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>We NEED your help Star fox!
>Andross has declared war!
You really can't beat the original voice acting
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>>742029847
Brevity is a lost art.
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>>742029847
Are you gonna listen to that Dog?
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>>742030432
Why is falco so racist?
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>You really can't beat the original voice acting
I think it's just the new VAs are just hilariously bad and don't even deliver their lines appropriately. Especially the bosses who are dying
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>>742031572
This, but also it's this>>742030324
There are too many unnecessary added lines. Half the game time is a fucking movie now, and since the characterization and dialogue is atrocious, it highlights how bad the voice acting is.
Speaking of which, why come nobody ever mentions the voice CASTING and DIRECTOR? The VAs might be bad, but somebody cast them, and then sat in a booth and directed them. This faggot shit starts at the top.
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I’m on my way to McDonalds
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This seems pretty cheap for saving the galaxy
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Does shooting down Slippy on Sector X automatically make you go to Titania or do you have to sit on the boss for a few minutes? They removed the ability to go to Titania if you earned Sector Z or MacBeth and I have medels to grind for.
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>>742031936
Why does Fox sign shit with his paw (foot) print?
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>>742031956
it's always waiting like a minute or so in the second phase of that robot boss, even on N64
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>>742031758
It feels like everyone is just too scared to go for it and I think that's on both the director and the actors. Everyone should be hamming it up, everyone should be screaming their lungs out, everyone should be having fun. It's Star Fox for fuck's sake.
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why did they cut the monkey part
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>DONATU PARUTEE JUSTO YETTU
ARAS, I DIE HONURRABRY
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>>742032072
I sat on the first phase for 5 minutes on my first remake run to make myself do the bad ending so will sit on second phase when I do Titania medal hunting.
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>>742032223
it's racist
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>>742031758
There is absolutely some level of fault with the voice directors. The Saurmarine pilot and forever train conductor are voiced by the same guy and even if the Saurmarine pilot isn't the best performance its still much better than his performance as the conductor (and like the only one in game to actually TRY and do an accent).
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>>742032284
But the bad guy is a monkey…
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>>742032335
I feel like at some point the shitty American voice acting directors got it stuck in their craw that accents are bad and everyone sticks to General American.
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its so sad, the game is a joy to play and the new visuals gives it a satisfying sense of speed I didn't really feel in the original. The voice direction almost went out of its way to be as bland as possible
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>>742032159
Nintendo is a AAA company. They should be getting the best in the business, but they somehow still treat their dubs even worse than 4Kids. Not even obscure old anime games got worse dubs than modern Nintendo. OOT Remake is going to be a cringeworthy mess. Princess Ruto will sound like a 40 year old chainsmoker with 10 tatts. And language options? LMAO
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>>742032390
i know that.
it's like calling a human "human".
it's not racist at all, but they connect it with "calling a black person a nigger". at least that's what i believe.
otherwise, why else would they remove that specific line?
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>>742030624
It's a trait many residents of the Lylat system share due to the history of the system itself and its lax laws on the topic.
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Game has the tone and atmosphere (and voice acting) of Paw Patrol.
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>>742032596
It's kinda fucked up the one racist line to make it to the remake was fucking Andrew's froggie one. I guess his racism is on another level.
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>>742032775
Once again Andrew gets special nepotism treatment
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>>742032775
frogs are not being associated with apes(who are most commonly seen as blacks)
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>>742032775
Even in our post-racial society, Anglos still hate the French.
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>>742032870
They are however associated with the French. Which is ok, nobody likes them.
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>>742032870
>it's okay to be xenophobic towards the french
based
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>>742032775
Well they added a few because Peppy now calls Pigma "swine" multiple times.
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>>742032925
>>742032921
exactly
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>>742032936
That was in the OG
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU DESTROY EVERY VULNABLE PART OF THE GRANGA IN CORNARIA'S CHALLENGE MODE? I keep trying and it just dies to fast.
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>>742032390
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>>742033067
OG Peppy never reacts to Star Wolf.
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>>742033171
He only takes damage from his back so just don't shoot him in the back.
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Speaking of Andrew, man it's weird to see how much his nose has shrank over the various games.
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>>742032159
And you also got morons trying to gaslight people by going "oh this new game is more true to the Japanese version of 64 and that's why it's so subdued and not over the top".

Meanwhile JP SF64 is often MORE over the top than the English dub.
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>>742032596
>can't you translate Falco
>come on talk some sense into it or something
WTF Slippy?!
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>>742029847
>like 12+ vtuber heads of cast
>no further unlockables in Battle Mode
Bill, Katt, Yaru and some the boss dudes would have been nice for further selection padding on teams
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>>742032596
>Out of all these examples, the most racist one is Slippy telling Falco to talk to the bird thing.
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Fox! That's on of ours!
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>>742033431
Falco even calls him out on it and he keeps doing it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaJLzlN6thY
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Most of the voices are at best serviceable but man… what the fuck did they do to Leon? Bloody terrible
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>>742033297
I meant the word Swine
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The voice acting was great, snoy schizos are poor.
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>>742033534
>make a racist statement
>get called out for it
>double down
Who knew Slippy was so based...
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>>742033635
Leon's VA is one of the best ones, whats your problem?
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>>742033694
>tripfag has no taste
figures.
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The voice acting is insanely bad in the remake. How the fuck is modern voice acting so bad? Most games for the last 6 or 7 years have had really bad voice acting. You either get cringey anime weeb voice acting or you get flat wooden voice acting. Its very rare these days for a game to actually have memorable good voice acting.
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Spyborg sounds like Pat from SNL now.

https://youtu.be/cH7orJ1AwEk?t=316
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>>742033882
I wanted an interactive Star Fox movie with lengthy and complex gameplay, and I got exactly what I wanted.

I got a Star Fox for ME.

Remember when I said I wanted a Star Fox for me, before the game was announced?

I got what I wanted.

I won this one.
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>>742033791
My problem is sounds literally nothing like the original voice he had. It’s generic as fuck too
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>>742034050
>Remember when I said
I have no idea who you are
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>>742034070
Other Anons know.
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I wonder how much of this sort of shit voice acting is down to the voice acting director. Because the Remake of FF7 Crisis Core had terrible voice acting but some of the characters in the game are voiced by the exact same people in Remake or Rebirth and they sound much better in Remake or Rebirth than they do in Crisis Core Remake and the only difference is that the voice acting director was a different person for Crisis Core Remake than it was for FF7 Remake and Rebirth.
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>>742033367
Seriously, I played SF64 with the Japanese dub recently and Peppy is angry as hell
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>>742033791
Why do you think that? He sounds weak and ineffectual to me, compared to his 64 voice which was suave and professional sounding.
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You can't recreate the kino voice acting of that time.
People weren't afraid to hire literal nobdies and take a colossal chance. The guy who did pepper probably only read his granddaughter bedtime stories before doing Vidya acting. The people who are saying the voice acting is bad are wrong though. It's really not. It's just safe. VERY safe.
Trying to recreate 64 isnt the answer either though because you'd definitely over shoot.
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>>742034050
anon, it's an on rail arcade shooter and nothing has changed.
giving it extra fluff like the cutscenes didn't make it any better, it got worse.
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>>742034050
>Remember when I said I wanted a Star Fox for me, before the game was announced?
Why would anyone remember what you say?
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>>742033791
The vibe is completely wrong. In the original he sounds like a haughty professional. In the remake he sounds like a generic scheming cartoon lizard.
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Its because Californian's are bad at voice acting and all lazy retards.
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>>742032596
>A fox... taking orders from a dog. Is that really how you want to live your life, boy?
Damn, that's actually a cool line. But I think that's a line like that would get adjusted cause of the "boy" part. Katt in the remake avoids any way to call herself a girl. When falco gets upset when you first meet Katt it goes from
>Is that anyway to treat a girl?
to
>I just wanted to check out your gang.
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>>742034418
shit, wrong link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chKqZv9ADbA
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>>742033347
Will try. Switched to knocking out Boise challenges for now.

Can you earn medals in Challenge mode?
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>>742034569
No,
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>>742033635
Playing with the different languages, the french version really goes all out with Leon. It isn't the chill professional vibe like the n64 one, but it's funny how he went out to make it sounds more "lizard-like" in the remake, even giving it a lisp.
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Lol

>>742034647
Jesus Christ, what the fuck were they thinking?
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https://youtu.be/IH8POc5iS_I
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>>742034752
Dunking on Andrew is the universal language.
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>>742034231
It did make it better, though.
I actually played Star Fox 64 last night, and it felt like there was stuff missing that made the experience feel... a bit empty.

I understand that everyone enjoyed Star Fox 64 because it is a good game by itself.
However, I struggled on Corneria in Star Fox 64 because the graphics were of lower quality, so the enemies were harder to aim at, there wasn't an option to invert the y-axis, and I kept forgetting that it wasn't inverted while aiming the laser, and the controls were more stiff, making it more difficult to turn around quickly during the Corneria boss.

When I played Star Fox 2026, the controls were accessible, and easier to get a hang of.
Every time I beat a mission, I smiled as I watched all of the Star Fox characters congratulate eachother, and I enjoyed looking at the beautiful visuals.
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I didn't expect a run to be so short. Are the other starfox games just as short or are they longer?
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>>742034251
Well the 4 snoy schizos love to go back and take my previous words out of context, twist them, and then weaponize them against me.
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>>742034854
The way he says "breaks" gives me the impression that he's literally hitting the breaks as he said that. It's insane how lifeless this sounds in the remake.
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>Haven't played 64 in ages but figured I'd be able to breeze through this
>Getting absolutely filtered by Gorgon
I feel like such a pathetic schlub right now.
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>>742035131
It's just as long as 64.
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>>742033367
I wonder how Japanese Andross is handled/went over. Daisuke Gori played him almost emotionless, so that the anger in his final line would really come out by comparison. The angrier, shouting Andross the remake has is the complete opposite of that.
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>>742032048
you dont sign stuff with your foot? bro...
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>>742035373
I know I'm asking about any of the others.
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>>742031572
>>742031758
>>742032159
>>742032335
>>742034004
What is this new cope that the voice acting is "bad"? Is that how you spin the usual NDS since this game is actually good gameplay-wise? Gripe about the voice acting as if you don't listen to everything in JP anyway? Do they make you "people" on an assembly line?
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>>742034460
I wouldn't be surprised if some power tripping blue-hair either at the studio or a consultancy firm insisted that they not have Katt's gender ever brought up because their headcanon is that Katt is nonbinary.
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>>742034272
Professional Leon was a localization original just like Bond villain Wolf. He was always meant to be a sadistic dirtbag.
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>>742035694
I wouldn't be surprised if you're schizophrenic
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>>742035734
Sometimes the localization is better.
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Why did they even let him in the Wolfen II?
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The voices aren’t bad. They’re just soulless. There’s no twang or cockiness to anything. Compare the DONT PARTY JUST YET to the original. It’s so bland because they basically said “yeah just talk normal” vs GET COCKY AND SMUG
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>>742035830
See
>>742034752

Thus Andrew was kicked out the second Andross was defeated.
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>>742035574
The games are short. I think the only "long" campaign is Adventures
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>>742035734
Liar.
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>>742031758
This is a full on corporate-level Nintendo problem.
Any Voice Actor that's worth their salt joins the Union. Nintendo refuses to play ball with unions nowadays, so they're stuck with literal-whos and youtubers.
It's why we'll never see a Kid Icarus Uprising remake, unless it's personally handled by Sakurai. He hired Union workers, and Nintendo won't go back to them on their own.
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>>742034854
STEP ON THE GYAS
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>>742034460
>Damn, that's actually a cool line. But I think that's a line like that would get adjusted cause of the "boy" part.

That one's from Star Fox Zero.
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>>742035830
He is the definition of a nepobaby. His dad hired Star Wolf and his crew. To keep the boss happy, Wolf took his son as a crew member.
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>>742036009
I meant if that line were to ever come back, the gender part would be removed.
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>>742032596
here's your culprit
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>mass reply meltdown
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>>742035734
He has the exact same professional way of speaking in Japanese
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>Voice acting from the 90s is better than 2026
Grim
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>>742033635
They made him like how he is in Assault and Command. I miss the posh voice but I guess I'm okay with this for continuity's sake
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>>742036049
I mean considering the lore it was also mandatory to have him as a crew member to be kept supplied and well paid
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>>742036116
>hot wheels
>larry boy
based
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>>742036116
Kek.
I love it.
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>>742036156
>>742035936
He does not talk like a professional. He's just arrogant. Outside his ego, his main thing is being sadistic.
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>>742033635
There's no testosterone left in the american VA industry.
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>>742035072
>a tripfag is retarded and has shitty opinions
I have never been less surprised.
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>>742036324
leon's polish?! kurwa
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>>742036324
I mean, he literally says "I think I'll torture you for a bit" in the English 64. Seems like consistent characterization.
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To me the new voice acting is a mixed bag of good and bad deliveries. Most of the bad lines are the mid combat stuff, the cutscene lines seem mostly fine. The only standout bad casting to me is making ROB gay sounding for whatrver reason. Let's be real though, pretty much every single line of 64's OG dub is legendary. They were never going to live up to it.
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>>742034854
i can't STOP IIEEET!!
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>>742036242
That's what I was referring to.
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>>742036324
Forgot to mention that if the localizers of the 90s had this guidebook back then,we never would've gotten some of the voice direction that became legendary, yet out of step with later continuity.

>>742036394
Remake Leon is still sadistic. Boasting about how Andross doesn't mind if he makes a mess and talking about plucking Falco's feathers.
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>>742029847
>>742031572
nah, the uncompressed VA of the original is fucking excellent.
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>>742030324
They added more words to lines that didn't need it.
They removed nuances of sarcasm and anger, so characters can be more bland and straight forward.

They changed some tones entirely, to remove tension and energy from scenes with dumb Marvel quips.

In doing so, they made it more sterile, and less memorable.
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>>742036373
No I'm not.
My opinions are good.
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I hope the remake does well enough for them to do Star Fox 2. It'd be nice to play it at more than 12FPS.
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>>742036049
>Wolf took his son
Confirmed as never played the game.

>UNCLE ANDROSS!
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>monkey clan so blindly loyal to their tribe they support a genocidal maniac simply for also being a monkey
Biting social commentary
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>>742036926
>Andross built a secret remote base on an inhospitable planet to rally his forces
Hey, I’ve seen this one!
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>>742036840
Son/Uncle, same difference. Surprised it took so long for someone to notice.
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>>742036713
If they did remake SF2 they'd probably remove permadeath.
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>>742037085
there should be permadeath to punish shit players
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>>742036926
I think his army were already criminals in the past
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Doing a Medal clean up run. Going from Sector Y to Titania will be an increasing decrease in competence.
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>>742037359
The monkeys being career criminals is also funny.
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>>742036926
I dont even understand how there could be andross sympathizers. The guy got the death penalty but literally was spared with life in prison.

To join andross meant to join his shithole which after many years still doesn't sustain a single conventional city. Maybe the lore makes more sense if andross managed a prison break on a space ship full of monkies or something, giving them a chance at revenge on corneria
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>>742032048
Retarded westerners and their paw fetish, consistency and worldbuilding be damned
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>>742036373
>anon has shit opinion
"fuck off retard"
>tripfag has shit opinion
"REEEE TRIPFAG REEEEEEEEEEE"

What is it about the tripfag that makes the anon upsetti spaghetti?
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Yes, everyone was losing their shit about the character designs, but the voices were off from the get-go. They sound like typical "anime" voice actors. Not bad, but not nearly as iconic as the old crew.
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>get a cool yet realistic robot voice in the og game
>they kept it for the 3ds remake
>now he got a faggy brocoly hair intern voice
Biggest character destruction to ever happen in vidia history.....
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>>742037581
Andross actually made Venom worse. It wasn't so toxic until after he showed up. As for why he has sympathizers? He was once well respected in Corneria. Maybe he spun some crap about how those mangy mutts of Corneria didn't like to see an ape like him be successful and framed him?
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>>742031936
>This seems pretty cheap for saving the galaxy
The game takes place pre-Biden.
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>>742037670
Because 4chan is meant to be anony.ous. Being anonymous means that you have no "reputation" built up, and thus your posts are judged entirely by their own merits and not based on any kind of posting history. By giving yourself a trip, you are attempting to establish yourself as a "character" on the board. It's faggot narcissist behavior.
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>>742037721
Every character is

>*Iconic VA performance*
>*Recreate it in the 3DS remake*
>*Bring back all the original voice cast for Zero*
>Completely fuck it all up in the third remake

Like actually how
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>>742029847
>made by literal indian dev team
lmao
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>>742037745
Andross basically set off a nuke on Corneria and killed a fuck ton of people. It would have to be one hell of a spin job for anyone to actually fall for it.
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>>742036538
>Remake Leon is still sadistic.
Him being sadistic or not isn't really what people are referring too I think. One of the most jarring things about Leon is his demeanor and appearance from after 64 to assault and onwards. Like an anon said, it was because the English was never given actual direction for how they should be voicing the characters so they just made shit up, but in Leon's case it was a real whiplash from him being a pompous, egotistical snob in 64, to him being to him becoming a maniacal, over trigger happy, creep. Did the remake choose the snob version or the maniac version of him?
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>>742037985
Just say he didn't do it. Say it was Pepper and he set up a frame job. Modern politics have shown you can get far just by never admitting fault and having an alternative story you claim is the truth.

>>742037989
Maniac. Fox even calls him a creep now if you shoot him down yourself.
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Every character in the new Star Fox 64 re-remake got the anime dub treatment.

Only anime dub watchers would think that's a good thing.
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>>742037985
I think DA LORE in the new game admits that the toxic atmosphere COULD be due geographical changes and not Andross

I kinda suspect it is something like this,.

>Andross Illegal Bioweapon is revealed and runs amok on Corneria.
>Gets foisted full responisbillity.
>EXECUTE HIM!
>Pepper argues for Banishment to a then Non-Toxic Venom.
>Option A: Venom has Ecological Disaster and the Atmosphere becomes Toxic.
>Option B: Andross, still doing mad Science, causes the Toxic Atmosphere.
>Regardless: Andross spins himself as working on fixing the Atmosphere.
>Venomians rally behind him and Krystal gets fuel for her stupid "ANDROSS DID NOTHING WRONG!" line.

I think the interesting thing her is actually how things are more blatant with Lylat just being the system and the conflict seemingly being isolated to it while still affirming there is a whole Galaxy with players outside it where Corneria still has a presence, the Galaxy at large probably doesn't give a fuck and just see this as a Civil War.
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>>742030324
It's lost everywhere. Been playing through Adventures of Elliot. Gameplay-wise, it's a great Zelda/Ys/whatever clone. But the story tries to be way overly theatrical and narrative heavy when it's a basic world. They didn't understand that something like Links Awakening had just enough story to match the world.
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>>742038643
To be fair, many JRPGs always had a problem with dialogue going on and on and on and on..
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Got the Titania medal now I never need to let Slippy die again unless I can be bothered with Expert mode medals.
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Venom 1 seems impossible to medal if you don't enter with a fuck ton of bombs so will have to run easy end again saving them and thus not getting medals.
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>>742039290
You can do it with judy 3. You just have to spam a lot of charge lasers without lockon and get splash points.
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>>742036713
slippy looks like he goons on company time
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>>742037745
Lizard people were on Venom. Probably came off like Cortes to Aztecs, but had them under his thumb. For the others, he had many connections before exile, he probably had NGOs or his staff secretly keep him funded. With that, he got mercenaries, and anti-dog monkeys. I think they took control of the Corporations of Macbeth, which built him his army.
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>>742037721
>>742037971
Who got it worse: Shogun or Forever Train
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>>742039290
If you want to get to Venom 1 with bombs you can always farm them on Sarumarine and then just choose to go to Venom 1 from either Sector Z or Macbeth.
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>>742040040
Shogun. The conductor at least kept his personality.
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>>742040040
Neither is good, but it depends on whether you hate the bad voice direction of the engineer or them completely rewriting the shoguns personality.
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>>742040095
I might. I have the Titania medal now so I was going to do the middle route going to Boise from MacBeth to see if I can get those medels without bombs first. If not then do that since that will let me see Katt help on Macbeth for once.
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>>742029847
The worst example is when you beat Corneria with a mission accomplished rank. The boss asks "Who are you guys?!" and Fox responds with "We're Star Fox" in the original but the new version is completely soulless and lacks any punch.
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>>742040040
>>742040242
>>742040246
Shogun is fucking terrible. "An honorable defeat..." or whatever. I just stared at my Switch with disappointment.
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>>742040294
The ending having Peppy and Fox throw in an extra "you know, your father would be proud of you today. VERY proud."/"I know" is worse. It both undercuts the already there "...Nothing. Nothing's wrong" and is literally repeating what the escape sequence already said barely a minute ago.
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>>742041498
I think the idea was that after spending all game being against comparisons with his dad (Calling James's time with Star Fox ancient history and saying "some help it did him" when Peppy says Fox has his father's instincts), Fox finally accepts Peppy's words as the compliments they were meant to be.
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>>742041498
I don't like how Star Wolf doesn't have their cybernetic enhancements on Venom, either.
>>742041918
I did appreciate the character development, somewhat. Falco had similar lines with Fox that culminated with him finally believing in Fox at the end, calling him "the real deal"
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>>742042038
>I don't like how Star Wolf doesn't have their cybernetic enhancements on Venom, either.
They do but only if you take the deliberate route of beating them in Fichina, then going to Venom through Area 6 afterwards. If Venom 2 is the first time you fight them they won't have them. Also they replaced Andrew's visor with a neckbrace to show how much of a bitch he is.
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>>742042038
Star Wolf no longer has cybernetic enhancements. They are just bandages, prosthetics, and braces. And they only get them if you beat them in Fichina first, and then take a path to Venom 2.
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>>742042236
>>742042426
Oh, that makes sense. I only played through the hard route so far.
>The brace
Kek, Andrew just can't catch a break.
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>>742030432
>>742029847
>>742031572
I think it's that we replayed 64 over and over so much that those lines are burnt into our brains, so if they're out of pitch or tone its because they don't line up in our brain.
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Cute
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>>742042763
lol, I appreciated that when I was playing through Aquas for the first time
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>>742042426
Leon and Pigma's certainly look cybernetic. Not as much as 64's though for sure.
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>>742042426
Wolf, Leon and Pigma are all pretty much exactly how they looked in the N64 version. Wolf didn't have any enhancements, only two bandages. Leon had the same single eye visor. Pigma had some metal parts on the top and sides of his head.
Andrew the only one who looks different, in the N64 he had a visor which looks a lot like the top part of his braces.
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How hard would it be for them to add a classic mode that has the old N64 style stage intros and uses the old voice lines?
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>>742042763
>109 hits
You gotta pump those numbers up, anon.
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>>742035830
There’s a new line where wolf says something like
>”COVER ANDREW, BOYS. WE KNOW WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM”
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>>742042904
I will eventually. Might to hard up to Zoness then switch to MacBath to see Katt helping there.
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>>742043034
Yup I heard it. Pretty funny. I do like how a lot of the lore from manuals and player guides were added to the game.
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I'm actually pleasantly surprised. I mainly go on other boards but I decided to come on /v/ to talk about this game and it's nice to see that most of the discussion is on topic. No one is getting called a "Switchsnoy" or whatever retarded buzzword if they criticize the game, which it definitely deserves, even if I enjoy it. The voices and lack of feedback when shooting something are my biggest complaints, and I see I'm not the only one with issues regarding the voice acting.
>>742043079
Remember that you have infinite torpedoes and that the columns of the ruins count as hits.
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>>742042687
nah the macbeth train boss is such a massive downgrade compared to n64 version.
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Landmaster sections are ass
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>>742043283
I don't even think it's that because sound effects and music just don't sound like the n64 game either. Its like listening to the Mario 64 - Mario Kart World music. My brain does not respond like the original.
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>>742043384
faithful to the original
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>>742043148
It's unfortunate because the main cast does have decent sounding voice actors, but the direction just kinda sucks. They needed an improved script and to put more emotion in delivering a few lines.
The villains is where things really go to shit, it's full of bad voice actors and bad directing. Some motherfuckers are supposed to be extra hammy to be memorable.
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>>742043542
If I had to guess, the voice director was probably afraid of the new cast doing bad impressions of the N64 dub. So they intentionally directed them to do takes that sounded more distant than the N64 one.

It did happen before with Star Fox 3DS where they brought a lot of the actors back just to read the same lines and they couldn't match their prior selves.
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>>742043148
/v/ is somehow one of the better places to discuss Nintendo. All my Discord servers are full of people who throw a tism fit if you mention Nintendo because Palworld and the anti-hack stuff means they brick your Switch 2 if it decides it doesn't like the way you blinked at it.
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>>742043542
The voice acting isn't bad, it just isn't as impactful as the original. And yeah, I agree that the cheesiness being removed definitely impacted some scenes.
>>742043820
I also think it was to appeal to a new generation of fans which don't have the nostalgia for the original.
>>742043980
That's not what I've seen. I'm on PC and Nintendo and I get called a Snoy or Steamie anytime I come on here to praise a PC game or criticize a Nintendo game. I don't even believe there are actual Playstation fans on /v/, since most of them are normalfags playing shit like FIFA or COD.
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>>742043820
suspect this is the problem
the rest of the game is great so I can forgive the mediocre VA
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>>742032670
Chase best boy
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>>742044051
>The voice acting isn't bad
Everyone sounds bored while they're in the middle of warzones.
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Love it or hate it I just hope it does well enough to convince Nintendo to make more of them. Star Fox is too iconic of a game to end up on the IP scrap heap.
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>>742044837
I guess it's just out of place? It doesn't bother me too much like Zelda's VA in BotW and TotK.
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The Zoness boss keeping the pirate voice is the only performance on par with 64.
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>>742043542
Bosses not getting death yells AND the understated explosions really hurt
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>>742034050
what happened to Jesus telling you about the next 3D Mario announcement in a direct
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I'm actually liking the cutscenes more than I thought, but one thing that bothers me is how it seems like Fox is always cutting off General Pepper at the end of their discussions. I guess it's kinda funny actually but Idk. He's a merc so a salute is too much but some kind of formal goodbye would be more appropriate I think. Fox seems more rude in this remake.
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>>742045475
The player's deaths also are really subdued, in the original you would crash and explode followed by your teammate screaming out "NOOOO" (or Fox screaming if he is alone), now they just are like "This can't be happening" the instant your HP bar hits zero before Fox's Arwing even blows up, and Fox doesn't yell anymore at all.
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>>742037581
I read some of the lore entries in the new game. Some of these guys had nothing to do with Andross until he started his assault. The Granga pilot is literally just a domestic terrorist who happened to have a mech when he got a call from Andross.
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I like the idea that andross legitimately loves his nephew and is setting him up with the best star pilots and gear he can afford because he himself never got all the attention he wanted
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What little I watched of the remake, they changed the dialog for the worst. Falco is much less of a snarky smart ass which makes him pretty boring.
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>>742043034
You REALLY get the sense that Wolf and Leon only tolerate Pigma and Andrew with the added dialogue and lore.
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>>742045794
I don't know.
My personal leaker told me not to worry about it.
I'm going to guess that maybe it will get announced in a September, October, or November mainline Direct that will cover games releasing later than Spring 2027, or it will get its own surprise Direct.
I'm guessing it will be announced in the former, and then get the latter 1-2 months before its release.

I'm putting speculating about its reveal date off to the side, and trying to and succeeding at getting invested in other franchises, like Star Fox.
TomoDacHi Life: Living the Dream will keep me busy too.
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>>742045253
I like how he goes out.
>Curse you Starrrrrrrrrrrr Fox!
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>>742046535
The fact that the "Gee I've been saved by Fox, how swell" is still in the game verbatim, but has been made dull and emotionless as fuck shows how bad the VA direction is, how does a take that bad end up in the game?
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>>742031758
Most voice acting casting and directing is done by a small handful of established VAs, contributing to the closed, circular ecosystem of most English VA work these days.
It makes sense to use experienced people in the industry to do it, but contributes to how bad things have gotten, since it's all favoritism, favors, and circle jerks.
This is why grabbing random theater and drama students doesn't really happen anymore, that threatens the closed ecosystem of VAs that are in everything now
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>>742046535
What are you talking about? He's even more of a cunt than usual.
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I like Fox being in it for the money.
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>>742031956
You only go to Titania if Slippy is swatted by Spyborg.
Killing slippy means Macbeth.
You WILL wait 5 minutes to go to Titania, because Nintendo was scared zoomers couldn't press the A button like 30 times in 15 seconds.
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Bill without the surfer dude voice is weird.
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>>742029847
>Dull zesty anime voice acting
>Lines changed for literally no reason and lost all the charm
>The few that remained are delivered with barely any emotion behind them
>Faggy ROB 64

Who the fuck is to blame for this disaster? These are so-called professional voice actors and yet, not ONE could do better than some randos they hired 30 years ago.
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>>742046751
The new version has some real "talk fast to match the lip flaps" energy with how little time to breathe he has
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>>742045906
>I'm actually liking the cutscenes more than I thought, but one thing that bothers me is how it seems like Fox is always cutting off General Pepper at the end of their discussions. I guess it's kinda funny actually but Idk. He's a merc so a salute is too much but some kind of formal goodbye would be more appropriate I think. Fox seems more rude in this remake.

You should wait til you see the true ending cutscene then, lol.
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>>742047120
Rick May is not a rando, you faggot.
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>>742047232
He was before SF64 made him popular.
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>>742035131
Star Fox 64 is an arcade shooter. It's meant to be replayed for score and other refinements.
If you squint and see the game as not done until you play each level once, 64 is actually the longest Star Fox game, Adventures notwithstanding
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>thought I had gotten all the medals
>you actually have to do venom 1 this time
ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i wish expert mode was unlocked from the start the direct revealing this game made me think it would be wahhhhh
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Barely got the Aquas medal after a few tries.

>>742046943
Thankfully I got Titania's medal now but to clarify, you just need to get to phase 2 of the boss and wait one minute.
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>>742046943
You can go to Titania even with Slippy not being swatted. You simply just choose to go there.
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>>742037581
I found it interesting that in the 1st snes game, Venom route 2 was a highway with what looked like a city skyline.
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>>742047686
Venom 1 might be the new roadblock for medals now. If you take wrong branching paths there it's very difficult to get points
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>>742047448
This
He was, as was the style at the time, a random theater guy they grabbed and got an incredible performance out of.
He absolutely had a career before Star Fox, but I do believe Peppy was his first vidya role
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>>742047758
And you're fighting cars. There really hasn't been anything like that since.
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>>742047739
Only in 64 and the game just pretends he got swatted. Remake makes you wait for him to get knocked down.
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>>742047686
I hope they made it easier
Venom 1's medal was unironically the single hardest thing in the game in 64. I've never done it without savestates.
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>>742047832
I must've been lucky since I got it on my first try. Met the quota after killing the miniboss.
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>>742047739
Not in the remake
You specifically cannot route change back to Titania if you get Macbeth for any reason in new Star Fox.
You MUST let Slippy get swatted.
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>>742047832
Coming in with loads of bombs for the first 5 seconds is the bigger issue for me.
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>>742047912
Shouldn’t be too bad if you just stockpile bombs in this version.
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>>742032223
Falco's voice actor was a Kamala supporter, so my guess is he refused to voice that line.
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>>742035694
I'm inclined to agree. It reeks of modern western "gender is a social construct" nonsense.
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>>742032563
God, I hate americans and their jewish masters so much, can't wait for them to get nuked.
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FIRE FIRE DON'T LET EM THROUGH
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>>742047912
Do you even need Venom 1's medal if you get it from Venom 2's star wolf fight?
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>>742048417
yes you do now
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>>742048242
there are no kamala supporters, only trump haters
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>original fight: quiet during the actual battle, only laughing as he [teleports behind you]
>remake fight:
>BURN TO THE GROUND BURN BURN TO THE GROUBURN TO THE GROUND BURN BURN BURN TRIFORMATION
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>>742048813
Oh, shut up. Talkative villains shutting up for the fight is a tired trope that I'm glad they're not repeating.
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>>742049116
Okay but in that case he's a giant floating brain. That was the one time silence was acceptable.
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>>742049116
>tired trope
Yeah you're right. I'm tired of eating pizza, guess it's time to lick some shit off a diaper
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>>742049430
Ok, Snoy
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I waited out the Fichina bomb to see how’d they react. Also if you do that, the ones you left alive come back in Bolse. I forgot all about that.
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>>742030624
The avians do all hard work.
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>>742048417
You didn't before
Venom 1's medal was essentially an optional challenge, because Venom 2's medal is trivial, and nearly guaranteed as long as everyone's alive, and counts for both.
Here, Venom 1 and Venom 2 are both required, but 1 is a bit easier. Still hard though. They also made Sector Z a bit easier (because the missiles have less health, and restarts are both free and preserve your laser upgrade, so you're not fucked for the entire run if someone else steals a missile kill)
Venom 1 and Sector Z were the only absolute motherfucker medals before, so both of those being easier is probably for the best.
I think Bolse might be slightly harder now, since you kinda need Star Wolf to get it, but Star Wolf fucks your teammates raw on Bolse now, so you kinda need to be on point and murder the fuck out of them immediately.
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>>742047120
This is the biggest Nintendo disaster since TOTK. How will they possibly recover? Layoffs when?
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>>742050014
>so you're not fucked for the entire run if someone else steals a missile kill)
Your allies' kills still don't count for your score? They had one job
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>>742049841
Bolse is great penultimate level for a first playthrough
>defense satellite protecting Venom
>Star Wolf returns since you probably didn't beat them the first time
>satellite core blasting lasers every fucking way the more you damage it
Then you get better and realize that Bolse are nothing compared to the other set pieces
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>SF64
>Tired of beating the game on expert
>Want a better challenge
>Shoot down your wingmen except when they are needed for routes.
>basic laser only.
Star Wolf would be so challenging 1v4
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>>742045475
Makes me wonder if they think it would be too traumatic for the kiddies
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God damn it. Fake Andross doesn't give hits. Came to Venom 1 with Max bombs and kept getting to the Golem with 180ish and assumed both bosses would give hits.
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>>742029847
Unrelated but should I play the SNES game or the 64 one if I want to try Star Fox for the first time?
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>>742050518
64 is SNES but better in every way.
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>>742050518
The 64 is the only one people care about. Just play that. You should eventually check out the SNES game. But it's one if those games that actually aged poorly just because tech has come so far since then. I wish it had a remake. 64 has 2. But the game that needs one remains untouched.



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