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Is this valid?
Should you vet game devs before deciding whether you are willing to purchase their games and play them or not to see whether your money would go towards supporting someone who might actually hate you and wants you dead?
Like, we talk a lot about "separating the artist from the art" but do we really have to do that when ultimately we're still funding someone who doesn't agree with us?
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>Le culture war
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if its an artist i dont like and a game i dont like, i blame the artist for making the game shitty
if its an artist i dont like but they happen to make a good game, i can invoke death of the author
shrimple as
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>>741934707
There was a point in time where people couldn't just look up everything about you to decide if you were a good person or not to purchase a thing you made. Crazy huh
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>>741934707
Shitty artists will always put their belief into their work, they are incapable of separating themselves from their art. Not even for the sake of some hypothetical piece or work. It always needs to adhere to their specific ideological shit and cannot exist without it. And at that point they are not even artists but propagandists.
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>>741934707
Yes, absolutely. Money should never go to my enemies shitting up everything when it could be funding allies that make shit I actually want because they do as well.

Only a weak faggot still cares about muh high ground.
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Well the tweet obviously is only about reaction/drama channels and applying it to games is pretty dumb.
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I want to give money to people who make decent video games. I honestly don't care where they are on the political compass.
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>>741935457
Did you buy Dustborn
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>>741935457
did you buy ULTRAKILL?
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>>741934707
How about I give a flying fuck about devs?
You worked on game I played? I don't gibe a fuck. Your political opinion? I don't give a fuck. You don't want me to play your game because my political opinion? I don't give a fuck. The only thing I ask is: is the game good?
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>>741934707
The type you described isn’t a good person, and won’t make a good game. You can vet the game well enough before buying. If you’re really sensitive about specific beliefs, then I guess, but it’s usually best to take it at face value.
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>>741934707
That's the dumbest statement I've seen this month and that's saying something.
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>>741935568
He said decent video games.
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>>741934707
>Valid
Your entire framework is stupid.

> but do we really have to do that
No, you idiot. You can do anything you fucking want.

I don't give a fuck if someone agrees with me, but there's definitely a level of hostility from people like the Art Director on Avowed, or the parts of Bungie which tried to shut down 4chan to the tune of millions.

>>741935162
I don't consider a basic political disagreement an enemy. There are some fuckers out there who just want to skate uphill.
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>>741934707
nigga tryna do homework just to buy video games
nigga what the fuck is your problem
nigga does it look fun or not?? why do you have to perform mental gymnastics to determine whether or not you can properly enjoy a game?
nah you a nigger, nigger.
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Every western company has already shown they hate whites and want us dead.
The only holdout is Fromsoft and (((investors))) are doing everything they can to destroy them.

Just use SillyTavern and wait for the power grid to fail because they didn't want evil white men maintaining it.
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>>741936490
the only white thing about you is the paint on your walls mutt
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>>741936380
>You can do anything you fucking want.
Even rape children?
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>>741934794
>la consoom
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>>741936571
post hand jeet
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>>741936490
>>741936571
>>741937420
>You're brown!
>No, YOU'RE brown!
>You're double brown!
>You're triple brown!
>You're infinity brown!
>You're infinity times two brown!
Girls, girls, you're both brown. Can I go home now?
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>>741934707
>Is this valid?
No, because there are things what you disagree with somebody what are deal breaker or they do it in such way (like video being shit) it ruins your opinion of creator
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>e-celeb dick sucking thread
>but it's not
>literally says video in the xitter
Kill yourselves e-celeb dick suckers.
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>>741937620
all you have to do is post pic of your hand
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>>741934707
Death of the artist. I play games I find fun and interpret them as I want. I don't care about the creator in the slightest.
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>>741938108
We're all brown here. I'm brown. You're brown. You must be, or you wouldn't have come here.
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>>741934707
Browns or troons, I leave the room
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>>741938480
what room nigga?
you on a balcony.
you plunging to yo death if you leave.
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>>741934707
>Should you vet game devs to see whether your money would go towards supporting someone who might hate you and wants you dead?
>should
In the sense of it being a moral imperative, that's hard to say.
In the sense of having an ounce of self respect, yes, you should.
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>>741934707
>you are not allowed to call a shit game shit just because its shit and everyone knows its shit
LITERALLY
FUCKING
WHO
???
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>>741934823
>There was a point in time where people couldn't just look up everything about you to decide if you were a good person or not to purchase a thing you made. Crazy huh
There was a time when people didn't openly spout their garbage political extremism in public spaces. Crazy, huh?
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>>741938635
He's actually saying you should make sure they're sincere, not just engagement baiting.
But using "videos you might disagree with" as a metric for deciding someone is insincere is faggotry of the highest order. It reveals that he, himself, values ideological alignment over individual thought.
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>>741938390
I'm brown, and I'm going to point out any jew or tranny with problems is white.
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>twitter screencap of a blue check account
>no context so we're all left to assume whatever the fuck this conversation is about
Here to juice your engagement numbers? Trying to boost your payout before the month ends?
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>>741938793
the context is that cause the guy in question is vague posting about some creator he used to watch on youtube and liked, suddenly deciding to one day, when pressed on it, say that he thinks lolicon is degenerated and the people jerking it to that are pedophile-adjacent.
he's seething in replies to his original post where he vaguely denounces "people" who cannot "distinguish between reality and fiction" then uses his seethe about being called out and feeling betrayed that his once favorite creator he's a pedo to say you should vet anyone who creators any form of content, be it youtube videos, indie animations, books, art and whatnot before you decide to watch or engage with them just to make sure their views would align to yours so that you don't feel "betrayed" whenever it ultimately comes out that they are actually different than you in a lot of their beliefs.
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>>741934707
I click on a youtube channel and scout it out, if any of the following are true, I don't watch the video:
>has a twitter
>has a bluesky
>basedjak thumbnails
>doge/cheems
>has a sponsor
>any reference to "lolcows" such as cwc
>outrage baiting "disgusting pred groomer built penis on minecraft server"
>facecam for no good reason
>unrevealing titles that bait you into watching to find out what they're talking about
>videos are just vods of generic twitch stream where streamer says the word "chat" every four seconds
>title uses the word "woke" (ironically or unironically)
>AI slop thumbnails
>thumbnails where there's outlines of things but they're blacked out with a "?" over them
>youtuber only cares about popular games and just chases trends instead of playing what they feel like
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>>741934707
Do what you want. At the end of the day you're just sacrificing your time to make sure that you don't accidentally enjoy content from people you disagree with. I'm not missing out on anything nor am I bothered by you choosing to do that.

But it is ironic because that's precisely what the OP image is arguing but in regards to videos.
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>>741936601
If that's your idea of valid, I'm not going to fucking stop you. Love is love. But get the fuck out of there and take your thread with you.
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creator made something I like
creator also made something I don't like
wat do

a) consume the thing you like, ignore the thing you don't like
b) troon out and try to get creator cancelled
c) try to suck own dick
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>>741939936
I'm too fat to suck my own dick
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>>741934707
Breaking news for the unemployed
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Ultrakill is a metaphor for the trans experience
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>>741939214
>people you disagree with
I believe OP said "people who hate you and want you dead".
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>>741934794
fpbp
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>>741934707
surely you're trolling and not this bad at comprehending what you read
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>>741942430
Who wants me dead exactly? Can you send me his or hers address? Why'd they want me dead?
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You can try to separate the artist from the art, but that doesn't mean you have to financially fund the artist to enjoy the art.
That said, usually a person's character shines through their art, so I'm not sure that separation is really possible in most cases
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>>741942743
Oh look, it's pretending not to understand again.
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>>741936490
>FROM
>Western
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>>741934794
Funny how it wasn't a "culture war" until people started resisting it
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>>741939214
>that you don't accidentally enjoy content from people you disagree with
The question was not about enjoying contend. It was specifically about buying games, i.e. funding people.
And it was not about people you disagree with, it was about people you disagree with on such a fundamental level that coexistence with them in the same society is impossible
But you understood that perfectly well
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>>741934707
Actually yes. If they're anti-White, anti-male or anti-straight then yes, they should be banned.
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>>741934707
It is indeed valid, but it's speedrunning the black pill of realizing basically all ecelebs are trend chasing bots.
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>>741938390
sounds like streetshitter cope ngl
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>>741934794
>have the entire internet in your pocket
>endless resources to educate yourself and broaden your horizon
>instead use it for petty tribal wars
Humans were a mistake.
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>>741934707
You can like a singular thing made by someone, you know. This statement frames things in a way that makes it seem you gotta marry the creator/artist entirely. It's fucking retarded.
I played Disco Elysium and had a lot of fun, doesn't mean I agree with what the retarded devs did at the Game Awards, nor that I will disavow the game.
The fact you should be worrying about here is that you actually think that you are part of a hivemind speaking of a "we" and saying "we're funding them"like there should be a collective consensus to boycott someone for being a fag. That'd only make sense if you ignore all the other perspectives peoeple can have; the fact 100 people enjoy the same game doesn't imply they share all the same worldview.
I wanna gouge your eyes out and cut your fingers so you never write retarded takes here.
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>>741934707
>Is this valid?
if you're a joyless nonce, yeah
>Should you vet game devs before deciding whether you are willing to purchase their games and play them or not to see whether your money would go towards supporting someone who might actually hate you and wants you dead?
who fucking cares? I hate coming in to threads and saying this shit but >>741934794 really got the fippy bippy here.

And let's be real here
the screencap isn't about any real artist or developer. It's about the social parasite known as the "content creator" that goes around farming engagement or opinions or drama.... and the completely atrophied brains of the people who enjoy this mindless passive consumption and people telling them what they are supposed to think, rather than actually going out and experiencing art for themselves.
We're talking about people who post something like this without batting an eye... because what they are truly afraid of is that they might develop the wrong opinion, that someone might convince them of agreeing with something that is considered wrongthink.
That's the problem with /v/, there's too many of you retards here who can't think for themselves or form their own fucking opinion.
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>>741943692
Follow the brown rabbit.
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>>741934707
If I can consume a product without knowing what the creator’s beliefs are, then those beliefs don’t matter since they’re capable of keeping them to themselves.
Simple as.
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>>741934707
>the only way you could disagree with me is if you're a clout chaser
That mindset is fucked in the head.
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>>741935457
What if the political compass sits on "hire people based on race and reform society by making things intentionally ugly and gay"?
Do you think that that might have a correlation with not hiring the best people and not making the best games?
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>>741942928
Just because you only started paying attention when you were old enough to care about politics doesn't mean this shit only just started once you specifically noticed it.
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>>741934707
I've ready that tweet several times and still can't understand whether lack or presence of disagreable opinions supposed to be a sign of a grifter.
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>>741938390
but I'm blue
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>>741946893
Depends on if your own opinions are good or bad.
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>>741942839
No, you just make these ridiculous bombastic claims as what, a call to action or something? Get people riled up? I was around in the Bush era I know your fucking game you snake.
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>missing the point so hard that you read the exact opposite of what someone is actually saying
We're reaching tard levels that shouldn't be possible with our current model of the universe.
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>>741942585
you sound like you want cock in your mouth
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If a creator thinks differently artistically I keep watching him.
If a creator thinks differently politically I stop watching him.

Simple as.
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>>741948726
okay pedo. keep seething.
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>>741943867
>tfw there's now a financial incentive to flood the Internet with outrage bait to keep everyone bickering about dumb shit
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>>741945481
Congratulations on completely failing to understand a 50 word tweet.
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>>741949349
Erm.. based
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>>741934707
Any game dev that attacks their customer should be blacklisted
Doesn't matter if they are one person in a team of 499 other individuals who are not like that. They are a cancer and deserve to never work in gamedev ever again.
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>>741945673
I don't think you understood my post at all
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>>741934707
If the game has overt modern woke elements in it - it's not a good game. Devs who put that garbage in there are just not good devs, they are either stupid or evil, and neither is capable of making good games.

When you see a woke game - you see a bad game. You see a game made by a dev too stupid to give it a good story, to design it well, etc. Or too evil to make something that makes you happy. Separating the art from the artist can be done when it's some shit like music, because even a retard or an evil cunt can make good music, but games are a much more involved thing, so this separation doesn't apply.
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You can tell the political alignment from their art anyway. They also make it too obvious with their socials virtue signaling.

>DEI everywhere
>Boobs never go above b-cup
>women ugly and nasolabial folds
>trans faggotry
>flags on the devs bio's
>Support Black Lives Matter and Pride on the devs official socials etc.

see the Mortal Shell 2 devs who have a bluesly account (avoid), like Mina the Hollower, big fans of BLM
https://x.com/MortalShellGame/status/1267879584701100033
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>>741953445
This. You don't even need to check their social media. They broadcast it with the stylistic decisions they make, which are used to signal in-group conformity and support.
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>>741936164
You are bittom of the barrel goy. The type that the (((tribe))) can rely on to just buy anything because you "just don't give a fuck" about anything. Worse than even a fence sitter, at least a fence sitter CARES about their smug opinions
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>>741934707
What in the fuck does "valid" even means?
Will you pieces of shit stop making shit up?



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