>freedom motif mocked in an optional fight in castle town>one of Ralsei’s signature lore expositions gets interrupted and mocked in a comical way>final shadow crystal bearer is literally just a gagAre you guys ready for the ending of Deltarune to be one big gag to humiliate the lore enjoyers/theory crafters?
>lets humiliate and degrade my most die-hard fansYes I am read for Toby to go full retard.
>>741964836You’d be surprised the lengths people will go just to spite others. And ol’ tobias has proven himself to be VERY spiteful
>>741965347But why? What’s even the point of being spiteful towards people that speculate things? Is he mad that people have predicted where he will take the plot which has ruined his plans for the ending? I don’t get it
>>741964746>mentally ill furry tranny zoomer game
>>741964746>Are you guys ready for the ending of Deltarune to be one big gag to humiliate the lore enjoyers/theory crafters?I really enjoy the game (and its predecessor) but fucking hate the 'community'. Tricky Toby may be more based than I imagined - I want nothing more than for shippers to be shut down and theory crafters to be utterly, VIOLENTLY btfo
>>741964746Which fight in Castle Town had the freedom motif? The trash time trio? Also I thought I heard the motif in MewMew's fight
>>741966550It’s just trash writing. Like the game starts with Gaster saying a bunch of ominous shit to you but the ending will probably be Gaster getting a tomato thrown at him from Lancer and then explosion.gif
>>741965696>What’s even the point of being spiteful towards people that speculate things?Because in most cases that speculation becomes too much, where fans look into and overanalyze every minute detail where deeper meaning may not be present. Naturally people will make their guesses, but for a creator it can be a bit annoying when you can’t say or do anything without people delving into 3 hours video essays guessing on what something could mean when in reality it was just something done without meaning. So what better way to rub it in than to intentionally set up mysteries for people to overanalyze only to dash those expectations and call anyone who cared a retard? It’s the best kind of spit in the face you can do
>>741964746At this point he's spelling it out that the main game is pure performance, Weird Route is where the ending from his dream really exists.
>>741966826The only time he did that was Mike. The other times I don’t think he originally planned for it to be a joke, but he played it off as such
>>741966826Wouldn't the best thing to do be to just ignore such people
>>741964746I think that's just showing where Toby's priorities are.Like "nah, the UI stuff isn't gonna be some big reveal or anything, it's been done."He has so much more to work with, he doesn't have to treat everything with so much gravitas, or rather, according to the announcement for chapter 5, this is his LAST chance to not treat everything with so much gravitas.This is him getting his jokes out while he still can.
>>741964746it has never officially been called the "freedom motif" people just decided to start saying that after chapter 2 and then they started using it in their theories like it's actually supposed to be symbolic of freedom, can't blame toby for making fun of that
>>741964746don't forget constantly making fun of ralsei's hat
>>741964746>>final shadow crystal bearer is literally just a gagIt's not, all the meaning is in the lyrics. If spamton was about feeling trapped on strings and wanting to escape, Mew mew is the frustration of not being able to express oneself and having your autonomy robbedhttps://youtu.be/U1vbwgIk5_8?list=RDU1vbwgIk5_8
>>741966826Then why release the game in parts with intentional misdirects, vagueness and mystery? Everyone was fooled by Lost, and its only legacy now is that no one fucking likes and it was a huge waste of time.
>>741965347You can tell how pissed he still is about people preferring black ralsei
>>741970912All that bitching and everyone still knows Blacksei is superior, his crying only reinforces it further.
>>741966981>The only time he did that was MikeWhich means he isn’t above it, which means it can happen again>>741968491Hard to if they make up a significant part of your fanbase. Besides, no one likes to be disrespected, thus making it the perfect way to cull/filter them from your fanbase
>>741966826He has no one to blame but himself
>>741971240>makes Gaster an integral part of the story>adds foreshadowing about THE ANGEL, THE VESSEL>adds the FRIEND face throughout the game and multiple times in the promotional material>WOW WHY DID YOU THINK I WAS IMPLYING ANYTHING HERE??? FUCK YOU I DONT WANT YOU IN MY FANBASE Lol
>explicitly arrange args>make fun of fans for engaging with themmasterful gambit
>>741964746I'd unironically gain a tremendous amount of respect for Toby if it turned out Deltarune was just a massive exercise in trolling just so he could shit in the mouths of his awful fans.
>>741971918Shit in the mouths of the trannies and faggots that obsess over fan art and shipping, why shit in the lore enthusiasts?
>>741964746Deserved. This and undertale always were just the game version of those "dark" internet cartoons with the same faggy post-tumblr adult children audience that thinks these dogshit low-quality characters are deep and complex, because they have some vague trauma or some retarded headcanon they project onto them.
Chapter so bad it dropped over 1% in positive Steam reviews
>>741973037wow, 1 whole percent…
>>741973037did you not think about how this would sound when you posted it?
>>741964746i wasnt even aware of the roots theory so watching this video in 2026 after chapter 5 came out is pretty funny, pretty much wrong about everythingno one could have seen that toby would be a retard and turn the flower shop into a japan level though
>>741973037IT'S FUCKING OVER!!!!!
>>741973702>another theoryfaggot is wrongcolor me surprised
>>741964746im so fucking tired of seeing everyone posting about le freedom motif fucking everywhere anyways
>>741965696This is the recoil from marketing to autists. On the one hand, you get a bunch of eternal loyal customers because you became their special interest. On the other hand, you are the special interest of a thousand autists.At a certain point, the elegance of a captive consumer base frays, and you start bullying dweebs and punching needs again. But it's too late, they will merely become angry, while still holding you as their special interest.
Kris is the blue rose btw, and its quite obvious why Toby did this, Kris is obviously a MAN but he wears women's clothes because he's a fag crossdresser, but still a man.
>>741964746>Are you guys ready for the ending of Deltarune to be one big gag to humiliate the lore enjoyers/theory crafters?Sounds based.Anyone who takes Scrimblo's Bimblo Adventure seriously need to be shot into the sun.
>>741970912why is toby being racist?
>>741974098>Kris and Noelle share a cage>Fusion Knight is realFUCK
>>741965696is it better to build an episodic game like this with plans you made from the start, even if people predict what will happen through theories and schizo analysis? or is it better to shift gears midway and offer something different for the sake of it?
>>741966826Toby...what happened to you bro? youve changed since i last entered your thought realm on the astral plane
>>741974010boohttps://youtu.be/U1vbwgIk5_8?list=RDU1vbwgIk5_8&t=118
>>741973037When you're autistic but also retarded
>>741975157if Deltarune was just a boss rush with banger music it would genuinely be a 10/10
>Kris was the first one to reach out to Susie when everyone else was scared of her.>Kris was the one who recruited every single monster while Susie was busy beating the shit out of them.>Kris was the one who taught Susie to ACT instead of ATTACK.>Kris was the one who stood up for Susie against the King in Chapter 1.>Kris was the one who broke Susie out of prison.>Kris is the one sealing the Dark Fountains that threaten the town.>Kris was the one who took Susie in when she was basically living on the streets like a bum.>Kris was the one who treated her like a real friend by lending her Asriel's clothes.>Kris was the one who encouraged her to pursue healing.>Kris was the one who showed her how to create a Dark Fountain.>Kris was the one who ALWAYS went along with Susie's dumbass plans.>Kris was the one who gave her an actual group of friends.>Kris was the one who helped Noelle and Susie grow closer.AND HOW DOES SUSIE REPAY HIM?BY STEALING HIS CHILDHOOD FRIEND.BY STEALING THE CASTLE TOWN HE BUILT.Noelle's room ISN'T EVEN CONNECTED to Kris's anymore.Kris got COMPLETELY ROBBED the moment Susie finally got the popularity she'd always wanted.Never in my life did I think I'd see something like this in a video game. Susie is hypocrisy and self-centeredness incarnate. Kris did EVERYTHING for that bitch.
>>741975612>*You were used up.
>>741975612>Noelle's room ISN'T EVEN CONNECTED to Kris's anymore.? when was it connected
>>741975612It's all to progress the prophecy. Susie is just a pawn in Kris's game.
>>741975807I mixed my thoughts, the room they seemingly built is solely connected to Susie's Room.
>>741972945undertale is cool because it breaks the 4th wall in interesting ways. but you're right about everything else
>>741970268This plus the massive WAIT between chapters made the overanalysing inevitable, if the whole thing came out at once it would be extremely obvious which things were important hints and clues and which things were just in-the-moment details. Without the next part(s) there's no way to know definitively what random details are hints so absolutely everything ends up getting investigated and the massive WAIT means those video essay makers have plenty of time to make videos about it all before the next chapter arrives.
>>741973550>>74197363599% favorable means 1 in 100 people dislike it.98% favorable means 1 in 50 people don't like it.a 1% drop can indicate a doubling of the amount of dislike for a game
>>741975340Thats how trannies feel desu
>>741975612>Never in my life did I think I'd see something like this in a video gamePeople keep saying its to parallel Bahamut Lagoon but its actually a retread of Live-A-Live chapter 7
My schizo theory is that Susie was originally the girl and Noelle the second hero, but to prevent the prophecy from happening Kris (and Ralsei) sort of forced Susie into the second hero role insteadThis is why the both of them are still hiding shit from Susie, talking while we have our eyes closed and she's away. They need her to fully believe she's one of the heroes.This is also why Kris is so mad at (you) in the weird route, because you are very much forcing the prophecy back into place. Whatever the fuck you did that contaminated Noelle, it's the "hope" crossed on her heart of the prophecy
>>741964746Chapter 5 was good. But Mew Mew was a terrible idea for a shadow crystal boss. What the fuck Toby? At least her music is a banger. Toby should work with Camellia more often.
Please Toby don't do this I wanna ruin the world with my doe wife don't turn her into a pizza
what was up with the pen that Kris gave to Seth?
>>741974296Wow anon, you're so cool and edgy and detached
>>741976854>noelle drew a grave with the name Kris on itoh.
Any FRIEND appearance this chapter?
>>741974098when does he wears women's clothes?
Marche really was right about everything.
>>741977012yeah
>>741976909Anon...that was a feather from Berdly
>>741977051When Kris acts in chapter 2 he can wear a nurse outfit. In chapter 5 he can crossdress as Aqua.
>>741977103wher
>>741977156oh
>>741972056buddy, you're a lore enthusiast over a tranny faggot obsessed game and you just admit that? Is that not as bad when the game looks like it was made by a furry tranny faggot.
>>741964746I dislike it when games are made on this kind of timeline, because social media aware creators like Toby Fox are way too reactionary in how they develop their writing.I don't think it's a good impulse to blatantly adjust to what the community thinks release by release because it makes content inherently disjointed and dated. I shouldn't need to have an awareness of fan theories and how they're being deliberately targeted for subversion in order to understand why the plot is shaping the way it is.
>Play the piano Kris
>>741977156Berdly wasnt in the dark world
>>741974098Hmm, so if the eggs are "evidence" and you use evidence to reconcile Blue and Yellow, maybe getting all the eggs is necessary to complete the Kriselle route, or at least so that they don't end as enemies.
>>741975612It's because Susie is kind of oblivious.She didn't notice Noelle practically humping her leg the last several days, so of course she isn't gonna realize Kris likes her until he just outright says something.Which he will.Which will cause drama, sweet sweet drama.
>>741977178To the right when you reach the top of the first climbing zone, you can ACT on them and it attacks you. Also their color changed to being entirely red.
im ready for kris getting his twink ass plowed
>>741977479>hisYou meant to say their.
>>741977290So? Seth's description of it makes it clear it's from him, Kris got it before making the dark world.
>>741976384Yes at least Bahamut lets you get it on with the old man, this game wont even let you have Berdly.
>>741975612SLAY THE DRAGON
>>741974484Experience tell me is better to stick to your guns. Even if people guess correctly.
>>741964746I hope he makes fun of the people who think Susie is being mind controlled thus proving that he's just ass at writing romance
>>741976813>At least her music is a banger.Its tranime slop nigga
>>741964746I feel like deltarune has serious tone issues, maybe it's intentional but every time any of the main characters do silly and wacky things it just weirds me out, like even in just the normal route everything feels so fake...
>>741977479>his>posts an image where he has a vagina You do know there's a balls version right?
>>741977631Sometimes i really miss how in Undertale it was just (You) most of the time. The party members can be a blessing and a curse
Pink should have switched spots with another shadow boss, who should it be?
Is Kris meant to feel like if you had the POV of the edgier sidekick who has to watch the actual MC be more successful than you?
How the fuck did Kris even have the time to talk with Flowery and Seth before we enter the dark world, between when he creates the dark fountain and when he's back out with Susie there's like 5 god damn secondsDid he straight up talk with inanimate flowers beforehand? It's been made very clear that the flowers are too delicate to be moved to another dark fountain.
>>741977863Spamton, duh. That way we can have a kino final hidden boss.
>>741977863I'm afraid i don't understand exactly what you are trying to say
>>741977863Do you mean she literally took the spot of someone else? It's the robot/plush who's the shadow boss, not her
>>741977926Instead of Pink being the final shadow boss it's switched with another so you would encounter Pink "earlier."
The term "schizoboss" sure aged like milk, huh.
>>741977902He was out all night after ch4. I think that's when he did it.
you cannot defy fate as fate is what keeps the story goingto defy it you must ascend past even the plot itself
>>741974098when will toby let me kill this nigga
Do you think there will be a schizo boss in 7b since weird route skipped Mew?
>>741978142She knows about chapter 7b, the shitzo is hidden in the lirics
>>741974484odds are nothing you can come up with wont be predicted by at least one guy and if you try to change your plans to surprise everybody you end up with something that doesnt follow logically.
>>741964746It was always gonna be an "escapism BAD" story taking place inside of a fictional program, so you'd better prepare your ass for Toby being as spiteful as possible.
>>741978187Never, he's your friend
>>741978108>The sfx in weird route is called ominous_hell when you drown>Jevil say this What the fuck
>>741965347>>741965696>>741964746I can’t believe I lived to see Homestuck happen a second time lol
>sans' store and house pop up suddenly, with susie having no memory of what buildings were there before>sans bones toriel and saves her from the knight>sans gives kris the bread >saves kris and noelle from drowning>but also allows them to noclip into the lake>but also leaves crumbs so their trail can be followedso it's like undertale and sans is secretly the most important character in the entire game again?
>>741974098According to Wikipedia, a blue rose symbolizes mystery, attaining the impossible, and love at first sight.I will now proceed to use this as fuel for the next few months/year of Krusie cope, until Toby dashes my hopes with even more poorly written lesbianism
surely ch6 will have a secret boss even though we ran out of shadow shards
That knight CD theory isn't half bad.Been wondering for a while if he was a Darkner with Lightner bullshit attached and that was why he could have determination.
>>741978332>escapism is bad>btw im pretending to be Japanese >btw trans women are real women and it isn’t an escapist fantasy for autistic men Lol
Someone mentioned this is gonna turn into some David Lynch shit where the Noelle we see isn't the actual Noelle but instead just the idealistic version of her, the one in the lake is her real version.
>>741978152that's impossible or if it isn't, stupid. Kris left the soul in the cage in 4 and left. He couldn't have opened and closed the fountain without the soul.
>>741978081Ah i see. The easy answer is Spamton because he's the best one but i'm not sure since he's very important for kickstarting the weird route
>>741978294well just pick the options like 0.1% of people actually predicted yet would make sense in some way
>>741978441He's not important at all in Undertale main story wise honestly outside of fucking around in the True Lab with Alphys.He just got lore
>>741978484>knight CD theory Qrd?
>>741978441Maybe that one theory is true and this Sans is the same as Undertale's Sans.
>>741964746That's not going to happen, lol, this is specifically a breather chapter.It's not a very good one because the idiot team decided to introduce a bunch of new characters instead of letting their existing ones bounce off each other, but it is what it is.
Why are creators so spiteful, petty and retarded? I feel like every other motherfucking series nowadays ends with writers going>FUCK THE FANS I'M RUINING EVERYTHING ON PURPOSE JUST TO SPITE THEM
>>741978338i HAD a real friend and now... he's gone...
>>741966826Why bother, and waste energy in the first place setting up a malicious trap, that will no doubt ensure far more people innocent of your perceived crime than those who are.It's literally falling completely and totally for the "I have suffered so other must aswell" shit, completely childish shit that ruins everything, let your story be your story that's all the spite that's needed to fu k with theory fags, so many other creators just shrug that shit off, i would have thought toby to be better than falling for the same pit falls as Andrew hussie...
>>741978509Toby I kneel.
>>741978618>every time the Knight changes shape he turns back into sphere mode first>every time he's not in human form he reverts to the sphere mode>"knight" form and "bird" form are transformations and the sphere is the base mode>whenever the Knight is hurt he starts spazzing out into sound waves/static>something something sound waves .wav files sound files, sound below the sea and maybe Dess recording her songs on CDs and the Knight is a CD disk
>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction.>BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail.>Look forward to chapter 6 in 2029!
i want porn of this character in such a manner that i know itll be impossible to capture the essence of in a single image and can unfortunately only be satiated via smut
>all those cope theoriesGod, can't wait for Toby to make another Mike moment and give all of your shitty theories a huge middle finger just for the LULZ
so what will happen to Noelle in next chapter in aborted 4th chapter route? wasn't the point of the couch scene to make her realize that it wasn't a dream?
>>741978514David Lynch is actually a good writer and could pull such trickery off. He was even able to write a lesbian romance that doesn’t feel tacky and actually has a purpose for being gay as it ties into the larger theme of the piece.
>>741978702I still can't believe they just straight up fu king killed onion san and fed em to you...What the fuck was going through Toby's head????
>>741978865then what?
>>741964746How much longer will the chud melty last?A few days? A week? Are you going to die like this?
>day 3>I'm still dreaming about my worst case scenario for ch5God fucking damn it. When will I wake up from this vivid nightmare
>>741978664We have had more “breather chapters” than actual important chapters.
>>741978904then you kill yourself
you see, you expected a good story, but you're getting a shit oneyour expectations are... subverted
There has to be SOME rugpull regarding Susie's behavior, I refuse to believe she's really going to just shonenfag her way through the prophecy with zero stakes and then walk off into the sunset with Noelle just like that
>>741978904unskippable 4 hour long chapter that is nothing but poorly written yuri, and kris is not allowed to leave.
>>741978376>the mew mew lyricsuh oh
>>741977902>>741977902>Did he straight up talk with inanimate flowers beforehand? I think that might be what happened.
>>741978865god I hope the knight just gets Mike'd and is just a png of a baseball or something it would be so fucking funny
deploying brat
Jevil will you fucking wake up already?I used FIGHT to get the Devilsknife just to make sure you wouldn't go to sleep and I've been carrying your dumbass around for 5 chapters and you're still not getting out of my inventory.
>>741978867Noelle doesn't have the Thorn ring equipped if you abort in ch4 so I don't think anything major will change, aborting in ch5 will depend if you are able to take the ring away from her or not.
>Pink is a literal lightner that gets told about dark worlds>this will never be brought up againuh...huh.
>The best interpretations people can come up with as to why Mewmew has a shadow crystal still just make her sound like discount SpamtonWhat was Toby thinking
>Toby starts working with Hussie again>Immediately pull a Homestuck moment YOU ARE WELCOME
>>741979025chapter 5 is already out tho
>>741978509Prime example of complex thought from Toby.I bet he's only doing an escapism is bad plot because he thought it sounded cool.
I'm going to invent a time machine to go back in time to whenever Toby decided to be a spiteful Hussie wannabe and remove a chunk of his flesh each time he attempts to reference anything from the community.
>>741974098how can somebody miss the obvious kris = aqua parallel this badly?
>>741964746It's the BATTAT motif!
>>741979145Fuck him, genuinely terrible person no matter how you look at it
>>741979131>What was Toby thinkinghehehehe trans catgirl :3
>>741979183It’s because Japanese games he’s played before have had themes like that and everything he’s ever made is derivative.
Another abysmal dogshit threadWhere janny when you need him?
I think this is genuinely the first time I've ever been unsettled by a basic blurring effect, Noelle somehow looks 666% more fucked up that way
>>741978376>Jevil and Spamton reference weird route all the timeGenuinely what the fuck does this imply?
>>741979021She is unknowingly following in Dess' footsteps and completely losing herself to the darkness. When she invites Noelle to the dark world, and attempts to save Rudy with it, it will be checkmate. The prophecy will be fulfilled. This chapter despite its flaws brought an end to the "Susie is the true hero" shit which I am grateful for.
It's okay if you don't want to use Aqua as FemKris evidence but to deny she's a parallel to kid Kris before Dess disappeared is straight up insanity.
>>741978867I wouldn't expect much if I were you, I'm fully ready for it to be very similar to the normal route with a few modified dialogues. People were already hyping up an aborted route after 4 and it didnt lead to anything thus far
>>741979131This chapter would have been fine if the secret boss was more serious/ties in with the themes of jevil and spamton. And it would have been fine if we learned ANYTHING about Asgore’s time with the police and the Dessaperance. I don’t want the fucking roaring to happen or gaster to show up or something ridiculous like that. Just literally something to keep us occupied for the next year
>>741964746>>freedom motif mocked in an optional fight in castle townRight? how could we have been so insane to think the melody used only for secret bosses for 7 years was going to be tied to the secret bosses. Maybe if Toby didn't want people to get that idea he shouldn't have been a lazy fuck and actually finished chapter 3 within a reasonable time frame>b-b-b-but his wristEat my dick
>>741979279sometimes killing your enemy is a mercy while letting them live prolongs their suffering
>>741979207I dont remember this black souls scene
>>741979314>the freedom theme characters reference the freedom theme routereally hard to make sense of this to be honest
>>741978982
>>741979232Yeah fuck telling a compelling story, it's more rewarding to piss off autists for the sake of cheap laughs
>>741979279STOP CRITICIZING MY COMFORT MEDIA!!!!!
>>741979207this was always the plan, but he's unironically a worst writer than hussie, and hussie is already not a good writer
TEN FEET TWENTY
>>741979357well it all depends on how you're getting that pure crystal, if it's from seam after collecting 5 shadow crystals, might as well abort in the 2nd chapter when it's still sunshine and rainbows
>>741966826>when you can’t say or do anything without people delving into 3 hours video essaysLiterally nothing is stopping him from saying something and not caring about the autism storm it causes. He shouldn't even be looking at the fanbase anyways, it poisons his work in progress, just look at all the fucking self-referential gags crammed into this chapter.
>>741964746>He doesn't know japanese to understand Mew mew's schizo lyricsThis board is full of fake fans I see
>>741979408it's from a touhou series the BS artist did before actually working on BShttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP0jCPw9IPWjhagFkKzUgm4H_LbBi5uXK
>>741978958Props to Toby for having the balls to let Pizzapants tell the nice cream faggot to fuck off after lying to him. Really thought he was gonna turn him gay.
>>741979436I LOVE ABYSSMAL YURI DOGSHIT
Anyone got the "sorry, they raped noelle" meme?
>entire community loved chapter 4, most say it’s the best chapter yet>a-actually we love chapter 5 even more! Chapter 4 was shit for the loreheads lol! The most interesting part of Deltarune is actually Suselle and le quirk chungus flowers
>>741979439>TRANNY TRANNY TOBY HATES ME PERSONALLY KEKOLDING HOMESTUCK>criticism
>>741979514>>741979524ANONS, LOOK OUT
FLOWER MANFLOWER MAN
>>741974098Yellow =/= Gold
The only problem with the "Onion is dead" theory is that don't monsters turn to dust when they die? Unless her ashes tasted like onion, which seems weird when I assume they'd just sink in the water the moment she died...?
>>741979564Only fags on Xitter like chapter 5 because it validates their mental illness.And even then some of them are going>wait a minute, this is kinda weird
>>741979436>2 filler chaptersI dunno man, when I replayed Chapter 3 (& 4) in preparation for Chapter 5 I had a lot of fun, genuinely the first time I T-Ranked both boards too
>>741979107Aqua doesn't really work well as a brat. She is your daughterwife. She is for cuddles and kisses, not for teaching lessons
>>741974443It's the golden flower that shares the cage with blue, no?
>>741979648who said onionsan is a monster and not just an octopus
>>741979516sry we actual seasoned old 4channer dont approved of tranime brainrots
>>741979245Source?
>>741977290Kris keeps some of his feathers just for luck
>>741979436It kinda reminds me of the Ace Attorney problem where nearly half the games were spent on irrelevant cases. Even if Chapter 6 and 7 are full on resolution until the end it’ll still feel really weirdly paced with all the chapters together.
>>741979574bohooo gonna cry?
I think toby is malding from TADC coming out, getting huge, and then taking a big fat shit on the concept of a simulation because that what he planned for deltarunethere's no escaping the comparisons once it ends
reminder to any doubters for the future, its all according to keikaku.
>>741977479That's a girl.
>>741979516We don't like tranime brainrot, sorry.
>>741964746If i wanted to get NTR'd, i would have watched Adventure Time past "Frost and Fire"
>>741979648Onion was eaten alive, like how Japanese people will eat those tentacles that are still wriggling and reacting
>>741979662I just edited the first few seconds of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFEBK3RGD3I to include chapter 5's existence for shits and gigglesChapter 3 was less filler though
>>741979564chapter 5 has been received as lukewarm to bad, I don't think ive seen any forums singing its praises that hard.
>>741965696Because the average millenial is incapable of being sincere. It's extra ironic considering Gerson called people out like that directly, and yet, Toby & the Troons did exactly that. Like, I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, sure, but I wasn't expecting it to be actively bad either.
>>741979564Yeah you guys all loved Chapter 4 and definitely weren't shitting your diaper over Suselle for the whole past year before this
>>741964746>>741964836>>741965696deltababies that don't know about Homestuck are in for a rude awakening
>>741979749Hometown feels like it was a real town until Gaster dropped the "FUCK YOU DIE" barrier that sends you to the depths.
>>741978376>>741974098>when asked about the Knight>SPEAKING OF [[Communion]]>KRIS, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE KNIGHT...>No, I'm sorry! I'm sorry! I didn't mean to -->TOO MANY EXCESS VACATION DAYS?? >TAKE A GOD DAMN VACATION STRAIGHT TO HELLwe take a vacation from chapter 6.
It's safe to say chapter 6 will take place in the lake right? Onion got sucked into the dark world there, somehow
>>741979691good morning saar
>>741978947 herei'm a trans minor attracted indian btw
>>741964746I'm upset I can't make Kris date Berdly in Chapter 5.
>>741979749>[media] if it was written by gooseworx is already a huge memeToby is setting himself up as the next creator lolcow who botched his ending.
>>741979691Bait
Reminder Kris deserves to be cucked to oblivion>Steals YOUR ingame body>Steals YOUR ability to make choices>Forces you to be a spectator in everything>Beats the fuck outta you when you misbehave>Rips you out and throws you in garbage even though you're the only reason any of them are even aliveKris is a sadistic piece of shit and the Weird Route is justified. All four of the main characters should be killed
The story's been off the rails from the start.You never slayed the dragon, you let her take everything from you.
>>741979749Do you think Pomni invented the concept of a fake meta game
Ah, /v/ getting cucked by yuriniggers again it seems.
>>741979841I am more upset over Susie not allowing me to like she need me to follow her and her date around.
>>741978947
>>741979841Did that artist drop any new art since the Chapter released?
>>741979529Oh did that really happen? Based Toby, I'm so homophobic that I just straight up picked the gator and never looked back. Thought the other option would be a happy ending as well.
>>741979778Gaster is more metal than i could have evver expected
>>741979207Maybe that's why he is so ill now
>>741979901>The real inferno of jealousy was self insert/HMOFAfags having a meltyBravo toby fox
>>741979894no, but TADC is HUGE. the first thing you will hear is "wow did toby rip off TADC lol"
>>741979841WeWereRobbedfuck you toby.
>>741979645>Yellow =/= GoldI say this as a yellowfag, shut the fuck up. You know damn well the initial yellow threads were all talking about how they fumbled major plot points and story beats just to make it The Ceroba Show.>Ceroba taking over the final areas of the game, has the most dialogue out of any character because you can get unique dialogue out of almost every room you walk in with her>Set up Ceroba's daughter as someone important, never do anything with her. Just handwave away that she might be okay.>Set up Ceroba at all to being a good person after effectively killing her own daughter>Set up Chujin to be making a special Boss Monster serum that proved to be incomplete, but theoretically possible>Set up Chujin to be directly targeting Martlet, the final boss of Genocide, likely for compatibility reasons with the serum>Martlet instead injects herself with Alphys' fucking Determination serum that she stole instead, robbing that entire plot point of any weight
>>741978664>set up chapter 5 as the moment things get real between the festival, prophecy, and Asgore mentions >”nah let’s nostalgia bait undertale and chapter 1 lmao”Jesus is Toby afraid of being mostly serious for an entire chapter? Does taking the Gersonpill terrify him?
>>741964836>humiliates people who want gameplay>humiliates people who want lore enjoyerseh
>
collaged the catti dialogue for anyone that didn't catch itthis level of petty malice is insanity
Suselle is just a horrible ship. I don’t see any way to make it work beyond the most surface level butch x femme shit and the toddler tier writing of it in game is pure cringe.
>>741979749>of a simulationBut Sansy is from there
>>741979793Chapter 4 had a lot of meat in it ,the best song , Gerson, and the Titianhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1RK1m7qvc
>>741979841I wonder how this artist is copping knowing that her husbando will never be relevant ever again.
>>741979901Self-inserting "Krusie" tourists lostReal /v/irgins won
whats happening in this image
>>741978775>black vinyl CD shards>insert disc 2 (new Knight is Kris)We're just doing Homestuck again
>>741979991only actual genuine children would think that
>>741979529Toby is reading this thread laughing at you knowing he has planned ahead and made Pizzapants come out as bi in Chapter 6.
the code being 8 digits long makes me think it's not 1225, maybe add a year to that? noelle's or dess's birthday? what about the deltarune code?
Toby please confirm Kris is a girl I can't stand the /u/ Deltarune thread to be full of Suselle slop.
>>741980025>tomorrow, we have to do something...>...about my DATE with the SUPER HOT REINDEER GIRL, Kris!!>God damn I'm so excited to slam clams with Noelle I'm not gonna be able to sleep in my bed, which is in my home, which is the dark world in the school's closet!>Kris, make sure you come early tomorrow so you can help me prepare for my SUPER IMPORTANT ROMANTIC DATE WITH NOELLE!
>>741979879I did want him to suffer but not like this. I wouldn't wish this shit on my worst enemies
>>741978947Suselle being canon means the death of threads. So I expect this to last for a long time. Toby being a yurifag doomed us all.
>>741979879Kris deserves to date Berdly.>>741979914Susie took away our Choice.>>741979940Idk I haven't checked, I hope.>>741979992I didn't expect all the replies.>>741980056I hope this artists still draws.
>>741980005>Jesus is Toby afraid of being mostly serious the tumblr post…is vindicated….
>>741980078...anon, who do you think cares about these games?
>>741980078i have bad news about the demographics of these fandoms. it's teenage girls to a concerning degree
>>741979232>initially make the product that looks good but is incomplete >ask someone for money to use said product promising to complete it at a consistent level of quality aswell as continuously ask for more more money during it's production>INTENTIONALLY make the product as insanely shit and horrible as possible ON PURPOSE too far in for those people who paid to back outThis is what we call a scam, a trap, and as unfortunate and retarded are the people to fall for a scam, the scammer is still objectively morally reprehensible,
>>741979991It didn't exist three years ago and people won't be talking about it this much three years from now, when Deltarune is actually complete
>>741980068 herei'm trans btw
>>741979991You need to be over 18 to post on 4chan
>>741979793I remember people clearly shitting on the suselle part but liking the sould part and especially liking Carol and the dark world + the doe rape being discovered
>>741980039This is so fucked man
>>741979991who fucking cares what retarded zoomers think? TADC is ripping off i have no mouth and i must scream, everything's a ripoff, there is nothing new under the sun
>>741966826well if he doesn't want the speculation to dominate the game discussion he should try writing some genuinely good mysteries and compelling narratives instead of relying on metanarrative gimmicks to drive interest
>>741980039poor catti
>>741979879It's okay because the pain she's going to go through in Side B will be Omega Flowey tier.
>>741978846same
>>741980170>>741980172The opinion of retarded children on twitter does not matter.
>>741979348Yeah Aqua is definitely supposed to be Kris but flower.
>>741980143susie has been insanely in love with noelle for forever, you guys are just coping because your ship sunk.
>>741980228oh toby, the future is grim and full of tears...
I really don’t give a shit who gets with Noelle because I plan to kill her at the first opportunity on any given route if given the chance
>>741980153You're weak.All of you are weak.It's disgusting.
>>741980172>it's teenage girls to a concerning degreeKeep going anon
>>741980039>Heh, too bad she left. Now there's no more freak showSusie really is regressing what the fuckThat's so uncharacteristically mean What did big g do to her.
>>741980170Aging zillennials terrified of hitting 30?
>>741977268He'll be playing the wedding march kekeke
>>741980071Okay, now I definitely need futa Aqua mating press Seth with impregnation x-ray
>>741966826wow the exact same thing that happened to Homestuck
>>741979946Yep would there should be a video of all the choices on YouTube by now.
>>741980246and your retarded opinion on 4chan does, uhum
>>741979695This artist I think.https://x.com/Blackmaro1
>>741980039This is how you know Toby has fully evolved into a Japanese writer, having that one character who exists purely to be a punching bag to a cosmic level
>when the suselle is so shit you start welcoming berdly
>>741980039And then they say Toby doesn't treat women like shit.
>>741979879When I say I want someone to suffer consequences I don't mean to cuck them. I don't want any cucking at all.
>>741978402>>741979795Not having been there, it can't have been THAT bad, right? Then again I barely know anything about Homestuck.but even if it was that bad, surely history won't repeat itself, right?
I want to have vaginal sex with Aqua so badly...
>>741980039>specifically getting the deltarune font just to wish aids upon the guy who made the gameI admire this level of mundane ire.
>>741980039I'll make her kill every single Darkner, seal the Dark Fountain, then PROCEED to get her killed.
>>741980362dbz had killin and yamcha though, so toby really has much to catch up on
>start off with a meta ironic piece because you are a millennial and that’s all you know how to write>attracts an sjw fandom that’s taking it seriously>starts pandering to this fandom because it makes you money and you also, being a good white millennial, kinda agree with them>story becomes bloated as you continuously try to pander and drag things out>because you are not really good at writing, and all you know is irony and meta jokes, the ending is half-assed and disappoints everyone I’m describing Homestuck, of course. What did you think I was talking about?
>>741980071Me sexing them
>>741979564I haven’t even people say that. It’s mostly just faggots coping by going “w-well 5s a FILLER chapter… it’s not suppose to be serious uh it’s actually a breather or how DARK and GRITY the next two chapters will be you’ll see”. Also more people care about the retarded teens drowning themselves than suselle and I find that hilarious
>>741975612>he trusted a wömanKEK, when will they learn!
>>741978947I will become one with the sun.
I don't think I've ever been more disappointed in this game other than with Chapter 5's secret boss.I could handle the Mikes. I could handle the freedom motif being used for shitty gags, but this?Before we even fight her, we already have Ralsei talking about some "WOAH GUYS!? I WONDER WHICH EPIC CHUNGUS WITH A SUPER COOL THEME IS HIDING BEHIND THIS DOOR!!?" which made me groan, but then we get there, and it's just the fucking mew mew bitch from Undertale...again! The messed-up part is that the fight is pretty good, but the character choice is just....bleh. How does she embody freedom? How does she fit in with the other secret bosses? Why is Hatsune Miku singing in the background of my fucking boss fight?She has NO Aura or plot relevance, unlike the knight. She develops NO lore, unlike Spamton. And she really isn't even that likeable IMO, like Gerson or Jevil. It honestly felt like Toby and the gang wanted to stick one of their Undertale toys in Deltarune, which is kind of what they did with Gerson, which is fair, but at least he never had a boss fight. If you include the dummy, this is like this bitch's THIRD!Honestly, probably the worst way to end the Shadow Crystal line. I'm mad I actually had any investment in this crap.
>>7419804349001 IQ move: toby hired andrew hussie to deflect
>>741980397It was really fucking bad and if this is a repeat of homestuck everyone will regret having played deltarune.
>>741980303Catti's been nothing but mean to Susie the entire time, I don't really blame Susie for lashing out.
>>741980039haha I knew Cattifags would be seething but you are MAD as fuckWhat's wrong man, I thought Toby was a yurifag?Didn't work out for your hairy dyke?
>>741980167Qrd?
>>741976661Underrated meem
>>741980469Why do you care? You shouldn't care. You'll be mocked for caring.
>>741980373>Suselle so bad, it turned me from a Krishater to wanting to protect the little guy
>>741980295Not me necessarily but /v/ totally is. Most of the discourse was shipping and against yuri, so undeniable yuri ended up causing everyone to melt. Don't know how long it will last until actual threads pop up.
>>741980039>Defending Catti from a mild insult>Still willing to throw Kris under the bus in the house scene for brownie points with SusieWeird Route is increasingly looking normal compared to this insane Kris-centric NTR garbage
>>741980039I don't get it. Why are people seething at this image?
>>741980517He just wants to compose for the rest of his days so he hired a group of retards to make the game for him.
>Wow Kris! Good thing that the password for the bunker that we so desperately needed was inside the dirt of a pot for a flower! What a lucky break for us! Good thing your father was also the Chief of Police, so it makes total sense that the code for the bunker is inside this pot at all!>Yes Kris, I know that it's incredibly that, a dark fountain was created just at this place. What a coincidence hmmm? It seems that he or she, whom probably working with the knight and opening dark fountains, should be ESPECIALLY careful about opening dark fountains on his/they/xir father's house. Oh well, onwards to my home, which is the dark fountain at school!
>>7419805189002 IQ move: toby is making it shit on purpose so he semi retire with his millions and just make music for japanese devs (who keep him around because they think he's popular with their target demographic)
>>741966826I'd be flattered if people cared that much about every detail I put in.I just also wouldn't care if they're wrong
>>741980596Because of how unnecessarily cruel this scene was to Catti.
>>741980520Wasn't Susie a major cunt to people before the game started, or am I misremembering?
>>741980543i'm not even a hard cattifag or anything like that but it's so fucking mean spirited that it makes me feel terrible for her and it actually kind of made me like catti way more now
>>741980402Me...
What if Berdly was a cute girl
>>741980143>writing so dogshit people are coping about how it’s actually intentionally retardedI would fucking kill myself if I was in Toby’s shoes
>>741980469Her Soul and Body want different things and are fighting each other actively during the fight. So that's the way it embodies freedom.Besides that you're 100% correct. Also you forgot to mention she's easy as fuck, I did her fight FIRST TRY, I expected (and wished for) something to bust my balls harder than the knight, but nope.
DEPLOYING BRAT FOR CORRECTIONhttps://files.catbox.moe/w7lmhp.png
You know it's bad when an NTR artist admits he lost to Toby.
>>741980469>How does she fit in with the other secret bosses?How does a boss fight that's about a ghost piloting a body where both have their own individual desires fit in with the other secret bosses? Is this a serious question?
>>741980469>She has NO Aura or plot relevance, unlike the knightDid you skip every single dialogueIts either that or you're illiterate
>>741965696Have you not just seen the double fuck you TADC did to the fanbase
>>741980039susie stocks in shambles
>>741975612if you think about ralsei on the orange/green path, you get a cutscene of him praying to the angel to have mercy on susie.he is facing the screen while he does this.you do know what that means, right?ralsei knows that what susie has done pissed us off and wants us to spare her.we will be given the option to kill susie.
Protect Kris?Hell no, I'm murdering Susie in cold blood first opportunity I get.And if Toby dares to try to cuck me out of that too, I'm personally learn how to mod the game to dismember Susie.
>>741980675SEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>741980517did he actually hire him or is that a meme?
>>741980650Doesn't seem all that different from the usual bants between semi-antagonistic characters in Toby games.
>>741980518Are we talking SnK-tier bad?
Goomy status?
Noelle is the Knight. She fucked her body up to TRY to achieve Freedom. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=566dcI9ar9A
>>741980170If you were ten when this game came out you could now post here
>>741980595>Weird Route is increasingly looking normal compared to this insane Kris-centric NTR garbageIf anything Kris as a NPC has been shown to be psychotic and outright evil. The player controlling him is a force for good even if you make him do some fucked up shit to Noelle. At least he is not out there causing a literal apocalypse or something
>>741980669might as well make berdly a girl at this point.
>>741975612>AND HOW DOES SUSIE REPAY HIM?
>>741980698no?
>>741980680kek
>>741980715dunno about the skullgirls chick but I haven't heard anything otherwise about him hiring andrew hussie and the void stranger dev for filler content
Im just wondering what Kris did to deserve all this trouble. Roping someone in as a third wheel is not what you do to friends.
>>741980659>aged upCringe
>>741966550>Tricky Toby may be more based than I imaginedKEK deltatroons we can't be this delusional
>>741980596Suselle is so badly written the cope theory is that Susie must actually be mind controlled.
>>741980675plap plap plap
>>741980123If he does I will be disappointed but not surprised.>>741980163Me too, despite not really caring about shipping her artstyle rather pleasing to look at.
>>741980413it's not even the deltarune font lol it's fixedsys which is similar but not the same
Mew Mew actually drives in the point that the fight for freedom is the fight you have within yourself. That's what the whole game is about.
>>741980748it all comes back to spamton
>>741980680>Dess dying resulted in Kris being NTR’d>Susie would have been in Kris’s role as the outsiderFucked up man
>>741980723Who will kill for us?
>>741980373>all the "lol wat if u go with Berdly" moments leading up to it>I actually want to go with birbboy>"We need them"
>>741980748Fucking hell man, was all Spamton lines just foreshadowing?
>>741964746You lorefags talk like Toby raped your dogAnyways pounding Seth's fat purple ass until she cries
>>741980748THE GIFT THAT KEEPS ON GIVING
>>741978638Underrated meem nr2
>>741980708I didn't enjoy Genocide Route in UT because monsters were basically wild 'animals' with little free will.But I will love the possible shitshow we could get to punish all those fuckers.
>>741964836Completing two genocide runs one after another for the first time playing the game. Is once again the canon ending Toby is trolling the mentally ill psychos. And the retrads don't even notice this. Its a good thing he keeps on shoving in more gay shit& etc enabling mental iillness/degeneracy because once the dog is outta the bag. And Toby forces everyone to sit down and read shit plane as day. So reality kicks in which is going to be very very blatant this time unlike in undertale because people are beyond fucking mentally retarded. To the point ""fans""" kept on sucking off MattPat theorys as canon,truth&facts. Complete ignoring the fact Toby called him a fucking parasite and a blight on the fandom who wont stop spreading harm for click$$$$$ and E-peen on how totally right his stolen content is. People are gonna seeth cope and refuse to dial-eight. The insane ignorance is going to be unreal as people claim this is all some deep false narrative. Claim some beyon mentally ill shit that this is all just Gaster shitposting to obfuscate the truth hiding it perfectly.Fucking why cant people understand that undertale and deltarune the monsters are not good happy go loving people. They are indeed M O N S T E R S not humanoid creatures but beings of great immoral evil. With deltarune its more hidden but the pay off is going to be amazing, because Toby is going to. Have to tie everything up and blatantly paint the picture as simple as possible so these retards. Finally understand the message&meaning to this whole fucking story/world. And that 95% of the "fandome" are nothing more than monsters themselves enabling mentally illness, degeneracy, violence of the worst kind, literal fucking genocide&torture&eugenics. Which is rather fitting for the world of undertale&deltarune because the playerbase the so called fandom are once again horrific mosters just as vile,stupid&evil as the characters in the fucking world. Inb4 high grade scitzospambait
this is your future btw
>>741974098>implication that kris is a dude, just fruity as hellcool>implication that noelle is a tranny or somethingfucki think i'll take my chances with aquakris even if it enables femkris faggotry
>>741980651The suggestion is that Susie's kind of maladjusted and doesn't know how to get along with people but nothing anybody said about her suggests she was actually bullying anybody, people just talked about her behind her back after she was weird or disagreeable one time. Every interaction you have with the yellow kid is about that.
>>741980039>Shit talking "weird">Wants "normal"Fuck you Toby and Gaster if this is your normal than I shall destroy this hell world
>>741980039Man, poor Catti
>>741980124what if 1225 is just what dess calls herself since christmas is a december holidaywhat if it's a red herring
>>741979529Same but because of the three Bratty is clearly the one with a reputation to ruin and my man Burgerpants deserves a shot at that gator mawpussy.
>>741980469im genuinely disappointed its LITERALLY mew mew from undertale (switch). Gerson gets a pass for being 100x more of an undertale character than she ever was. words cannot describe my sadness when I heard the freedom part in her song.
>>741980827Kinda reminds me of “I Want to Live” from BG3 having lyrics about being a vampire and wanting to escape from your abusive master but the composer denies it being a theme for Astarion, it’s supposed to be about “the player” lol
>>741980454this, woman moments are never not disgusting but the worst part is i've seen worse irl so i'm not even that phased, just have to turn your brain off
>>741980910last thing this world needs is another homestuck
>>741980874both seth and cyan are probably male and toby is furiously jacking off to the thought of making people jack off to his gay OCs by making them nonbinary
>>741980039I don't want to downplay Toby's evident hackery but this dialogue in particular feels like it was written by an intern
>>741980675Aqua sexo impregnating brat
Aw, IG Carol and Rudy were somewhat cute together before too
>>741964746Millennials are allergic to sincerity. They will self-sabotage at every turn.His hands being in constant pain probably doesn't help either. Fagtard probably regrets making this shit 7 chapters long just for the sake of "quirky Undertale reference."
>>741980675I love her so much.
What would you do if you were Pizzatrousers in this situation
>>741979645if you're talking about the flowers sharing a case at the end, gold/flowery gets a cage while yellow and blue share oneit's just hard to tell due to the lighting and yellow/gold looking so similar in the first place
Weird Route is not enough. I need to make Susie suffer personally.
>>741980373>chapter 4>hell yeah susie is gonna be how we defy the prophecy chapter 5-7 is gonna be cash money fuck you kris>chapter 5>kris we gotta start the roaring i hate these peopleif this is intentional then bravo toby
>>741980469>How does she embody freedom? How does she fit in with the other secret bosses?The literal message of her boss fight is directly against Spamton's parallel of Kris being this tragic puppet we're controlling and to aim for coexistence lest we destroy each other
>>741981020Neither of them are nonbinary, you disingenuous nigger
>>74197561290% of those things were all (ME) though
Ahaha!
>>741980039>man I really hurt catti’s feelings I should try to apologize… actual nah fuck that loser she’s fat and ugly LMAOGenuinely is this an elaborate psyop or did Toby somehow forget everything that made Susie likable within the span of a year?
>>741980628this made me realize the last code might require closing mycastletown, which is part of why flowery gets on ralsei's ass about double standards.
>>741981084Punch him in the face and then leave. Do not show that it bothers you. It's the only real acceptable response.
Why are gasterfags such complete retards? You know he's going to be nothing more than an easter egg.
>>741981084I wanted Burger to beat NicePants ass, well, telling him off is fine too I suppose.
>>741980748it's insane how spamton keeps cementing himself as the absolute peak of the entire fucking gameit just doesn't stop
>>741981174there is a whole scene about seth being unsure if they are boy or girl lmfao. keep jacking off to your gay barney dinosaur
Am I the only one who feels like Toby's kind of a NIMBY fleeing to cozy conservative japan and completely isolating himself from his rabid western fanbase and pretending like he's too good for them but then he still stuffs his game full of trans- and fagshit
Idk how scripted that segment with the seth+aqua battle was but apparently she picks an attack based on the one you fucked up to the most during aqua's solo fight.What happens if you no hit aqua's fight and do not get hit by ANYTHING at all? I assume this must change the dialogue in the seth+aqua battle??
>>741964746There were fights in Castle Town?
>>741981084What he did but probably with more tears
>>741981037you are coping hard to be honest
>>741981060I hope they deliver on the reveal, the absolute tragedy seeped into Kris and Carol’s lives because of Dess’s death is really engaging
I hate having to constantly adjust tumblr URLs to make sure I have the full image sizes
>>741980732>Knight is just Weird Route Noelle who fell back in time
>>741981270If you no hit she throws out 3 attacks at once
Am I the only one that saw this when the SOUL heart kept repeatedly moving right in the weird route scene while Noelle screams Kris's name?
>>741981270>Seth somehow picks the attack i jobbed to the leasthuh.
>>741980910its good that he fucked up as early as ch5, now i know not be hyped for 6 and 7 and just enjoy for the gameplay and music
>>741981060so is noelle lowkey autistic?
https://pastebin.com/GpPmKXcm
>>741980748>>741981246>his entire meltdown applies from kris's perspectiveuh
>>741981084the yellow asshole cat rubbing salt on the wound just made this funnier and yet also more tragic
>>741980658A big part of this chapter was the "inferno of jealousy"Sometimes in life, your happiness means that other people can't be happy, and vice-versaThat's the case for all of the romance and for more real things, like how Flowery and Ralsei present the dilemma of keeping the Flower King Fountain open or the Castle Town Fountain, and how Susie is making the Dark World her home but alienating her connections in the Light World (Kris and Toriel) and her actual home, however shitty it might be.Catti being explicitly and harshly jealous of Suselle is a blunt way to introduce this chapter's conflict, for people who haven't picked up on or aren't respecting that Kris is in love with Susie and Noelle.
>>741980748literally undefeatedGOAT of the entire game and the only boss besides the knight to make kris so visibly shaken that susie and ralsei notice
>>741981084Punch in the face until my knuckles start to bleed
consider the following>gersons description of lord of the hammer hasn't happened yet>its a description of the future of the weird route>you go back in time with Noelle and kill Susie in chapter 1
>"I'm soooo cool, I got my perfect home, new friends and now a possible girlfriend. Thanks a lot Kris but I don't need you anym-">*block her path*
How likely is that Noelle opens a dark world in Rudy's room at the hospital once she learns she can possibly help with his disease?
>>741980806>her artstyle rather pleasing to look at.Made my favorite Kris design, I love their tooth gap.
>>741981270https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_FNRGi1Ttk
>>741981337>starts dreaming of cock yeah checks out anon
>>741980910Is there a TLDR for what happened to Homestuck that made everyone turn on it? I remember it was everywhere back in the day, but now it seems completely forgotten.
>>741980748I wish Spamton was an antagonistic recurring character, he's fucking gold on every scene he's in
>>741981354SPAMTON CAN'T STOP FUCKING WINNING WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS
Mad mew mew was added out of spite for people that wanted friend to be the chapter 5 secret boss
>>741981258>bbuubut the scene said-Nah, clearly female.You trying to stick your faggot labels doesn't work. The nonbinary bullshit was imposed upon her.Nigger.
>>741981359>uh actually susie got character assassinated for the sake of the chapter theme so it's OKyou're not slick fox
>>741974484>shift gearsthere is literally no way toby has shifted gears in any meaningful way in response to any fan backlash, chapter 6 is nearing completion, chapter 5 was also basically done by the time 3+4 released.
>>741980039Susie never actually redeemed herself from being a bully.
>Didn't want to get Ch.3+4 till they go on sale>See thisI'm glad I didn't waste my money. I will pray for those poor few souls who are either brave enough or foolish enough to see this through to the end.
>>741980910I feel like I dodged a bullet being too busy with being a ball gamer in my teens because I probably would have eaten Homestuck up. I still want to believe we're not heading towards the same bullet.
>>741981354Oh my god, this character is perfect, Spamton is just Kris after a neutral run because Toby knew that people would be pissed off and want another ending
>>741981362If only he could hear how much we love him through the screen.
>>741981354AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>741981442>the game isn't canonlol, lmao even
>>741980039>you furry freak>freak showsusie is just racist against cats
>>741981084Hard to say since ending up in that situation in the first place is pretty damn boneheaded. Offhand I'd think just numbness, tell him to fuck off, and walk away.
>>741981395kek. Nice
>>741981413you know all of the complaints that people have about chapter 5? it was all of that. history is repeating.
>>741981441Mad Mew Mew was added to drain my balls
>>741981347No, she was just young and didn't know what being a couple was about
>>741981372Do we have to kill her? I'm sure we can just get her off the path.
>>741981092I'm not even invested in any of this but the cope theories that it's all on purpose don't sound impossible.
>>741978702Onion was gonna get in your way of going into the lake (you're going there on both routes)
I just realized...was this thing not in castle town at all on pacifist save route? fucking RIP
Strawpoll for you pacifistfags and former pacifistfags.https://strawpoll.com/7rnzVXQ1YnOAnd now a moral question: is it better to have awakened Noelle? Is it still the same girl Kris loved? Was it right to make her kill her friend, rape her, then have her rape (You) and commit suicide together?Was it worth it? Are there actually any "means" that need to be justified, if this is a video game? And what, in the fuck, are the "ends"?
>He's cucked?>He is.>Let him in.
>>741981460like i think people need to just accept there was never a mike or any of these random theories/characters people have to begin with
>tfw never liked Susie>tfw vindicated when every one else ends up not liking her as wellAh, but at what cost?
>thorn ring lost and obliterated in both versions of ch.5 weird route, with one of the versions making it impossible for you to get the pure crystal even if you do get the thorn ring back somehow>thorn ring still remains with (You) if you aborted in ch.2, giving way to finally make the twisted sword in ch.6Aborted weird routeCHADS
>>741981508>BBUT THE GAME IMPOSED-Doesn't matter, nigger. It was a label being imposed when it's clearly a biological female.
>>741981602I lost Jackenstein for fucking up those disgusting Titan Spawns. We probably lost him by cutting those spiky spawns on the way to the tower or something.
cant believe cleveland brown cucked kris bros...
susie is merely pretending to be retardedfreak autist girl masking
>>741980787i dunno man, all these kids seem socially retarded, i doubt they actually think aout stuff like that
>>741980039This reads like vtuber drama. No wonder you faggots love this game.
>>741964746>>741965696It’s called, subverting your expectations
>>741981627>>741981486>>741981487>>741981354[[Hyperlink Blocked]]
>>741981657You're losing it.
>>741980039Women, eh. Drop their friends at a drop of a pussy.
All theories here come from twitterI'm kinda disappointed even if they are good>Flowers are the anti souls, they lack what they supposedly represent
>>741980787I think Toby was trying to force us to see that Kris is okay with Suselle, but he even fucked that up because now the entire fan narrative is that ch6 will be about kris' incel rage
>>741981602sex creatura
>>741981627>ENTER, (YOU)!
>>741981657for one they are flowers and therefore hermaphrodites, literally non binary. >the game imposedwhat is that even supposed to mean? the game is the source material
>>741966659Everhood ahh ending
can you even replay chapter 1 knowing what susie becomes later
Are those screenshots of Ralsei getting groomed real or did I get memed
If susie really never cared about kris in the first place and never had any feelings for him....Why did she sleep in his bed?Why did she get so flustered and clearly lie when asked about it?What about literally every thing before? The motives completely changed we've literally been getting mind reads on susie regularly before chapter 6...This shit don't make no sense...
>"Chapter 5, The Field of Pink and Gold. The vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy."Damn. Kris NTR confirmed by Gerson himself.
So why was the sun in the dark world? I assume the world was on fire but it was just there
Best flower?https://strawpoll.com/PKgleXW6JZphttps://strawpoll.com/PKgleXW6JZphttps://strawpoll.com/PKgleXW6JZpWorst flower?https://strawpoll.com/GJn44mqDznzhttps://strawpoll.com/GJn44mqDznzhttps://strawpoll.com/GJn44mqDznz
>>741980039this is just another piece on the pile for>megacope theory of the writing being bad on purpose because the prophecy is forcing shit...>... or toby's lost the plot and is making the worst slop imaginablefucking>she honestly never even disliked you until i told her i... wanted to know you betterIF toby is setting this up for the biggest gigakino of the century, catti knows the prophecy and knows that suselle is the doomstate for it.but at the same time this also fits toby losing the plot entirely.
>>741981767>can you even replay chapter 1 knowing the dumb fuck does dumb fuck things laterYes.
>>741981785Toby kinda forgot about the inferno
Gaster is controlling Susie in order to NTR Kris as a character building step because Gaster wants him to take his rightful place along side him
>>741981602>sexiest darkner only appears for 2 milliseconds
>>741980039Fixed it.
>>741981786It was one of the foxesFor real tho, its because plants need sun to live
>>741981741>All theories here come from twitternigger what the fuck are you talking about
>HE*they
You know, I'm kinda glad ch5 ended up being as shit as it was. Now I wont be strung along anymore like I was with ch3+4
>>741981354>yfw kris ends up with a ring at the end of a neutral play through and nobody to give it to>ends up selling it
>>741981830the implied inferno is made by our asses
>>741980748Spamton shall always remain the best boy. He gave us the key to freedom
>>741981775>Why did she sleep in his bedBecause of the spikes>What about everything elsefuck you :)
>>741980039I assume that the tolerant, anti-bully Tumblrfags were fine with this development and screamed 'YASS QUEEN, YOU GO SUSIE. SUSELLE 4EVER'.
>>741981610Kris should just find another girl that isn’t a massive bitch. Kinda hard in this day and age, but the problem is that this is a videogame and so his options are more limited than the average person.
>>741980913>>741979225I'm not saying Kris doesn't have aqua parallels, but Kris title at the beginning of the chapter is Blue Rose, not Aqua or Cyan Rose.Also, the flowers don't need to be references to JUST one character. Flowery is both a reference to Rudy and also is the "Ralsei" of the flower shop.
>>741964836>NOOOOOOO THINK OF THE LOREFAG FANARINOSloooooooooooool you fags kill every single fanbase you attach yourself to
>>741981861The pictures that connect dots, are twitter picsEither anons just took them, or are attention whoring outside
>>741980039> "I don't understand why everyone hates me."> "Lmao, you're such a fucking loser, Catti. That's why Noelle likes me better than you."What the FUCK is her fucking problem??
>>741981830A dark world leaking through an open door kinda looks like smoke though.
>>741981767just pretend it's a self-contained thing and ignore everything that comes after
>>741981847HA!
>>741981741Best I can do is throw shit at the wall with barely a thought behind it that sticks 1% of the time.For tonight, what if Kris floated in from the other side of the lake?
>>741964746is sustingas snoopingas?
>>741968876But the reveal of Mike being multiple NPCs putting on a front was kinda neat and thematically aligned with ch 3 being about putting on showsAnd the idea they have to act as Mike due to tennis being a schizo about a guy named Mike is funny
>>741964836>lets humiliate and degrade my most die-hard fansumineko did this and it was the greatest finale ever written
>>741980748What are some spamton lines that still cant be connected to anything that happened? He is more accurate than prophecy
>>741981830There was literally no inferno. Not even a metaphorical one.Maybe it was supposed to be that one Ralsei attack? And hes jealous of Flowery?No. Lets be honest. Toby just threw out his own prophecy to subvert expectations.Like Ch3 was Kris alone for the secret stuff, Ch4 was Susie alone, Ch5 was supposed to be Ralsei alone but he shoved in that dogshit mikumiku encounter to SUBVERT gosh aren't you so surprised guys?!?!?
Where were (you) when (you) realized the inferno of jealousy was referencing Krusie fans instead of Asgore
>>741981915Retarded fat cat ass is ripe for the taking. She can lap up milk while he chews on moss. They're perfect for each other.
>>741979841>berdley went from being the joke option that only weirdos unironically pick, to being the only one left that kris could potentially meaningfully bond with (who isn't a darkner)
>>741981862*she
>>741981386Oh yeah, I love this artist too. Although I was surprised their Kris is a girl.
>>741982020that is until the manga cucked out, so hopefully toby doesn't do the same thing
>>741982041itt
Cuntboy Kris
>do normal route>get punished >do weird route>get "punished" (kino)What did Tobert mean by this
>>741982023>Spamton begs the audience to stop taking the furniture out of his roomIt's Kris losing everything as Susie prepares Noelle's room.
>>741982041>t.
>>741981649Just glitch a second one into existence
>>741981952so you're telling me all the spamton dialog screencaps are just taken from twitter?any proof to back up your claims?
>>741981830Maybe we are supposed to be the inferno because he was trying to piss us off
>>741981741flowers are all fragments of kris's personality
>>741980039at this point carol could lob susie's head off with her shitty katana as the rest of the town cheered and i'd feel nothing
>>741982041The inferno is Ralsei over Flowery.
This probably gets botted but I have to knowhttps://poal.me/bxb7vx
>>741982156Plap
>>741981775She obviously cares about Kris, even apart from the evidence she explicitly said as much on that walk home at the end of chapter 5. That doesn't mean she has romantic feelings.It also, though, doesn't mean she DOESN'T have romantic feelings. She's someone with relatively little interpersonal experience who probably comes from a fucked up home, and with Kris not literally beating her over the head with the idea like Noelle did she probably hasn't even thought about the idea.
>>741982143ANONYMOUS LOOK OUT.
>>741982069On Normal Route it is the player who is Frozen in cringe.
>>741982160Im a Krusie shipper first and formost and a weird route Krisselle shipper second.
>>741982145rape/reverse rape is truly a patrician fetish
>>741981830None of the lord of the hammer has happened yet. Not even chapter 1
>>741980748>I REMEMBER WHEN YOU WERE JUST A LOST [Little Sponge]>SLEEPING AT THE BOTTOM OF A DUMPSTERmotherfucker he was talking about susie from our perspective
Deltarune was never a dating sim you weirdo fags
>>741982143Just make it into a girl at this point.
>>741981649one must go between the lines
>>741980039>susie becomes gay for ONE day>immediately becomes a narcissistic asshole who only cares about eating her GFs ass out and degrading everyone elsewhat did toby mean by this
>>741980748I fucking kneel to SpamCHAD
>>741982092>Although I was surprised their Kris is a girl.Disappointing.
>>741982034>Toby just threw out his own prophecy to subvert expectationsi'm convinced you guys genuinely think these chapters are made a week prior
>>741980748MY HOPE METER'S AT MAX.TOBY HAD TO OF PLANED THIS OUT FROM THE BEGINNING.THIS TIME, THIS TIME THE WRITING IS SHIT ON PURPOSE, AND EVERYTHING WILL TURN OUT RIGHT IN THE END IF WE WALK BETWEEN THE LINES.WE JUST HAVE TO TRUST THE DOG.
>Chapter 6>Susie invites Noelle into Castle Town fresh from Noelle seeing her dad basically dead in the hospital>Noelle crashout of similar crazy to WR Ch5, Susie is rejected>Castletown gets SNOWED>Susie shuts down effectively completely from giving a shit about the Light World, regresses into Castle Town Dark World completely.>To Proceed you must fight Susie and knock sense back into her, VS Susie (Reprise)>Somehow get her to try giving reality a chance again (Shadow Crystals?) or force her to via sealing the Castle Town fountain.>Enter whatever fucked up Dark World Noelle makes which is 1000% more schizophrenic and fucked up since it's birthed from Noelle's freak brain.I'm expecting something like this, for real. This chapter was meant to be Susie's darkest moment.
>>741982243She only wanted the walk to put him on the spot that Noelle will be joining them now.
>>741982283>Spmaton was mocking Kris by repeating his future thoughts knowing Kris is about go get fucked by everyoneMY HERO
>>741982234>>741980670
>>741981232>Weird route festival track called "Happy Town"Nah, we're still getting Gaster hints even in this shitty chapter
At bare minimum I have to stick around to see what Toby's fever dream wasSomeone basically replacing your entire life and taking all your friends?A crazy deer girl dragging you into the depths of a lake?An eggman scrambling your brains with universe esoterica?
>>741981649aborted route is definitely the true way to play the game cause the game can't course correct being a fence sitter
>>741982390It really does explain why Kris was SO disturbed by it. Especially if he's on a timeloop. Holy shit
>>741981762Ah, you're retarded. Let me chew it a little more for you since you're brain damaged, even the implication is hilarious on how vulture-like the culture is and it's pretty funny how people overlook it.>flowers clearly can tell their own genders apart and have been doing so even up until said scene>both have male/female featured through eyelashes, body type>including and not limited to appearance, even with the blue gay nigger>said blue nigger swoops in like a vulture to encourage the same vitriol on how it's okay to be nonbinary>when it's clearly a female that up until now gave no fucks about it>people clap for their "representation" without understanding the full scope because a defunct meme gets referenced on top of it
>>741982371what about cancelled weird route? he doesn't even fall off the ladder there
So does doing a “don’t recruit anything” run do anything or is it purely “pacifist but with less content”?
>>741981354someone draw this but with kris
>>741982035WALL-SAMA is strong...
>>741982008It's either >Out of boundsor>Bellow the lake>>741982187I downloaded some too, visit the site?
Sweet sweet weird route file.
>>741982464Flowery made it very clearrecruits are worthless
>>741982295the appeal is a boy with girl parts you weirdo
>>741980748the guy who called spamton "the game's entire story in a single character" in an earlier thread was so right
>>741982069Berdly is Kris' true (Boy)friend
>>741982462Noelle still gets the phone call in the montage that happens. So assumedly he still gets injured somehow.>Nothing Changed
>kill titantspawn>Jackenstein doesn't appear in castle townfuck off
>>741981354I KNEEL
I just beat mew mew, which of the flower weapons/armor are worth? You can only pick three right?
>>741982092>Actually a girlArtists are just weird man
>>741982343They aren't?
>>741982092>Although I was surprised their Kris is a girl.Amazing.
>>741982510>visit the site?I'm not a faggot no thanksgo back and stay there
It's day three and we only have one thread at a time steadily chugging along to bump limit, and more than half of it is seething about how shit the chapter was or coping how the writing is intentionally bad. Frankly a pathetic showing compared to ch2 and ch3+4 drop. Toby really did kill Deltarune with this new release
>>741982243>She obviously cares about KrisYeah sure
>>741982521
>>741981416I think less is more in this case. He already served his purpose perfectly
>>741982461your delulu lol/qa/ lost
>>741982159Damn, it fits
>>741982582>Plays the gay game with pronouns and is worried about what people thinkheh
>>741982589>ASHLEY
>>741982182I wonder how the game will react if you just cheated in the thornring into a normal, non aborted weird route save.I know you're probably just going to get a joke sans ending, but it would be cool if you could have your cake and eat it too if you abuse your control over the game's code like a real haxor.
>>741980748>KRIS THAT [Little Nipper] IS OUR [One-way Ticket] TO MAKE YOU [Big]. MAKE ME [Big].>BEFORE YOU KNOW IT WE WILL BE TAKING [ A Ride around Town on Our Specil Cungadero]>VACATIONING IN [Burning acid] WHILE YOU SOAK IN THE [Hyperlink Blocked].>BUT KRIS DON'T [Breathe] YET!! THE WAY IS LOCKED BY [High Quality Encryption]!!!Fucking SPAMTON G. SPAMTON foreshadowed the lake.
>>741982580Did you make that edit? I like boy Kris better...Still a good edit though...
>>741982213That's my headcanon>Aqua is self explanatory >Green is his silent side + love for food>Seth is the fact he's secretly a huge fucking weeb nerd>Orange is his desire to protect his loved ones>Blue is his hidden love for Noelle/Susie and general affection of his loved ones that he keeps bottled up>Juandice is his desire for justice for what happened + self loathing all loaded up into a joke characterIts not perfect, someone smarter than me can probably explain it
>>741982587>Girls when you let them onto your hobbies
>>741982243>She obviously cares about KrisUh huh. See you in chapter 6 when she takes shit from Kris room to spruce up her and Noelle's joint room including the Susie award.
>>741974098We're not doing the theorizing shtick anymore anon, Toby hates it.
>>741980748>spamton wasn't a schizo, he's actually one of the sanest members of the cast
>>741982390Funny when you remember he's a puppet too, like he's being used for ventroloquism in some way
>>741981413Hussie got on tumblr in 2011 and the story was ruined by its new fanbase. Pre-tumblr his stories were from 4chan
the kris/susie friendship feels very transactional at least when it comes to susie.>susie treats kris like shit, until the end of chapter 1 where she realizes she needs him for dark worlds>susie also says in the aborted weird route that she was interested in noelle and is glad kris isn't with her, thus adding the suspicion that she only played nice with kris in order to get with noellesusie is a horrible person, and I'm not sure that was toby's intention.
>>741982696Ngl I would lol at this if it is the case
>>741982675It's an edit made by anons here after people found out this Kris was a girl.
>>741982652>is a faggotyea I figured alreadyas I said go back and stay there faggot
>>741982669>cheatedThere's a glitch that allows you to get it though. Its Bagel Overflow
Feels good to be able to enjoy media without needing to form theories, agendas or ship characters.
>>741982383In the weird route, after you finish walking with Susie through the festival she says that she still cares about Kris even though she's spending more time with Noelle now
>>741980469I see... so this is what people mean when they talk about media literacy, or rather, lack thereof.
>>741981649is the thorn ring actually lost if you 'abort' the CH5 scene?
>>741982691nta, makes a ton of sense
>>741982696>Including the Susie awardfuck that'd hurt
>>741981823Atleast from what catti told us she was getting mega bad vibes from all her fortune telling shit on anything involving susie being with noelle, but was getting super good vibes from krisSo same kinda difference
>>741982576obviously not, trying to imply that toby is spite driven by the fans and changes the story specifically to spite everyone is fucking retarded, the most "spite driven" thing he has done is the mike boss which happens at the tail end of the chapter 4 away from the fucking story in castle town. everything we are seeing now is clearly in accordance to what toby wants to write and convey without any outside interference.
>>741980748>kris wasn't freaking the fuck out about spamton because "he just like me frfr">it's because spamton KNOWS E V E R Y T H I N G
>>741982691>Seth is the fact he's secretly a huge fucking weeb nerdSeth is his secret love for Berdly.
>>741982041>Gerson's schpeel about each chapter was a warning to us.>The terrible weapon he gave Susie was the belief in herself.>She immediately turned it on the audience and her best friend.>Like a dragon's breath, sweeping across the field of yellow betrayal and pink adorationWell, that was the last thing Toby wrote before being swallowed up. Oh well.
>>741982794Where did this artist say Kris was a girl?Or is it because Kris wears girl clothes.
>>741982567>You can only pick three right?Yeah with your leftover pink coins>which of the flower weapons/armor are worth?Generally agreed upon Green's Apron and Seth's glasses. Everything else isn't as good but people usually take Aqua's blade for the 2 defense it gives or Yellow's Hat
>>741982839>enjoy media Hi 19 year old nonbinary tranny retard! This is called a video game, stop calling everything media
>>741977434I feel like a dumbass but i've looked everywhere and can't find that guy
What are the fields of pink and gold? Obviously the garden is referring to the flower shop and the dark world, though it doesn't end up charred. If we assume the jealousy is Kris reacting to Susie, what's actually charred as a result of that happening? Or is it Kris opening the dark world in reaction to this? It could be that creating a dark world is "charring the garden" if Kris did it right after seeing Susie and Noelle at the lake
So Flowery is just Asriel+Rudy right?Wouldn't be surprised if Asriel has similar personality since Rudy is like his cool uncle (and his crush's dad) and had a lot of influence on him.
>>741982870It could be either>lodged deep in noelle's anus thanks to ch.4>washed away in the water scene which even aborted is unavoidable>thrown away after noelle fucks off and wants nothing more to do with kris
>>741982945Mostly because their Kris wears girly clothes as a little kid.
>>741981354>hyperlink blocked is just dark fountainsDamn...
What if Weird Route is canon as a way to affect the game as a whole to drop hints on them breaking free from the game, except they don't and that becomes a loop on itself.
>>741982974I thought it was a metaphor for the dark world in chapter 5, the jealously is basically all the flowers being jealous for Asgore caring more about his family than them.
>>741982948I'm talking about Deltarune, certain indie animation shows and even some manga. All of that.
>>741983024Okay but which one of the flowers is Carol.
Gotta say that cliff shop has by far the best vibes out of any shop. Only gets more kino when you go back after defeating the schizoboss
>>741982696this would be so brutal I'd actually kneel
>>741982283This crap is literally homestuck again. Fucking time shenanigans with future Kris calling present Kris a retard and you don't even get what the fuck is he talking about.
>>741982464Very few recruits even do anything so it's more like less and alternate dialogue like Queen being depressed that only Trashy arrives.
>>741983076>tradtheyWife*Kind of loses the joke when you do it like that...Doesn't it get tiring from trying to get all that representation?Let things be as they should.
>>741981084>
>>741966891>Toby was so mad that most people cared more about Susie and the main plot than his schizo weird kino that he intentionally nuked them both so people would be more willing to drown the retarded teens out of spiteI’d almost respect him for this
>>741982919>be orchestrating a timeloop masterplan >stumble into someone incoherently rattling off everything that happens in itimagine how fucked that would be
>>741983115Pink? She has a katana in her bedroom so I wouldn't be surprised if she's tough on the outside but actually soft and vulnerable on the inside. and a massive weeb
>>741982410stop watching youtube theories bro
>>741980261It was a slight crush at best. At worst Susie was using Noelle’s feelings to manipulate her into getting the codes at her house. Even at the start of CH 5 she says her main objective is still the code. She fell madly in love with her off-screen while Kris passes out from exhaustion if you don’t buy into the brainwashing cope.
>>741982948But this is media anon. This is the same slop they serve you on TV, on YouTube and on Netflix.
>>741982974>It could be that creating a dark world is "charring the garden"Probably.
>>741980748so what do you guys think is going to happen in the last 2 chapters considering toby has obviously planned this far ahead. the fever dream he had was specifically about the ending of deltarune as well
is this real or an edit
>>741982974The audience is the field, or so I think.Pink roses represent innocent adoration; the ones who bathe in the fire and enjoy the lapping of flame when it dances in front of them, regardless of the source. See: yurifagsYellow roses represent friendship, and betrayal; the ones who want to hurt and kill for being burned yet more, after expecting so little. See: anyone paying attention to Kris
>>741983203I mean Kris was having a panic attack after the normal version of the fightIt hit hard
>>741982670>[ A Ride around Town on Our Specil Cungadero]Bros we're getting our vessel and/or controlling the knight if the Kris/Noelle amalgam theory is real. Thank you Spamton I love you.
Yeah going over things again, Susie has been getting blackpilled from anything light world related. We don't know her exact circumstance but she likely comes from a poor and at least somewhat abusive household. She thought Toriel was a perfect mother, it was even her reasoning for being jealous of Kris. But then she saw Toriel drunk and dancing with Sans, and realized that wasn't true, Toriel wasn't perfect. And now she doesn't even want to be at Kris's house. At school everyone is scared of her. Catti hates her, she's new in town. The only thing she had was the Dark Worlds with Kris, but now after seeing the prophecy that's been tainted too. She learns she's the hero of a tragic prophecy, the Knight, the Roaring... She says herself in the Gerson fight that she doesn't want an ending, she wants the fun times to keep going forever. She latfches on to the one part of the Prophecy that seemed nice, The Girl Finding Love. So she goes all in on Noelle, thinking that it HAS to work out. But you can see hints that it won't. (Such as the hammer scene between them and Susie forcing it to work) In doing all this she ignores Kris.And I think after all this all Susie will want to do is sit in Castle Town forever unless we find a way to force her out.
>>741966891Weird Route flows way more like a dream too
>>741983275>Cungadero Knightcan we call it that
>>741983241100% real. They are going to turn Ralsei into a tranny
>>741975612I've been thinking since the chapter came out about what has, through all of that, Susie given in return.Not much. Pretty much just her presence. A couple of times during the adventures where she launches Kris as a way to solve the current puzzle/problem, but I don't actually remember Susie ever showing Kris anything she found cool out of her own initiative the way Kris leads her all around town showing her stuff... and the way Susie is now leading Noelle around showing her Kris' stuff.
>>741980039>>741981847>fat dyke discovers first hand how horrible the average lesbian couple is
>>741983221>things Toby put in Undertale a decade ago still being referencedThat's not a youtube theory, it's a blatant connection.
>>741983203Spamton in the normal route is defeated by the trio by the way. It means that even if you do everything and get Kris+Noelle into a new big BIGGER body, they'll still be just a puppet and die at the hands of Susie and Ralsei.
>>741983043Fair, I'll choose to keep thinking boy Kris.Because I like it more...
>>741983203>>741983267They followed the pointed tail.The tail that must not be followed.
>>741983118Why is she so serious in the shop though
>>741976661Kris... I will try and get you that date with Mew Mew, I swear. So long as she reappears later, I'll push for it.And if not, I'm getting you a Roaring instead.
>>741983241Anon...
>>741983385Show me where Gaster is named at all in the games without referring to datamines :^)
>>741983362this shit is actually creepygrown ass dude going to a character that looks like a little child going "you wanna put on the dress, don't you :)"Like no hyperbole this is giving me genuine groomer vibes and creeps me the fuck out, wtf Toby
Is it worth making a Dogwidow? It has 1 more def but you lose the ATK/Magic bonuses, not to mention a significantly worse downside than the Goldwidow.
>>741983365It's okay. Jockington can fix her.
>>741983467the music test in undertale.
>>741983241Its real but just a jokeRalsei is referred as a bimbo by Rules, does that make him trans?
>>741983417That's okay! To each their own!
>>741983168No it’s accurate Seth got groomed into being non-binary by the black tranny
>>741983241Flowery calls Ralsei a "him" and he's LovelyBOY in the secret fight btw, this is forced drama
>>741983467>>741983517ooooo yikes
Are we Gaster? Why does it say Insert Chapter 7?
>>741983467Gaster is referred to by name in Undertale, everyone knows this. In the Undertale sound test, there's Happy Town, Meat Factory, Trouble Dingle, and Gaster's Theme. We just got a track called Happy Town in Chapter 5.
>>741983518yeah yeah it's always just a joke, I know how it goes
>>741983241Can't wait for fem ralsei truthers to be vindicated after all those years. It's going to be fucking hilarious.
>>741983487Oh hey, we can probably use that as a means to cause some controversy and prevent it."Reminds me of Shayy" or something. That should be a caustic enough reference to nip anything like that in the bud.
>>741983527Kris looks cute
>>741983596You are retarded and letting yourself get mad at literal head-canon
>>741983363>>741982751At this point, I'm starting to feel people actually did ostracize Susie for a reason.
>>741983546Flowery is clearly being courteous enough to not oust her in front of her friends.
>>741983241Ralsei has an ACT called "LovelyBOY" in the Mew Mew fight. Quit with the tranny Ralsei shit, for people who hate trannies you sure do seem to want this to be true.
>>741983559He also referenced his famous halloween quote. It doesn't mean the final boss is dr andonuts
>>741983241>confused where the trans allegations were coming from>forgot that pink and and blue are apparently tranny colorsoh yeah
>>741983487>groomer groomer groomercan't wait until you people leave these threads in a week or so
>>741981185>its not a good idea to go under the lake with Noelle. Go alone
>>741983548It's basically saying, "This was still the plan. Regardless of what Noelle wanted. You have done nothing but move on a pre-determined path."The voice that lets you create your vessel is superceded by another voice, and from the text, it's likely Noelle who is tired of being "Noelle".
>>741983527>has a shirt that says dess rulezshe's SO narcissistic...
>>741983487Remember, Toby surrounded himself with people like gigi who gave us art such as picrel.
>>741983241Okay everything else can be passed as a joke but the "their" thing definitely raises some eyebrows. Woke people take their pronouns very seriously.
>>741983487ok but ralsei's already wearing a dress in the climbing minigame at the start of the chapter
It's funny how the "Toby is BASED" anons are coping lol
>>741983363flatsodaher brilliant smile, which seemed to banish the darkness.
>>741983764Hey, self love is important!
>>741983559We also got a track called "Inappropriate Recycling" that gives freedom theme (a variation of Gaster's theme btw) to K. RoundIt don't mean shit
>>741981246it's crazy how people thought he would ever be topped, but I never stopped believing
>>741979648>>741979778Alternatively, they chopped up Onion's limbs but kept them alive.
>>741983532Aww you silly Billy, but then the meme gets ruined and the funny gets drained from it!Trad doesn't fit with they/them mental illness.We don't need a clown school, do we?
>>741983786didnt this change apply to most or all item descriptions why is this single item screenshot the one being passed around
>>741964746>make a series of complex and layered ARG events>"wow dude arent you stupid for engaging with it"Return to Monkey island called, it wants its shit end back
>>741983595As someone who interpreted chapter 1's ending as Ralsei revealing he's actually a girl: Not like this!
>>741983203>the only three times in the game kris is actually disturbed outside of the weird route is>after fighting spamton>playing MANTLE>during the knight fight>all 3 of these foreshadow events in the future that not even the prophecy got as correct
>>741983487this is the least creepy thing Tobys written im sorry anon if this is you're figuring out Tobys always been a pedophile
>>741983727>susie has to keep moving towns because the second she gets comfortable she makes people want to murder her
>>741983817>it was an ntr smile the entire timesorry
>>741983737>>741983848If this was the only reference to Gaster there was in the game you'd have a point, but it's not. Gaster is clearly involved from the moment you first boot up chapter 1, and I'm not going to sit here explaining shit we've known for nine years to you.
>>741983898>"wow dude arent you stupid for engaging with it"that's not what happened???
>>741981667I feel like that's a bug since it explicitly shows you saving him in Chapter 4 even if you kill the titan spawn. Like chapter 5 just checks if you leveled up at all, it doesn't check recruits for if Jackenstein's alive.
>>741982751>post a while back that it seems weird how quickly Susie went from a "I'll literally kill you"-bully to an "omg moss thx Kris that's so random and epic"-buddy>get dogpiled by Susiefags claiming that she just had a good heart all along>ch5 drops and she acts like an egotistical bitch who was just using Kris to get what she wantsWell, would you look at that
>>741983517>>741983559>>741983945You will never see this in a normal playthrough of undertale without someone telling you about it and even when knowing about it, you have a 0.5% chance to see it.It doesn't mean anything.
>>741982670>>741983275>ominous_hell plays while drowning
>>741983938Brvtal
>>741983746I like how you're not even disagreeing with me
>>741983817I don't think the smile counts that much, it kinda falls under that spectrum of "She was gonna do that anyway because she's having fun in the adventures".The flatsoda... fair. Though it's not really that big of a gesture from her perspective since she had no idea what Kris was up to or what was happening to him. She was just bringing him a soda during a gaming break with Ralsei.
>>741984018okay newbuddy
>>741983487That one ralsus TERF was spot on when she said that trannies are obsessed with making every gender non conforming character trans purely to make themselves look better
>>741984018Because Gaster was always meant to be an easter egg in Undertale foreshadowing his next project (the project he actually wanted to make). Besides, fucking everyone has known about Gaster for years.
>>741981775Its not about caring about Kris, its about wanting to BE Kris, she's jealous.She lays on his bed, she wants to play with his toys (the darkners) by herself at night, she was jealous of Kris having Toriel and wanted him gone according to the sweepstakes (until she learned Toriel isn't perfect), she was jealous of Kris and Noelle before the story began.And now, Susie has everything he had, she doesn't need him anymore.
>>741983657Extremely so!
>>741983783cute femboy tummy!
>>741984031>>741978376Did gaster torture Jevil and Spmaton? Wtf.
>>741984053I'm not necessarily I just find this topic incessantly annoying. I don't need to rant every thread about how I find tranny shit annoying, I just accept this is the kind of game that's going to have it here and there so I ignore it and move on. There's nothing to talk about other than just saying "boy I hate them"
>>741983938>>741984043>it was an ntr smile the entire timeOh nonono
>>741983657Togore is great, no matter how butthurt Toby got.
Hey at least Asgore ended up being a pretty cool character
>>741983974Im saying as the hypothetical "fuck the lorefags" ending that OP was saying
>>741983945>weWho's we? The retard asylum?
>>741984163how did we get here
>>741984043I did always read the smile as a trauma cope smile. Susie is losing it and I think she's focusing on Noelle so hard because of what she saw in that last Prophecy. Probably something about her dying or something. Either way she's noticeably not doing well.
>>741982696What if Kris hid all his stuff because he knew Susie was gonna take it all away, due to the timeloop nature of the story?
>>741984064>>741984115You're just mad because your fan theories will amount to nothing and people like you are getting hyped over literally nothing. At best he'll be an easter egg from collecting all the eggs which gives you a little bit of lore.You know Toby is just going to troll the shit out of you and laugh for decades on end.
>>741983727>Susie's coping so bad even anons are turning against herLMAO
>>741984018>game makes it clear in the intro that the narrator is an actual character>this doesn't count because you might be too stupid to notice itretard
>>741983679Who cares it would be funny
Imagine if Toby’s intentionally trying to character assassinate Susie because the normal or weird route ends with you killing her and he didn’t expect people to like her so much
>>741984130So cute I could die
>>741983817>>741983938>>741984043>his brilliant smile, which seemed to banish the darkness.
>>741983448She knows this won't last for long
>>741984202"We" as in everyone who's been discussing this game for years. Anyone with half a brain can hear Gaster's theme in ANOTHER HIM.
>>741984267Wouldn't he try to make her as likeable as possible if that were the case? That's how tragedies are supposed to be written.
>>741984224>he thinks she's willingly focusing on noelle
>>741984278KEK
>>741984173Togore threatened Toby's love Chara
>>741984258>omg guys gaster is the bad guy cuz you gotta datamine undertale to learn about him and he is controlling everyone and making kris and noelle drown and we have to stop himlmao
>>741984043>I'm going to steal your childhood friend >I'm going to steal your role as the main character>I'm going to steal the castle townI can see it on her face!
>>741984229>collecting all the eggsI never said anything about Gaster being the forgotten man.
shadow crystals' actual power is the power of foreshadowing lolgerson was the only one that went "lol i don't need that for that"
>>741984043this image holds a completely different meaning nowgenuinely rape toby to death with a cheese grater
>>741980748SPAMTONGODS I KNEEL
>>741984031>Communion>Kris and NoelleOh shit
>>741983727NO SHIT I KEPT TELLING YOU PEOPLE FROM CHAPTER 1 YET YOU'RE SO FAR UP IN WAIFUISMFUCK
>>741984342>prophecy cope theory
>>741984278LMAO
>>741984162>There's nothing to talk about other than just saying "boy I hate them"But if someone says that, it's a problem
>>741984102I mean, the whole "egg cracking" meme is just a show of how they treat support for gender dysphoria as big game hunting where they gain points for every person they push to transition.I know you guys won't care much, but even within the actual queer communities people are really getting fucking sick of the whole egg bullshit for exactly this reason, because every time someone doesn't conform to gender stereotypes now there will always be a bunch of annoying fucks hunting them down and harassing them so they can later proudly brag about having a trans friend they supported into transitioning. Not only is it annoying by itself, it's just pure fucking horseshoe theory where they are harshly forcing other people to adapt to the sexuality and identity they decide for them and enforce labels on people that might not want them.
>>741984395I didn't either
>>741982751>susie initially confides that she was jealous of kris also being a weird outcast but generally liked and had a "good" home life>now suddenly its that she was asshurt because she thought kris was dicking down noelle>after her whole spiel about hating people who dont tell the whole storygaster strap me to a missile and start the roaring im ready
>>741984375>>I'm going to steal the castle townShe will not get away with this. Her name isn't even on it.
>>741984476Then why did you go out of your way to mention the eggs?
>>741980039the worst part is that kris/the player does nothing to provoke this, it's literally all on susie and noelle so you can't even justify it as the player being a cunt on purpose
>>741984162I'm genuinely just kinda shocked by this dialogue and needed to confirm this is realLike I know Toby is knee deep in fagshit (even though he lives in fucking japan and isolates himself from his rabid fagshit fanbase LMAO) but it gives me the actual creeps to see this and thought "surely even Toby wouldn't write something like this"
>>741984342>
>>741984373gaster is directly referred to in undertale's sound test menu. it's not something you can only discover through datamining.
>>741982334Maybe but I genuinely thought he was a shota, but I guess it never was.
>>741983727I guess we're going to slay a dragon, then.
>>741984342Either way there is distinct foreshadowing it won't work out.(See hammer fair game they do where Susie just forces the compatibility whereas Kris and Noelle ALWAYS do it perfect)
what the fuck are you guys talking about
>>741984402you cannot predict the future but you can vaguely point to it
>>741984278Gonna need a Susie edit of this right the fuck now
>>741982696>including the Susie award.You don't have the balls, Toby.
>>741984510easter eggs>>741984518You will never discover this without datamines or someone telling you about it.
>>741984273I wonder if any kid Kris comics they're making from now on will include Aqua's speech patterns.
>>741984342Coincidental.
>>741983515Reminder some snakes have 2 penises
>>741984278He could singlehandedly stop the roaring if he wanted to.
>>741984560>backpedaling this hardYou specifically said "collect all the eggs".
>>741983527>>741983764lmao I read it as "Deez" at first.
Slay the dragon And take back The [Girl]
>>741980748>>741981354You know maybe the guy saying mew mew and spamton should’ve swapped places was right. We’re not getting better than spamton
>>741984529And Noelle will be ungrateful we saved her, like in Live-A-Live, and take her own life
>>741983068>Chapter 6 is shorter because the three of them ran off to make a dark fountain without youHoly shit
>>741984473My man I'm just trying to impress upon you that tranny shit has been in the game since motherfucking chapter 1 and bringing it up as if it's new in chapter FIVE is tiring
>>741984278OUR HEROSUSIE
>>741984503Susie will rename the castle town in the next chapter.
>>741984648Who cares. It's not the real ending nor the real Noelle.
