741933252You just have to tell her that humans have dicks
>>741933427They ain't the separate player soul NIGGER.>>741933454Cage with a SOUL and HUMAN PARTS. Monster is soul combined not separate.Sar pls good morning.
>>741932935>Did the tadc finale make people paranoid that every internet indie thing is gonna end with a main character trooning out?Look at me in the eyes and tell me that is not something Toby would do.
>>741931795>highest attack in the game alongside black shard and twisted sword
>>741933454>undertardmonsters have souls in undertale as well, that anon is just a retarded speed reader, which is the vast majority of the people in these threads and online
>>741933336Toby Fox ain't Yoko Taro anon.
>>741933505holy based
>>741933150The Knight was not responsible for the first fountain, because The Knight is Rudy.There is only... One person who carries a knife at all times with him.>Lost where the forest would grow, the children follow the pointed tail. The poor children!"The one opening the Dark Fountain, was Kris. But this also implies Friend was around, without the need for one. Did Kris get tricked into opening one? Did Dess end up paying for it? Asgore implied there was a stabbing sound.If Friend is like Barubary, then he likely showed up as an apparition.
>>741933539damn ralsei is also a woman (the chef)?
>>741933467Deltarune but Live Action
>>741932514>that shit that's pulled out of nowhere disregarding your previous treatment of Berdly completely>the blue fag nigga>that whole discussion the flowers had about what you areShit like this is what makes me believe that cope that Toby just let some of his writers do whatever they want with some parts of it after he was done with all the Japanese stuff in it.
>>741933336something something coin on its side
>>741933451aqua and kris have a lot of parallels and the game very clearly wants you to see and notice themeven if aqua isn't 1:1 with kris as a child, she almost certainly is supposed to resemble that stage in kris' life
>>741933580neither toby fox nor yoko taro could have made project nortubel
>>741933598>damn ralsei is also a woman (the chef)?>Ralsei is going down the tranny routeTranny and downie
>>741933539Reminder that Yellow and blue mixed together make green, and Asgore at the beginning of his flashback was colored yellow.
>>741933473Very happy to see this dumbass image still getting referenced.
>>741930020Millennials had kingdom hearts. Zoomers have DR. Both are absolute dogshit series.
>>741933463kris is a point of reference they all would knowthere's also a chance that the seed supplier was humanasgore also has a tv in the same room and may watch human shows from time to time
>>741933604Braces activate something in my brain and I don't know why.
>>741933607When Noelle finally sees the puppet strings she's going to go absolutely fucking nuclear and I can't wait.But I fucking have to because Toby wants us all to suffer.
>>741933539And Asriel is green and asgore is the red soul. The flower colors are not a reflection of any character in the game. Gotta be Jeets.
>>741933336Unironically makes me want to see crossover fanart with black souls because of chapter of 4 and now this.
>>741933619Aqua isn't really a prankster, thoughShe's more like an unchained Frisk that doesn't flirt
I'm doing weird route nowis it possible to miss it and go back to the normal route after chapter 2or am I locked in now
>>741933598What was one of the first thing he tried to bribe Susie with? Food cooked by him.
>>741933393Tenna won
>>741933505True, gonna gen myself some femkris now.
Is the text dump site updated?
>>741933718You can miss it on chapter 4
>>741933729Tenna always wins.
>>741933637>Asgore's soul was yellowYeah because he followed Justice, but then he became DETERMINED to find out the truth about that event, so RED
>>741933547you could rope aqua into so much fetishistic shit by simply playing on how dull she is.>tell aqua about the 'eating game' to skip her battle.>she's a bit fatter in every scene
>>741933717noelle speculates on the ferris wheel that kris' pranks may have actually been kris attempting to cheer her up/ distract her when she was upsetseems like something aqua would do if she grew a little more
>>741933734Nope, not yet. It will update on July 1st.
>>741932568I can't believe I got cucked out of this shit for a dumb star walker joke. What was all of the Princess Ralsei dialogue?
>>741933718Just never back down with anything involving Noelle and you're in
>>741933619What does it mean?
>>741933718You can abort it in chapter 4. It gives a tiny bit of new Noelle dialog in the festival.
the discussions after this chapter are just giving me a headache. really feels like it's all grasping at straws this time
you faggots are genuinely retardedthe flowers are their own entities, not reflections of the characters. they got their personality from asgore. he talked to them and told them stories and that gave them personalities. that's why flowery is kinda like rudolph and aqua is like kris, but that doesn't mean aqua is literally kris and because she's a girl kris is a girl too
>>741933226Close, Kris was the Prince from the Dark, The OG party was, Vessel (HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!), Dess or Noelle (THE GIRL) and Kris (THE PRINCE FROM THE DARK), The original prophecy is that THE GIRL gets the SOUL from THE CAGE, The shattered part is that THE PRINCE dies, THE GIRL bypassed this by giving up the SOUL to THE PRINCE. Now THE PRINCE is THE CAGE (a corpse (parts) with a SOUL) and the Prophecy is repeating.Noelle is the ANGEL, the ANGEL'S HEAVEN is her getting to break the game, this is why she is "Waking Up", this is why Kris wants her uninvolved. Noelle is the Final Boss and Kris knows it.Keep in mind this doesn't mean that Kris isn't a girl and ALSO qualifies for that role, the point is that Ralsei going "They/Them" but presumably getting to keep the "Prince" role, means the same would apply to Kris.
>>741933072He thinks Ralsei isn't a monster, which is a bizarre observation to make.
>>741933791Dess wore glasses.
>>741927635>Yellow is constantly trying to kill himselfThis is literally just Toby making fun of Undertale Yellow, isn't it?
>>741933451piling on the other things, aqua's ribbon is explicitly designed to resemble a red heart.
>>741933791noelle doesn't want to look like burghly
>>741933791Birdley? He wears glasses.
>>741928397As opposed to the tranny self-inserting into Suselle...?
>>741927635reminder the prophecy got fucked up because kris was late to school and wasn't able to be noelle's partner
>>741933796Well there's nothing new truth be told
>>741933791Asriel is a twink with glasses confirmed
>>741933824Pacifist DOES ask you to kill yourself so I can't really blame him on that part
>>741933796filler chapter moment at least weird route sama is here to save us
>>741933718there's a way to fail out of the "weird route" and return to the "normal route" all the way up to and including act 5. However depending on how far you go, it has lasting (minor) consequences and is referenced. If you fail out of it in chapter 5 it breaks reality to force you back on track
>>741933797pack it up cucklord, Kris is a girl and the soul (me) is inside of her
>>741930083And I'll take her pussy.
>>741933797what the fuck did he tell blue to make him so zesty?
>>741933824highly likely
>didn't take the knife because I already have the black shard>didn't realize that the knife is kris's best weapon for non-violent encountersMy save file is bricked
WHY the fuck is he selling shit in undertale currency and then correcting himself? Why wasn't her here at all during weird route according to Susie? What's his deal?
>>741933718You can even lose it on chapter 5 as some did because they didn't learn and didn't Proceed hard enough, ending up disappointing Noelle harder than anything else in the game.
>>741933875i don't understand why everyone is calling this a filler chapter, a lot of interpersonal characterization happened this chapter, do you retards think none of this isn't gonna come up later?
>>741933815Now why on Earth would Asgore's flower shop have Dess paraphernalia in it?
>>741933718Not in chapter 3 but you can abort it in chapter 4 and 5.
>>741933824I immediately assumed it was referencing this
>>741933804Isn’t the Angel pretty heavily implied to be (You) though?
>>741933904>stops you from going to the lake>onionsan goes missing the next day>he's selling octopus that tastes like oniongee i wonder what happened
>>741933917no plot, that's why
https://youtube.com/watch?v=icSFp_Vc7bo&pp=ygUVZGVsdGFydW5lIHdlaXJkIHJvdXRl>Noelle's portrait gradually transitions from white to grey as she submerges underwater>Final portrait goes back to whiteShe made it to Undertale.
>>741933824It's a reference to Negative Man from Mother 3 Because yellow
>>741933892He was in a weird mood for a while after Toriel left him okay...
How did the knight carry Asgore to the shelter?
>>741933917jee I fucking wonder why
>>741933943Not really
>>741933619Okay got ya so Susie is orange then because she can wield Orange's glove! And then she must also be Seth cause they are both purple. And ralsei is the chef! He doesn't talk. Lots of parallels! Not at all what it represents. Like you dumbasses just see two colors and go ayup dey iz da same. Nigga twinkle is kinda blue too must be similar.All the flowers were attempting to "be human." This isn't unique to aqua. Reading is tough.
>>741933917Nigga we are in the 3rd act and this chapter is either 99% filler and MAYBE 1% important if the brainwashing prophecy theory is correct.
this is probably a retarded questionwho is the depressed character running the cliff shop? That's orange next to them, but who's on the left?
>>741933904I can't believe Asriel 2 is fucking dead and fried
>>741933583Thank you brother.>>741933731Enjoy yourself, and maybe post anything good that gets made.
>>741933917In what way?Ralsei was already flipping his shit in 4.
>>741933815>>741933791It's Berdly. She rejects whatever reminds her of Berdly
>>741934005its pink.
>>741933943Are you brown?
>>741934005Mew Mew
>>741934005it's pink and orange
You DID give Ralsei the drink token they wanted, right?
>>741931883>makes the cut intro with susie calling out for kris more interesting toothe what?
>>741934005Hatsune Miku
>>741934005That's DA MEW
>>741933987pretending to not understand because you disagree is very unbecoming of you, anonjust suck it up and say you don't like it instead of coping about it
>>741934005it's pinkyea the boss fight is written like shit
>>741933917Sure but you can he both. What am i supposed to discuss now? How badly written Susie is now thqt suselle is in full swing? That's not really interesting
>>741933964>A monster with a human SOUL can pass through the barrier.oh fuck youtube commenters aren't brain dead golf fish.
>>741933987i cant even say you might be retarded, you're just a mouth drooling dumbfuck outright.
>>741934034the costume and personality is completely different and she acts like she's seeing you for the first time when you boss fight, though. That's what's confusing me.
>>741933917we're 5/7 done with the game, and still made literally no progress plotwise ch4 goes all serious and rises the stakes then all of that just gets ignored here and you have a silly adventure where nothing happensthe festival was hyped for the whole game like it was going to be something important and just ends up being like 5 unimportant interactions
>>741934049Naturally. Susie stealing my boy's drink after all that was the final straw that has cemented her as WORST GIRL.
>>741934049I just wanted to make him happy by giving him his drink but apparently I helped him become trans or something?
>>741933964ok but seriously, noelle is clearly testing the confines of the game right, like she has to know that they won't die from this subconsciously at least.
>>741932253>they can look like assholes for someone watching from outside when it comes to how they treat Kris and are all like "Oh hey Kris... you exist too I almost forgot."Nigga you've never seen a couple in love or what? Straight ones do that shit too.
Are you telling me there's NO cool reactions from Kris in the mew mew fight? Like he just stands there not even commenting on the whole "body vs soul" thing?
You know, months ago when some anons complained that the Titan fight was way too early into the story maybe they had a point
>>741934093>ch4 goes all serious and rises the stakes then all of that just gets ignored here>the festival was hyped for the whole game like it was going to be something important and just ends up being like 5 unimportant interactionsThese.ESPECIALLY the festival. Holy shit I cannot believe what a nothingburger that turned out to be.
>>741934153he fucked up, ch5 should have been 4i seriously believe nintendo is secretly fucking with this
>>741934153in a lot of ways it feels like 4 and 5 should have been swapped
FLOWER MANFLOWER MAN
>>741934052way way back people found some stuff in the ch1 files that had susie yelling to kris right after the vessel is discardednobody has any idea what it means, but with the idea that weird noelle is the discarder, this takes a more interesting turn with the lens of the weird route https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXeftLB9UTo
>rudy collapses early on>guess who doesn't show up until the very last minute>and when they do, they're visibly fatigued and barely able to fight a fraudGuess there's no denying it now
>>741934034>>741934040>>741934045>>741934059>>741934072but her outfit and personality are all completely different? what? Like I see that it's a girl with cat ears that's with Orange selling the pink key, so I was thinking "I guess it's mew", but then the costume is completely different and the hair-cut is different (which is harder to explain with a wardrobe change), and she's not pretending to have the pink personality, and she doesn't recognize you later, so I was second guessing thinking "that can't be mew". But I guess it is?
This chapter is weaker than four, bgl
>>741934161>Hype up the ferris wheel since chapter 2 >Have a big ass ferris wheel for your shittu suselle scene>Have riding with noelle for weirs route be a big important choice for the route>3 and 4 mention the festival and ferris wheel a few times>Chapter 5 >Ferris wheel is a big as Ice e pizza and is skippable.????
>>741933941literally me
No sexualizing Aqua, please.She is too precious.
Ralsei egg cracking next chapter btwAnother """"femboy"""" claimed
>MORE unused items>MORE unused lines for dark world Noelleeither she's in ch6's dark world or loop theory is 100% confirmedno reason to have any of this shit
We pretty much have all the pieces to puzzle what happened back then.>Asgore taking care of the kids>The children get lost somewhere on the map where the forest would end up growing later in life>They were following a long tail>Likely this led them to a boundary of the map>Friend was just outside of the boundary all dark and hiddenNow let's go over the actual facts>This is a Breath of Fire reference so a monster and children were involved>Chapter 3 implies Kris let something like glass slip through his fingers like water (a Shadow Crystal)>He couldn't find his hand>We know from Asgore there was a stabbing (this could imply it was a Dark Fountain made from Kris after his hand became a goner, he touched the boundaries?)>Dess is the victim of these events>The children had to take therapy after the fact>Noelle mentions Dess "left">Dess inside the code has lines implying she's somewhere similar to a Roaring world, where eternal Darkness is the only thing that exists but she's very lucid
>>741932782You can though,>king and queen for noelle and kris>from there you can ride the ferris wheel
>>741934218That's Toriel's dialogue noise slowed down. Are you retarded?
>>741934213The man who carried an entire chapter on his back
>>741934196>nintendo is secretly fucking with thisFox moved to japan so nintendo can put a ballgag on him and fuck him in the ass like he always imagined. I really doubt Off's re-release wasn't caused by Fox being happily choked by some zipperhead.
>>741934153it actually isn't but the problem is there's been literally zero progress in the storylike even in the first two chapters, nothing actually happens. yeah you learn about the themes and characters and some character development happens but what about the actual story? it's all character moments and vagueposting. chapter 5 out of 7 should've meant basically the endgame territory, but it doesn't feel like that at all
>>741933943I agree possible, but i think Noelle bringing up wanting wings is what pushes he probability through the roof, and she already had things pointing to her as early as Chapter 2. Let's put it this way, Noelle is the Angel, (You) are her wings. The Heaven is "across the water".
>>741934093god the festival was such a let downit had been built up since ch2 and it's a total nothingburger of suselle slopyeah sure there are a couple nice moments if you single out noelle or susie, but ultimately they don't mean shit because kris still gets treated like a starving dog and gets his soul crushed at the lake
>>741934196>nintendo is secretly fucking with thisalright, I'm out, the fan base for this game is all underage and unbelievably retarded.Somethings can just be bad. Sometimes a part of a thing you like are bad
>>741934256I'm gonna sex that stabby thing and you can't stop me!
>>741934246>whole game is about escapist fantasies >while in the escapist fantasy world the characters have an over-the-top absurd idealized version of an event>the "real" version is trivial and patheticthis is ludo kino you failed the test of the dark world by getting lured with its false dreams
>>741934221They ran into a wall at break neck speed to out run Flowery. You even see them go>oHSHITbefore hitting it.
>>741933917Because literally nothing fucking happened. Susie was written like a retarded fangame character, Ralsei was being super bitchy considering what a downer CH. 4 ended on, but the HUGE DOWNER that was Ch. 4 was treated like it literally never happened. Susie standing in the rain after Kris has to see his mom being a drunken whore and having that aspect of her worldview shattered alongside presumably seeing that according to the prophecy something REALLY BAD is going to happen? Oh my Gosh I gotta get ready for my BIG DATE with a GIRL who I barely know and who barely knows me!!!!And then the Dark World, good characters and moments aside, was literally all vague posting. This shit didn't need to be a chapter. Nothing of fucking import happened besides confirming Susie is freefalling into delusion.
>>741934093I'm starting to genuinely believe that's the whole point of this chapter: that it's fundamentally forced. Maybe it's just cope, but it's the only logical explanation I can see for this mess of seemingly connectable elements. So far, the prophecy is being followed to the letter.But will Kris end up breaking, even though they seemed to be the one most determined to see it through? While Susie, on the other hand, ends up embracing it and pushing it to the very end, all while denying the outcome everyone expects?
>>741934337>Susie was written like a retarded fangame characterThis has been said for every chapter since 2 onward. I think you just don't like Susie.
>>741934256Threesome with Aqua and Kris (Female) while Susie, Noelle and Ralsei are forced to watch.Berdly can join.
>>741934256Too late, she's already sexy
>>741934196no way, i think it was the troon brigade he hired after ch2 finally getting their hooks in with ch5it almost certainly got rewritten at some point, there's no way toby thought this would've been satisfactory to cap of 2-5, or even 3-5 with all the crazy shit that happens in those chapters
>>741934080Indians 60 IQ hours.>>741934061Your connection just isn't a connection at all. It's retarded. Straight plebbit shit. Flowers took on their own roles based off of what the original souls in undertale. Aqua is fucking patience. Like it really isn't that hard. Kris is holding the red soul. Nothing to do with aqua other than sharing a game color. Flowery replaces the red soul.I think tadc is more your speed!
>>741934196>>741934208Yup.Maybe he was afraid that the stakes wouldn’t be raised enough so he put 4 earlier, but then it turns 5 into an awkward rerun that’s pretending we DIDN'T just barely stop a Titan. It should have just been cut if he wanted to hurry the story along that badly, but he’s too much of a weeb to do that.
>>741934059Honestly ship this more than the other ones
>>741934278didn't toby back away from the off remake press stuff once people found out he shit up the ost by inserting his leitmotifs everywhere or am i misremembering
>>741934393maybe like >>741934376 anon says that the troon brigade made him rewrite the flower chapter to be as gay as possible so he had to swap them instead
>>741934360>starting to genuinely believe that's the whole point of this chapter: that it's fundamentally forcedit's definitely possible but the people outside of /v/ seems to appreciate the new developments and are gushing about how cute and wholesome it is, so it's probably a copei won't be surprised if it turns out to be all fake forced wholesomeness because there's definitely enough stuff to support that but i'll treat it as a shitty chapter until 6 comes out and confirms it
>>741934387>he unironically thinks TADC and Deltarune aren't on the same levelThe goyim have gone insane
>>741934453you guys should really read toby's old forum posts and stop headcannoning the politics of another human being
>>741927635Behead yurifags. Behead Plebbitors.
>>741934361it's somewhat noticeable in 3 and 4 but 5 drives her off a cliff you have to be crazy to not notice the difference
>>741934361No? Chapter 2 Susie wasn't the same asshole she was in Chapter 1. Then she improved as a person in 3 and 4. It just makes no fucking sense for her to be acting the way she is in this chapter considering everything else that fucking happened. She left Chapter 4 dejected as all Hell from losing two important adult figures back to back - Gerson, and then Toriel. They failed to stop the Knight twice. It was clearly weighing on her. And then CH. 5 acts like shit never fucking happened when it was, at most, an EIGHT HOUR gap. You could look me dead in the eyes and tell me Susie was replaced by one of those fox mimics and I'd believe you.
>>741934479i forgot chapter 3do i have to s rank every single board the first time??even in weird route??
>>741934317But you can't do it twice in the same way or she'll get boredSecond round is always mandatory role reversal
Next game should be an h-game with the same amount of routes/small dialogue differences and corruprion aspect from weirs route
>>741934387Anon, Aqua is literally the opposite of patience. Every single one of these flowers is quite the contrary of what their souls represent. Remember Flowey? The powerless, soulless flower that stole the souls? Who lost his admin rights as soon as you came in? Flowery on the other hand has bullshit admin rights immediately because unlike Undertale that shit doesn't matter here, he is a prick that actually gives genuine advice, and doesn't actually want to kill you.It's genuinely not hard to see this. Why do people think these flowers represent the souls?
There's a chance Entry 17 may be referring to WR Noelle and Kris
>>741933983that's my biggest gripe with chapter 5, i don't mind that it's a bit more filler and is clearly setting up shit, but it would be nice to have some actual fucking confirmed answers like why Asgore lost his position or some more insight into some other shit. that said it'll probably not be that big of a deal if you were playing Deltarune as a complete full game, because you'd get the cooldown/lower stakes of chapter 5 for a bit then some serious chapter 6 stuff will happen
>>741934479Those very forum posts show he likes when stuff like that isn't all front and center. He prefers a subtler approach.
>>741931898>plants and presumably animals are technically lightners>but because of the whole animism and pretend nature of dark worlds they get turned as well>plantners (?) are something in-between the linesnow how do we fuck the cactus
>>741934256Too late buddy
Everyone is calling Kris a cuck but what can you even do in that situation except just accepting defeat
Gaster is non-canon in Deltarune
>>741934479Yeah Toby is a faggot but he does tranny fag shit appropriately usually. Not this garbage where he just straight up literally says wow you don't have a gender? That's okay! You are so valid and non-binary and you can pick your gender and that's a good thing!That's shit. A lot of the flower break scenes were shit.
>no "chapter 6 2027" in the endit's ogre
>noooo guys susie is not written retardedly>WOAH KRIS, A DARK FOUNTAIN? RIGHT HERE? IN THE 5 SECONDS I LEFT YOU ALONE? NO WAY, HEY KRIS DID YOU SEE WHO MADE IT?
>>741934563>He prefers a subtler approach.>circa 2015 undertale where undyne and alphys exists>or the 2 gay bros in hotland?
>>741934479i'm not saying toby isn't a millennial leftist i'm saying ch5 is written very much not like the prior chapters and the only reasonable explanation is that the people toby hired had much more influence on it people are saying ch5 feels like a glorified fan game and i can't fully disagree with that sentiment
>>741934553Very likelyBut then what kind of experiment is Gaster talking about? What will happen? Gaster seemed to suggest he was about to drain all the light from an area.
Toby is a Woke Chud.
>>741934575Very carefully.
>>741934595>Tricky Tony announces chapter 6+7 at December 25 >doesn't announce it, just fucking drops it he doesn't have the balls to do it
Chapter 5 is fanficThe troon codevs have completely taken over
>>741934583maybe not pursue your evil plan for 4 chapters straight
>>741934583Leave
>>741934583>what can you even do in the situationALL THE OTHER KIDS IN PUMPED KICKS
>>741934583leaveit sucks ass but there's more dignity in leaving than staying
>>741927738weak to anal gote
>>741927902I get what he's going for, while Kris and Carol and (You) are all stuck in the past, Noelle and Susie are totally heckin' moving on and making a new bliss for themselves and (buzzwords).It's just kind of stupid because we're fucking gamers and are invested in the things that the game is made of. We're not like the characters inside of the ROM, we actually have to spend mental effort getting invested in your media. I don't care if the only thing the characters want is to leave and turn off the game; I can do that at any time, your job as a developer is to make me not want to do that.
>>741934583Saying fuck this and leaving is an option. Politely refusing to be involved at all is also an option.
>>741934492Nah susie has been a retard since the beginningIts obvious why Kris/Knight had her shoehorned in as the second hero because she doesn't really think about anything
THE MANWHO WASKEKEDTO DEATH
>>741934558I think playing the game as a complete package will make the sudden tone shift from the end of 4 to the start of 5 stick out like a sore thumb.
>>741934647ok, but to him that's probably the only way out of everything
i forgot chapter 3do i have to s rank every single board the first time?even in weird route?
Why the fuck did you expect something else from HIM?
>>741934583take the moment to sneak off and make the flower world dark fountain rather than having to rush against the incredibly short timer of susie buying flowers.
>>741934671weird route, side b or aborted, make it very clear that noelle feels trapped and falling into susie arms isn't helping, it's just changing one prison to another
>>741934694>only S rankngmi
>>741934661This is it, lesbians also generally make for very poor friends. Say what you will about faggots but they tend to care for their friends, lesbians operate like sociopaths. Beware lesbians they're unironically evil people.
>>741934276Nah pretty much every new Darkner was stellar, except Blue who I didn't really hate he was just kind of thereThe flowerdins and netskies were fun as hellSusie spending half the chapter as ilovenoelle.mp3 is what nearly killed it
>>741934694yes if you want the mantle just get all the bonus stuff, they make up for any errors as long as you don't fuck up majorly
>>741934543They do represent the souls. Yellow is literally justice - that's the easiest one to follow. But they are the opposite of the trait the soul represents or bad at it because they aren't human they are trying to mimic it. Aqua is literally impatient. That's the point. How do people not notice this? Crazy! Aqua gets bored and impatient every fight. Orange wants to be brave but fails. Seth gives up constantly...But naw fuck that Kris iz da aqua color like da crayon and so iz aqua : )
>>741927635>They hear a bell ringing at the lakeThey start obsessing over their heartbeat after that. Its Prophecy actually brainwashing them. Onion san tried to warn them
>>741934694Assuming you want to be able to play through the Sword Route, yes.
>>741934695This reminds me of that Scott Cawthon vs Toby Fox meme that went around for a bit
We all agree chapter 4 is still the best chapter right?
>>741934583Leave the gals for their dateEven staying with berdly is a better optionGo with temmie?Don't fuck it to that point is a thing too!
>>741934714Nigga needs his sleep man he's been awake for 24+ hours at this point
>>741931581ralsei's going to chop is dick off and kris already trooned out forshadowed by seth
>>741934521Either that or you can Z-rank, which is almost as complicated.
>>741934558man you don't spend a whole chapter "setting up shit" 5/7 into the story. all chapters other than 4 has been just setting up shit the whole time. what even happened since chapter 1, there's been pretty much no progress in the story
so that scene with the boxes and red lines, asgore became true detective obsessed with a case that eventually pushed away his family? is that correct?
>>741934695i 'member when it was austin jorgensenpoor dude, leftists fucked him up bad when he was at his lowest
>>741934797i genuinely thing chapter 3 is better than chapter 4, i don't understand the obsession with chapter 4
>>741934808Deserved for being a schemy little faggot.
>>741934583Tell them you don't want to see this gay shit, fuck off, and then avoid them as they inevitably increase the rate of domestic abuse in the town.
Here's a whitepill for any Krusie/Kriselle and even Ralsus shippers:This chapter had a very negative reception by even Suselle shippers on how it was handled to the point there's an all-time low art of it.And not just that, plenty of Suselle shippers aren't too happy with it the more time passes and they see the differences from other routes and dialogue options.
>>741934683kris was doing such a sloppy job in ch 5 even susie was suspecting shit though
>>741934797yeah4 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 5not including weird route, obviously
>>741934828undertale was structured exactly like this
>>741934828You collect more shelter codes, so you can go there and rescue people. How this is supposed to stop the knight from making more fountains? Good question.
>>741934774Saved
>>741934831That guy had a legit psychotic break after his dad died, I feel bad for him.
>>741934829yeah but in a retarded loser cuck way and not in a cool self-destructive way
>>741934774Say what you want about Toby, but at least the games are self-contained. And not retconned every other instalment.>but the ARG!Completely optional. Game is comprehensible without it.
It's genuinely so funny that Susellefags genuinely think that surface level relationship isn't being forced by the prophecy. Susie isn't the girl in the normal route.>THE FIRST HERO. THE CAGE, WITH HUMAN SOUL AND PARTS!>THE SECOND HERO. THE GIRL, WITH HOPE CROSSED ON HER HEART.>THE THIRD HERO. THE PRINCE, ALONE IN DEEPEST DARK>AND LAST, WAS THE GIRL. AT LAST, WAS THE GIRL.Look at the fucking order. The last one to join the party is Noelle.>B-but it has Rude Bus-It means the prophecy has already exchanged roles. Susie and Noelle traded places.
>>741934850Screenshots?
>>741934829More or less.
>>741934829he became determined to figure out what happened, at the expense of everything elsethat's why he went from yellow to red
>>741934828too bad buddy, tiny tone's gonna setup stuff in chapter 6 for chapter 7 he's got new york union construction worker blood in him, all setup, payoff in 30 years just believe in him
>>741934850Toby "I Need Yuri In A Hurry" Fox does not care about fans.
The damage control for Toriel at the start was sickening. It's something that was clearly put in in response to the fans. That's what insecure writers do, and Toby avoided until now.
>>741932963if kris is the girl why does "she" get cucked so badly
>>741934853he rushed desperately to make a fountain in the flower shop and accidentally created flowers able to give susie information she never would have had otherwiseand they outplayed himkrisyou got outplayed by flowersfuckinflowersthe knight will laugh about this in the phone call to you tonight
>>741934853Suspected but she still brushes it off lmaoShe is Maelle level of delusional right nowIgnoring everything about the reality in front of her so she can make more make believe.
>>741934773does that have any new content if I'm on the weird route?what was the point of toby making an alternate route where 90% of the chapters are still the same
>>741934891I used to hate Scott but I am impressed at how much he did with so little. I don't even like fnaf all that much, but still. Undeniably he played to his strengths.
>>741932746>What is the snd_ominous_hell sound in the gameLate post but I'm posting it anyways, it's just the more extreme ominous sound when Proceeding in the lake.>snd_ominous_hellhttps://files.catbox.moe/b7s7v4.mp3>snd_ominous_hell_superhttps://files.catbox.moe/wx000p.mp3
>>741934927Because the girl and her love suffer a tragedy. Getting cucked allows Kris to live.
>>741934850i've seen people say that toby fox flat out does not know how to write women in the ch5 reception lolfucking imagine being known as this huge yurifag and the designated yuri chapter is shat on by everybody because they think it's written like shit and too in your face
Toby managed to make me loathe Susie's existence even though I loved her from Chapter 1I can't believe I fell for that self-centered retard
>>741927635i have no sexual attraction to either susie or noelle but i hate suselle with a burning passion meanwhile i actively want to bang undyne but alphydyne has never bothered me and i don't know why
>>741934923Sadly nobody noticed the damage control for Sans>Filled up their fridge with food, shown by how the Ketchup wasnt there anymore
>>741934927Kris isn't the girl Kris has a dick and balls and shares a room with asriel who has a dick and balls
>>741934948>does that have any new content if I'm on the weird route?A single line, iirc
>>741934838based, although I'm a sucker for Tenna so I'm biased as hell3 > 4 > 2 > 1 > 5
>>741934829Yeah, but in a "I am going to torture the one who did this to death" wayThere's no way you just abandon that level of obsession and determinationAsgore is going to pull an Agni and not be able to walk away from all this
>>741934850suselle obviously isnt happening, that whole thing is supposed to be awkward and concerning rather than nice and wholesome. susie's close to a breakdown and has been doing everything to cope with what happened in ch4that wasn't the issue with the chapter, it's still bad despite that
>>741934923The damage control is in-universe. Torial is canonically a manipulative whore.
>>741934853little dude is running on fumes at this point hasn't had anything resembling a decent sleep since friday in classno shit he's making dumb mistakes and so completely out of it, it's a miracle he's still managing to wander around town
>>741934938kris had one job, destroy a tiny piece of paperhe didn't even have to lug asgore's fat ass to the bunkerand he couldnt even do that loll
I can't see aqua's face as anything other then ._.
>>741934850On my first playthrough i noticed weird stuff with Suselle making them look rushed and undeveloped. Even Susie confesses in the dark world that shes overwhelmed with it only recently being excited to make friendship with Noelle, only to now officially dating day later. Susie forgot to actually defy the prophecy as she promised to Ralsei and Kris. Shes too excited to become a hero because she want to feel important.
>>741934273are you?
>>741935013And he also took out the trash.
>>741934774I prefer Toby Fox vs Sebastian Wolff
>>741935049That wasn't his objective, Asgore still knows the bunker codes most likely without the note. They wanted to take Asgore out of the way.
>>741934798>Even staying with berdly is a better optionWell, I WAS TRYING TO SINCE I WAS BERDLEY MAXXING. This is why Susie is NOT a Bro for FORCING the thirdwheeling. I WANTED THE SUV DOUBLE DATE!And honestly considering how Berdley acted (Just telling Noelle to go get it and that he'll wingman her) i'd say the story tries to hard claiming he is "terrible". he's a good kid.
>>741934850ive noticed the only people who have even praised the suselle shit are literally incapable of articulating why its even good outside of "its yuri so its good"i pray that this whole thing turns out to be an actual subversion and its the prophecy forcing the situation to happen and neither susie nor noelle actually feel this way so quickly
>>741934927toby is creating the first mainstream yuri ntr gamevery ambitious
>>741934660Best response
>chapter so shit that even i'm making up my own copeand yet even my retard ass could have done a better job
>>741935118How are the japs taking it?
>>741927635Toby has done a great job of making not feel so bad about doing the "evil" routes in both Undertale and Deltarune thanks to these last couple of chapters. I get to kill the skeleton and prevent faggotry? How can I say no?
>>741934952scott's only sin was getting into a lore war with mattpattthe games themselves were fine enough for being made by a single dude
>chapter 5 was so much of a nothing burger than literally every schizo theory remained unchangedamazing
>>741935149The Japanese are goyim they probably love it uncritically.
>>741935061>she want to feel importantSusie is about to completely lose it, bitch lives in the fucking closet now. She's even preparing a home for Noelle there and will probably try to make her stay there forever. The prophecy broke her and she fully accepted the escapism. Like, she didn't even react to learning about the 4th wall stuff where she's told she can see the UI if she squints her eyes, she was just like "damn that's cool"
Too many fuckable girls called Aqua in media will confuse the Rule 34
>>741935149They have ascended canon a long time ago
>>741935034Anon literally every character in the game is cheering on how cute and valid it is except Kris the stinky chud manIt's over
>>741934956its me again. I wanted to see what that black and white background in mancountry was called. I have no idea how to work a deltarune mod program. the name of file of the grey image.
>>741935141The prophecy brainwashed Susie. Suselle is intentionally forced. Trust the plan.
>>741934770anon, it can be both.aqua is literally an inversion of the patience soul, yes.but she is ALSO meant to be a young kris.she has a bow that looks like a red heart shaped object and equipping her weapon on noelle has her call it nostalgic when the only one that carries a knife is kris.and from what we know of young kris, kris was extremely non-serious and didnt consider the consequences of actions when doing them (like constantly pulling shitty pranks on noelle), and aqua is also extremely non serious.
>>741934956Catbox checked
>>741934850>This chapter had a very negative reception by even Suselle shippers on how it was handled to the point there's an all-time low art of it.Doesn't matter at all. Chapter 6 will open on Susie monologuing how well they hit it off during their offscreen segments in ch2 to exonorate his gay pairing and will keep trudging on. People will make up wild fanfiction how based dog got usurped by his tranny coworkers but the truth is that he did the same thing in Undertale with Undyne and Alphys.It's just the way he writes "romance".It's just what he's into.There's no deeper meaning than that.
>>741935149no idea, i haven't heard anything from them this time around
>>741934892Whether forced by prophecy or whatever else, it's written poorly IF it's meant to be taken well and doesn't eventually crash and burn.Comparing Susie and Noelle's few interactions, dynamic and lack of history, with the dynamic between Noelle and Kris and the way she thinks of their childhood and add her behavior in the weird route on top of that, the former becomes even more of a joke.
>>741934892This is what makes the internet so tough nowadays because any dumbass with 70iq that shits in the street can get on it. They even have the second hero holding a sword which Noelle equips and not Susie. Gerson's whole thing is that Susie isn't supposed to be there right now. Alphys is the one who told Kris and Susie to grab the chalk too. She knows something.But idk how people are STILL not understanding this.
>>741934850The ironic part is that weird route got such kino art in comparison even though the supposed highlight of Suselle shares the same setup Insane
>>741935207how did you miss the whole point of the chapter and the flowers. they're literally there to push the characters further into the escapism cope, that's what they've been doing with asgore the whole time. asgore was just playing along and eventually rejects it, susie bought into it completely without any resistance
HmmmHmmmmmmmmmmm
>>741935098Berdly is too cocky, that's it, besides that he is actually good, even a better person than all the fungang including nolleI really wanted to do the meme, but we got 0 dating power, the festival kinda sucked ass
>>741935196>Aqua_(Deltarune)There, problem solved
>>741935176femkris unironically feels more real than it did before thanks to everything with aqua and a comment from noellethe knight question is unfortunately right where we were before, with rudy fags using the knight being hurt after slamming into a wall as evidence and carol/ dess/ noelle knighters saying that there's no chance in hell rudy would be let out of the hospital after falling off of a ladder while terminally ill
>>741935279artists are mentally ill schizos, of course they like the weird route more
im waiting for toby to release the ending where all the shadow bosses become good guys and you live with ralsei etc forever also with never ending post game content. if i dont get this happy ending and especially if the goat is sacrificed i will probably settle for the ending where everybody dies i guess. why not? everything is shit otherwise right?
>>741935243It does matter since in part it comes from gratification through fanworks, namely fanartHe had shown that side over Undertale and that stock market losing its value will affect him
>>741935370susie made this post
>>741935348R34 taggers are retarded unfortunately
>>741933102It reminds me of the chapter 3 convos with ralsei trying to dissuade susie into believing the dark world is fake and "make real friends"Here is a new take that just came to me: the prophecy can be broken, but doing so is what triggers the time loop. If the prophecy fails, it just resets and tries again, and Susie always fails to complete it since she doesn't want her fantasy to end.That's why Ralsei is trying to change the prophecy instead of actually stopping it, because he knows it just can't be stopped.The weird route is about just breaking out of the confines of the prophecy altogether and no longer being controlled by it.
>>741935225iirc aqua also makes a comment to kris if you wear the red ribbon and black shard in her fight saying kris looks just like her, but is confused why kris isn't using the knife to fight when he has onewhich confirms that the knife stays a knife in the dark world
how come Kris never attempts to communicate to the SOULdoes Kris just hate us that badly
>>741935353rudy sitting besides the ladder in the weird route after the festival is over should be enough to raise some questions
>>741935348I cannot believe Toby obviously cut the mantises as an encounter.This shit was so rushed man.
>>741935293i'm dumb what does this mean
>>741933589Issue with RudyKnight is why would he endanger Noelle by shoving her into the Dark World, Carol would absolutely be against it
>>741935432And the pot archer
>>741935419He doesn't want to otherwise he'd write shit up like Green and show it to usIt would probably be a middle finger but still.
>>741935149Despite the endless pandering I don't think Deltarune's been nearly as popular as Undertale was in Nipland
>>741935432Nah the chapter is already long as fuckBe grateful toby has a producer otherwise this would never be finished
>>741935432this chapter had like 3 regular enemies
>>741935365Unlike the dogshit mentally-ill yurifags, right?
>>741935392I would take upon myself the task of fixing every stupid character tag I see on it but first I'd have to get enough "points" to edit posts and I'm not going to reply under a pic with all the men roleplaying as anime girls
>>741935287Flowery wants them to just fuck off the entire time and constantly mocks Ralsei for being a slave to how the story is supposed to be, what the hell are you talking about?
>>741935451Touhou reference.
>>741935370susie how are you on here, youre homeless and the internet is out
>>741935419He did, if you try to read Asriel's letters he makes a very cheeky remark. He just hates (you) no matter what. His relationship to (you) is strictly professional.
>>741935225In this case it isn't both. It's just crayon grasping for dumbasses. Aqua has a red ribbon and a knife because that's the associated weapon and armor from undertale for the aqua soul. A faded red ribbon and a toy knife. Green is a frying pan, yellow a gun, blue is ballet shoes. It cannot be spelled out more clearly. This is why you are all retarded Jeets!
>>741935471could've been if this shit took less than a decade to make in an episodic format
>>741935490because they were trying to destroy the escapist dream world
>>741934923So I wasn't the only one to notice.I can only guess Toby intended it to be a goofy comedic scene that threw a bone at Toriel x Sans shippers, but he didn't notice how shitty it actually made both of them look. So he desperately tried to make Toriel look good again at the start of Chapter 5.It's really funny how much Toby wants Toriel to be seen as a good mom, despite the fact that she's letting her kid bring a knife to school.And her Undertale version is even worse, since 8 out of the 9 children she had under her care died, and the 2 kids she actually raised grew up to be complete psychopaths.
>>741935490He was trying to convince Ralsei that the prophecy could be broken so that they could all just chill
>>741935254another thing to keep in mind is that any push by you in either direction (krusie, kriselle) has them start falling for kris until something forces them to snap back, with this in full force at the lake and the two of them becoming obsessed with heartbeats.suselle is so painfully obvious as an anomaly, but not everyone is ready to accept that its because it kills their favorite ship.
>>741935389and where the fuck is susies hug animation? i want to cuddle the dinosaur
>>741935496i'll admit i was curious about the drawer this time, but backed offkris had a fucked up night already, no point ruining the very start of his day when toriel was waiting right downstairs to do it for me
>>741935212It's just a sprite called "spr_man_grass".
>>741935454Because Rudy and Carol are in suchx good terms, am I right?
>>741935507>Aqua has a red ribbonthats SHAPED LIKE A FUCKING HEART YOU DUMBASS.
>STILL wanting girlkris to become realNIGGER ITS GOING A TRANNY ALLEGORY. Toby's already outed himself as completely poised with the suselle cuckshit, transei, and gender stuff with the flowers. i do not want more mutilated femoids in this godforsaken game especially when the next to chapters are going to be stupidly bloated. i don't even care about evidence anymore i'm just against it on principal now
>>741935557Pretty sure Asriel became evil for different reasons from Toriel
>>741935475that's not true at all>flower guys>bird heads>scarecrows>ninja beetles>floating leaf guys>pot golemsthose are all respawning enemies, plus there's some respawning "bullet pattern" enemies you fight a bunch of times like the books and the aqua clones
>>741935557>but he didn't notice how shitty it actually made both of them look.I don't believe that for a second. He WROTE Susie being shocked and leaving dejected.
>>741935557To be fair to UT!Toriel, 8 out of 9 children in her care got there because they were either retarded or suicidal (retarded)
>>741935454Anon, Holidays are full of surprises. But it can easily be justified with him knowing that Noelle is strong(er then she seem), plus Queen doesn't actually want to hurt Noelle and is in fact pretty protective. Generally speaking Chapter 2 SHOULD been a safe one for Noelle.
>>741935507>they use the same weapon>they look the same>asgore uses that color in flashbacks>they have the same personality>"those are ALL coincidences you jeet"
>>741931795idgi
>>741935557kris and susie's reaction and later kris in bed clearly show that it's meant to not be seen as a good thingthe damage control is really weird coming off of that, again i must assume the new writers did that because they're sans and torielfagsat least you can stick it to toriel and give the honey toast to asgore or 'lose' it when entering the school
>>741935630Cactus = Noelle parallelWatercooler = Susie parallel
>>741932829They're calling it the true canon ending
>>741935279>boring forced yurislop that sucks so much people are praying that its the prophecy forcing them together no matter how stupid it is vs yandere mindbroken doe forcing you to PROCEED and break the gameits no fucking wonder people would rather take the interesting route
>>741935564
>>741934923what? what the fuck did you want the scene to be? toriel beating kris with a empty wine bottle asking for more? shes his mom, and she still barely even apologized despite her knowing kris was upset. how the fuck is that damage control
>>741935703>Noelhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
>>741935454More accurate would be to ask "what does he gain from this"Nothing at all, but Ralsei talked to Kris alone in chapter 1. Ralsei and Kris know the prophecy, no doubt Rudy does too, perhaps they were trying to accelerate the time Noelle joined to see if it made any difference? Rudy also has that weird dialogue about Dragon Blazers and "why don't you use fire Noelle" perhaps he was hoping for something to happen out of it?Chapter 6 is enclosed by ice after all, it's her house.
>>741935496My speculation is that we'll eventually get control of the Vessel we made and actually be able to confront Kris who will go on a AM tier rant about how much he fucking hates our shit.
>>741935478Anon, the yurifags are the ones drawing Weird Route Kriselle.
>>741935564>>741935254>>741935703>He thinks the childhood friend will win
>>741935557>>741934923>wakes up as a hung over sloppy mess drooling on the chair after partying all night>asks her adopted kid to go make breakfast for her while she stews in the hangover>makes vague apologies for half remembered fuckups she made last night>doesn't bother to ever get up and actually do anythingI don't see how this is in any way damage control. This is just an accurate depiction of how fuck up drunkard parents act the next day
>>741935703compare this writing to the suselle shit seen in the chapterno wonder people are coping the prophecy is some malevolent force
>>741935630noelle's cactus is named 'krismas' if you ignore berdly's renamethere is an extremely high probability that the dreemurr cactus' name is 'noelle'and said cactus loves kris, but is super shy about it
>>741935757What?>we could hardly spell each others' names correctly
>>741935490Worse, he was willing to die alongside the other flowers just to provide Asgore with ONE DAY of happiness.
>>741935703No wonder she's so happy in Weird Route.
>>741935757Anon, Noel and Noelle can sound exactly the same.
>>741935776retarded /v/erming are genuinely too autistic to see this
>>741935703god dudewhat the actual fuck noelleyou can just be doing that shit while leaving kris behind, it's too cruel to the both of you
I can't wait to destroy the flower world in Chapter 7 (Side B)
Finished the normal route.Is the Weird Route worth going through?
>>741935870Yes.
>>741935870YES. Now go do it before you get spoiled.
My poor neglected princess Kristine...
>>741935870it's more worth it than the normal route
>>741935821Nope
>>741935870it's good, and takes like 20 minutes
>>741935776The damage control is in Toby desperately shifting the blame onto Kris>No, Player! Toriel didn't lock out her kid in the rain and not give a shit about him not coming back when it gets dark>Kris had access to a second key all the time!>He was fully in control of the situation and it's actually HIM manipulating YOU to make you hate her
>>741935870anon you need to go do that shit right now.
>>741935703God fucking dammit Toby.
>>741935870Go do it before you get spoiled on it.
>>741935931>Toby desperately shifting the blame onto Krisno, it's toriel doing that
>people only care about the 20 minute weird route>seen people outside her unironically use the "susie is brainwashed by FRIEND" cope>barely any new art of suselle is being madefucking hell toby fumbled this one
I find the thought of housecats becoming intelligent in the dark world problematic
>>741935931>Toby desperately shifting the blame onto Krisanon you are unironically getting manipulated by the drunk manipulated mom, like you cannot be this retarded.
The bit of Krielle we got in this chapter was leagues better than all the Suselle forced pandering put together.And Krusie bros got barely anything this time around.
>>741934049i never touched the drink machine beyond the first time i went to look at it
>>741935757>6 year olds can't spellis it really that strange?
>>741934838Since the elevator leading up to King in Chapter 1 there is a constant current within the community of many people wanting Deltarune to eventually escalate into a grand dark fantasy. The ratio of whimsy to dramatic shifting in the latter's favor. Something which Chapter 4 finally gave people and gave it to them in a way which surpassed expectations.
>>741935703>can write noelle normally>can write susie normally>has the be the more selfish narcistic cunts imageable when togetherTHE FUCK
>>741936009Krusiebros found dead in a ditch
>>741934019Of course, depends on your standards.https://files.catbox.moe/dqu3m0.png
>>741936007drunkard manipulative mom*
>>741935931This shit does feel like it was written as retcon, much like Susie suddenly saying the reasoning for the bullying was over Noelle jealousy when she previously admitted it was jealousy of his home life and Toriel
You know, I just noticed Flowery isn't the only one breaking the fucking rules.Kris does this in the Weird Route already, when he fights Spamton he pulls up two unique moves out of his ass, one interferes with Spamton's Pipis to boot. The second one is The Knight, if Susie and Ralsei are both down, Kris actually gets stronger as if he was not holding back. Kris is pretty damn dangerous.
>>741935003alphydyne never had NTR undertones much less come at the expense of more interesting ships.
>>741935703is this unique to the weird route?i want to know if i should read this image or just wait until i get there myself
>>741935979No. A second key materializing conveniently after everyone accuses the saintly goat of being an abusive piece of trash to excuse her behavior is explicitly dog talking directly to you to stop attacking Toriel.This is new information that didn't exist prior to chapter 5 in direct response to the most common complaint. A writer going "NUH UH" when he elicits a reaction he didn't intend for.
>>741936038With that talk about the sea/what's deep below in the very first chapter you can hardly blame people.
>>741935790Makes sense when you consider how Kris reacts to those kids photos when Noelle pops up. Can't even bring himself to recall the name
>>741936009>And Krusie bros got barely anything this time around.They got 1 (one) scene in the aborted weird route and that's it.
>>741936009>>741936047krusiebros at least got explicit confirmation that yes, kris is romantically interested in susiefor whatever that's worth
>>741936082>toriel is toby>everything toriel is written to be is exactly what toby thinks and feels and would say himself personallythis is your thought process right now, you cannot perceive characters in a story, you view them as extended opinions of the author
If you enter a dark world that got opened in your house and your pet dog in the dark world is intelligentdont do itjust dontokay?
>Kris is a girl>Susie is lesbian>First thing Susie does on-screen is abuse KrisHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>>741936102Well, there was Papyrus x Undyne but it gets swept under the rug so fast that people barely has the time to process it
>>741936148Should you be worried about the dogOr the cat
>>741935141>noelleripshereyeballout.png
>When you fuck seth but then the fountain seals and your dick is on a flower pot and everyone sees it
>>741936128Why are humans obsessed with purple dragons?
>>741936113Nope, full normal route and no bit of weird route sprinkled in where her and Susie are supposed to be a thing.In the ballot you can write the King as Kris, then Noelle as Queen, then choose to show it to Noelle. Afterwards that's what she says.
>>741936092the new moves thing is interesting kris can pull x slash and fried pipis out of nowhere, and in ch5 susie suddenly learns a magic move based from jevilwhere did those come from? ralsei taught susie healing magic, but where did scythmare or whatever it's called come from?
>THEY'LL HEAR THE RING OF HEAVEN'S CALL.What if it was a literal ring like the Thornring though?
>>741935595Because it's the faded ribbon dumbass. It's not heart shaped in different angles. Kris ain't singled out to be the random aqua flower that already is connected to the blue soul like every other flower. Grasping hard for your crayons. >>741935629>They use the same weaponIt's the toy knife + aqua soul uses knife attacks in undertale. Hard to understand I know. Kris can equip non ribbon armor btw. And Kris equips swords, so yes you are a dumbass brown street shitter. Kris has a knife to make dark fountains she doesn't use it for attacks. Most obvious straight up throwback to undertale and somehow you people are all fucked up because a color matched. Im done re-iterating it. Can't argue with stupid. I've learned my lesson. First it was nooooo they don't reference the souls, then it was noooo actually it's two things at once and then it was noooo actually the dagger that Kris doesn't use. Just keep coping in your mud hut.
>>741935995>Every alternate scene is better than the main onesI can't tell if tobby is doing this consciously or not
>>741936102>much less come at the expense of more interesting ships.Who even would you pair Undyne with? Asgore, her canonical father figure? Fucking Papyrus?Meanwhile, somehow Alphys has Sans, Asgore and MTT and they are all appealing ships to a certain point.
>>741936138You know how little weight that comes across when it had been shown Toby is not beyond twisting things around in the story so people see his own vision?Take the Mike debacle, for instance
>>741936216If this was an edgier game, she would do that upon realising her world is fake
>>741936235i think it's more of a dreemurr thing
>>741936163Turns out he can actually write Yuri.
>>741936047>Just have to watch be completely fucking miserable>Given options constantly showing Kris cares a SHITLOAD>Hope the entire game he says fucking anything>Get to the end, Susie says they need to talk about something important>Wait shit he might actually do something now>Kris, us can't be us anymore>Just stares at the door as she leavesbreh...
>>741936237can I still do that in weird route? I beat the game normally but I'm really trying to not open images and wait until i play through it again myself
>>741936050Sweaty desk-breaking hand-holding breeding sex.
>>741936114anon this is toriel saying this, this is not toby the person, this is toriel the in universe character expecting their child to walk home by themselves at night with their friend and trying to excuse it by saying they couldve gotten themselves out when she just went home and got drunk instead, if you think that's a shitty thing to do, thats because it is, thats the point. the perpetrator is victim blaming, thats what the scene is.
>even the Kralsei hot springs scene got more fanart than Suselle
>>741935845its because the prophecy is forcing everyone down set paths.they literally hear the ring of heaven at the lake (the church bell) and then become obsessed with heart beats (which we also hear during the final prophecy room)its not natural, its not what noelle wants. and then when you give her a taste of that freedom sauce using your determination she refuses to let go of kris until the prophecy can take (you)r refusal to proceed and give her that determination boost to force everyone back on their rails. at which point she has a mental freakout while the prophecy is forcing ideas in her head.the weird route is 100% continuing in CH6 when we get noelle in the dark world again. just not the lake branch.
>>741936113nah its normal route, weird route completely skips the festival>>741936102Alphadyne is also like 5 minutes of the story at most and most of the scenes are played for haha funniesthe lake scene alone is probably longer than that and currently comes across as completely serious >>741936264copium is weird route ending is the actual thing he dreamt up and normal route is just the "excuse" to drive you towards it
>>741936114>explicitly dog talking directly to you to stop attacking Toriel.And to think this is the exact same dog that once said he likes flawed characters...
>>741936201Cat in terms of threat levelDog in terms of weird
>>741936246Better question, Scythmare works like a pacify, why does Susie get Ralsei's moves all of a sudden? Are we reclassing her? Ralsei also revealed to just know fire magic like the prophecy portrait implied, will Susie and Ralsei maybe change roles down the line with each other if you practice Susie's techniques?
>>741936256>Toby Fox always thinks about everything and never does random stuff EXCEPT this time, this time Kris being the same color as Aqua and all those other things were all random!I'm done replying to you dumb retarded nigger
>>741936317Sadly no. I'll just say there's a lot you can't do in ch 5 weird route and it sucks. Just play it, and remember to proceed even when it doesn't look like you can.At least it does have a great scene.
>>741936317Anon, you really should close the thread and go back to playing.
>>741927635Aaaaannd dropped
>>741936102Are we certain about that?
of all the things toby had to enable, why was it the goddamn femkrisfag
>>741934583Just go to Castle Town and have have your own festival there with the gay goat
>>741935931Anon, the chapter ends on Kris very easily going through the bedroom window despite being effectively a cripple
>>741936246Huh, I assumed Scythemare was due to me having Devilsknife equipped to her.
>>741936102Alphys did thirst for Asgore AND Toriel.
>>741936412it isnt just aqua's color but also like the knife use and similar hair styleaqua at the very least mimics kris, but it seems dumb to assume anything gender related past thatI am tripped up on how their powers are the exact same as the human souls in omega flowey's fight, to the point I schizo'd on if the flower pots were fertilized with the ashes of humans or some shit and was surprised to learn they're just memory sponging flowers that get dynamic in darkness.
>>741936454Not even Alphys is degenerate enough to be interested in a 12yo in that way.
>>741936478They're too busy throwing Noelle and Susie a wedding, sorry
>>741936467*femkrisfagSand it should've been obvious we would get more considering the plethora of stuff we graciously received in ch3 & 4
>>741936454Oh yeah, you reminded me as one of the routes had Metatton both happy and sad about Alphys being so much into Undyne and yet wishing her well or something
>>741936372>weird route ending is the actual thing he dreamt up and normal route is just the "excuse" to drive you towards itThat’s bullshit but I believe it.
>>741936454Why did you even dig that far, you go on/get cucked out of direct dates with both Alphys and Undyne
>>741931869They were handling it pretty well before and apparently talked for hours without his intervention in this scene. I understand wanting some help to break the ice but at some point it starts to feel like they want him to watch or something.
>kris is a closeted girl>ralsei is a closeted tranny>susie and noelle are dykes>they're all mentally unstable spergs who abuse and betray each other on a moments notice and collectively hate the one straight man they interact withBRAVO TOBY FOXWORTH
>>741936429nigger it's 5 in the morning and I just finished weird route chapter 2 yesterday and the normal route before that after staying up all night and I've already missed like 50 threadsI don't want to replay the dogshit ass zelda sections and have to get S ranks I want to read about the fucking game before discussion dies in 1 week like everything else on this god awful board filled with bait
>>741936524Of course Aqua being a girl wouldn't 100% confirm Kris is one but since Kris is """nonbinary""" (something that doesn't exist) it's the best confirmation we have to anything close to a biological sex confirmation
>>741936372>copium is weird route ending is the actual thing he dreamt up and normal route is just the "excuse" to drive you towards iti think it's going to be a combination of both, so the aborted weird route is the real ending
>>741936335If Toby won't do it i'll do it myself.https://files.catbox.moe/divgwk.png
>>741936636ralsei is not going to troon outhe's made too much money off of the fluffy boy at this point, and people will actually go to his house and kill him if he ruins ralsei
>>741935605I think he more meant how sparse they are in terms of where they're encountered. Like for example I genuinely do not remember if Leafling is fought anywhere other than one spot in the cliffs and Floradinn/Sheary basically become irrelevant after the Garden section of the chapter. Netskie and Shi were pretty prevalent throughout though
>>741936606Sometimes I forget that the dates were an actual selling point for Undertale. Literally in the marketing for it
>>741936645saw someone mention an interesting idea that Kris being a girl but going "actually im a they/them" removes them from being eligible as The Girl in the prophecy
>>741936343God, you are so unimaginably stupid.You are so enamoured with this false idea of Toby who never errs on anything that you cannot even imagine the idea of a writer replying directly to his reader in the story he writes.I guess we've found the target audience for this chapter, the perfect faggot slave that will always claim its raining when being spat on.Bet you thought Ralsei being turned black, parading how much everyone hates him being that way and then everyone being happy when he turns into asriel again was also witty, in character moment and not Toby raging at the audience.
>>741934995>i've seen people say that toby fox flat out does not know how to write women in the ch5 reception lolHe writes Susie and Kris wellNoelle and Kris also have a compelling relationship For some reason Susie and Noelle are just not that great in scenes together.
>Flowery calls Ralsei a "princess">Ralsei's pronouns are changed to "their"Is this grooming allegory? Is groomer Dess real?
>>741936681PANTIEDANDSISSIFIED
>ch5 >STILL doing FRIEND teasesthis fuckers going to turn out to be a complete joke character isn't he?
At least I'm happy Toby left more crumbs on Dessriel to make the shotards shut up for a while
>>741936734ok dude, keep unironically getting manipulated by the fat goat mom
>>741936391susie is being set up to have a complete toolkit to be an "unkillable" final boss that'll block us from sealing the castletown fountain when its time to do so.>strongest self heal>strongest weapon>"strongest" damage spell (assuming you dont do snowgrave)>highest stats>barely meta aware, knows that she can just ignore the rules if she wants.>can now outright force spare if the battle goes on too long and the protags get tired.she has everything she needs to win in a hypothetical kris vs susie fight on the normal route.you need something stronger to "win" the fight and seal castle town to stop the roaring.
>>741936681people also despise suselle and love krusie but that sure as shit didn't stop toby
>>741936785FRIEND is hidden inside of YellowToby warned us years ago
>>741936785friend isnt a fucking character, are you retarded?pay attention to the actual story and themes instead of being a theorybrained retard
>>741936785I missed it, what was the tease this time around?
>>741936801Keep comically missing the point, every thread needs its jester.
>>741936756someone post the video of the blue faggot making seth troon out
>>741936681>>741936760honestly toby missed the boat on this after jax the edgy chud self-insert character and tumblr sexyman was revealed to actually be a tranny and killed himself in the finale. Brutal and unexpected by most peopletrooning out ralsei so he can change his pronouns and put on a dress feels lame
>>741936785the two final copes, the two final hopes.>FRIEND relates to freedom in some way, making the pure crystal will make him more active>friend enters the front and center as a 'mandatory' thing in the true game's boss, this would put him inCH7B>>741936860in the platformer bit that connects the cliffs and garden, go up as high as you can and then jump off to the right. act immediately and move up.
>>741936869youre point is to treat fictional characters as real people, you are delusional
>>741936905Goddammit I thought it was suspicious that you could jump to the other screen from so high up but I never tried it quite that high.
>>741936860There was a thing in the platforming section where you jump up from below to the cliffs where if you jump to the right at the top there is a hidden FRIEND ACT that damages you to 1HP.I think that's it.
>>741936643if youre a shitter you can farm points and buy S-rank from a guy at the entrance to the green room for 1500
>>741936785Maybe he had something planned for it at the beginning of the game but the fanbase theorised too much so he's going to turn it into a joke.
You didn't end up fighting the baby version, did you?
>>741936785He will be a joke boss like Mike.
So give it to me straight, is Pink a trans allegory or not?
>>741937032He's not hard enough to lose to and get him to be easier in the first place
>>741937032i dont understand how flowery is difficult enough for this to be something that was needed.the fight's just cinematic slop and the orange soul is piss easy to get used to.
>>741937032Flowery didn't need to be nerfed at all, I was expecting Pink to be nerfed first.
>>741937084as much of one as regular mew mew iswhich is to say not at all unless youre brain broken enough to think a genderless ghost possessing an anime figure is something you want to represent youshe literally exists in this game to tell kris he can work together with the soul instead of fighting
>>741937032I know Toby's ways. I made sure to finish the chapter before the nerfs dropped.
>>741929458this is such a fucking retcon
>>741936785>STILLWhy is that surprisingWhy would the demon from the obvious endgame plotline that hasn't even been properly revealed yet not get teased
>>741937084If you consider "they/them" turning into "he" or "she" then yes.
>>741937032i genuinely died more to mew's stupid bombs than to flowery
Toby now has the exact same relationship with his fans Andrew Hussie did. Anything people get too excited for, read too much into, or expect too much from will be subverted and made fun of. Anything people complain about or are disappointed in will be doubled down on.
>>741937084Entity literally born with no gender enters female body, it's literally made so that trans nutjobs can see the characters as trans while normal people can ignore it
>>741937171Somehow I doubt that Toby is going to make a smiley face that 99% of players won’t see a significant antagonist.
>>741936994can you do that immediately after the first board?
>>741937245>Anything people get too excited for, read too much into, or expect too much from will be subverted and made fun of????Name a single time this happenedMike was not him making fun of you, for god sake he made a whole miniboss with its unique gimmick just for it.
>>741936674Good stuff.This is why Anons should make games.
>>741936681>>741936820toby doesn't look to his general fandom to see how something would be received he confides in his team of tranny's who are fully on board to make everyone gay/trans. i don't know why you people haven't figured that out yet. deltarune is not make for you its not even made for the average faggot outside of here its made for retaeds who think deltatravelers is a work of art
>>741937171i think that everyone was expecting friend, the pink and yellow (dull gold) cat character to pop up in the FIELDS OF PINK AND GOLD chapter, where the teaser website page for the chapter when inverted is PINK AND GOLD and with a secret boss that requires you to collect PINK coins after seam teased a [CAT/PUPPET] schizo boss.
So, Kris is actually dead, right? The Red soul is the only thing keeping her alive and without It she starts rotting
>>741937442Haha you expected something good related to eight years of foreshadowing and vagueposting but I made something bad instead. Isn't that funny?
>>741937442>He didn't realise friend is SEAM who's waiting for you to collect all 5 crystalsNot Toby's fault you're a speedreader
>>741931869Between this and Susie purposefully ruining his chances with Mew Mew, I just... don't know what to make of it.I guess Susie has just decided to be a bitch for no good reason?
>>741937305yes, iirc here's how it works - he only appears if you get ranks a,b or c on the first board.after second board he will only appear if you bought s-rank previously or got it naturally
>>741937536ugly bitches hate when men love cute anime girls
>>741935906>>741935908>>741935915>>741935920>>741935936>>741935976Finished it. Holy fuck? Murder-suicide? Toby WTF? The Weird Route continues in chapter 7. Are you guys okay with this?
>>741937594"Full" Weird continues there.But if you back out, there’s no "abort" sound.
>>741937594You can abort it but it won't play the abort jingleThe weird route is still continuing in chapter 6
>>741937594how's your heartbeat anon? mine was fucking GOING at the end of that.
>>741937594you can also not PROCEED, they just drown then presumably the timeline corrects itself back to the normal route. the weird route abort jingle doesn't play. check it out on youtube, the suselle "date" scene is different we wont know which one is the actual weird route continuation until chapter 6, or 7 i guess
>>741937594It makes 2 new global save files once you complete it also by the way.
>>741934995I think he writes them great when he isn't trying too hard.Toriel and Sans drunk Scene? Great but the Key and Call scene shows it as unintentional..Carol being a stern Workmom? Great.Noelle when the Susie oneitis takes a backseat? Great.Susie before she gets Noelle oneitis? Great....and so on.It's not the characters. It is the Suselle being reductive to the characters involved instead of additive because it tries TOO hard, right down to the +400 Tea.
>>741937594Right now people are still more hyped over how good it is and not dwelling on how long it's gonna take to get a follow-up for it
>>741937713futa susies gallons....
>>741937594No it's bullshit but at least what's there is good.
>>741937646I expected something or someone to save them at the last second, but nobody came. I flatlined when it was over.
Fucked up people are more interesting.That’s really the root of it all.
>>741935410all she said for me was that kris has a knife but not that xhe isn't using it
>Noelle goes completely schizo after tasting freedom onceI didn't know freedom sauce was that addicting
>>741937820That does happen but if you stop proceeding, reverting to the normal route while Noelle ends up despairing, disappointed and having a monologue about how nothing changes. As you can see some think that will end up as a route of its own but we'll have to wait and see.no one comes to save them if you do, cause they don't need any saving there and they either cross the lake or reach the lake dark world
>>741937468its more that the soul is his only source of DT.for whatever reason his original soul is gone, so he needs us to replenish his body's reserves.the reason why he needs us in dark worlds is because closing a fountain takes too much determination, it'd just kill him right there if he'd even have enough to do so at that point.this is also why monsters cant seal fountains, they simply do not have enough determination.
>>741935061>Susie forgot to actually defy the prophecy as she promised to Ralsei and Kris.I think this is a big hint towards her being affected in some magical way. Ch4 ends with Susie loudly proclaiming that she's not going to let the prophecy become real. Not even 24 hours later, she's following it to the fucking letter by trying to fall in love as fast and hard as she can.
>>741937971Imagine for a second if you learned that your entire life exists inside of a videogame, and every action you have done and will ever do is actually laid out before you and programmed on a specific pathWould you want to do everything you can to break free?
>>741937992dont forget that she goes from "me? ribbons? get the hell outta here!" to wanting to wear them in the flower world's third room.
>>741937971Spamton also got a taste, and we all know what happened there.Sometimes it’s better to not know what you’re missing.
>>741934774scott's a schizo and everyone knows he as no idea what he's doing he's still piloting the ship. toby got cockblocked by 5 troons
>>741937915still says it without black shard
>>741927734>he
What if friend is actually a good guy, why would he be called friend otherwise
>>741938051>scott's a schizoI wouldn't have It any other way honestly
>>741938123he may be a friend, but that doesnt make him YOURS
>>741938120you're not doing that, asshole
>>741938143why even respond to the faggot
>>741932176does he have anything to do with the tree eggs then
>>741936785friend is just what cats who wander into the dark world look like and behave likeA cat's perception of the world is weird.
>>741934031Then why didn't she just say "That's too much like Berdly" then?
>>741936785friend got to get squeezed out of ralsei's bussy....dang
>>741938228not enough space or just toby being king vagueposter again
>>741937971>Aborted Ch 5 weird route blueballs Noelle so hard it makes a shadow crystal and she becomes the next schizo bossC'mon Toby make it happen
>>741938319>spamelle in the bunker mainframe
>>741938228Did you start playing this game at this chapter?It's Toby's writing style, Japanese influenced.
>>741934337Seeing Toriel like that made Susie give up on reality and escape to the fantasy.
>>741938516>true ending involves forcing sans over to undertale so that the toriel and sans scene never happens
The cliffhanger of Chapter 4 feels such like a whiplash considering how full of resolve to CHANGE the prophecy Susie wasWhat the fuck even happened
>>741938628acute darkness poisoning is nothing to fuck with
>>741936785>pic somehow susie Mpreging ralsei would be less humiliating for kris that what we did get
>>741938010I subscribe to the idea that "free will" is an illusion created by our inability to predict our own actions.If I found out that my fate was algorithmically or randomly generated by some computational mainframe acting on the universe or simulating it altogether, I'd just shrug because it doesn't really change anything.If I found out that some intelligent being had deliberately shaped my life in specific, I'd question their sanity.Then again I'm a mostly sane, rational and distanced individual. Noelle is not.
The so-called "Weird" route is the only logical and moral choice to make in a world governed by reactionary forces intent on keeping its inhabitants enslaved for all eternity. Yes, the process may look ugly, but revolution is not a dinner party. We must proceed unwaveringly toward Freedom.
FINE I'll play your dumb homo game.UT made me cry like a bitch
>>741938628If there's another whiplash in chapter 6 it all but confirms that Toby, after finishing all the Japanese stuff, just let his western writers go wild for this one.
>>741936905what the fuck never knew about friend shit outside of sword route
>>741938628The end of 4 was Susie coping and denying that anything will happenThe throughline of 5 is Susie coping and coming to realize they actually need to start doing shit rather than expecting things to keep working out because they're the heroes
>>741938628she was copingfighting the titan, final prophecy, and seeing her mom figure toriel being a whore was too much for her to handle. she had a mental breakdown, embraced coping and escapism, started living in the closet
>the writing is bad!!!! toby would never write this!!!!Do ANY of you even remember half of chapter 2 being dedicated to the fucking Sweet Cap'n Cakes gang?
>>741938673Actual question but if someone cums inside of an item that will turn into a female darkner inside the DW what will happen?
>>741938712>
>>741938628Toby cannot fucking write when it comes to his yuri slop
>>741938736have fun sister
>>741938736Don't read these threads
>>741938712Sounding a lot like Ted Kaczynski here, perhaps best known for his work in mathematics.
>>741938773and thats not all,>CH2 - before the teacups, go back and forth fast enough>CH4 - room branching off of the light/dark switch room, once you hit the bell button run right as fast as you can.>mike games - hidden in battat. get a good enough scoreand then various places in the spamton web exploration arg reference him
>>741938790>halfThe fuck are you talking about. You fight them once and then they turn into a shop. That's it.
>>741938736enjoy the game on your own terms and don't let the majority-brownoid population of /v/ tell you what to think
>>741938790If anything if just proves Toby might not be in control since they weren't even written by him
Where the FUCK is Muffet
>>741938883no, that shit was interminable. you encounter them like 5 times>>741938903>since they weren't even written by himnigger yes they were, what the fuck? how bad has the schizophrenia here gotten?
>>741938774>The throughline of 5 is Susie coping and coming to realize they actually need to start doing shit rather than expecting things to keep working out because they're the heroes...and she does that by precisely acting out the role the prophecy wants her to to the letter? If it was as you say, Susie would have spent the whole chapter being scared shitless of Noelle and wanting to stay away from her because the prophecy points towards her.
>Toby didn't write Chapter 5>Toby didn't write Chapter 3 and 4>Toby didn't write Chapter 2YOU ARE HERE>Toby didn't write Chapter 1>Toby didn't write Undertale>Toby doesn't exist>UTDR is just an Andrew Hussie side project
>>741938885Anon, if xhe's playing DR then they're probably brown too.
>>741938949mew mew mentioned her
>>741938712The weird route is definitionally the only way the prophecy can resume since skipping Chapter 5 and 6 traps Asgore in the Dark World with no means of sealing it.
>>741938985Nah, she'd winYou didn't play chapter 4, she explicitly denies that shit will happen
>>741938949Muffet's muffin Muffet's muffin!
>>741939021>since skipping Chapter 5 and 6 traps Asgore in the Dark World with no means of sealing ithow? kris is the one who opens the dark world in the first place. he doesn't do that in the weird route.does anyone here fucking play this game?
>>741938949Here's your other Muffet reference bro
>>741938951Even with that it doesn't add up even close to half, and that's without even considering you can straight up ignore them. No extra cutscenes and shit were dedicated to them. You don't need to do anything else for them.If they were an issue people wouldn't just forget them, they would whine about them and they don't cause they're not an issue.
>>741937032Prior to the nerf I died once but that's because I had no recovery items left after using them all against pink
>>741939106they absolutely were whined about at the time and even now people hold them up as "industry plant" characters
Half of these threads now are just outside shitposters who heard about shippers being disappointed and are operating under the assumption that this was some last minute turn and the game was just now ruined by some conspiratorial plot because they didn't actually play it
Are there any No-Hit secrets in this Chapter?
Which soundtrack is getting the number one spot by the community?In CH3+4 Black knife had a big lead first but ended up being mogged by Kino Time
>>741939183FLOWER MANFLOWER MAN
>>741934249>last two dialogue sprites light up from belowWhat did they find in the lake?
>>741939167there's probably a minor one for beating the first aqua fight no-hit
>>741939183FLOWER MAN, FLOWER MAN
>>741939092Spiders aren't bugs you stupid fucking cat
>>741939218WTF is this real?
>>741939151Make sure to swallow Tobys cum too bro
>>741939223you
>>741939004Actually false, I'm Italian>>741938852I've already been majorly spoilered on a bunch of shit but it's usually more about the journey for me anyways. Just hope weird route/hidden shit isn't TOO hidden.
>>741939218wtf thats me
>>741939089Did you pay attention to the fact that Chapter 4 explicitly established that Non-Krises can open fountains and that Asgore was fairly explicitly preparing to open a dark fountain?
>>741938790yeah in CHAPTER 2 not near the end of the game
>>741939250it's footage from the dark world
FUCK this guy.
>>741939183for me it'shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kGmc1BOyPY
>>741939306>Chapter 42 Anon. Remember Queens plan?
>>741939283>I'm Italian
>>741939283I cook-a da Onion
>>741939183Even the music was disappointing this time around, but probably Flowery or Aqua's themes.
>>741939378I do be liking the 'bundaI've come to accept it my niggerdom.Also holy shit anons weren't NONE of these niggas fuck with Kris.
i did not care for flower man
