>Mine will be an order not of gold, but the stars and moon of the chill night. I would keep them far from the earth beneath our feet. As it is now, life, and souls, and order are bound tightly together, but I would have them at great remove. And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch... All become impossibilities. Which is why I would abandon this soil,with mine order.What the fuck does that mean? I've thought about it and I've come to a conclusion, it doesn't mean anything. None of the fucking factions in this game tell you what they want besides the Frenzied Flame (burn the world into nothingness) and Volcano Manor (the strong take, might makes right) and Volcano Manor doesn't even get an ending. Everyone else talks a bunch of straight up nonsense and never tells you what they're actually going to do. That's my issue with the story of this game, there is none. All these lore channels and analyses are ultimately just peoples head cannons. There is no deeper story, it's all just a big Rorschach blot, where people project their own personal philosophies onto their favorite ending. People act like Fromsoft was working with some sort of cohesive lore book behind the scenes, but I don't think so. I think the lore is legitimate nonsense, just crap that writers wrote becasue it sounds cool.And I think that's lame as fuck. The game is great, don't get me wrong, but the lack of a real story holds it back so much.
not reading that
>>741943671It means her pussy is cold and you're gonna warm it up and breed her with 20 children.
>>741943671Based Messiah figure saving mankind from aliens with her husbant.
>>741943769WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT IN THE GAME?
>>741943671Have you ever heard of "Chuuniyoubu"?She's saying this for the same reason she made you put the ring on her doll finger after she killed her two fingers.She thinks it's cool.
>>741943671>What the fuck does that mean?The ring being so close to people is driving them insane under the systems of control the ringbearer uses. Ranni understands this because she had forbidden communions with her dark moon. Her age will make the ring and its effects distant and cold, it won't effect you like it does under orders that hold it on the planet. Instead of your life being directly linked to the ring in a manner even a serf could understand it will be distant and far and effect things in such a round about way that you won't suffer from it. You can still suffer though, because now you are left to your own devices so steely up to survive the long night that comes. Glory to Mankind. >>741943797Ending cutscene anon laid out. You have to understand the story of elden ring to understand what she's saying.
Story doesn't matter, it just has to look cool and have a bunch of bad mofo's for me to kill
>>741943943So basically her ending turns the lands between into a world more like earth where magical shit is just a myth
>>741943916sorry i think its actually chuunibyu or something closer to that. point is she's just a (cute) dork and thats a good thing
Better than the mended death ruin ending. I have no clue what the fuck it means. I thought we were just bringing death back so there was a release from suffering but it's apparently about giving rights to the non sentient undead mobs in the game?!
>>741943943>The ring being so close to people is driving them insane under the systems of control the ringbearer uses. Ranni understands this because she had forbidden communions with her dark moon. Her age will make the ring and its effects distant and cold, it won't effect you like it does under orders that hold it on the planet. Instead of your life being directly linked to the ring in a manner even a serf could understand it will be distant and far and effect things in such a round about way that you won't suffer from it. You can still suffer though, because now you are left to your own devices so steely up to survive the long night that comes.Where does it say that in the game? What does having "the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch. All become impossibilities." Mean? It's nonsense bro, just accept it. Just because a lore YouTuber said something doesn't mean it's true.
>>741943994Maybe, all it does is make the aliens that send themselves to the lands between on meteors to fight over the ring not land on the planet anymore. If one of the aliens decides he wants to landfall the lands between for funsies or to just make people suffer they can still do that.
>>741944154Ending cutscene anon laid out. You have to understand the story of elden ring to understand what she's saying.
>>741944218Is English not your first language? What are you saying?
>>741944154>>741944259I'm joking with you because this stuff is self explanatory if you have an education in these topics. Read on Will and Representation, you'll unironically get it after you read it. The things Ranni talks about are Representations of Will that can be experienced via the ring. Taking the ring away robs people of that experience but they probably shouldn't be having that experience to begin with when you look at the outcomes. The issue presented in the game is the ultimate Will being represented is that of the GW and no one can understand the why on any of creation's design. If you can't glean the why with your mortal mind then seeing it at all is only going to be corruptive. What is an apple? Is it a foodstuff? Only a foodstuff? That is what Will and Representation deals in.
niggas not knowing the simple story that's plainly laid out makes me chuckle.
>>741944372You're projecting you're favorite book on philosophy onto Elden Ring's lore. There is no evidence that's what was intended by the writers. Does that book even have a Japanese translation?
It's impossible to talk about ER's lore because 80% of it is not in the actual game. You can have several autistic lorefags come up with several different versions of the same events and there's nothing in the game to prove or disprove them. It's tiresome and quite frankly overplayed at this point.
>>741944443My favorite book isn't Will and Representation though, it is The Whale. I could go on a huge aside about Igon being Ahab which puts us into an Ishmael role seeing his self destruction with Bayle but that isn't what you asked about. >>74194451299% of the lore is in the game. The 1% that isn't is in trailers that are also supported by the game content. People can tell what is happening in the SotE trailer because the actual game goes over how shamans were jarred in meticulous detail.
>>741944610Go back to getting roasted on rpg codex faggot
>>741944667What is that?
>>741944512This is why the story in demon's souls is still the best. Everything is contained in the game and it stays simple. There's a king who went mad with power after he found out how to manipulate souls for magic, now you gotta stop him. That's all you need
>>741943943>The ring being so close to people is driving them insane under the systems of control the ringbearer usesNothing in the game says this and this is baseless speculation, btw.
>>741943671She wants to ascend humanity from their bodies and have their souls endlessly wander the stars with her, I think.
>>741944512fax>>741944610See, you're not actually talking about what's in the game, you're talking about books you like, this is what 99% of lore YouTubers do.
>>741944740Demon's souls and bloodborne both pretty much spell everything out. AC6 too.
>>741944752Windmill village shows the elden beast on the blue cloaks, people are being driven insane by these aliens my dude. Normal people revolted against the Fundamentalists and crucified them on a coast so they can wail into the void without bothering them. The people not being driven insane are suffering by the people being insane. Madness as an ailment is spreading thru the land. >>741944785I'm talking about what is in the game. You just don't understand it.
The pre day one patch having different item descriptions and allusions to totally different lore black pilled me on most ER lore and quite literally makes me think it's all an afterthought puzzled together from the world being designed as a game first.
>>741944512Alchemy fags and Jung fags have caused irreparable damage to ER lore discussion, they don't even care about discussing the game they're just pretentious pseudo intellectuals who want to flex what they learned in their Philosophy 101 elective that they took on a whim because they figured it would be an easy A
>>741944759No she doesn't, stop making shit up.
>>741944809Bloodborne is good too
>>741944927It isn't the educated's fault you can't understand themes the game is based on.
>>741944884>Windmill village shows the elden beast on the blue cloaksThis does nothing to prove this>people are being driven insane by these aliens my dudeThese are two completely unrelated sentences yet you placed them one after the other as if you think they're related somehow.Yes, people in the Lands Between are all insane, but that's explicitly because they've been alive for so long and because the Order is shattered so people are constantly fighting.
>>741943671Think less about the implications of Ranni's ending (which are pretty whatever). Since Dark Souls 2, From Software have been on about the idea of "want" at a certain point being a bad thing. Wanting ever more is a bad thing. Vilhelm, Shira, and Friede all espouse this. In Bloodborne, going for 100% completion turns you into a slug that can't fuck anymore. In Elden Ring, Radagon and Marika wanting to be gods leads to their direct ruin. The only thing Ranni wants is to be out from under the Two Fingers, and if the player aids her, then she gets what she wants. Miquella, like Radagon and Marika, wants to be a god, and so we strike him down. There's lots of flowery language, but that's really what Ranni's ending is: Self-actualization without overreaching desire. "Tend your garden" (Voltaire) and all that jazz.Other endings are pretty dogshit like Fia's holy shit.
>>741945010They can only understand the theme of le strugglerman self inserts because they are depressed walmart greeters spiritually. >>741945035It is fine if you don't understand the topics being discussed.
>>741945010Themes and lore aren't the same thing anyways.
>>741944884>>741945010Get a job nigger.
>>741945010It's not 1652 anymore, alchemy isn't an esoteric concept. Almost everyone on this website has seen the same pop psychology youtube videos you saw when you first learned about the concept.
>>741945065It really is fine if you don't understand what we are discussing. Why does talking about this stuff trigger the most caveman primitive hatred? Is it just idiots realizing how idiotic they are and being the big mad?
DUDE I fucking LOVE vibe based lore!
>>741945048>fail to argue for your point properly>pretend that because people don't accept your shitty argument that they just don't understandYeah you're checking all the boxes for your typical schizo "lore" fag with an aversion to actual in-game text. Play the game before talking about the lore, please.
>>741945153>Is it just idiots realizing how idiotic they are and being the big mad?Every single time. You can bring up how the shadows in this game are a 1:1 rendition of what a shadow is in Jungian philo and it would cause chimp rage. >>741945184pic rel
>>741943671This one is the obligatory goonbait ending, which millions of permavirgin losers chose in spite of the horrifying implications of it. The image below the cathedral should give you pause if you know some lore (except if your brain is fried by waifu and anime crap). Best ending is by far dung eater (revenge and curse your enemies, most manly), followed by shabriri (complete destruction of all bullshit), and in 3rd place goldmask (debate god and win in t-pose). Of course, you have to not be a ksh virgin first, which 90% of this board isnt, so most chose ranni and will debate you for hundreds of posts about it
>>741943671It's the Freedom end. Instead of the world being rewritten and swayed on the whims of whoever has the elden ring, nobody can directly effect it.
>>741943671Nothing, correctIt means fuck all, like everything means fuck all, because everything in Fromshit games is fanficEven the most obvious shit, like Miquella trying to revive Godwyn by using the eclipse, turns out to be just that the MiyaHACKi actually made some retarded nonsense up that didn't have to do anything with what was in the game when the DLC cameSo, since it wasn't later expanded upon, it means fucking nothingWhat it should mean is that you go away with her to defend the lands from ayylmaos (including the order and all that)What it could mean if MiyaHACKi made a DLC is whatever random fuckass dogshit, like she is going to summon an elder god in a random fuckass place you reach through a portal that was never mentioned butwasalwaystherewepromise and then you fight uhm... Marika? Fuck it why not, you fight Marika and phase to Ranni appears and shoves Marik'as hand up her doll ass, then you fight "Promised Consort Marika" because all this was just so Ranni could fuck her stepmom, actually
>>741944114I really don't understand this ending. At least Ranni's seems vaguely cool.
>>741943671IIRC they botched the translation of this badly and it has a different and clearer meaning in japanese but it's been years and I don't remember it look up yourself
>>741943671>the lack of a real story holds it back so much.No it doesn't, dilate.
>>741945280>You learn this shit in 10th grade!>"aesthetics philosophy"I was learning how to repair cars, bro.
>>741945280>You can bring up how the shadows in this game are a 1:1 rendition of what a shadow is in Jungian philo and it would cause chimp rage.Sorry I just thought this was an Elden Ring lore discussion thread and not a Jungian philosophy discussion thread.
>>741945318TWWID were seen as bad and hunted by a group of inquisitor style executioners. The mending rune of undeath removes the stigma of TWWID within the GO by accepting Godwyn's burial under the erdtree. Use your brain to extrapolate what would happen as time went on. >>741945391It is, anon is talking about Serosh and Blaidd from Elden Ring.
>>741943671Michael Zacki is a massive Berserk Fan.The GW, Metyr + Fingers and the Elden Ring are all based on the Idea of Evil and the Godhand from that series.In Berserk, humanities collective unconsciousness creates a god in the Astral Plane that can manipulate and control fate. It guides humanity into basically committing evil acts and ascending to demons and if super special, a member of the God Hand. All to make evil gods that control people to spread more evil, because mankind craves suffering.Like most grim dark fantasy scenarios, the protagonists are technically stupid for fighting it because they cannot grasp that humanity deeply desires the order it brings, even if at face value it's bad.In Elden Ring, the world was created by cosmic worm and ordered by its cosmic finger worm sister at the behest of an abstract apathetic creator. Just like the Idea of Evil, it doesn't care about what is done, just how it's done.Ranni is proposing they take the ring off the planet and end its reign on the world, the equivalent of "lets just throw the beherits into space".
>>741945442>It is, anon is talking about Serosh and Blaidd from Elden Ring.No, he was talking about Jungian philosophy, not Elden Ring lore.
>>741944114>Oh this seems a nice ending, letting the dead finally rest and all that>Wait what the fuck do you mean what it does is actually let them live forever as undead monstrosities but with rights or some shit? HUH?
>>741945442Why would stigma matter, sentient people just think zombies are gross even without stigma
>>741944114Basically make it so holy damage doesn't insta murder skellies and when you die, your body continues to live.
>>741945487He mentioned the shadows in elden ring, there are 2 of them - Serosh and Blaidd. You'll meet them as you play the game more don't stress this kind of stuff. >>741945537Reality is dictated by intelligence and faith intertwining, and the people believe that godwyn being buried at the roots of the erdtree was a mistake, it fuels all the stigma for those who walk in death because they exist in opposition to the erdtree on which their faith is based. The mending runes mend the ring, which is a representation of how life's energies flow.
>>741945567>and when you die, your body continues to live.At that point in the game I had been subjected to immortal people suffering on crucifixes, I wanted the opposite of that.
>>741945509you'll become one of them most likely. Their infection spreads like a disease they will eventually get into all strata of life with nothing holding them back.
>>741945671>He mentioned the shadows in elden ring, there are 2 of them - Serosh and Blaidd. You'll meet them as you play the game more don't stress this kind of stuff.>le shadow = le JungYou have the mindset of someone who just discovered Jung yesterday and now thinks everything in the world is about Jung.
>If it isn't explicitly and bluntly stated without metaphor then there's no storyFailed lit, huh?
>>741944154>Where does it say that in game.It doesn't it's pieced together with other facts, here are some.>At some point shit was immortal, several items talk about the erdtree constantly healing shit>Destined Death, a rune from the Elden Ring was sealed inside Malikath. We know this was a power that could kill gods as it killed Godwyn. The Erdtree can't die until you release it>All the humans that aren't tarnished as fucking hollows, they have grace because their eyes are golden. Several items imply they're "undead" even though they aren't those who live in death.We can presume with this and other factors, that the Elden Ring has power over how shit works in the setting.
>>741945761He's talking about Serosh and Blaidd though, the 2 shadows from Elden Ring.>>741945808Do you know how many cars he has to fix today he ain't got time for this shit.
>>741944610Still no explanation of the thing she pulls the hair out of it what the hair was.
>>741945863>He's talking about Serosh and Blaidd though, the 2 shadows from Elden Ring.Just stop this lazy routine, it's not working.
Every time I see a thread questioning an ER ending, I see completely new takes on what they mean.
>>741945837No that's because Marika sealed away the rune of death. The fact that there are catacombs implies that people used to die.
>>741945893If you're talking about the DLC trailer that's not hair it's runes and she's using them to make herself a God.
>>741945893Blonde hair from her people. She holds it up to show the power beyond the gate that the sacrifice was hers and not the hornsent's so she gets the boon of the god instead of them.
>>741944884>Windmill village has Elden Beast on the cloakEVERYBODY RUN IT'S SUNREALM SCHIZO!
>>741945932That's my FUCKING point. It's a Rorschach blot, it has no meaning beyond what the observer applies to it.
>>741945993You can just tell by the way he types. Crazy how a person can be so pretentious and arrogant while simultaneously being wrong about pretty much everything.
>>741945932Because people know what the endings mean so idiots try to make up nonsense to portray the game as dumb, it is an old tactic that never works because the truth is in fact self evident. >>741945993Swing and a miss (again).
>>741943671>but I would have them at great removejeet detected
wtf. you niggers are actual low iq apes. there's no way youre scratching your head over this lmao
>>741945985>That's not hair>>741945990>That's the hair of her people
>>741945719I think it's different. Those guys are suffering from Marika's "Eternal" bullshit.I think TWLID is like your skeleton being born when you die. Why should your skeleton suffer for your sins?
>>741946102>Crazy how a person can be so pretentious and arrogantProbably because the things he's discussing have been discussed for hundreds of years. Immanuel Kant was born 300 years ago my dude.
>>741945721That too, what seems like a nice ending at first turns out is you actually basically release an unstoppable pandemic that will turn everyone into zombies
>>741946151>That's the hair of her peopleCorrect. The game goes over what jarring is and tells you the hornsent were using jarring to try and open the divine gate. It even goes over the failures that happen when they tried using hornsent so you know what group they used as an alternative.
>>741946152I mean, wouldn't it, incidentally? Like if a dude dies in a cave in, his skeleton would be fucked too. That doesn't seem like a good thing if I choose to empathize with the skeleton.
>>741945973I didn't say people were always immortal, I said Marika made it so. I don't believe Erdtree burial was ever something that happened when people died anyway, I think you literally "killed yourself" on the Erdtree when your body got too fucked from time.The game is unclear about it all anyway and it makes it seem like Marika tried a lot of different things to make people immortal.
>>741945985>I made this the fuck up do you like it?It has been basically confirmed that the DLC was for a completely different DLC retard lmao
>>741946331The trailer for the DLC* FUCK
>>741946236It is the true egalitarian ending as opposed to dungeater's. Ironeye from Nightreign comes from the Fia ending timeline so it isn't just a reality of nothingness in the end, and Ironeye is sort of a slave that revolts so the inequality of reality reasserts itself over time.
>>741945985>>741945990>>741946151And no one answered what she pulls it out of lmao.
>>741943671That reminds me. I need to put the futa Ranni/Marika VR videos back in my fap rotation.
>>741946383Broken jars. The hornsent jarred shamans and tried to turn them into saints as sacrifices to open the divine gate.
>>741946436Why did you remove them
>>741944954What makes you so certain im wrong? Im just trying to interpret what she said.>I would keep them far from the earth beneath our feet. As it is now, life, and souls, and order are bound tightly together, but I would have them at great remove. And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch... All become impossibilities. Which is why I would abandon this soilIf you have proof to the contrary fair enough, but i think my little theory is just as valid as any other.
>>741946481Offloading stuff to cold storage, and they got included.
>2 fingers and 3 fingers is a reference to a schism in the christian church>2 fingers has a stigmata on the wrist, 3 fingers on the palmthose cheeky bastids.
>>741946436Futa is garbage why do you like that shit, I'm dissapointed in you
>>741946452Why is it bag like but also making fleshy noises? People were saying it was a baby swaddled in cloth, people were saying it was a big snake's eye, people were saying it's the gloam eyed queen in godskin.
>>741946174>probably because the things he's discussing have been discussed for hundreds of years.Yeah and we're discussing Elden Ring lore here, not 300 year old philosophy. Stop saying "he" nobody is fooled by that you retarded.
>>741946618>can't form sentencesThis is where hatred of big floppy cocks gets you.
>>741946642Shamans have malleable bodies, they literally fuse with things.>>741946680You have a mental illness.
>>741943671She's basically leaving the world in an anarchy where people will have to relearn everything themselves, and cannot rely on a God or a religion to tell them what to do.Its the Age of Dark ending redone. The whole thing of the Age of Dark was the courage of choosing the unknown because the system had broken down too much. The one hiccup is that Ranni is still technically in control of the Elden Ring and could change her mind.
>>741946151The guy saying it's hair is retarded. Runes is literally the only thing it could possibly be, she's pulling it directly out of bodies and we know that becoming a God involves amassing a huge amount of runes by killing other creatures. The shape that the strand of runes takes when Marika grabs it is the exact same curved shape as Marika's great rune. That's the whole point of the Gate of Divinity, it's just a massive sacrifice of bodies in order to collect all their runes in one place to make one person a God.
>>741946642People also correctly assessed it was blonde hair on the day the trailer dropped.
>>741946734So you're arguing it was on of these? I'm not seeing it.
>>741946865True. Probably why anon won't accept it and is trying to peddle untruths as an alternative like anon said.
>>741945993I don't know why this looks like Metyr or why those women would know anything about Metyr, but it looks like Metyr.
Dark Souls "lore" is basically a bunch of schizos making shit up based on things like the placement of the poo eater helmet and its description, which reads something like "This helmet was once worn by the 12th knight Zanzibart fought at the battle of Forgiveness Hills. Few of its make remain nowadays."
>>741946939There was obviously some cut content that tied Metyr to the Gloam Eyed Queen that I guess got retconned by the DLC. The symbol for the Godskin incantations is highly suspect.
>>741946992Not all of us do that. Some of us just read what the game tells us.
>>741946734Where on the tumor woman is this?
>>741943671It means she's the worst whore in a game full of dogshit waifus. Constantly gives you attitude and bosses you around when she needs you to set the stars back in motion and then throws you away like a little worn-out bicycle, then when you beg her to respond to your $10 twitch donation she graciously allows you to be her slave for one more shit test of killing her dog so she can be sure that you're a useless easily cucked simp with no self-respect. Anyone taking elden ring lore seriously should kill himself.
>>741946939It is the hallway of the erdtree leading to the boss fogwall but showing the boss and the anvil behind the wall. That is the pose the elden beast makes in the cutscene introducing it, the roar it does. You can clearly see the branches lining the hallway and the anvil that marika broke the ring on in the middle with the beast and the starlight inside it in the pose it strikes when it shows up.
>>741947073It's so obviously a snake it's not even funny
>>741947073No seriously WHAT the fuck is this!
>>741947083Holy shit why are you so mad hahahah
>>741947131It looks like a cloth vagina
>>741947136Looks familiar
>>741947072Which is fuckall.
>>741947220>Which is fuckall.https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AsteriskAmpersand/Carian-Archive/main/Master.html
>>741947084I can see it. >>741947028Not really cut, the icon shows up on Jolen's armor too, Metyr created blackflame to kill off empires that didn't contact the GW.
>when the lore you've been piecing together gets flattened by the DLC
So Melina is GEQ and Marika's daughter, right?
>>741947084The general design does match.
>>741947328She is Marika's daughter and it seems likely that the Gloam Eyed Queen was sealed inside of her, either in whole or in part.
>>741943671i wonder why fromsoft started to use anime style character designs in their games. feels so incredibly unfitting and makes their games look gaudy and trite.
>>741947307Skissue (skill + issue).
>>741947328Yes, base game establishes this but you need to do the FF ending to see it. >>741947398Wait until you see the girls from king's field, their first ever series.
>>741947398Are you joking?
>>741947398Hey don't be retarded, k?
>>741947149Because her retarded questline ruined my first playthrough. I spent days exploring and revisiting practically every single inch of land from her tower to the aids swamp because I didn't know she was tied to the progression and you have to do exactly as she says and talk to her retarded minions in the proper sequence or the festival doesn't spawn and you can't move to the midgame.
>>741943671You have to be a non-English speaker to not understand what she is saying.She's talking about separating divinity from reality, creating the concept of faith. ie. making things work like our world, where no one knows anything about the afterlife or fundamental truths of the universe.
>>741947458>Wait until you see the girls from king's field, their first ever series.you mean the series that resembles classic retro dnd art?
>>741947554No, the one that has all anime girls in it. One of the games is dominated by an oneitis demon girl that from has referenced a bunch in other games. She unironically looks like someone from Viper GTS lol.
>>741947532this. holy fuck so happy to finally see someone with an understanding of english beyond middle school.
>>741947210It does seem the most likely. I can't see a particular part where it makes sense, but you can see "stitches" on the lip.So maybe it really is the GEQ.
>>741947643It isn't. The game goes over how the divine gate ritual works and that leaves only 1 option for what it is.
>>741947695Could you explain more?
>>741947726Jarred shamans.
>>741947613Which King's Field would that be?
>>741947695The ritual on the birch? Explains the ascending god needs an anchor to bring them back from the gate.
>>741943671>What the fuck does that mean? I've thought about it and I've come to a conclusion, it doesn't mean anythingyou are legit retarded
>>741947765Meat balls are used to build the gate what are you talking about?
>>741947797>tfw legit retarded
>>741947765What in the game tells you that they used jarred shamans for the divine gate?
>>741947907Shadow of the Erdtree.
>>741947517>or the festival doesn't spawn and you can't move to the midgame.I'm pretty sure the festival starts as soon as you get to Altus.
>>741947950Can you be more specific? What specifically in the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC told you that they used jarred shamans for the divine gate?
>>741948004Potentate gear goes over hornsent jarring shamans, toothed whip shows what can happen, lamenter's mask shows what happened when they used their own people.
>>741947532>>741947797Explain what having "the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch. All become impossibilities." means. The faith part makes sense in your interpretation, but the rest sounds like blinding the world.
>>741948072People can glean the inner working of reality thru the expression of the elden ring, without the ring they can't do that.
>>741948068Well I just went and did a read of the item description associated with that stuff and I don't see any mention of using jarred shamans for the gate of divinity. Can you screenshot or link the specific text or dialogue where you got this idea from?
>>741948131Where does it say that in the game?
>>741948282In Ranni's ending. >>741948247Belerut connects to Enir ilim.
>>741948247Not him, but it's clear based on the pile of corpses and various parts of the tower shifting from stone to piles of corpses indicates that that the jarred shamans, mixed with hornsent sinners, were used to construct the spiral tower.No idea what he means by it having anything to do with what Marika pulled the hair out of.
>>741948282Marika removes the rune of death and installs a rune of the unborn into it. She fundamentally understands what the ring is in relation to reality.
>>741948072Under the Golden Order there is one official orthodox faith that all people are expected to follow which definitively says "this is how the world works and anything that contradicts this is a lie" and anything outside that one unified doctrine is considered heresy, falsehood, or even metaphysically impossible. With Ranni's Order there wouldn't be one single unified way of life that she enforces people to follow, instead it'll be more like real life where we have countless different religious and philosophies all trying to explain the nature of the universe and nobody can definitively prove which ones are true and which ones are false.
>>741948358>>741948409Is there any text or dialogue in the game that supports this interpretation?
>>741948358Where?>>741948425>Marika removes the rune of death and installs a rune of the unborn into it.Then how does Rennala have the rune of the unborn? Like she's who you get it from, it's not in the Elden Ring.
>>741943671It brings the Order back to the Stars, where it will affect Fate through moonlight instead of the light of the Erdtree, meaning the Order won't command Souls into a defined cycle of Life and DeathYou are actually stupid but then again 99% of the world is too stupid to understand most of the Souls lore
>>741948438Yeah but sight and touch aren't uncertain, unless you're disabled. You're spouting psychobabble.
>>741948480Tons of it. A bunch of items are dedicated to explaining the jarring process. >>741948494Radagon gave it to her to hold like how Marika gave the rune of death to Maliketh to hold. She understood what the ring was.
>Mine will be an order of CUTE
>>741948545Read about rationalist philosophy.
>>741948516Yeah but what does that actually entail? Fate being guided by moonlight doesn't actually mean anything.
>>741948591>Tons of itI can't find it. Could you share a screenshot or give me a link to what you're referring to?
>>741948619We're actually talking about video game lore. Unless you can prove the game writers were pulling from that it's irrelevant.
>>741948680Anon already listed a bunch of the items and you said you looked them up already.
>>741943671Chuuni bullshit. Her real motive is that she wants you to escape The Lands Between with her because it's destined to be raped by deathblight (her fault btw).
>>741948732Yeah and none of those items said anything about jarred shamans being used for the divine gate. So if he could just screenshot or link the specific text or dialogue where he got that information it would help a lot.
>>741948494The Egg received the rune of the unborn after the shattering, Radagon didn't hand her the rune straight up he was LONG gone at that point.
>>741948680>I can't find it.>Well I just went and did a read of the item description associated with that stuff>>741948759Not an issue after the rune of death is unbound.
>>741948598BASED
>>741948818>Not an issue after the rune of death is unbound.It literally still is. No where in the game is that even implied.
>>741948818>>I can't find it.>>Well I just went and did a read of the item description associated with that stuffWhy did you cut off the rest of the quote?>and I don't see any mention of using jarred shamans for the gate of divinity.Can you link to the specific item description or dialogue that says this? Because I couldn't find it even after I looked at the items you mentioned earlier.
>>741943671god you don't know shit. read the back of the ketchup bottle you get from the hidden chest underneath the ruins of zanzibart. it explains literally all of this m
>>741948903It literally isn't. with death unbound Godwyn can be killed. Gurranq eats all the deathroot also. >>741948929Already have.
Is it me or did fromsoft change how they do their lore? Like none of the lore youtubers' videos on demons souls, dark sousl 1, dark souls 2, and darks ouls 3 were all talking about like real world alchemy and philosophy and history references, but I feel like so much of that is in elden ring. Did fromsoft just like decide, FUCK IT WE'RE READING WIKIPEDIA AND MAKING LORE BASED OFF SHIT THATS COOL IRL or are lore youtubers just being weird and extra
Here's another question I should have added to the OP post. What does Goldmasks ending entail? That one is even more obscure and obnoxiously vague.
>>741948982>Already have.No you didn't. You haven't provided any screenshots or links like I asked for.
She wouldn't be an active figurehead like Marika with clear laws and so on. She'd let everyone figure it out on their own and make their own meaning.It might be an error on her part, but her whole deal is the rejection of the fingers(as they've gone insane and are not actually guided by a godlike intelligence).
>>741948480None that I remember, just a lot of dialog about how "shamans belong in the jars" and shit.The jarring Gaols are filled to the brim with jars, there had to be some purpose for the process and the tower itself is made of a lot of meat. Even Marika walking on the steps up were gooey and red.
>>741949040It involves re-establishing the Golden Order as it was and making sure no one can fuck with it. He's the ultimate bootlicking cuck.
>>741948982>It literally isn't. with death unbound Godwyn can be killed.When does that happen?>Gurranq eats all the deathroot also. Yeah and he crashes out when he does because it doesn't actually fix anything.
>>741949040Goldmask's is the most simple and straightforward. It's just the Golden Order but the Gods have no agency or ability to modify the Elden Ring.
>>741949040Golden Order except forever, no editing the ring, Marika can't do shit.
>>741949098Whenever you want it to.
>>741949058>She wouldn't be an active figurehead like Marika with clear laws and so on. She'd let everyone figure it out on their own and make their own meaning.I'm repeating myself here, but where does it say that in the game?
>>741948759Why he look like that
>>741949036george is a real author of actual books. they tend to research stuff unlike jrpgs that just copy random mythological words that sound cool.
>>741949169You never fight Godwyn. What are you talking about?
>>741949036People noticed references to shit like alchemical stuff and the Sunrealm Schizo suddenly said 'It would be funny if I got people to read William Blake's satirical religion by pretending it was crucial to the plot of Elden RIng.
>>741949112He'd become the new fly in the ointment when you realize he is just a hornsent that has issues with Marika blowing his people out. He isn't as objective as he makes his position appear. >>741949170Ranni's ending.
>>741949232We have no clue how much of the story was written by George.
>>741949243I understand your confusion. The thing making TWWID possible is the unkillable demigod rotting at the base of the erdtree. The rune of death is unbound in all endings. Existence implies the heat death and entropy of all things, and all things between now and then.
Can /v/ just admit that they hate strong smart women?
This exact same retard is in every ER lore thread. He comes up with the most schizophrenic theories imaginable, acts like them being true is just a given fact, and when anyone asks him for evidence or proof of his theories he obstinately gives short curt dismissive responses because he knows he has fuck all to back it up. He never points to any item descriptions or dialogue, he just vaguely says "it's in the game". Every single fucking ER lore thread is plagued by this obnoxious faggot and he makes any meaningful discussion completely impossible.
>>741949254>Ranni's ending."...The battle is over, I see.To every living being,and every living soul.Now cometh the age of the stars.A thousand year voyage under the wisdom of the MoonHere beginneth the chill night that encompasses all,reaching the great beyond.Into fear, doubt, and loneliness...As the path stretcheth into darkness.Well then.Shall we?"Where?My dear consort, eternal.
>>741949309He said he did some family trees and From says they took his family trees and broke the setting to be after the shattering. Both parties have said what they added.
>>741949343>smartEhhBut it's ok, stupid girls are cute.
>>741949170>Mine will be an order not of gold, but the stars and moon of the chill night. I would keep them far from the earth beneath our feet. As it is now, life, and souls, and order are bound tightly together, but I would have them at great remove. And have the certainties of sight, emotion, faith, and touch... All become impossibilities. Which is why I would abandon this soilShe says it right there.
>>741949341No, it's the fact that his soul died but his body didn't caused all that. Nowhere is it implied that the rune of death being unbound would fix that.
>>741949219his mom sat on him
>>741949359Yeah that's Sunrealm Schizo for you haha. Can you believe he thinks he beat Dragonirian in Elden Ring duels? No wonder he ran into Seamless "kitty pool" Co-oP.
>>741949472It is like Dagoth Ur my guy.
>>741949565This post is so schizophrenic I can only assume it's coming from the exact guy I was calling out
>>741949456You could interpret like 20 different things from that. I could say that she's trying to make everyone into senseless zombies, and that would make as much sense as what you said.
>>741949615Its the lolcow that doxed himself in the pvp threads, the images on the right are from his steam page. He tries to turn everyone into a meme because they turned him into a meme.
>>741949580I actually haven't gotten around to playing that game yet. It's on sale right now. Maybe I should stop arguing with retards on here and just play that.
>>741949617Marikas order was in your face, they had a kingdom, civilization, armies, a religion, burials, they conquered people and forcefully converted them. She recognizes the need to host/carry the Elden Ring, but she won't rule as Marika did with all the theatrics. She realized that the fingers weren't guides at all, but insane and that coupled with Marikas wish for security, purity and vengeance is what caused the suffering and decay everyone is in.Did you play the game sir?
>>741949615No see it's an anti-meme. It's like a meme, but only for him to get. That's what makes it funny!
>>741949617There is a 'zombies' ending already so no that wouldn't track. She'd spend the whole game asserting Fia's ethos if she shared it. >>741949798You won't like it because it will remind you of Elden Ring a bunch and you seem to really hate that. A lot of ER is intentionally mirroring the narrative conceits of Morrowind.
>>741949820Marika just wants everyone to continue to struggle unto eternity. Did you play the game? Also nothing of what you said addressed my point.
>>741949897Gideon thinks that but he is proven to be wrong pretty fast. Marika was building a ladder to heaven with the GO only being 1 rung, but then an alien took control of her culture and tried to make it a solid state society so Marika broke the whole thing to stop it.
>>741949787>>741949889Yeah, you're definitely the guy I'm talking about. You're the guy who always brings up someone called "Dragonirian" and pretends that everyone knows who that is.
>>741949787Don't you have Seamless Cope-Op to play (alone)? Lore threads for for sane people.
>>741950018When is he proven wrong? He seems to be right.
>>741949474Oh cool
Why are people arguing that Ranni isn't evil? I like her because she is so transparently evil.
>>741949897https://www.frontlinejp.net/2022/03/14/elden-ring-the-age-of-stars-ending-mistranslations-explained/
>>741950034No one really cares if a lolcow is angry at people making fun of him everywhere he goes. >>741950091Why would I play a mod of a game I already love? >>741950102When you kill the 'god' he claims is unkillable.
>>741950102>"A man cannot kill a god">literally five minutes later the player, a man, kills the Elden Beast, a god.
>>741950091That mod actually has invasions on by default now, and a very active group invade in it.
>>741950151I'm not clicking your pedo virus link bro.>>741950153>When you kill the 'god' he claims is unkillable.He never says she's unkillable.
>>741950153You should be studied in a lab, I think scientists could learn a lot from you.
>>741950256>>741950195
>>741950195I mean his point that Markia wants everyone to struggle unto eternity.
>>741950138Shes faustian, not necessarily evil.
>>741950314Gideon says "Queen Marika has high hopes for us. That we continue to struggle, unto eternity."which we know is wrong because Hewg says that Marika commanded him to forge a weapon that can slay a God and Roderika tells us that Marika wanted the Tarnished to kill her.
>>741950392I don't think Godwyn made any deals with her.
>>741947131Anon, have you ever seen a snake? They have scales everywhere. The in game models of snakes we see also have fairly defined scales. That’s a smooth amorphous mass with nary a scale in sight.
>>741950153>Love>Elden RingWord is on the grape vine you don't even own it, no time when there are Elden ring threads to shitpost, Baldur's Gate III threads to "correct". Tears of the Kingdom threads to obsess over on /vg/.A very busy man
>>741950552You are just desperately trying to get his attention like you do in /vg/, hoping he'll post that image of his playtimes to anger you.People see these back and forths man, you always end up losing just stop while you are ahead.
>>741948072>certainty becomes impossiblethat's all she's saying with that linein our world, nothing in certain, you've got to have faith. in the elden ring world, things are very very certain. ie. you know where you go when you die, you know who's in charge of natural laws like gravity and light and whatever. you don't need to have any faith.
>>741950735>nothing in certainDeath and taxes. Same certainty that Marika's world had.
>>741943671It means she is going to let "nature" do its thing and embrace the mythical winter that would naturally follow the initially bountiful but increasingly mouldering autumn period the world is going through. Everyone else is trying to reinvent the year cycle trying to remove winter\death from it with disastrous consequences. (e.g. scarlet rot being the natural autumnal rotting taken to an extreme with no winter to dial it back)It would be the "correct" action if things weren't so fucked otherwise. It also means everyone except her (the witch of winter) dies so the next mythological spring can come about . This likely eventually includes you, the Tarnished. (but doesn't include runebears who hibernate through the winter lol, that's why they're so strong.)This is also not a year like ours, it is a cycle that lasts thousands or tens of thousands of years (as a unit of time). It's what our year is to an insect that lives a single day.
Okay lore fags, can you explain the Marika is Radagon twist? Like how did it work, physically? Let's assume Marika got meme alien powers and could shapeshift whenever, okay. But how did she BOTH rule the capital as Marika and live together with Rennala as Radagon? Was this even supposed to make sense? Did Miyazaki put any thought into this beyond "le epic twist"?
>>741950946The germans called their reich their thousand year empire it is just a thing.
>>741950639Nope, I want to know what goes on in that head of his, what compels a man to erratically shitpost across /v/ and /vg/ for 16 hours a day, with VPNs.I want to see every game he obsessively hates succeed and every game he obsessively loves fail. But we can't have nice things.
>>741951029Magic and faith are the same thing and fuel everything in the setting. After Marika sent Godfrey away she didn't have a champion to lead her armies and she started losing all her wars so she magicfaithed herself into the champion she needed. > But how did she BOTH rule the capital as Marika and live together with Rennala as Radagon?She doesn't, there is a mysterious gap in her doings when Radagon manifests that stops when Radagon goes away. People didn't think much of it because Marika spent all her time in the tree anyway and her son Morgott ran Lleyndell's day to day from the shadows. When Radagon returns people don't think to be suspicious because he is the god-queen's husband.
>>741951029She didn't need to be in two places at once during a Lirnian wars, it wasn't until Godfrey was exiled Marika needed to return to the pubic eye, so time for Radagon to leave.
>>741950639Sent him back to that other board so hard it killed this thread lol.
>>741943797NTA and I don't understand any of this shit either, but>the stars and moon of the chill night. I would keep them far from the earth beneath our feetSounds like it would mean keeping the star beasts away.
>>741951029It's hecking metaphorical the game never directly states that marika is radagon it only implies that he's an aspect of her like the shadows are linked to the empyrians by destiny or whatever
>>741950946>but doesn't include runebears who hibernate through the winter lol, that's why they're so strongMan fuck this cyclical shit, Red Bear had the right approach to life.
>>741951029They used to be two different people but were merged somehow then split again(when Marika was destroying the ring and Radagon was trying to repair it). If you look at their final models(the statue-like ones) you'll see they're missing half their body.Its all mysterious and we don't have a clear answer. My take is that Radagon/Marika orchestrated the entire thing as a way to escape their eternal godhood.
>>741952214>It's hecking metaphorical the game never directly states that marika is radagonIt does though, there is a whole ending route centering around it.
Ranni’s idea of removing the ring from the equation was, objectively speaking, a good call. My issue is that she wants to fuck off without first fixing the issue her scheming caused. She left the lands between with a terminal case of super cancer courtesy of getting Godwyn ganked and never once considers maybe trying to find a solution before taking her voyage.
>>741952214>the game never directly states that marika is radagonIsn't "Radagon is Marika" EXACTLY what the game states?
>>741946102Reminds me of MatPat the Hazbin Schizo.
>>741952468She leaves the lands between with the guy that killed god and released death back into the world, the planet is going to be fine.
>>741943671Translation for the modern day:>I have a dream. That one day every person in this nation will control their own destiny. A nation of the truly free, dammit. A nation of action, not words, ruled by strength, not committee! Where the law changes to suit the individual, not the other way around. Where power and justice are back where they belong: in the hands of the people! Where every man is free to think - to act - for himself!
>>741952328>>741952543*fondles your balls*You're wrong I'm right.
>>741952783I can respect this type of response over a badly written longtext of obviously incorrect lore when faced with the game's reality.
>>741943671here you go I asked chatgpt, pretty cool how AI exists these days
>>741944752>baseless speculation based off of inferences made a out things not actually in the gamewelcome to souls game "lore"
>>741953952saar thank you doing much the needful very much explain now show ranni bob and vageen
>>741952783Hands to yourself, mister. These balls are spoken for.
>>741953957The windmill village is from elden ring actually. The follow up posts showing character models with the cloak are from elden ring actually.
>>741954017Shadow monarch ending. She would be ruling from the shadows and people wouldn't know what's controlling them. For example Americans know its jews but imagine if they didn't know.
>>741943671>What the fuck does that meanit's Souls lore anon it doesn't mean anything you are supposed to write the story for Miyazaki and make a lore youtube channel that artificially keeps the game relevant
>>741954215You didn't understand what Ranni meant?
>Cute wife>Cutest sword>Only person who loves youSimple as.
>>741954102>let me just ask ChatGPTThat's 100x worse than parroting a faggot youtube essayist and I hope you feel awful
>>741952552You go with her on the journey. The world will definitely not be fine.
>>741954329Chatgpt answered correctly unlike you mongoloids so yes I'll trust AI.
>>741943671i have no idea what the fuck the plot of this was
>>741954054>nondescript squiggles in a random place in my dark souls game CONFIRMS my schizoid game spanning theory of everything>watch this 4 hour youtube video explaining ityeah bro, you got it all figured out. michael zaki would be proud of you.
Ranni is an evil bitch
>>741954414If she's evil why does she love me?
>>741954369How about you just think for yourself
>>741954238I didn't read it
Her ending is literally about helping her to kill the Greater Will. The Elden Ring is like a powerup and you're the wacky guy thats gonna help her.Nightreign takes place under the age of stars and its not very different from what we know, just no glowing tree to remind everyone whats up.
>>741954513How about no mongoloid?
>>741943769Stars n shit is literally just another outer god which is why sorcercy and incantations are in truth the same thing just approached differently and why the tail end of Metyr can cast both
>>741953952Yeah, it got the answers from reddit and is now giving them to you. That's what AI has done for half a decade now.
>>741943671retard
>>741954559>Nightreign takes place under the age of stars and its not very different from what we know, just no glowing tree to remind everyone whats up.Does it actually? Is that confirmed?
>>741954369Not him but I have actually tried asking AI about Elden Ring lore and it clearly has absolutely no fucking clue what it's talking about. It made up Zanzibart-tier concepts like "The Finger Coven" and "The Ruined King's Court"
>>741953952answer 3 basically clars it, it's insane that 90% of the people is indeed more stupid than AI and can't understand Souls lore
>>741954698Nighreign takes place during all the endings, there are characters from mutually exclusive endings all pooled together.
>>741954698Are you actually asking that question in an Elden Ring lore thread? Nothing anybody has said in this thread is based on anything actually confirmed in the game. It's all just fanfiction.
>>741954735maybe but that specific answer is indeed correctwhat does that say about OP?>>741954698No, Nightreign takes place at the same time as the main game and has flashbacks to the past, that poster is retarded
>>741954698He is just asspulling that
>>741954739yes bloody benchard bastard low intellect not get AI superior make smart and beautiful
>>741954821Sorry I haven't played Nightreign.
>>741954571>think for yourself>nolmao
>>741954840>maybe but that specific answer is indeed correctHow do you know the AI didn't just make shit up?
>>741954698Nightreign is a nonsensical cashgrab, there is no lore connection to real Elden Ring
>>741954887>have retarded opinions>get btfo>hey how about akjhdkjadgjawgjawdghawFuck off
>>741954894Because unlike everyone else here I understand Souls lore
>>741943671Isn't this ending mistranslated to say the opposite of what it originally did, or something like that?
>>741954445She never says she does actually
>>741955041no
>>741954974If you already knew the answer then why ask AI?
>>741945035Kenneth seems pretty reasonable
>>741952552You specifically go with her.
>>741954932There are numerous lore connections. NR explains why the night experiements in ER failed and explains where grace comes from conceptually. >>741955041No. Translation fags don't understand english and try to warp it insanely. The devs actually understand english and work with people that understand it.
>>741943671>Volcano Manor (the strong take, might makes right) and Volcano Manor doesn't even get an endingThat's the method they use to attain their endgoal, but their actual endgoal (assuming it doesn't perfectly align with Rykard's personal endgoal, which is to eat the planet) is unknown.
How can marika be radagon How the fuck does that work
>>741955123Nightreign is canonically an alternate universe.
>>741954964>have no opinions
>>741955153Volcano manor wants Rykard to eat the entire world. They are subservient to the strongest, which is Rykard until you kill him. Usurping his ending is impossible unless they have you a little snake to be a part of you.
>>741955104in 1 variant yes. If you don't do all her dialog to have her call you her eternal consort she doesn't ask you to come with her.>>741955156Magic and faith are the same energy fueling all things in the setting. The game shows numen and hornsent both change as a race into something more resembling their character as well. >>741955212Not quite, it is a time knot that gets unraveled like the dragon break in the elder scrolls.
>>741955153Their end goal is to revolt against the Erdtree, Tanith outright tells you that in plain English
>>741955153I think their actual end goal doesn't matter, it's whatever the strongest nigga wants to do. Which is me, and I want to take the Elden Ring for my own, it belongs to me I was the one that worked for it, it's mine, my own, my precious.
>>741955286>Not quite, it is a time knot that gets unraveled like the dragon break in the elder scrolls.Where are you getting that idea from? Because the director of the game himself said it's an alternate universe.
>>741955292I think he's wondering what form of order they'd replace it with after. Ranni is also revolting against the Erdtree (supposedly).
>what if it was night... and it rained bro Nightrein is a joke and irrelevant
>>741955362Nightreign. The ending for every character has them turn into grace and return to the lands between.
>>741955457the /vg/ niggas love it, to the point that they don't talk about regular Elden Ring. It's why I come here to discuss Elden Ring, I prefer generals, in general (heh).
>>741949098He crashes out because it doesn't fix anything FOR HIM. He's still hungry for deathroot because eating all the deathroot in the world, surprise surprise, doesn't do anything to get rid of the feeling of guilt that Marika instilled in him (for SOME reason, she's a bitch)
>>741955586>(for SOME reason, she's a bitch)She wants everyone to struggle unto eternity.
>>741955586He never realizes he is being used as a storage container to later safely take the rune from, he only sees his created function being laid to waste.
>>741955537Again, Nightreign is set in an alternate universe as per the word of the director himself.
>>741945973People don't die in the Lands Between. Both Erdtree Burial and Ghostflame cremation don't appear to require their victims to be truly dead.
>>741955626Struggle against other people, not against their inner demons that SHE is responsible for. Let's face it, what she did to Gurranq/Maliketh is a cunt move.
>>741955626It's past your bed time, grandpa Gideon.
>>741955798I know, but evergaols are also alternate universes nested in the main one. The elden tree inside is an alternate universe, we still experience it in the universe of elden ring.In NR every relic you equip houses another universe, it is still a thing that exists in NR which exists in ER. Dark souls has painted worlds, they ar alternate universes, but they are still intrinsically linked to the host universe they spring from. NR is no different, the events of NR influence what happens in ER.
>>741952554>I could break Radagon in two with my bare hands!
>>741956007Literally not a single thing anywhere in either of those games says any of this btw.
>all knowing >knows nothing
>>741956187He figured out that the fingers were all fucked up without going to the DLC.
>>741956278So did Varre
>>741956154You'll get what he's talking about after you play elden ring and nightreign.Invaders invading you are coming from an alternate universe also. Same with summoning, you go into an alternate universe that affects the base one.
>>741956424So does the player. It is doubly apparent if you look at the 3 fingers spell list.
>>741956606>only evidence for his schizo theories is dismissively saying "play the game">pretends to be someone else and refers to himself in the third person in order to act like his schizo lore theories have community consensusOh it's this faggot again. You're still here? I thought you left the thread when you got blown the fuck out earlier.
>>741956847Playing the game does sort of answer these questions. The scenics in NR overtly tell you there are little universes in there. You meet people from other realities in the game constantly via invaders.
I read through ER lore threads like I'm trying to decipher hieroglyphics. I'm playing the game now and besides some passing recognition of names of characters everything else is total gobbledeegook. It's as though everyone talking about the lore is playing a different fucking game to what I'm playing or as if there's in game lore tomes that everyone is reading from... All I see or hear is a couple cutscenes now and then, a few environmental storytelling pieces and a few whispered lines of vague dialogue from the odd, entirely missable, characters. Yet everyone is going on like Elden Ring is a 2000 page fucking hardback literary masterpiece.
>>741956969It is all basic stuff you'd learn in a philosophy 101 or psyche 101 class. Some of the stuff in the game is gone over in high school if you didn't go to a magnet school that is a soft prison for urbanites.
>>741944927stop projecting your insecurities onto others
>>741956969This is all of the text and dialogue in the game: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/AsteriskAmpersand/Carian-Archive/main/Master.htmlIf you're ever confused by anything just open this document and ctrl + f and search for whatever concept confuses you. Like if you want to know what the crucible is all about just ctrl + f and type "crucible" and read everything in that document that gets highlighted. If even after doing that you're still confused that's probably because you've stumbled across apart of the lore that is intentionally left vague and open to interpretation, like Marika/Radagon. Reading /v/ threads to try and learn the lore is a bad idea because people like >>741957069 like to use ER lore threads as an excuse to be pretentious pseudointellectuals and flex the knowledge they learned in an hour long pop-psychology youtube video that they watched one time and now think they're an academic.
>>741957069You learned about the mechanics alchemy in highschool? I only learned of its existence.
>>741957358That's a cool link, thanks.
>>741957069None of the stuff I'm confused about is psychology related.
>>741943671Irc the english translation is kinda bad, Japanese is much more straight forward and clear.>>741943738Also this.
>>741957358Nothing in ER is confusing to me but thanks. >>741957440I learned about Kant and Jung and the general pistache of permavirgins of the day in highschool yeah. All very template boiler plate things that further education expounded on a bunch because these are the cornerstones of a whole class of social science. I learned about people like Martin Luther in high school, I might just be from another era. >>741957587Others might be so it is a topic for them to explore on their own.
>>741957607The english is straightforward and clear to native english speakers. I knew what a naturalborn was because it is an english expression for bastard.
>>741957694>Nothing in ER is confusing to me but thanks.I wasn't talking to you retard
>>741957694the way you throw out buzzwords and names with no rhyme or reason makes your claim of knowledge highly doubtful
>>741957694Kant and Jung...Nigga I said alchemy.
>>741957845Martin Luther?
>>741956969You're supposed to read item descriptions. Like how tf did Malenia get back to the Haligtree after her blooming in Caelid? There's a single item description that explains this in passing.
Every ending is related to one of the four humors and you learn about those in elementary school
>>741957913she opened her map and teleported to a bonfire
Im not Chinese qrd on these kant and jung guys?
>>741957951>the four humors and you learn about those in elementary schoolYeah in 1752 maybe
>>741944181Elden Ring has fucking Ayys? Are you serious?
>>741958004Where do you think the fallingstar beasts came from?
>>741957951But there are more than four endings.
>>741943671The literacy crisis is real.
>>741957989No, one of the rot knights carried her on her back all the way to the Haligtree kek. It's one of the spirits you can summon, forgot the name.Also, this is a retcon, because originally Millicent was Malenia with amnesia, and you were supposed to guide her to the Haligtree to Miquella (who was meant to be in the base game), they reworked all that.
>>741957694>You learned about alchemy in highschool?>Yeah I learned about Kant and Jung in highschool.What the fuck is this conversation?
>>741957913People genuinely just don't fucking read or pay attention to dialogue and then blame the game for not making sense. There are still to this day people who unironically think that Godrick literally kissed Malenia's feet when the actual quote is>Then he insulted Malenia, lost to her in battle, only to lick her boots rather than die like a man.and anyone who is a native English speaker knows that he didn't literally lick her boots, it's a metaphor for submitting to her and apologizing to her.
>>741957835That is you coping, not really my problem. >>741957845The things I learned about weren't alchemical. It is like ranting at someone talking about Isaac Newton because he is only talking about gravity and not him being fleeced via alchemy in his old infirmed age. We learned about the Critique on Pure Reason and a priori knowledge and the attempted scientific method kant went about it. For Jung it was basic themes about the self, nothing about the transformative process therein was addressed. Why do I know about this stuff that wasn't taught in school? It was interesting enough that I read up on it on my own during my college years when it became more relevant. It really does sound like you guys are just cavemen reacting poorly at educated people being educated. >>741957997Guys that looked into the void and flinched, then wrote diatribes about how they totally didn't' flinch. >>741958004Aliens are falling on the planet in meteors, it is a disaster.
>>741957997Basically the world of Elden Ring is fucked up because they went against Confucian teachings and allowed women to be sit at the table.
>>741946802>she's pulling it directly out of bodiesshe pulls it out of a fabric bag
>>741943671blue mommy sex
>>741958263Holy shit please stop sperging out and read what you're writing before you hit post.
>>741958239>People genuinely just don't fucking read or pay attention to dialogue and then blame the game for not making senseYes, this is why every mainstream game (and Netflix show) explains everything 5 times to make sure people still understand what's happening, because no one has an attention span anymore. When normalfags play Elden Ring they skip 99% of the story and then just watch it on YouTube.
>>741958201He is genuinely mental ill, there are multiple instances in this thread of him completely failing to understand basic questions people ask him, I suspect he's doing it on purpose because he knows answering those questions honestly would poke holes in his schizo lore theories.
>>741958263>It really does sound like you guys are just cavemen reacting poorly at educated people being educated.That is all it is unironically.
>>741958410Stop replying to yourself retard, nobody is fooled by this pathetic shit.
>>741958410Look how mad the guy above you is lol, it really is just dumb people raging at easily sourced information that is literally hundreds of years old.
>>741957607>the english translation is kinda badThe english translation is excellent as it conveys the same meaning in the same poetic tone.
>>741958481>>741958478
>>741958317Ranni is the opposite of mommy.
>>741958403He's either trolling or Indian and this is some izzat thing. Or he's actually schizophrenic, but I'm not getting those vibes from him.
One thing I find interesting is none of the lore video guys talk about the smoke/burning erdtree on the bridges to divine towers What does it mean
>>741958263You seem to have a difficult time following conversations between multiple people. Maybe try addressing the posts individually instead of as lists.
>>741958569I know I'm seeing him rage out now it is exactly like anon said.
>>741958590>indian>izzatYou're just as bad as him
>>741958501>The english translation is excellentI don't like it.The Scadutree is just "Shadow Tree" in Japanese, straight and to the point. "Scadu" is Old English for shadow, pronounced "shah-doo". But everyone (except for LobosJr, he's the real one) just says skadoo or skibidi, which is frankly ridiculous, I hate it so much.
>>741958618Marika had a cope prophecy that the tree would be burned. She amplifies it in a streisand effect to make sure it happens while making it look like she doesn't want it to happen. >>741958734Not really an issue in a series that calls jails gaols and everyone gets it.
>>741958734Scadu the hedgehog
>>741958734I agree that was a questionable choice, especially because it makes this item description sound like the punchline to a joke when it's meant to be completely serious>the Scadutree is the Shadow of the Erdtreelike come the fuck on that's hilarious
>>741958723?
>>741944740This. Simple aesthetics, simple lore and good gameplay. The pinnacle of action adventure video games. I don't know if From got lazy or had a brain bleeding when they started the whole vague lore shit in Dark Souls but the "fans" ate it up so I guess they scored big.
>>741958874lolcow has something about indians, we have to deal with his mental breaks in /vg/ all the time.
>>741943671
>>741958874>shitty forced memesAll I gotta say
>>741943671You've summed-up my feelings about the story/setting of a lot of souls-likes.They're in a weird spot where they don't give you a lot of reasons to ask questions, and what few you do they just answer in the plainest way possible. Dark Souls 1 was able to at least keep some things vague enough to work, but that was kind of undone in DS3 where it's basically spelled out that not lighting the fire is the right decision. Elden Ring of course falls into this trap a whole lot. Bloodborne on the other hand seems to mostly avoid this, and actually keeps you speculating without just answering all of your questions.
>selivus was a bad guyHe was basedWomen should be puppets
>>741959057maidenless hands typed this
>>741958984>left out schizophrenicWho are you trying to fool nigger
>>741959057His failing was needing accomplices. His life falls apart the minute he tells his secret to someone else.
>>741959169ranni already knew about his dolls. her doll body was one of his.
>>741959003>in DS3 where it's basically spelled out that not lighting the fire is the right decisionIt doesn't matter, Gael eats everyone still alive and then you kill him and use the blood of the Dark Soul to paint an entirely new world, thus ending the series forever.
>>741959252Gideon didn't know about any of that stuff until you give him the potion Selivus gives you.
This is basically a very flowery way of saying "i'm done with this shit, i'm fucking off to space where i don't have to deal with petty mortal nonsense"
>>741959148Calling people schizo is older than that cringe hyper forced izzat shit. We all remember when the shills spammed the website with it.
>>741958004Yes you fight one in the DLC
>>741959308and?
Also what the fuck was her plan if the Tarnished didn't give her access to the Elden Ring? She seems like an ultimately selfish character that just wants to leave this gay earth but for some reason had to murder her brother first.
>>741959320>t. retard
>>741959308He says he's up to his old shenanigans and selivus/the albunaric controlling him made Gideon's gf his puppet
>>741959308Dark souls 3 presupposes that people have been fighting over lighting or snuffing the flame in all that time, anon is saying that there was an obvious solution the whole time and that DS1 tells you overtly what that option was. DS3 presupposes that that didn't happen and people just kept fighting a solved equation. People that don't like DS3 are completely justified. >>741959440Irrelevant unrealized unreality that can't happen.
>>741959394The final boss of the base game is also an alien. People really struggle to comprehend anything lmao
>>741959384>posting soijaks is ok because i did it in 2016 instead of 2020meds incel.
>>741959394You fight dozens in the base game.
>>741943671sexo
>>741943671>What the fuck does that mean?She means that she's not going to hole up in her God-castle-capital where the worshipers can see her and speak to her and so on like they can with any other person, instead she's going to take her godhood and fuck off somewhere (metaphysically) far away where her management of "Order" and souls and life isn't going to be something directly connected to daily, mundane life for the people.Basically think of it like IRL religions. God doesn't live in a big castle somewhere on Earth, God is supposed to be in Heaven and inaccessible to living mortals directly. That's how she intends to rule, she (and her Tarnished husband) is going to be among the moon and stars and govern life in the Lands Between, but will not actually be physically present in Leyndell or her manor or Raya Lucaria or anywhere.
>>741959590What does that have to do with repeating forced shilled memes, millhouse san?
>>741959521>Irrelevant unrealized unreality that can't happen.I mean she's already planning on going to space before you agree to be her consort.
>>741959521It's not a "solved equation" in DS1. There's nothing that definitively says that linking the fire would be worse than letting it fade.
>>741959521>Dark souls 3 presupposes that people have been fighting over lighting or snuffing the flame in all that time, anon is saying that there was an obvious solution the whole time and that DS1 tells you overtly what that option wasThe solution was the Dark Lord ritual, which is one of the endings of Dark Souls 3.Dark Souls 1 also shows why that solution is not achievable in Dark Souls, considering the 4 Kings are Kaathe's failed experiments to create a Dark Lord. Sulyvahn is the first successful one and so is the playerYou are retarded>People that don't like DS3 areRetarded just like you, and unable to comprehend Dark Souls and Elden Ring lore (most people to be fair are too stupid to understand Souls lore, especially for 3 and ER, and that includes literally every poster here except me)
>>741959671Where are you getting all that from? People say that but I've seen nothing concrete that proves that's right.
>>741943671it doesnt mean anything, the story in this rollslop sucks and anyone who likes it is unironically stupid. This is JJ Abrams mystery box tier shit, there is unironically no answer. Now don't get me wrong Dark Souls lore was awesome but Elden Ring is a fucking mess.
>>741959768>Where are you getting all that from?From his ass, considering it's completely wrong and retartded and doesn't understand the themes of Elden Ring
>>741959717It cucks the player
>>741959768Not him but I came to same conclusion based on Ranni's dialogue.
>>741959882You need to stop watching porn.
>>741943671the stars guide the fate of the lands between but the gods interfere with that. ranni decides to do away with gods and leave the world to its fate, for better or worse.
>>741959917Nigga those lines are literally in the OP post. Those are the lines that I'm talking about.
>>741959882What does this even mean
>>741959917Literally from the text quoted in the OP.
>>741959717It is a logical conceit that goes along with the ending just like Ranni's ending in ER. DS is pretty definitive in telling you the gods are conning everyone into lighting the flame to extend their own rule at th expense of everyone else. Just like ranni's ending you are left in an uncertain future snuffing the flame out, but a well adjusted person should inherently see that as preferrable to the suffering you are in rn. Both games leverage you associating the thing with a good or bad act on your own and then inverting it. Keeping a first flame lit sounds good to man, a tree that gives golden boons sounds good to man. Both are evil and making your life measurably worse. DS3 (and 2) go full bore into no this cycle keeps going even though we made a very strong case for 1 outcome in the first game. Elden ring falls into a similar trap with showing the cycle of life and death outside the ring game and not giving 2 shits if you actually see it. All endings in ER are colored by if you saw the bigger cycle or not. DS out and out ignores if you saw the big cycle and said the little ones keep going until the heat death of the universe then the principle players leave. It is strangely blackpilled in a way ER never is, probably the result of 3 games in the same setting that didn't need it.
>>741958814Completely, hilariously wrong>>741960062Also completely wrong
Rabbi ending is the ultimate "fuck you got mine" women momentLook what she did to iji and blaiddHer retainers were killed and driven away, is that what happens to the retainers of new monarchs? Bitch took the elden ring to the moon and the lands between will wither away.
>>741959674The part where you're crying about the forced memes that personally offend you while comfortably using forced memes like schizo and shill.
>>741954245rope burns and no womb though
>>741960178In what way? Marika didn't make the divine towers, a culture she hated but dominated did. Those people hated her so much they made false runes to try and destroy reality. They'd make imagery of trees burning in their nihilism.
>>741960218And I’m going to pound that pussy to the moon
>>741958172Reading is for gays anyway
>>741960159Yeah and Kaathe is conning you into letting the flame fade. He did the same thing to Oolacile and it didn't exactly turn out well for them, did it? Both the serpents lie to you.
>>741943671>What the fuck does that mean?Out of sight out of mind.Ranni's plan is no god enforcing order, only men making their own.Other dialogue rather implies that her motivation is spite and laziness rather than true conviction, tb h.And while I agree with you that From's writing is always thin and unsatisfying and the obscurity is just a way to hide that fact, being unable to parse pretty straightforward shit is not something to brag about anon.
>>741960218Iji and blaidd were simp cucks
>>741960286Shill and schizo aren't forced at all though. Did you notice how all the social credit memes became izzat memes after they forced it? Hmm...
>>741943671>it doesn't mean anythingthou holdeth such opinion, no doubt... hehehe... *dies*
>>741943994>where magical shit is just a mythWhere divine order is a myth.I doubt it would make an actual difference in regard to magic in general, after all the golden order was unable to cut off other magic sources, it had to cut down their practitioners directly.
>>741960468Oolacile falls to the abyss right? Just not be jaded and a loser I guess. The solution to all the naysayers is the indominable human spirit, unironically. Stop cowing in the dark like a pusy.
>>741959739I'm ready to admit I'm most likely too retarded to understand the lore, but I still love these games because they look really cool and fighting monsters as a knight is dope. That's all I need
>>741960551schizo is highly forced because it quickly became "I don't understand what you are talking about and that makes me angery." As a result actual schizos fly under the radar as a guy you just don't like gets browbeaten for talking.
>>741960625We don't really get an answer for what the abyss actually is. It seems to be simply a large concentration of humanity in one place.
>>741944443The author died in like 1900, nobody gives a shit what some liberal arts grad meant to say when they shat out one interesting thing in their years of writing, keep up retard.
>>741960794But you know what an abyss is yourself right? You can use that to inform you on what an abyss in DS is. It is just despondancy given form.If you've seen the neverending story (a children's movie) you should be able to understand these concepts intrinsically. Not trying to be rude but you fags talk like you were born yesterday and that is a meme.
>>741960794>Abyss consumes all>Dark age ensues>Nothing to consume during dark age so the monsters die out>world returns to primordial state without disparity >something new can take it's placeez
>>741960764That doesn't mean it's forced just an overused insult like tranny
>>741960159There's zero indication of any ending being "bad" or "good" in any game.You can roleplay as Gwyn faithful and link the Fire just fine and the first Dark Souls does not imply in any way that you did the wrong thing.>DS3 (and 2) go full bore into no this cycle keeps going even though we made a very strong case for 1 outcome in the first game.Whatever "outcome" was chosen in the first game is irrelevant because the endings have no meaningful consequences. Dark Souls 3 doesn't reiterate on that because you have 2 meaningful choices, either let the Fire Fade in many ways, each of those saying something about the character you are playing, or fullfilling Velka's prophecy of the Dark Lord by imbibing the curse and usurping the Fire, exactly the reason Darkwraiths were hoarding humanity and tuning candidates into giant tree men in the first game.You failed to even understand what happens in each ending>lden ring falls into a similar trap with showing the cycle of life and death outside the ring game and not giving 2 shits if you actually see it. All endings in ER are colored by if you saw the bigger cycle or not. Every ending of Elden Ring full explain its consequences directly and gives plenty of ways to see it. Spiritstones, omen wraiths accumulating through horns, Erdtree burial,..>keep going until the heat death of the universe then the principle players leave.Schizophrenic nonsense, there's no implication that the Fire fading would mean any end of the world itself in Dark Souls, in fact Ringed City implies the exact opposite>>741960342The burning of Sacred Trees is a tradition that predates Marika of several eras and is depicted because that's how. The Erdtree doesn't burn for shits and jiggles, it's a giant bonfire that turns life power accumulated by the deaths of the Shattering into runic power, the same process that allows a kindling maiden to burn runes into power. Marika's objective was exactly for the Erdtree's to burn
>>741960959Overuse is the force, especially when it no longeer means what it means. >>741960970>There's zero indication of any ending being "bad" or "good" in any game.Yes there is you tabula rasa idiot.
>>741960551>>741960959You're genuinely retarded mate.
>>741960970>Marika's objective was exactly for the Erdtree's to burn>Marika had a cope prophecy that the tree would be burned. She amplifies it in a streisand effect to make sure it happens while making it look like she doesn't want it to happen.Then how was anon hilariously wrong?
>>741960794>concentration of humanity in one placesounds like London
>>741944372It seews abundantly clear that this is the case. It's a parallel to the current, real world. Natural laws and order and something like serendipity exist but only in a roundabout way and mostly thanks to selective perceptions at various scales. If you try to cast Charm you will fail but if you try to use the Law of Attraction, your brain and the circumstances it filters will yield the same effect in a roundabout, subtle way. Likewise you can't reason your way to spontaneous flight, but you can reason your way to constructing an airplane. That sort of change seems to be what she's alluding to, going only by the text itself.
>>741960897You're making the assumption that the abyss in this universe operates the same way as it does in other fictional universes, when there is no guarantee of this assumption. Especially when we already know that the metaphysical laws of the world of Dark Souls don't work like they do in most other fantasy worlds. It's not that I fail to understand what you're trying to say, I just don't agree with your conclusion. That's one thing a lot of people in lore threads do, they assume that the only feasible way anyone could possibly disagree with them is because they simply don't understand what they're trying to say. Like, no nigga, I get exactly what you're trying to say. I just think you're wrong.
>>741960959>izzat is forced because it used one(1) template meme>tranny isn't because uhhhhdoes your handler know you're using the internet without permission
>>741961207>>741961058Izzat is forced because one day out of nowhere it was spammed across this website and I assume others while everyone was confused what was happening And even now, it's not used at 1% of the rate it was posted that day
>>741961174>You're making the assumption that the abyss in this universe operates the same way as it does in other fictional universesThey named it the Abyss. >>741961115Sort of but not really. I ended my post asking what an apple was because under Will and Representation an apple is more than an apple. What you see as an apple is merely a representation of what an apple is and you can never know the thing in itself because all of your experience is sourced from 5 or 6 senses when the totality of an apple is prescribed by the Supreme Will that isn't limited by human senses.
>>741943671>fuck the planet we out you coming?>I will abandon you too>not really I was just drunk ignore that >_>worst girlmakes me miss BB doll
>>741961389Oh, I thought I made it abundantly clear that I don't give a shit about your philosophical smuggling when I said "going by the text itself." You read something and projected it onto the text, I don't care about the metaphyiscal import of Ranni's order which remains entirely unclear.
>>741961389>They named it the Abyss.And? They also named humanity humanity but it's clearly not the same thing as real world humanity.
>Miquella has to sacrifice all this shit to be a god >basically did nothing wrong>you have to kill him>Ranni starts the whole drama with murder>hehe be my wife and join mewoow
>>741961548>You read something and projected it onto the textNo, that is actually what that book is about. ER is about these topics my dude, why do you think Marika's elden ring has less elements to it than the dragon elden ring? Marika removed a bunch of the GW's representations and minimized existence. >>741961630Words have meaning. I know it is very confusing.
>>741961735>Words have meaning. I know it is very confusing.It's a fantasy universe. Words can have different meanings in a fantasy universe than they do in real life. Especially when those words are being used as proper nouns referring to mystical concepts that don't exist in real life.
>>741961027No there's none. Again you fail to understand the narrativeany and all endings in game are valid choices and not bad at allLinking the Fire in either Dark Souls or Dark Souls 3 has in fact zero consequence whatsoever because it simply will let the Fire fade anyway. The ending you pick is about what character you are playing as.In Dark Souls 3 you can choose to claim the fading Fire with force, link yourself to the First Flame once again and fade with it, or simply let it fade.None of those choices "matter" in any kind of way, they just speak of your character beliefs>>741961093Because it fundamentally misunderstands Fire, Kindling Runes and the Erdtree. Marika didn't foresee any prophecy, Queen Goddesses burn Sacred Trees to draw power from Deaths, this is why the Crossed Tree is depicted with flames, the same iconography the hornsent ruipped off with their "horned candlestick" that looks like a pine tree burning. The Black Knights, that served in the previous eras before joining the Erdtree and have insignia of the Scadutree back when it was not hexed and was called the "Crossed Tree" and was straight with two intervowen finger-like tree trunks, also show the same symbols.The truth is that Queen Goddesses have raised to power through sacrifices and burning runes, and Marika simply planned the Shattering for that, the same but inverse way Miquella burns Shadow to raise to power. This is the truth of the world, the cardinal sin which is burning life for power
Idk what any of it meant but I went with my nigga the noble gold mask cause based on vibes I felt I could trust him more than the blue slut. By the way the blue slut's ending is the most popular only cause it was a foid pushing it and most people are too low iq to do anything other than think with their dick. If goldmask was a sexy foid and ranni was an ugly old man than suddenly the popularity of the two would have been flipped.
>>741961735She also deems a bunch of the representations to 'outer order.'Good job on linking it back to elden ring.
>>741961685Miquella was insane and thought stripping himself of what he thought corrupted Marika would result in something positive.
>>741961337Do you seriously believe your own mental illness or are you trying to pretend that you're pretending to be retarded. How was it a forced meme if it was only used for one day and then instantly dropped by the people who were allegedly trying to force it?
>>741961735ER is more inspired by alchemical tradition than this book the creators have never mentioned. If parallels exist, it's because representational theories of mind have been implicit in wider western philosophy for centuries. You're extrapolating loose parallels of a niche academic writing into a full-fledged formal explanans, to be totally frank with you, it's peak Dunning-Krueger. You don't even seem to understand that the magic of the universe in this framing would be a result of direct access to the object's nature caused by the relational distance between the Ring, order, and people.
>>741961982I've explained it very clearly in plain English. Go be an easily manipulated retard elsewhere. And no, im not saying you need to like Indians. Just go away.
>>741961908I picked his ending because the hornsent deserve their revenge. >>741961986I know, I'm not really addressing that because it triggers the same guy and he is already in a trigger fest. Nightreign is about alchemical grace, but we don't need to get into it it is only going to cause issues with our trogs.
>>741962089Well we can at least agree that the Hornsent deserve their revenge. Total foid death.
>>741961685They're both absolute shitbirds. One wants to put everyone in a gilded cage and calls his tyranny compassion, the other hatched a plot that gave the world cancer because she wanted autonomy and is planning to just leave without fixing her mess. As far as I'm concerned the entire divine family should be put to the sword. Let my Tarnished fix things proper. I've even got the beginnings of a royal court all set up and waiting between Nepheli, Kenneth, Boggart, and Rya (assuming she doesn't die on some godless backroad). First order of business would be claiming Irina as my bride, after that we're fixing shit.
>>741962089>I picked his ending because the hornsent deserve their revenge.They get 2 endings for that!
>>741962421>>741962557Hornsent eat poop and eat bugs and cut people up and put em in jars
>>741962078The only thing you've done is make it abundantly clear that you're mentally retarded and operating on insane levels of mental gymnastics. You have no issues with using actual forced meme buzzwords that were spammed for days on end like cringe, schizo, shill and tranny but because you have a personal gripe with insults to indians even a fad term like izzat can make you disregard all logic and make you selectively butthurt.
>>741961908Honestly? A noble blue wizard prince that you serve in a platonic royalist way?I might still go with it. It's all about character execution.Which is why Goldmask works too I think. He's really cool and you feel you're serving some mysterious golden religious asthetic.
>>741962804The golden order represents Israel and the hornsent represent Palestine
>>741962928>takes 10 minutes to respond through a translator Okay dude, you haven't presented a single argument
>>741962804They are the worst people possible. I just think it is funny that the dlc recontextualized 2 of the endings to be them winning over Marika in the end while being the worst people possible.
>>741963113Try not to drown in your drool you illiterate moron.
>>741950946>tfw the game is a "winter is coming" shitpost by GRR MartinGRR, bratty author... Bad review correction is needed.
>>741962953Hypothetically if goldmask survived and became elden lord would he have executed ranni?
>>741963285Ironic.
>>741963362He'd force her to play the role he thinks the GW wants for her which would really be his role for her.
>>741943671It means the localization team sucks.
>>741963362I honestly have no idea. That dude is an enigma. He doesn't seem violent but she might be a loose end. A perfect order would restrain her which makes her dangerous. But then maybe she can "escape" at that point without hurting the order?
>>741963510Lots of esl got filtered by elden ring.
>>741963393Got any more generic template replies you'd like to use to pad the thread so you can save your bruised ego?
>>741963471sex slave then
>>741963601you must be mad everyone calls out your forced meme, kek
>>741963673Divine beast twins NEED to be sired for a productive and groovy future.
>>741963362I don't think anyone would die in his model. Ever. It would be a mathematically perfect, balanced existence where nothing dies and nothing lives.
>>741963827Lots of people would die in his model, like a LOT. He is a HR manager that is saying he will downsize the company to get rid of all the fat.
Stormveil before it's destruction must have been twice Leyindells size
>>741946383No one knows. The mass is intentionally too vague for anyone to identify.
>>741963827he represents instrumentality which Marika already dabbled in and it resulted in death. Everyone becomes a cog within the GO machine, and the GO machine can be made to work more efficiently without some of those cogs.
>>741946383It's the corpse of godwyn
>>741963471How is the greater will connected with the elden beast? Cause I feel like he wouldn't be happy with the player for killing his pet dog.
>>741964483The Greater Will ironically doesn't actually want anything. It seems to be an unconscious entity like Azathoth that doesn't have any sort of motivations or goals, it sort of just randomly shits out creatures and then those creatures go on to enact their will on the world and get worshipped as gods.
>>741944114Fia tells you plainly in her quest line and Rogier tells you while you are hunting the death brand/getting in with Ranni that there are those who live in death that are innocent of any evil on their own. I'd wager it's more that the death rune ending makes the world into something like what was happening in the beginning of the dark souls story minus the flame.
>retards still don't know Marika is usurping grace from the body of the legitimate goddess>you can even see the stitches of the funenrary shroud in the trailer>Fucking enir-ilim shows the same shroudI swear to God Elden Ring is literally too smart for 99% of the global population in this idiocracy timeline
>>741944114it's nothing more than a civil rights movement for skeletons
>>741964757Gamers just aren't great at reading, or very intelligent as a group
>>741964757People have been taught by other video games that background elements, environmental details, statues, architecture, etc. are all just superficial set dressing that you're not actually meant to pay attention to.
What exactly is the Lands Between? And are the gods there related to the other lands? Shit's so small. There can be more than a couple of thousand people living there
>>741965215The lands between (life and death)
>>741944443You're assuming what sources and influences were used in the making of the game, but if you look inside you're going to find a great deal of high brow material and that is why the lore tubers are able to come up with things because the material elden ring draws from already has entire schools of thought that have debated on proper interpretation. Nobody sat down and came up with the themes and symbols on the spot in 2020. How does it make you feel that Miyazaki assumes a certain level of education and literacy in the audience? Devs used to do that, back when they were nerds.
>>741965215It's like the Israel of the Elden Ring universe. People have been fighting over it for thousands of years for religious reasons and people make pilgrimages there from all over the world.
>>741965215locations in game aren't the same size they would be in lore.
>>741965215Things betwix
>>741965361Cope, the story sucks and you’re imagining what isn’t there
>>741958734If you can't engage with that sort of language on its own terms that's perfectly fine.As your example highlights, many can't.
>>741959768Right here >>741943671
