>isekai is the white man’s fantasy>gamers absolutely hate it for some irrational reasonKinda makes you think huh?
>>742108904fuck off retard
Shut the fuck up you reductive drooling template posting nigger.
>>742108904This is movie #2 that ruined my life
>>742108904People don't like to use their imagination and at the same time hate the idea of a second chance believing things should be rigidly defined by the confines of the life you live now. To put it simply gamers are fucking retards.
>>742108904I dream about having powers or being in another world every time I lie down. Been doing it since I can remember.But "isekai" is weebshit with rainbow harems, nonsense unfair revenge quests, fucking rice and onions praising, sneaky anti-european themes and worst of all... the main character forgetting he is from our world and basically beeing a fucking NPC.
Games already are isekai, especially those with char creation and MMO's
I isekai IRL, I go to 3rd world countries and impregnate local girls then block all contact.
>>742109042Movies are just trash. They all try to teach you this "lesson" or make this "statement" that you can't actually do anything with because your pathetic life in this pathetic society is already over. You are just going through the motions until death. You have zero real agency in this world.If the message of a movie is "corporations bad" or "pollution bad" what does it matter? You can't and won't actually take action against these things in real life because you meaningfully can't. Do people just get off to the feeling of "having done something" by the movie's evil hypnosis?Or the movie is some loud stupid horror flick that interrupts my sleep. Or it's a fucking hours long commercial for plastic crap.Fuck movies.
>the white man's fantasy
>>742109461>implying alice isn't
>>742109453Sounds like you just hate all media.
>>742109461>Alice if severe cardiovascular issues
>>742108904>>isekai is the white man’s fantasy>every protag is a swarthoidnope
>>742109461Why are her legs so thick?
>>742108904>the white man dreams of throwing his pitiful life away to be a femboy in another worldgrim
>If I were transported to another world I'd be super cool and have a grand adventure with friends instead of being the same awkward loser I am in my worldFantasy is right lmao
>>742109453yikes
>>742109656No I hate literally everything
>>742109787Its part of the design that makes it distinct.
>>742110328Why live?
>>742108904Isekai is just fantasy except the protagonist isn't as cool as a real knight.
>>742109656At least an isekai isn't pretending to be something it's not which is bread and circus.
>>742109987You speak a white man's language because they conquered you
>>742108904idk but i want to fuck the fairy
>>742109461
>>742110576I thought the protagonist has to grow like any piece of media. I mean the knight had to start out somewhere, so does the main character.
>>742108904>some irrational reasonbeing terribly written simplistic and uninteresting self fulfillment fantasies is not irrational. porns are written better than the average weebshit isekai anime where a wageslave turns into a king in another world with every fucking story beat playing the same as the one before.
>>742109453Worst take of the day award
>>742110874it's only natural
>>742110732>knows only one language>thinks this is something to brag aboutabsolute state of amerisharts
>>742109365fpbp
This is the worst board on all of 4chan and there are real people that will look you in the eye and say 'VIDEO GAMES FAGGOT VIDEO GAMES' because you post a picture of a professional Dota 2 player.If you deleted every thread that's irrelevant you'd have 3 shit threads that are relevant on technicality and one of a guy trying to discuss the mechanics of an old game that gets sent to a butterfly farm after 3 replies.
>>742111389Do you know what that means?
>>742110507You tell me
>>742111736ywnbaw
>>742111736fifth post, best post:^)
>>742111832Bodied that fool
Isekai is the lamest shit for the biggest losers on the planet
>>742109365>>742108904Isekai is hated because it works like a fucking video game, with level and shit. It’s ridiculous and dumb. We, players, use levels, lives, xp, and HUD to use a VIDEOGAME, to play a game. But as soon as you try to sell me a story where a guy just randomly open a menu in this new world, to open a fucking skill tab, it’s fucking lame. No, I don’t need guts to see the goat head monster’s level to know it’s a threat. No, I don’t want to see the girl levels to know she grew up and became stronger. No, I don’t want you to suddenly be able to lock pick because of a skill tree. It’s just so fucking lame.
>>742112113
>>742113148on a website for cool smart people with big dicks
>>742108904>[Japanese story trope] is the white man’s fantasy
>>742108904bro what? isekai is tailored towards japanese loners that want to kill themselves and escape reality
>>742108904Hexxus is still a cool design. A primordial oil demon that can drive machinery. Makes you wonder what kind of damage he could've done if he was behind the wheel of a Bagger 288.
>>742108904Recommend me some 90s animated kinoI don't care if they're mid, I generally love the way they lookedThe obscure the better
>>742111832
>>742116631Gen 13We're back! A dinosaur's story.The Flight of Dragons.The Halloween Tree.
>>742112964People who consumed videogames can only imagine adventuring as looking through a screen. They don't 'live' the adventure they can only 'see' it.
I hate Isekai Anime. Most of them are the same, cute guy goes to anime world and is OP and the world is full of cute girls that all love him for some reason. Complete Dreck.
>>742116631Fuck you and the 90s.Wizards (1977)Watership Down (1978)The Plague Dogs (1982)The Thief and the Cobbler Recobbled Cut.
>isekai is the white man’s fantasy
>>742116631
>>742108904I only like isekai when it starts at a moment the protagonist has been living it for a while so we skip the confused retard portion
>>742118538>skip the confused retard portionBut that's the best part
Many of those planetary romance novels from authors like Burroughs veered extremely closely to what we call isekai in a Japanese context. They frequently involve a man, from Earth, venturing to some alien world full of sexy princesses in need of rescue. Often he has some kind of "cheat" too, like super strength (on Mars). All you don't have are the RPG mechanics, because the books were written long before such things existed.
>>742108904What is this disney looking shit? TELL ME!
>>742109453this post is kino if you imagine a really curmudgeonly old man saying it
>>742108904>isekai is the white man’s fantasyIsekai is the Japanese man's fantasy. He hates his pathetic life, and wishes to escape to a world where he matters.The white man's fantasy is to be part of the world that surrounds him.>gamers absolutely hate it for some irrational reasonIn contrast with my last point: play Ultima.
>>742119235Ferngully
We need more fairy kino
>>742108904god I want to have sex with fairies
>>742109365>>742111021>>742112964All these anons are correct. Isekais are the lowest form of fantasy for philistines who lack any sense of shame or appreciation for nuance. It's like watching a child chug a bottle of syrup. There is no struggle or character growth to get invested in. The protag gets everything he ever wanted--power, adoration, adventure, his own personal harem--all through a product of absurdly fortunate circumstance. He didn't earn any of it. That's not a premise for a hero's journey, that's a premise for an ironic tragedy. No one wants to see anon-kun succeed.
>>742108904Toxic Love
>>742109453Holy projection!
>>742109453Really made the /tv/trannies mad
>>742109365>>742111021>>742112964>>742119852These post were written by brown hands
>>742116631The coyotes groom the girl with gifts and probably rape her later, many such cases.What movie?
>>742120475>this entire post
>>742108904>isekai is the white man’s fantasyPORTAL FANTASY is the White Man's FantasyIsekai is the limp-dicked autistic yayoi insectoid soulless bugman neckbeard fantasyPortal Fantasy is where an individual enters another world and becomes immersed in its adventureIsekai is where a pathetic incel loser fantasizes about using the power of spreadsheets to become God and get laid
>>742120618I want to know what Disney was saying about this grooming at the time. It's for my benefit if I become a parent. Pinnochio was a good signal. The intent of my question is perverted by your own perception.
>>742119885>when you remember Tim Curry had a stroke 15 years ago
Isekai is jap fantasy, white fantasy is Lord of the Rings
>>742111328You study my language by necessity. I don't give a shit what you speak
>>742121653Lord of the Rings is missing fairy sex
>>742108904>CrystaHump my cock, nrrrrgh
>>742121653Narnia, Wizard of Oz and Alice in Wonderland both predate Jap isekai.
>>742121653>Isekai is jap fantasyJaps made Stargate?
>>742121930those aren't true "isekai" though, they're portal fantasythe words "isekai" and "portal fantasy" encompass entirely different meanings and values despite a similar basic ingredientit's like saying "maruchan ramen" vs "chef boyardee" - both have pasta, but you can't call them the same
>>742108904That movie isn't Isekai its fantasy Pocahontas.In that movie both worlds coexist, the bigger world is unaware of the smaller world, and the conflict comes from the two worlds intersecting and a hero who has walked in both worlds. Isekai are explicitly about removing a character from one existence and placing them in another
>>742120948One, it's Don Bluth, not Disney.Two, you're the one who thinks this is "grooming".Three, you're not interested in being a parent.
>>742109461I love Arisu!
>>742122207Explain logically how they aren't the same.
>>742119852Even before addressing the terrible writing, the obvious wish fulfillment, the corny «the world is so mean to me and my crappy actually OP skill», the bland harem member who are actually slave but they somehow don’t give a crap about that, and the terrible world building full of identical adventurer guild with ranks, maids, evil church, dumb king. >>742116939>>742112964This is the first and actual biggest problem. Why the fuck do you have some fucking stats and levels and ranks like a fucking JRPG ? Why can’t people interact with each other without a fucking game tab ? Why do enemy need skills and levels and attack ? Why does no salary man ever realize how weird it is that this apparently fantasy magic world somehow has fucking Final Fantasy game mechanic ? My first question would be : is this even a real world ? If I kill some rando in it, am I actually a terrorist ? Or just the equivalent of some guy on GTA going on a rampage with cheats on ? Are my waifus real or the equivalent of Lydia porn mod with a script and code ? Am I actually passed out on my chair ? The use of those fucking video game stuff is so dumb, it’s a fucking shot in your own foot. Who wants the last samurai with a health bar and «skills» to learn ? If you want to do another world adventure, then just do it you fucking nip, stop adding video game shit in it. It doesn’t reinforce your world or your freedom, it limits it. Video game have ends, limitations. You take Skyrim : you can talk, steal or kil your NPC, nothing more, the world has clear end and so does the quest. Are those isekai japs limited in the way they can interact with their world ? Do they have moves that are physically possible, but can’t be done because they’re technically impossible ? Every time you see those game bullshit, you have to assume that they are stuff that they can’t do because it’s not «game intended» it limits your freedom, it limits the adventure, it limits the world building.
>AAAA YOU ARE SUPPORT AND YOU AREN'T DPS SO YOU ARE USELESS TRASH GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY SSSSS-RANK PARTY AAAA>AAAA I'M SILLY AND CHOLERIC AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW ADVENTURING WORKS AAAA>AAAA YOU COULD'VE EASILY REFUTED MY NONSENSE BUT YOU'RE TOO HUMBLE AND BETA TO DO THAT AAAA>hey mister, do you want to join our party, Protagonist's Onaholes?>ladies, please let me automagically everything for you with my support skills>OH MY GOD, support classes can do SUPPORT?!>MASAKA>BAKANA>I've never felt so supported in my whole life!>MC-sama sugoi, pls support my womb with your baby batter!>*humble beta noises*>AAAAAH MC-sama please stop being so useful, I already came twice!>AIEEEEEEE WE ARE SSSSS-RANK BUT WE'RE GETTING DABBED ON BY GOBLINS AAAA>AAAA WHY AREN'T MY SHOELACES TIED THEY WERE ALWAYS TIED BEFORE AAAA>AAAA WHY IS EVERYTHING SO HORRIBLE WHAT COULD'VE POSSIBLY CAUSED THAT AAAA>Hero-sama, m-maybe that support guy wasn't so useless after all?>AAAA I HATE THAT USELESS TRASH SO FUCKING MUCH AAAA
>>742120948It's not Disney. It's a Don Bluth movie called All Dogs Go To Heaven. Don't get your dick too hard, because it's not pornographic, and the girl who voices the girl in the movie was killed by her father before the movie was finished.
>>742109461Maria...
>>742120948>asking for advice on 4chan about an animated movie you could watch right now to form your own opinion in relation to "grooming" on instead of shitposting about "being a parent"For the love of God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit don't entertain the idea of procreation.
>>742109365I dream about being able to create my own univers, a earth, humanI would make it way less shitty, less suffering for humans and animals, no war, no india, just peace and prosperity
>>742108904Ferngully isn't isekai, what the fuck is this shit?
>>742108904Fairy feet
>>742122509>>742122546Fascinating how similar anti-isekai arguments are to those employed by feminists to attack games.
>>742119852>>742122546Even before the writing and anime like world building with cat girl and all : the main problem is this : >>742112964>>742116939Why do they all have video game elements ? Is it that hard to have a character who’s great with bows just be great with bows ? Why do he need to be RANGER SSS class adventurer+ bow skill ? Why does none of those Japanese salaryman realize that this medieval fantasy world has actual final fantasy fucking video game mechanics ? Aren’t they a bit curious ? Are they just passed out on their chair ? Do they become mass murderer if they kill peoples in here ? Or do they just become the equivalent of a player doing a shootout in a gta police station ? All those video game mechanics just limits the story : video game are finished, there’s a limit to the world and a limit to what you can do. In Skyrim when I interact which someone, I can talk, steal, kill and that’s all. The game doesn’t’ le me do more. So when you transfer this a fucking fantasy world, it become bland, it show you the limitations. The talents become points to earn, the mystery becomes quest, the adventure becomes grind, the object simply level up and the people becomes NPC, the danger and entités becomes boss with high level and the danger become skill issue. It limits the fantasy to a video game mechanics. Nobody wants to see the last samurai with points and skills to activate, nobody wants to know if Algren can climb a roof or if it will outside the map. Video game mechanics in littérature are lame.
>>742120202>whitest posts on /v/ in a long time>uhh its brown o algo
>>742123312Well fuck me, I thought my first post didn’t made it
>>742122484isekai is cringe and bluepilled while portal fantasy is based and redpilled
>>742116867>The Flight of Dragons.Oh fuck there's another person in the world who remembers that.
I really don't understand "X is white, Y is brown"posting.
>>742123163I wasn't arguing against isekai because shoelacers technically aren't isekai
>>742123163Fascinating how much you cope. No one criticize hot girls or harem here. But when it’s so fucking dumb as in isekai who can take pleasure in it ? No white man wants to go on an adventure if it means going into idiocracy to attacks windmills
>>742123478I enjoy both, I'm infra red pilled
>>742123513Thats all 4chan banter is now. >You're brown>no you're brown >no wait I'm brown but you're browner. At this point everyone has been accused of being brown so logically one would think whats left of this site could move on and discuss games....
>>742109453What about books? Should we hate books?
>>742108904Isekai is ruined by dumb japs pushing vidya shit into those stories.
>>742123356>saar these are brahmin caste posts, brahmin caste is aryan saar
>>742124089I loved this movie as a kid, probably the only person that did
>>742108904I feel like these threads and posts about " white man" are just fishing info about the posters here>>742108943Oh but sir, what would these fine jannies and the like do with there time if they just let the board slow down?
>>742124119But that's just what I like about them
>>742124119the popular Isekai stories are more or less like create a character like video games where most of the content revolves around the MC being amazing for just existing and little context beyond that.
>>742108943just small enough to fit into your twitter grift post huh?
>>742116631Anon, just watch The Last Unicorn.
>>742109443based
>>742123662>No one criticize hot girls or harem here.See:>>742122546>MC-sama sugoi, pls support my womb with your baby batter!The undercurrent of every anti-isekai critique is always denying men fiction that makes them happy. Alleged low quality of the writing and allegedenly derivative nature are not such properties that they would inspire such rage. What is particularly strange is that isekai is just one particular subgenre of a genre which I can't think of a name: Lost World, Planetary romance, are also subgenres of it. Were they more popular still, the same critiques feminists and their useful idiots level at isekai, would be leveled at them.
>>742109453Be the change you want to see
>>742108904isekai is asians being reincarnated as whites bro
>>742109656not games
>>7421089041. This post is terrible2. The concept of being transported to another world is not something people hate. What people hate is that concept was taken by the Korean manga industry and pushed to such an extreme that it has become far, far overexposed. It is also extremely formulaic and very pandering in its design. It is less about fan service (I like anime tits) but the constant repetition of "Loser IRL, but really cool in another world" is just wish fulfillment. Power fantasies are fun once in a while, but some people have a diet of nothing but that.3. They hardly ever do anything interesting anymore. Because of #2, the look of all these worlds is the same. Fantasy, but with some modern convivences (don't want the protagonist to have to adapt too much). Sometimes it has that strange modern fantasy aesthetic: fashionable clothes crossed with swords and magic. It literally feels like an excuse to just give Joe Salaryman or John Otaku one or more girlfriends and authority.
>>742111328your second language is a white mans language btw
>>742124854No the current is criticizing isekai for what it is : badly written fantasy. Even when it comes to the hot girls, the MC is 9/10 always a pussy that doesn’t do anything with them. I don’t give a fuck about what girls goons to with their shitty space book about elite, +6 model like astronauts in the mid 25. It’s as shitty as isekai, maybe even more boring
What if they did a reverse isekai, loser from a fantasy world becomes hero in our world perchance?
>>742112113not 4chan?
>>742116939cmon bro lets not pretend lord of the rings is any better in terms of writing.
>>742108904It co-opted by perverts running the teenage entertainment world and the genre is full of incomplete shitty stories all with the same set ups and same inconclusive half thought out drivel harem scenarios, one dimensional villains and pathetic protagonists living out closet fantasies.Its a fucking scam of a genre. It isn't story telling. Its fan fiction published as a product. Just thoughtless wankery.
>>742116985is it because hes a cute guy?
I want the Isekai genre of animation to die forever. Give it back to the females who wrote it throughout the 80's and 90's who were clearly far better at it.
>>742119852do you even watch anime?
>>742108904Im white and I have no idea who isekai is because animes mostly for fags who jack off to borderline underage loli stickers on their cars
>>742122207oh shut the fuck up
>>742112964The thing I really don't get about so many isekai making MMORPG game mechanic abstractions into actual rules in their universe, is most of the MMOs that actually work like that don't fucking exist anymore.
>>742123513brown is dumb white is smart just like in real life
>>742122546It's astounding how accurate this is.
>>742108904please stop posting fairies I just fapped...
>>742125537they have those buts its usually hero in another world becomes loser in ours. Gabriel droput, jahyeesama, devil is a part timer, sora no otoshimono, inuyasha.
>>742125798>oh no! those japanese men all look like japanese men!
I dunno what isekai is,and i hate this thread for it.
>>742126069Guess what? People who have jobs don't have time to play games anymore. Also most anime have a 5-10 year lag from the start of the source material.
>>742126370>Gabriel droput, jahyeesama, devil is a part timer, sora no otoshimono, inuyashapretty much all of these are trash except maybe inuyasha and jahy-sama
What's some good isekai gayming that lets you create your character and self insert?
>>742125798Anime is mocked for having characters with unnatural hair colours. Yet deviating from this, also yields derision by gaijin. Almost as if arguments as soldiers is at play.
What games are similar to those in isekai manga where this mythical otome game with a 'surprisingly deep combat system' exists
>>742126553appearently you don't know how to use a computer either
>>742109453man discovers motion pictures are propaganda
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>>742126584literally all those are good EXCEPT inuyasha
>>742124854The criticism isnt that there are cute girls, retard-kun. The criticism is of the terrible writing, and the fact that the mc has everything handed to him, despite being a passive, boring, unlikable character. The only thing isekai protags ever have going for them is that they're nice guys. In no way do they deserve the power and pussy that they're showered with.
>>742126283That's just one branch of the revenge fantasy formula.The other one is where the shoelace tying skill is "cleverly" worded to mean the MC can tie fate or some shit, so when he gets passed over he goes on a murder spree. But it's totally justified, because fuck you Toshi that promotion was mine.Really, Isekai is at its best when it's completely unapologetic.The pseudo subversions are a genre all of their own now, and they all fucking suck.
>>742126660are there even anime like that?
The entire appeal of isekai is an outsider with privledged knowledge that no one in universe would have. Thing is when you play a video game you are already doing this with the player knowing far more about the game than the protagonist should along with the ability to execute on that privileged information. Isekai videogames wouldn't do anything meaningfully different from a regular game in this regard.
>>742126776Spoiler alert: thats how love works in real life too.
>>742122546
>>742126663what's a computer?
>>742109453>unrealistic messagingI just watched Identity Theft, where the message is to be more assertive for the guy, and not be a cunt by the girl.Before that I watched Wrong Turn, and there was no message besides don't fuck with rednecksThis week I watched the Big Lebowski, where the message is "Not my fucking problem."I saw Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas: I'm still not sure what the message was, besides nostalgia over a long gone revolution. I'm bringing up examples, of high-brow to low-brow, horror and literary, to show that your point of vague activism is incorrect. What's the message in Tropic Thunder? Pollution, corporations? >Or the movie is some loud stupid horror flick that interrupts my sleep.It sounds like a you problem. I'm not going to watch an action/horror movie and expect to sleep.>hours long commercial for plastic crap.That I agree. Fuck that.>>742124089Books are so, so much more rich as a medium compared to movies. I am careful with my wording: I do not say better/worst because those are blanket statements over vague quality that do not help us in discussion. I instead say rich, because the barrier to entry or production is so low, compared for potential of quality.You need months of animating, scripting, programming to make a game that appeals to mass audience. Even if you're making a roguelike like Cogmind or Dungeons of Dredmor, there is still a massive amount of time to just make it look pretty.Writing? Oh sure, it takes a lot of time for the author and editor, but it's crucially just them. And if the author knows what he's doing, he can crank out dozens of books. There's five Doom games over two decades: meanwhile fantasy authors can crank out three series with dozens of books each. And crucially, they don't need some multi-displine team, just themselves.Coupled that with the interior focus narration, and you get a melting pot of ideas in books. A lot is shit though.
>>742111653>newfag learns that water is wet
>>742126931i look and see food
>>742126961name 1 rich book.
>>742125697so are those based on anything?
>>742126442>japanese people have GIANT purple eyes and blue hair
>>742126818there's a bunch of manga like that, mostly of the 'otome game where villainess is my(mob character) waifu and saintess/protagonist is actually another reincarnee with a terrible personality who wants the harem route'
>>742125697>what! I am an adult and yet I do not like stories for teenagers! how could this be!?
>>742109185This
>>742127162>nigga never heard of blue blackshakin my head
>>742126881>nice guy gets showered with pussy>just like real life, broAre you retarded? In real life, giga-chads or richfags get everything. Being a kind of nice guy isn't enough to get anything in life.
>>742127173What does that have to do with the gameplay?
>>742108904If it's the white man's fantasy, why doesn't it have a white man's name?
>>742126776>In no way do they deserve the power and pussy that they're showered with."Colonialist male power fantasy, where the white (ugh) protagonist, by random accident of being born in a technologically advanced country, uses his knowledge common in his country, to wow or defeat racistly depicted natives, while sexistly white saving a native girl."
>>742127447Why is is the entire history of europe such a cringe white male power fantasy?
>>742127238hahaha kek this, fucking dumb uncs
>>742127080I meant rich as in rich in breadth of experience. I do not mean rich as in books are better or worst than movies, because again, I think that's a stupid tribalism.I'll give an example of what I mean AND answer both your question and the underlying question: No Country for Old Men. Loved the book: prose, narration and actual story. Yet, it started off as a Hollywood script, only to be rejected. So Cormac just rewrote it as a book, the book got popular, and then it became a movie.That's to the T why I say books are richer. No Country for Old Men could have been forgotten, just another rejected script. But because the production values of writing is so low, Cormac decided to rewrote as a book, and that ended up doing so well it became a movie. You can't do that with movies. If I wanted to make a big-budget movie but I don't have the funding, there's nothing I can do. If I wanted to animate an epic shonen but I lack funding, there's nothing I can do. If I want to write a book, I can do that in my lunchbreak. And many did, and that's why the written word is rich. It's rich from all the one-man shops, geniuses, and schizos. Fuck, even Hitler wrote a book. But can you imagine him making a game before he was Chancellor, and that game being good? Exactly.
>>742126857most of them have the chosen one bullshit and what not so as long as you get to make the PC it's an isekai fantasy. >>742126881it's not or rather the context for connections are more intricate. A passive, boring, unlikable person is a trinity of an incel NEET in the real world. If you want to argue removing two of those points would get them love I agree, if you say only one needs to go I debate some but could still see a path forward, but a person who was all three is ensured a life of nothing, but that's why they make them that way in the books, the buyers are fearful of the world and verge on hate for how difficult it is for them to be anything other than a NPC and have anything in there life so you have to go where the money is.
>>742127559>Why is is the entire history of europe such a kino white male power reality?FTFY
>>742127367It is if you're handsome. Hell even just average looking you can easily get body counts with those numbers. And 1 girl likes you a million start to follow is truth. Also no one works for pussy. A womans mind is made up in a few seconds. It can change but thats whatever.
>>742127441umm...SHUT UP CHUD
>>742127447Literally all they had to do was evolve beyond straw huts and shitting in the streets and they'd be the ones colonizing.
>villainess isekai>dumb cunt bitches about the original female protagonist and how everyone automatically loves her>dumb cunt is also absolutely convinced that she's gonna die because the original villainess died, somehow can't comprehend not dying if she doesn't repeat the original villainess's behavior>inevitably attracts all the male protagonists and ends up acting just like the regular otomege protagonist she initially bitched aboutThis shit has even less thought put into it than the average kicked out of party or becoming invincible in the first chapter isekai, it's abhorrent.
>>742108904>Japanese people>whiteFuck off kike
I don't get iseaki because I don't understand why it has to me someone from our world. From what little I've seen, all it does is speeds up the fish-out-of-water setup, and excuse the character from not knowing society.I prefer the soft-iseaki approach of Dune: the character lives in the universe, but just moved to a new place, and has to adapt there. Keeps me immersed, allows the character to build up skills without contrivance, keeps the fish-out-of-water while also allowing new lore and brings his family along. Jessica was my favorite character in Dune 1: if Paul just got teleported to Dune, we would lose all that regal/motherly/priestly undertones with her.
>>742127647Bro go outside and go interact with the average person. They're just what you described boring, passive. Unlikeable maybe to most people but they just have a few friends.
>>742127758Thats not even true unfortunately. China had more boats, never used em. They invented gun powder...and made fire works.
>>742127931>mommyfag is a retardAll such cases
>>742125697>>742127110>so are those based on anything?I'd imagine it's very loosely based on Rothenburg ob der Tauber, a well-preserved medieval walled town that's become a picturesque tourist destination. The most damning thing is I doubt the artists themselves know this. They're just imitating what they've seen before in older animes (e.g. Hayao Miyazaki who frequently traveled to Europe and became enamored by German architecture).
>>742127931The people who watch isekai are so pathetic, that in order for them to self insert, the loathsome protagonist literally has to go to a different world to find people that don't hate him. A magical portal is a more believable fantasy than just losing weight and becoming a better person.
>>742127931Because jap neets want to self insert.
>>742109787scottish highlander genetics
>>742128026China is fucking huge for a reason, dunce. Conquest.
>>742128064How come they never travel to sub sahara and become enamored with their architecture?
>>742123872coco is brown
>>742112964watched "Record of Lodoss War" days ago.No powerlevels. No cheat skills, No holographic maps. Women not want the testicles of the hero. Modern anime is trash
>>742128216Chinas landmass has remained just about the same through every dynasty. And you're neglecting that like 90% of the people are basically 1 ethnicity. Also doesn't change the fact that they never sailed and colonized the whole world.
>>742108904>>gamers absolutely hate it for some irrational reasonOp makes statements that aren't true to skew the discussion in a certain direction thread.
>>742127931The three reasons are1) To justify the MC having a gift wrapped uber skill to catch up. If he was just some dude living in the world, it would be weird if he wasn't the god emperor of the setting by the time he's old enough to be a self insertable japanese salaryman's age. 2) Because lacking this >brings his family along.Is a feature, not a bug. The MC being completely cut off from their prior life means they can be as much of a blank slate as possible. 3) Because the genre has stagnated to the point where Isekai doesn't just mean a traveller to another world, but a very specific world of NotD&D or something very close to it. If an author writes Isekai, 90% of the appeal is the fact they can put absolutely fuck all effort into worldbuilding.
>>742123872>no wait I'm brown but you're brownerstill a fair point though
>>742126069They are as much a fantasy about how they wish MMOs worked (so they could be used as a means of living out fantasy rather than just to direct unbridled autism towards) as they are about an actual other world. Which is why game mechanics isekai is only a sub genre to begin with that sits immediately beside actual MMO stories like SAO and Bofuri. Isekai with no game mechanics, game connection, or gamer protagonist are plentiful.
>>742128374Bro witch hat atelier and apothocary diaries are being animated right now. Your problem is what you look for.
>>742123513Retards who think being racist makes them smart
Feels more like people hate bad writing than the genre itself which is a universally shared stance. And if thats the case then what are good examples beyond the usual over reactionary shitposts. No one ever posts those.
>>742128165?? looks english
>>742110507Hate dying.
>>742128412They colonized Xinjiang, Mongolia, Tibet. Probably others. I'm no historian, but no, each successive dynasty saw massive expansions.
>>742128660you're brown
>>742108904I AMBATTY
>>742128660Being racist doesn't make you smart.Being smart makes you racist.
>>742128743Those are geographically adjacent to them cmon retard kun you can't be this pedantic
>>742128683Nah people really do hate the genre itself. Whether true or not it feels like the stories are some sense of escapism for the author, and not something he actually wrote to entertain the audience. Same energy as self insert mary sue.
>>742128881>it doesn't count as colonizing when they set up colonies and expand via conquest when they're geographically adjacent.It does, though. The evils of colonization aren't because boats are involved. Next you'll be saying it's okay if I steal my neighbor's house because he's right next door. Retard.
>>742128881>russia and china get a pass because dumb turd worlds think colonianism == boatslol
>>742127779Indeed. Villainess isekai really do have the stench of female writers in that they absolutely cannot bear for even one second to actually have their MC bear scrutiny from anyone or not have them be the most popular prettiest most beloved girl of all time. Some have half a mind to actually just remove the villainess from a situation where they might receive some blowback for their previous life- and yet in those cases it's basically just removing the "villainess" aspect altogether. As it never comes up or if it does then it's with someone who has become so enamored with them that they slurp and kiss at the wound.I think the real worst bit is whenever it ends up in fucking pure yurislop shit.
>>742108904Isekai protags rarely earn their powers. It is fetishised nepotism.
>>742128412China's borders have varied to an extreme degree depending on which kingdom and dynasty you're talking about.
>>742129102Jokes on them, they didn't know cossacks used river boats
>>742129049This has nothing to do with good or evil its about colonizing THE WORLD or just taking over a few neighboring countries. Which is something almost every pre industrialized society has done atsome point. Try following the discussion.
>>742129045Again thats an issue with bad writing. People self-insert in stories all the time, even Tolkien did. If they cant entertain people even with that then once again, they are a poor writer. You guys hate that most people suck at crafting a believable story with likable characters.
>>742129201If no boats, how colonialism?Checkmate.
>>742129146thats kind of the whole point, you were born with a shitty lot in life and you wish you could be born again but in a better environment.
>>742129102russia is white, also has/had discontinuities
>>742129128>fucking pure yurislop shithey thats based though
>>742129287No, you added those goalposts for some unknown reason. I said you (a group of people) would become colonizers as long as they were advanced enough to not shit in the streets, and you (or whatever retard I replied to) said "ummmmm chyna." This conversation was clearly about being advanced enough to conquer.
>creator of isekai gets so depressed he kills every single character in the last episode except for a little fairy girl who has to witness mass death and destruction>he did this once before>he does it again a few years later with another showlmfao
>>742129146did the villian earn his powers?
>>742127779Tearmoon Empire is the only good villainess story except maybe Live Commentary and it's not even an isekai.
People that have it better don't like to think how it's all luck and that's why they hate isekai because it reminds them how they haven't actually earned anythingIf you really earned anything and if the world was fair then how come you aren't a big hero saving the world? Surely it's not all luck eh sure if you worked enough your dreams could come true
>>742129201ok now compare that to the british empire whos looked more "varied"
>>742109185isekais are not fucking imaginative you mental retard. this shit is for tween brains at best
>>742129453I was going to say "even yuritroons have standards" but never mind, I remembered who I was talking about.Fucking kill yourself.
>>742129609>if you really earned your own house and car, then why aren't you a superhero literally saving the world?Did you have a stroke?
>>742108904>>742109185Isekai is trash and cringe because it's all the same power fantasy shit.
>>742129498Yea china was advanced enough to not shit in the streets. They didn't become colonizers europeans did. Wheres your confusion?
>>742129732I mean why is nobody doing it? Just work hard enough
And some people aren't lucky enough to be able to get a house and a car, and it's not because they're lazy
>>742108904I dated a chick that looked like that minus the wings and elf ears ofcshe was fucking insane, but she gave mad headI miss her sometimes when I'm horny
>>742129789Colonialism = expanding by force and extracting wealth. China 100% did that. You don't need to cross an ocean to do that.
>protag in a video game can be literally anyone/anything>why people hate making protag an autist loser that dies in a beginningreally hard question anon
>>742129527In Isekai? Usually if he isn't the protagonist, the demon king at least had to prove he isn't a jobber and can throw down with his own minions to ascend to his title. They never have so many resources that they overrun their setting before the kid with the remote is sent to deal with them, and often have to deal with the politicking of their subordinates.
>>742129732What country were you born in? What time period? What gender are you?
>>742129757there's a difference between power fantasy and resentful impotent nerd rage revenge fantasy
I miss Tim Curry.
>>742129894You dated a DUDE that was GAY, you queer.
>>742126776So the problem is you're jealous of these imaginary nonexistent men.
>>742108904I don't hate it. I hate Japan's copy/pasted take on it.
>>742129917Ok well then by your logic even indians and africans are colonists and they never evolved past shitting in the streets so I don't see what your point is by adding that addendum to your statement.
>>742129938They're born with the powers most the time, or at least the potential. Usually born with their social standing or relationships too.
>>742108904Isekai video games are a retarded concept for autists. Every video game is already having you play a character in another world by default. Pretending your character is a self-insert of yourself (which it isn't) doesn't add anything to the game. All you kiddos that need their "immersion" to enjoy a game need help.
>>742129952Revenge is just really big in korean culture americans just wouldn't get it.
>>742125645Shut the fuck up nigger. It is.
>>742130345>guy literally dies and transforms into white version of himselflike watching power rangers or beyblade
>>742130120Correct. I should have clarified that non-street shitters colonize and don't get colonized.
>>742129520Based.
>>742108904not a problem in project nortubel
>>742108904marcus aurelius was the first isekai protagonist
>>742129146The problem is more that without their powers they'd be nothing.Protagonists who get a leg up and then bust their ass off to make the most of it are fine in my eyes. It's also important that they have peers, both as allies and enemies, who can act as a whetstone.
>>742108904Isekai sucks because it's low effort copypaste shit, not because of the premise itself.
>>742129291I don't think you should be so reductive. It makes you look like a retard.Coming out and saying, "You just hate it when it's bad" could count for literally anything in all of existence.It's not a solid defense for anything and it's certainly not a defense for what most people would consider a "slop genre" nowadays.
>>742130441That shit is only a trope because of tolkien. Of course it's derivative when people use his ideas over and over.
>>742130461china was colonizd by japan though
>>742129520Who's this? What's this?
>>742130324you're talking about face culture, the fact that chink bugmen obsess over izzat is precisely the contributing factor that ruins all oriental media
>>742108904>>742109365You're both newfags whose only frame of reference is recent shit like isekai anime and the MCUNever heard of pulp literature and it showsWestern media could have been as creative and even horny as Japanese media if not for the insecurity just so it wouldn't lose its status as "the global media"This is why "Millenial writing" exists and everything is so ironic
>>742130592I don't think so. If new world is other dimensional so PIE myths or their decendants have that. If just magical land than jack and the beanstalk.
>>742130659Its not reductive at all. Its like saying you hate capeshit cause most of the stories suck. Most fiction is awful. You do not hate the genre but the writing, its a simple viewpoint even children or dolphins could grasp.
>>742130312I think that anyone who uses "self-inserts" as a derogatory are seriously coping hard about something. There's seriously no reason to bring up "self inserters" in 80% of the media I look at and yet I still see people going, "self-inserters are just mad because".
>>742130689Didn't know tolkien wrote the bible.
>>742130743name 1 pulp literaturenot conan, lovecraft, zoro or the shadow
>>742130915Most marvel movies intended for white men are actually good though.
>>742130915there's a difference between "capeshit" and "superhero movies" and if you can't intuit what it is it means you're a retarded newfag coattail-riding NPC who repeats memes he hears on the internet to fit in rather than having opinions of his own
>>742130695Because at the time, these Chinese were shitting in the streets.
>>742131347oh shut the fuck up already nigger
>>742131127the maltese falcon
>>742108904Why yes, I also did see FernGully for free on YouTube. With that being said, I did not feel the need to post about it to random people on the internet, let alone on the wrong board.
>>742131127Uh..... Jackie chan.
>>742131561Thats high art my good sir.
>>742131127The Moon Pool
>>742131127>no shadowcheap shot, Lamont Cranston is basedbut since you said no The Shadow, I'll go with Chandu the Magician
>>742108904Vore.
>MC, you're kicked out of the party!>adventurer guilds with an orb that measures mana capacity which either break for the main character or don't respond because he's just that powerful>[half/step brother] HEH, YOUR DIVINE SKILL IS LEGENDARY 50 CAL GOD KILLER? I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THAT, I BET IT'S WEAKER THAN MY DIVINE SKILL SWORDMASTER™ YOU HAVE BROUGHT SHAME TO OUR FAMILY >slave daughter/wife>rice field crop cycles>OH MY GOD MC SAMA THIS 'SAKE/RAMEN' IS AMAZING>oni/elf tribes that are totally not-japan established by another isekaijin>promotion exams>at least one goddess GF>CHANTLESS MAGIC?!?!?!>TWO ELEMENTS AT THE SAME TIME?!?!??!>the royal/magic academy>a dragon has sex with a car at some point>an absolutely dogshit scanlation that accidentally switches back to japanese/BRnese for a couple of speech bubblesGod I love isekai. It's so fucking shit but I can't not read it.
>>742131127Solomon Kane
>>742130915The anon you're replying to.It's extremely reductive. To say, "You would enjoy it if it's good" is to absolutely remove the topic itself from discussion.I don't really think you get what I mean by "reductive" if you go and tell me, "even children could understand my viewpoint".People hate isekai because it's not just low-quality slop, it's proliferative. It's everywhere. It's constant. Anime. Manga. Light novels- though saying light novels is like saying "there's cartoons in my cartoon network".In the same way I block manwha whenever I'm looking for something new to read because I've gotten tired of the eternal Korean small dick syndrome, people get annoyed whenever they see a new manga and find out that it's an isekai, regardless of quality. People have gotten tired of isekai, simply put. And it's gotten to such a point that even Kadokawa books is admitting it.
>>742127931The main character needs to be from our world because they are (You). Isekai is an offshoot of otaku escapism. Half the time it's about the MC being a disappointment to their parents and social reject, if they even bother having a serious story.It's assumed that the audience has already read the same story a hundred times because they're shutins that do nothing but consume media all day. So by MC having the same knowledge you can skip all the setup and jump right into the dopamine hits, be that the harem or getting revenge on (You)r bullies.>>742130312Having a fish out of water can be a useful tool for explaining things to the player. And you can do a lot of interesting character bits with the moment. It's like a dude forcefully dropped into a warzone on the side of the planet. How does he cope with the violence? Any lingering regrets? How does a normal man change in strange circumstances? How does it affect their relations to other people?Not that any game does that as far as I know, but the ideas are certainly there.
>>742108904White people don't believe in reincarnation.
Read better native isekai stories you dumbasses.
>>742132036>You're kicked out of the partyThe weirdest version of this is the sex doll one where they make a point of going "he got kicked out of the hero's party!" despite the fact that the story begins after the fucking demon king is dead and the hardship he experiences due to it is basically irrelevant.
>>742132036>a dragon has sex with a car at some pointCan confirm.
>>742132194they should start
>>742128270It doesn't get any better than this.
>>742132036>slave daughter/wifenothing wrong with this
>>742132385Absolutely not, if your next life could be better there is no reason to live the current one. Go eat a shotty and become a butterfly.
>>742108904Ferngully isn't an isekai. If anything it's the opposite, the protagonist realizes that he's helping cause the problems by logging and helps stop it. This runs counter to the main appeal of isekai: retreating from this world and its complications and problems and becoming the hero for another world entirely.
>>742132597>there is no reason to live the current onethere is because suicide will often just make things worse
>>742132385believing in ghost stories?
>>742132546Inspiring what humans will create without access to stone or marble, in the middle of a sweltering desert.
>>742132801hey it's all stupid until it happens to you and then you wish it didn't
>>742108904here's your real life isekai, white man!
>>742130717the guy who made gundam. he made an isekai anime before that and another space opera anime before that with a scene where a baby gets its head shot off in a firefight lmao.
>the he didn't earn it cope
>>742133125Does it really count as isekai if its really old?
>>742108904im actualy surprised they let anime exporting to other country when 99% of isekai are pure unfiltered antisemitism
I feel like endlessly clamoring for "smarter" entertainment is just an ego trap.The person who can consooom and enjoy all types of media seems like the person who would be the happiest.
>>742132083>People have gotten tired of isekai, simply put.To put it in other words: "isekai" is a marker for bad quality. It lets you filter out a manga at little cost so you've got the time for figuring out which of the 9000 other ones to read. And if by chance one isekai does turn out to be good, you'll hear about it eventually and can just pick it up later.
>>742133295What how? Only thing I can think is like goblin slayer.
>>742133329stupid people are happier too whats your point?
>>742132036>slave daughter/wifeEvery story, isekai or not needs a slave daugherwife. No exceptions.
>>742133125Fuck off and die, Dunbine isn't isekai. You cannot be isekai if you aren't part of the narou boom. Period.
Stop living in escapist fantasies and actually improve your life. Isekai is loser's cope.
>>742130312If it's a character I create who is a blank slate, I'm going to insert into him. Simple as.
>caring about a genre that peaked almost 150 years agopic related still mogs every shit isekai light novel to this day
>>742133683oh like I haven't tried that
>>742133125>DunbineFuck me you reminded me of that fucking giga joke anime. Thanks.
>>742109042>ywn have a cute tomboy fairie wifeFucking devastating...What were movies 1 and 3?
>>742133610why can't old things be considered isekai? i need a true weaboo to explain this to me
>>742112964>Isekai is hated because it works like a fucking video game, with level and shitNah that part is fun, fuck you.
>>742116631I saw Cats Don't Dance with my kids recently. It was okay but it made me sort of melancholy because I hadn't seen a 2D animated movie in some years and hadn't realized how much I missed them.
>>742133749You obviously never read The Neverending Story by Michael Ende.
>>742124218You and at least one other person (me)
>>742133842Simply put, because it lacks all of the trappings of the genre except for the other world part(which despite being the name of the genre is actually the least important part).
>>742133683>just be chad bronah im good g
>>742132129The problem with isekai as a "fish out of water" scenario is that half the time they are too genre savvy to fit that role, or they're doing a fake it 'til you make it routine and have to play stupid to force any exposition. Like, how many times does Ainz have to shut up and let one of his minions explain what his own "brilliant strategy" is in Overlord?There's plenty of ways to naturally have an uninformed protagonist without using transdimensional metaphysics.
>>742134001Interesting.
>>742116631FerngullyPagemasterRescuers Down Under
>>742133842>>742134001This point is long contended and no matter what it comes out nebulously.I think that the second Anon has it more or less right that you just have to consider the modern "isekai" genre as something separate from the old science fiction and fantasy novels of ending up in some magical realm or alien world.But at the same time I think he's a little baby bitch for getting really really grumpy in his dumpies about Dunbine, an unmistakably shit anime, being called isekai.
>>742133950I saw the robot chicken episode about that
>>742133979based
>>742134160>Uninformed protagonist>AinzI think that's just being incompetent.
>>742109453Shalom.
>>742132917Konishiwa nigga Sama Where are the kawaii Neko nigga
>>742134216I think the simplest thing to do is simply abandon calling them isekai as a genre and just call them narou.
>>742133329The pig is always the happiest until the farmer gets hungry Wa non
Anime can barely get fantasy right
>>742134483Anon, keep eating your adventurer guilds and S ranked monsters. Little African boys are starving.
>>742132849They literally had wood in the mosque. It was also build in a time sheet they had massive wooden and stone resource in the empire …
>>742134483and what does?
>>742109365>the main character forgetting he is from our world and basically beeing a fucking NPC.Name one isekai. Just one
Japanese Isekai>Ch 1: wao sugoi I'm in another world time to live the slow life of my dreams, if only all these beautiful and sexy women would stop swarming around me and talking about how yasashi I am!!>Ch 100: oh no there are even more indescribably attractive women around me, my slow life is being ruined! Chinese Isekai>Ch 1: I'm in a new world, how terrifying. I'll just lie low and do my best to survive, maybe make up for some of the original regrets in this world. Let the morality and knowledge I've obtained from 9 years of compulsory education in the Flower Kingdom be my guide.>Ch 100: What's that, a bunch of innocent people minding their own business saw a fraction of the power I've been hiding? Unfortunately I have no choice but to slaughter them all.
>>742134703>they were making a statementpowerful...
>>742134769out by the roots, anon.There really is no other choice when you think about it logically
>>742134218That's like saying "I played Star Fox Adventures and saw the WarpStone once." You have to read the book to know just how much you are missing out on by only caring about the Wolfgang Petersen film that was such a monumental bastardization that Ende tried suing the producers.
>>742134769>whats that? some guy looked at me with his eye half closed? I must slaughter them all!
>>742134769haha I need to see these chinese isekais
>>742122509Isekai is a genre. Like magical girls. Of fucking course a genre is going to share the same narrative elements between IPs. Complaining about this is no different from complaining that magical girl anime happen in a school environment, or that all the girls are cute. Of COURSE. THAT'S PART OF THE GENRE, you idiots.
>>742125697>Its a fucking scam of a genre. It isn't story telling. Its fan fiction published as a product. Just thoughtless wankery.that sounds pretty white man fr fr no cap unc
>>742133842Every genre has conventions and shared elements. Often they get grouped and named by the most blindingly obvious elements, like Westerns being set in the Wild West. But often there are many less obvious elements that are just as if not more important. Think of it in terms of cars: A ferrari and a minivan both have four wheels, but people don't like a ferrari just for having four wheels.With the modern isekai/"narou"/whatever genre, going to another world was just the one easily visible element people could use to make a distinction to other fantasy. But there are many, many stories that feel like "isekai" despite never featuring other worlds, or where the other world is just a foot note. I've watched some where I've outright forgotten that the MC was from Earth.The actual genre conventions are something like:>escape from real world problems>MC is special(in a good or bad way, often just for being the only man that isn't an asshole)>easy to understand world and social dynamics(often because they're based on video games - or just other such stories! Copy of a copy of a copy, etc.)>easy validation and affection>easy promise that the women won't leave (You)>no moral conflicts - even when the premise would have one, like slavery, they're just ignored
>"subversive/parody" isekai>the premise runs thin almost immediately and it just becomes a straight isekai with a few winks thrown at the camera
>>742127931>>742129045>escapism for the authorIt's not for the author, it's for the otaku target audience. It's a wish fulfillment genre for consumers who seek this specific sort of escapism. At the end of the day, it's a product like any other
>>742109453>They all try to teach you this "lesson" or make this "statement" that you can't actually do anything withThat depends on the movie and your own situation. However, there is a kernel of truth in your post in that all you can ever do is to try and help yourself and the people around you.
>>742135028>complaining that magical girl anime happen in a school environmentdon't know about this genre specifically but westerners have been complaining about schools in anime for centuries
>>742135028There’s nothing that force author to include video game elements, retard
>>742135194Why would slavery be a moral conflict?
>>742108904As a cumskin I don't like Isekai at all. I'd rather read about an already established grim-dark world where a lone man builds a harem of sluts.Why people want it to be a nerdy skinny bullied kid is fucking crazy to me, personally.
>>742135347>I'd rather read about an already established grim-dark world where a lone man builds a harem of sluts.Literally about 40% of isekai.
>>742135194Honestly you're wasting your breath. There are a lot of interesting ways to group works together but on 4chan people just want to be "right" in the most pedantic way possible. So arguing genres is a no go.
>>742135231Shield hero.
>>742135194>>no moral conflicts - even when the premise would have one, like slavery, they're just ignoredAs if every isekai doesn't use slavery as a freeby of how much better the protagonist is compared to the natives, for thinking soavery is bad, and then buying and freeing a slave girl who still stays by his side.
>>742108904Isekai is the symptom of a sick Japanese society where everyone works 14h, is always in a rush, is always overtime, always has to "socialize" because culture etcIn short, it's an answer to this, an "escape" - die to be reborn in another life where you're "blessed"
>>742132065>conan but with pistolsyou did not answer the question
>>742135283The consumer isn't actually happy about it though. Thats why I said feels. Its the same energy behind fan fiction vs commercially successful stories like the real star wars.
>>742135294My point is that a school setting is intrinsic to the magical girl genre. I'm not talking about anime as a whole
>>742135194>>easy validation and affection>>easy promise that the women won't leave (You)Always with the moralizing tone when talking about main chracter attracting girls without trying. Deconstructors of "problematic" story elements tip their hand so easily.
>>742135306video game genre
>>742108904My only white male fantasy is you faggots leaving me alone.
>>742135491>buying and freeingI see this less often than>buying and then watching the slave girl beg in tears not to be free
>>742135753truth in television
>>742135231>Eminence in the shadow>Guy has been training his whole life to be mysterious organization man>Spends his reincarnated life training to be mysterious organization man>Inserts himself into wild, complicated political plots by being an actual retard>Literally every single part of the story is played 100% straight (including the MC's ridiculous, arbitrary actions)>Only sign that it's some kind of joke is the MC's thoughts basically being some retarded bullshit at all times so you could just remove his thought boxes and it would be a straight, edgy self insert story>>742135462I think it's a little much to call Shield Hero an isekai parody. I mean it's more of an LN protagonist parody, with Naofumi being specifically the generic isekai protag. But I don't think it really lampoons any of its elements hard enough to be called a "parody". It's more like a weird deconstruction.
>>742134769Chinese cultivation stories and Japanese Isekais are reflective of the cultures their born in. Isekai is about fucking young women and not having obstacles in your life in order to distact yourself from the suicide inducing job market and otherwise fucked up social dynamics. Cultivation is rather similar but with Chinese characteristics.
>>742120948Nigga I think you need to get checked outWhat the fuck are you saying, it's a children's movie you retard
The literature world is flooded with original writers ever since covid and especially self publishing on amazon or whatever, but despite (or maybe because) of this, the consumers are instead focusing on more and more formulaic wishfulfilment-y media, like isekai or romance novels. And as long as it ain't actually broke, there's no point to fixing it.
>>742119852Okay but why did you put a picture of The Last Samurai? That's a movie about Tom Cruise being intentionally brought into help destroy the culture he ends up being integrated into, and still powerless to save it. He completely failed.
>>742108904>the white man’s fantasy is escaping his own world to live out an indulgent fairytalereally makes you think
