genuinely what could save the game in later chapters? Are you going to play future Toby games if Deltarune ends up being shit?
>>742059678I'll play it since I already bought it and I need to at least see the end of Weird Route. That is still too deliriously kino to ignore
>>742059678My schizo theory is the knight is the vessel we made in the beginning that has been warped by the dark
>>742059678Evil Susie/Alternate Timeline theory comes true, where it's revealed all this time, Susie was trying to steal Kris' life.It'll be kino.Kris will get his deer wife, no matter how much dino blood needs to be spilled.
>>742059678It's downright cruel that the weird route contain better Krusie moments than the normal route.It feels like giving your dog (Kris) chocolate before you have them put down (to the bottom of a lake)
cope theory/denial theory being trueI still wouldn't exactly call the whole chain of events 'good' or well written even one of those was true however
>>742059678I'm sorry to break this to you, but people don't hate this chapter as much /v/ wants people to hate it, and people aren't going to stop playing this game because of some tumblr shipping shit
this is the thread
>>742059678Weird route and it's not even close.
>>742059678The fated Kris Chapter 6 schizo meltdown and roaring cliffhangerGaster will save the ending (all shadow crystals + Seam fight only)
>>742060045funny Kris
>Wins 4chan's heartHow did she do it?
>>742060130child
as the guy who made the "cope" post last thread about how suselle is dogshit on purpose, i forgot about the smoking gun that points to that: THE FUCKING HAMMER GAME>noelle pretty explicitly says that it's a compatibility tester>having kris and noelle do it, you get to choose when kris swings, but no matter what you do noelle will always match kris>having susie and noelle do it, susie flubs it and then cheats by forcibly hitting noelle's side>(and kris and susie just bap eachother on the heads instead of doing it)do you truly, honestly believe toby would've made the suselle option play out like that if it was meant to just be a wholesome chungus valid lesbian relationship and not intentional dogshit?
>>742060130nip character in a western game
>>742060005They may not hate it as much, but it's still the most divisive chapter by a mile. I've never seen so much criticism of a new Deltarune release outside of /v/.
>>742060130By both being Femkris and a loli. She might as well be explicitly designed to appeal to /v/
>>742059678Toby revealing he was purposely writing Suselle to be shit and that Noelle was always meant to be a piece of shit would fix a lot of issues with not only this chapter, but every prior chapter too.
That's right, doe-brain!I'm huntin' for that bird tail, so get out of my way!
>>742060130eroi
>>742060130cute and funny
>>742060187Jap fuckers haven't included a properly made yandere like Aqua in ages. They're too "serious" for that now.
>>742060161Cunny
>>742060178Anon I...
>>742060130cute and funny wins again
need Mew Mew delicious cat fat ass
>>742060005>but people don't hate this chapter as much /v/ wants people to hate itThe only thing i keep seeing on my fyps are weird route related things. Those 10 minutes were more memorable than the whole chapter. People praising because it's Toby and faggot month retards got served with blue flower and shit. Other than that, they'll soon realize how shitty it was if compared to the other chapters
>>742059678The weird route and the normal route will have the same ending
her name is pinkmew mew is from ut
>>742059678Deltarune doesn't need "saving". It's in no danger. The encuckening was part of a grand plan... Susie is a flawless best friend character in Ch4, in 5 she gets drawn deep into two delusions (1) the delusion of the dark worlds, which aren't real and (2) the delusion of Noelle, who is just playing a part and going through the motions, deep down. Suselle is a fake relationship between the most and least delusional characters in the story, and Ch5 serves to set up the cataclysm that's coming to them. Toby knows their relationship is fucked, it's why he made them unable to ring the bell at the Festival. It's why the deeper Susie gets into her relationship with Noelle the more of a bitch she is to Kris and Catti and Ralsei. It's why he keeps using dialogue options and sprites to show that Kris loves Susie and is hurt by what's happening. In Ch6 it ALL comes tumbling down and it will be glorious. This Chapter was the "inferno of jealousy", the next one is where it all gets washed away.
>>742060178means nothing. i've had couples in tomodachi life with 30% compatibility and they fell in love the fastest and had the most babies.
What's the next big meme face, bros? Toby went full funny with the sprites this time around!
>>742060224The only thing I've seen normalfags be upset about with this chapter is Asgore's vague posting and him not doing as much as we thought he might doOther than that, they like the chapter
>>742060178>toby >wholesome chungus valid lesbian relationshipYeah I believe it
>>742060341WR will show you what happens next changing the meaning of the endingVery yume nikki fangame of the fox
>>742060130Everyone loves children
>>742060178Anon i'm so sorry. Genuinely
>>742057787Anon, if you're still here, you are my fucking hero. I was looking through the Asgore scenes when I should have been looking through Flowery's. This is perfect, it's exactly what I needed. The kicker is that Ralsei fucking knows.
>>742060328this point doesn’t really work when you remember that your FYP is based off of what you interact with
JARONAJARONAJARONAJARONAJARONAJARONAJARONA
>>742060130ToT
>>742060409wrong, reddit is also mad about suselle
>>742060351
>>742060178You are seeing foreshadowing where there is none anon...
>>742060308>Aqua>yandereThat word doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>742059678The game doesn't need to be saved and it's good you got filtered.
>>742060178The whole point of that is to make the ntr hurt more. Yes, Kris is perfect with them. Yes, they suck together. It doesn't matter, there is only One Ending. Kris will walk Noelle to Susie on their wedding day and Kris will go home alone and eat his tree cake. This is supposed to hurt. Evey choice of writing exists to make it hurt more. There is only one ending Byuu.
>>742060178Because undyne and alphys was peak writing no?I believe tobby's issues prevent him from actually developing healthy romance
>>742059678we're gonna wait three years and WR is just gonna be some half assed cutscene with no gameplay to own the chuds
>>742060439Get away you kangaroo furry
Which items are worth getting? I'm torn between this, the hat or maybe the apron.Also how many are you meant to be able to buy? I only have enough pink coins for one.
>>742060005This is not true at all. I have seen 100% normie, LGBT friendly people and youtubers bash Chapter 3 just like /v/ said it would happen. /v/ is not too far away from the general consesus. Mostly because not everyone here is a culture warrior larper and a lot of people care about the story on a deeper level. Right now CH5 is getting close to CH3 infamy.
>>742060130We always liked human lolis here and thus Toby rewarded us for being faithful to him
>>742060557I think it's pretty obvious that the one ending centers around Kris and Noelle on both routes, and Susie dies.
>>742059678Nothing. Deltatroon has always been and will always be a garbage game for furfaggots, just like Undertale.
>>742060494JUST KIDDING!
>>742060267This is 90% accurate to what's happening but anons just want to doom because they want to keep licking their self-inflicted wounds.The difference is that Toby still actually likes suselle and will probably write them to overcome the tragedy, though in a way that incorporates Kris somehow
>>742059678I hate the yuri slop
>>742060485i didn't even play weird route because i got spoiled that it was mostly 5 minutes of going around with susie and 10 minute long cutscene. People just really liked it and it ended up covering the whole chapter. THAT and flowery being a badass the last 5 minutes.
>>742060614You can buy 3 at most, there's only 9 extra pink coins
>>742060457so... what does that imply, exactly??? I'm too retarded to figure it out myself.
>>742060634I'm so sorry anon. But your wrong.
>>742060524Shiptards wanting to kill themselves is good however. If Toby Fox sinks all the ships and Deltarune and makes all of these retards want to kill themselves I will fucking KNEEL no matter how dogshit the rest of the game is.
>>742060494>stats are fake and don't really matteri feel like this reveal should be bigger than it is, the Dark World is literally a sham and we still have 2 visits to go
>>742060130she legitimately is cute and funny, something severely lacking with the other 'humans' in this chapter
>>742060457inb4 Asgore's flowers are actually injected with determination
Do you think Pink can clap with her ass?Could Aqua do it?
>>742060664I don't know what this edit is based off of but I enjoy it
>>742060130I don’t like touhou so I just found her annoying Orange wad my favorite
>>742060619ch3's main route was by no means as bad as ch5, especially since it had shadow mantle and knight fight, which was good in both terms of writing and gameplayit felt like ch5's focus was 99% gameplay with very little thought gone into the writing and storytelling
>>742060614You can talk to the smith outside to find the locations of any coins you missed, once you get all of them you'll be able to buy three. I don't know if it'll matter what you pick in the end, especially since you already have items like the black shard that outdamage the dagger you can get from them.
>>742060602what the fuck are you talking about
>>742060614Apron and glasses are OP as fuck.
>>742060494>turned off his voice clips on my second playthrough instead of turning off Ralsei>forget to turn them back on>didn't have voice clips for his boss fightI was upset
>>742060723Invincible
>>742060723it's a page from invincible, the main bad guy thragg is seething over omni man actually having a good relationship with his wife
>>742060130Not for me, she is excessively ditzy, super cringe and annoying, I was over her entire shtick after just 2 interactions with her.
Do you think after Kris and Noelle disappear in chapter 5 WR Susie and Ralsei try finding the codes by themselves?
Swishes her fat $$$$ing tail
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG-oSnZ4xCAA Flowery fight animation from this dude would be cool. If they included his fight with the Knight it would be awesome too.
>>742060738Jaorange reminds me of this dude
>>742060130Pure and Innocent.Can't even get upset at her when she leaves her knife on your liver.>Black Knife or Flower Man?Are they supposed to be complementary or am I imagining things?Like all hope is lost and suddenly this mf jumps out of his grave and gives you a 1up, or something?
>>742060494JA Orange!
>>742060714Would that even do something if they weren't also covered in monster dust?
>>742060602kek
>>742060738orange is pretty coolThe idea of an aggressive but fearful womanlet is also really good, if she wasn't a literal RAT, she might have actually be candidate for #1 with aqua
Reminder that Normal Route/Pacifism&Recruit explicitly being called out as Bad Thing.It's Deltafraud, Kris is NOT The Cage, because Kris is consistently failing containment and is a slave to our whims when we are inside, Susie is NOT The Girl, because she is a Dragon, hoarding and collecting in selfish greed and does not find Love, Noelle is just another item, in her collection. Ralsei isn't actually the "Ralsei" depicted in the mural.Tenna was a microcosm of that, taking him to Castle Town is a bad ending for him, giving him up to someone who will use the ACTUAL item he is based on is a good one. Recruit will be the requirement for the WORST ending, this is why Recruiting is usually easier then Fighting.
Green = AsrielAqua = KrisSeth = TorielYellow = Asgore himself (hates himself to the point of contemplating suicide, seeks justice, used to be a cop...)Flowery = duhSo what people from Asgore's life are Blue and Orange based on? Did Carol use to be a romantic before she lodged that stick up her ass? Is that why Blue has such an ugly mug? Are we gonna learn Dess used to be really short and plucky and wanted to prove she wasn't a crybaby? Is that how she got in trouble?
>>742060557This. Just fucking LOOK AT IT. It gives you so much depth to Kris and Noelle's relationship (Noelle seeing Kris as her husband) just so the NTR hits even fucking harder.Japan has a culture where "pure" love of childhood marriage promises, ripe for NTRing.
>>742060524Oh Lawdy, i took a little field trip and the salt mines are overflowing>pic rel
>>742060803Thragg is literally me.
>>742060614Specs might not be that good because you don't get TP while invincible. Also the bonus is only 20% and not 50% like in Undertale.All the weapons have really impressive stat boosts. Effects are meh, but you don't get amazing stats and a good effect in any case. Best 3 choices would probably ne hat, apron and shoes/gloves
>>742060843I see you're a fellow man of culture
>>742060859what's funny is that if the Knight is meant to be Rudy (i think it is) then the only person that managed to put up a fight 1v1 with Rudy, is himself (as he's based on Asgore's old roomate, which is Rudy)
>>742060829Ralsei doesn't care about the shelterIf anything he will just panic because he cannot fulfill the prophecy anymore and try to replace them or something like that
>>742060859>Are they supposed to be complementary or am I imagining things?Idealized Rudy vs real Rudy, basically
>>742060614Apron and the knife isn't good.O gloves give more defense(8) and has +4 attack. Thought it can only be worn by Susie and NoelleHat is +4 in all + spells are 20% strongerShoes give Ralsei 4 defense and 6 magicSpecs are great too 4 defense, 6 magic + 20% more I frames
>>742060748CH3 has its moments but I think CH5 introduced more characters (the flowers) with potential to be liked as time goes on. Overall I think they're very close because both focus too much on gimmicks with CH4 being the opposite.
>>742060684Noelle is obviously the most important character (Gaster connections, etc.). Susie is absolutely the type of character that gets killed for the sake of tragedy. Ralsei specificially prays for Susie. Toby emphasized that there's only one ending no matter what. The hammer game and other stuff at the festival emphasizes the Kris/Noelle connection. Noelle is obviously going to be brought to the fore in Ch6 but Susie trying to bring her to Castle Town while her Dad's dying is obviously setting them up for a fight. It all lines up.
Would you still mew mew if she wasn't in the dark world
>>742060785for pacifist, orange glove might be the best because for susie its a weapon with the most defense and you can just equip NetskieHats for her 2 armor slots for 20 DEF total.
>>742060843based
>>742060178I played undertale and this is literally Alphys x Undine all over againDeal with it
I didn't think Susie would die desu, I didn't think Toby would have the balls, frankly. But now, I'm kinda not sure, and I really don't want her to die...
>Noelle is going to meet with Tenna if you keep him in your town for chapter 6
>>742060619C'mon, atleast Chapter 3 has Sword and The Knight
>>742060896Seth = TorielAnon, please get your eyes checked. That's fucking blue, not purple.
Stop trying to come up with explanations or excuses for Susie's behavior.Embrace the path of clarity, the one where (You) will make sure they're punished once and for all.We're going to make them pay.
>>742060961There are solo battles promised at some point and apron is 17% of max health which is godly for aggresive TP farming strategies
>>742060682Flowery is a flower.Flowers are not darkners. They're living things.But, despite being a lightner, Flowery can't close the fountain.This is because video game characters don't have a human soul.
I've noticed that the handful of guys here who are spamming that chapter 5 is shit are all obsessed with NTR.I'm not even gonna argue about whether or not Kris has unrequited feelings for Noelle or Susie or whatever shippers care about because they very well could.But do you still think Kris is your self insert or something? Kris is a tragic villain. Deltarune is a drama disguised as a comedy. It's not wish fulfillment. The sadness and pain are the point.Also, how is Susie supposed to know that Kris likes them or Noelle? She's only been interacted with our meat puppet version of them. Kris doesn't get to be honest with her. You're all just ass mad because you still haven't internalized that Kris isn't you.
>>742060902i've never seen a more unfun, unhappy and miserable place than Reddit, they always outdo themselves
>>742060527>ishowsneed trying not to laugh face! that's sure to get some social media shares(((robert fuchs))) does it again
>>742060998You're asking me to hotglue a figurine?
>>742060998already wanted to fuck the shit out of her with her UT counterpart, so
>>742060998>if she wasn't in the dark worldYou mean if she was just an inanimate doll? No
>>742060784https://undertale.wiki/w/So_Sorry
>>742060874>literal RATOnly bad because on model isn’t a sexy anthro woman>>742060843Fops boot
>>742060682He later on explains how plants have a unique reaction to being in a dark world (they're alive in the real world, but not really alive like you or me) and probably just means Ralsei holding back on that, as it might have implications or come in handy somewhere down the line
Suselle fight might have won the battle, however not the war
Why do people keep acting like the shopkeeper is some mysterious character when she's clearly just the flower that sits on Asgore's register counter?
>>742059885>Susie is actually a goner working for gaster the whole time >Real name is SuzyIt was right there the whole time holy shit
>>742060902>chair jokes are off limitsironically, how cucked do you have to be to use reddit
>>742060859Flower man. I thought he was being ironic and retarded like Tenna at first, but he was a bro all along.
>>742060348this is the most insane cope in this thread anyone who sees that fucking bridal carry scene at the lake and thinks toby didn't want you sobbing in your cuck chair at the beauty is halfway through the noose already
>>742061125What?She's mew mew.After you beat mew mew Orange will be sitting next to the shopkeeper confirming that it's mew mew.
>>742061059thisthese niggas will learn, THEY WILL LEARN
>>742061125the shopkeeper is fucking Pink nigga
>>742060178I'm so sorry anon... And this is coming from someone who has been on this ride since SURVEY_PROGRAM.Just make peace with the fact that we wasted our time expecting a good story just to get a self-serving fetish slop from someone who has a hate-boner for his audience.
>>742061025>first thing he'll probably ask her about is Dessokay maybe I'll keep him around for that lol
>>742061125...it's mewmew/pink
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MADE OF FUCKING WOOD THEY DON'T HAVE ACTUAL FUR
>>742060896>Seth = TorielToriel is literally blue in your pic
>>742061059This includes killing Kris though. He IS not the ideal tool, Noelle will be much more fitting as she is willing.
>>742060130She's perfect
>>742060524>>742060902Who knew Krusiefags would turn out to be so cringe
>>742060902Is it bad that I'm happy to see secondaries filtered from the krusie fandom? I got tired of their shit years ago.
>>742060998Only if mad dummy is still in there
>>742061059Your damn right we will. No two bit dime store hood discount barney is going to get between us and Noelle and get away with it. And thats not a threat thats a promise.
>>742061125That one is flowery
>>742060748>with very little thought gone into the writing and storytellingFuck out of here with that bullshitFlowery is the only fucking "villain" that had an actual reason to fight the Fun Gang and also made them question their motives
toby fox is a lying fuck
>>742061053>>742061193it's an odd shade of blue violet, i don't blame anon for calling it purple but saying it's blue isn't right either
>>742060682I guess a sneak peek at my theory couldn't hurt.Basically, Asgore is seeking to recreate the conditions of the tragedy from "that day", which involve the original Dark world, which is still open in the shelter as of now. This evidence strongly suggest that a human or humans is/are required for whatever that is. It's not about opening a fountain, we've seen Susie do that, and Ralsei stopped Berdly from doing it chapter 2, implying that any Lightner can. It's something deeper, darker. And it's very related to whom the tragedy befell years ago. It ain't Dess.
>>742061053Fuck me you're right. I forgot Seth is a way redder shade or purple. Shit. Well that makes a lot of sense if Yellow is Asgore's self insert.
>>742061190who you talking to
>>742061076>Also, how is Susie supposed to know that Kris likes them or Noelle?The aborted route shows that she thought Kris and Noelle were a couple long before we came into the picture.
>>742060178anon pleaselook at yourselfthis is just sad i'm not even trying to make fun of you or something like thatplease bro stop coping, it's only going to make you disappointed even harder in the future
>>742061283Flowery has six petals.
>the sun is a foxOk that got me
>>742061182Faggot.
>>742060876Nigga, the part of the prophecy with the girl literally has her spell's icon on it, how much more on the nose do you need this to be
>>742061072I guessI would rate them as such>They're eating my skin!Flowery Scarf>Ralsei's only weapon that gives more than 2 magicBlue Shoes>Great all aroundSeth Specs and Yellow Hat>Getting nicherO Glove and Green Apron>Better off using bounce bladeAqua Knife
>>742059678Toby already has your money, it doesnt matter what happens now
>>742060792I think the option gets taken away regardless, I turned them back on immediately after Ralsei asks you to do it, and he still didn't do them almost at all
>>742061314PLEASE
So what the theoretical golden ending that can't happen would be for you guys?>Kris marries Mew Mew>Ralsei gets replaced with Flowery>Noelle builds a kayak and swims away>Catty gets in threesome relationship with Burger Pants and Susie
personally I think suselle is fine but ive never been in a relationship so
>>742061214>He IS not the ideal toolBut that's what makes Kris fun. Part of the appeal of the weird route is that Kris hates it and we make him do it anyways
>>742061292anon I don't think you know what good writing means
Dude, is Toby going to vaguepost deep into chpater 7?
Susie will be forgottenSuzy is forgotten
>>742061325https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TudMykewh_I
>>742061362The story ends with susie and kris doing their project on the dark worlds
Watching comments on reddit about the chapter 5 date is very entertaining.It's like 50% redditors going >Wow, I can't believe how fucking awful this was for Kris, I'm so sorry little enbie.25% >Ok, this was actually TOO awful, I think there's more to this because this supposedly wholesome and loving lesbian relationship is marking too much of a negative change on every character involved, specially with the way Susie is actively stealing Kris' things and has suddenly switched to torturing them." *theorizing begins here*And then finally the other 25%>UHMMM, DON'T CARE CHUDS, SUSIE AND NOELLE ARE THE CUTEST AND MOST ADORABLE COUPLE I'VE EVER SEEN AND THEY HAVE THE SWEETEST ROMANTIC ARC EVER WRITTEN INTO FICTION AND YOU'RE ALL JUST HOMOPHOBES WHO DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE THE GAME AND YOU ALL HATED SUSIE ALL ALONG MEDIA LITERACY MEDIA LITERACY MEDIA LITERACYCuriously, I don't see a single person actually trying to address what the Weird Route differences might signify to the Normal Route date, which is something that you guys have been doing here often.Also I'm jumping on Krismew as the endgame ship.
had no idea mew mew was a character from undertale
>>742061362I, the soul, kill everyone
>>742061297Flowery hates KrisMy man can't get more based
I briefly witnessed a playthrough where someone's immediate reaction to Asgore and Flowery was>Omg this is so gay he's so bisexual why is he imagining his best friend and doing all this stuff with him he's so gayIs this really how these people think about everything? Not just...dad and his old college buddy?
>>742061014chapter 5 has actually made me more tolerable to alphys/undyne in hindsight
>>742061409You see, Deltarune was.... well, I think you know. And the knight... you knew all along, didn't you? <The End>
It's up...
>>742061409Looks that way
>>742060998I would put her in the jar.
>>742061409We are 5 chapters in and have no idea who the main antagonist is and just fluctuate on gaster or carol or whoever the knight is with the titans and roaring being more a force akin to that sleeping dragon in mother 3
I don't know how to break it to you guys but Noelle is not joining the party. All of her equip dialog has been a red herring and a meta narrative tool used to reference her going "out of bounds" in the WR.
>>742061165>different hairstyle>different personality
>>742060348>Toby knows their relationship is fuckedwe all know the writing was genuine hatred towards Kris x Susie because the "Kris is a they/them" failsafe didn't work and even troons see Kris as a male so he won't write something that resembles a hetero couple in any way, shape or form.
>>742061480(laughs)
>>742061450>Also I'm jumping on Krismew as the endgame ship.Susie and Ralsei already managed to ruin that too.
>>742061409You're not ready for Noelle to vaguepost about how you should go back and do Weird Route once you get to the normal ending.
>>742061451Wasn't she only in the Switch/Xbox versions?
>>742061409you realize that to get the answers in Undertale you had to beat it once, right?I'm worried the same thing will happen here
>>742061172We need a version with Susie and SOUL swapped.
>>742061397>anon I don't think you know what good writing meansClearly you don't since you genuinely think the Knight and the end of sword route wasn't the only thing keeping chapter 3 from being complete shit
>>742061125Go back to her shop anon, she has bonus dialogue after you defeat the totally unrelated secret boss
>>742061303no one that mattersautism is just making me bitch that Netskie is drawn with fur
>>742061362>THE VESSEL is unsealed from wherever it was hidden away>(you) abandon Kris to take charge of THE VESSEL>the slaves of the fake world (kris, susie, the knight, etc) try to stop you >(you) destroy the fake and gay world of the demiurge >everyone is used up >game deletes itself
>>742061458That may yet happen
>>742059678I've started to warm up to the chapter after my initial thoughtsI still think mew mew fucking sucked ass though
There is something I don't know how Toby is going to handle in Chapters 6 and 7, and that's the secret bosses. Are there even gonna be secret bosses in those chapters? What will be their purpose? So far you fight secret bosses to get shadow crystals, but you get the last one on Chapter 5, so what's the purpose of fighting them in 6 and 7? Will it just be a secret boss for the sake of a secret boss? No rewards besides maybe some additional lore?
>>742061467Yes they are pure hollow husks who view everything through the lens of 'does it validate my beliefs/personality/identity' making them completely devoid of any ability to engage with media for itself
>>742061551the "guide" / "hints" for WR are in chapter 3 with the backstage board.
Can anyone point me to a video or some information about sparing the flowers bullet patterns? I've spared Aqua's first knife throwing one, Seth's glasses, and Yellow's gun but it doesn't seem to be possible to let Orange's boxing gloves run out of energyI offer this seth in return
>>742061537I'll just hope that somehow by the end Mew Mew gets to stay around Kris.What I do know for sure is that I don't give a single fuck about Susie or Noelle anymore. Well, I do about Noelle because Weird route Noelle is fucking sick, but not Normal Noelle.
>>742061409bro hes a lynch fan thats the whole point
>>742061296>>742061193Okay so disregard my failure and humor me, who do you think Seth and Orange are based on? I can't think of anything that isn't pure speculation or future characters.
>tfw every fight relies on TP bar mechanics ever since jackenstein>tfw tension bits are now the most valuable item in the game
>>742061076or anon, perhaps i>dislike the obviously different writing team that don't write like toby (signs include way more swearing than previous, the flowers having a minute sequence in the cafe talking about pronouns when usually toby handles it with a bit of tact)>dislike the plot generally feeling more like filler>dislike susie constantly going on about noelle all the time>dislike the sudden swerve in festival story from 'oh we're all going together as friends haha!' to 'oh yeah this is a date and everyone in castletown is trying to get susie ready for it for some reason (and kris is invited too i guess)'>dislike how susie and noelle start acting like stereotypical mean girls who bully catti for daring to not be happy for them, or bully away berdly because he dared to try and make kris feel less like an awkward third wheel>dislike the whole damn dark world being REMEMBER UNDERTALE?? (yes, having the flowers yell about their OMEGA MOVES is a blatant nostalgiabait)>generally dislike how the whole thing feels like something i'd have seen on youtube a few months ago as a fanmade chapter 5but no it's totally because I (me, personally) wanted to fuck susie and i'm mad about it, no other criticisms here move right along folks and sit in your WAIT chambers for another year
>>742061635And?
>>742061467My first reaction to Flowery was, damn, so this is how Rudy was when he was younger?
>Say it, Kris!>GIASFELFEBREHBER
>>742061563I bet on 7B being DR's equivalent to the true lab Gaster is shaping up to be less benign than I initially assumed if they have their minions kill towners just for getting too close to the map bounds.
>>742061582The entire sword route was able to convey the same nuance of sacrifice but asking if another game layer makes it ammoral or not without having to baby feed it to the player the same way chapter 5 did
>>742060897>Noelle, confused holds onto your other ear, but doesn't pull it.Muh heart! It's too cute!
>>742059678drinkGODs keep winning
>>742061619>So far you fight secret bosses to get shadow crystals>forgetting about ERAM
>>742061487why did you think posting about a troontuber on /v/ would be a good idea
>>742059678I'm surprised anyone played Deltarune given how shit under tale was.Oh hey everyone wants to murder you but you're evil if you fight back.
>>742061640I did not even know you could do that, wtf?
>>742061615i'm less hostile now than i was on wednesday but i still think it's weaker than 3 and especially 4 as a whole
>>742061487wow anon, im sure watching this tranny playing the tranny game you already know all about is worth five hours of your life
>>742061703Yeah Gaster isn't like an alphys
>>742061409>Now that the Knight, whoever that was, has been defeated, we can finally move on from the tragedy of...the event. Let's go home, Kris.>DELTARUNE
>>742061563That's retarded if that's the case.Undertale takes 4 hours to beat, Deltarune doesn't.
>>742061362>Kriselle wins>Susie come to her senses after the inevitable fight and go back to being the ultimate bro>Ralsei has his own "Thanks for watching my dream">Dess is FOUND>Asriel comes back from college>Asgore get out of his shitty living situation>We finish this damn project>SOUL is sealed alongside the last dark world, anytime you boot up your save it's the same hub without exit
MewMew es Transgenero o algo
>>742061685well, i mean what you're saying isn't needed because it got hinted with CH3 already. Thankfully we don't need a flowey telling us the game doesn't end there this time around.
>>742061640Hold on. You actually can spare them?
>>742061658>OrangeUndyne>SethEither Alphys or Berdly
>>742060130She kinda reminds me of fanon Chara, which is probably why she is the only part of ch5 I sort of liked
>>742061729I really hate how all of Ralsei's personal scenes are "PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LIKE RALSEI PLEASE LIKE HIM PLEASE HE'S KRIS'S SECOND FRIEND PLEASE LIKE HIM PLEASE MR. PLAYER MAN PLEASE LIKE HIM".
wait a momentKris LIKES Noelle and normal route has ntr with badly made lesbian romance between susie and noelle?PLEASE tell me this is fake
>>742061362>>742061650Maddy will find that her animatronic from UT in the Light world and give Alphys a heart attack. Or maybe she'll stay tiny and give Alphys a heart attack.
>>742061824you need to go back
>>742061640wait, you can spare them?
>>742060959this. I didn't believe in rudyknight until this scene.
>>742061703I'm getting the impression that the thing that makes sans stand out from the rest of the gaster followers is a barely functioning moral compass that is guided by the lust for goat ass.
>>742061735Ok well that was a boss fight to get an item to make the actual shadow crystal holder fight easier. Regardless, there is a purpose for it beyond just fighting for fun. I wanna know what the deal is gonna be with secret bosses in 6 and 7.
>>742061764Mating press pinks body while ghost is forced to watch
could friend be plant too?
>>742061735which.... helps you.... get the ....crystal
>>742061767>>742061827I can't fuckin find anyone talking about it anywhere, but yeah if you dodge for long enough the victory screen comes up and it says the bullet pattern "ran out of energy"Seth's glasses were literally like 5 minutes of dodging
THE RAPED WILL TURN INTO THE RAPIST
>>742061840you're a bit off, he likes Susie in the normal route. He also possibly like Noelle tooOther than that, yeah it's real.
>>742061758>Oh hey everyone wants to murder you but you're evil if you fight back.You're not evil for fighting back though, you're just not as saintly as you could be which is how you get pacifist route. But to be evil you have to actually kill everyone, and the actual majority of monsters you meet aren't actually attacking you, even including some of the "fight" encounters.
>>742061362"good ending">Kris fixes his relationship with noelle>Susie learns to stop being a ligger and grows as a person alongside Ralsei>Catti can be happy for her friends now>Carol gets some peace >Rudy LIVES>Asgore gets redeemed as not being insane nor unjustified>mewmew ends up with flowery>blue disappears as a retcon"WR ending">Kris fucking dies>Susie lives in the school closet that now is only filled with toys>Noelle is part of our final party with the vessel breaking the simulation escaping to mount ebott
>>742060614Haven't tried how good critting is with the knife, but I got that, the specs and the hat.I know the knife itself isn't as good as black shard in AT but it does give +2 DFAlso if I knew the apron healed a whopping 16% I would've considered getting it, but the description (slightly recover HP) makes it sound like it's a static number or a lower percentage.
TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO NOW THAT I HAVE ALLOWED YOU TO BEAT MEDO YOU THINK THAT WE COULD PLAY ANOTHER GAMEMAYBE I COULD WIN THIS TIME
>>742061467your dad's my best friend
>>742061825>It's not neededAnd?Technically hinting at it in any way wasn't needed at all.Putting in a giant segment (with some coercion from his team) where it tells you the Weird Route's story beats step for step is completely unnecessary unless the Weird Route is in some way completely necessary to understand the game.
>>742061409The ending is going to be one giant vaguepost
Kris please just ditch these assholesBerdly is your real nigga, just go break the prophecy or whatever with him instead. He's stronger than Susie anyways. Grab Mew Mew to round out the party, she wants your dick.I beat the Knight and Sans we can handle whatever it is together.
>>742061758That's not what Undertale's is about at all, opinion discarded.
>>742061658i think seth is a mixture of berdly and asriel, if he's supposed to be a singular person then i lean more on asriel due to his closeness with aquaorange being dess is funny, maybe it's how asgore saw her? i don't think dess was actually like that when she got lost'd though
>>742061881>Dorky girls with big titsUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHH
>>742061881My dorky purple wife
>>742061362Kriselle (forma de Not Weird)
>>742061739self-shilling probablybtw Noelle is bisexual
>>742061904also this only seems to work on the ones that HAVE a victory screen, which usually say "defeated x bullet pattern"
>>742061362you guys dont understand how much i actually want the first point to be true
>>742061964to be fair, games like these usually give you like 30% of the answers straight on and the rest is up to you
>>742061165>>742061175>>742061187Yes, that's why she wears different clothes and has different hair and speaks in a completely different manner. They're definitely the same person. Orange can ONLY be around one person.I saw a theory that it is actually Mew mew, but from a manga that Asgore has, which is why she's in greyscale. I don't know if there's any evidence to support Asgore owning manga, but it's clearly not the pink that we fight.
>>742061487unless this eceleb shits on suselle I don't care
>>742060902>Realize i haven't used reddit in a literal decadewow, it's impressive they've gotten even more insufferable
>/v/ pretending that chp 3 and 4 weren't shit after shitting on them for 6 months straightHoly fuck I can't wait for chp 6 to drop so we can start talking about how 5 was an underrated masterpiece
>>742061758>still parroting this decade-old secondary myth
>>742061890No, Friend is only found in the darkest areas of a dark world and that would eventually kill him if he was a plant.Might be a mushroom though, they do fine in the dark
>>742060998>>742061095>>742061505You are now aware that Asgore hotglue the Mew Mew Doll, and the Mad Dummy love to possess the doll without Asgore's knowledge.
BROSB4HOES
>>742061990Noelle is freedomsexual
>>742061409あの薄暗い地下壕で……そこで何が起きたにせよ。
>>742061823All it needs is Asgore and Toriel getting re-married, and it's perfect.I'd even be fine with the Soul being eternally sealed off after a good ending, meaning you need to fuck with system files to even play the game again.
I only ship Kris with cactus
>>742062016Mew mew is not getting any attention broNoelle is going to steal the show for Ch 6 castle town and Ch 7 will be serious vagueslop
>>742061840We don't entirely know because Weird Route noelle seems to imply some of the shit she blames kris for was actually shit she intentionally started.
>>742062035Chapter 4 rarely gets shit talked about, chapter 3 maybe.
>>742061487Switch version has a loading screen?
>>742060130>step 1: be a cute little girlit's really not complicated.the touhou theme song helps though.
>>742062035>after shitting on them for 6 months straightNo.
>>742062035People only shitted on 3 though and only the normal route
>>742061076>it's shit on purpose!fuck off
>>742061586>>742061283>>742061187>>742061175>>742061165Even if that's the case, they never explained where the fucking "ghost" possessing the figurine came from. The ghost is the flower on the counter. Unlike the other flowers, Asgore isn't even trying to keep it alive, but instead just cut it and placed in a glass vase to die.
>>742061409No he's just going to loredrop everything to us with scattered VHS tapes inside the true bunker
>>742062035What the fuck? Most everyone here seemed to like Ch.4
>>742061823>SOUL is sealed alongside the last dark world, anytime you boot up your save it's the same hub without exitI'd be surprised if there isn't an ending where you end up in the cage without being able to ever move again
>>742062021Yeah the game just lies to you about this one side character since they're actually the mastermind behind the whole prophecy
>>742062021orange is with her after the fight, so it can only be pink
>>742061362>>Kris marries Mew MewThe Ghost has a higher chance being with Asgore, honestly.
why are people arguing about this, its pretty obvious that if noelle could pick anyone it would be weird kris
>>742062035People were never shitting on chapter 4, you're just making shit up.
>>742061890Who knowsI just don't think we should open a dark world fountain in any place where a cat is presentDon't want that thing having a vessel
>>742062082My problem with 4 is that it's a slog in replays, mostly during WR
>>742062035Ch3 & 4 were the same problem with Ch5just vaguepostingthe difference is that ch5 gave us human lore and a great alternate route
>>742062021>SpoilerThere is one on the turned-over TV you can examine in the.
>>742061076>if you disliked it you are just a self-insert fagToby really just put that to have a scapegoat for criticism, isn't it?
>>742059678good writing (an impossible task for toby)
>>742060494He grew on me after awhile
>>742061904Are you saying that there's a secret pacifist route?
>>742062035the only part of ch4 that people ever shat on was the suselle, and the weird route more than made up for it
>>742062043https://files.catbox.moe/x8r6cr.png
>>742062030I took a cursory glance for a week before the chapter launch, and a bit yesterday.Aside from feeling like I need a shower afterwards, I notice that even the yuri-tards notice just how upset Kris is, and how unsatisfying the whole suselle romance is. That personally tells me that it's probably not cope. Not entirely cope at least.
>chapter 6>Kris wakes up>5 was a... LE DREAM>CHAPTER 6 - THE ACTUAL FESTIVALYOUR REACTION?!
>>742062021 Look here >>742062148
>>742062021anon you are genuinely retarded
How does a girl from an intact household and well-off family, in a good neighborhood, with a wide network of friends, end up like Dess? Is she just a poseur?
>>742062043Shed probably give out some hard cope about not. Wanting it
>>742062021Now that I think about it, Alphys did mention lending some comics to Asgore.
>>742062021>The gang tells Mew Mew (left) that she can come live with them in Castle Town and she's happy and excited>If you speak to Mew Mew (right) afterward in the shop, she says that she'll disappear if you close up the fountainThat theory could have some ground and it would at least explain why they're both so weird and contrasting
>>742062035>unironically using /v/ in a sentencelooks like the /vg/ tranny defense force is here
>>742061619Next secret bosses will be for lore dumps
>>742061409>Vagueposting throughout chapter 7>Chapter 6 was another filler adventure>At the climax of 7, (you) kill Ralsei and take full control of Kris>Disappear without a trace>Susie yells "DAMN YOU KRIS DELTARUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNE!">Cut to black>Text reads 'Kris will return... >...in Deltarune 2.">"2030"
>>742062046>no option to hang out with Berdly>every faggot in the fandom jump into shipping with Berdly instead of Kris being close friends with himFuck romance Friendship is eternal
The Ballot Scene gave me enough energy to last until chapter 6 just by itself desuPeak Normal Route Kriselle writing.
>>742062149>weird kriskris kris, normal or weirdnoelle love kris more than i think she even realizes
>>742062218HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
I have a question for all the ''the writing is bad on purpose'' copers, thinking Suselle is fated to crash and burn.Does it honestly even matter if Suselle doesn't work out in the end? Fact of the matter is, Susie is rent free about Noelle now. It's going to take up time and rob every other relationship of good on screen interactions. Yeah maybe Kriselle or some other ship becomes canon in the end, but who cares when a good chunk of the last remaining chapters will be spent on resolving Suselle. You're still left with dogshit for the last two chapters.
>>742062021I can see the right being mew mew the only thing they messed up is the lower section.
>>742060494is jarona like the tf2 snipers jarate? is golden flower meant to be code for something related to pee?
>>742061717I'll never forgive Toby for making Kriselle perfection just to NTR Kris with Susie. It's fucked up.
>>742062198I feel like it probably doesn't change anything, but it would be really weird if you could only do it for a few of them and not all. And there's no way for me to confirm its impossible
>>742062021You are onto nothing. Keep going
>>742062218I would immediately go to the steam forums and spam nigger.
>>742062218
>>742061658To me Seth is Dess and Orange is Noelle.
>>7420622180/10
>>742062218"That's really stupid and pointless, what was the whole point of that then? Is Toby insecure about his own writing now and he's backtracking?" would be my reaction.
>>742062285They're just trying to mentally deal with getting rugpulled after 8 years bro leave them be
>>742062148>>742062147>>742062143Pink is joining Castle Town after this chapter. She can't be the shopkeeper, who is telling Orange straight up that she'll remain in the shop. It's either the table flower, or the manga theory is true.
Noelle and Kris's relationship (outside of WR) confuses the shit out of me. I can't make heads or tails of it.
>>742062257>...and wash awaaayyyy WHAAAAT I'VE DOOOOOOONE"
>>742062237>end up like DessStop reading fanonWhat things in the game establishes that she is anything but a normal kid?
>>742062070>as another plantner, cactus would've been another human-like creatureWE WERE FUCKING ROBBED
>>742062218KEK
>>742062101>Even if that's the case, they never explained where the fucking "ghost" possessing the figurine came from.Its the ghost from chapter 2https://youtu.be/V8o1I2lzR08?t=2778
>>742062218>YOUR REACTION?!I'm so fucking tired
>>742062237A twelve pack of beer and hi-beams turned off.
>vaguepost for the better part of the decade>shit on theory faggotsI think toby is a sadist.
>>742062218>let's pretend that didn't happenNow that would really be another Homestuck move
>>742062148>img how the fuck do you get this scene? Wut?
>>742062021Its Mew. She has new dialog after the boss fight.
>>742062218this is literally the worst possible thing that can happen to the story
For me it's the mantis prostitutes
>>742062101>they never explained where the fucking "ghost" possessing the figurine came from.Anon...
>>742062218you joke but the last 5 minutes of Chapter 5 is literally Asgore saying >"I don't really care about any of this shit, I was only playing along plus I have a life to go back to"only the last 5 minutes of Flowery are all that matters in the chapterMew Mew had more plot impact
>>742060902>cuck chair jokes are bannedNever seen a place more joyless than reddit
>>742061467I mean I had that feeling at first but by the diner I realized Asgore was kind of playing along.
>>742061831Those are quite plausible, very good anon.>>742061974Are they amalgamations of people? I don't know if Asgore had much of a relationship with Berdly but maybe his mom from that UT anniversary stream will appear, I'd believe that one more but Alphys fits too well.>>742062101If you knock on the ghost family house during the festival, Maddy's really pissed thst Asgore put her favourite figure on the truck because she considers it a personal thing of hers. After you come back from the lake NTR scene, the figurine is gone. That would explain the Mad ghost took the figurine back in, possibly possesing it, snd happening into that dark crystal Asshora had in Ch4.
Name a more self centered, self masturbatory indie dev that disrespects conventions and his fans as much as Toby.
>>742060664>>742060723
>>742062040>not a plant>actually he's a mushroom thoughmake up your mind
>>742062428It happen after fighting Mew. She promise to stay with Orange until the end.
>>7420616196 will have you fight seam after he takes the crystals from you, giving you the purified crystal or whatever it's calledchapter 7 will probably have the "secret" boss be the true final boss or something that spawns in from the purified crystal which gets you a slightly different flavor of the same ending, because do you really think it'll be that easy to create a new future?
noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle noelle
Toby, my main man, please kick out Hussie out of the writting room, please, listen to me.
I want kris to be happy with some cute girlJapan corrupted Toby with NTR and now its just misery pornjesus christ i cant catch a break with the things i consume
>>742062513Only Noelle matters.
Imagine that chapter 6/7 has extensive Mew Mew dating sim system with ability to call her up on every screen in the game and you keep her number after the game resets allowing for secret ending
>>742062513Susie shut the fuck up
>>742062149Noelle literally has more affinity with you than anyone else
>>742062417He's just a shitposter. Deltarune is his grand shitpost. He's laughing at everyone who takes this game seriously.
>>742062476Susie needs you to be the third wheel
>>742061563I feel like>you're going to have to play through multiple times>and collect different flags on multiple save files>time travel and dimension hopping!is the biggest cope. I don't believe chapter 7 is going to retroactively add a whole game worth of content when it's taking him nearly 10 years to finish the normal route, especially now that he's skipping half the game for the alternate route.
>>742062351Pink is the shopkeep, she's telling Kris she'll join you in Castle Town after spending some time with their friends until the fountain closes.
>>742062480>Never seen a place more joyless than redditHow about here when jannie goes full 404?
>>742062519>Please kick your biggest inspiration, hero and boyfriend from your lifeLmaoI bet the flower troons are 100% toby's idea as his version of the Homestuck Trolls.
>>742062021>>742062431>posting the off model version
>>742062476>NTRruneWho raped and ntr'd tobby?
>>742062482I think it's more likely Asgore put the doll and some other shit back inside the shop after the festival was over. The ghost can't move the doll in the real world.
>>742062363kris distanced himself from noelle for whatever reason after dess disappeared, causing her to effectively go on autopilot until the weird route some lines from her imply she was actually pretty pushy with kris, which may explain her conflicted feelings about their relationship as kids, but if kris starts acting like he used to noelle falls right back into how they used to be with a smile on her face, and if not she goes back to her doubts and distance
>>742062513Keep talking [soul]
>>742062363it’s the weirdest case of having a past childhood friend that teetered the fine line of being romantic and platonicmaking it so the way Noelle acts around Kris feeling confusing as shit, prob because she doesn’t really understand her feelings either outside of pre-CH5 WR which hints at her feeling being deeper after Kris came to fix things
>>742062275>noelle love kris more than i think she even realizesI think this is true for both Susie and Noelle.
>indoctrination cope is still going strongbros.... just give into the yuri...you'll like it.
>>742062486Everyone else is masturbating their fondness for Brand
>>742062513That's my wife
>>742062472that alphys is cute and fuckable
>>742062218I kneel...
>>742062576What if the development is taking ages due to them preparing all the time travel content together with the first run one
>>742062587>Please kick your biggest inspiration, hero and boyfriend from your lifeYes
>>742060547yeah she's just an airhead
>>742062513Wrong game Grimm
>>742062583But i love when that happens because everyone starts relentlessly dunking on the jannie
I'm such a happy cuck
>>742062472Yeah, this shit is retardedYou're telling me every character that doesn't know shit about the Dark World is going to conveniently ignore the closet?
>>742062351Anon please stop
>>742062513Susie chapter 5:
>>742062672shut up kris
>Noelle as a child is stated to be a brat that drags Kris everywhere instead of the shy timid girl she parents herself as.
>>742062672Toby...
>>742060547He thinks>knives = yandereI guess
So does non-weird genocide have any impact so far?
>>742062708hack theory is arguments are piling up... cope theory bros how do we cope...
>>742062601Me, if this doesn't stop.
>>742062659My poor baby...
>>742062659What happens if you attack seth?
Can toby let me fuse hammer of justice and devilsknife? Also black shard and aqua’s knife? I need that fusion dopamine even if I just Act
Is there any differences during ending of 5 if you do a violent route?
>>742062513true
>>742062218alright now THAT would be some real hack shit
>>742062637>just give into the yuri...you'll like it.Fuck off Netanyahu
>>742062021it would be pretty cool if it was actually a secret, 3rd Mew Mew from the Grimdark sequel Alphys rants about from asgore's manga. kinda wished we got that character instead of mad dummy redux.
>>742062672I unironically enjoyed being cucked this chapter. The despair is really the true kino Toby was gunning for. Kris and I. He doesn't want you to like Suselle, he wants you to like being cucked. And I do.
>>742062508Coulda been neat if she actually did and the Flowery fight had an extra phase if you beat her. She was larping as a flower, after all.
>>742062637if someone could ignore all of the yuri up until ch5 they have the power to ignore all the yuri in ch5
>>742062672Tobi kistune-sama... on yonchan.... masaka.....
More NTR. Seriously, why the fuck is Deltarune so packed with NTR? https://x.com/softlacymelody/status/2070870637942350301
>>742062604Thst is possible too, but I think Maddy being so angry about other people seeing the doll has to have some significance. Ghosts can hold things, maybe she just stormed in with it and put it back where it was.
>>742062849>I unironically enjoyed being cucked this chapter.Toby...
>>742062818You can't even fight most flowersTruly the NTR chapter
>>742061735The secret boss is the Knight, in the sense that it's a secret that you can actually beat them.The first time around in CH3, without a completion file, you lose and then the chapter ends without any second chances. Of course, now it's probably pretty well known that you can and should beat them, but that's not the point.
>>742062601You know Toby's first girlfriend dyked out and dumped him, right?It explains the NTR in DELTARUNE, it's just his fetish.
>>742062373>The survivalist gear in her room.>The multiple stories of her breaking stuff, stealing an ICE-E machine, and other acts of petty crime.>Her association with rock and punk music.>The multiple stolen items in her messy bedroom (at least one being stolen from Asriel, an ostensible friend).>The other multiple stories of her encouraging bad habits in Kris and bonking them on the head with her BASEBALL BAT when they bothered Noelle.>The myriad tomboyish clothing items that don't befit the eldest daughter of the town's mayor.
>>742062476God damn Susie you're already cucking Kris let him fuck his Mew Mew plush in peace!
It's out
>>742062751Loli Kris and Loli Noelle together ToT...
>>742062046>Kris still hates his asswhat a fag, he deserved to get raped by noelle
Remember that Anon who genuinely promised he would murder Toby if he made Suselle canon? Where is that guy now, I wonder?
my wife
>>742062275seeing shit like this makes me not really blame anons like >>742060178 for saying shit like this because what the fuck
>>742062607>Everything back then, was just... my imagination.>You were just... doing what I made you.>...>(Just like...)
>>742062486I like this.
Cumming inside Ralsei again
>>742062751>bossy and boisterous kid becomes insecure and self conscious when they're a teenager many such cases
Why was Orange even a mouse anyway?
>>742062879>Japan themed chapter>has lots of NTRIt's a mystery
>>742061450Imagine telling someone pre-Chapter 5 that there were gonna be people that think an anime girl figurine is a better choice for Kris than Susie or Ralsei
>>742062879Wait you can actually get someone other than ralsie?
>>742062774no, but i imagine not recruiting will come up as little more than a few lines of dialogue when we have to seal castletown
>>742061619Seam in CH6 for sure, dudes probably been intentionally pushing you to get stronger for whatever reason
>>742062576I don't think it's going to be quite another full game of brand new content, but I think he'll allow the players to load a completed save file into earlier chapters and get new content that way.We already see some progress being logged outside of the save file, such as shadowcrystals being saved to the save slot instead. And now we have Side-B being given a new hidden set of save files just for it. I don't think it'll be quite the route to a brand new ending but it won't be insignifigant either.
Can flowrey ACTUALY mercy ralsei and susie? Wonder if you can let him "pacify" you and if youbget anything special for it
we must be better men
>>742062637i will never bend the knee to yuripedotranniesi will die standing if it comes down to it
>>742062897Have you ever been a teenager?
>>742062895lmao, didn't knew, no wonder the fixation and need to place them in a bad light too
>>742062906>that mini Susie with antlers
>>742061881Ch6 will be Seam (your greatest FRIEND) to end the shadow Crystal plot, ch7 will have no secret boss
>>742062363https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byUCuhB8r5Q
>>742062670Mindbreaking stupid fucking janitors is the most fun thing to do in this shithole
Fuck...!!! I need fat femkris art...!!!!!
>>742061076>I've noticed that the handful of guys here who are spamming that chapter 5 is shit are all obsessed with NTR.Nope. Toby is obsessed with NTR, people are just outraged by it.
>>742059678I've defeated Pink. Please draw her in a dogeza pose kneeling next to her clothes and stupid bombs.
>>742062927There's no way anything related to deltarune could have any payoff
>>742060178You should just commit suicide already.
>>742062637
>>742062363They are the "destined pair" that somehow ends with one getting together with someone else like the tree cake meme says.
>>742063047>picContext?
>>742059678The game is not in need of saving so OPs question is dumb.
>>742063061my dick agrees with this idea
>promise an "inferno of jealousy">use it as an excuse to have an ntr chapterBRAVO TONY
>>742060527
>>742062951>Japan themed chapter>made an ethic man a ballerina>make him wise and did no wrong
>>742062814faints, aqua carries seth away thinking it's a sleeping game
Is Toby going to be this generation's Kojima (la creatividad)?
>>742062513I don't remember posting this
>>742062659>NumbersHuh... so it's all flowers who have meta knowledge, not just Flowery
>>742062932VAGUE...POST...THE...VIDEOGAME...
>>742062879Taps sign
>>742060234In the end everyone wanted human lolis.
>>742062672>you now remember all the asgore kekposting during ch3+4 initial release
https://litter.catbox.moe/ewidf3nlx3gnkhz7.jpg
>>742063025full?
>>742059678Jesus Christ people, this isn't Dostoyevsky, their arcs are parallels to one another.>Susie is someone who LARPs as this reckless, violent, cold-blooded bad bitch, but in reality she's a romantic who is starving for warmth, affection, closeness, a sense of belonging, and magic.>Noelle is someone who LARPs as this perfect, studious, preppy girl, obedient and always willing to help, while in reality she's filled with coldness, disdain for those around her, and a longing for freedom, including the darker aspects of life.And both of them wants from the other what is their respective LARP, not their real selves.
>>742063159>litter
>>742062951So the problem is with the chapters? Can you explain the Mom NTR in Chapter 4 then?
>>742062879you took too long bro
Wait because noelle is subconsciouslly based on andrew hussie and kris is based on tobythis means that hussie was forcing toby into a "suicide pact" aka down the same route of homestuck and toby couldn't do anything except proceed
>>742062964Seam is really just waiting for the right time, fucking ERAM.
>>742062638What a weird way to say they respect the video that give them money.
>>742060712She's third best human behind Frisk/Chara. If all of them were as good as her we would be in paradise.
Loving sex with OrangeShe keeps insisting she can take the entire thing but she simply cannot
>>742063235It's not the same ok
>>742063219>le wall of textthe dino isn't fucking ME therefore this is an NTR game
>>742063096Janitor hated e-celeb that made content related to game, spent his free time deleting any mention or picture related to him or his site with info on the game.Eventually a couple of guys started spamming him and the janny spent 2 hours deleting every single post but couldn't ban anyone because the mod told him to stop being such a fucking crybaby, aftermath is that after 2 hours and a half of seething and deleting posts he gave up and stopped being a janny (according to the mod that we later contacted through the chat)
>>742061109Oooohh kek
Ralsei is funnier when he's being a little bitch instead of a faggy softboi
>>742062148>>742062431>>742062845Darkners are weird, and Mew Mew figure clearly knows a lot about her fictional counterpart. So maybe both the manga Mew Mew and the figurine combined into a single darkner with a wider range of emotions, msybe it's both.>>742062351>>742062021>speaks in a completely different mannerDude, she has the Mad Ghost's vocal tic of yelling things three times. It's one of the earliest hints thst she is the mad ghost. Actually talk to her next time you play.
>>742063119blue was a humiliation ritual, but not for ushe's a literal gay nigger from outer space and the troons have to accept him or else they'll be declared racists and bigotsmeanwhile we got aqua, seth, and green
>>742063221bold choice to depict dummyghost aa vaguely female instead of a disgruntled 40 year old balding man
>>742063159I wish Flower Man had gotten a vocal alt if you beat Pink first.
>>742063275Called it, blue is going to be a cancer to the human character
>>742062906i'm waiting for overswung kino personally
Only now got to play it. Well I was somewhat right, but right enough that I am statisfied
>>742062959I think Ralsei could still potentially have a chance... if whatever the hidden plot between him and Kris ever gets revealed in a way that allows it, and the darkners don't disappear at the end. That's a lot of ifs though, and Mew Mew even drops some of them so she'd have higher chances.
>>742062751It sounds more and more like the nature of their "friendship" was the opposite of what most people though.Kris wasn't the weird bully; Noelle was.
>>742060998Yes.
>>742063235Chapter 4 also had the cuck closet scene and chapter 2 the ferris wheel and Undertale had the Mad mew mew Undyne crush angle.
>>742063235>Mom NTRToriel is divorced though. And Sans really screwed up sure, but he filled up your house's fridge before he left and even took out the trash.
>susie's gone completely narcissistic>outright covers up the heros on the deltarune (symbolizing that they are less important to her than the adventures themselves)>kris is 'the third wheel' thats only needed because he's outright mandatory for the adventures (closing the fountains)>susie's taken pretty much everything that kris likes for herself.>LOVE FINDS ITS WAY TO THE GIRL>LOVE finds its way to the girl>that specific imagery of a heart in the chest>susie noticing kris's soul in CH4this line isnt about suselle, its about susie trying to claim the soul for herself so that she can just ditch kris and have the fun adventures on her own.
>>742063291If you think they're going to end up together in a happy relationship then you really are some zoomer who has never been in a relationship.
>>742063043I swear everything would be fixed if someone who's not Ralsei or his parents would just give Kris a hug, be Susie, Noelle, Berdly, hell even Catti, there's no excuse to not realize that the only human in town is deeply hurt inside and his physical condition has only worsened.
>>742063358Actually fucking kino if true.Little girls are in fact the most evil creatures alive
>>742062927clearly on his way to toby's house
>>742063106So if someone was standing in front of Kris here they would see....
some people thought ralsei was being really ooc with flowery but i got the sense that they sort of knew each other from way back. am i just imagining things?
Normalfags not ready to beat the game only for the after-credits to say "AREN'T YOU FORGETTING SOMETHING IMPORTANT?"
Honestly, this dark world was literally perfect for weird route, could have had the most impactful scenes.
>>742063316
EggFricker Status. Reported. https://files.catbox.moe/0i34t7.mp4
>>742063419>Normalfagsnigga you think delta is niche or something?
>>742063384>Gets actually possessed by us and regrets itThat would be neat
>>742063416It did come off that way to me too. Which i guess could be used as fuel for the plantsei theory
>>742063416Well, they are both plants aren't they?
>>742063416I think they have some weird connection via the flowey-asriel thing so yeah I got the same kind of impression
hmm...
>>742063358No, Noelle spells it out- she's too submissive and meek to gain her own freedom and assertiveness, so she's looking for people who will force her to change.So she'd be the kid who hangs around Kris and subtly pushes him into mischief and getting dragged into it, because secretly she gets off to it.Later on in life that focus switches towards Susie, but now she's not a kid and can't really push her buttons like she'd want to.
>>742062486Toby was never a good artist, this was established since Undertale. Plus, his hands are fucked up now, aren't they? Learn to take a joke.Also >sukebanWhere's fucking Nirvana?
>>742063119I think Blue did nothing wrong, he's a level-headed straight man and an overall good person, it's just that he was another victim of Toby's queergayboner.
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>>742061409Even Undertale was vagueposting until the end. Enjoy it.
>>742063106Don't mind me just pirating this flower.
>>742062498Plants are not the same thing as mushroomsOpen the schools
>>742063467kino
>>742063358>Noelle was the bully>Kris still got punished by Dess who thought he was the shitheadMan Krissy's childhood is so scuffedNo wonder he's such a weirdo
>>742063475>possess susie>immediately try to torpedo her relationship with susie
>>742063416i also got that sense, but since it's never expanded upon or explained i figured it was just shit writing either way
mating press
>>742063316I liked him a LOT more this chapter
>>742062964seam better actually be insane nightmare mode difficulty or i will be immensely disappointed
>>742063384>Love finds it's way to the girl>The girl was meant to be Noelle to begin with>Susie took her position as the 2nd member>Susie will become our vessel in the main route>Nothing will work out because we have no control over Susie>The prophecy is fulfilled as the Knight assumes it's original role (Kris) and kills Susie and the Soul, protecting Noelle like he intended
what if the Knight is not some character we know from Light World? What if it's pure evil construct
>>742063159I need an official Kissy Mew Mew MV so badly.
>>742060130She's western koishi + kogasa
>>742063479>>742063476the what?
>>742062607>kris distanced himself from noelle for whatever reasonThat's something he was forced to do for some reason.
>>742063219>Susie is top-presenting, secretly bottom>Noelle is bottom-presenting, secretly topTheoretically they could work, they just have to be honest with each other and drop their facades.
>>742063558that's what ralsei is too
>>742063416Of course they knew each other. Kris' gay little headband was around them
>>742059678When the most popular theory is ‘the writing is shit on purpose’ you know something got fucked up somewhere.
>>742063489>there is an original timelinewe've already gone over this. The shadow crystals show you the original timeline>Hint: Susie was never the MC, was berdley-tier in the story
>>742060178Anon, this is why the Weird Route exists.Toby knows Suselle is ass, but he wants us to earn our happy ending.
>>742063384>Susie gets the SOULUh, what happens if we [Proceed]?
>>742062218ngl I legitimately thought that was how the weird route ended and I was so mad and betrayed for a second there
>>742063106
>>742062046Huh he didnt say that in mine but then hsi arm is broken
>>742063557>>Susie will become our vessel in the main routeNoelle, not Susie, which is why she has unique item descriptions in the datamines.
>>742063439We were robbed. Killing Aqua, Seth and the others would have been PURE KINO
>>742062897NTA, but,>The survivalist gear in her room.She had some MREs stashed under her bed. I think that's more quirky than abnormal.>Her association with rock and punk music.Bog standard teen stuff.>The multiple stolen items in her messy bedroom (at least one being stolen from Asriel, an ostensible friend).While I'm sure some of it was stolen, there's nothing to imply that Asriel didn't just give her some of his things, he did have a crush on her after all.>The other multiple stories of her encouraging bad habits in Kris and bonking them on the head with her BASEBALL BAT when they bothered Noelle.It was a whiffle ball bat, which are super light plastic. It would hurt for sure, but not do any serious damage.>The myriad tomboyish clothing items that don't befit the eldest daughter of the town's mayor.Again, bog standard teen stuff.Stealing an ICE-E machine is pretty intense for a regular teen, I'll give you that. But mostly it sounds like a girl rebelling against her rigid, authoritarian mother by being as wild as possible.
I'm going to Noelle
>>742063316If only he hadn't been a walking vagueposter most of the chapter. I liked him so much more in this chapter compared to the rest just because of how reactive he was, but seriously, how long is Toby going to have him hold off on explaining shit?Also, why does he hide both times they run into Asgore, but when them meeting is inevitable, Asgore doesn't comment much on him? Just says that he kind of looks like Asriel, but also that he kind of doesn't look like a monster at all. What's going on there?
>>742063619No ring, no trance, no proceed
>>742063475>susie steals us from kris>one of our first options is "slit susie's throat"would you let the intrusive thoughts win?
>>742063571Plants have funky dark world interactionsRalsei gets around a lotHe could be something that Kris keeps on himself, but is he?
>>742061758Undertale was good, though.
>>742063508thisI swear to God nobody remembers the game that is the basis of all this and the amount of schizotheorizing that surrounded it
>>742063498>>742063321It's funny because if you pay attention to the colors of Asgore's loved ones during his flashback after the Flowery fight and take them literally, Blue's personality is likely based on Toriel. Or what she used to be like I guess.
>>742063596the hussman toby worked for did purposely drop homosuck in the middle of his work as a parody in act 6, so deltarune might be closely following
>>742063581>Kriselle is the doomed perfect couple>Kris is in some aspects Toby's self-insert>Kris's first girlfriend dyked out and dumped him#noticing
>NTR is a fetishized blackpill>Yuri fetish develops as an autogynephilic coping mechanism, essentially a false whitepill>NTRanny now soothes his ego by imagining himself as a female bullFrom here, one of the following can happen:>1. Troon out, get rejected by real women, realize you will never be a real woman, kill self>2. Troon out knowing from the start you will never be a real woman, do it anyway for cynical reasons, become a groomer or rapehon, go to jail>3. Don't bother trooning out because you already know it doesn't work, still promote cuckoldry, yuri, and trannies anyway just to drag down the world around youToby is very clearly number 3.
>>742063650caroling in june? weird
>>742063498He arrogant with none of the Flowey negative side. Every other flowers has their flaw but not the space blue faggot. It will be racist if you do.
>>742063581It's because if he didn't, Noelle would have assumed the position of the 1st girl, the 2nd hero. By pushing her away he delayed her join order making her into the 4th hero. Whatever this means, it likely will result in Noelle being saved.
>>742063416What if deltarune isn't a precursor to undertale but rather undertale was a precursor to deltarune.
>>742062237midwest emo is a phenomenon because your life is so safe and boring that you have to find ways to fuck shit up for yourself on purpose due to sheer boredom
>>742063475>Susie: "Wait, I can't move. I. . . I'm not doing this. What is this? Kris, help me. I didn't want this. I never knew . . .">Kris speaks on his own for the first time: "Yes, you did. How do you feel?">Susie: "I feel fantastic" <3 "Please help me. I'm sorry"
>>742061836She was literally designed for our kind
>>742063416Ralsei being a plant makes a lot of sense at this point. Explains why he's able to follow the gang to every single dark world without petrifying (without just having to say "uhhh he's a SPECIAL darkner"). Because he's not a darkner, and whatever his plant form is it's spread across or under the whole town so he's everywhere (roots?)
>>742062751But she totally doesn't have feelings for Kris of course. Thatd be weird
>>742062637>just give into the yuri...you'll like it.Never
>>742063384if susie takes (Me) away from kris i'll make sure to do everything in my power to make her regret everything she's ever done in her life
What should I name my YouTube channel for the NTR deltarune lore video essay?
>>742063494>she's too submissive and meek to gain her own freedom and assertiveness
>>742063003That's Kriselle, dummy
>>742063668AlwaysIt would be even better if it doesn't lead to a game over but also doesn't spare susie of the action even if we're forced to do everything as a heart
>>742063604It goes even farther than that IMOShe was the antagonistShe was the tail of hell take crawl
>>742063604I'm telling you, Kris gave up their role of protagonist to Susie and throwing her under the prophecy's bus, the problem is that the little shit also fell in love with Susie
>>742063571the only lore thing that ch.5 expanded upon is that plants seem to be "special" darkners in some waysralsei plantner theory was a "thing" before, and this kind of helps itdepends on who you ask but one of the ideas is that ralsei is a darkner that represents the entire hometown forest, and that's why he can appear anywhere
Berdly will grow up to be a flight bird and Noelle will regret not having him there to lift her to the sky.
>>742063630No, Susie. Noelle is not our vessel. Noelle is assuming the position of the 4th hero in the main route, the Rude Buster girl. Which should have been Susie. The prophecy already changed the roles of those two because of Kris.
>>742063728one of the endings is going to reveal that Undertale existed before or Undertale is the sequel to one of the endingsI wonder if the Holidays NOT being in Undertale means that they either got killed, or won and got out of the game, like they wanted to
>>742063416>>742063759Ralsei is a pine tree. Or a Christmas tree. It fits everything too damn well.
>>742063632It will happen in Chapter 7 Side B, trust the plan.
>>742063782Poopy buttholeMake sure to mention the TreeCake.
>/v/ acting surprised when the chapter released during pride month has gay shit in it
>mad mew mew is the final shadow crystal holder because.... SHE JUST IS OKAY
>>742063759The golden seed packet you get at the end of the chapter has a whole bunch of warning labels on it. Hmm...Also random thought but has it ever been said what season the game is set in? Are the trees always golden orange?
>>742063604HMMM.....
>>742063604The original timeline is the one where the ARG stuff takes place right? like the one where Kris says something to Susie that makes her mad and storm out of he classroom?
>>742062035People loved 3 and 4. The reception at this point was far more positive.
>>742063585They can't work because Noelle has no romantic feelings towards Susie whatsoever. She needs her as a means of attaining her own freedom and assertiveness. There's no love there.Which is why even on the Normal Route she constantly has those warm feelings about Kris. Couple that with what she says on the Weird Route, and it's obvious it's a one-sided love, only from the opposite end of what we thought previously.
>>742063384>susie trying to claim the soul for herselfSo a monster with a human soul?
>>742063837hmmmm almost like games shouldn't be released in episodes
>Yuri is the highest form of literature. The lesbian romance? The handholding? The trials and the tribulations? Peak fiction.>BUT. That's only one part of it. to truly appreciate it you need NTR. Watching the girl you like get swept away by your middle school bully while you just sit there in your chair helplessly. Absolutely amazing. Suselle is canon because I wanted to combine the ultimate highs of romance with the agonizing despair of a romantic cuckoldry sub-plot. it's the perfect narrative cocktail.>Look forward to chapter 6 in 2027!
I desperately need to have vicious sex with kitsune aqua
>>742063876She got it when Ralsei and Susie cucked Kris out of cat threesome
I think I understand why Kris looks so fucking depressed at the endThe plan is falling apart, Susie is set on bringing Noelle back into the mix, and they got the codes to the bunker, the prophecy is getting back on track and all the conspiracies and actions they've taken to prevent it have been for naught.
>>742063837The last act of Undertale is laden with heavy exposition dumps though isn't it
>>742061325Blatant Homestuck reference, btw.https://youtu.be/B6e2XacZSIs
>>742063581Someone should edit this to add Noelle's reaction to you giving Tenna away right in front of her, since it confirms she was the girl Ramb was talking about.
>>742063728my retarded schizotheory i've had since chapter 1 is that Asriel never really relinquished the power he had at the end of true pacifist, and Deltarune is just him fucking around with the universe now that he's a god. Gaster's exempt from it somehow and sent us in either to get himself nooticed by Asriel and restored or to break his control
>>742062576Didn't he already mention that there's no plans of using the different save files to affect each other in an interview?
>>742063751I really want Kris to speak because it would be kino.But there are plenty of times where he speaks, on-screen, to the other characters without our input and we just don't see it, so that's kinda weird
>>742062476susie in chapter 4 wouldn't have done this. she really doesn't let kris have something in life at least, even burgerpants got to have a real gf in this episode. the mew mew darkner can date kris and the ghost can date asgore now that she's a cute catgirl too. suselle loses and whoriel loses.
>>742063818>ralsei plantner theory was a "thing" before, and this kind of helps itinteresting. what the heck was the evidence for it before now?
>>742063632anon they're not dead as long as somebody takes care of them properly asgore kept them alive for over 20 years when they were only supposed to live for a day, their dark world was a dream but they all knew and were accepting of that, because if they stayed they would actually die
>>742063930Technically (you) are above a human soul
>>742063976yup there's a hall outside of asgores castle where they just dump lore on you
>>742063384If I have to pilot Susie for any reason I am going to make her life as bad as possible.
>>742063416If a character suddenly does a 180 on their personality without a clear reason then I assume it's shit writing. People have been making vague connections and assumptions since ch1 to justify dumb shit happening but it never bears fruit. So it's just bad writing as far as I'm concernedSame with people coping about Susie being rent free about Noelle so suddenly and how its the prophecy fucking with her.
>>742063893>90% of all new artwork is about the Weird Route>Nobody gives a fuck about the Normal Route's story outside the Cuckening.You have one job, Toby. Yes, you can change the story halfway through, nobody will be mad.
>>742062879Authors undisguised fetish
>>742063964>pudding!
>>742062513Susie...
>>742063837By this logic, we should get the biggest lore dump since that's what half of New Home basically wasThe vagueposting should just end starting from chapter 6
>>742063837Remind me, how many years were in between the releases of snowden and hotland?
>>742062513Definitely not a Mary Sue.
WHERE IS THE SCHIZOANON THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO POST HIS COLLAGE??DID HE BETRAY US LIKE SUSIE?!!
>>742063774shot>>742063790chaser
>>742064072Is this the full pic?
>>742063834Anon, the Holidays do exist in Undertale. The alarm clock dialogue confirms it.
>>742063604There's also the fact that freshly installed new games start with kris' name already in a save slot
>>742061450>And then finally the other 25%>UHMMM, DON'T CARE CHUDS, SUSIE AND NOELLE ARE THE CUTEST AND MOST ADORABLE COUPLE I'VE EVER SEEN AND THEY HAVE THE SWEETEST ROMANTIC ARC EVER WRITTEN INTO FICTION AND YOU'RE ALL JUST HOMOPHOBES WHO DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE THE GAME AND YOU ALL HATED SUSIE ALL ALONG MEDIA LITERACY MEDIA LITERACY MEDIA LITERACYFrom what I saw on the suselle section it was almost all celebratory with very little concern for kris or other shippers. They thought suselle as it happened was 100% organic and normal. There was no talk of conspiracies or Toby setting the relationship up to fail. Only the most minir concern for Kris but justified it as him being a creep who never took the initiative to shoot his shot.
>>742062879>Seriously, why the fuck is Deltarune so packed with NTR?Even NTR artists are on their knees before Toby. He's just too good at writing NTR stories.
>>742061703Gaster being a cartel leader was not something i was expecting
>>742063837>chapter Hotland.>still only being dripfed Flowey hints>Undyne hints at wanting a certain nerd in her bedroom>Papundyne fans in shambles, coping about how Papyrus is actually a nerd.>Still no confirmation about why the snowman piece is important.>Finally get the answer for why there's an in-game flag for buying a spider-donut in chapter 1>it just changes one line of dialogue without any real gameplay impact.>Tricky Tony has lost his touch>Doesn't even bother using the amazing theme from the Andonuts fight.
>>7420640890But the years between ruins and hotland is 2 years
Fuck bros I don't want to wait til June 2027 for chapter 6
>>742063895i'm noooooooooticing>>742063908that's my best guess, yeah
>>742060712I liked seth tooOrange and green are fun alsoBlue is the only one that looks super out of place, and yellow feels like a one-off joke character that overstays its welcome
I do somewhat theorize that Susie or Noelle will get the soul and there may be a "fight" against Kris but that may be too fanfic-tier. There is a clear divide between the two groups though.
>>742062237That have a negroni, have two guy who got cucked by shota dick and hung himself wrote in his biography he had a loving supportive artsy household and he still raged and became an edgy druggie cook because of it.>>742063915Maybe susie will become an antagonist rather than Kris because Noelle'll have second thoughts about dating and want out. That feels like cope though, more likely it's played legit like since uwu yuri.>>742062035The problem with falsehoods is forgetting people can check the archives and see how incorrect that is.
>>742063469it's not niche but not for normies either, it has the same type of fan base as steven universe, the amazing digital circus, hazbin hotel, etc
>>742063908digitigrade ankles and heels hnngghhghhGGHH FUCKKKKK
>>742063837Do you even get to know that Asriel and Chara exist until their reveal?
>>742064102Besides kicking butt what else does she do?>>742064129yes
ENTERA SAVIOR
>>742063837hotland corresponds to ch3, ch5 is supposed to be snowden in reverse theory explaining mew mew, but if looking at progression its supposed to be parallel to the core, which was able to finishg resolving alphys and mettaton's character arcs in a satisfying way while carrying the rising action to the climax. ch 5 just had asgore schizo out over his notes and then briefly performing his entire character development in a single spiel before getting kidnapped
>>742064182And the years between ch 1 and 5? 5 and 6? 6 and 7?The tranny has no argument against this
Am I stupid or am I understanding right that the Soul is in fact not Determination, but rather the opposite trait of it like the flowers, Obsession? Since the Queen said Determination was something all Lightners possess...
>>742063973So we are in a second loop?... It's actually quite crazy wow. Maybe "nothing changed" is from Kris's perspective.
>>742063517wtf are you talking about? mushrooms are plants dumbass, they grow out of the ground and drink water
>>742063837>"dude we haven't we found out about any-"Undertale takes a few hours to beat, not at all compared to how long deltarune is. If undertale was released in chapters it'd be rightfully shit on for each chapter being incredibly short and released over the span of 10 years. Xitter white-knights sure do love seeming smart by saying the dumbest shit so confidently.
>>742063003That's Dess as the Vessel
>>742061409
>>742063818Asriel being a flower in Undertale probably
What's the lore reason behind chapter 5 having a lot of cuckshit?
>>742063549i mean, he solo sealed Jevil, ended up also being a KNOWER thanks to him, clapped everyone in a fight in castletown, and somehow knows about the crystal locationshe better be be throwin hands in a fight
>>742064173>Finally get the answer for why there's an in-game flag for buying a spider-donut in chapter 1>it just changes one line of dialogue without any real gameplay impact.Can't you skip Muffet's battle if you eat whatever you brought back then right in front of her?
>>742063869Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it was.gonna be gay. We just didn't expect the NTR. We thought he would retcon Kris feelings to be platonic.
>>742062845absolutely deserved, both of you niggas>>742062837>>742062849
>>742063658I guess because he's not sure what Asgore's state of mind is. At the end of the chapter it's clear Asgore knows enough of the Dark World to know Ralsei is not Asriel.
>>742064037Bro Ralsei was full of shit since the second he appeared
>>742060346"Pink" is just mewmew figurine turned darkener + maddie pretending to be a flower.
>>742064330ero games
Guys can we please start calling the player "You" instead of (You) it makes coming back to read replies a pain in the asslike I get the joke haha but it's been 10 years let's let it go already
>>742064316Fans would rape tobby
>>742064330The general theme of Chapter 5 is Jealousy
>>742064254This is a Yellow thread
>>742063989That's actually close to one of my earliest theories about DR, Ralsei being pacifist Flowey. But in my theory he escaped UT's timeline using the same method that Gaster used and ended up in the DR dark world.
>>742063338Blue was a mistake
>>742064330To emphasize how your choices don't matter and that everyone is running on a script
>/v/ waited months for yuri and NTR baitcan we just call Toby a hack and move on already?
>>742064330Toby Fox's first relationship ended when she broke up with him because she found out she actually was into girls.Imagine your first love ending because your girlfriend realizes she likes GIRLS, not you.
>>742064037i mean susie starts laughing because it's so weird and straight up asks ralsei why he's suddenly such a hater and ralsei just evades the question. if that's seriously not foreshadowing and is literally nothing at all, THAT would be the pinnacle of shit writing
>>742063159What's with the cloud in the corner?
>>742064442>only monthseheheahahahahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>742064316>Toby says he'll continue side B >but he never does (like undertale hard mode)your reaction?
>>742064330Japanese theme chapter
>>742063989i am Gaster's... top guy? W.D. Gaster needs me ?
>>742060346Yeah and I'm a flower
>>742064330The last prophecy said that in the final days, all will be cucked
>>742064351honestly, I forgot, and the fight was never hard enough to warrant it. I just remember the line about buying a pastry changing to never killing a spider.
>>742064330The writers explicitly stated fetish
>>742063890the game has a lot of halloween and chistmas influence in itif i had to pin a specific month i'd probably go with november, which would be mid - late autumn
>>742064247Everybody is obsessed with her, she’s pretty much the most important character in the game.
>>742064203noelle fight is inevitable considering she is yet another freedom-obsessed nigger
OH MY GOD KRIS HAS THE BLUE ROSE TITLE BECAUSE BLUE ROSES ARE A SYMBOL OF UNREQUITED LOVE AAAA
>>742064445Is this true
>>742063685Everything involving Chara, Sans and Gaster was vagueposting lol
>>742064254I'm really surprised at how much he grew on me.
>>742064476Where are their penises?
>>742064570It is.
>DUDE DEVICE THEORY WAS PROVEN RIGHTnigga everything in Deltarune being diegetic has been something we've known since Undertale what the fuck why do people keep referencing this tranny's 8 hour long essay on the most basic meta narrative detail its like step one of understanding Undertale and Deltarune
>>742062513Me...
>>742064558Are you sure it isn't just a Twin Peaks reference
>>742064597In my mouth
>>742064408…full of homosexuals? Yep YEP. That tracks
>>742064330I posit that Tobias is a slave to japanese writing conventions
>>742063467Context: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571729014/#q571733525https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/571737434/#q571739384I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE FART KNOCKER THE 25TH! YOU HAVE SHAMED NORTH KOREA WITH YOUR BOGUS, BAMBOOZLING TOBY IMPERSONATIONS FOR THE FINAL TIME! YOU AND YOUR FART POWERS WON’T SAVE THE SOUTH FROM BEING BLOWN TO SMITHEREENS BY OUR GREAT MISSILE HWASONG AND THE REST OF OUR ICBMS!
>>742064543She's popular, but mary sue is someone that cannot fail and do everything perfectly Noelle if anything might be the hidden MC
>>742063106>>742062659She needs msrp, stat!>>742063964>>742064072Aqua!
>>742064372So what, are you going to try and tell me that his whole personality throughout ch1-4 has just been an act? He was secretly a salty chud all this time?
>>742064330second act low point, probably
>>742062097It's painful on purpose. If you think this is bad just wait until Kris's plan falls apart and Susie literally kills them in chapter 7. I'm being 100% unironic here. None of you are ready for the pain. If you cannot handle this you really cannot handle what will come next.
>>742064623I want to suck on Pink's win peaks
>>742063043Dude that song hits me really close to home because i grew up in a house where a relative died and it captures the feeling of emptiness when you enter their room perfectly
742064387(You)
>>742064494>love Japan so much you move their and learn Japanese and larp as a Japanese developer>make your love letter to Japan chapter filled with western style fagshit and tumblr character design>don’t forget the constant poking fun and deconstruction of anime tropes that upset you like it’s a seething 2000s cartoonit doesn’t make any sense
>>742064605everyone keeps saying this without providing a source
>>742062938Taking my turn with Ralsei
>>742062363From what i got.>They used to be childhood friends.>Noelle was crushing hard on Kris.>She was rather pushy about it.>Noelle is also a bit of a "freak" who is explicitly the type Chara calls out during Undertale Genocide and willing to do fucked up things in games to break them and/or get all the content>Kris becomes distant, may not actually reciprocated the crush, but still considers her a precious friend and does not want her to be hurt.>As time moves on Noelle "moves on" from her crush because Kris is now distant and "not the same", or rather, is the same but is now hiding that side from her (Piano).>Susie enter the picture>Kris seemingly gets a Crush on Susie.>Noelle "falls" for Susie because she thinks Susie can make her "stop being Noelle". She also probably has some regret/resentment/embarrassment over how things worked out with Kris so she downplays their past in front of her "new" crush, but still cherishes the memories, so if (you) take steps to properly to remind her of those in the right ways she is receptive.Basically, Noelle is doing damage control so Susie won't think she is unavailable and get annoyed if Kris isn't wingmanning her. When Noelle is pushy that's the "real" Noelle, and that she actually shows Kris that side is arguably a sign of closeness BECAUSE she lets the mask slip.Basically Noelle can be a bit of an Ass to Kris BECAUSE she is close, but when she remembers why they are close she warms up due nostalgia. and she isn't gonna gush about her first crush to her prospective love interest.
>>742064162What really surprised me was seeing people unironically and genuinely claim Suselle is the most adorable and best written relationship they've ever seen.Like, come the fuck on. I can only assume it's the ONLY relationship they've ever seen, even if you were totally blind and deaf to all the contextual red flags from the broader story, you'd still have to admit they're just rushing through all the relationship building steps while barely actually spending time together outside of just going through the biggest cliches they can think of at any point. It's like a stereotypical summer holiday relationship, the ones that end with either one or both parts just leaving at the end of the vacation and pretending it didn't happen Grease-style, or the ones where they then have to actually spend a single week together in routine life and find out they can't stand each other.
>>742064558blue roses also can't exist without human involvement
>>742064637what the fuck you bit them off?
>>742063964Based
What's most surprising is that this turned out to be Kris and Noelle>The prince of Darkness was Gaster in the prophecyAre you ready to go to hell with your buddy Gaster to save Dess?
>>742064330>susie entering MAXIMUM COPE mode over the final tragedy or something (or just not having been that good of a person to begin with) and trying to force suselle to keep up the fantasy of being a hero>susie getting acute darkness poisoning from sleeping in the dark world and becoming the prophecy's strongest soldier>the prophecy being an active metaphysical force and forcing suselle>susie actually wrote herself into main character status when she was supposed to be a one-off miniboss like berdley and kriselle was what was supposed to happen in the pre-rewrite timeline>just setup to justify kris pulling an oersted, don't think too much more about itpick yer poison
>>742063709>Toby is very clearly number 3.Looks like it
>>742064330it's literally the theme of the chapter
>>742064330See:>>742063709Take that together with the context of Toby's first girlfriend.
>>742064706all of ch 5 is actually a poorly-conveyed danganronpa reference>t. knower
>>742064706>make your love letter to Japan chapter filled with western style fagshit and tumblr character designHow do Japan bros feel about this?
>>742064669Mary Sues can fail if their failures are cool and only serve to make them look better/misunderstood/have trauma.
>>742064037Ralsei has always been capable of being as mean as Susie, his goodie-two-shoes act is a deliberate front he puts upRalsei's character arc all the way from Chapter 1 has been encouraging him to self-actualize and be more honest and selfishIn the same way that Susie has become more kind and understanding since Chapter 1, leading to their roles essentially being reversed this Chapter (which deliberately and heavily invokes Chapter 1 parallels to emphasize how they've both changed)
>>742062513I'm going to Noelle
>>742064676Have you actually missed him faking it?
>>742063753Sucks that I really only like her because she feels like a bootleg version of some other character. Basically means I didn't like anything about ch5
>>742064671BRING ME THAT NIGGER EDGELORD'S ANTLERS
>>742064792Wait is Toby getting yuricucked a real story?
>>742064782>because ralsei didnt want to do his job of burning down everything in order to force the pacifist route>the inferno is actually the flamewar started by how shit the writing wasbravo toby, dare I say it was ludo kino
Does anybody have a link to the thread when the chapter just dropped? I want to see the explosion in slow motion
>>742064408We actually like Deltarune so no.
you get to live
>>742064213>Maybe susie will become an antagonist rather than Kris because Noelle'll have second thoughts about dating and want out. That feels like cope though, more likely it's played legit like since uwu yuri.No, I honestly think it'll be a Stepford Smiler situation, where Noelle is playing out the part of the good girlfriend.In the Aborted Weird Route she'll probably push back and break up with Susie.
>>742064330Groundwork to support Susie as the next antagonist. Literally no one likes her at this point except for trannies.
>>742064684Saying it's painful on purpose is the same as saying it's shit on purpose. Pain just for the sake of pain is meaningless.
>>742064917A-At least we still have Cactus-chan...
https://youtu.be/dx_GZtA4eV0?t=139https://youtu.be/Xa7-FeBuPkA?t=379i refuse to believe that the knight is not kriss+noelle blended in death
>>742064853I think she can stand on her own outside of Chara and Kris though
>>742064917>She never showed her looks in Chapter 3FUCK, MY TSUNDERE CACTUS
>>742064939nah even the trannies are worried about how she's acting. Everyone agrees there's something wrong with her and she's absolutely at a low point even if she thinks otherwise
>>742064706>constant poking fun and deconstruction of anime tropes that upset you like it’s a seething 2000s cartoonSometimes I wonder if you guys are just playing a different game than me
>>742064748kris might've felt similar to noelle, but never acted on it due to 'that day'if you check the bookshelf at the start, kris will look through some photos but snap the book shut when he gets to the ones with him and noelle, iirc commenting that he 'doesn't need to see them' given how quickly and easily kris slips back into his old dynamic with noelle, we know this isn't out of resentment or because he dislikes herremember, sometimes you need to push away the people you love
>>742064753People just get really cultish about things they like sometimes.There can be no actual criticism, just “doomposting” by jealous haters. And if thing shit the bed so bad they can’t be ignored or handwaved away, they just pretend they always knew it sucked and move on.
>>742064906it was everyone complaining about getting cucked at the festival but begrudgingly continuing. flowery's introduction and aqua + purple was good with toby teasing esoteric human mysticism over meta powers and then everything just went downhill midway through
>>742061076I'm not self-inserting into Kris but everyone in the gang is at their worst here, and I don't like how Susie turned into a Noelle-bot to the point of having a serious argument for brain damage. She goes "home" to Castle Town, decides to throw a surprise party for Noelle in the Dark World and not consider anyone's feelings but her own. You're telling me that she acknowledges how dangerous it's gotten, and yet her FIRST and ONLY thought for extra help was her girlfriend? Who didn't know how to fight (as far as she knows) and just got captured and harassed by Queen the last time she was in a Dark World?
>>742064982It's not, the knight is Rudy.
>>742064330The reaction to Ralsei seeing all that gold was so weird
>>742065030alright but do you have the link
>>742064917>Cactus is the actual plant of the houseYou're now aware of this
>>742064239>it has the same type of fan base as steven universe, the amazing digital circus, hazbin hotel, etcSo literally fucking everyone under the age of 25 and somewhat low standards?
>>742064819>Susie has become more kind and understanding since Chapter 1Only to then throw it all away in chapter 5 and regress like hell.>dude, your dad just got fucking kidnapped>but that doesn't matter>I just want to play house with my girlfriend :D
>>742064982More retarded than rudyknight
>>742062879
>>742064795dog check confirmshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0sDBFqRRD0
>>742064982>Berdly is "dead" but in real life he's still only in "coma" even when frozen and the fountain is closed on his body. What does it mean.
>>742064782>Field of Pink and Gold>no FRIENDwhy?
4 and 5 dark worlds should have been switched
>>742063384Oh please, DO put me in Susie's body.It's gonna be the ultimate expression of fuck around and find out. If I don't have her by the end on her hands and knees apologizing to Kris like crazy first for all the bullying she did and then for the fucking insane identity depth and ghosting she started doing halfway through the story, I'll just go ahead and make her jump off any one of the dark world platforms.
>>742064396Not so much much jealousy as much as wearing masks and pretending to be someone else. On the Normal Route.
>>742063709>Toby is very clearly number 3.This.
>>742064819Ralsei was never this bitter. He constantly let darkners slide for dunking on him, he was never outright mean like he is in ch5. He's playfully teasing at worst with Susie.
>>742065113This is the most tranny-coded shit Toby has ever said and it's not even close.
>>742064706>>make your love letter to Japan chapter filled with western style fagshit and tumblr character designThis made me realize something, why was Flowery the ONLY flower that looked he could resemble an anime character? Why weren't the other flowers anime-inspired as well for consistency?!
>>742060643I know he's mostly Rudy, but this shrug is so Asriel coded it hurts.
>>742064982it's either that or Rudy, he loses to a fucking wall in the same chapter where Rudy injures his leg after falling downit's going to get revealed that being the knight is killing himALTHOUGHwhen Noelle and Kris are drowning in the lake, if you hear closely, whenever you move deeper into the lake you hear the fucking sound effect that the amalgams use, specifically the one room in Undertale that has an amalgam taking a shower
>>742065095tell me 1 reason why i'm wrong and i'll accept itso whats your reason
>>742064956>Pain just for the sake of pain It doesn't have to end here. It can lead to a greater plot and Deltarune has still 2 more chapters.
>>742065180uh... you mean like aqua?
>>742065113Is this an actual quote? why does he speak like he's japanese?
>>742065084https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741769457/
>>742060178Anon I know this cope very well. It's that feeling you get when absolutely nothing makes sense. You just find a thousand explanations because why would they do something so stupid? They can't genuinely think what they wroteV6 w,as good right? It seems completely illogical. Like watching someone earnestly claim that 2 + 2 = 5. You can't understand why they'd ever stick with something so wrong, so clearly, it must be something deeper.But it's not. It never is. The writers are just stupid. They never even thought of something like this. They just did it entirely on accident.
>>742061890FRIEND is the Forest around Hometown.
>>742063796I think the green one looks more like Jevil but i'm not exactly sure what i'm supposed to be looking at here
>Kris seethes when he realizes he didn't actually get to encounter the How To Draw Dragons book darkner in chapter 3
Man I hope she manages to get notable amounts of content in future chapters
>>742065023Well, either that or they just keep pretending they don't see anything wrong with it until the very end when they just drop out of the fanbase and then never pronounce themselves about it again.
>>742063890>>742063759All of the trees in hometown are identical, they're a single organism.Look up Pando in Utah, he's a male clonal organism with 47,000 'trees' (stems) spread over 100 acres.Ralsei completely encompasses hometown with his roots.
>>742065008there’s been people since the ch3+4 came out that believe multiple aspects of DR are being made out of pure spite, so idk what you expect
FRIEND is the friends we made along the way.
>>742065303It's just another jab at theory crafters from Toby.
>>742065261(cont)https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741791183/
>>742064089>But I did have breakfast
>>742065309Reminder that Mew Mew as a ghost can just come with us in adventures as a lightner but Toby would never allow for something that fun
>>742065309Very well your wish is granted. Her content in future chapters is dating Rouxls with graphic, 15 minute long sex scenes calling out you, the player, as a cuckold.
>>742065287That's Ralsei!
>>742065309nope, they're not gonna let another lightner in castle town
>>742065309Hidden what-if route pls
>>742062659IT'S JUST A SIMPLE NUMBERS GAME
>>742065075I'm not sure if I can jack off to this but I will save it and find out later
>>742065095Nice try, but even that isn't that retarded
>>742065293>MemoryheadFunny how the colors are kinda on pointWe would have to fit: the knight, Gerson & Mewmew
>>742065039That's why I think Toby's "it's the last light-hearted romp!" comment was intentionally snide and sarcastic, because the Normal/Aborted Weird routes clearly portray the dynamics between them disintegrating under a veneer of friendliness.
>>742065196ha, no shit, you're right toohttps://youtu.be/pF9Y6h9x834?t=1439https://youtu.be/Mkdy0jy6QsYthis case is closed imo, my money is down and on the table
>>742065421I don't think we will have having fun adventures anymore.
>>742065309I cant believe people actually care about this gag character
>>742063908>>742064241erm, noelle should actually be unguligrade
>>742065309Uh, right. Can we NOT have the gag waste of time and effort character be involved in the most important chapters of the game?
>>742065075Too big
>>742064982It's Noelle in some shape or form. The hit sound is LITERALLY NOELLE'S WHEN FUCKING SPED UP.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=566dcI9ar9A
>>742061076>Kris is a tragic villain.We can't actually decide whether Kris is a villain, and anti-villain, an anti-hero or even just a tragic hero until the story is over and we know what the fuck Kris even actually intends to do.Either way, no, and I'm sick of people acting like the only way to sympathize with a character is by self-inserting.>Also, how is Susie supposed to know that Kris likes them or Noelle?The same way she's figured out Noelle is into her or the same way she somehow figured out there was something between Kris and Noelle, which she suddenly turns stupid on when she directly asks Kris if he likes someone and Kris directly stares at her with a wounded look.Or at least by figuring it out off of the literal purple dragon porn.
>>742064330You people are retarded
>>742065428AAAARRRGHH FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT THOUGHT IN MY HEAD
MewMew's initial dialogue sprite looks oddly identical the ones in Fields Of Mistria.And not in a "Old Shoujo Anime Style" way but in a "It's the same artist" way.
>>742065528>this case is closed imo, my money is down and on the tablethe problem is that, if this theory was correct, it would involve time travel and the game is already complicated enough without it
>>742065570Lancer?
>>742065428>straight ship>in toby's deltaruneJEJ
>>742065617Nothing got charredtobby you lair
>>742065186He's the Flowey counterpart, so regardless of the Rudy similarities he's inherently gonna have Flowey/Asriel comparisons
>>742065159Ralsei just REALLY hates that golden flower, man.
>>742065564>Cute>Good writing>Has multiple layers of depth>Doubles as two characters>Would be an actual hero unlike the main cast
>>742065008>>742065351it’s not EXACTLY the same but you can’t play shit like ddlc or sea of stars without picking up on it. there’s a very real inferiority complex there, it’s why I made the comparison with 2000s western cartoons, it was very easy to tell which creators actually liked anime and took inspiration from it and which creators were just jealous all the young kids were watching it instead of their own stuff.
>>742065594hahahha niceeee
Is Flowery a Gary Stu?
>>742065617>>742065658maybe the inferno of jealousy were (YOU) all along after the Cuckening
>>742065651Rouxls is the only heterosexual character in the game>b-but lanino He never fucked, only cucked, him.
i'm a retard, whose ghost is mewmew supposed to be of?
>>742065627Is there a problem? Rouxls is handsome if nothing else.
>>742065632timetravel or alternate timelines have been around since the beginning people are already braced for it
The Knight is Papyrus and he's wearing the inert armor in Undertale.
>>742065309sorry, susie has decided mew mew is too close to kris so she's not allowed to come alongever
>>742065658the shuriken Ralsei burnedhe was jealous as fuck of Flowery's FREEDOM
>>742065637Lancer started Susie's character growth, he's far from just a gag.
>>742065632I would be unhappy because time travel makes for dogshit storytelling, but it still seems unavoidablewe know that gaster, for example, was 'shattered across time and space'
>>742065738Remember that mad dummy fight from undertale?
>>742065715Not really because his perfection is just a gag.
>>742065761Gaggiest of gags
>>742065735>Toriel and Asgore
>>742065756That's a very very small event to highlight it like that
>>742065617And it's not a fucking asylum!
>>742065632im already expecting time travel because its also a perfect cop out if toby is going for one ending>get to the end of route>shit happens and its all fucked>goes black>KRIS WAKE UP TIME FOR SCHOOL
>>742060178My answer to that is the post in the image.
>>742065816>what about [thing that happened 15 years ago]No. Asgore has gay sex with Rudy
>>742065789yeah but what does that have to do with mewmew?
>>742065738it's mad dummy, her and mettaton are ghosts in the same way that papyrus and sans are skeletons, which is to say don't think about it too hard
>>742065821Asgore was talking to his flowers is that not schizo behavior?
>>742064330CHAPTER 5: THE VAST GARDEN IS CONSUMED BY AN INFERNO OF JEALOUSYthe garden has already been consumed, CH6 is the spark that starts the actual inferno.
>>742065617I think this might just be refering to Ralsei being jealous of Flowery, guys. Toby is not that self-aware.
>>742065738UT ghosts aren't dead, they're just creatures. But yeah the Mad Dummy from UT. Blooky and Metatton's cousin.
>>742065869Same ghost different inhabited bodyThis did retroactively lead to fan art of that dummy being given big ass and boobs and eye lashes of course
>>742065661But why so suddenly? He barely had time to interact with him before Susie and Kris rolled up. Was he beefing with him in their non darkworld forms while Kris was busy getting cucked?
>>742065738the one yelling at mettatopn in the festival when you interact with their house
>>742065869Undertale Switch has Mew Mew, Mew Mew was possessed by mad Dummy after you btfo him, same angry personality, also was interested in Asgore
>>742065835it's one of the explanations i assume for Ralsei knowing everything, and hoping to change fateeither that or there was an original trio of heroes (probably involving Dess) that fucked up, causing the events that happened with Asgore.
>>742065617RALSEI IS GOIN TO BURN DOWN HOMETOWN!!!!
>>742065617No kidding
>>742060178Even if it's intentional and their love is not genuine it's going to be by the end of the series because Toby's a cuckboi groomed by Andrew Pussie
>>742065842god dammit why does that have to make senseTOBY I SWEAR TO FUCK
Is it really such a good idea to invite an adult woman lightner to the hometown?
>>742064982never noticed the similarity in how SnowGrave and StarStorm sounded.i wonder what RK would do if they werent holding back.
>>742066115Yeh?
>>742065676Mewmew has no character depth. Yes her fight is an allegory about kris and the soul but as a character herself she's very basic>but there's two characters!yes and they are both generic. Their shtick would get boring fast.
>>742065568you will not stop me from cooming to doe ankles (or draenei ankles)
>>742065385took a while to find the middle threadshttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741797789/https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/741785687/
>>742065959because Flowery is giving the game away that stats and combat in the Dark World is literally "I CAN JUST MAKE UP WHATEVER STATS I WANT"
>>742065309That depends. Either Mad Dummy looks after the Flower Shop for the goat dad (a reasonable adult thing to do) or go full escapism and live in the school closet with Susie.
>>742065869it switched off the dummy and started possessing one of alphys' anime sex dolls (real)
>>742065309Me in the back
>>742065875That's actually a pretty common thing amongst gardeners, believe it or not.
>>742066176Ralsei breaks Darkner rule of becoming a statue when not in the correct place and that’s fine but changing a few stats around isn’t?
>>742066115bodied that freak
>>742066264Ralsei isn't a Darkner he's a Plantner.
>>742065875helps a lot of plants grow faster due to the directed carbon monoxide, moisture and heat.
>>742066115>This wasn't Birdley>We're gonna kill Gaster's soldier eventually
>>742065869it’s a switch (and xbone?) exclusive content, if you played ut on pc you wouldn’t have seen mad mew mew
>>742064187Fuck
>>742066303I doubt Kris' old headband was made of plants
>>742065875In case you missed it's confirmed that plants can learn and recognize speech
>>742066116toby has to give us adult woman fetishists something besides carol and toriel (which would be incest if we self-insert as kris)
>>742066115This is only here to show the player they can break trees now. It's actually more interesting that in the Sword Route, reaching max level usually means you can now cut down strong plants. Trees are always the last barrier between you and the next area.
