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Deltarune
Holy crap, we finally know who the Roaring Knight is. Everything finally make sense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT97Fy-vszQ
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>onion had to be removed from the picture to stop him from interrupting the proceed out of bounds glitch
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OP you have a horrible voice. Stop making videos until you clear your sinuses.
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>>742111680
>takes out onion
>takes out monster kid and snowy
Who’s next?
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>>742111763
If it works for Zach Hadel it'll work for me.
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>>742111763
adress the video, faggot
prove its not Kris and Noelle
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>>742111854
Not narratively satisfying. Carol, rudy or some form of corrupted Dess (Most likely) are just more satisfying than some hodgepodge of Noelle and Kris
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>>742111854
I couldn't watch more than 15 seconds. That voice is like estrogen on a chalkboard.
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>>742111584
I bailed on Deltarune 10 minutes into it. Is it actually not shit?
I played a few hours of undertale and liked that more
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>>742111943
Ups and downs, I think it has the potential to surpass undertale if it makes the landing though
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How is KriselleKnight going to save Kris from NTR and Suselle?
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>>742112034
I just saw a chapter 1-5 compilation playthrough and its like 18 hours. Is the game itself fun to play, or is it something fully story driven and on rails.
Is it like Persona and its about caring about the characters? Or is the bing bing wahoo stuff actually fun?
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>>742111943
If you liked Undertale then you will like Deltarune more. Playing only for 10 minutes is like playing Undertale before meeting Sans. as of now with chapter 5 released, the gameplay of Deltarune is around 30 hours if you do the secret bosses.
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OP your voice delivery needs a lot of work, don't try to voice act it, it doesn't suit your vocal range. Right now you're projecting from the throat or higher, and it just makes a really nasty staccato buzz on your microphone. Vocal fry, almost.

You're probably right, but the overacting and interspersed cursing is making it hard to sit through. Feels like a highschool freshman video presentation. Good on you for making videos though.
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>>742112313
I got up to the funny skeleton in Undertale and the scary angel/knight thing, but bailed for whatever reason. Is Undertale actually fun to play, or is it mostly about things you read/watch as they happen?
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I saw this theory on vg also
And somehow it was in my recommened like an hour ago
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>>742112230
Pretty much undertale version of Persona along with 3 ship routes, power of friendship and amazing battle music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osX4P-GK1qQ
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>>742112230
To be honest I avoided most of the combat in chapter 5. I just want to know what the fuck is going on in the story. I no longer care about quirky and random character fights and scouring the map for secrets.

Chapter 5 was very disappointing. It's been ten fucking years Toby. I have a career and a mortgage now. Finish your fucking game.
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>>742111943
It's good but It gets worse with each passing chapter so avoid if you don't want to get disappointed. Play the ch1&2 demo then dump it
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>author avatar pops up
>it's a 2d woman
ugh
that explains the shitty voice, stop doing that to your throat, dude
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>>742112230
I’d say the battles are definitely more fun than undertale, I’d honestly recommend just buying it since it’s a meaty game even now with 5/7 chapters.
You can play the first two chapters for free as well so there’s really no excuse not to try
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>>742111784
Toby feels really good at capturing cryptid energy even when everyone is a monster, everything about Goner Bird feels like a spooky campfire story
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>>742112471
Undertale is cute and better to finish it to get all references, as a lot of characters are reused in this alternate universe where there is no war with humans and monsters live in outside world, but this time there is portal to dark world where main characters find friends and do adventures like in Persona 4 other world.
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Now that the dust has settled, census time

>Favorite things about Chapter 5
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
>Who is the Knight?
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
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>>742112602
It’s the fact no one spells it out to you as well, it’s very easy to miss. Really gives the uncanny vibe of something horrible happening in plain sight and no one acknowledging it, that’s more unsettling than if they addressed
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>dark world for the flowers
>all of them want to be humans and not goat monsters like their dad asgore

Does that imply asgore favors his adoptive human child more than his actual one?
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Umm is she wearing a THONG???
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>>742113096
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>>742112492
why is sans the one selling takoyaki here
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Ralsei being pissed at just about everything
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Susie and noelle stuff was grating. especially forcing kris to watch
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
That's tough because I liked most of them... Flowery because aside from pissing off Ralsei, he made good points and showed how hypocritical the heros can be.
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Sadly Susie
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Final boss flowery I'd say
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Ralsei Stocks way up. Susie stocks down.
>Who is the Knight?
Leaning towards rudy but I can't see him ever harming any of Asgore's flowers.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
4>5>3>2>1
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>>742111943
At this point you might as well wait until the whole game is finished.
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Ralsei and Suzie healing Flowey in the sword route are the real reason why a mix of Weird Route + main route will be influential, because Noelle is the only one willing to always do what you say
The prophecy will be unavoidable because of a fake free will that lets the NPCs think they're doing the right thing by ignoring the soul's orders, but will in turn directly cause shit to happen because they refuse to stop something important, or because Susie's fake main character ego kicks in and fights you + Ralsei stops playing along with whatever he and Kris discussed in chapter 1 that led to them both holding back

The intended story route is going to be
>Main story (no optional bosses, has to work even without them for normies that don't just grab all 99 crystals and shadow mantle + whatever)
>main story (with optional shit, doesn't matter, world still ends because of lack of NPC decisions)
>Weird Route mega extreme choices (gives insight on the world, what's actually happening, especially with the out of bounds Gaster zone coming up)
>Weird Route middleground (get Noelle to be strong + listen to you but don't let her go full schizo, meaning you now have a reliable party member but can actually attempt the main story)

The entire story would just be solved if either
>the NPCs just fucking listened to you/Kris stopped being cringe and didn't sabotage the soul at every step
>we just get Rouxls Kaard to lock in because he's the strongest fucking thing in the world
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>>742113347
He sells food at the festival and you also need to buy icecream from him before you go on a date
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
2d section was completely unexpected but very very fucking cool
this chapter was 100% by far the best gameplay wise
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
the chapters story was massively overhyped by 4, "inferno of jealousy" and THE FLOWER MAN TRAPPED IN ASYLUM feel like straight up clickbait now
also he essentially scammed this side of the fanbase by holding off on the full on steven universe tier faggot shit until after he got our 20 dollars, i genuinely expected him to be cooler about that shit but this was almost as bad as post retson homestuck
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
cant decide whether im UOHing or GLUing
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
the gay nigger bullet dancer
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
the mew mew one was kino, flowerman would have been the best if toby sung that shit sunsetter ska style
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
susie either needs to pull kris into a threeway or stfu and let Me____ have them
>Who is the Knight?
rudyknight is even more retarded because hes going to have even more eyes on him after falling off that ladder
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
S: 2 and 4
A: 3
B: 5 (would be higher if not for gay shit)
C: 1 because we barely knew wtf was going on and it was substantially worse than undertale in most aspects besides music
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>>742113710
I meant him and not the normal npc
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>>742113351
Have you seen the video? Its no longer possible for it to be Rudy
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>>742113785
>Its no longer possible for it to be Rudy
?
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so who's gonna win the krisbowl
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>>742113914
No one. Kris doesn’t get the luxury
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>>742113914
Death
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>>742112771
>>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The feather was a great surprise I really thought that was cool. I really liked the sunset cliffs visually. Mew mew fight and flowery fight ending were very cool.

>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
I did not like the festival. It took the chapter a while before I got into it. Really once the cliffs were reached I was in.

>>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Teal/cyan whatever her name was the best new character. Mew mew was probably my favorite but xhe was in undertale.

>>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue. He/she/they was just boring.

>>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Probably mew mew fight. But I may need to listen more to other songs.

>>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I really like the changes to Ralsei and Susie. They have changed so much since chapter 1 and are almost opposites of where they started which is cool.

>>Who is the Knight?
I don't know.

>>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2 > 5 > 4 > 3 > 1
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>>742111584
>Pink & Mad Dummy wasn't a Kris & Soul parallel, it was a Kris & Noelle parallell
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>>742112771
>favourite thing
The love theme of entire chapter and Kris crushing on Susie
>least favourite
Suselle lake event is unbearable to watch more than once
>fav characters
Flowery being a chad
>least fav
Blue faggot
>opinions changed
I like Kris for being more human with own feelings and not just a pushover to support suselle
>fav song
I love Flower Castle theme and friends fighting obstacles with that music. Of course Flower Man is also great.
>who is the knight
seems it might be Kriselle, it fills the gaps left by NoelleKnight
>rank
4>2>3>5>1
Chapter 5 was fun bot heavy on being just a platformer and reference to Sonic or Phoenix Wright. The only lore is almost nothing and theme about love and friendship of Kris and Soul toward companions depicted by Mew Mew seem to be the main point along with "we should not retreat into seclusion into fantasy" like Susie did
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The biggest issue with figuring out who the knight is, is their motivation. the knights actions are basically incomprehensible so it's impossible to actually try and figure out who they are. not to mention the game implying that they've been doing this for a long time now, or maybe even were involved in whatever happened to make dess disappear.
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>>742113914
Suz for sure
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>>742112896
Dark Worlds are molded in the image of their creators
The flowers all represent different sides of Kris
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the thing is asgore says the knight has existd for years.
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>>742113914
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>>742114530
if that were the case how was flowery the same when the knight made a second fountain?
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>Asgore parades the Knight's corpse in public
>Its Dess
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What if the Knight was already a corpse
A living corpse
Maybe even a skeleton?
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>>742114530
>flowers aren't darkners nor ligtners
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>>742114454
Its funny how Kris also walks slower in that segment than normaly even when you run. And if you try to bail, he will stuff you into baloon and walk NEXT TO Susie like an actual couple. Kris is such a pupper dog in love with the dragon
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>>742114707
a corpse can't function in the light world though to run back to the bunker.
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>>742114530
What if their personalities weren't powered by the dark world, but by Asgore being the one who raised them (that's why Flowery is closer to Asriel, and others are closer to Kris)
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>>742114349
>I like Kris for being more human with own feelings and not just a pushover to support suselle
Lmao that wasn't my kris. Me and bro had our faces slammed on the table once we realized neither of their genitals were open to us. Closed eyes on the Ferris wheel too.
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>>742114759
>Weird route Susie doesn't act obsessed with Noelle, even acknowledge that she can get over her as long as Kris still stays
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>>742114863
>closed eyes on ferris wheel
Why would you pick Suselle to get into ferris wheel? You are literally playing against Kris wish
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>>742114543
IIRC he only knows that DWs existed for a while, he doesn't seems to know about the knight itself
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>>742115029
no matter what options you chose susie and noelle will have that lake scene no matter what sadly
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If the knight opened dark fountains in the past, how did the fountains get closed before? Like if asgore needed proof that the dark world existed, couldn't whoever closed it confirm it was true?
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>>742115029
You think I can tell what that fucker wants? Plus I don't really care blah blah blah get to the feather section and the AGP boss fight.
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>>742115082
Rouxls Kaard did it accidentally
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>>742115068
yes almost like its a forced cutscene as much as the prophecy and the romance itself
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>>742115068
You can unlock Kriselle Ferris Wheel ride if you unlock this event with Cattenheimer
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>>742114454
>>742114759
Man, this shit makes my heart hurt for Kris. This Suselle NTR shit better not last, I don't like seeing him hurt.
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>>742114629
You didn't close the fountain in 5 until the end while you were still IN the Dark World. Its not like in Chapter 4 where you enter one, close it, THEN susie makes a new one, etc.

In ch 5 it all stems from the one fountain Kris initially made, you just got kicked out then came back. Also, flowery literally starts 1v1ing the Knight doing 999 damage. This could be seen as the Knight influencing the Dark World. Flowery wasn't nearly as combatitive until the Knight showed up, he even tries to ACT you.
>he could always change his stats
This doesnt mean he was going out of his way to one-shot you. Also, Flowery is likely in on the conspiracy somehow.

>>742114728
Neither is Ralsei, and yet hes clearly meant to be shaped in the image of Asriel.

>>742114858
That's the thing. The flowers are clearly mixes of several different characters. I believe Kris and Asgore both determined the flowers personalities 50/50
>Flowery is Kris' flirtiness and desire to protect loved ones projected onto a college aged Rudy/Noelle/Asriel (Kris made the Fountain immediately after being cucked and Rudy falling, which surely attributed to Flowery's nature)
>Yellow is Kris' desire to punish himself for being complicit in THE INCIDENT
>Aqua is childhood murderhobo Kris
etc. Its like Silent Hill if every characters Silent Hill concepts slightly merged with eachother
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>knight can deal quadruple digit damage
>flowery is capped at 999 even with cheats
uh, flowerybros?
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surely you can't do a pacifist run of all the bullet patterns right?
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Not video games. Deltarune past chapter two is a robust platform for merchandise sales and marketable character moments leveraging the Undertale IP and there just happens to be a game attached.
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i am a shadow, the true self
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Somehow, KrisKnight returned.
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>>742115352
And yet Flowery did more damage since he can multi attack
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>>742115441
not only that but noelle angel and player angel can now fold together under the amalgamate knight banner
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Whats wrong with this faggot
>rape Noelle
OK
>be slightly mean to Suz
> throw you into the water or stuff you into baloon
HOLY SIMPUS MAXIMUS
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
It was cool and fun and funny
Really great character stuff from the core cast (Fun Gang + Noelle) and the flowers were mostly pretty good too
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
It did almost nothing to move the game's mysteries forward. I honestly feel like we learned NOTHING about Asgore that we didn't already know, which is insane. Toby genuinely should not have included that Asgore monologue in Chapter 4 if he wasn't willing to show anything more than what it already told us.
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua and Seth, they're very fun and silly
Ralsei's becoming assertive and the other sides of Noelle we got to see this chapter were also very good
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue is ugly and not funny and their personality is uninteresting. They don't feel like a Toby Fox character. They're not even a good analogue to the Integrity SOUL. It feels like they just exist to be a ball of glue to hold together and dampen the other flowers.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
I haven't listened to the soundtrack enough, but I liked both versions of the Festival theme and the evil 3/4 version of Flashback during Noelle's monologue
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I expected Susie's Dark Knight to Paladin arc and it's good. Her regressing in some ways since Chapter 4 by retreating from reality and getting caught up in the fantasy of the Dark World is an interesting angle.
I like the new insight we got into Noelle and I'm happy she's played how I wanted on the Weird Route.
I didn't expect Ralsei to become so outspoken and aggressive, and I like it a lot.
I'm glad Kris is still yearning for Susie and Noelle and is drowning in regret and jealousy by the end of the Chapter.
>Who is the Knight?
It's still Dess.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
Probably something like 3 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 1
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>Kris finds a way to remove the soul from his body, permanently and without dying, finally gaining real autonomy
>we need to find a new vessel to win
>Sans is out of the question because he's working with Gaster this time around
>but then it dawns on you
>Rouxls Kaard exists
>he wants glory and a partner
>but he's too dogshit to use his own strength
>the knight can break the rules of the game
>we just makes new rules
Rouxls bros we'll be the one to rape the knight
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>>742115606
It wasn’t Noelle that was raped…
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>>742115606
Kris is NOT happy if you rape noelle
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>>742115359
Some of this is just going to be Toby thinking an edgy pose like that is cool, and he had to write 2 edgy characters.
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Argentina used to be 85% white
Real Argentinians will never be brown, no matter how much this hurts the subhumans on this shitty brown website.
"
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>>742112771
>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
everything involving blue. He ruin every scene he is in.
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please do not the cat
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>Krusie get wholesome moment ignoring the rules
>Kriselle are synced up like a single body
>Suselle is just a failure that need to force the bell to work
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cRkXGSN-WE
This can't be random. Why woudn't Toby imply they are the bestest chemistry?
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>>742115852
That is a fully grown woman ghost who preys on kids.
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>>742115852
please do the cat
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>>742115847
Seriously fucking go back >>>/pol/ to your containment shithole
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The real indicator that Susie's not progressing at all is that her Better Heal spell doesn't improve at all this chapter
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>>742115912
>woman
lol no
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HOW THE FUCK DO I GO FASTER
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The regular non-schizo fights are getting harder and i really like that
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Susie x Noelle is fucking ass and i'm not even a shipfag. I just find their realtionship painfully badly written and it even ruins Susie when Noelle isn't on screen because she just goes "oH yOu ThInK nOeLlE wOuLd LiKe ThIs???"
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Flowery
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Either Blue or Yellow
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie is fucking boring now. Spamton became even more kino since everything he said was correct
>Who is the Knight?
I don't fucking know
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
4 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 5
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Weird Route.
>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Forced Suselle.
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Flower Man.
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie has changed both more than should be possible and less than I thought.
>Who is the Knight?
Still Dess.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2 > 3 > 5 > 4 > 1
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HERE IS COME SAN(s)
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>>742115876
Real talk I am so tired of the constant shipping in this game did we really need a live triangle?
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>>742115441
...And along with the body of NoelleKnighters
I guess you can't explain antlers without Noelle and you can't explain the poses without Kris involvement

I GUESS its possible that Chapter 7 will explain how Kris and Noelle created the Knight and were able to go back in time. But i feel this shit is going to be really cosmic and 4th wall breaking which i hate in Toby's work. He says he doesnt want to posion the story with irony but trying to preach to players about their immorality in forcing a video game character is everything irony related
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>>742115963
Ludokino...
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Star

walker
rapes the Kroelle Knight
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>>742116062
I agree. I couldn't care less about shipping so any scene about it is just boring to me
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>>742116013
Kris is meant to be the universe's cuck
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>>742116062
we needed live a live triangle
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>>742116009
jump 3 squares at the beginning instead of two
also keep hopping for the speed boost
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>>742115290
>I don't like seeing him hurt
I do. Even if he's 100% doing all this shit for a good reason, it's important that he knows that there are consequences for playing the antagonist.
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>>742116158
But (You) can change that.
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>>742115963
it really does feel like all of gerson's advice just sluiced off of her
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>>742115712
But he could just stop us at any time. Faggot was just tempted to do Weird Route and create the Knight who somehow is in parallel timeline with Normal route and creating time paradox
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>>742115290
I like how much the Weird Route makes you feel like a huge piece of shit this time
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>>742116062
It’s not a love triangle, it’s just a Kris getting cucked for plot reasons and Susie/Noelle
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>>742116308
Where's her dick
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Will we ever get a serious Papyrus fights? So far Deltarune expanded on Undertale bosses/mechanics with full Neo fight, Gerson fight, orange soul and etc. So do you think there will be a Papyrus boss fight? What does his special attack actually do?
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>>742111680
The stall is empty during Weird Route, my man.
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>>742116074
Characters merging into a horrifying all-powerful abomination at the far end of the story and using hax to go back and enforce their existence isn't really a novel idea. I guess you can say they've been here the whole time.
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>>742116342
>It’s not a love triangle
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>>742115876
To bait and string fools like you along. I don't know how people can still cope after ch5, you need to snap out of it. Honestly, can you give me one instance of an author intentionally writing something godawful for story reasons later on?
Even if that is the case, does it honestly even matter if Suselle doesn't work out in the end? Fact of the matter is, Susie is rent free about Noelle now. It's going to take up time and rob every other relationship of good on screen interactions. Resolving Suselle is going to waste time from both chapters so you'll still be left with shit in the end anyway, a hollow victory
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>>742116228
It's not worth the terrible vibes. Kris should just open a dark fountain in a shed with mew mew. Noelle is a weird dork anyways.
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>>742116062
Chapter 5 is literally a Valentines day chapter, but since Toby fucked with deadlines he chose to post it on japanese Yuri Day
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>>742112201
>that soul
Literally me
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
I liked the extremely obvious references to theories and the like. Like making that picture for Sans, Omega, Freedom motif in the dojo, etc.
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
We didn't learn that much, it's a bit weird to see Susie's chapter 4 end state and how we're in chapter 5, and I'm not too keen on the knight just showing up at the very end to kidnap somebody again.
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua. Always fun to have on screen. Flowery was very well done to be an asshole who you hate but then turn on.
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue's shit.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Cutie Mew Mew Magic, but there were quite a few top tier songs.
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Ralsei both turned out to be more believable by showing a human side, and less trustworthy with the fire spell and skipping puzzles.
>Who is the Knight?
Rudy.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2>5>3>4>1
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>>742116445
She forgets Kris exists like 5 minutes later kek
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>>742115606
kris gets so done with your shit after noelle they wont even think about objects you interact with
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Will kris being the most cucked man alive matter to the plot?
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>>742111784
Hmm. There's a path that goes off the rails that results in skipping most of the game. It isn't Weird Route, because you still fight Tenna, Knight and the Titan, so you're still on the rails but on a different track. The true derailing presumably happens in Chapter 2. Normal NPC is a blue bird that blocks your path in the library. That path is going to involve baiting Normal NPC into Cyber World and getting Noelle to Snowgrave it in place of Berdly, isn't it?
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>>742115963
What is the limit in chapter 4? I think i progressed to 75 TP per heal
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>>742116432
I need her so fucking bad
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>>742116302
Doesnt the soul enter the text box outside of Kris? He clearly wasn't ready for it he thought the soul was stuck in the closet.
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>>742116618
Yeah that's the limit for chapter 5 too
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Weird route
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Ralsei
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Yellow
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Mew Mew's theme
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Noelle was always crazy.
>Who is the Knight?
My kromers still on Rudy
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2>4>3>1>5
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>>742112771
>fave thing
Proceeding
>least favorite
Festival was a bit lacking
>favorite character
Green
>least fave
Blue
>song
Uh whatever plays during the Festival or when Noelle is going mental
>opinions
Susie's losing it
>who is Knight
Dess
>ranking
4 > 2 > 1 > 5 > 3
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>>742116562
Just give me 3 minutes in his body without any of the sabotaging and I'll make him fuck Catti and Aqua at the same time
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Gameplaywise the platforming was really fun. Overall Ralsei and Flowery interactions wer all great
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Snorefest festival
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Flowery my man
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Flower Foyer
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Ralsei is moving up, really like him now. Asgore is a little less pathetic.
>Who is the Knight?
Rudy naturally
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
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>>742116562
>could have score with the ghost, at least
>Susie cockblock him
Yes
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>>742112771
OST, final boss and platforming
Kris being cucked for yurishit at least it les to funny memes
Orange or green
Blue or man mew mew
Flower man
I hate how Susie was retconned into bullying Kris out of jealousy because she thought he was dating Noelle, hope they have a falling out next chapter
Rudy
4>2>5>1>3
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>the secret good ending unlocked after Normal Route ends on Suselle
>Guess Im in love OST plays outside of the window
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>>742115876
Suselle is the delusional version of teen romance between people who aren't sure they can make it work but it works out anyway because it's the "normal route". I think it's great in that way. Everyone involved knows it's a cringy too good to be true thing. Even Susie probably realizes it. Their "love" is like a flower. Looks good for one day and then rots forever. Even better, Susie keeps thinking that it'd be great if this lasted forever like she said in earlier chapters. If she really wanted to HELP solve the whole mystery, her first instinct would be to go to Carol and explain what she already knows (including the fact that Kris is making the fucking fountains), not to get Noelle to play pretend with her in NIGGERtown. That's the opposite of trying to solve this. She's too much into playing the hero and she will crash so badly for it I feel bad for her now more than ever.
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I honestly didn't expect deltarune to get the AoT ending treatment
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>>742111584
Transexual game
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>>742112896
No Toby just over relies on that trite fucking trope as much as the average Star Trek writer. I think he's done it like a billion times now.
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cant stop thinking about how, if the theory of knight being a fusion between kris a noelle is correct, it would make the knight a throuple
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Ralsei being fucking pissed, the new mechanic, Flowery, Weird Route
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Felt a bit too long and fillery given the point we're at in the story. Suselle shit in general but especially the lake scene
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Flowery
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue I guess. I didn't really hate em outside of the guy supporting Suselle but I didn't care much for em either.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Flower Man easily.
>How have your opinions on characters changed
Susie unfortunately took a hit. It was a damn shame that she became a Noelle obsessed robot and her character regressed. If we are counting Weird Route then man Weird Noelle is hot and continues to prove that whenever she is away from Susie (including on normal route) she is far more interesting and fun. Girl's got layers.
>Who is the Knight
I'm thinking Rudy if only because it'd be the most messed up given the events that have transpired and follow with all the Holidays being fucking weirdos in some way.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
Likely to change more solidly but
4>5>2>3>1
with 5 and 2 being pretty interchangeable at the moment.
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>>742115705
>the rose getting patched out was actually meta logic for only the player/Kris remembering
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Is Kris going to be cucked by the vessel too???
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>>742116790
making things awkward by always talking about her new girlfriend is one thing, but this was ridiculous
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>>742116865
Imagine how much he’d whimper and moan if you touched his beans
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>>742116337
I'm glad as Krusiebro i can relate to Kris more.
Deltarune really feels like if Stein Gate but with two main girls cucking the MC
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>>742116457
>Noelle is a weird dork anyways
Just like Kris
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>has the most dialogue in Undertale
>doesn't appear at all in Deltarune
is this just an elaborate joke to fuck with us by Toby or was Papyrus
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>>742111943
its shit
Its just very entertaining shit to be a part of
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>>742117089
They're all the same damn character
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Well?
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>>742116629
>When she says "You can't even say no like you used to!"
What the fuck did she and Kris get up to when they were kids?
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The gameplay and music
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Susie becoming annoyingly obsessed with noelle
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Probably flowery but green and yellow are both fun to be around so they're in the running
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Susie for obvious reasons
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Flower Man or Sunset of Seven Suns, can't pick
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie went from a 10/10 charcter to a 3 at best
>Who is the Knight?
I've been firmly in the dess knight camp since chapter 3 but I can't deny rudy knight has something to it. Who fucking knows at this point.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
4>5>3=2>1
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>>742117064
>blocks you from berdley
>blocks you from mew mew
susies a cunt
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>>742116202
Well, yeah, but I feel like there's a limit to how much retributive pain he deserves. Having his heart crushed under heel over and over seems like a bit of overkill.
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>>742116790
getting cucked out of dating a troon ghost and the anime robot is insane.
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where are edits with Kris and JUST memes?
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>>742117143
Ralsei
Become the chair
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this feels different after the weird route
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>>742116790
Fucking women I let her ride the Ferris wheel with noelle but noooooooo she just has to keep her plan b
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>>742117178
This is a common abuse tactic btw
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>>742112771
>favorite things
Snapping straight into 2D platformer mode with no buildup once we got the macguffin to let us do that. Cool as hell.
Orange soul mode is fun and well introduced. Only complaint is that it still uses yellow charge particles.
>least favorite things
Suselle was gratuitous and neither of them acted like themselves for the majority of the festival. Literally the only thing that's maintained once they go into "yuri mode" is Susie being the dumber one.
>favorite character
Flowery. Felt like a fun play on several of the ideas we've seen in chapter antagonists before.
>least favorite character
Blue. Attached to the funniest individual flower with the sole apparent purpose of making him unfunnier. Only allowed to be in the wrong once in a cafe scene that's still comedic. All this feels connected to the fact that he's got a "pretty boy" aesthetic despite not being "pretty" and instead looking like a knockoff Steven Universe gem.
>favorite song
Cutie Mew Mew Magic, with Flower Man in second place. The shock value of hearing Hatsune Miku in a secret boss was unmatched, the implication that most of the song is the MMKC2 OP (or at least the dummy trying to sing along to it) is great, the lyrics subtly referring to the fucking weird route is A+. I wish Pink didn't feel like she'd been rewritten last minute to be all about the player being "mean" to Kris.
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Not too much. I'm shocked how quickly Susie has gone from trying to resist the prophecy to falling into its loving arms but hoping that's an intentional plot point and not just Toby forgetting his own fucking work. I'm shocked that the shit Bratty did to Pizzapants was treated properly and zero of the resolutions end with him being "the loser".
>the Knight
Kris + Noelle Amalgam is looking possible, but for now I'm still feeling Dess. Maybe if ch6 foreshadows something that could send the amalgam back I'd switch.
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>>742115876
>Kriselle act like a single body
wait, but the KriselleKnight isn't actually real, yeah? Why would Noelle and Kris almost job to Flowery?
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>>742117091
if you combined chara with the narrator would she have more?
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>>742111854
if this is gonna be the entire story of deltarune i would never forgive toby of being such a hack
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Link to the Mew Mew scene? I didn't get it.
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>>742117194
Something something if he gets too involved things will get worse so he has to make it work out for others while staying on the sidelines. In other words typical prophesy BULLSHIT.
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>>742112896
They know they're not Asgore's real kids, but his adoptive kid is a human, so as his adoptive kids they must be human. I think that's the logic.
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The 2D sections and the general visual disparity of this chapter
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Festival normal shore.
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Sunset of Seven Suns
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I really disliked Noelle in the normal route but the Festival options with Kris make me like her more. Susie hasn't changed I feel the Weird route Susie festival balances the normal one. Ralsei has vastly improved.
>Who is the Knight?
Rudy, started saying this as a meme back in Chapter 2 so it's funny seeing it starting to come true.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 1
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>>742117143
Ralsei since Kris has already been cucked.
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>>742116441
>>742116074
Are you guys implying kris and noelle are just pulling a lord english?
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>>742117171
>but I can't deny rudy knight has something to it
Holidays are always full of surprise after all.
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>>742116928
>Mew mew inside the noose
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>>742116629
So if Knight is her combined with Kris, does it mean they have sex 24/7???
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>>742117064
Having ralsei join in instead of just say nothing or get confused that Susie said that suggests that no, the writers have no idea how one of your friends calling you a slur in front of someone you're making a move on would come off to most people.
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I'm going to go fucking ballistic if Ralsei leaves the party next chapter. I was promised Fireshock.
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Aqua, Seth and Flowery were really fun characters, and I personally loved the Mad Mew Mew fight as a whole, her song is still stuck in my head.

>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
The whole Suselle thing and how it character assassinated Susie. The writing as a whole took a nosedive because Toby's LGBTboner is too hard and it's really getting on my nerves. By far the most forced romance I've seen in a long time.

>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua my beloved.

>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue. It's not that I hate him as a character, but he's the embodiment of everything wrong about Toby's obsession with gay couples.

>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Mad Mew Mew by far, I was vibing through the whole fight.

>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie and we all know that's the general opinion. Noelle was already obnoxiously gay when sharing screen with Susie, so we didn't need this to happen the other way too while at the same time having her treat Kris like a disposable third wheel. The whole Catti scene also didn't need to happen, both Noelle and Susie acted like uncharacteristically massive assholes.

>Who is the Knight?
Rudy.

>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
4 > 2 > 3 >>> 5 > 1. I only put 5 above 1 because the gameplay was really good and I would have enjoyed more 2D sections, but everything else drags it down. 1 is the tutorial chapter, I'm not going to pretend it has better gameplay than the others.
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>>742112771
>>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Ralsei being less nice.
Flowers not being paragons of their respective traits.
Character interaction as usual, Noelle included.
>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
I understand the plot relevance of Suselle, but the constant Kris suffering is starting to piss me off by proximity.
>>Favorite Chapter 5 character
FLO-WER MAN
>>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue. I couldn't care less about its design or gender - he's just irrelevant and drag down any scene Yellow is in.
>>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Either Flower Man, Shop 3, the Mew Mew song or Running Sky.
>>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I genuinely think Ralsei is interesting now.
>>Who is the Knight?
I don't care. Probably not Rudy since he wouldn't bisect Flowery. He'd know his value to Gorey.
>>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
5 > 4 > 3 > 2 > 1
Ever upwards.
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>>742117478
>The Roaring Knight is the most /k/-coded character in vidya
woah
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>>742117163
>Hey Kris, I saw Big Sis and Azzy play some kind of new game in her room...Want to play it with me?
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>>742117478
Well their bodies are always melding all the time
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>>742112230
play at least until chapter 2. you can pretty much gauge it from there. chapter 2 is where kinda clearly see what the game is supposed to be in general
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I mean, given that Deltarune seems to be a time-loop...
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>>742116790
Will there be any fan art of Kris&Soul having a foursome with Mad Dummy ghost and Mew Mew Darkner?
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>>742117178
She also made the situation worse with Catti and Noelle. God damn.
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>>742117635
>muh Dess
No.
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>>742117597
>No, Dess just ran me dry earlier!
>...How IS she doing it with Azzy too, actually?
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>>742117091
All of those phone calls are gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqcl_cOZ-W8
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>>742116790
First kiss is an important aspect of a confirmed romance. Susie and Noelle still didn't kiss, and it's implie Kris will be able to choose between at least Ralsei or Susie to kiss. Thats why it was only a kiss on the forehead
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>>742117337
The Knight ultimately didn't lose though and it would be in line with the Knight apparently also being aware of meta gameplay elements like Kris and Ralsei
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>>742111584
The knight is friend, I swear you retards will come up with any inane shit.
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The 10 minutes of weird route were better then the entire normal route
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>>742117781
The Knight is Papyrus
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>>742117763
Kris will die and Susie will use a kiss to revive them
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Where is Onion-san

Is he safe

Is he alright
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Anyone got a link for the .flac soundtrack of ch5?
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Did she really have to say that?
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>>742112771
>>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Weird route and the flowery fight.
>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
The extremely forced gender stuff.
I'm giving the Susie and Noelle stuff a pass for now since I think it's still leading up to something.
>>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua. Best flower by far. Seth was also alright.
>>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue.
>>Favorite Chapter 5 song
While Flower Man comes close, it's Who might you be?. It perfectly encapsulate the feeling of Deltarune that it's supposed to have.
>>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Chapter 5 sucked massively when it comes to characters. It feels extremely off.
>>Who is the Knight?
I'm still assuming it's Dess, but I will actually not be very surprised if it ends up being Rudy.
>>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
Chapter 2 still remains on the top. After that comes chapter 4, then 1, then 3 and then 5.
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What if the dark fountaints are literally fountains spewing darkness/water/dark water upwards, and since the dark world is under the light world, the water pressure is keeping the light world afloat.
So if you have too many fountains, the light world is pushed up and it flies off into space
And if you have no dark fountains, the light world falls and breaks
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>>742117902
It needed to be said
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>>742116790
Who's to say he didn't score?
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>>742111854
I'd watch it but your voice is cringing me out.
I really tried, but 1 minute was my limit.
Worst part is you're trying to make yourself sound tough as hell with the intonation.
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>"Where's Monster Kid?"
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>>742117091
Toby loves trying to show that the objective things you can count about a character or thing aren't necessarily the good parts of the character or thing. Papyrus wasn't good because he had a lot of dialogue.
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>>742117194
This is the sane take
Nothing Kris did justifies getting NTRed repeatedly
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>>742117992
She knew too much
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>>742116940
The fact every let's player push Suselle playing this tells me that was actually intentional as Toby was baiting Undertale fans who creamed their pants over Alphyne and is basically telling them why shallow yuri shit sucks. Kris is the one bonding with Susie and falling in love, he is not going to give a shit about supporting lesbians on pride month to appeal to you tube chat.
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>>742112896
Asgore needs a human
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>>742117478
That would mean that Kris made a promise to himself, which doesn't make sense.
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>>742117992
Which Deltarune character will get the "Isn't she lovely" montage when they die?
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>>742111584
>you can't play chapter 6 with a weird route save file
>BUT you can follow some steps and start a weird route during this chapter
YOUR REACTION?!
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>>742113347
Beware the man from the other world :)
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>>742118023
Me on the left
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Mew Mew
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>>742118069
Susie
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>>742118082
Would make sense
So the people who aborted can go back to it. Would be based.
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>>742118023
Imagine having these two as your girlfriend
I'd never complain about anything ever again
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Mew Mew
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Susie ruining my Mew Mew sex time
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Mew Mew
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Susie (for ruining my Mew Mew sex time)
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Cutie Mew Mew Magic
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie no longer deserves to die, she MUST die
>Who is the Knight?
A bitch
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
3 > 5 > 4 > 2 > 1
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>>742117305
Is it literally miku in the song I didn't notice but my brain probably did
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I cannot take seriously any opinion on this plot held by someone who doesn't respect the authority of the power tester scene
Suselle is very obviously doomed yuri and the fact that Susie got mind blasted by escapism so hard that she abandoned Noelle to grieve her dying father alone only cements that
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>>742116390
That doesn't mean anything. A food stall being empty at the end of an event isn't unusual. He sold all of his takoyaki :)
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>>742118023
DOUBLE PAIZURI!
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Shota kris being tag teamed onee-san frisk and chara when?
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>>742118156
All you're getting is a moody ghost and a doll that belongs to the local florist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYkOBh1PDKI
I genuinely didn't expect to feel emotions at the apparent end of the Egg Man. But after all this weird jumping through hoops he finally gives us everything we need apparently.
Went and checked up the dialogue for the other states and he actually shows concern for Kris getting disoriented from seeing the endless array of trees.
It's nice to know at least one of these meta characters is out and out benevolent. But we'll never see him again
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>>742118162
Damn, why 2 so low? No mew mew?
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>>742113351
Chapter 5 being anywhere but the very worst in a ranking of the chapters is indicative of a person who has no sense of recency bias.
Chapter 5 is dogshit.
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>>742118082
No aborted snowgrave jingle means you're still on the wild ride, chapter 6 is going to be too noelle/holiday family heavy to ignore it
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>>742113096
Make her go faster.
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>>742118182
You do realize that Noele and Susie did the festival togeter and Susie is recounting everything that happened? The stall was empty the whole day, dude.
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>>742117763
Brutal that Susie thinks Kris is a chad and doesn’t even realise he thinks of her like that or that rejecting him would hit that hard while Kris knows that Susie is the only person he’s capable of feeling any connection too.
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>>742115352
in Bravely Default damage cap multihit spam is way more effective than using Second
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>>742117635
I can't wait until this game is done so I can stop seeing this schizo bullshit
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>>742118236
Agreed I wasn't expecting that last egg theme to hit so hard. I wonder what it will ultimately result in
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>>742111584
I've said this for ages. Everyone called me insane.
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How come Kris never made her smile like this?
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>>742118317
The schizo bullshit is an intended part of the experience
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>Noelle, confused, holds onto your other ear, but doesn't pull it
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>>742118347
If you believe the next fountain is the hospital
Then its probably going to unlock the hidden therapy room kris has mentally blocked out.
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>>742118265
Chapter 5 can't be last by virtue of having a kino Weird Route. 1 doesn't have much going for it comparatively which is why it's generally the bottom of most people's lists
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>>742116615
The fuck are you talking about
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>>742111584
>FemKris and Noelle Knight gained the biggest evidence this release
4chan theories won
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>>742118359
He did this though
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>>742118347
Nothing too important, nothing too unimportant
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>>742118082
More like
>weird route save file for chapter 6
>won't let you play
>but you keep trying to load the file
>the game lets you play anyway
It's obvious, but this will lead to a different ending from the one where you wait for chapter 7 to resume this save file
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>>742118217
and that’s bad because…?
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>>742118236
That’s UT Gaster, he’s a chill guy and knows everything since he’s split across time and space.
DR is an amoral sociopath torturing darkners for research.
UT Gaster knows better now and is actively pushing Kris not to hunt him down, because it’ll just end in ruin
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>>742118359
Kris could not grant her freedom
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>>742118217
And my life would be complete
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Remember that Toby will stick the landing and you're homophobic if you think otherwise
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>>742118359
He made her smile BETTER >>742118435
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>>742112771
Favorite things
>gameplay being the best it ever was, best chapter boss, actual flaws in the character being shown
Least favorite
>how overdone some of Susie's flaws seem to be, Asgore vague posting
Favorite Chapter 5 Character
>TEN FEET TWENTY
Least
>blue somewhat redeemed by the ace attorney reference
favorite Chapter 5 song
>Flower Man, Running Sky, Cliffs Area
opinions characters
>I still don't like Ralsei being so fucking clingy, but this chapter was a net upgrade for him, fuck Susie's character this chapter(in good and bad ways), Noelle was also great, I wish Asgore did more
Knight
>Dess.
ranking
>3>4>5>2>1
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>>742112771
>>Favorite things about Chapter 5
really liked all of the flower characters, entire castle section was kino. loved how many gimmick fights they threw in. also the platforming stuff was a great addition, almost wish it was a permanent upgrade in chapter 1 and the whole game was built with it in mind instead of just being a chapter 5 thing
>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
festival stuff was complete ass, susie's sudden obsession with noelle feels like character assassination. garden and cliff sections were ok but a little underwhelming. going into the castle i was expecting to not like this chapter, but that really saved it for me
>>Favorite Chapter 5 character
yellow, the whole segment where he wants to kill himself was great
>>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
probably susie, but if we're just talking new characters then i'd say orange was a little weak and one-note
>>Favorite Chapter 5 song
mew mew fight song obviously
>>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
chapter 6 is really going to end up framing how i feel about the character stuff in chapter 5. if the noelle and susie stuff is actually being played straight, then my estimation of toby's character writing has plummeted. but if this is all about susie trying the subvert the prophecy by forcing noelle into the party and susie doesn't actually have strong feelings for noelle, then i'll view chapter 5's character stuff as a fun ride on the ruse cruise. i'm inclined to trust toby, but i also feel like this pairing is popular enough with the tumblr fanbase that he wouldn't have the balls to push it to the forefront this much for it to just be a fakeout. if it is a fakeout, then i don't susie is going to end up with kris either, i think there just wont be any overt romance between the main cast.

the ralsei stuff was good though
>>Who is the Knight?
december obviously
>>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
3 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 1
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>>742117848
We will see next chapter. Last premonition from Chapter 4 is the "hells tail crawling" and then it's pretty much over just some final tragedy and sacrifice
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Patchouli Deltarune
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
goner squad talking about fun values, gold and other undertale shit while serving cooked onionsan
flowery as a whole and all his schticks
the final farewell scene with the flowers
platforming
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
the festival was lame, i expected something better
they couldn't even draw a scene for the ferris wheel
THE LITERALLY MOST HYPED UP MOMENT SINCE CHAPTER 2
fucking black screen
that's kind of it, i hoped to see more after dark world stuff too i guess
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
flowery, easily
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
blue, lame design
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
FLOWER MAN FLOWER MAN
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
i still feel the same, i don't really get the susie hate bandwagon yet
she always acted like an asshole and a retard
>Who is the Knight?
it's painfully obviously rudy
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters

S tier - 2, 3, 4, 5
B tier - 1
1 really doesn't have much going for it besides jevil, the rest are all good
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So uh
Why couldn't Ralsei heal Flowery, exactly?
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repostin' the best version of flower man since this shit's actually pretty good
https://files.catbox.moe/e4vm4z.mp3
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>>742118503
Fucking slut
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>>742118251
It being low doesn't mean I dislike it, I simply like the stakes and vibes 4 brings, Mew Mew and the fun of Tenna and chapter 3 more
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>>742112523
why even play it then, just watch a plot summary on youtube
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>>742115912
What happens if you never use the flirt acts?
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>>742118503
Need more Sethany ass
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>>742118451
Neither did Susie
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>>742118437
>We fuck the prophecy in a way it can't account for because it can't perceive it
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>>742118529
I'm about to fucking puke, what is this garbage?
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>>742118503
Saggy...
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>>742111763
it's not his fault he wasn't willing when taking estrogen
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>>742118532
Imagine how wet she would be if she met Berdly.
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>>742118503
That is a child
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>>742118490
Ralsei is hiding more from us
I can tell
I know you are trees ralsei
I know you know what you know
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>>742111584
>FUARK THE LATEST CHAPTER SOLVES EEEEEEVERYTHING ESPECIALLY THE THING I (ME) BELIEVE!! CLICK MY THEORY VIDEO DO IT CLICK HERE
>2 more chapters that arent even out yet
When will you monkeys learn holy shit just wait and read
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>>742118490
We are absolutely not seeing the shelter next chapter
We're gonna be trapped in the mansion fighting the ghosts of christmas past, present, and future
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>>742118069
Susie is 100% getting The Montage featuring moments like the Chapter 4 juice
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>>742118450
I dont know how I feel about the Forgotten Man just being Gaster. He feels Distinct enough but I mean we know absolutely nothing about either really so it easily could be. It just sort of makes the world feel a little smaller but what do I know.
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>>742118524
he was only healing the outside, they needed Susie's BETTER heal but she didn't do shit. Maybe she was too busy thinking about Noelle, and if Noelle would like her to heal Flowery. I don't know.
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>>742118503
Best flower made for best boy
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>>742115912
>seth is a better wingwoman than susie and ralsei
shit's fucked
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I liked that Noelle thanked us at the beginning of Ch 5 WR. We helped her become fully self-aware.
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>>742118293
Ok but why would he set up a takoyaki stand and get all of his ingredients out (when Susie takes Kris there, there are still fresh lemons sitting out) if Onion-san hadn't been prepared as an ingredient? I still don't think his absence means anything for Onion-san. All it tells us is that maybe Kris staying home made the bird guy stay home too for Gaster-shenanigan-related reasons
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>>742118524
Too injured, I imagine. His body split in half.
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>>742118675
Lmao
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>>742118598
So is this implying that Kris truly thinks Berdley is really smart deep down?
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>>742118665
She so fucking sexy when she's like this
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What happens if you sue Toby Fox in a federal US District Court?
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>>742116009
Just give up.
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>>742118640
He’s based off the mother 1 forgotten man so I’d imagine it’s all connected. I do see where you’re coming from though
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So what the fuck is gonna happen to Maddy in the Light World? She just vanished. Will she go back to being a ghost? Did she merge with that tiny figurine and will she be tiny forever? Will she just be her UT self and magically become a human-sized Mewmew doll? And did she hide while Kris was searching the store? Will we see her watering the flowers taking over Gorey's shop while he's gone (like she told Orange) or will she just already appear in Castle Town for shenanigans instead?
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What does the Pink and Yellow mean? Do we need to fucking follow Suselle since Susie is pink and Noelle is yellow??
If Spamton have those eyes and focuses on Noelle/Yellow does it mean FRIEND will focus on Susie??
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>>742118524
Probably cant heal real wounds
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>>742118524
Internal damage. Same as Jackenstein
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>>742118747
You become one of the best Takoyaki recipes
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>>742118236
>in MANCOUNTRY (Chapter 3 Egg) he says that he may forget himself
>Come Chapter 5, the egg doesn't have his own leitmotif, instead it plays the song where the first egg was (Scarlet Forest)
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>>742117902
He's right doebeit
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>>742118721
Why does no one draw her showing her butthole? Everyone draws her showing her pussy or tits
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Why is this weird ass looking bird such a big part of the games?
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>>742118756
What were they doing behind that curtain?
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>>742118781
>Goner tools
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>Chapter 6 will have Noelle crash out and break up with Susie, kicking off the Dark Night Of The Soul
>Chapter 6 """aborted""" WR will hard pivot into Noelle abusing her newfound free will to control Susie against you
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>>742116472
>Chapter 5 is literally a Valentines day chapter
>Full of NTR
Huh?
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
2D part was actually pretty fun, and the difficulty outside of the secret bosses has gotten better, regular fights just aren't completely brain dead easy now.

>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Anything involving Susie and Noelle's relationship. What >>742116026 said pretty much summarizes how I feel, but I want to add in that Toby has now had years of writing this shit with it being one sided on Noelle's end(Susie suddenly caring that much about Noelle came out of nowhere), and Undyne and Alphys in Undertale, and he's still fucking terrible at it. Noelle and Susie are fine characters outside of it, but as soon as the conversation involves, or becomes about, the two of them, the quality of writing just craters. I don't give a fuck if teen's obsessing about their crush is realistic, it fucking sucks to read. I'm not a shipfag, so normally I wouldn't go on about this shit, but with how much the focus of the chapter was on romantic tension and relationships, I feel like I have to. It does not bode well for the future chapters.

>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Either Flowery or Aqua. I thought they'd end up grating on me, but I ended up liking them the whole chapter.

>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue, again, Toby sucks at writing romance, and that is pretty much the focus of Blue's writing. Outside of that, I think Blue was meant to be a wise and mature figure to the group, but it just made him boring.

>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Maybe Mew Mew or Sunset of Seven Suns, but I'll probably think it over more and change it. The music in this chapter was great, so I'm probably just forgetting something. Honorable mention to Petal Dance, but it was played too much which I think soured me on it a bit. It should have just been Aqua's theme.

>opinions on characters?
Susie has gotten worse with the Noelle stuff, and honestly the writing quality across the board has gone down a bit.

>Overall chapter ranking
2>4>5>1>3
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Why is Toby so bitter about hat Ralsei?
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>>742111584
what are the eggs evidence of?
that the dark worlds "exists"?
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>>742118770
It was just another part of Tony's gasterlighting act
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>>742118665
Get your stupid antlers out of the text box you self aware dummy
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>>742118359
>>742118435
kind of obvious who's getting the better head
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>>742118524
the knight killed his real body (the flower) outside the dark world with his bullshit plot power
same as with tenna
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>>742118828
that's clearly a smilin dood
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>>742118747
idk, what're you suing for?
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>>742118556
Nothing, Toby is canonically lazy now.
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>>742118881
Evidence that Kris went through therapy?
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>>742118764
Maddie will return to just being a doll and mannequin ghost will still be a ghost inhabiting the doll. Since Asgore is gone, the ghost will most likely take care of the flowers in his stead assuming Susie doesn't do something like try to swipe them and bring them to Youtown or something
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>>742118867
Thinking mans fetish, anon
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>>742118828
Wouldn't say they're a big part
But certainly an obstacle
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>>742118863
>Chapter 6 """aborted""" WR will hard pivot into Noelle abusing her newfound free will to control Susie against you
Imagine Noelle sparing sussie and getting Sussie Recruited message
Kino
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>>742118896
Isn't that the body being hurt in the DW being reflected into the real world?
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>>742118164
Yes it is! And it's a collab with one of the big Miku artists too iirc.
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>>742112523
>I avoided most of the combat
Aaaaand opinion discarded
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>>742118881
He went to therapy after THAT event whatever it was.
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>>742118867
Half of this is genuine schizophrenia
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>>742118925
that doesn't make any sense, the trial fight says they are evidence of something that happen in the future
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>Toby hyped up so much the festival
>it's bare bones and just rubs NTR all over your face without even giving you the chance to opt out on being a third wheel
I don't get it
Did he think this garbage feels in any way romantic?
This felt like torture and humiliation in multiple fronts
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>>742118876
>2>4>5>1>3
??? how come people don't leave 1 at the bottom? It's boring as fuck (or maybe I've played it too many times and that's why I can't stand it anymore?)
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>>742118863
>>742118967
Please stop getting excited over ideas that won't happen. You do this every time.
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>>742118881
Kris saw something beyond the tree that perma mindfucked him
Likely perceived the true nature of his reality or some shit
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>>742118967
>You can recruit her back
>It's just a tug of war of recruiting Susie until Ralsei goes "fuck this" knocks Susie out with his song and uses a fire blast on Noelle
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>>742118968
i don't know if it works that way for darkners
he's different from kris/susie since his human body isn't real and just an illusion of darkness
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>En: Seth
>Jp: Moris
I'm struggling to figure out what the reference/origin here is.
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>>742118881
Kris is trans and need his eggs cracked. Goose was the guest writer of Deltarune
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Rejoice, human! Your wish is about to come true.
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>>742118764
my expectation is
>maddy is back to being a ghost now, can still merge with the figurine though
>will look after the flowers (though we won't see it)
>potentially goes to castletown too to hang out with everyone and be in her preferred form rather than tiny figure form insert IT'S ESCAPISM CAN'T YOU SEE IT'S NOT HEALTHY
>if we get a happy ending, someone might make her a properly-sized mewmew to fully merge with
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>>742118717
For all his shit, Berdly is Kris' friend. They did have a thing like bantering each other before Kris met Susie.
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Where will we find her?
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>>742111584
https://noelleknight.neocities.org/
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>>742119054
I'm gonna kill that fucking cat
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>>742114454
Chapter 6 should have been released alongside 5 because an NTR ending of all things was the worst way to end this chapter. Kris deserves better.
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>>742117902
Asexuals are just incels in denial
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>>742119081
just a masculine name since they're non binary
seth just doesn't work that well in japanese
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>>742112771
>Everyone replying to this hating on Blue

Blue was the Straight Man (heh) to every other flower's stupid bullshit, someone needed to balance it out. If anything my least favorite flower was Yellow because the schtick of him being extremely stupid and gullible got old fast.
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>>742119123
Up your ASS
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>>742118879
Hate how most of this shit is just fandom shoutout. Unironically only Blue&Susie was lore related
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>>742119123
i love these horror depictions of them seemingly getting their files corrupted
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>>742118838
FUCKING
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>>742117091
>>742111784
wait... what?
>Onions wasn't in the lake in chapter five
oh god
wait how do we know monster kid and snowy are missing?
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>>742119123
Where it all began.
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>>742119046
I mean the first one is like an 80% certainty
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>>742111943
Did you like Alphyne? Because Deltarune has even more of it.
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>>742119123
You won’t. She’s gone bro
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>>742117527
>Probably not Rudy since he wouldn't bisect Flowery. He'd know his value to Gorey.
I beg to differ, Flowery looks like a healthy, perfect version of Rudy and he probably loathes that image of him. Plus he had no choice, Flowery locked him in combat.
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>>742119081
Illusion of Gaia reference.
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>>742112771
>Wait, don't! Wait...DON'T!
>The blatantly rushed Toriel Damage Control
>GLUE!
>OHHHHHH KRIS....THE INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED SO LONG AGO......
>The world's slaughter begins underwater
>I am infinitely more invested in Noelle and Ralsei than I have ever been before
>Noelle's rotting fucking timelooping corpse
>2>5>4>3>1
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>>742119142
>Kris deserves better.
Kris deserves far worse. If the game doesn’t end with Kris coming downstairs to sans in his fuzzy slippers making him pancakes and saying “morning champ” I’m refunding
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>>742118879
It's a clever thing to pick on the fandom for because it integrates into Ralsei's arc perfectly. Ralsei is becoming his own person with his own likes and dislikes. He doesn't want to wear the hat. The fandom wants him to wear the hat because they think it looks better aesthetically, ignoring Ralsei's thoughts on the matter. If we were in Chapter 2 and given the opportunity, maybe Ralsei would have relented and let you force the hat onto him. But he's grown out of being a people pleaser now and the disregard for his own feelings on his appearance annoys him.
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>>742118503
but she also has a cute tiny theythem pecker
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>>742119072
What was with Susie becoming his best buddy and acting girly? Chapter 1 Susie would just beat the shit out of him and also she WOULD eat that giant bread
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>>742119198
Bro onions disappeared in chapter 4. He talked about a mysterious song in the lake, went to check it out, and stopped appearing.
Now the takoyaki stand in the festival is actually selling fried onion balls...
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>>742118283
This time for sure
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Why is there symbolism of water everywhere in Deltarune?
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>>742119146
No they have weird fetishes they like over sex to the point they don't care about her or gay or whatever outside some leans.
Like yeah im supposed to openly say i want to be inflated big and round and that's why I don't feel attraction to you like think how stupid that'd sound
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>>742119142
>Kris deserves better.
True
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>>742119165
>Blue was the Straight Man (heh) to every other flower's stupid bullshit, someone needed to balance it out.
Yes, let make a DEI ethic subversion character with no Flaw that is more perfect than Flowey who also has his own face dialogue. This just reek guest writer's pet and using DEI to shield any criticism if you try to say shit outside this board.
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>>742119198
>Onions wasn't in the lake in chapter five
he wasn't in the lake in chapter 4 either, the gaster follower was there instead
>wait how do we know monster kid and snowy are missing?
they have appeared in every chapter so far and are seemingly missing from the festival that everyone attends
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>>742119198
anon... the goner bird was serving ocopus balls at the festival that taste like raw onion (susie dialogue) next to 2 other gaster goners who talked about undertale shit like gold and fun values
they cooked his ass and fed him to everyone for hearing something at the lake

and neither monster kid nor snowy are seen at the festival (they were hanging out at the shelter before)
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>>742119142
He killed Dess. This is all deserved
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>>742119198
They didnt show up at the festival
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Does anyone else feel like Deltarune's become far too referential and filled with in jokes? Chapter 1 was very self contained with the only overt reference I remember being the Smash Bros reference which they called by a fake name, but with every upcoming chapter you get more and more direct references to other stuff and the fandom. In Chapter 2 you have stuff like Spamton directly talking about Minecraft, or rather "Minecrap", or Napstablook playing the "chill lo-fi beats to relax to" reference playlist.
But now here in Chapter 5 you have direct Touhou references, you have another reference to quicksand Sakuya even though we already got that in Chapter 3, you have Ralsei plush with a literal jpg of the real plush which we also might've gotten before I forget, and more that I'm forgetting.
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>>742112771
>Human Flowers
>Shipping
>Aqua
>Blue
>Flower Man
>Any of the ambience songs
>I have liked the human flowers more
>Probably right in the middle for me
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God I was a Mewmewfag prior to ch5 and now I’ve been vindicated with two flavors that can be mixed together
I’ve wonned
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>>742111584
Alright guys Deltarune is solved. What do we do now?
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>>742119295
Chapter 1 Susie would trash Chapter 5 Susie.
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>>742119301
NEETspin
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How did we go from "Noelle wants to be with Kris more than she care about Dess&Asriel" to "Kris don't ruin my date with Susie"? Somehow Dess dying cucked both Asriel and Kris
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You think Noelle would like this chapter?
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>>742119357
>He killed Dess.
>He doesn't know
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>>742119198
M.K. and Snowy expressed a lot of curiosity about the shelter. They are now somehow absent during the big Festival practically every character appears in.
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>>742112896
They're human to be Undertale references. That's it.
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Kris is a certified freak
https://youtu.be/9xR838USjAM?si=vpsjO5thHin5G5pM
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>>742118879
He's not, Toby is dead. He died some time ago one way or another, this is the teams attempt at replicating his humor and writing now that they're running out of notes for future chapters. Think about it, people have been clowning on him for hatless Ralsei since ch2, but he decides to seethe about it now? After most people stopped caring and mentioning it. It's why there is such a stark difference between ch1-4 and ch5 in terms of writing quality
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>>742119295
i'm surprised not many people have been bringing that up actually, sure it's been mentioned that flowery is probably one of the few people who've outright told her the truth but putting on the reimu ribbon for him seemed kinda... off
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>>742119390
Don't mock me!
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crazy how nothing crazy happened at the lake
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>>742119290
nah
piss off
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>>742118025
Don't really care what ecelebs do but I think it is pretty obvious that Suselle is purposely shown to not work without something always pushing them. The strength test was the most obvious metaphor for it but this chapter can't stop alluding to that theme with Flowery's delusions, Ralsei's jealousy, Asgore realizing he can't accept unwanted feelings, Susie remodeling the town and so on.
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>>742113096
Fun-size shortstack sex swing Alphys.
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>>742119361
>In Ch 6 at school everyone refers to them as monster kid
>You can't question it
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Post kino unrequited love kino
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>>742119434
Sure. She's the kind that play the Weird Route anyway.
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Straight Kerdly won.
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>>742119415
She has a job, anon
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>>742113914
Vessel-chan who will be impregnated by them
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>>742118675
What is this gay shit?
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Its Noelle. Hope is crossed in her heart, she has no hope anymore, since nothing ever changes.
Susie is the last girl, if you do the Aqua and Kris dialog in the cafe, the last choice you make is making Kris look like Ralsei or Susie, and when you choose Susie Kris becomes a purple ACT button, like the one in the prophecy.
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>>742119434
She would be upset about weird route
Her autistic ass would want for it to be as long as regular route at least
But she would be excited about aborted weird route
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>>742119497
>Post kino unrequited love kino
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https://youtu.be/y61hYZSOwvU?si=l5z3s6r2LDMM0vb2&t=75

Thoughts on human Dess?
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Why didn't we just seize Mew Mew's body for ourselves? Seems much more useful than fucking Kris who can't do shit
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>>742119272
You are literally not getting the message behind fight with Pink. You suppose to get along with Kris as you share this body
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is he the GDF's strongest soldier
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>>742119038
Honestly, its ranking is helped out by its length is being short. If it had went on as long as chapter 3, I'd rate it lower. It's battles are simple (With the exception of Jevil) it has to set everything up, it doesn't have a weird route (Though neither does a lot of chapters really, which is a whole other discussion), but it doesn't overstay it's welcome. Chapter 3 on the other hand is a massive fucking slog, with it going on way too long. Also the music is mostly whatever with the exception of SWORD and Black Knife, the fights aren't really interesting (With the exception of the mantle and the Knight), and its weird route is basically nothing.
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What was the deal with the room with the Ralsei vines to the left of where you drop down to the pink door? Could you actually get up there with really precise timing? I ended up ignoring it since I figured it would tie into the weird route, but that obviously didn't happen.
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>>742119541
His face should be covered in markings from the table
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>>742118747
Palworld won
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>>742112896
The Prophecy requires a human, so they need to become human. Humans might also be the only ones capable of closing fountains, I'm not too sure about that part though. I think that's the gist of it.
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>>742118675
persona 4 wishes it could be this good
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>I'm sorry SOUL for fighting you at every turn, I thought I could fix things
>but the knight is a raped me and a gigaschizo mindbroken Noelle
>Susie is cucking me out of non-mindbroken Noelle
>I'm meant to be the main character but the timeline is raped to be Susie's story
>I can't even get Catti who was probably my girlfriend in the first timeline nor Aqua because she's a fucking flower and I'm too dumb to solve the flower problem
>please SOUL please just help me out bro please please please I'm begging you please just fucking do something
>Sans, just doing fuck all this time around and just chilling, happy he's on the winning side with Gaster, feels a disturbance in the force
>the soul is finally in control
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>>742119368
The jpg Ralsei plush started in ch3, Tenna asks you what it costs for one of the quiz questions and he had an act to transform into it for crowd appeal during the fight with Tenna later. It also shows up in the quicksand/drowning moment and appears fallen over if you fail to push the Ralsei-box.
I'm surprised you forgot.
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>>742119523
Ch 5 weird route lacking gameplay is insane
Ch 2 weird route had gameplay
Ch 4 kinda had some form of it
But like ch 2 is the only weird route chapter with gameplay instead of interactive cutscenes for some reason
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>>742117724
Dess’ friendship with Asriel and later Noelle’s friendship with kris was the only way she could have gotten closer to Kris without stirring any suspicion
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>>742119497
Yeah post more cuck kino
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>>742117992
>yfw Goner Kid appear next chapter
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>>742119554
When I said I want to be inside of Mew Mew, I didn't mean it like that
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>>742119589
That's because it was in a Japanese court, in a US court litigation would've taken 6 years minimum
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>>742119609
>>I can't even get Catti who was probably my girlfriend in the first timeline
huh
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>>742118424
I don't have the image but there's those squares that shows icons representing the bosses up to Flowery, but there's another path open before Queen that leads to a knife which isn't connected to the main path. So something between Chapter 1 and 2 presumably lets you derail the plot and skip all the main path bosses. It can't be Weird Route because you still fight bosses on the main path. In the Sword game, you are obstructed by a blue bird that you need to freeze to continue the "forbidden path". Berdly is the obvious fit, but there is another obstructive blue bird in the library with you, blocking you from reaching certain info. Which then later blocks you from seeing Onionsan and serves suspicious food at the festival. I'm suspecting you're meant to do something after Chapter 1 to tamper with the computer room (with some way to get the annoying dog out of it) in a way which derails Chapter 2. That lures the blue bird into Cyber World to investigate why things aren't happening like they are supposed to, giving you the opportunity to snowgrave it and get access to things you aren't supposed to without it being in the way
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>>742119541
>/v/ went from hating Kris and loving Susie to loving Kris and hating Susie overnight
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>>742117795
tits too small
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>>742119498
She's the kind that would do it on accident and think that was how the game was supposed to be
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>>742119547
You’d think the town would bring up another human living there at some point
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>>742119282
Something tells me that letting Ralsei to have this much free will won't result in anything good for the world.
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>>742119434
…why am I thinking this?
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>>742119308
Toby's dream ended with him wetting his bed
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>>742119434
Imagine snowgraving the flowers. She would become so strong.
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>>742119690
A small shift of perspective is all we needed.
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So are we getting two weird routes?
Abandoned 5 -> weird route chapter 6 which might continue or not
Committed 5 -> 7 side b
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>>742119554
I just want to go on adventures together with MewMew while Susie and Noelle go their own way into a trainwreck that every lesbian couple ends up at.
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The aesthetic
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Suselle
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Aqua
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Tropical Starwalker is Pissing me off.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Petal dance zunpets
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Ralsei stocks tentatively up but a trans story would make my eyes roll so far into the back of my head that I could see out of my asshole.
Susie and Noelle are getting really annoying. Yurifags always make relationships based purely on aesthetics and forget things like making them feel compatible or fun to watch.
I'm glad that this was something of a redemption and lesson learned for Asgore after the previous humiliation rituals.

I think that largely, the places where the game fails narratively are where wokeness boxes it into a predictable course, but the efforts to be unpredictable regardless of that are leagues ahead of similar media.
>Who is the Knight?
Rudy, because it makes his fight with Flowery raw unfiltered kino, with Flowery being Asgore's perception of Rudy.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
5 > 2 > 4 > 1 > 3
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>>742119572
I honestly think Striped Bird is cute
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>>742119665
There's notes in one of their rooms talking about their relationship + Catti calls Susie the invader. I was partially influenced by some theory that made sense to me a couple days ago
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>Look, Kris! I was able to bring Flowery to Castle Town and is good as new! Say hi!
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>>742119690
Hating kris was because people liked ralsei and Susie so working for the knight and against them was a no no
But things changed
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Kris just find my vessel and we can both get laid I swear
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>>742119420
Some heavy shit definitely happened or it could be prophecy related and Kris intentionally distanced himself from Noelle to protect her leading her to obsess over purple dinosaur
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>>742119617
I had a feeling it showed up, but I really don't remember it showing up that much. Kinda weird that quicksand Sakuya and the Ralsei plush were both re-referenced in Chapter 5 after showing up in Chapter 3, but you can't even tie this into a theory so I'm chalking it up to laziness
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>>742119715
that's true but the beauty and the beast line is really too intentional to be random
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>>742117343
Yes but that's because the narrator is number 1 in general.
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>>742119443
did a colorblind person draw this
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>>742118809
alphys cheaped out and only bought the sexdoll model with a vaginal canal but not an anal one
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>>742119690
Susie’s not even the villain here, Kris is. It’s just that he’s our only vehicle to interact with so of course we feel bad even if he’s been manipulating everyone day 1
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>>742119767
Yeah I know where this is going
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>>742119619
>Ch 5 weird route lacking gameplay is insane
you are losing more and more control of the game the further you do the weird route, so much so that you are skipping an entire chapter now and have to wait for chapter 7
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>>742119434
If she were in the dark world yeah she'd have fun outside of the Asgore stuff which she'd treat with proper seriousness in the moment before going back to being Susie obsessed when the dumb romance shit pops up form Blue
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>>742118236
I wonder if Kris actually fell into the Dark World with Dess back then. I always felt like the tree had significance to his trauma, but he could draw the tree so clearly in the therapy section and the egg tells me that that was probably not the case and he was the reason he even got out to begin with.
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>>742119497
>kino
It's not
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Weird route lake scene.
All five minutes of it.
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Everything else in the game.
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Weird Route Noelle I guess.
Not a very high high though.
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
The Blue flower.
Technically, I hate Normal route Noelle and Susie whenever they are together more.
But they aren't always together.
The dancer faggot though, that's a pure and unflinching distain that holds steady no matter the situation.
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
None. I didn't really like any of them.
Actually I think I just straight up turned the sound off halfway through the chapter due to annoyance.
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Asgore was impotent. No surprises there given Toby's the writer.
Susie and Noelle become unbearably brain damaged whenever they are near each other.
Susie and Ralsei stopped me from using violence to finish the boss fight.
In fact, that was a reoccurring issue through the entire game. If you're going to take FIGHT off the table as a resolution option why even bother displaying it?
Nobody else really matters.
>Who is the Knight?
Don't know.
Don't care.
Hope I get to fight it again soon.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
Dead last.
By multiple magnitudes.
2>4>3>1>>>>5
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>>742119585
Yeah, you could get a dogdollar and a picture of Flowery in a bath.
Not that difficult, just act and jump at the same time.
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>>742119368
both undertale and deltarune is full of referential stuff, most of the stuff you either just don't know or don't care, it's about the same as it's always been
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>>742119847
Yeah no way to show loss of control past interactive cutscenes
No way at all
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>>742119451
ewwwwww. Toby has no spine
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>>742118881
Egg in wingdings is the movement of the knight chess piece. That's the connection.

Egg goes to Gaster goes to Knight goes to Egg
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>>742119670
That’s a really interesting idea I like it a lot. My biggest fear for this game is Toby will bitch out and just make it so the golden route is like Undertale where it’s just “recruit all, do all the good things”
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>>742119773
>There's notes in one of their rooms talking about their relationship
You mean the occult shit?
>Susie the Invader
I thought that was just talking about Susie getting in on Noelle.
Anyway, the main reason why I said huh because it's almost textbook that the og to was supposed to have Kris and Noelle get together(according to the Shadow Crystals).
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>>742119841
I just think he's neat
>>742119854
He's vagueposting
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>>742118236
He won't be coming back. But with any luck his actions means he set something in motion that will truly save someone.
After all. He said he never forgets the promise that he said he'd help.
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>>742119619
2 has gameplay because it's required to start the route, but the route being automatic along the one path after that until now means there's no need for anything too intensive
And just having effectively two entire separate mirror versions of each chapter where each route is just a linear adventure with none of the weird mystery requirement shit would be a ton of extra work for a result that would be less impactful than chapter 2
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>>742118503
SEX
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>>742119867
It is indeed very inspired by NTR tropes.
But, I can’t deny it is kino to have Kris go through such pain and grief. I hope Kris snaps in Chapter 6.
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>>742119786
I feel like aside from the Festival itself and maybe Asgore getting kidnapped, nothing about ch5 needed to happen after ch4 or even ch3. 5 and 3 would fit better right next to each other.
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Who's dream is this? Kris'? Asgore's?
Field of Hopes and Dreams is obviously from Kris, as with a few of Flowery's mannerisms, but the rest was extracted from Asgore.
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>>742119170
Yurislop ain't "lore".
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>>742119839
>Kris is
That's just your theory. We don't know shit. Kris and the Knight might be working against the prophecy.
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>>742116554
except bread
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>>742119854
Of all the times this meme was made prior to chapter 5, I did not expect this nigga to be the one.
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>>742118359
Fake smile, simply a Noelle doing Noelle things
>>742118435
Real smile
Symbol of euphoria, joy, happiness, excitement
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>>742119913
the point is you are not suppose to fall into either extremes, you shouldn't be JUST doing the normal route and you shouldn't JUST be doing the weird route. you need balance
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>>742119368
the ralsei plush was also a chapter 3 thing, but it definitely seems to be getting worse with the self-referentials though
i mean that whole thing with ralsei seething over the hat coming up several times, a million on-the-nose references to undertale with shit like OMEGA moves and OMEGA FLOWERY when i'm pretty sure toby only canonized that name in the 10th anni stream, NTR references up the wazoo since toby knew how people felt about suselle, practically everything he's done with the mikes since 3+4... the list goes on
i do worry that by the time we're done, half the characters are just gonna be making references to the community
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>>742119839
Kris isn't manipulating anyone
"You" are
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>>742119451
seeing the fluff on susie's has me think toby's really trying to drill in how terrible living in a dark world is
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>>742119081
It's an Illusion of Gaia reference.

The fact it is specifically Seth/Moris just reinforces that it is THIS character being referenced.
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>>742118876
>>742112771
Also realized I forgot to rank the secret/extra bosses which all the best part of each chapter

>Secret/Extra Bosses
2>1>3>5>4

I think people understand why Spamton is good, Jevil is really fun and his music is great (Plus he set up the schizo stuff), The knight is a fun challenging fight with great music though it doesn't really have a character(yet), Mew Mew is mostly fun, but not really challenging and wasn't really what I wanted writing wise(I was hoping for another schizo boss), and I honestly think Gerson's fight sucks. His music is mediocre, his fight is easy, and also he's much more straightforward as a character, with him being the wise mentor figure, which honestly doesn't do much for me.
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>>742119497
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>>742119913
>Man what the fuck my KINOpilled FREEDOM alternate route in this GAME ABOUT DEFYING A PROPHECY is having me lose more and more control to one of the NPCs?
>How the fuck could this have happened?
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why do we feel bad for Kris? little nigga was sneaking behind everyone's backs and working with the roaring knight. let them suffer a bit
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>>742120042
Based knower.
The ARG confirmed Noelle breaking out of bounds was the first time she ever actually smiled in her entire life. Noelle in Side A is just following the games script, aka “doing Noelle things”.
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>>742120106
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>>742119054
What if it's just a computer mouse cursor? What would you do if you saw that behind a tree?
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>>742119457
Notice how he doesn't appear anywhere in the chapter credits beside the "by Toby Fox" subtitle. It's fully delegated now.
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>>742119368
Undertale was also full of references. The real problem is that a lot of the references in Deltarune are to contemporary memes and him responding to fans' reactions to previous chapters. It makes it way less timeless than UT.
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
Platformer mode is pretty cool
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Lack of lore progression, it doesn't even feel like a continuation of chapter 4
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Flowery, Aqua or Mew Mew. Haven't decided
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
I don't know
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
I liked Cutie Mew Mew Magic
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I guess the opinion on Susie is now more negative
>Who is the Knight?
I bet it's not even a character that we know of at this point
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 1
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>>742119497
We should had get the hint he was in love, there were so many moments
>wondering about purple dino from How draw your dragon
>wondering if Susie recognise him if he changes shampoo
>wanting for Susie to push him into the locker if you interact with that locker from chapter 1 when you go on the festival
>Unable to pick "suselle" option meaning "wanting to be carried" is his only thought
>after interacting with her plushie, Ralsei smooches her face like they did the plushie and Susie implies Kris wanted it too
We were so wrong about our bro being just a fag
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>>742119902
There's subtle references and then there's in your face stuff. Stuff like the reference to the Final Fantasy play was fine in Undertale, that stands on its own. But directly referring to Minecraft or having a literal jpg of real merch is on a totally different level, don't act like Undertale had something like that.
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>>742120072
I think green just being a reference to those poorly done animations distracted me from her character
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>>742112771
>>Favorite things about Chapter 5
MewMew fight, Aqua design, Japanese aesthetics, feather mechanics

>>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Suselle dynamics

>>Favorite Chapter 5 character
MewMew

>>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue

>>Favorite Chapter 5 song
MewMew battle theme

>>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie completely ruined
Weird Noelle is peak video game yandere
Aborted Noelle can be super interesting if it's a separate route
Normal Noelle is same as always
Kris is even more of a faggot

>>Who is the Knight?
Dess or whatever remained of her after being consumed by dark worlds

>>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
5 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 1
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>>742119547
Actually possible as humans can have genders now
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>>742120129
>>742119541
>>742119867
>Noelle and Susie talked like that for hours
>Kris was forced to fake sleep through it
I wonder why they even keep him around.
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Every time I seal a fountain in Deltarune I always chant "don't forget, I'm with you in the daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaark"
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>>742120158
maybe it's for the greater good
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>>742120106
If toby left it in the files, it's not cut
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>>742119330
Literal magical negro.
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>>742120072
>toby only canonized that name in the 10th anni stream
Wait that IS the canon name after all? I heard so many people tell me "no, it's Photoshop Flowey, look at da credits!" back in the day. (The credits have "Photoshop" and "Flowey fight" on separate lines.)
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>>742120107
has toby ever had an original thought
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Don't be like Toby and destroy your own story because of your fetish. It'll save ya the embarrassment later. Fucking moron.
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>>742111584
I only have this to say to the person who made this "theory";
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Because it's insanely dumb. Kris already knows who the knight is, while we do not; something that would be a impossibility if a time loop was the case, as the Kris's memory would be reset and, to our knowledge, if the time loop scenario was the case, this would be the start of it. Also we know the knight's helm is separate (and removable) from the knight's true body and Kris knows the face of the knight underneath it. Also, to put more of a dent in that hypothesis, one of the knight's attack mentions golden STARS, not a golden star; it is plural, not singular, and therefore, has no parallels to the sun. Also, how exactly would the knight and Kris be coordinating with each other if they didn't previously know each other? Where would the Knight get another working cell phone from without being seen? Also, considering Noelle and Kris would likely be undead in this hypothesis's case, wouldn't the knight no longer be a Lightner, despite the fact that it would have to be a Lightner in order to open the Chapter 1, 2, 4 and 5 dark fountains?
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>>742120039
Anyone who thinks that Kris and Noelle just drowned themselves is retarded. They clearly ended up somewhere.
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>>742120194
god i love these fanarts fueled by teenage memories of being a third wheel
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>>742120267
Gerson approved of toby writing that because he was sincerely writing about his fetish
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>>742119497
Why does Susie think he is popular with girls and kissing when she knows hes an outcast?
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>>742119547
It was never a thing.
In chapter 4, you find shoes fitted for hooves in her room.
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So why was Kris stuck to the beach table in the aborted weird route?
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>>742120129
ive been in this kind of situation, eventually you just become invisible
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>>742120267
I'm making a gigantic comic that heavily features a fetish that I don't even have.
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>>742120259
no
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So was the second gaster follower arranged to create car traffic in chapter 2 so we can't go to the hospital and see that Rudy isn't there
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>>742120267
>destroy
this too is a cope
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>>742119095
But what if Kris keeps her doll sized?
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>>742120106
you can really feel toby struggling to find the right balance between writing noelle as horny as fuck and just being hungry for something more in life, because you can't tell me that last line isn't meant to read like she's going in for a kiss/whisper (AGAIN) and not just interrogating him
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>>742115352
I count 11 999s in that image alone, for a total of 10989, almost double the Roaring Fraud's damage on Tenna with a SNEAK ATTACK
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>>742120278
>there is no freedom
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>>742119541
this is some top NTR kino, Hussy taught Toby well
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>>742120332
Susie assume his behavior is very attractive.
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>>742120349
lol
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
The gameplay, battle has never been better aside from the Knight fight.

>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Light World segments on Normal Route

>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Flowery

>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Blue. Being is a zesty nigga is whatever but he destroys every moment he's in with hypocrisy and ruins the moment between Kris and Asgore

>Favorite Chapter 5 song
Flower Man

>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Dino stocks have crumbled due to either retcons or bad writing, Kris and Noelle are only getting better. I didn't like Ralsei that much but I get why he's being more of a cunt. NormalNPC is doing a lot of work to keep the light world interesting.

>Who is the Knight?
Broken dreams or a human/monster Amalgamate

>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
3 > 4 > 5 > 2 > 1
I do think 1 has a feeling none of the other chapters do, but it does not have any actual gameplay outside of Jevil
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>Literally see a dark world made by Kris and the Knight maintain the same color palette in this very chapter in the same palce
>All of the Knight's DWs and Kris's DWs have the same palette
>Only DWs not made by either to our knowledge was Susie's which was notable different
Bros, I'm getting convinced
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>>742120129
Hey it wasn't a wooden table it's one of those rubber covered metal ones
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>>742120267
>Don't be like Toby and destroy your own story because of your fetish
The NTR fetish has warped his mind
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>>742120341
Collapsed after struggling out of the lake?
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I'm wondering what's the ultimate endgame for our summoning to this world. While Kris seems to be aware of cutscene jutsu and uses it to rip (You) out of their chest to do some fuckery, and Ralsei knows about (You)r power over this world and keeps your attention away from certain things, I don't think that anyone other than the Big G himself knows of (You)r ability to walk back and alter the flow of time. If they did, why would they try to keep vagueposting? Why would they bother fighting at all, knowing that if something happens that (You) don't like, (You) can go back in time and force a different outcome?
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Bite the pillow!!! (Mew!)
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So what's up with the ThornRing equip sound being played during Asgore's vague exposition?
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>>742120256
it was photoshop flowey originally i'm pretty sure, but after the fandom called it omega flowey enough times i guess toby decided to run with it
even ignoring that stream the amount of times the flowers say omega in Ch5 kinda makes it clear that's what it is now
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>>742119932
what? the bully character is apologizing to her first friend for literally assaulting him, how is this having no spine, they are literally friends now
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>>742120106
>>742120170
Susie ruining everything for the 100th time in the same chapter.
At this point she is literally worse menace to You than Kris himself.
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>>742120259
has there ever been a dino x doe pair in media before?
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>>742120349
That's cool. You could be like a superhero now
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>>742120278
kek, reminds me of that one Kengan shitpost
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>>742119260
>The blatantly rushed Toriel Damage Control
Toby really just needs to stick to his guns, and not bend over backwards to try and explain to the audience that wasn't what he was going for. He's done it in every chapter past 1, and it always sticks out(Like with the controllers). Toriel's explanation being the most egregious example, with her pretty blatantly being Toby's mouthpiece to try and smooth people's view of what she did over.
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>>742120476
He equipped the VagRing (Vague Ring)
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>>742120259
Nobody has. Toby is just in more control of it.
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>tfw Krusie is literally NarutoxSasuke
>But Suselle is NarutoxHinata is also forced and implied to wrong
Is Toby not a fan of NaruHina?
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>>742118598
I'd like to imagine this scene is a parallel to something that will happen in the future. Someone fulfilled their promise, and now they want something Kris have, like their soul
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>The escapist distraction from all the actual shit happening in the chapter was so effective that everyone's going to be stuck crying about actual bait NTR for the next two years
Incredible
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>>742120267
when you grow up you'll realize that every artist puts their fetishes into their works
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>>742120530
But naruto and sasuke have more chemistry though
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>>742120482
surprised toby didn't canonize it as alpha flowey or sigma flowey out of rejection
>battat motif
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>>742120476
Broken.
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me otr
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What if mew mew used her magic to make herself into a giantess.
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>>742120476
I'm pretty sure it's meant to represent that incident... On that day. Everything changed. Oooh.
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>>742120541
>bait NTR for the next two years
Chapter 6 is coming early 2027 trust.
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>>742119620
Did she really say that? That would be the funny way of repreenting the Player as Mad Dummy
>we are the 4chan dummies and we are mad all the time
really makes you think
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>kris made a ‘promise’ with the knight, also promised to protect Noelle in ch4
>knight and Kris have similar animations
>knight and Kris have identical dark worlds unlike Susie
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>>742120476
asset reuse
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>>742120541
>literal murders and kidnappings happening in hometown by skin walkers
lmfao chapter 6 is going to be crazy
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>>742118273
Yeah aborting in chapter 5 seems far too late
Noelle already went insane and if Susie drags her to the dark world she'll have the thorn ring and will 100% know it was not a dream
There's no way that can just be handwaved away
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>>742120530
This means Toby likes it and it's the canon ship, though.
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>>742120476
>Asriel thorned Dess
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>>742120468
Kris summoned us so he’d stop being himself. Real Kris couldn’t do the stuff we make him do.
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>>742120541
It's annoying everybody latches onto the dumb sex fetish bullshit and not the more interesting parts of the actual story
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>>742120602
Current projections say that the Knight is chapter 7B Kris + Noelle
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I liked the one slope in the cliffs and the Floradinn.
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
2D gameplay, flowers, music, final boss
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
short festival
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Ralsei
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Orange, she just has the least entertaining/compelling dynamic with her partner
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
FLOWER MAN, FLOWER MAN
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
I like Ralsei much more now that he's becoming more assertive. It's fun and great to see him get genuinely angry and even rudely snarky
>Who is the Knight?
Carol
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
>4>3>5>2>1
When I think about what each chapter would be like on the replay, chapter 5 would almost undoubtedly be the most fun to actually play. Otherwise when I think about them as a whole though, 5 would sit in the middle, 4 and 3 are massively elevated by their finales and 3's sword route.
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>Kris knight has been revived
that old monster
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>>742120476
I could explain it to you, but well... you know...
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>>742120482
>it was photoshop Flowey originally but fans were just... persistently wrong... and for the first time in his entire career Toby chose to go with the way the fans were wrong instead of try to correct them
Sounds fake, but ok.
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>>742120106
I don't think this is cut. There must be a way to do this, perhaps the aborted Weird route in Chapter 2?
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>>742120590
I'm not convinced he'll release it standalone
We were never even supposed to get 5 like this, and that's after the other concessions he made to avoid a decade long wait
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>>742111918
Who cares if it's satisfying? It being satisfying for the audience is the worst reason to do something
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When is Toby dropping a newsletter? I’d like to know what’s next for the tale of our HEROES (and Susie)
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>>742119554
It's too weak to flirting
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>>742120530
>SasukexHinata is canon in the alt route
what did tobert mean by this
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>>742113761
This art is from before ch 5 came out
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you can shake kris many of the times he tries to take out the soul or put it back in
i like this detail
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>>742120660
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
weird route
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
every single suselle scene
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
flowery
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
blue
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
might be violet tactics, it's really catchy, mew mew's battle theme was also really good though
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
susie was my favourite character but she was insufferable this chapter, i get it's probably the point though with her becoming more deluded with escapism
>Who is the Knight?
i'm leaning towards the kris + noelle WR amalgamate theory, but i think rudy is equally as likely, i'd be happy with either those or it being some "splinter" off dess
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
2 > 4 > 3 > 1 > 5
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>>742120718
3 should be above 4 purely because of the sword route, the gameplay story telling is a lot more engaging than just lore dumping the entire chapter
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>>742120468
Calm down bro it's a game created mainly for children
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>>742119867
Susie such a bitch, why not let Kris go with Berdly while they fuck in private?? Then she also takes time to come along cockblocking Kris
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>>742120483
>they are literally friends now
lol
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>>742120740
nah
There was a datamined steam page saying chapter 6 was probably coming 2027
I don't think toby would hold back chapters now, you have bought the product, it would be unfair of you to not get what you paid for just because the dev is autistic.
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>Kris at the end of Chapter 7
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>>742120785
what?
elaborate
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Dumb sand-eating sexdoll catwife
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>>742120747
>It's too weak to flirting
Have you not read this thread?
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>>742120613
That I feel like will still be subtext or lightly referenced in the background until 7
6 will be entirely Holiday family focused, going all in on Dess/Rudy/Carol stuff, doesn't seem like the kind of thing you'd want attention taken away from too heavily
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>>742120802
>uma delicia
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>>742120824
ok well they are friends in the beginning of the chapter which is where this clip happens, obviously by the end of it the relationship is strained
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>>742120576
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>>742120015
Susie acting weird obsessed with heart beats instead of actual Noelle and her personality
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>>742120836
He made us wait for 3+4
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>>742120541
>actual bait NTR
Cope
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>>742120397
you're brown
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>>742112201
Everyone here except Sans and the soul is just here to fuck Asgore though
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>>742120853
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>>742120476
Kris was the victim of a Weird Route in the past.
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>>742120660
>more interesting parts of the story
okay vagueposter, I'll bite
go ahead and name 3 (three) things in the story that are more interesting than the existential horror of an otherworldly being controlling you and engaging in allegorical rape of your childhood friend
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>>742120386
Yeah.
Except the damage numbers here are fraudulent.
They are immediately audited and nullified.

Why do you fags keep omitting that fact?
Why are you trying to hype up Flowery of all things.
Dude's a fucking corpse now.
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>>742119664
I don't care legal eagle faggot
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>>742119368
Touhou references are timeless because touhou is always inclining.
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>>742120925
Get your head out of your own ass. Deltarune is an NTR ero-game.
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>>742120790
If I had a nickel for every western made Earthbound-like JRPG with a plot set into motion by a dead sister I’d have way more nickels than is reasonable
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>>742120660
People are so blinded by it that they're not even seeing the red flags present in that character arc alone
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>>742120912
That was before it was a paid product though (1 and 2 were demos)
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>>742120602
The Knight is just mimicking Kris, it doesn't know how to do anything but Mimic
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>>742120812
this was genuinely spiteful on the writing's part, considering ralsei also joins in I don't think its even meant to be seen as a bad thing
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>>742120957
Yeah man that's totally what people are calling it and not just spamming NTR LOL KRIS IS A KEK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>742120847
try in chapter 2 when kris is going to wash his hands, press the arrow keys or rotate your joystick
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>>742119295
i don't think the chapter 1 comparisons are fair since that's when susie was still wearing her "mask" and only started to soften up and show her real side towards the ending, but even compared to how she is in chapters 2 - 4 she acts completely different in the opposite way
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>>742120660
Really says a lot about deltatroon huh? Nobody's talking about the supposedly interesting shit. Just the cuck shit
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I'm still a proponent of Rudy being the Knight, and the armor he's wearing is the cause of his disease. He has all the connections the Knight needs, and the latest chapter goes into that direction imo. The Knight's all sneaky and avoiding combat because Rudy's health is waning
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>>742119767
I'm already sick of seeing this thing
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>>742120530
>Is Toby not a fan of NaruHina?
Toby is a fan of works featuring Hinata and Raikage
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>>742121028
is it spiteful or is it showing that susie has attachment issues with kris
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>>742120613
Man...
You are going to be really damn disappointed.
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>>742121012
It's probably the other way around and Kris is mimicking a role model.
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>>742120259
I honestly appreciate the reference since IoG is one of those Snes games that get slept on most o the time, both Soul Blazer and Terranigma over shadow it.

People are probably sleeping on more parallels then they think in relation to how it relates to Deltarune Like Kriselle knight fags could probably use it as fuel considering Will and Karas nature.
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Requesting this meme but with Maddie wanting to be Mew Mew
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the knight has a higher chance of being nobody and simply a being of pure darkness manifested from dark worlds than it is being rudy at this point
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>>742120997
yeah and I'm only here to laugh at you cucks for playing this shitslop, I hate this game and I always have
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>>742121012
Watch it turn out Kris died during the lake scene and Noelle goes billions must die mode after she realized what she did
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>>742121102
i liked chapter 5 tho
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>>742121093
again I don't think its a conscious writing decision since ralsei is a part of it
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>>742120660
>the more interesting parts of the actual story
you mean the story established in 1-4? this is chapter 5 discussion
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>>742120732
well it was called photoshop flowey in the credits and floweyx in the game files, omega flowey started off as a fan name that slowly ended up being homogenized into merch (the same merch that was gonna have the mysterious man be outright called gaster before it got replaced by gerson, keep in mind) and even the co-designer started calling it that on twitter before toby started saying it in the 10th anni stream
so yeah, i'd say it was 'the first time in his entire career'
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>couldn't even go to the bunker door this chapter
Weak
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Give me all the Maddygore you got dummies.
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>>742115606
I don't remember having a balloon at the end of my ch5 playthrough. Is it typical to have one? Do you always need one?
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>>742121032
>couldn't name any
Suprising absolutely no one.
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>>742121093
>susie has attachment issues with kris
Fuck that noise.
It's true, sure, but the bitch is already stealing everything from the kid. Let him form new relationships if you take the rest.
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I want to be Mew Mew
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>>742120106
Oh shit, this is for the aborted chapter 2 weird route, isn't it?
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Just started the weird route, do I need to keep slaying enemies even when I reach Queen's Castle?
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burps so hard I fart and $$$$ myself
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>>742121050
Yes anon, you've grasped the point of this part of the story
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>>742121228
No.
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>>742119619
Weird is also probably intended to be done AFTER you beat normal and they probably dont wanna be like "oh yeah you have to beat the full game again lol"
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>>742121187
you have to refuse to walk susie home
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>>742115290
I wouldn't wish this on anyone
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>>742121128
so you're saying the knight is a heartless?
heartless theory...
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>>742119330
>Accusing Blue of having no flaws when Green is right there
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Why is Gaster making these motherfuckers run a mafia operation out here. Who the fuck is next to slip up?
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I want to see 2 Mew Mew anons make out
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>>742121214
You copied me, I said this before.
I am the one who wants to be Mew Mew
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>>742121128
It's Dess
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>>742121181
Because Carol was busy investigating it
Because Things have been happening
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>>742121246
I'm starting to get bored of Mew Mew lewds. The appeal is both sharing but with diverging opinions - why is everything just two independant catgirls?
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>>742121184
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>>742121246
GOD I wish that was me
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>>742121093
Possessive like a dragon.
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>>742121265
Okay thank you.
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Post yfw Noelle opens a fountain in ch6 and it looks exactly like Kris and the Knights
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>>742121193
What you brought up sounds like the WR and not the yuri bullshit
But whatever
>what Ralsei's hiding
>Susie losing it in her dark world escapism
>what Kris is even doing in the story at all
All more interesting the NTR bullshit the internet obsesses over cause degenerates only care about sex and whatever stupid trans or gay nonsense they call themselves
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>>742120170
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>>742121172
>it was called photoshop Flowey in the credits
Can you read the reply chains you're jumping into? "Photoshop" and Flowey fight" are on separate lines under Everdraed's credit. It was just called the "Flowey fight". It involved photoshop, but that'd be like calling every appearance of Tenna "Maya Tenna".
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>>742121228
No. In fact, it's likely sparing everyone will produce a better result. In chapter 2, you'll know when it's time to start killing.
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>>742120853
cute
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TOBBYYYYYYYY
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>>742121184
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>>742121093
>I'm going to date someone else and ruin everything we had
>What's that, you're trying to date someone now? No, that isn't allowed!
Might be the most realistic writing of a female that Toby's done
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>>742119393
>What do we do now?
MewMew fangame
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>>742111584
wait what the fuck does flowery mean by
>serving human(s)
kris is the only human in hometown, wouldn't he just mention him by name, it's not like he's ever against acknowledging kris personally
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>>742118359
It's forced
Noelle said so herself
That's not her smile
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>>742121360
>directly calling kris a third wheel
>directly calling kris a dog following after noelle and susie
Jesus Christ, Toby
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Weird route? MORE LIKE ONLY GOOD DURING CHAPTER 2 ROUTE AM I RIGHT?
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>>742121504
meh.
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>>742119368
>you have another reference to quicksand Sakuya even though we already got that in Chapter 3
>you have Ralsei plush with a literal jpg of the real plush which we also might've gotten before
we did and that's what bothered me, the fact that references are already getting reused this soon really rubbed me the wrong way, i don't mind the touhou stuff because that felt obligatory for this chapter, but it definitely felt like there were way too many references in general during this chapter which was something that threw me off about the writing, i don't believe the "ghost writer" cope but i think toby is losing his edge to a degree
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>>742118451
Can she grant me femdom?
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>>742121369
There's just way too much NTR in this chapter; it's impossible to ignore.
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>>742120292
If I were the anon who made the original backrooms post I'd legit kill myself knowing that it became a free money printer that I will never see a cent from.
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>>742120332
Im pretty certain Kris is the "Hot but brooding" type an only and "outcast" due personality but still mired. "Wasted Beauty" if you will.
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>>742121504
Not even remotely, dude.
Could have had more content in Chapter 3 but that's just 3 being the weakest part by far.
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>>742121184
i have another one of these that alludes to transhit if you want it
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>>742121535
it wasn't written by Toby, there are his 10 devs in the credits but not him
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>>742121504
It's only chapter 3 that's not worth it. Rest of the chapters are kino.
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>>742121341
>why is everything just two independant catgirls?
Troon fantasy, most of them style themselves after the girl that they want to fuck, so drawing Mew Mew selfcest helps them live that out. There are yuri selfcest enjoyers that aren't troons, but they're in the minority these days.
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My only pipe dream is that whatever endgame superboss we get comes with an accompanying optional endgame dungeon, maybe even an entirely separate dark world from the main chapter 7 setting(s) . Don't even care if it's part of some insane secret route shenanigans or just tucked off to the side more normally like the schizobosses are
Toby has been handling the optional superboss trope immaculately, I hope that gets an inclusion too
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>>742121596
again with this cope, toby is and will always be the only writer
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>>742121504
Is this the new tranny narrative? Trying to pretend we have snowgrave route now?
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>>742120482
>why doesnt toby use the copyrighted product name for his character I dont get it
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>>742121546
The backrooms movie "property" will print money for a few more years at best. The director isn't going to be given another shot at making a big movie for the same reason the devs behind Sonic Mania didn't get to keep making Sonic games. The industry powers let them do their thing because they figured it'd be a good PR move, now the industry powers are SEETHING that their "perfectly crafted media" was outdone by the PR stunt.
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Is there such a thing as a "hot gamer BOYfriend"? Goddamn DEI writing
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>The SOUL is actively ruining Kris' life by making him associate with Susie who ends up stealing his childhood friend from him
>Instead of being angry at the SOUL, people choose to be angry at Toby for writing a story where the "main character" gets fucked over
Why are you like this?
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>>742119434
She would literally start skipping dialogue until the gameplay started
She would love the weird route but be pissed it wasn't longer
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>>742120660
People only cared about HMOFAslop in these threads.
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>>742121642
Buddy, deltarune officially became deltatroon with this new cuck chapter. And the wr sucked this time. So fucking lame
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>>742121341
Because having sex with a non-consenting person is rape and Deltarune fans don't like rape.
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Repent.

and make sure to check your task manager for Google induced memory leaks.
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>>742121108
Read the text please
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>>742121535
>i don't mind the touhou stuff because that felt obligatory for this chapter
I feel the opposite way, I think this chapter was the way it was so that Toby could have Touhou references. Like, why did we get a Japanese themed level in a fucking flower shop? Because Asgore had a single anime figurine that he didn't even understand?
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>>742120857
Don't know what you are talking about desu
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>>742121690
yea me
and idk what flag you have to trigger to get that line because in my game i got "hot gamer girlfriend" as the line, so i think youre just gayer than me tbqh
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>>742121742
So it is the new narrative.
Hope you picked out your gravestone sock, faggot, because your parents are burying you using your birthname.
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>>742121745
>Deltarune fans don't like rape
Huh?
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>>742121696
Reminder that Kris actively defends Susie outside of your control in Chapter 1. It's all on him in the end.
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I was really hoping when the lesbians were fagging out and Kris was panned off-screen, when it panned back he would just be gone.
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Thoughts on him?
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>>742121504
Every piece of weird route content has been of good quality.
But good god, its just so painfully sparse.
On average, there's like 10 minutes of it scattered through each chapter which themselves range from 3-6 hours in length.
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>>742121360
>this scene was funny for you tuber lets players
>it was a disaster of NTR for Kris
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>>742121504
Nah it was kino in 4 and LVDOKINO in 5
3 was bit disappointing
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>>742121846
Yeah but that's "nuanced" and "serious" and requires "media literacy" which is different than fucking a DID schizo
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>>742121742
Just admit you're a seething Krusietard who couldn't read the writing on the wall instead of trying to bring literally everything else down with you.
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>>742121128
HEY [pissed pussy puppet] BUZZ AROUND THE OFFICE IS YOU CAN DETACH YOUR [noggin] WELL CHECK WHAT YOUR SPESIL [special!!] FRIEND BOY PAL SPAMTON CAN DO WITH HIS [chicken neck] AND A SHINY PAIR OF [state of the art 6.99 pliers] !!
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>>742121885
I can't believe he actually said "no way fag" to the ice cream guy.
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>>742121550
Would monsters really see human features as attractive?
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>>742121830
i think its pure rng
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>>742121885
A bastion of heterosexuality and basedness no matter what option you choose for him. Toby knew that he's the one thing that he absolutely cannot fuck up.
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>>742121969
No I don't like this game. I'm actually happy krusiefags got raped because it creates a lot of dysentery in the ranks
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>>742118265
chapter 3 is way worse nigger
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>>742112771
>Favorite things about Chapter 5
2D platforming segments, shockingly enough. I was surprised how satisfying it feels to play
>Least favorite things about Chapter 5
Not the biggest Suselle fan, feels a bit bland compared to some of the other character dynamics that have a lot more meat to them
>Favorite Chapter 5 character
Pic related
>Least favorite Chapter 5 character
Orange got kinda annoying by the end
>Favorite Chapter 5 song
FLOWER MAAAAAAN FLOWER MAAAAAAN
>How have your opinions on characters changed since Chapter 5
Susie is really walking down the wrong path here, going all-out escapist and letting that cloud her judgement, leaving people like Kris in a bad spot. That final sequence walking her home gave me a bad feeling, I think next chapter their relationship might take a hit.
>Who is the Knight?
Some kind of manifestation of the trauma that happened in the past, not a specific character. Heavily tied to Dess, but not actually Dess.
>Overall ranking of the current 5 chapters
4>3=5>2>1
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>>742121969
Ah, I see my error now. The real narrative was falseflagging to pitch both sides that despise normal chapter 5 against each other.
Refer to >>742121832
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>>742111584
Autism ...
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>>742121891
>Turquoise
>Morris
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How do I get a doe gf to help me glitch out of bounds?
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>>742121360
You know Kris was begging Berdley to save him from this shit and go play vidya or something just for Susie to ruin it again
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>>742121583
Kek still cute thanks
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>>742118265
>anywhere but the very worst
There isn't a single good thing about Chapter 1. On the other hand chapter 5 had some kino moments, secret boss and gameplay.
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>>742118265
5 is good if you aren't illiterate or mad about reddit theories not coming true
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>>742122101
Ask /k/.
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Boop. Say the line Mew.
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>>742121050
>says a lot about the game and not /v/'s mind rotted cope
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>>742121690
only if you like chubby guys
which i do :>
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>>742122006
They are just mirroring Krusie route, i bet Bunny and PizzaPants will make up in chapter 7
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>>742122124
i just liked asgore looking like this
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>>742122161
PUFFY
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>>742122161
MewMew is not a fat ugly bimbo. Take your American preferences somewhere else.
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>>742121360
i fucking love berdly. where's our berdly route, you fucking hack toby?
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>>742122101
Go to a furry convention near the border
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>>742122006
>Thinking Toby's not just going to do the "They had a fight but Burgerpants learned the truth and after coming to terms with it realized that even if it wasn't pizzarina he still loved who he was talking too" thing
Just set him up with Catty or Bratty and set him free from this whole quagmire
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>>742121360
Kris loves being their little cuck
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>>742122183
I'm starting to hate Krusiecucks after this chapter.
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>>742121696
Because the chapter was a distraction, and it worked
The actual several plot points happening in the background, mew mew's many implications for each character's arc, the looming darkness, none of the characters are aware enough to notice and comment on it and so the audience is too
Even shit we'd usually get more teases on like weird gaster and friend shit are shuffled back into the background, don't think about it
It's even somehow an escape from whatever fate lies at the bottom of the lake, creating an entirely new path where Noelle also gets included in denying reality
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>>742122185
Did Asgore know his sex doll was possessed by his neighbour?
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>>742122185
Why is Mad Mew Mew trans but Kris is not?? Pink literally serves as a message to Players about controlling Kris
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>>742121146
>Knight is post-crossing Noelle.
>She is trying to protect KRIS.
>She made Kris Promise to survive.
>She knows Kris still needs a SOUL.
>C2 starts weird route because it is influenced by a Weird Route creation, but it also wants to prevent it (to save Kris) and this is also why it is Noelle focused, because "Noelle" opened it.
>The reason she laughs at Susie is because Susie is incredibly wrong, KNIGHT would be unaffected by the Light World and just as strong due having broken the boundaries, but the "Heroes" would lose their power.
>She jobbed to Flowery because he reminded her of her dad for a bit before getting serious because she is fighting for her (new) Dream of keeping Kris alive.
Hmm, Maybe. Probably not, but maybe.
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>>742121885
I'm glad he didn't fall for the gay shit with how homosexual this chapter was.
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>>742118881
It's evidence for something that hasn't happened yet. It says
>You'll know what it was evidence for when it happens.
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>>742122185
Did Asgore hotglue her figurine ass?
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>>742122276
Is one chapter all it take for you to betray us.
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>>742122306
Mew Mew invokes gender envy, Kris doesn't, what else is there to discuss?
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>>742121987
Honestly considering how wide the array of "monster" designs go i wouldn't see why not.
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>>742122258
I love how Susellefags got BTFO by making Kris a happy cuck in their fantasy, no wonder their ship lost even on Tumblr to Kriselle and Krusie
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>>742122183
>>742122252
Considering how Bratty seems genuinely broken up about how Bunny is furious with her because of all of this I think this route would focus more on Bratty making amends to make Burgerpants smile again, rather than having Burgerpants and Bunny make up.
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>>742122183
Hell I mean I set Burgernigga up with Bratty, so he'll be busy driving into crocodile pussy before that happens.
You know, that is if the Roaring doesn't kill everyone.
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>>742122306
every time someone calls maddy trans i just end up wondering what they thought about undyne who's literally just her but blue (and a fish)
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>>742122161
I LOVE MEWBIES
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>>742121146
>Kris dies
>Noelle has his soul
>A monster with a human's soul
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>>742121273
YOWCH!!
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>>742122305
no maddie is a scared little bitch
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>>742122391
Maybe the ghost was always just a female monster and its just a message about wanting plastic surgery?
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>>742122453
doesn't have thick eyebrows so no one sees her as a man
that's it
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>>742121690
>>742121830


>Not even the literal one-liner jokes are safe from fucking gay shit
This is more condemning than anything else. Tobert knows which one of those 2 lines is funnier and chose to make the joke worse for literal inclusion.
Before you assholes try to get on me I know it's minor I just think it's very damning.
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>>742122413
Uh? What's that Susie? You want to BUILD a ROOM for my childhood friend Noelle? And you want ME to do It? Wait, you want to JOIN her room to YOURS? So you can have MIND-BLOWING LESBIAN SEX every single night? Yikes, Susie, that's...what's that? You want me to WATCH? I NEED to be there every single night so I can Fetch you WATER? I HAVE to sit in the corner like a good KEK eating MOSS while you eat my childhood bestie's deer pussy? Wait, you want me to RECORD It too?? I have to put my DRUNK SLUT MOTHER on silence so I can record you with my shitty Android phone she bought me after buying and iPhone to Asriel??? And I can WATCH them and let my ELDRITCH HORROR FROM THE GREAT BEYOND HEART force me to JERK OFF my dick to them when I'm ALONE in my room after helping the ROARING KNIGHT kidnap my DEADBEAT LOSER DAD?? Susie...I say PROCEED! YABBA DABBA DOO!
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>>742115963
I was wondering about that,
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>>742122506
Go back to undertale and read mettaton's journals
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>>742118265
eh. chapter 5 id argue has a pretty great dark world section, definitely up there with the greats. its only held down by the fact that nothing fucking happened lore wise when people were expecting it to be the climax (man that festival hype amounted to fucking nothing).
to summarize my thoughts, pretty good filler chapter, but thats what sucks about it. its just a filler chapter
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>>742122453
I thought about it the other day and Maddie seems more like a physical disability allegory more than trans
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>>742122452
>Not setting him up with the PAWG cat

Couldn't be me.
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>>742122136
Chapter 5's secret boss was the worst so far.
Even Jevil was better.
The only thing it has going for it is the battle gimmick that it stole from Muffet.
And even then, the battle was dampened by being an autonomy-annihilating gimmick fight.
>Hot take: Every fight that forces the player to ACT to resolve it is a massive, unsatisfying waste time. Why even give the player the option to fight if you're going to disable it for every other fight?
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>people arguing over susies character intended to come across as good or not this chapter
the chapter ends sad as fuck with her living in a delusional fantasy in a fucking janitors closet at school during a weekend btw
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>>742111584
i am
so weirded out
by this
doe rapist
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>>742122536
At least we redemeed Asgore from cuck memes...
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>>742115963
Well, there's also that she's abusing the actual end of the world to make a Grand Romantic Gesture toward Noelle, who is definitely not going to be in the mood by the next time we see her
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>>742122689
maybe it's time for her to come out of the closet.
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>>742122579
>Back in Undertale you have to go out of your way to read the tranny lore
>In Deltarune the tranny stuff is shoved into your face
I'm tired...
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>>742122590
>when people were expecting it to be the climax
anyone thinking this is fucking retarded, toby said it was going to be the last fun adventure, and we still have 2 chapters left, that is easily like 17 more hours of story/gameplay. not only that but chapter 5 still serves a lot of purpose narratively for the characters, and the group has literally never been more fractured because of that. current era retards that are incapable of reading a story unless every single facet of content is purely used as vehicles to drive the plot along should not be allowed to engage in discussion about anything
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>>742118265
>Chapter 5 being anywhere but the very worst in a ranking of the chapters is indicative of a person who has no sense of recency bias.
It's indicative of the "person" not arguing in good faith and instead pushing an agenda.
Negative response to this chapter is almost universal.
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Ok but like, why was the Dark World in Asgore's shop so japanese themed?
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>>742122718
Like father like son
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>>742122649
this post is retarded cause it implies jevil was ever a bad fight, he's still better (and more difficult) than gerson and arguably spamton
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>>742122506
>>742122618
UT ghost are like possesed suits of armor that get all fussy about their forever vessel because once they merge they're in there for good. Is why you can kill Mettaton and Maddy but never Blooky. They're also really shy and insecure niggas all around, Blooky is actually the only one with a life in this timeline which is sad.
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>>742122739
Mew Mew is an optional hidden boss
And also the second hardest one to access, requiring doing a ton of optional content
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>>742122517
Thick eyebrow doesn't mean anything. They should watch more anime.
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>>742122636
>Bratty and Catty get their own theme song
>Nicecream don't
robbed? Or is Nicecream special just like Krusie is more special than Kriselle and Kralsei?
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>>742122841
nicecream guy is hanging himself tomorrow
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>>742122776
You'll know when we get to see the back room.
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>>742122818
Seth going by they/them is mandatory, and the extended conversation about pronouns is very easy to run into. I think it's very different from getting into Mettaton's House
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>>742122452
Chose bunny because I didn't even think you could pick the others and that felt narrativly correct
Sorry burgerpants but your crashout was too funny
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>>742122346
I disliked most Krusiefags here but I'm so tired of all the coping
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>>742121885
surprised and impressed that he rejected the gay pill. I was so sure that Toby was gonna write Nicepants just to please fujos
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I feel like the only person who can see the guillotine hanging over susie's head by the end of this chapter
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>>742121891
>>742121968
These two are great together.
Seth should teach Aqua all kinds of things.



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