What if...Toby backstabs Suselle fans too in Chapter 6?
Suselle is obviously not going to last.However the question remains whenever it was Susie humiliating herself by asking Noelle to come play with her imaginary friends in a school closet while Rudy is literally dying, or maybe toby will come with some huge dramatic twist like Susie/Noelle being kidnapped, tragic accident in city, school black world being destroyed or whatever that will distract Noelle from realizing how pathetic Susie really is and/or how shallow their relationship really is.
>>742113031>whenever it was*whenever it will be
>>742112659I don't know if he could do anything worse. I have some jap artists friends that always draw kriss and noelle and didn't draw or even talk about the chapter this time.
Here's my version>It's sequel to undertale genocide cuckout route>Sans is the knight and his goal is to cuckmaxx you in normal route so much that you suicide irlI mean some of you are getting really close
>>742114250hey dude toby fox here, can you delete this post?
>>742113031I think Susie will try to be delusional until the very end and Noelle will just play along to not upset her. We might go maximum escapism right until shit comes crashing down. If anything, Flowery has in the end proven that hardcore delusion can still carry you even if you're completely powerless. And Susie is the "hero" so who knows how long she'll be able to maintain that.
What if...you faggots fuck off to >>>/vg/ where you belong and stop spamming LE STEALTH GENERALS on /v/?
>>742116001wtf is the point of /v/ if you can't even discuss a game that released less than a week ago on here?no need to answer, I know you'd prefer jeet twitter ragebait.
>>742114250not bad
>>742116001Did this thread stop you from making a better one? In what way did it hurt you?
>>742112659>what if toby does a heckin homophobiaLike that's ever gonna happen
LOL THE DELTACVCK COPES KEEP COMIN
>>742112659Fat chance after backpedaling on Toriel's shitty behavior. He will do it with Susie in ch6 too, Suselle is 100% endgame. Weird route copers need not reply
>>742112659Do you really think known yurifag Toby Fox would do that?
>>742112659>Flag pops if you get the secret Ferris wheel scene with Noelle in normalGuaranteed it will happen, and Kris (you) will get the opportunity to reverse cuck Susie if you played your cards right earlier. We're basically the Jagi to his Shin, bringing up feelings thought lost to motivate him to become Mr. Steal-your-girl on his own initiative. Kris obviously feels... something? for Noelle and as much as she tries to ignore it that something is clearly there on her side as well. It'll probably contribute to the inevitable break-up of the Fun Gang and having to pick a side in chapter 6.
>>742122121maybe?
>>742128027Can't believe this actually happened
>>742112659I feel like Chapter 6 will be the point Susie gets a hard reality check. She'll keep pushing her escapism happy goofy town fun time shit at this worst time when Kris dad is gone and Noelle's dead might be dead/dying. Eventually someone's going to blow up at her and tell her to grow the fuck up.
>>742116001the janny puppyguarding vg likes handing out bans to anyone who didnt like ch 5 so sorry im posting here now
>>742129214I can see it being Ralsei since he's finally getting worked up now>Did you happen to forget we are trying to prevent an actual apocalypse here? We don't have time for this!
>>742112659He's going to shit on every ship by the endThen we'll be left with an eternal hell of pearl clutching over who mathematically had the highest number of perceived romantic interactions.
>>742112659>Toby The Kike Fox declaring a gay pairing noncanonHe would unironically rather die.
>>742122021is that ai?
>>742113031>Suselle is obviously not going to lastIt's not going anywhere eitherIf there is happy ending, there's 100% chance Toby will hook them up again, except "in proper way" this time
>>742129707I don't think so. It'll probably be "an" ending that loops as a failure. If the glass shards are anything to go by it seems the original route was Kriselle and Susie remaining the bully dragon that gets btfo
>>742129652Can't say, i got it from these threads
>>742129707Assuming they both end up alive and well in the end then that is very likely to happen. But that's exclusively normal route, and in that route we know that something tragic is about to happen to either of them via prophecy.
>>742129214Susie was really being aggressively retarded on all fronts this chapter. I never would have thought that I’d be finding even nerd bird more likable.
>>742116001How is this in any way stealthy?
>>742112659How old were you when you realised Ghaster was never going to appear in this game?
>>742130001Berdley's based though and has been 100% right. He also at least was willing to acknowledge his faults in Chapter 2 and step up where it counted.
>>742130115WymHe's been there since the beginning
This thread need some uuu
Are these threads finally ded?
>>742131901>>742127670
>>742112659>The gasterlighting continuesNormalNPC : Joke to mess with youKriselle Knight : Teased but will not be Image Friend : Image FRAUDThe Eggs : Past use dateThe Twisted Sword : One use joke weapon The King : The VagueThe Knight : The JobThe Mike: Full of diceERAM : No RAMRamb: Who?Carol: No collabRudy: No ladderDess: No relevance The Device: The GimmickThe Vessel: The background Easter eggThe Freedom Motif: CagedThe Roots: Dried upThe Roaring: The snoring
https://youtu.be/xeksOD1t6Rghow did he know ?
>>742131443cute
>>742133890>The Freedom MotifIts battat motif, get with the program
Do you think that goatwink would put the hat back on if Kris was the one who asked?>>742130289I liked his dominoes comment in chapter 4. That got a chuckle out of me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu8Y1yW9TPI>JARONA>JARONA>AND ONE MORE FOR THE FANS
>>742112659Then the Hussification would be complete
Flowery = Rudy Holiday (college roommate)Blue = Toriel (you can even look up how their "suspicious"/"accusing" sprites mirror each other; notice how he "mothers" and holds the fun gang accountable, which commonly comes up in DR's Toriel flashbacks. Toriel also dances in ch4)Yellow = Asgore (he kills himself in Undertale if you spare him on a neutral replay; the whole manically-collecting-evidence mechanic obviously reflects how he is in Deltarune)Green = Asriel Dreemurr (matches Asriel's outline in Asgore's monologue at the end; also matches Ralsei's traits like loving cooking for people, especially cake; Green offers cake to Asgore on the climb up when he is rejecting all the flowers; throws you Yoshi eggs sometimes even! Why did Kris make him a mute retard? Uhm I don't know... May just have to do with Kris still trying to restrict your access to information about Asriel like in ch2)Aqua = Kris DreemurrPurple = AlphysOrange = ...This one is the toughest admittedly, people speculate either Undyne or December Holiday. Undyne because of the Undertale connection where she was a weak little kid who wanted to be strong and brave and got trained by Asgore. She was a rookie cop when Asgore was chief. Orange looking to Pink as an older sister would connect to Undyne knowing the 'Blooks such as another Blook being a cop. Otherwise, December because of Orange's affinity with Green, which doesn't track so well with Undyne.
>>742140842>>742140892>>742140923if you anons come to this thread, it's KASA according to the metadata, which would make it a bitcrushed version of this coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO89LmqVcpA
>>742113031Extreme cope
Does he want [freedom]? I can't imagine any other reason he would do it for free.
Finally playing Deltarune on steam deck. Its been very fun
Peakhttps://files.catbox.moe/e4vm4z.mp3
>>742138693$FRND is old new...$NORM is the next [big] thing
>>742141101So many kino attacks, same with Gerson.
He's cooking? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl-zsdeToBE
Which one is Kris going to be?
https://strawpoll.com/XmZRQWEJ9gdWho is the best flower?
>Toby Fox revives Mew Mew's popularityI knew he was based...
>>742141165Orange could actually be Noelle Holiday and crying for Green VS the fun gang mirrors who calling for Dess and Azzy to beat up Kris. The big motif around Noelle in DR is making her stronger and that is what Orange needs.
I don't think I've read any posts mentioning that something similar to Woofenstein plays when Kris and Noelle are deep in the lakeAm I retarded or is this significant?
>>742112659Suselle is kill 100%. But i think the biggest suspense right now is whether Toby let Kris hook up with Susie or will he just friendzone everyone with everything? And if Kriselle and Kralsei can be options? If Kris is his own person then only he can decide, right? So you cant really do ship routes?
>>742141190Replace the _ with %
>>742141165Yellow is Undyne (just as retarded)
>>742141101Jarona Corridor would have ended the Knight
Ralsei is a tree, you retards.
>>742141419i realised after i posted it...
>>742141417Move on
>>742141293Terrifying, what the fuck was in that dream?
Everyone look at this finely-aged image i saved from some random undertale thread 10 years ago
>>742141419Spin! SPIN!!!
>>742141426>>742141365>>742141165Orange is abso-fucking-lutely Noelle, she's heavily associated with mouses in Deltarune.
>>742141417You know what I think?I think we're literally playing the role of Kris' heart. The Soul isn't just a proxy for the player, we ARE part of Kris. The mewmew fight not-so-unsubtly hints at this. So when it comes to love, Kris will listen to their heart. But ONLY if we've been good to him.
So now that you fought Knight, saw him run away in chapter 4 and got his ass kicked in chapter 5, do you expect him to still be a villain or its going to be some kind of ally joining the gang to fight horrors beyond comprehension from hell?
FuckMy schizo theory after Chapter 5The Incident(tm):>young Kris finds the source of darkness or Gaster's reality fuck off machine or something in the bunker>he wants to impress Dess, tells her to come check out the sick shit he found>the two of them go there and Kris accidentally activates some device or rouses the ocean/wellspring of darkness under the town>Dess is consumed by the darkness and Kris loses his hand while hanging on to the end trying to futilely pull her out (the vaguepost hints about Kris' hand missing and the part where he touches someone's hand in the darkness in Chapter 4)>the severed hand has massive negative emotional aura due to how it was lost, and Kris seeing it as the hand that killed Dess and failed to save her>it's darkner form is a being of pure evil (Friend) and it can go anywhere because it's a darkner that exists inside the source of all the dark fountains>Gaster ENTERs, fixes Kris' injuries by grafting goner parts on him, Kris has a "Can't even fathom the horror, HELP ME NIGGERMAN" moment due to seeing Gaster in person (the eggman scenes hinted that Kris has met him face-to-face once and that was enough to cause him to have a complete schizo meltdown)>Asgore doesn't know much beyond what he's seen in the aftermath and what Kris told himThe master plan>Kris becomes a conspirator to help the Knight to save or revive Dess>Kris and the gang try to summon something to help them, it goes wrong and the ritual accidentally swipes (You) from Gaster because Kris has a goner hand and possibly some other transplants (possibly the summoning Catti talked about)>Kris+Knight, Gaster+followers, Ralsei, Friend are all on different teams and (You) are a rogue agentKnight>is a fucked up darkner created from one of Dess' possessions in some way paralleling abomination Gerson, "piloted" by Rudy>Rudy is sick because ripping his soul out and putting it in the Knight to control it is making his body waste away and killing him1/2
JANNYMAN, JANNYMAN(...)
>>742141190it's clearly not the same vocal track, the rhythm is different
>>742129214Chapter 4 was the reality check, she just ignored it and went right back to fantasy land
>>7421416595 foot tall
>>7421416102/2Friend>Seam is just a costume Friend wears and it's biding it's time (Seam is a handpuppet and Friend is a severed hand)>not a member of any of the cabals, just wants to fuck shit up and make everyone sufferRalsei, several options>A. the Ralsei fetus theory, he's Dess and Asriel's son born after Dess was absorbed>B. he's Kris' horn headband that he dropped into the source darkness during The Incident(tm) and has a similar powerlevel as Friend>C. shocking twist bonus option that too GIGABASED for Toby to do it, Ralsei fetus theory except he just looks like Asriel because Dess thought it's his child, when he finds out the truth he morphs into a form that looks like young Kris with antlers
>first sleeps in your bed>then cuck you with Noelle>then forced you to watch her les out session for entire day instead letting you have fun with Berdly>then cockblock you with MewMew>then makes you go on a romantic walk through the town lights meant for the couples>ends on telling you there will be more cucking next chapterWhat is exactly wrong with her?
Wow toby fox actually made a reasonable secret boss for the latest deltarune chapter not bs difficulty like the others
JARONAJARONA JARONAhttps://litter.catbox.moe/045v4c1y5ksd685a.mp4
>>742141293It's legitimately comical how bad Deltarune fans are at musical analysis. This is nothing.
>>742141731>A. the Ralsei fetus theory, he's Dess and Asriel's son born after Dess was absorbedThis is so retarded but also I keep thinking about all the nods to pregnancy and childbirth in the dark world. What was up with that?
>>742141783fucking CUNT STOP THROWING BOMBS AT ME YOU WHORE
FLOWER MANFLOWER MAN
>>742129214I just hope she kill herself after giving her virginity to Kris old flame who will also lose virginity at the same time
>>742113031>>742113083>>742115937>>742129707>>742141191>Normal Route - Chapter 6 is Noelle's growing disillusionment about how she viewed Susie vs. what kind of person she really is. They slowly distance themselves.>Aborted Weird Route - Noelle rapidly discovers that what Susie offers is the exact opposite of what she truly wants. Goes nuclear on Susie and her world of delusions.>Weird Route - She already doesn't give a shit about Susie and had a flood between her legs for Kris.
>>742141789filtered
>>742141768>thinking she's gonna stop
>>742141768>Noelle will complain about spikes so they will fuck in Kris's bed>Kris will have to stand in front of the doors and wait until they are done
I’m gonna say it.Flowery is the best main boss so far
>>742141337the silent wiseman
>>742141554*his
>>742141579The seemingly invincible baddie still giving it their all despite starting to struggle is kino
>>742141697to me it does sound different, but i'm just going off of what the file says it isit also mentions an 'elysiancrossfade358' as the artist if that helps with tracking it down
>>742141963my bad, sorry. when in rome
Spamton begs to the audience.Spamton pleads to the audience.There is no audience.
>>742141963Aqua is a girl, Kris is a girl.
>>742141898Anon, the NANOSECOND Noelle is dragged into the Dark World, told (or figures out) it's a fake world of delusions, LITERALLY something she has a seething hatred for, is the moment she either dumps Susie (Normal) or goes nuclear on the place (Aborted Weird).
imagine waiting 10 years just for yet another "escapism is... le bad!" story
>>742141731As nonsense as what you're saying is, I at least respect your Ralsei theories more than most since they at least try to explain why he looks like Asriel. It's amazing how often Ralsei theories conveniently don't even attempt to explain that since it's hard.
>>742122904flag?
>>742141281I never saw Friend as anything more than an annoyance. I was always on this freakt bird fuck's back, and I'm glad it paid off.I gasped when I saw it at the festival stand.
Sadly, chapter 5 only sold 3 copies cus it was the worst game ever made
>>742142051Your desire to fuck Kris is not as strong as my will to help my boy Kris score. My dream overrides yours.
>>742142008Pathetic.
>>742142085It’s clearly more>Escapism good if it helps you grow and bond with people but bad if you obsess and let it consume your life
>>742141768Breadcrumbs for Krusiefags, same with the Kriselle options at the festival. It's purely there to string people along and give them hope so they remain invested in this poorly written story
KRIS I WILL HELP YOU GET SUSIEIF EVERYTHING FAIL WE GET MORE THORN RINGS
>>742141841WITH HIS HEART IN THE SAND
>>742142164Wrong. Kris will score and that override s your desire to see Kris score because I will be the one to destroy that blue pussy with my dick.
im going to replay Ch2 to see Berdly again
>>742122021
>>742141293>shared themesthis guy is deaf as shit because the song of the deep is just Your Best Friend played on some kinda drumit sounds good with NORTHERNLIGHT but i dont think theres an intentional connection here
>>742116001RUN ALONG PUP!!! DELTAGODS RULE THIS BOARD!!! ANOTHER THREAD TO 1K POSTS!!!!
>>742142192How are the Krusiefag fanartists at xitter doing right now?
>>742142315Weird Route really isn't an excuse to sideline him so fucking hard, fuck you Toby
>291,816 players peaksmall game
Does anyone know why ch5 was such a ch1 memberberry? Toby is by no means incapable of appealing to nostalgic moments, but making so much of the chapter be a mirror of ch1 seems like it's trying to communicate something.
>>742142358They have Side B at least. Susie is really good to Kris on Side B.
>>742141897>noelle's door is next to the stairway with wings
>>742141534The odds that Toby saw this have to be pretty high, right?
>>742142394Because she thinks he’s super depressed
>>742142383Who even buys deltarune? Toby is set for life from Undertale, and the game doesn't have any DRM
>>742142390It's to highlight how Susie and Ralsei have changed for better and worse.
>>742142321carol sex
>>742142447I bought it
>>742141981It's just an AI thing made by suno.
What if any changes are in chapter 5 if you abort weird route in chapter 4?I assume Berdly is absent from the festival?
>>742142447I bought because I've had my fun with it for years. Even if the ending flops, I will cherish the memories and shitposting.
CH3's mainroute was foreshadowing for the normal route>CH1-4>board 1/2, the show still being fresh>CH5>first half of the cut board 3, the show is getting a little boring but still tolerable.>CH6>tenna going loopy and trying to drag it out as long as possible, the gang has to take a step back and think about what to do nextsusie is going to suggest something retarded like kris and/or noelle living in castle town or them opening fountains for the sake of gathering recruits and having more adventures.then kris, ralsei, and maybe noelle will need to take a step back for a moment to think about what to do since susie's obviously gone off the deep end.
>>742142394But, side B is the all you can eat buffet for Krisellefags, if anything, both routes kill Krusie
>>742142542well now i'm annoyed my sleuthing was so lackluster
Question anons, i'm gonna do a Weird route playthrough for the first time, and i gotta know: Is there any difference in the route itself for killing or sparing enemies that aren't essential for the route in ch2?
>>742142447I bought it and will buy it AGAIN for $60+when it gets a physical complete collectors edition
>>742142643It doesn't matter if you are violent in weird
>>742141835>>742142124"Ralsei is a tree/the forest" theories after the plant lore in Chapter 5 sound reasonable on the surface, but they don't work under closer scrutiny because there's no way him looking like young Asriel doesn't have some massive significance.
>this is the guy Toby wants you to cuckHow could he be so cruelhouse?
>>742142358idk I don't go to twitter but I have seen fanart of prominent Krusie artist posted here where Kris looks like he's about to kill himself so I'm guessing not well
>>742141963>>742142051Ladies ladies, Kris is clearly a tranny>Aqua bears some similarities to young Kris>Aqua is female = Kris is female>Spamton bears some similarities to current Kris via lines, situation, and backstory>Spamton is Male = Kris is maleIt's so simple...
>>742142178Meta
TEN FEET TWENTYTHE NORMAL MANWAITING FOR THE TOUCH OF HIS HANDCUTTING UP ONION-SAN WITHOUT A PLAN
>>742142643it's more schizo if you recruit everything you can before and after ice shocking everything you can
>>742112659Do people still think ralsei is in cahoots with kris when the later had to practically beg the former to stop making dark fountains? Doesn't seem like the kind of misunderstanding two people with some great master plan would be having.I actually think ralsei might defect to the souls side at the end.
Do you guys think Chapter 7 gonna be like LOST DELTARUNE? Bittersweet kinda ending
>>742136357funny
>>742142390This >>742142469. All three Routes in CH5 serve to highlight how the various masks the characters were wearing are dropping.Which is why it's so important to play all three - without knowing anything about the Weird Route you'd actually see Noelle/Susie getting together as an honest relationship.
>>742142854>>742142772Thanks, i was gonna go in that way but i wanted to be sure.
>>742142773He will always see Kris as an evil straight white male
>>742141465>"Oh shit, the Dark Fountain signal is in the sky! I better head to Kris's living room dark world!">leaves closet>is now a tree in the middle of a public school hallwayI don't think that works.
>>742142553HELLLLLLLOOOOOO HAS NOBODY TESTED THIS
>>742142542>Thought it was just smartly snipper and edited to be perfectly on-beat>It was AIWell I'll be. I used to think audio AI was unnotice-able with just your ears until it started speaking lyrics, I guess under enough percussion and opera hits you can make it unnoticeable.
>>742142773hey g would you make me a sandwich?
>>742141731>Ralsei fetus theoryThere's always the "Lite" version of this theory where Ralsei isn't literally a dead fetus of Dess but instead he's Dess and Asriel's fanchild, maybe they one day conceptualized him and he came to life as that, or they were in dark worlds before adopted a Titan Spawn, thus merging this theory with Titan Ralsei theory
>>742141963based
>>742142913Noelle/Susie leads Noelle to coming to terms with being a Noelle since she's happy with Susie
>>742142961You can kinda tell when the voice starts going all over the place near the end, but yeah, it's getting a lot harder to pick out.
>>742116001Aww, i am so sorry for your 500th famitsu thread getting bumped off the front page.
>>742143048>normal route is Noelle simply accepting the role of a mindless NPC just living her life without questioning anythinggrim
>>742142849Eggfricker52 shot himselfYoure laughing and hes dead because onionsan got chopped up
>>742143048The Aborted Weird Route already disproves this.
no I just want to fuck it
>>742141863>Normal Route - the gang falls apart due to everyone acting like retard, roaring happens, everyone dies, game resets>Weird Route - Kris and Noelle sequence break to the end game, they are completely unprepared, stranded in depths, Noelle becomes more and more unhinged, finally snaps at you(maybe becomes the knight and time loop theory yada yada), with no one to stop the roaring everyone dies, game resets>Aborted Weird Route - Noelle becomes grounded and determined, she sees both you and susie as useful tools and doesn't let the gang fall apart, so she can continue to get stronger and figure out the way to get strong enough to game this out and break out of the loop and save everyone. In the end, she will be the main protagonist of the story. The only true ending is when she learns to be independent because being too obsessed with either Susie or Kris will never really let her fully develop as a character and will lead to her doom.I am more and more confident this story will be some sort of Steins;gate premise of finding the slim balanced route between two different bad endings attractors. Or looking at it from different angle, (You) will be like Homura from Madoka, going back in time and manipulating Noelle so she can avoid the disaster her naivety and weakness will bring to herself and everyone.
>>742141768>hey Kris, how about we try an open adventureship?
>>742129707While i fear so aswell why give us all these dialog options in 5 where Kris clearly shows hes crushing on Susie, hard. Like when you sit at the bridge.Also i doubt the Catty plot will not show up again
>>742141963
>>742141963>3 letters>4 you'sis it that easy?
>>742142849Poor Onionsan, turned from a wholesome npc into a deep fried creepypasta maymay....
>>742141841Highest order of kino.
>tfw no time to draw properly for the next 4 weeks so i can just do shitty 5 minute doodlesPain
>>742142773>right after this Kris says you should show it to Susie>examine it again when susie is with you and she likes itI got you my little nigga... we getting this dino pussy together...
>>742143134And mew mew would have let you If it wasn't for your friends being icky
>>742143165Twenty more citations and those evil chuds will learn to trust the facts and stop using their eyes
>>742143165god i could not imagine being such a fucking seething wikitroon that i need to cite every fucking instance of kris being called "they" as validation
>>742142829*his
>>742143123Being a mindless NPC is her purpose.
>>742142930Ralsei's roots spread throughout town. That's how he can be everywhere.
>>742142881>lost deltaruneYour reaction when you open the bunker and this comes out?
>>742143165She*
he's going to kill susie which is why all this forced yuri shit happened first with total disregard for established character personalities, but it won't "backstab" susietroons it will just make them more obnoxious
>>742141768EverythingDespite that, i wont spare her when the time comes
>>742143145Doesn't really work, since the Aborted Weird Route makes no qualms that she really, really prefers what Kris offered to her.The lake scene with Susie seals the deal for me.
>>742143257<- Start doing this.
>>742116001>What if...you faggots fuck off to >>>/vg/ where you belong and stop spamming LE STEALTH GENERALS on /v/?
>>742141348Im so happy about it. Love this crazy bitch, but the first appearance was gutted by>switch onlyAnd coming out 4 days before Survey program or so
>>742143404i expect more horror kino
>>742142390as the other two said its to showcase how everyone's changed>susie really hasnt changed at all, she was just wearing a mask after CH1 to get close to everyone>ralsei is starting to get rude and impatient because breaking/changing the prophecy ISNT. WORKING.>kris is outright heartbroken that things are going the way they are because susie's completely fallen for her role in the prophecy and is trying to drag noelle into hers>noelle is actually incredibly unstable and discontent with monotony and has just been wearing a mask her whole life because a noelle is just a noelle.
So here is a schizo thought brought you by the internet
>>742143473She's going to catch the blame from the town. There will be no sparing.
>>742142930roots
>>742116001What if I don't WANT to
>>742142964I don't think he's dead, I think Dess gave birth to him within the darkness after she became lost so he's some kind of a non-darkner darkness creature. The prophecy referring to him as "prince of darkness" actually supports this since "prince" is a hereditary title that a strongly implies being born into.
>Weird route gods so based that they will avoid the one ending by murdering every NPC so the game cannot endWe saved the world!
>>742131443she won hard
>>742142521imagine unironically buying wokeslopthe absolute state of this board
>>742143145Not sure about all of this, but I do agree the weird route will be the most fucked up one. Anyone who thinks it will end well has no idea how toby works.
Why Toby said there is only one ending? Despite game having Side B route
>>742143473i think its telling how i've seen more art of susie being distraught about the weird route than i have of actual suselle from CH5.
>>742112659>chapter 4 is set up as the chapter where things “get real” and Susie has to stop treating things like a game with Gerson setting her up as the one to defy fate>jk Susie’s actually the prophecy’s strongest soldier and just wants to LARP with her with stupid dark world adventures foreverWhere the fuck is Toby going with this
Susie why not just go fuck Noelle in your bedroom? Kris is staying with Mew Mew
i'm so ready for his return, bros
>>742143616The opinions of anyone who unironically says "]word]slop" are meaninglessImagine not being able to explain why you dislike something without nuchan lingo
I usually don't give a shit about Ralsei but he had a lot of funny portraits this chapter that made me like him more.
>>742143473Yknow did any tards go " NOOO TOBY MAKE A BIG SEWER SLIDE WARNING AT START OF WEIRD ROUTE" yet?
>>742143628Little bit of trolling
>>742143252if they'd had an animated sequence at the end like they did at the beginning of the chapter I feel like things might have gone a bit better for Ch5's reception. Rule of Cool and all that
>>742143539holy shit
He looks at YOU
>>742143652Chapter 4 and 5 feel out of order.
>>742143479What do Susies eggs smell like?
>>742143635Everyone is way more angry at sus for cockblocking kris twice than interested in the bland dateIt wouldn't had been an issue if tobby had properly given the chance to play pairings even if it was meaningless at the end
>>742143774
>>742143628i think there is only one true ending but multiple other bad endings
TFD
>>742143680I still think this, that Rouxls thing, and even those two Ruddinns at the start of the chapter really truly cement that the cuckolding wasn't incidentally a part of the lesbian necessity, it was really meant to twist the fucking knife.I just don't know why, like what the fuck could it accomplish for the story? Is it just "suffering builds character" over and over and over?
>>742143781No, no, no(yes)
>>742143635There much more Suselle art but most people troll them by posting suicidal Kris memes
>>742143774i used to think it was a giant face
Who da knight?
>>742143628>weird and normal routes dont have real endings, just some kinda softlock where you are unable to progress>need to go in between both routes to find the one and only actual ending to the game
>>742143628>Deltarune B is it's own game>Released in chapters until 2040>(laugh)
>>742143680there are two parties not accounted for here
>>742143868it's to manipulate you
What do you guys think regarding this? They had argument or something. Dess left and got lost / never returned
>>742142872They are having offline conversations, but Ralsei isn't actually part of the Carol/Knight plan. Kris is trying to do an extremely precarious balancing act of disappointing all of their conspirators only so much without betraying any trust so that their own plan moves forward, all while keeping us the most out of the loop.
>>742143868Maybe to turn Kris into incel who stabs Noelle out of jealousy or some shit? I have no idea.
>>742143774>autofellatioclassic janny
>>742143909Don't get it twisted, Toby 100% made it look like that, and came with the bird design later. He even made it move like it's talking.
>>742130001>>742129707Its obvious Susies going full escapism.>end of chapter >think susie will go "Dude we need to tell an adult, two people are kidnapped including your dad">Susie" NOW ITS NOELLE ADVENTURE FUNTIME. Also i live in the school closet now lolThats fucking insane. I genuinly was confused as fuck when that happened
>>742143910it's down to Rudy or an amalgam between Kris and Noellei think it makes sense it's Rudyhe just happens to lose to a wall and kneel on the same episode he "fell" down a stair? yeah right
>>742143805>susie makes it out of bounds and breaks off her prophecy rails purely because she cares about her friends>you wake up to susie hugging both kris and noelle in whatever hell they dropped into while cryingsusie is a FRIENDPILLED HERO and the prophepsyop wont contain her when the cards have been played.
>>742143805>Everyone is way more angry at sus for cockblocking kris twice than interested in the bland dateAnon, Weird Route has about 30 minutes of content and gets 90% of art and discusssions.
>>742143990That would make carol a bit more sane on why dess's room is preservedBut then why do we need to find her?who tf is in the code then?What is even the plot of the game about?
>>742143910>Kris is they/them becuase Kris and Soul>Knight is they/them becuase is Kris and Noelle
>>742142183underrated
>>742143990doesn't account for le voice in the code
>>742144035Susie has the power to end the prophecy but she won’t because she’s drunk the cool aid so much that she’s become deluded. Susie will need to be stopped before the game can end
>>742143628The Knight is Kris+Noelle fused together, and the weird route loops back to Chapter 1
>>742143601What the fuck is her hair supposed to be?
>>742143539I hate how much this works, did you come up with this?
>>742144093>What is even the plot of the game about?It's about getting cucked by two lesbians
>>742143954Only Kris is unaccounted, Mad Dummy has no business here is she's just an outisider parasite taking Mew's body when the dark world is destroyed
>no egg in ch6>no schizo in ch6>no WR in ch6We gonna get MAXIMUM FILLER?
>>742144096ch5 WR in a nutshell
>>742144086The actual scene is about 5 minutes longThe bad route had carried both undertale and deltarunebut beyond that, chapter 5 gave us 0 progress in the storyEveryone likes the characters but there is no excitement in the chapter beyond the weird route and the resentment some scenes gave
>>742143990That doesn't really mean anything, nobody told Noelle anything about what really happened.
>>742144175uuu bratty zubat
>>742144232>no schizo>Seam blocks your path
>>742143628One ending because normal route has you timeloop so it doesn’t actually end and side B has you break the game by murdering enough NPC’s so that the game cannot function.Only twisted sword is the real one ending
>>742144175i was seeing it as 3, though 1 is also possible
>>742143628There will be no Side B. Kris and Noelle "escaped" the boundaries of the game, which logically means we won't be able to see what happens out there. I think a lot of questions will be left without definitive answers by the end of the whole story.
>>742144232Chapter 6 is gonna be Noelle and Susie having sex in the dark world while Kris watches
>>742143539no this would be stupidwhat the fuck would this even explain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhAp52ROZSEWHAT THE FUCK DID SUSIE MEAN BY THISHOW DID SHE KNOWWHY WAS SHE SO SMUGWHY
>>742143990This has already been talked aboutOnly actual evidence of what happened to Dess are the unused lines in Ch 4 that say Dess was essentially stuck in a Dark World for so long that she became lost in the darkness
>>742142963I find it very interesting that there's two blue birds present in the library in Chapter 2. It's also very interesting that this "Normal NPC" more closely matches the palette of the blue bird enemy in the Ice Palace. What if Berdly is not the blue bird you're supposed to Snowgrave to follow the FORBIDDEN PATH?
>>742144175Looks like small twin tails or even just messy hair, i don't get why many artists give her bat wings
>>742143774What a silly guy
>>742143473Source for the pic?
>>742144232I don't think Mew Mew was the last secret boss overall, she was just the last crystal holder. Holding out hope for a kino Seam fight next chapter
>>742129707Yeah but i think only on Kralsei route. If you didnt give a shit about Suselle by going to Susie in chapter 5 bath place, then you can't complain about her lesing out at the end
I don't have enough media literacy points. I don't know what to make of all the different potential threads or what happened or the different interpretations I've seen if I have to be honest I can't take this chapter release anymore bros I'm much more of a finish the thing then review it to understand it type of guy like reviewing chaps of a book as you read them is fun and aids understanding a lot (or at least in my case) but it's not what I'd be relying on full understanding of the book waiting a month before I read the next chap and just sitting on an incomplete interpretation would make me go fucking crazy like I'm going now
>>742144343>Only actual evidence of what happened to Dess are the unused lines in Ch 4 that say Dess was essentially stuck in a Dark World for so long that she became lost in the darknessWhich lines? Aren't they Noel's?
>>742143474But it doesn't make sense from narrative perspective. What do you think will happen in side b? They will just pop up in Gasterverse and have epic fight and at the end Kris will save the world and get a loving yandere gf?You don't just make a story where you indulge in a manhera's delusions and have it all play out great with butterflies and rainbows. Weird Route Noelle is doomed. You might get some cool moments and successes, but just like in Deltarune's Genocide route, you are going to hit a roadblock at the end that will stop your rampage.Noelle is set up for a trainwreck in weird route. There is no way around it, it is going to end up bad.Susie in normal route is set up for a trainwreck, this will also end up badly.There must be a 3rd route and Noelle is the key. She is the focal point of all the possible drama in both routes. Kris is uncooperative and probably malicious, Susie is too delusional and obsessed to realize anything. Noelle is the only one who has the potential to save the gang, save the world and break out of prophecy. She is the one who is already set up to be able to find glitches and weird route makes it clear she has dormant desire to break out. Running away with Kris is just not the way about it, she needs more critical thinking and use what she has at hand instead of running away like a weakling.Whenever at the end she will end up with Susie or Kris is irrelevant. Knowing Toby she will just choose Susie, but it would be nice to be able to win her in the end.
>>742116001Suck my dick jannynigger
>>742144184Nope the internet>>742144334That the path we're going is extremely meta and to find the girl and do something real, we're going to have to do it literally ourselves with the files
>>742144339toby totally coded it in (with the dialogue) when 5 was meant to come out with 3+4, and just left it in since nobody'd know what it was referencing until it actually came outdoes imply we'll get a castletown visit in 6 at least to be able to play the piano during it
>>742144438schizo-ing over the game and the theories is half of the funi would NEVER recommend Deltarune AFTER it ends
>>742112659>piss people off with all the cuck shit around the ship>don’t bother giving them any development and just have them SAY how much they love each other>”btw noelle fucking HATES nothing happening while Susie wants her forever LARP”Toby already planted a bomb around the ship’s neck the question is if he’ll actually detonate it or will people forever blame the stupid dykes for killing the plot
>>742129707Mew Mew fight shows that only Kris feelings matter so i think he will end up either with Susie or with nobody. I don't think he can just fall for Noelle or Ralsei based on our choices becuase that would also defy his will. Even if we only suggested it. If Kralsei route was real, i don't think Kris would force us to see Krusie walk scene that ends with him getting cucked
>yfw
>>742143805I don't think the writer(s) are aware of how much a dick move joking about your friend being a slut/player when they're talking with someone they have interest in is. If it was just Susie being out of line ralsei probably would have said something. But he joins in because they don't get how doing that kinda shit gets you cussed out at best and can kill friendships. Why the fuck do I want to hang out with some assholes who make jokes about me being some whore?
>>742144397https://x.com/_senby_/status/2071223524765942151
>>742144423
>>742144442>>742144131
>>742116001I'LL [Fuck] YOU UNTIL YOU [call me in the morning, baby]!
>>742144093Um......cheesed to meet you
>>742142510Calm down Rudy
>>742144621don't do that
>>742144237>The bad routeI'm not sure the Weird Route is the "bad route" this time.
>>742144543We've been schizoing for EIGHT years anon... with two more left....
>>742144035God I want to see her try that shit against me and my [Hochi Mama].I know it won't happen because Toby fox hates catharsis
>>742144621NO PLEASE I WASNT TALKING ABOUT THE LAKE I SWEAR
>>742144627this, seems like a writer issue
>>742144725Especially, the don't.
PROCEED
unused_6 = stringsetloc("With the light shining from the doorway...", "UNUSED_slash_UNUSED_gml_8_0_b")unused_7 = stringsetloc("Then the door slams behind me.", "UNUSED_slash_UNUSED_gml_9_0")unused_8 = stringsetloc("And everything goes black.", "UNUSED_slash_UNUSED_gml_10_0")unused_9 = stringsetloc("... is this that nightmare?", "UNUSED_slash_UNUSED_gml_11_0")unused_10 = stringsetloc("... or was everything else a dream?", "UNUSED_slash_UNUSED_gml_12_0")THE FUCK?
>>742143954Look if Madly didn’t want to suck off a teenager that’s her problem IM still going to use kris to fuck her body
>>742143601nyon!
Random take: Tenna's flamboyance would have been more distinct if queen was more like king in ch 1 and was menacing and not easily convinced by "oh shit that's what a dark world does"
Do you guys think Tobert will force players to do all the black shards for Seam or do the Weird Route or BOTH to actually unlock a happy ending that defies the fate without killing half of the cast and cucking the other half?
>>742143910Idk but I think the next fountain will be in the hospital. They'll finally reveal if it is or isn't rudy. Final chapter is obviously the shelter.
>>742143680>>742143954>Kris (unwilling body, willing soul) fucking Pink (willing body (and how!), unwilling soul)hmm... I think I can fap to this...
What is this place, anyway...?How did I get here?... as if I haven't asked that question a billion times already.I...I always did have that nightmare.Walking into the darkness,With the light shining from the doorway...Then the door slams behind me.And everything goes black.... is this that nightmare?... or was everything else a dream?I'm starting to lose track of the time.Has it been days? Hours?If someone told me it's been years, I might believe them...Before, the sun came up,And so many wonderful things happened that made time meaningful.Things like breakfast, or late night TV...In this place,I don't eat or drink anymore.I can't tell if I'm awake or dreaming.I can't even tell if I'm dead or alive.It's just nothing but pitch black silence.... except for the noise.The scratching noise I sometimes hear...This sounds crazy, but even though no one can hear me,When I hear that noise, I feel like someone's listening.Anyone, if you're there... thank you.
>everyone casts sans as gaster's standing operative>while normalnpc is out here getting shit DONE
>>742144940>I CANT DANCE
CHAPTER 5I do have one thing, though.And that's memories.Memories of my life...Maybe that's all I am at this point.A collection of memory......Then all I can do is... not forget, right?"Don't forget."I just have to keep telling myself that...
>>742143992That I do believe. Kris is clearly stringing Ralsei along with some bullshit. Thats also why I think he might actually switch to our side, eventually he's gonna figure out he's being played like a damn fiddle. Chapter 5 shows him thinking for himself some, so he's not just gonna lie down and take it anymore.
>>742144940Yes. The twisted sword is made of purified dreams and trance resistance. In a world of fiction, the power to create is the ultimate weapon.A weapon of creation that gives your the free will to act independently, the only to save the world
>>742141659HOT POCKETIN HIS HAND
>>742144232CH6 is where the story splinters>normal route>aborted CH5, mindbroken noelle in castle town>aborted CH2, for the thorn ring>there might be another use for the pure crystal
tobylet me kill the fun gang, allow me to end the madness.
>>742141165For me Seth is Dess and Orange is Noelle.
>>742145038I don't believe Toby Fox is this clever with plot
>>742112659>>742113031>even what's supposed to be a fucking Suselle ferris wheel ride instead got Kriselle contentYeah, I buy it.
the low priceof free
>>742143954the Mad Ghost already said in the cutscene that since her body wanted it she'll let it happen
>>742112659https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njgcjGojRKkso this song is clearly suppose to represent the weird route right
>>742141191see>>742144940
>The ThornRing doesn't actually have any special properties, it just happens to blossom Noelle's long-buried masochism perfectlyI genuinely kneel before this plot twist
>>742143680i feel there is like 20 people in this picture
>>742145232Probably not, but the finale can't just be a generic us vs knight battle. Otherwise half the shit in this game would be for nothing.
>>742143635Suselle was already a nothing burger ship but now it’s “big moment” is forever attached to cuckshit. It also doesn’t help that a third of this fanbase also just fucking hates Susie for being an ass and wants to see her suffer now
>>742144097I just noticed, if knight going back in time is real, and we will do it with him, then there would be two instances of our soul through the weekWhat if knight will travel so far in time that he will visit the moment kris recieved soul for the first time establishing stable time loop, and letting us experience dess wanishing in first personThis way while kris is trapped by prophecy we are trapped by our own actions, thus leading us to third route that will free us all and justifing all the side activities
Cant take a read on Toby. On one hand he teases them like some kinf of power fantasy Tifa and Cloud couple. On the other hand Sasuke and Naruto were also much closer and Naruto still ended with a girl he interacted maybe 3 times in first series and Shippuuden. On top of that theres also examples like Keiichi from Higurashi becoming a cuck who didnt end with Rena or Mion. Or infamous Sora cucking Tai in digimon etc. that could justify Toby's writing
>>742112659I think a reason the Suselle stuff is not resonating is the fact that it has to sideline Kris for the Susie and Noelle. It's been like that since forever. Chapter 2 had that one scene in Noelle's room in Dark World and Chapter 4 had the Holiday house stuff. You can't preoccupy Kris during the festival, so all he's forced to play 3rd wheel and it taints the whole scene. I'm not thinking "Wow, Susie and Noelle are growing so close today" but instead "Wow this must be super fucking awkward and miserable for Kris."It also feels like their relationship is too easy. They have opposite personality yet they never bicker or argue. Remember back in chapter 1 when Susie wouldn't do what you said until the very end of the chapter? Remember how Susie went from bullying you to being your friend? Remember how you protected each other from King? That felt earned. Suselle doesn't feel earned. Suselle feels like sappy yuri wish fulfillment.
>>742145037>don't forgetHave to wonder if this has any connection to Sans' poorly drawn picture? Probably just thematically
>>742145421yeah what if
>>742143165didn't Kris cast his vote as "king" of the festival with Noelle as the queen?
>>742145421Real shizo hours
>>742145419I find it weird ralsei was cool with this when he goes out of his way to explain to susie that the dark worlds are just pretend a day prior.
Kris has a thing for berdly but susie will not let them persue.
if it was anything other than yuri I would have faith that toby was writing susie's relationship as intentionally badbut...
>>742145463BundaCuloASS
>>742145243>people are still falling for shipfag pity scenes after ch5
>>742145479no noelle explicitly says she couldn't remember what either of them voted for :^)no this writing isn't becoming incredibly contrived what do you mean?
SAY IT
We keep saying the knight is an amalgam of Kris/Noelle, but what if it's an amalgam of Dess and Kris' original body?
>>742112659>what if [cope]God this is going to be every thread until 6, huh?
>>742145243>Noelle's dad laughs. Carol pulls his ear, and he laughs harder.Based
So, who do you think will be the two Gaster referred to in Entry 17?Sans and Papyrus?Alphys and Sans?Kris and Noelle?Kris and Sans?You and Kris?
>>742145421Game files do include chapter 0 title card, so it could be a way for us to experience pastBut then again you wouldnt need knight for that
>>742131443We love human cunny here
>>742145587>misses how Susie is going to completely torpedo her relationship with Noelle by telling her about Dark Worlds after her father died/Noelle lost all joy in the relationship in the WRYou're the one being played with like a fiddle.
God I just don't know what items to pick!You need the Green Apron flat outEveryone's underrating the Blue Shoes, the stat bonus is incredible when Ralsei's weapons suckThe Yellow Hat is great for healing or for when you need to fightThe SethSpecs are basically another DealmakerWHAT DO I DROP. I feel like I should drop the SethSpecs, but goddd
>>742145652There can be two Knights.
>>742145652>Dess and Kris become the Roaring Knight>Noelle and Kris become the Holy Night
>>742145705Sans Undertale and Sans Deltarune
>>742145705you and kris would be the kino option
>>742144232Mew mew is literally two dudes
>>742145705Kris and Noelle or Kris and I seem the most likely
>>742145705At this point? Kris and Noelle for sure
>>742145645Glue!
>>742145512ralsei's one and only motivation is the prophecy and he's cool with whatever makes it happen and he's not cool with anything that goes against it
>>742143434Confirmed by Aqua btw.
>>742145432>Sasuke and Naruto were also much closer and Naruto still ended with a girl he interacted maybe 3 timesthat's because naruto isn't gay (sasugay totally is though)>Keiichi from Higurashi becoming a cuck who didnt end with Rena or Mionthat's down to ryukishi being a chickenshit bitch who's too afraid of making any couples canon, despite him setting up multiple timelines that'd allow all couples to be 'canon'>Sora cucking Tai in digimon he's meant to fuck his sister anyway, so that's not surprising>overallbasically just expect it to not happen because of mitigating circumstances like her dating a girl, or the writer being a coward, or kris actually being made for his brother (somehow)
>>742144376don't post this you'll make that one anon really mad
>Suselle is so unfathomably shit everyone is actively betting on it being Toby trolling and it will explode come next chapterOof I’d almost feel bad for the people who unironically ship them if they weren’t all the most insufferable troons possible
>>742145463>It also feels like their relationship is too easy. They have opposite personality yet they never bicker or argue.Anon, it's explicitly explained in both the Normal and Weird Routes, you just have to stitch them together:>Noelle was drawn to Susie because she believes her to be a wild, assertive, domineering person who will force her to change, grow stronger, and thus set her free.>Susie is desperate for a truly romantic, deep connection, so is drawn towards Noelle's facade of this kind-hearted, warm, preppy girl.They're both drawn to each other's masks.
>>742145834>ralsei's one and only motivation is the prophecy>keeps saying we can't let it heppen
>>742142051This.
>>742145782>Black knight>White Knight
>>742145796mew mew is literally a dude who managed to succesfully transition into full blown femaleshe is a catgirl nowthis works because it's literally a fantasy lala land and not real life, something trannies can't seem to distinguish
I think this dialogue has some pretty interesting implications for Ralsei's character.People have been theorizing that Noelle will eventually replace Ralsei in the party, and I think that's going to happen next chapter when Ralsei decides to start doing things his own way. Ralsei is 100% going to get freedompilled and become a schizoboss.
My biggest concern with the overall narrative since Chapter 2 has been that I'm not just invested in the Holiday stuff at all, so I worry if the final direction will land for me. I think Noelle and stuff adjacent to her is very interesting on the Weird Route but otherwise I don't especially care for it, I never had an interest in Dess and Carol hasn't earned my interest either. Obviously Dess is going to be a big part of it in the end, but I hope it doesn't end up banking too much on you caring about the mystery of what happened to her in the end, unless Chapter 6 brings it more to the forefront and makes me care more.I think it's a bit unfair to say Noelle isn't interesting because she's only interesting in the Weird Route, because I think one of the strengths of the storytelling in both this and Undertale is how it uses different routes to contextualize characters differently and give you a fuller portrait of them, and that's the case with Noelle too so it feels a bit silly to act like they're two totally different characters, but I still hope something happens with her that parallels the traits she exhibits in the Weird Route in an interesting way or something at some point.
>>742143910Carol.
So Papyrus is not in DR at all. Well Toby did say so. Still fucking hurts to know i will never see him as a character again.Unless hes the forgotten man
>>742145759>that whole nothings changed bitdoes she loathe susie? Is she being forced into this position by the game?
>>742122021Kris I'm going to fuck your mom
the worst part about chapter five susie is that she's great in the weird route. she's her old self entirely, funny and charming and everything. toby is 100% capable of writing her as a good character, he's not lost the capacity at all, he just doesn't want to. he'd rather write her as the bitch that cucks you. why. why!!
>>742145782>Kris and Noelle fuse>becomes this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=envzEYLWc5Y
>>742145512>>742145834ralsei is working with the knight and everyone else to make Susie the herothe one time he says "how could you" after the knight Swoons her is because he went off script after Susie laughed at his face for a minuteSusie is essentially the Truman of this show and she won't even realize it until it's too late
>>742145972>tfw theres a fancomic out there where they make MewMew grow cotton-beard to shave cause trannies can never be happyThat said id fuck mad mew mew
>>742145930yes that's why he let the dark world in chapter 5 continue to exist because he doesn't care about the prophecy anymore
>>742145432Japan loves NTR. Toby loves Japan. 2 + 2 is 4.
>>742144175Sex, that's what
>>742145956Chess theory bros... We are back
>>742145759Sure bro, this time for sure, ch6 is our chapter baby, he's going to turn it around>two years laterthis time for sure, ch7 is our chapter baby, he's going to turn it around
>>742145782>>742145956I mean they'll likely become the Angel, but nobody said the Angel couldn't be a knight too.
>>742143539It can happen, the want to become real, Gaster too, and their best bet is using the device you're using to access their world, Your computer.
>>742146013>does she loathe susie? Is she being forced into this position by the game?No, see >>742145907. It's only on the Aborted Weird Route that she starts figuring out that Susie can't give her what she wants.
>>742146009>Well Toby did say soHe did?We do know that Papyrus just never seen a human before Undertale and he came together with Sans. He is almost certainly the brother of Sans in Deltarune. If not, then who is? Semi?
Is anyone even going to do Kralsei ending? Who would want to make Kris a faggot after so much effort he put in getting Susie or Noelle. And since Ralsei doesn't exist it would make Kris a literal delusional faggot fucking a plushie or something
>>742145782>>742145956>Noelle becomes the White Knight, facing hte final boss>"Your move, Nigger"WHOA NOELLE
>>742146124This comic is still my favorite piece of deltarune fan art hands down.
>>742146061That tp slash move is so natural in surprised it hasn’t already happened
>>742146059Toby isn't a bad writer, he's a spiteful writer. It's like Andrew Hussie. He's doing this because he hates you.
>>742146191Someone needs to draw a tiny city under his raised paw....
>>742141419Faster!
>>742145705Should be Sans and Papyrus but it's probably going to be Kris and Susie.
>>742146191nigger, Ralsei is a traitor and a fucking liarSusie, despite all her faults, is more true to you than anyone elsethis fucking nigger should've been hanged 2 chapters ago
>>742145637Technically Noelle mispelling her name as "Noel" could imply she was voted as King. Maybe.
>>742146250it truly is a masterpiece
>>742146191Why would i want Kris to fuck a brother-homonculus?
>>742146191Ralsei has the most shipbait scenes with Kris compared to anyone else in 5.
>>742146013What >>742146159 said. Noelle hates her life and Hometown in general and is desperate for any sort of freedom. She relies on Susie to give her some form of that because Kris is a self-destructive cactus who refuse to be close like they once were, but her epiphany on the Weird Route made her realize this is not enough. Noelle is deeply unwell and a fluffy romance isn't enough to fix that.
>>742146059Those ‘Krusie’ pics he use to post were the equivalent to giving a dog chocolate before putting it down
>>742146256>not a bad writeroh yeah because its fucking amazing writing to sabotage your story out of childish spite and fetishes they give you a big prize for that i think
>>742112659Not going to happen, they're only bankrolling Toby for the yuri content.
>>742146059That just give me more hope, its all prophecy fault
>>742143680>KrisxMewMew is 4 people fucking eachother in 2 bodiessomehow nobody thought about porn for this
>>742146191>it took Toby going scorched earth on kriselle and krusie to make kralsei stocks rise>kralseifags are still pissing themselves over the threat to transeiKEK
>>742146356Noelle bringing out the rope even more relevant than ever
So how are the normals feeling about Susie. Does she still have the mandate of heaven in their eyes?
glue
>>742145978Ralsei will be the last line of defence against the weird route gods, the ultimate defiance and assertion of free will
>>742146173In the steam description it says (said?) >"Papyrus? No, hes busy, sorry"
>>742146483in the universe of Deltarune, it would be 4 people fucking eachother in 2 bodies while 30 different people watch
>>742146315>Susie, despite all her faults, is more true to you than anyone elsesusie is literally 1 bad day away from completely casting you aside for noelle
>>742146386>>742146159>turns out its just a fluffy happy yuri romance, that manages to save the day and everyone lives happily ever afteryou chuds don't understand, toby will never allow anything in this world to taint his yuri.you lost, but your indoctrination cope is funny so keep that up.
>>742146457Nintendo approved of the doe rape (she's the rapist) route, they're not going to stop him from btfoing out Suselle
>>742143628The point of the game seems to be overcoming a shit endingI imagine that there's a fated set in stone ending which the weird route will change, maybe the main route will too in its own way
>>742146663she is not lying to you, she tells you straight on what she intends to dobut i agree, they ARE going to cast you aside but she'll probably do it because of what she thinks is the correct reason
>>742146596Incredibly popular tweet (1.6m views, 67k likes) raging at her cockblocking you with Mew Mew despite you being her "wingman" at the festival
>>742146173Gaster, yes it’s the boring answer but it’s true
>>742146637>Meet new and endearing main characters, as well as familiar faces like Toriel, Sans, and more. Huh? Papyrus? No, he's busy. SorryIt doesn't mean he doesn't exist in the world. You just won't be able to see him. Seeing him would cause a paradox because he only sees a human for the first time in Undertale.
>>742146315Susie literaly went 'yo Kris you know our special thing that's only the two of us? Well fuck that I'm bringing in Noelle' at the end. After it's made clear Kris hates seeing them together.Like how can't you see how much she's hurting the human.
>>742146784I will be the one to slay the dragon, so don't stay my hand kris.
>>742146598JA-orangeGuys why did Kris pick up the seed package in shaky creepy text?Hes gonna poison someone with goldflower-tea isnt he?
>Mother 3 had rotating party members >No +1 for ch 3 (no one invited)>No +1 for ch 4 (despite having others at the church house gotten roped in)>No +1 for ch 5 (no one allowed by order of Susie)>Just Noelle again for ch 6Yeah we totally never would have needed Falco berdly (chain/crowd attacker) or witch catti (spells) or gerson's son (holy schizo cleric type, maybe extra good against dark spawn) in a fight against the roaring Nah we just need the doe
>>742146598Quality
>>742112659>>742113031susie doing bad things =/= suselle won't happen. they're just going to move past it because love is about not giving up or somethingthe love tester hammer game people are coping about how susie and noelle aren't in sync is missing the point, susie MAKES it work. that's the message you're supposed to take away
>>742146596Half the fandom wants to kill her for cockblocking kris while the other half is coping with fucking psyop theory
>>742145652Imagine Noelle as a gypsie trying to scam people with her dance while Spamton steal their wallets
>>742146892She’s just that oblivious and bringing Noelle in does make sense considering she can access the guitar code
The OFFICIAL Deltarune Wiki updated. Please know that any and all pronouns are acceptable for Ralsei now.
>>742146875Thats basically the same though
>>742146898I can't wait for any route to have vs Susie fight. There will be no mercy.
So did Susie just learn nothing from Gerson?
>>742112659Never happening
>>742146191Only if femKris is hard confirmed. I won't allow any gay shit if I can help it
>>742146892>"Kris, do you like anyone">mumbles like a retard because he can't say what he wants>"Ok, i guess that settles it"i mean, she asked you and you can't answer but that doesn't take away the fact that she DID careit must be a fucking nightmare being Susie, literally EVERYONE around you is hiding secrets and literally scapegoating you into something you have no idea about, there is going to be videos describing how Susie's fate (if the prophecy is a tragic one) is sad
>>742146996No, because if Papyrus doesn't exist in Deltarune then where did he came from(he isn't native to Undertale) and who is Sans's brother?
>>742145989I could see Dess not even play a role at all in the ending and being kept as this really obscure character who will get schizo theorists writing for years, or to save her you'd have to do some incredibly specific manipulations (perhaps even outside of the game) that are completely distinct from the actual game's ending
>>742147026thats how I felt
>>742146784The awkwardness involving Susie being a little distant around Noelle may have been intentional but that was 100% a gag scene that failed to landA miss of catastrophic proportions on par with Toriel dancing with sansToby what the fuck are you doing
>>742146993You don't need pronouns if never bother to remember anyone's name and just address them by>Heyor >You
>>742146993Alternate wiki when I fucking hate these troons
>>742146938no joke, I think the next chapter, YOU are going to be replaced with Noelle, you are going to be left out of the adventure, things will go to shit and your new team will be comprised of two new characters one of them being Berdly
>>742147071He was behind the tree, duh.
So who is on this panel? Noelle combined with Kris? Noelle equipped with sword? Or Krusie version of Knight where Susie equipped the sword?
>>742146993These losers really need to get a hobby who gives a fucking fuck about a pixels pronouns
>>742147180If that happens I will hate Toby less but I doubt it
>>742147180Give me Berdly and Mew Mew.
>Ch 3 having Berdly as the chapter +1 (unless snowgrave)>Ch 4 having Alvin as the chapter +1>Ch 5 having Catti as the chapter +1The absence after ch 2 was strange
>>742146993>pronouns>all of themfor what purposetroonery makes more sense when you understand it's the equivalent of a dog pissing to mark its territory, they just like pissing in every corner and screaming TRANS RIGHTSit's why they are so obsessed with bathrooms and "A TRANS GIRL PEED HERE" it's honestly fucking revolting
>>742145930He keep repeating that we can't let Roaring happen with the Titans. And that happens if we defy the prophecy
>Everyone hates Susie nowLol.
>>742146993Please don't turn by boy into a troon please for the love of god don't
>>742147068it's an unfortunate situation, if (You) had more control it'd be easier to get kris to actually admit how he feels, but then it wouldn't really be HIM doing itand of course, he's an antisocial teen with a sad backstory - getting him to actually confess his feelings would require way too much especially when he's right next to that crazy ass bitch noelle who just openly says shit
>>742145907They're both drawn to each other's masks.I get what your saying. Others said the same thing back in CH2 and again in CH3+4. If that's still the case, the mask should have slipped by now. Like, If they have a big fight in CH6, it would not feel real because it's been fluff until this point.Remember the Catti scene in Ch5? Noelle just brushes off the fact that Susie made her old friend cry and storm off. There was a real moment for Noelle to say "Wow that kinda harsh Susie" or make her think that Susie is more intense than she realized or anything. But it just gets brushed off.You mean to tell we dedicated that long-ass sappy lake so I can watch two of main character ogle over facades of each other? Of what they think the other one is really like? Fuck that.
>>742147068She even asks if you have a thing with Noelle, she’s not trying to cuck you, it’s just Kris refuses to let himself confess due to his mission so he’s just placed in an impossible painful position of loving Susie without being able to act
>>742147185It's stupid but it would make sense why getting an Egg counts as not proper completing a chapter. It's because he isn't supposed to meet with you yet.
>>742146993This is straight up misinformation as he was never called a "she".
>>742146315Ok Flowery
>>742147301Shes clearly going delusional>wow chris your dads in grave danger, so is undyne>we should tell someone... Noelle, not an adult>anyhow i live in the school supply closet now
>>742147378Actually, if you hover over the citation, Ralsei was referred to as "princess" by both Rouxls and Flowery
>>742147274The weird route content didn't even interfere with dark worlds after ch 2 and was all in the light world so I'm not even sure it would have been that unmanageable.
>>742147337>Remember the Catti scene in Ch5? Noelle just brushes off the fact that Susie made her old friend cry and storm off. There was a real moment for Noelle to say "Wow that kinda harsh Susie" or make her think that Susie is more intense than she realized or anything. But it just gets brushed off.Worse, she's like "oh please abuse me too Susie"
>>742147443if she was really serious, she'd ask berdley who for some reason is absurdly strong in the dark world
Ralsei is the worst kind of rulesfag alive. I want this fluffy faggot flayed and flogged publicly
>>742147203I feel like Ralsei saying that the Knight only appears when the heroes do in reference to Asgore's documents of there having been Dark Worlds since well before the game's beginning just reinforced the idea that none of the main three are the heroes of prophecy.
>>742147443We don't know manIf it's Susie going delusion or the writers deeper and deeper still in an echo chamber that they lost touch with how people may view a character
>>742147443Her ass didn't even mention undyne, lol
>>742112659without love, it cannot be seen
>>742147180>Kris gets kicked out of the party>Instead joins the Bad Guys>the real end game party is Kris + Knight + FRIEND
>>742147301chapter 5 main route susie isn't susie. tony decided to write a different character for that route and thought we wouldnt notice. he put the real susie in the weird route.
>>742147258Yes, let me make my own damn fun gang with blackjack and hookers
>>742145907You say this but the outcome isn't going to be that they fall out of love but rather that they learn to wuv eachother beyond their masks nonetheless!
>>742147450>delusional fanbase think this means Ralsei is a girl and it's not just Roulx and Flowery insulting him for being a sissy faggot
>>742147443>>742147548i mean, it makes sensethe story is trying to make her into a hero and the protagonist of the storyno shit he is going full blown schizo
>>742147450My special power is that if I call you faggot your pronouns become she/her
>>742147592No one remembers Undyne was even a thing at this point.
>>742147450Princess is not a gender
>>742147450So Susie should be called a "He" because she wants to be King of the Festival, right?
Seriously why is nobody mentioning the flower seed package? That shit was full creepypasta in the normal route
I pity you schizos coping Toby will put Suselle in a bad light as just picrel is too brutal. But on the other always being part of schizos myself except I'm not a hopium chad, I wonder if perhaps a Mew Mew sequence I hate isn't Toby's cry for help. GENUINELY, consider this:>two consciousness inside one body >one a spiteful, manic, creepy (as in pervert) ghost possessing an anime doll >actual darkneer of the anime doll being a honest cringekino testament to itself And while I like Mew Mew but hate her as a shadow crystal boss.. If reframed outside Deltarune and to Toby as we know him it is getting terrifying. I mean genuinely from the bottom of the heart. How the fuck does the same person writes pic related and Flowery as a character, especially Flowery's entire fight PLUS vs Knight sequence?NTR lovers are incapable of writing friendship moments and good optimistic stories for their souls are tainted by misery as long as they indulge that stuff. I mean genuinely, how are NTR lovers even capable of writing something besides misery porn? Since I cannot even imagine it.
>>742146892Susie is pretty fucking dumb as a brick>hey kris you were the only one who could open this fountain, have you seen someone???No? Ok>Hey kris do you prefer monsters or humans? Why are youy staring at ME? And why do you want me to treat you like Noelle or carry you????Is she actually retarded or playing with him??
I left these threads for like a day and now it feels like there's a dozen of the most retarded theories on the planet getting bandied about, reminds me of when over the course of like a day dessknight just turned into accepted fact after chapter 3 came out
It's really fucked up how unserious everyone seems about asgore getting kidnapped. Nobody even seems to care they weren't able to buy flowers from him like they planned for the festival
reminder to all those still copingtoby thought toriel's behavior in the last chapter was fine, he even had the troon defense force covering for him last time. He also wrote in a lot of justifications for it at the start of this chapter.
>>742147443
How is this not foreshadowing that Kris is going to use Susie as a sacrificial pawn?
>>742145776That's a good point; the Knight could be a different person every time you encounter them.
LMAO
How to get this person to draw lewds?https://x.com/shelbbot/status/2070942409865789936
>>742147520Can’t since in some routes he’s dead or crippled
>>742147540Is this something explicitly stated in the prophecy?
>>742147842Kek
>>742147274>Ch 5 having Catti as the chapter +1What?
>>742147806>chess theoryyawn
>>742147753Any way to openshit like this and it be readable on a phone?
>>742146993>literally either an object or a literal plant>pronounswhat's the fucking pointi think the funniest shit about it is that Deltarune kinda makes fun of escapist fantasies like the ones these people live init's such a massive self own to care about the pronouns or sex of beings in a fantasy setting where pronouns and gender wouldn't really mean anything since they don't function like we do
>>742129561This. People forget that /v/ is not the target audience.
>>742147068kris mumbling is about him supporting susellewhat he actually does when susie asks if he likes anyone is state at her like she's retarded because how the fuck has she not picked up that he likes her
>>742147612>Big late game shake upI don't see itIf the game was having party member management as a serious aspect of the game we'd be used to changing party members as a thing with every chapter but this is not what happened so I struggle to see it.
>>742147842Deserved
>>742147967She’s literally never had friends or been in a relationship before
>>742147760She's dumb as rocks. Noelle insinuating her suicidal ideation also go over her head. This dino straight up has no emotional intelligence.
>>742147842Toby will redeem himself by adding a proper Mew Mew date in chapter 6, trust the plan
>>742147842This is how it should have happened
>>742147203toby's making a weird point about all of the swords noelle can equip being non traditional a knife, a dagger, and a 'lance-like sword'kris is still the only one that uses regular swords
>>742147842what was her genuine problem???? So what if he flirt with anyone? Can't you just help him get laid??
>>742147842The good ending
>>742147937I'm feeling too kind even to humor a phonebaby like you but open the image in the new tab and manually zoom onto the image to view it, and if it doesn't work, sorry buddy but use a computer.
>>742147450Edit it to say princess then
Good NTR lovers enjoy media where the cheating and is the most painful thing imaginable. Toby gets that>>742147753
>>742147848
>>742147842The sexo route
>>742147842Where was Kris telling her to shut the fuck up nobody cares like Alex Yiik
>>742148229Calm down Noelle
>>742147852I think the part of the prophecy that Ralsei is referring to is 'The Knight which makes with blackened knife/Shall duel with heroes, strife by strife' which doesn't outright state the Knight comes and the heroes follow, but it does suggest they co-exist. Ralsei doesn't come across as misleading and more just genuinely confused when he's commenting on that part of Asgore's documents so I think it can be taken at face value that his interpretation is that if the Fountains exists, so does the Knight and so do the heroes.
>>742146993>>742147450This is just a lieI hope you're all proud of giving this dipshit (You)s and falling for culture war clickbait slop
>>742143539>>742144494While cool, how would console fags do it?
>>742147842god she's so intrusive her like you're not even a part of the conservation BITCH
>>742147842get FUCKED
>>742147967Kris (and this is my schizoing) mumbles because he needs Noelle and Susie together because of the prophecy bullshit but he genuinely cares for bothso when (YOU) tell him to confess or do anything that would jeopardize that relationship he will either mumble (normal route) or throw himself in the water (aborted weird route)i don't think he supports Suselle and it clearly hurts him to some degree but he has to do it
>>742147842Whats worse is that you can still reply "im serius this time" and Mew Mew wont believe you because Susie already fucked up
>>742146993Why isn't Noelle a they/them in the Wiki? It says right hereHoly shit Noelle has been non binary this whole time and the fandom just ignored it?
>>742148202Yeah but how is then said enjoyer capable of writing soulful moments like everything Flowery and honoring narratively the chacter to the very end where their very souls are evil and twisted per sheer brain chemistry?Evil cannot create, only corrupt, and I haven't ever seen an example to the contrary. Ever.
>>742148250Kris wishes he could be as based and as rude as Alex
>>742148276People LOVE taking the bait in these threads.
>>742148250god it's so cliche and saccharine. I don't even mind yuri or cliche romance but I don't know why Susie and Noelle just do nothing for me
>>742147301I have yet to see a susiefag here much less in the rest of the fanbase not on 50 pounds of copium. i've seen people side with CATTI on susie. it is over she is never getting her mandate of heaven status back
Does Toby Fox remembers this line still? If you give up, then everything doomed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ZCzBhIRzo
I just finished the chapter. Both "routes". I'm neutral to this chapter. I still don't understand if flowers know he opened the fountain or not, too much going circle around this topic.
>>742144402Pretty sure it gets foreshadowed if you play Ch5 in a file that doesn’t have every Shadow Crystal thus far; IIRC in his shop dialogue Seam bemoans that all the church Darkners are weaklings who couldn’t stand a chance against him when he offered a friendly challenge
>>742148382pronouns don't seem to matter when the subjects are hand are actual womeni wonder whyit's almost like the people doing this are just a bunch of men in drag
>>742148436NTR can be used to create in a positive way. I for example enjoy NTR media where it's usually a woman who's in a shitty relationship and then cucks the main guy for someone better and treats her better
>>742147760Naruto moment with emo Uchicha
>>742148481 >I still don't understand if flowers know he opened the fountain or notIt's all bukkake theater. All darkners in all chapters are nothing but puppets controlled by Ralsei.
>>742148481When you get out of "jail" Seth tells Kris she held up her end of the bargain so Kris probably talked to them before opening the fountain
>>742148481the Dark World and how it functions is a complete fucking sham, Ralsei gets upset at the fact that Flowery just keeps giving away how stats are essentially kids pretending to play DBZ
>>742148481They definitely do, or at least some of them do. Flowery taunts Ralsei by asking if the person who created the fountain is a bad person, knowing he won't say Kris is bad no matter what, and Seth has spoken to Kris before, however that came to pass.
>>742148338I saw it as a lost cause by that point and admitted to fucking aroundif you do that mewmew seethes so hard she causes a gaster-tier event. I'm surprised no one ever brings it up but she kind of resets the game
>>742148309i think it's to keep noelle safe kris clearly knows more about all that's happening and what might happen, and for whatever reason his goals involve susie and noelle getting together seeing them together is very clearly torturous to him to even a casual player, and it's an open secret that he cares a lot about susie and very easy to notice that he also cares a lot about noelleyet he can't be with both of them together, or either of them apart, he has to watch them together while he's leashed like a dog at arms length awayhe over compensates at the festival so they have a good time, but both susie and noelle clearly have a better time when they do something with kris over something with each otherbut as song says for the both of them, 'i guess i'm in love'
>>742148654Mmm, Ralsei bukkake…
>>742148481seth and flowery 100% do, but iirc it's never made clear if the other flowers are aware it was kris
>>742143685They did patch him up so he isn't dead
>>742148481Seth literally made a deal with Kris off screen. Flowers must be aware he opened it. Its just shit writing nobody clues in Susie or Ralsei. Susie doesnt even question when did Kris was able to make a deal with Seth if they just enetered this world for the first time.
>>742148276listen considering kris' fucking page on the wiki ralsei having random pronouns added is the most believable bait of all time
>>742148447>I don't even mind yuri or cliche romance but I don't know why Susie and Noelle just do nothing for meForget that. Suselle is every negative lesbian stereotype combined. Noelle has her cunt wetting over Susie who hated everything and was a bully of everyone. Literally reacts with happiness for whatever limited scenes there were where Susie still in her bully state. And only really lusts after Susie because she reminds her of her missing sister no less. Susie on the other hand literally has not a slightest reason to like Noelle beyond being an acquaintance and now she's in love with her simply because the dyke yearning to literally be violated by her wants it. And now whether one goes Krusie or not she's dealing emotional damage to Kris even as a friend simply because of Noelle, see >>742147753
>>742148825its just some temmie and annoying dog meme moment
>>742142854This is the way, it's the right of gods and kings to pass completely arbitrary judgement
>>742148819>>742148805Ok, why not confront Kris about that in front of everyone, Asgore included? And if Ralsei knows about this, why act shocked from the fact dark fountains appeared before?
>>742148925becuase Susie is a retard and everyone needs to keep Susie in the darkshe is going to crash out and it will be glorious
>>742148474It’s doomed anyway, you got to turn the game off sometime
>>742148548That's closer to revenge NTR really which I guess is about heroical larping in porn, but that's clearly not what Toby is doing, he is maximizing cucking of Kris to maximum just because, honestly besides working for the Knight, why does he deserves any of this? And no less Kris is basically tied to the Player so we're forced to watch as well...
>>742148925susie not questioning it at all was weird, aside from the idea of toby flanderizing her to be even more dumb than usual the only reason i can think of is the ol' escapism theory we've been on about, where she knows but is choosing not to think about it because it would ruin her escapist adventures
>CattixNoelle dont even have a single scene together outside of mentioning being friends>they are still a better yuri than Suselle somehowWould it kill Toby to make Noelle and Susie not look like awkward soap opera cliche's for one second?
>>742149091>susie finds out kris made most of the dark fountains>just casually goes "oh wow thanks for all the fun adventures kris!">ralsei and kris find this to be more horrifying than a complete crash out into a boss fight
ENTER: OUR FVARKING HEROES
>>742148474this happens any time you press 'give up' instead of continue
>>742148925Ralsei knows though, he even asks to speak to you one on one so that you can cut that shit out despite knowing (You) are watching. Flowery calls him out on not telling Susie too
>>742148481Seth literally says Kris did it
>>742149045ralsei is in on it to an extent i'm 100% certain he can tell who opened a fountain by being in its presence alone but remember that he does try and speak with kris alone without (you) listening and will always be able to do it in ch1 at the very least
>>742149129Well there's NTR where the cucked crashes out and gets revenge
>>742149180how do I join
>>742149045Ralsei says he trusts Kris even if he personally thinks what he's doing is wrong because he implicitly believes Kris must understand something he doesn't to be doing the things he does, so that in conjunction with Ralsei generally keeping things he knows close to his chest and away from Susie and Kris for their own sake would just indicate to me that he doesn't want to bring it up because he doesn't think Kris would do it without good reason.
>>742149154they have a little bit in the sweepstakes stuff but yeah nothing really in game
>>742149180TOBY, tell me about Eram! Why was he in Chapter 3??
>>742149180... and Kris
>>742149264I wouldn't be surprised if Ralsei already let Kris in on everything offscreen and is only withholding shit from the eldritch demon and literal retard
I'm praying for ralsei's death every day anyone else doing the same?
>>742149180and sans
>>742149180>Friend is a special interaction for the Soul specifically>Puts everyone HP to 1What did Toby mean by that?
whats his iconic and memorable boss track?
>>742148925Why was she doing this anyway?
>>742149149She turns from cute Tomboy into actual lesbian bimbo. Her wering a ribbon and not being annoyed by Flowery was another moment i hated. Or wanting to learn cooking from Green or picking flowers for Noelle. Its all cringe.
>>742149180And the hometown homicider
>>742149498remix of octopus' garden
>>742149240With chapters left impossible for Kris to do in considerate manner. The closest is actually us taking the Weird route. But chances of Toby justifying partaking of Weird route is as slim as Suselle getting rightfully demonized as fake forced shit in the first place. Abyssmal to say the least.
>>742149180based
Before thread dies. What JEVIL saw / learned that made him mad? Why Seam can resist "Truth" ?
>>742149498obviously meat factory
>>742149538she said why retard kun
>>742149498remix of meat factory
>>742149379I will start praying for everyone's death after ch5. I hope the game ends with the roaring
>>742149553people unironically wanted her to do these things but for Kris though
>>742149180actual heroes for Kris and his NTR life
>>742149641I didn't
>>742149045Because Ralsei is just playing along and helping Kris and possibly the Knight as wellThe true victim here is Susie. She clearly has no fucking idea how any of this works. Ralsei would be the first one to say that the fountains need to be sealed yet in the CH5 ending, he is seen leaving a cake next to Susie's bed, completely playing along her delusions while she just lives in a closet. You'd think your best friends would be the first ones to point out "Dude, this isn't healthy".When the Knight swoons Susie, Ralsei says "How could you?", he looks genuinelly shocked and that's because Susie was literally making fun of the Knight for a minute straight and laughing in his face, which pissed off the Knight enough to go "off-script" and kick Susie's ass, which shocked Ralsei. He wasn't supposed to do that.This game is essentially the Truman show with Susie being Truman, except that she isn't "finding out" that it's all a sham. To the contrary, she is beginning to play along with her role, which is what everyone is after.If you want to go full Chess Theory, she is just a pawn, a powerful pawn but, just a pawn and, more than likely, a literal sacrificial lamb to fulfill the prophecy and keep the darkness away.
>>742149498https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHeNhTtCewJust compare it to meat factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGGsasEZ8O4
>>742144818It's very interesting that the shelter sounds like it's functionally a dark world, but isn't actually one (we don't see any smoke come out of it when the door opens).
>>742149772Susie is going to revert back to how she was at the beginning
I hate all this shipping and character relationship shit. It makes all the discussion turn into arguments and go in circles, but most people love it apparently.
>>742148925susie doesnt hear the deal part, she only backtracks because kris is TAKING TOO LONG
>>742149615Yeah I don't buy that she was actually looking for shit retard I'm asking the real reason
>>742149641And Krusiefags got rightfully cucked for it. Imagine wanting to ruin a perfectly good tomboy, horrible taste
>>742149875personally I don't really care who ends up with who, I just felt like it was forced in this chapter which isn't a shipping complaint but more of a writing issue - but then again this could be something greater. Susie ending up with noelle doesn't matter to me if it's written well
>>742149887And she doesn't question why would Kris have Berdlys feather and be aware Sseth would want it?
>>742149240It’s been said before in these threads, but this is kinda what happens in the final 2 chapters of Live A Live, and Toby cited Oersted as one of the inspirations for Kris.
>>742149875I don't really care about it all that much either, but to be fair, it is a fairly big part of the narrative, or at least the Kris-Susie-Noelle triangle is.
>>742149875Don't just bitch about it. Bring up a topic you would like to discuss
>>742149852> (we don't see any smoke come out of it when the door opens).bro your chapter 3 ending?
>>742149945They wanted her to be le epic tradwife who cooks and now they got it but Noelle will wear pants
So why exactly were all the flowers so concerned with being humans? Sure they all want to be "real" because they know they're just plants, but why don't they say they want to be lightners or monsters? Why humans specifically?
I wonder what onionsan were thinking seeing this shit in weird route
>>742150173possibly a krisism
>>742150173they want to be there for asgore because asgore feels alienated from kris
>>742150173Humans are the apex creature on the planet.
>>742149693Can I fuck Kris's mom? By the way, I'm new in town.
>>742150173Kris' fault
>>742150173Humans are like japanese people in the Deltarune world, and by japanese people = anime people so they think being humans means being the coolest.
>>742150067There is no smoke before the credits cut, and the door stays open long enough to make that clear.
So at this point considering that we have maybe established the Tazmily aspect of Happy Town, and that Ralsei may be a plant/roots/tree or whatever, perhaps it follows that despite the villager/town reset the roots remain, hence why Ralsei seems to know about the cycle.
>>742150173Because they're a reference to Undertale and the souls were human
>>742150336the earth remembers
>>742149557
>>742150336I can’t believe Ralsei is actually a tree
>>742150327https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XERLBqVjGko9:35
>cover my ears, monsters are all I haer>it's been so long, losing my mind I fear>alone in the dark, (in the shelter, down in the shelter)>hole in my heart (in the shelter, down in the shelter)
>>742150173>>742150219>>742150314Kind of Kris's fault but probably primarily Asgore's since he's the one that would constantly talk to them, likely about being human.
>Asgore clearly expresses the most concern for Asriel and when he's going to come back>The flowers don't mention or reference him at allSomething doesn't add up.
>>742149993She ask why kris have the feather but inmediately drops the topic and go back to the adventure
>>742150336Ralsei is still Flowey and seems to function like Floweyeven what he is doing is not that different from what Flowey did, he is manipulating events to get his desired outcomeagain, we should've hanged this fucking idiot 2 chapters ago
>>742148925Susie wasn't present to hear about the deal, but I think it's suggested she has been at least considering that Kris made the fountain when she points out Kris was out back when it was made. I think it's crossed her mind but she doesn't want to believe it, or that Kris would hide it from her, so pushes the thought aside.
Yeah, I think Hussie still has firm grip on Toby's psyche.
>>742150483>>742150327
>>742150584Hussie and Toby are still close friends.
>>742150567jeremy
>>742150525This bitch really is drooling over GODly's feathers.
>>742150709
>>742112659>Zero ship winsFucking imagine the fallout.
Flower Man is probably the best song he has ever made
>>742148474I didn't know this existed until i picked it out of spite on a replay. kind of freaked me out.
I’m sure after 5 chapters of being wrong chapter 6 is where my theory is canon :) I am not insane
>>742151331I still think it's Ruins from UT :)
https://strawpoll.com/xVg712Vw6yr
>>742143083lmaowhat game is that anyways?
>>742150173Muh undertale reference
