a final nail in the coffin for game ownership
oh well
>>742015328
>>742015328>buy game>get told it's a RPG>it's patched so many times it becomes GTAVI>"what're you complaining for, it's the game you paid for"yeah okay, time to be angry
""ownership"" is a man made concept that doesn't actually exist
>>742015328The real reason they refuse to print disc copies eliminating the 2nd hand market and of course physical media around these parts get eventually hit 9 bucks for a game.These fuckers want to charge 60-80 bucks forever
>>742015694A shekel for a good goy
>>742015517Has this ever happened?
>>742015694Try and take a banana from a chimp and say that again.
>>742015328Oh well I guess i'll just pirate the PC version when it arrived.No disc no purchase.
>>742016317It'll probably have straight up malware DRM when it comes out on PC.I wouldn't put it past them to use 3 types of always online kernel level DRM at the same time when it inevitably comes to pc.
>>742016317Let's be real you would've pirated it regardless just be honest faggot
>>742016275bit racist
>>742016467as long as it's not using denuvo it's gonna be cracked day 1
>>742016512It'll probably pioneer whatever fresh new hell denuvo is planning now that their shit is getting cracked left and right with hypervisor.
It drives Rockstar crazy if people get the disc version early it happened with GTA 5 and RDR2, plus scalpers could hoard copies and fuck up the market too. Neither of those can happen with a digital only version.
>>742016479Nah
>>742016479I would have bought it for $50 with everything included if it had released day and date with the console versions.Getting released later already drops it down to $30 at most, but I'd probably only buy it for $5 at a discount.But they'll release this shit for $100 on PC after a year, so they can eat shit from a can.
>>742016689>plus scalpers could hoard copies and fuck up the market too. Neither of those can happen with a digital only version.Of course this can still happen. As long as they still include the physical maps.
>>742016689It literally fucking does, delisted games that are sought after have their activation keys rise in price. Look up poker night in the inventory 2 steam keys and get back to me
>>742015694Based
>>742016863GTA 6 ain't getting delisted in this lifetime
>>742016579rockstar never used denuvo but it might change with gta 6, who knows
>>742016863pirate it then, retard.
ps5 has risen to 85% digital in the last quarter and 78% for the fiscal year. the last holdouts will convert for gta6. it's over.
>>742016986>pirate it then, retard.I can also pirate games that collectors hoard and market at high values, your point?>>742016956Not my point.
I don't know what there is to even argue about. The game is $100. Where are you faggots getting the money for this garbage? Your parents? And don't say you work because everyone is well aware of the state of America and the world right now. Even if you're the biggest satanist with all the money in the world, paying $100 for a video game is retarded.
>>742015328>I can insert this pointless piece of plastic into my goybox!>If the massively pozzed megacorp decides to shut off the server it's basically a tea tray>But it's heckin' PHYSICAL AAAAAARGGGHHHHliterally kill these faggots. Also don't bother to reply if you don't pirate games.
>>742017156I'm black so I simply steal it.
>>742016732Based, do not pay full price for the sloppy seconds of console players.
>>742016689>plus scalpers could hoard copiesof what? a disc of a gta 6 is going to be worthless 5 minutes after comes out because gta 6 is going to get a trillion patches, addons, updates, etc. if you choose to reinstall the game from the launch disc in the future its just going to install and then download the entire game all over again and overwrite it because the contents of the disc are outdated.
>>742017206>frogposteryup, found the retard
>>742017156that's personal anon
>>742016732OY VEY MY THIRTY DOLLASthis is meshuggah
>>742017156>Where are you faggots getting the money for this garbage?people will unironically finance a 100 dollar game these days its that's far gone
>>742017389I fucking believe it. People were already crazy but after they let themselves be injected with those shots they got even more insane.
>>742017067>I can also pirate games that collectors hoard and market at high values, your point?what's YOUR fucking point
>>742016228yeah
>>742017156adjust for inflation. Other games charge 70 bucks and don't put in a fraction of the budget this game did. Why should a more premium product be exempt from charging more because it's a video game? Are you guys like buying up every AAA slop that comes out or something? I'm lucky if there's 3 games a year I even give a shit about
>>742015328Software ownership was sealed in its coffin, fully nailed and buried back in the 80s.Software was no longer a thing that you bought and could use however you wanted, it was now copyrighted, so instead you purchased a token and agreed to a license.They built a mall on top of the grave with the DMCA, which gave publishers more vague powers not granted by copyright just by slapping DRM on the software.>>742016228>Insert any 2010s game>>742017636>Adjust for inflationThese games were on cartridges, some games even came with coprocessors like the SuperFX chip, I don't see a 100$ modern game releasing with a GPU capable of running the game. This is the equivalent of the penny dreadful, not a hardcover book scribed and illustrated by hand.>Fraction of the budgetWasting money does not make the final product any more valuable if it is not reflected in that final product.>Why should a more premium product be exempt from charging more because it's a video game? Because it's transparently not a premium product, it includes none of the hallmarks of a premium product.
>>742017636I pay based on production values, not the amount of money that was spent in achieving those production values. If you fucking suck and you scrapped and restarted your game two years into development three times, that's not something I feel required to pay for.
>>742019945Wow, so you operate on a strictly medieval sense of economy then? Research and development doesn't exist, we just produce things in the same way we always to do get product?
>>742020070It's not medieval, if what you produce is equivalent to the best games of the current time, I will pay you what I pay for those other games. The minor-league baseball league AAA, AA shit ain't hard to understand but people seem to think that the difference in the leagues is about how much the teams pay for their roster when they should be thinking about the quality of baseball that roster budget produces on the field. Yeah they're connected but they're not the same thing and you focus on the production values rather than the budget that got you there.
>>742017636>leave the billion dollar corporation alone...!
>>742020446>It's not medieval, if what you produce is equivalent to the best games of the current timeAnd how did things develop to be our current level of technology?Do you believe that you deserve the unmodified price because you are the main character, and nothing should ever improve past the standards of today?
>>742015328Every console nigger I know said they won't buy it without the disk, you need to understand that consolefags are ultimate poorfags and they won't buy something they can't resell when they are low on cash or there is new toy out.
>>742015328Another flag raised for sailing. We're about to enter another golden age of piracy one way or another.
>>742017067His point is you can fucking play it you deliberately retarded fuck.
>>742015946Ah, following the Nintendo route I see
>>742020881Anon you can't keep giving people mario and sonic alone for three decades. They have to advance game design and advance technology because that's the cost of being AAA game devs and the cost of that isn't our burden as gamers. You spend the money and you get more sales, not you spend the money and charge your fewer customers more.
>>742021185First party nintendo is all physical.Fuck, even those shitty GKCs are resellable.
>>742021181>something something im transwatch your tone you fucking troon
>nooo this game installed on my hard drive that i can unplug and put in a box is not the same as this game installed on this arbitrary disc that i can put in a box
>>742021919digitalcucks are so retarded its unreal
>>742015328Oh no!!!! Plastic piece of junk bros, not like this!!!
>>742021919It isn't though. If the disc breaks, or if the machine designed to work with the disc and only the disc stops working, you're fucked. The game installed on your hard drive doesn't stop existing if the drive crashes, you just redownload it.
>>742016228Every "RPG" with an open world
>>742022073Name one.
>>742022032>Oh no!!!! Plastic piece of ju-ACKKK!!
I'm not fundamentally opposed to digital copies. They just have to accept that I'll never pay the same for a digital one as I would have paid for a physical copy.60€ for a physical copy is something I am willing to pay.with a digital one, maybe 40€ if I really really want to play it, but most likely I'll just wait for a sale and pay 30 at most. if it never goes on sale, I'll either just skip it or pirate it.
>>742022073Name one RPG game that wasn't open world on release but was later updated/patched to be an open world game.
>>742017636you cannot argue about this with me because I'm the customer.if I say my pain threshold is $70 at most, it doesn't matter what garbage you spool off about production value and marketing costs or inflation or whatever.I told you my maximum and that's it.you can obviously ignore it, since I'm just a single costumer (well, a hypothetical customer, kek), so it's whateverbut there is no point in arguing about it. I don't give a shit what the company paid for it, that's their problem.
>>742022127Why do you pretend they can't do this with discs?
>>742022432Because if you can run the disc offline they literally cannot do this.
>>742022549>if you can run the disc offlineCan you?
I spend about $10000 per year on physical media and not a single cent on digital. And there are a lot of people like me out there. If game companies don't want my money, then so be it.
>>742022432They can't>murr brick your consoledoesn't happen>murr online serversif you play online games, you deserve it>murr hard drivea hard drive will break and corrupt overtime
>>742022592Yes, you can use the discs offline for more than 90% of PS5 titles.
>>742022348that's fine they don't need your money. You're just objectively being a whiny cunt. Everything else has ballooned in cost, but the most expensive game of all time can't possibly be priced the same as a nintendo game.
>>742024372>they don't need your moneyno issue then. they won't get my money, and they don't want it anyway.
>>742024372>they don't need your moneyI'm sure Ubisoft were thinking that a few years ago too
>>742017067that only applies to games available on disc or other physical means, a code to simply download something is a piece of paper or not even that - buy a game online and you get an email or just a cart display. The stupid thing of this you could actually have people putting this on discs - burning a GTA6 image of the discs and selling them for collectors along with the available cases and maps.
>>742025323I just think you're being dramatic man
>>742015328writing & image editing
funny that everyone was doomposting/begging for Rockstar to raise the price and instead GTA will go down in history as having killed physical and ownership in the same week Sony just removes paid content from peoples accounts.You have to ask yourself why they bother to sell a box at all, but even they know it would hurt sales otherwise, so this is just a transitioning phase.
>>742028347>funny that everyone was begging for Rockstar to raise the priceliterally no consumer was doing this
>>742016228there is probably a more extreme example but Skullgirls changed shit like a decade past release.There are plenty games that changed mechanics, themes, primary game modes and such.Fortnite turning from a zombie survival shooter into a Pubg clone is probably one of the biggest examples
>>742016689you saying all of this is my buddy's fault for acquiring a PS3 copy of gta 5 a week before the official release date back in the day?
people actually give a sht about GTA? shit hasnt been important since the playstation 2
>>742015456correct. he does not own the IP; he cannot mass-print the content of these DVDs and distribute them and most importantly, charge money for them. good on youdigital only is no problem. they will only usher in digital resellable licenses (sooner) kekgta 6 will get away with it but it won't be much longer keketwo more weeks, guaranteed
