>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”>They're all in on using AI for game development >They aren’t interested in cloud gaming besides the Portal>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.>Rather than focus on growing their userbase, they're hoping to increase the amount that they monetize the existing one>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each year
lalala sony lost I hate sonymovie games DEI no gaems
>>742190647>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yearthat's it?
>>742190647>they will now focus on “profitability per user”translation: we're not bringing in any more cows but the ones we have are sure to be milked to death
>>742190647>They will rip off the retarded sönyggers even more.AAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>>742190647Link?
>>742190908https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/business_segment_meeting/pdf/2026/GNS_QA_E.pdf
>>742190647>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”Oh, that's not a good sign. Shows that they've got nowhere to go but down from here.
>>742190951Awesome, thanks OP.
>>742190826yeah, well have you seen ps5?TLOU2/demon'sratchetragnarok/horizon???spiderman2yoteiwolverinethat's all I can recall
>>742190951>>742190647keksnoyggers are gonna get even more nickel and dimed
>>742190647>at least one major tentpole game per yearWow, lofty goals there...
>>742190647>People prefer monitors to TVsIt's so over for Sony.Also those Playstation-branded monitors better actually be good value-wise because PCtards are the most valuefags around.
>>742190647>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yearA whopping one movie a year? Damn.
>>742190647>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6Get ready for that $1500 PS6 and $1200 PS handheld!
>they will now focus on “profitability per user”Translation: You're about to get fucking squeezed
>>742190647>>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”Playstation fans were celebrating when playstation ditched their PC porting strategy despite Sony literally saying they plan to squeeze money out of their remaining users, they deserve what's coming next.
>>742190647>the rape continues.snoys can't get a rest.
>deeply ingrained ai slopbravo sony
>>742191195>that article titlewell, you can scratch off that 'as a way to avoid raising console prices' part.
>>742190647>>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”If this meant delivering more value to a smaller number of people instead of casting the widest net possible this would be a good things but instead it just means squeezing out whales even harder.
>>742190853snoys deserved to be ripped off every possible way.
>>742191309Not even whales, the document says 40% of PS+ users pay the highest tier and they want to increase that number
>>742191195Things are looking up for Sony because GTA alone will move millions of PS5 Pro units once people see the atrocious performance on base PS5.
>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”>They're all in on using AI for game development>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6>Rather than focus on growing their userbase, they're hoping to increase the amount that they monetize the existing one
>>742191309Cope
>going hard on milking a handful of whales for every penny they're worth instead of making good games with appealing to gamers to drive salesGacha....won.
>>742191315They will happily cheer for this because most of the snoys on this board don't even own a PS5, they just root for Sony like they're a sports team.
>>742191576Playstation EoS soon. How could Girls Frontline do this?
>>742190647b-but the schizo said that GTA 6 will save Sony!!!!
>>742191845The only ones GTA6 is going to save is Take Two and Rockstar. Sony isn't going to get much from it because GTA6 is just going to take money away from all the other slop instead of creating additional revenue.
>>742191845>>742191995Cope tendies, Sony already cashed $2B from GTAVI pre orders alone
>>742190647>profitability per userRev up that vaseline boys
>>742192223>tendies out of nowhereholy obsession lol
>The president of SIE is a retard>The CEO of Sony is an even bigger retard
>>742190647>they will now focus on “profitability per user”That explains the full retard live service focus after just having spent an entire generation of it not working.
Snoyggers back to the cotton field for massah sony.
>>742192223kill yourself Eric you lost hard
>>742190647>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yearthat's a lot of planned concords...
>>742192603Bazzbros won bigly.
I voted for this
>>742190647>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yearI wonder how. Their first party studios have some of the longest dev cycles in industry lol. If not Insomniac then it would be over. Santa Monica took 8 years to release nu GoW asset flip with a woman. They would need to create new teams to achieve that.
>in gta6 we made realism goes a step further by having the players pay the fines with real dollars.
>>742193437I'm assuming they still have eight studios to cover for the fact that each of their big games takes a full fucking console generation to come out (or more). But one game a year is still atrocious.
>>7421934372026: Wolverine2027: AstroBot 2 (PS6 launch title)2028: Goddes of War2029: Intergalactic 2030: GoW Trilogy Remake2031: VenomAnd after writing this I just realized all of those would be cross generation releases and it doesn’t make sense for a PS6 to exist…
>>742190647Goddamn that's fucking grimOnly acceptable news is them not being interested in cloud gaming
>>742193660Tlou3 : the baby avenge the death of his lesbian moms by not-trump
>>742190853That's the problem with this whole model is you can only get so many subs. Since its partly tied to the console, there isn't going to be any rooms to grow. Even Nintendo is starting to lose subs too. Its also pretty clear at this point that we are never going to have a console that really outsells the PS2. You could argue the Switch beat the 155M number, but even that was done with multiple revisions, a massive boost from COVID and being on the market for 8 years. There really isn't going to be any growth in the console space anymore. We're past peak console so the only way to make money on subs is to milk the cattle.
>>742190647We really are living in a timeline that makes PS3 and Vita look like PS1 and PS2 in comparison. I am in awe of my disgust.
>>742193660>still 3 more years for Druckmann's lesbian in space simulatorGrim.
Did they hire satan or something this report isnt just bad its downright evil
Xbox mommy won.
>>742190647My PS5 is mostly a Genshin Impact machine with some PS1, PSP and PS2 titles so I couldn't care less about this
We are having reports for everyone or just sony?
>>742193890You know, Microsoft could capitalize on this scenario. Unfortunately, they're Microsoft. The last time they made a good decision with Xbox, Bungie was still in charge of Halo.
sony must regret pushing genshin impact so hard because all that money goes back to china instead of japan
>>742193660I mean yeah a huge amount of their install base is still on ps4. We're just getting to the point now where you're forced to buy this gen to play ball and gun games. Most people will be upgrading from 4 to 5, which makes the idea of a $1000+ console even less appealing since the software will still be hamstrung by the ghost of previous gens. Their answer to that seems to be "well you'll need ps6 to play out one underwhelming on rails narrative action game per year" which isn't going to move the needle
>>742194005I have the Nintendo one but it’s MTL
>>742190853It only means the sub price will increase again with the mentality of "they'll pay anyway"
>>742193890I buy XBAWKS for she
>>742190853That's exactly what that means. Prepare for dynamic PSN store prices that changes per user per hour
>>742190647All of these seem fine. They're the main character of the console business now.
>>742190647So they're going to be aggressively milking the handful of cows they have left with monetization everywhere. I wonder how this will work out for them.
>>742193660PS6 is not coming till 2030 at the earliest lil gup, even 2030 is generous. I'm expecting a 2030-rumblings followed by a 2031 announcement and a 2032 release.>inb4 he thinks I am trollingConsoles are designed years in advance. When they designed the PS6 to cost $800 and it now costs $1200 to MANUFACTURE they're gonna delay it and try to figure out some way to get costs down.
>>742194295no they aren't, they will just pass the buck to us. hardware costs might not ever come down again, this is the new normal(tm)
>Bought PS1 in 1997>Bought PS2 in 2002>Went PC only in 2007Seeing tge Playstation division go from the best console manufacturer to an Xbox wannabe since the Xbox 3shitty is pretty sad. It was funny at first, now it's just depressing.
>>742191995This is probably one of the dumbest posts I've ever seen on here.>GTA6 is actually not good for the PS5 because, uh, I mean, like, people are gonna buy this instead of all of those new games not coming out at releaseHow do you even live with yourself being this stupid? Did your mother write your post for you? Are you even capable of reading my sentences? I imagine living in Mumbai has to be pretty tough.
>>742190647>lets focus on the users we do haveTo me this isn't a bad thing.
>>742190647>>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.
>They're all in on using AI for game development>They aren’t interested in cloud gaming besides the Portal
>>742194295That depends heavily on how full retard Microsoft goes. If I'm not mistaken, they're planning on releasing a new console next year. That would be dumb as fuck, so I believe it. Sony's not gonna take that sitting down, even though they and Nintendo easily could at this point.
>>742194384The PS3 is a fucking godsend compared to what we're seeing today, which is insane given the absolute state of it during its launch period.
>>742193660Grim, can anyone tell me the chances of a used ps5 breaking? i'm gonna be forced to get one for gta vi and there's literally nothing else i'm intersted in there so i feel like buying a new one will be a huge fucking waste but i'm scared of buying used
>>742194453Both are releasing a console next year and GTA6 Enhanced Edition and GTA6 online will be used to sell them.Same as GTAV
>>742194547>i'm gonna be forced to get one for gta viYou aren't forced to do anything. GTA VI is just software, your life doesn't have to revolve around it.OMMMMMMMMMM
>>742194420>let's focus on PROFITTING FROM the users we haveyou left out two important words bud
>>742194420This means you only lose users over time. That shit is what killed comics already.
>>742193961lol imagine having bought a ps5. gaylord.
>>742193660You can split the God of War trilogy remake into 3 different games, there's no way they won't milk it, each at either full price or $50.Insomniac, in their leaks, also planned to split Spiderman 3 into two games, part 1 & part 2 sold at $50 each
>>742194381They are delaying it because the price is too high to manufacture and sell. Believe it or not, but Sony is not retarded enough to think people are going to pay for a console that is substantially more expensive than the PS5 Pro when people are balking at the price increases for current gen consoles.>People complain that $900-1000 for a PS5 Pro is ridiculous>PS6 at a base is probably gonna be 50% more expensive if they're using modern RAM and storage>Expecting people to shell out $1500-1600 for it when all of the games will be on PS5 anywaysLiterally not a consumer viable product right now.>>742194453I personally doubt that Microsoft is gonna release a new console any time soon. They are talking a big talk about hardware, but they're way more likely to partner with some other company like Asus again to make some cloud streaming "Anywhere is Xbox" bullshit.
>>742194547Every PS5 will inevitably die from the liquid metal leaking and shorting it.
>>742194074Why would SIE care? They aren't even Japanese.
>>742194649true but it's not a perfect analogy, the paper the comics are printed on didn't double in price bringing issues to $10 or whatever. In this case they know increased hardware costs will shrink their userbase inherently. Thats out of their control so they have to focus on what is in their control which is LTV of each customer
>>742193660Absolutely grim line up of games.>Another open world batman clone like Spiderman>AstroBot 2 (Fine)>God of War Reboot 3 >More 3rd person cinematic slop>Remake>More spidermanThis is really their line up of games? It is wild.
>>742194408>India reference out of nowhere
>>7421945427th Gen was what brought us all to this sorry state of gayman. As good as it was compared to nowadays it was still shit since it popularized all the trash we see today. If anything there's are way better games now since the middle market is healthy again, they have actual depth and aren't being snuffed out by the AAA marketing black hole.
>>742194681Bought one for Demon's Souls Remake, FF VII Rebirth and FF XVII fucked up hard
Sony's gonna keep raising prices and make Playstation worse because they know PS6 is gonna flop. No way in hell does a $1000+ console sell and have at best 1-2 exclusives per year. Doubling down on AI can't be good
>>742194729all the funds to go to their chinese branch rather than american/european/japanese
>>742194764Talk to oldfags about comics price. It wasnt technically massives but for many readers it was "the last straw"
>>742194704it's not like only ps6 is affected, their competition also has the same problem. they're all stuck with the same predicament so you might as well just release the console anyways and down the line you can lower the price (lol)
It's time to quit playing videogames.
Its the mario party gif all over again
>>742194863They're going to do their best to lower production costs while milking every ball and gun normalfag out of every cent they can and encouraging every gacha whale to spend their retirement savings on .png gambling.
>>742194074They should've made their own Genshin Impact.
>>742194809There is no argument where GTAVI is somehow bad for consoles lol. The game is generating billions for Sony and they release 1 game a year so what is this cutting into, exactly? Even if you're saying "other games get less revenue" so what? This is pretty much maximal activation for Sony. The PS5 will be used more on GTA 6's launch day than any other day in the PS5's existence. People who have not touched the thing will be reactivated due to it. So yes, it is great for Sony. They're lucky that Microsoft basically died before GTA6 came out.>>742194965The reason not to release it is because it immediately adds a second platform you need to support along with whatever retarded gimmicks Sony advertises for it.>THE PS6 CAN OPERATE IN 16K AND 160 FPS AND YOU CAN SEE ALOY'S ANAL HAIRS>Have to make your game technically reach these lauded marketing goalsRemember when the PS5 was advertising 8k and they had to remove it because 8k didn't work? Just reminds me of that. The people making the games and the people making the console are just different.
>>742190647There's no way this is what they really said
>>742195086That would imply designing sexy anime girls
>>742195202Did you see >>742190951
>>742195154I mean what you're describing is literally what already happened this gen, it's just that we're already aware of it now. Delaying it is a gamble because there's no guarantee prices will ever drop. If you do delay and Microsoft comes in with a new gen next year that will give them a headstart. There's plenty of richfags or idiots that will still buy an expensive console just because it's new
>>742194827You're right about the middle market, but even then some trailblazing indies were finding some footing on 360, Wii was almost entirely shovelware to middle market material, and 7th gen handhelds flourished with an almost 5th gen tier output in terms of creativity. That stuff was still around, it just wasn't in the spotlight. I do think that tier of software is much more openly recognized these days. Hell, Silksong was one of the biggest games of last year, imagine if fucking Castle Crashers snuffed out the competition back in 2008.
>>742190647That can't be real. It's so tone-deaf that it's actually laughable.
>>742195339>That stuff was still aroundTrue, especially in JapanJust not on this level, even RTS is making a comeback.
>>742190951Sony.What the fuck are you doing Sony.
>>742194980It's time to stop expecting anything out of the AAA market. Actually, that was 15 years ago but better late than never. Just hang back and play smaller, reasonably priced games with reasonable hardware requirements. Or just go full hermit and pretend nothing after 2011 ever happened.
>>742190647Reminder that they also announced FY record profits as wellhttps://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/IR/library/presen/business_segment_meeting/pdf/2026/GNS_QA_E.pdf
>>742190647>they will now focus on “profitability per user”This is how most big games have died>they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.eh?
>>742195337Anon. I genuinely believe that Microsoft could release a console tomorrow that is more powerful than the PS5 Pro for the EXACT same price and it would be sitting on shelves for weeks unsold.Microsoft as a console brand is dead. Xbox is dead. It is not a viable competitor. No one is switching to them. Microsoft would have to do blatantly illegal stuff like "Hey, if you connect your PSN account to Xbox, we'll give you every game you own for free (that is multiplat)!" and even then I doubt people are swapping for a more powerful machine.If Sony is still sitting there and worrying about Microsoft then I think they are outright doing it wrong. Be more worried about pricing people out so aggressively that people turn into Switch 2 gamers because the Switch 2, even after a price hike, is looking awfully affordable right now and it can play modern games (including a rumored GTA 6 port).
>>742195465Continuing to walk the path they've been walking on for a decade now, even though the risks and consequences are more evident than ever. If Concord didn't force a philosophical change, they're just lost.
>>742194221depending on how they do it it might unironically workif they just jack up prices on existing users that's retarded but if they create new features that people would genuinely be happy to pay for then there's a chance it could work. It's kinda like how people bitch about netflix now but 30 years ago you had to drive your ass to the movie store to rent a movie, drive home, watch it, remember the rewind the tape otherwise they'll change a fee, and then drive the tape back to the movie store before the rental period was up otherwise they charged you a late fee. I don't think Sony has it in them to create anything that interesting tho.
>>742195602I don't disagree, but we're not talking about half steps here we're talking "next gen" (whatever that even means now). If you're shopping for a new console next year and your options are a ps5 pro or the next xbox it might make sense to make the investment in something with longevity. Of course that assumes like you said that ps would be delaying all the way to 2030 which seems extreme. If they're out of step for just a year then sure might as well wait because as you said the vast majority would rather the next PlayStation than the next Xbox
>>742195567>PS Plus remains a key driver of profitability, and we achieved record-high PS Plus profitability in FY2025.Yeah, that shit's covering their ass. Hence the "profitability per user" angle. Fuck video games, we /subscriptions/ now, and at this point they may sink if that ever collapses. This is the price paid for the free generational win that was PS4, Sony got the foothold to pull this shit.
>>742190647I feel like there was no reason for ps5 to come out other than sony's business model saying they need to have a new console out every 6 or 7 years or so. is there really anything the playstation 5 does that makes it necessary? i'm sure they would have been able to make a demon souls remake for ps4 and it would have been fine. new consoles seem like such a retarded idea these days. i mean, with something like the n64 from the snes it makes sense. you wouldn't be able to have 3d games on the snes so a new console makes sense. ps5 seems to not make any sense and it seems to have literally no reason for existing. if you are a console gaming there was literally no reason to have bought a ps5. i have to be wrong right? there can't be that many retards in this world, right??
>>74219454750/50. PS5 has fundamental design flaw with its liquid metal degrading which leads to overheating and sometimes safety measures not kicking in. This is present in all PS5s apart from Pro. They reduced degradation in revision like Slim but its still present. A lot of shops can fix that though exactly because its such common issue. You can say anything you want about Xbox but their hardware this gen reliability wise is a lot better.
>>742195745The only way they'll give something of good value like that to their customers is if someone else provides a successful commercial idea as a proof of concept so they can copy it. On their own, SIE are like the Chinese: they can't create shit, just poorly copy it.
Nobody cares about consoles anymore. Just buy a PC. You couldn't name 5 reasons to justify a PS6 purchase, hell you can't name 5 reasons to justify a PS5 purchase at 2026 prices despite it having 6 years of maturing. Steam machine 2 and helix will sweep up solely because they're PCs and you don't have to pay for online gaming.
>>742195889PS5 operating on SSD drives is cool and it's a better PS4 than a PS4 unless you like Senran Kagura lol but people are doing fuck all with it that's interesting.
>>742190647>>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.>They still won't port Bloodborne and tell Mitsubishi to fuck offGrim.
>>742195993PC won’t ever have Wolverine, Intergalactic, GT7 and 8, AstroGoty and GTA VI is a timed exclusive Those are already more than 5 reasons
>>742195993Brand recognition is a hell of a drug. PS5 owes everything to PS4's runaway success. Sony's out of their mind if they think they'll get that lucky again with a PS6 in 2027. PS5 has coasted on nothing but brand recognition, even PS3/4 eventually came into their own but PS5 never has.
>>742195316Yeah I just read through it, Jesus Christ Sony's plans are actually just on the level of /v/ shitposts now
>>742193584kino
>>742196172>PC won't have liberal arts movieslopThank God
>>742194384PS3 was the last good Sony console. It's also the last Krazy Ken Kutaragi console, coincidence? I think not.
>>742190853I’m pretty sure this is how game publishers in the mobile gaming sector have operated for a long time. Sure, most people won’t pay for add ons in Candy Crush, but your retarded aunt will lay down £600 over the course of a year through incremental purchases
>>742195993I can't see the steam machine becoming mainstream like that but if steamOS can make prebuilt PCs have a console-like experience in general then I could see that being more common.
>>742196337>PS3 >GoodNah, Playstation died with the PS2
>>742196172That's what you said last time and then they ported everything to PC. Not to mention PS5 emulation is already a thing. Sony straight up admitting that they can no longer rely on a growing player base and have to resort to squeezing the players they already have will only end up pushing more people away. >>742196174Brand recognition doesn't mean anything if the price isn't right. We're living in a cost of living crisis and the casual gamer who bought his PS5 to play cod for $399 a few years ago definitely isn't buying a $900+ PS6. PS5 sales have already cratered since the price increases and it wont even out sell the PS4. Price go up = interest go down.
>>742194709>>742195918Lay it flat retards
>>742196558It means that used PS5 can die at any time negro. You dont know how used it was and in what enivornment.
>>742190647>>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.The one doesn't have anything to do with the other wtf???
The Gabe cube is just the coal mine canary for the upcoming state of the industry. They are getting shit just because they're the first to release hardware in this new fucked market. Just wait until you see next gen xbox/ps prices>what about about the switchOnly reason is they managed to secure deals and hardware prior to prices rising so they're able to keep it cheap. Anyone who didn't make production deals prior to the price hikes is going to get fucked, not just valve. I wonder how much the ps6 will cost at this rate, $1200?
>>742191175They realize that's brand suicide, right?>But Apple releases overpriced junk every year!Look at the average Apple customer and look at the average Sony customer. Do gamers have the Jew Daycare jobs that Apple users have?
>>742196757>Look at the average Apple customer and look at the average Sony customer.They're the same picture.
>>742191195The line also indicates that many of the old ps4 users that never moved they count into their ecosystem did infact move on, but not to ps5.
>>742190647Total console DEATH
everything makes more sense when you realize that in the US at least 50% of all consumer spending is made by the top 10% of earners. The hardware costs are an unavoidable fact, so now the console makers are forced to just chase more affluent users somehow.
>>742196693That's a really fucking embarrassing conclusion for them to come to
>>742196735>Only reason is they managed to secure deals and hardware prior to prices rising so they're able to keep it cheap.LPDDR SW2 uses went up 70% just month ago. Nintendo will ride out current pricing until early next year and then 100% will give substantial price increase of like 150$.
>>742196172The problem is that Sony ported their games to PC and everyone found out they're just not very good.Very expensive? Yes. Very high effort? Absolutely. Top of the line graphics? Definitely. Hollywood-style story telling? All day.Yet as a totally impartial PC gamer who bought and played multiple sony exclusives I can safely say I am literally not missing any of them with the possible exception of Astrobot, but even then I'd need a PS5 controller.
>>742196517>it wont even out sell the PS4>evenWild thing to say when PS4 is a top 5 selling console of all time. But ultimately I think you're right, and I believe PS5 has done nothing to merit whatever success it has already garnered.
>>742196558The horizontal consoles will leak too, just takes longer.
>>742197056You'll never convince some HR cat lady to take up gaming as a hobby. I know that Sony has been chasing after middle-aged women with their games lately. But inclusion does not translate to sales. Just look at the Supergirl box office.
>>742196837Nah, more Indians on apples side and more negros on Sony
>>742196517No, PS5 will definitely outsell the PS4 because the PS6 is going to fail so badly that Sony is going to have to double down on the PS5.
>>742197240The PS5 had a free hit this gen when its basically been the only relevant console on the market and its still not able to surpass the PS4, is the point.
It feels like Playstation would have just died with the ps4 if not for fortnite and genshit pumping even more 30% tax down their ass on top of cod, gta and sportsball tax.And somehow instead of being thankful for the chance they went and budgeted their games around even larger growing leech tax income, because none of them are supposed to make profit, just prestige.
>>742193780The ps2 took 13 years to hit 155 what the fuck are you talking about
>>742196837>Jew nepobabies>Gettho niggersNot sure if they are the same
>>742194687Insomniac deserves the marvel slop slave mines.
>>742197346you also won't convince some 12 year old to buy one when he cal already play roblox on his phone. The demos for consoles haven't changed just aged. Many are aging out, and not many are entering so you just have to squeeze the most affluent of what you have left which is what they've made clear with these statements
>>742197398They said last report they can’t even produce enough PS5 for these holidays demandsIt’s gonna crawl to 100M at best
>>742197442>the only relevant console on the marketI wouldn't even call it that. Sony did next to fuck all with it.
>>742195815Stop responding to AIslop jfc man.
>>742197630The PS5 will continue to sell for another decade PS2-style because of its successor's failure and crawl itself past the PS4.
>>742197398If Sony was smart they'd fucking chill and push PS5 support. Where is the market call for new hardware? It halfway made sense for Nintendo because Switch was weaker than a PS4 and coming up on a decade old, but why should Sony not just...make PS5 games at this point?
The PS6 could be a disaster the likes of which hasn't been seen since the PS3's early days, a perfect storm is brewing to fuck them with the massive pricetag and everything.
>>742196870I'm one of those people, I bought a PS4 and have no plans to go to PS5 or 6. Even if they never ported their games to PC I wouldn't buy one because consoles are too locked down for me.
>>742197056Oh yeah the last years black friday spending was indeed up but it was with a massive loss of the lower and whatever is left of the middle class spending. It was entirely rich whales spending even more. This shitty system of capitalism is creaking at the seems and can not hold out much longer. Something has to break and collaps.
lol
>>742197858Think about how much money sony execs get paid to come up with these retarded strategies.
>>742190647>>They're all in on using AI for game developmentUnderstandable, if you look at how their human devs have been performing.
>>742197858YOU VILL PAY UP
>>742197802Even this gen made little sense for sony. 8th gen was the last console generation and that should have been the end and just release new models for enthusiast users like phones do.
>>742190647>>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6any news on the release window for the ps6? I figure every console manufacturer wants to delay as much as possible to gamble on the semiconductor bubble bursting before 2028
>>742197858They are being very transparent right now - fuck user growth, double down on nickel-and-diming the initiated. Get off Playstation, right the fuck now.>b-but muh GTA VIFuck that, get out NOW.
>>742190647>>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6so $1500 dollars?
>>742198183>to gamble on the semiconductor bubble bursting before 2028wouldnt matter, everyone locked in prices for 5 years even if the bubble pops
>>742198167>consoles should be like smartphones
Nintendo's Wii is the ideal game console. A computer that can play games, made by a game company but with developers making other software for it.
>>742191209Hmmm, deeply integrated for years you say? But I dont see AI disclosures on sonys steam releases. Seems like someone should let valve know sony needs to be more honest.
>>742197858I paid for PS plus for a year once, it allowed me to play a bunch of shitty games and really get to know how shit Snoy movie experience are. I also played ICO and Shadow of the Collosus and Xcom.The bottom line is, Snoy has no game, it's full of DEI and ESG + movie dropouts. It's amazing that they survived this long since 2013.
>>742198183If you believe KeplerL, it’s coming holiday 2027
>>742198167At least with this gen the jump to SSD drives for faster loading is a hardware prospect worth pursuing. I don't know what they need to push for right now, especially in this market and economy.
>>742190647>125 million monthly active users>32 million more PS5s>when Nintendo only had around that amount of active users annually.They're fudging that hard, I don't buy that at all.
>>742198593AI
So where are the hundreds of articles about Sony becoming an AI slop factory?
>>742198593The only thing they can realistically push for a PS6 is fake frames and fake resolution.
>>742198673fuck off fuck off fuck off fuck off you're right but fuck off
>>742198648They count PS4 users and people that play their games on SteamIt’s on their report
>>742198648Sony always fluffs their numbers up. That's not news to anyone, even the snoys who parade those fake numbers around.
>mfw I never bought a PS5
Sounds like Sony wamts to make amother live service game
>>742197530Ted Price leaving is what sealed their fate. I'd be shocked if we get ratchet ever again
>>742190647>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6The steam machine is going to look like a steal in hindsight
>>742190853I'm willing to do my part to keep the economy aliveit's only fair
>>742198774>and people that play their games on SteamAh, that makes more sense. Steam gets a ton.
>>742197725I highly doubt they even are willing to produce that many especially when the cost to do so will increase every year
>>742198692Journalists aren't paid to smear Sony
>>742191047>TLOU2>ratchet>ragnarok/horizon>spiderman2>yoteiAll on pc
>>742198949makes me wonder how ironclad their promise to go back to console exclusives really is
>>742198692They aren't going to say shit because Sony is their friend.
>>742198783Oh, I knew back in 2019 that it was going to be a shitshow. There was an article where Jim Ryan straight up said "PS5 will have less games, but they will be bigger budget projects" and for the life of me I've never been able to find it again. That shit was prophetic though.
>>742199175That was Shawn Layden
>>742199175I remember that. Jim Ryan wanted games that could sell 20m+.
>>742198857They had game planned for 2029 but Rift Apart sold only 3.5 million copies on both PS5 and PC and just broke even on development which is really ass. Leakers said that game is "on hold/incubated" whatever that means. That recent mobile sloppa also bombed and wont even come out of beta before being shut down. We wont see new Ratchet any time soon.
>>742190647>They're all in on using AI for game developmentTo be expected right?
>>742190647>milk the cattle for everything they're worth, fuck emInsanely grim, lmao.
>>742199259>Shawn Layden was still with Sony in 2019How time flies.
>>742196517>Not to mention PS5 emulation is already a thing.it's not
>>742190647>>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitorsThey have genuine morons running this company it seems.
>>742196735At the rate of things ps6 will be around $1500 easily and then ps+ premium will get pushed as mandatory to uncapped download speeds for $100+ games pushing 600 gigs as a standard, while the essential and middle plans will be throttled to fuck and back to nudge you to pay $200+ monthly ontop of all this shit.We're officially in the Snoy Shecklestatiom era next gen
>>742190647Playstation announcing that they're all in on AI games is funny considering Nintendo said they don't like generative AI just a few days back
>>742198593Oh yeah sony has the ps4 shit hdd connect via a slow ass usb.
>>742191047>major tentpole gamea remake or a 15 hours tps isn't major, it's just slop
>>742199275>Jim Ryan wanted games that could sell 20m+.That is not even that unrealistic IF you got a super massive brand that millennials played as kid, which sony owns none of.>inb4 some crash nigga trying to cope
>>742190736this but unironically
>>742199259https://www.cnet.com/culture/sonys-shawn-layden-wants-fewer-bigger-playstation-games/Explains why I couldn't find it. Article's a bit sensationalist about it but he does technically say the quiet part out loud.
>>742198467It survived thanks to ball and gun niggamers.That's why they are terrified of Nintendo right now. The switch 2 is getting the same games that pis5 + Nintendo exclusives.
>>742200421Sony owns Spiderman. Apparently God of War sort of hacks that too, at least the 2018 one did.
>>742200851They don't own the video game rights to spiderman. They still have to license it from Disney.
>>742190647Get fucked tranny snoy niggers. Sony about to rape their gun and ball cattle for all their worth
>>742200851>Sony owns SpidermanJesus Anon how do you still get this wrong?And no, Spiderman did sell that much on the ps4 but the 2nd game was forcefully pushed over 11m at launch with underpriced bundles to meet marvels insane contract and then died out on legs.GoW is also not in the ps4 seller era anymore.
>>742200940The more you know.
>>742198692It's ok when sony does it, anon.
>>742200991It's a common mix up since Sony has owned the film rights since the late 90s.
>>742190647>release one major game a yearWooooowww
>>742200991Because Spiderman is an IP rights clusterfuck.
>>742198692Don't big the hand that feeds you
>>742190647publicly traded companies were a mistake
>>742198993>release a tentpole title every yearhow did your post negate this?
>>742201097Even then they don't really own it. They have to make a movie every 3 years or something or else the license reverts back to Disney. Disney control the story too.
This shit just makes no sense as a business model anymore, nothing about video games makes sense anymore. Hardware is getting worse whether it's PC or console, but it's also becoming too expensive, and the games running on them run and look worse than ever, and for what? The latest entry into a genre that's been done to death for at least a decade? What more profitability could you possibly squeeze out of the video game industry that isn't just "give up and sell gacha+battle passes?" If you were a video game exec and needed to compete with the past 30 years of awesome games that a potential customer could get for next to nothing, well, how would you? Assuming you needed to sell them your 999 dollar console PLUS at least 500 dollars worth of games?
>>742201591Shhhhhhh. Question nothing. Just consume the products.
>>742201465>Disney control the story too.Only because of the MCU deal, they own the movie rights entirely otherwise.
>>742201465Disney owns everything but the movie rights on that timed contract yeah.Most importantly perhaps the merch rights. That's where the massive money is from kids and adults alike. It's also why sony desperately tries to make a Spiderverse happen over and over.
>>742190647>switch headquarters to California >sony takes a huge nose diveLike pottery
>>742201591Just release a Sony PlayStation Guillotine
>>742201591I kind of feel this way about all media, we've run out of new stories to tell. At least with vidya there's another layer being "gameplay" but the most mechanically interesting games are being made by teenagers for $5
>>742199318From Wikipedia:>In the same leak it was revealed that over 2.7 million copies of the game were shipped (sell-in) and turned a profit with $145 million in net sales by February 2022. Further leaks revealed that Rift Apart had sold over 3.97 million units by its second calendar year (June 2023).
It’s funny because the Imsomniac leak showed Disney gets like a 70% cut of the sales of Marvel games and if they don’t reach certain quota they lose the rights
>>742201591The business model spiraled out of control when western economies were running on autopilot and kicking the can down the road. We have been overdue for a market correction for a decade now and the economic recession is the initiator.
>>742201591If you are not poor games have never looked better, and we are just one or two years from the budget to make AAA games going down with things like DLSS 5.This is just sony conceding defeat to PC because they were beaten to AI rendering so them releasing remakes and reducing the cost for remakes and remaster to 1/10 with AI instead of trying to fight off a losing battle against pc gaming.
>>742201796I knew something was wrong when they shuttered Gravity Rush 2's servers as soon as they did. Only went downhill from there.
>>742191065they deserve it for being such a cancerous fan base
>>742201591>What more profitability could you possibly squeeze out of the video game industry that isn't just "give up and sell gacha+battle passes?"That's what the smart people are doing.
>>742201909>games have never looked betterI have seen very few games from the last 20 years look as aesthetically compelling and technically competent as Silent Hill 3.
>>742201909>If you are not poor games have never looked better, and we are just one or two years from the budget to make AAA games going down with things like DLSS 5.With any luck, you'll end up beheaded in the future.
>>742201670I would if I could. But it's 500 dollars before tax if you want a Switch 2, and if you find it MSRP, then 70 more, again MSRP, if you want Pokemon. And then all you get for all that fucking trouble is the same damn game that released 20 separate times.
>>742202132You don't pay us subscription fees to think, anon. Now eat your slop.
>>742190647>they will now focus on “profitability per user”>snoys
>>742190647>>742191065Exactly what they have shown with GTA6. Doubling the accounts you need to play online and keeping the game digital only, doubling ARPU (Nahasapeemapetilon).
>>742202026Those are subjective metrics. We are talking about AAA games in general. People just have nostalgia for piss filters, the average AAA game slop release in the console golden age form 2006 onwards was just as creatively bankrupt chasing console money
>>742202126>Devs and studios can finally stop having to hire actors, mocaps, and hollywood e-celebs to have the edge graphically >AA studios now have access to top tier AAA graphics>Finally game development goes back to being a 2 cadence and studios can focus their budget in gameplay >No console market means they can finally afford to target mature audiencePlease tell me this is somehow bad because reddit told you the green leather jacket is bad even though he is the only one pushing graphics forward since the PS3 and xbox 360 started to use AMD graphics cards
>>742198993They are made by Sony though, so PC players pay Sony for those games
>>742194980Yeah, if you can't game with 20% more polygons you might just as well quit.
>>742194980I have over 1000 games in my Steam library, I'll just play those
>>742202625>AA studios now have access to top tier AAA graphicsBrother what AA studios are even left? Everyone got bought up, stripped of talent, their IPs milked to death, and then shuttered.
>>742197056That's Gaben buying a yacht, not Gaben buying 5000 Playstations.
>>742202943Thats the cycle and the industry cleansing. DLSS 5.0 is still one or two years away. The moment is avaliable you'll see tons of creative smaller studios being able to do something like Expedition 33
>We do not plan to provide specific number targets on MAU in the coming years, but in the long term, we are confident there is room to grow our MAU in the PlayStation ecosystem. This is why we are investing in the future of the platform to make it more accessible to a broader rangeof users.Translation: We got no growth prospect but hope it will happen anyway. And also we leave PC but hope to grow on PC because uhhhhhThis shit is brainfrying, imagine having to read this stuff for a living. No wonder investors are all braindead.
>>742190826ONE GAME
You could make a good game for a modest budget and then sell 5-10m copies of it, rather than spend hundreds of millions on some blockbuster piece of shit that somehow manages to sell 3m through sheer force of marketing.
>>742201975Autism-chama, it's okay. Everybody has seen your Monopoly screenshot by now, so you can stop posting it in every single thread. Whatever really important mission you're on? It has been accomplished.
>>742203234I can tell you are poor. Who cares if you make lots of money? All that matters is making ALL of the money. And sony is gonna spin that slot machine until a game that makes all of the money possible pops out.
>>742203058Isn't DLSS5 coming out this Fall?
>>742196369if you've already spent money on those games, you're much more likely to continue to do so. no one said a word when they raised the price of playstation plus for everyone, except the yearly package purchasers; they're absolutely going to milk the true believers because they're already all bought into the ecosystem.
>>742203234But that is not money fast enough. Need to money faster, otherwise shareholder brains like>>742203309yell at me.
>>742195993Steam machine and PC don't even have physical disc gamesHow do you sell your second hand Steam games when you have finished them?
Straight up lying. Unless they mean no more such things in the future.
can they just port bloodborne to PC alreadywould be the first competent and desirable thing they've done in like 20 years
>>742190647>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.I wonder if they would stand a chance at competing with Steam if they went all out and ported their entire back catalog to their own Playstation PC client as well as releasing every new game at the same time as the console version.
>>742203445Yes, but it will take a year at least until the RTX 60 series until people can upgrade and use it, You'll need a decent install base until studios can really make a decision as bold as to cut down the cost and fully rely on DLSS 5.0 to fix things lo lipsync, animations,etc
>>742190647>>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”And that's where the death spiral begins.>no one needs is jumping in so time to milk the existing paypiggies to make line go up>the longer this keeps on the less people will stay with you while more potential new customers see you and walk away>rinse and repeat until bankruptcy
>>742190647>They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yeargrim.
>>742190853And snoyggers will happily pay because they're addicted. I know a guy who makes like 30k a year and he "plays" like 12 hours of shitstation 5 a day, pays full monthly sub, buys cosmetics in every awful live service piece of shit. Dude doesnt realize that a major part of the reason he is poor is his vidy addiction. I'm sure he'll pay 1500 bucks for a shitstation 6 too even if he has to finance it.Sony is right to increase the prices; they've got countless people like this who are totally dependent on them and they know it.
>>742203995Is anything changing?
>>742203973Their movie games already had a tough time finding an audience on PC and people slapped their shit in for just trying to force having a Sony account on top of that.Their games aren't that desired by the PC audience.
>they maxed out on portal servers during holidaysTheir server farm must be tiny.
>>742201591Consoles don't work as a business model anymore. PC can weather this by being actually useful. Gaming is still awesome, consoles and AAA are not.
>>742204330>and people slapped their shit in for just trying to force having a Sony account on top of that.That literally had no impact. You could even track the steam charts when it went live and nothing happened lmao.
>>742204436Kek this is such cope. Pretty sure the only ganes worth playing in the last 10 years came out on nintendo consoles
>>742201961Do you have the archive for that fucking thread?
>>742204554Funny, Nintendo hasn't been good in 10 years and had been declining for another 10 years prior to that. The last good Nintendo game, that they didn't even make, was KI:U. Nintendo gets mogged by indies these days.
>>742204153the main reason they fucked up the current generation release cadence is a bunch of live service projects that were scrapped. not sure what the plan is for the next gen when production costs and dev time are expected to increase dramatically, and do they even have the capacity to output that 1 AAAA title per year, which is still fucking pathetic and beyond grim compared to all previous generations before ps5. a simple solution would be to focus on graphically enhanced rereleases and remakes (they probably will if god of war trilogy remake turns successful), but in this case they fucked up immensely by shutting down Bluepoint.
>>742204750sure thing pablo
>>742204554Get lost, manchild, adults are talking
>>742190647>“profitability per user”Playstation is FUCKED and even Sony knows it. They are going to milk their audience dry, till they shut it down like Xbox. Like i said before, Nintendo will be the only console maker left making hardware.
>>742190647so they'll focus on bleeding you dry
Okay now post the nintendo financial report. They are also going all in on AI and pushing $80 games
>>742205065Nintendo is the only one who hasnt lost the plot. They still make good ganes in a low budget. That's all you have to do but for whatever reason no one else wants to do it.
Look up Betamax. That's where Playstation will end up. A niche expensive piece of shit that literally no one will buy, but Sony will keep making them until nobody buys them and then its dead.
>>742205169>They are also going all in on AINo they don't. Post proof then snoygger
>>742205169I can post it but you’re gonna chimp out spam the board with CP like you always do
>>742190647one major game each year?so you just kinda need to hope whatever they release appeals to you or that's another year wait for you
>>742205247"Nintendo will do it too" is the Snoy faggot coping mechanism since 2017. Straight out lying is their coping medicine. The last thing I'lll want to be as a gamer is a Playstation fan.They will live through the rise and destruction of the brand.
Reminder that Playstation 5 is selling Wii U monthly numbers right now. The console is dead as fuck.
>>742190647
So it's gonna be a shit show but who do they compete with? Where can you get the console experience? Next gen for Xbox is do or die and pc is even more expensive. I really wanted 6o get the physical game experience so I was thinking about getting a ps6 but the margins on physical are lower, no way they keep that stuff going.
>>742190853lol then woke is dead because they need to pander to their fans to actually get money out of them now
>>742205703No. they will still be around and they will go down with the ship. When Sony INEVITABLY says, "We will stop making hardware" all they Snoys will say is "Nintendo will do it too."
>>742190853I'd bet $50 Marathon's "small but dedicated playerbase" caused Hulst to move the goal post into this
>>742205169Curious about this. They will raise prices again by Q2 next year but I'm curious about everything else.
>>742205789>Where can you get the console experience?This is where you Snoy faggots are in for a rude awakening. Gaming is NOT necessary for survival. People will just tell Sony to fuck off. Japan already did it.
>>742206114Calm down nigga, I'm just a potential consoomer and i just don't know what to get besides the pc I already own.
>>742205169Here are some tidbits from their FR>Raise employee salary by 10% in Japan>Hiring 300+ new employees globally>No interest in using gen AI, as it would devalue "the brand" and be a "copyright hell">DEI mentions is being actively scrubbed from their program>Construction of new R&D lab with 1000+ new positions expected to be done in 2028.
>>742207367>No interest in using gen AI, as it would devalue "the brand" and be a "copyright hell"Good
>>742205873To be fair, Nintendo does always follow in Sony's footsteps, just a generation or so behind.
They should make online free if they want to compete with PC.A college student can't afford 800$ hardware, 89.99$ games, 120$ online subscription.
>>742204750>>742205039And your are still mas about botw.
>>742207367
>>742207684Botw did suck ass and kill real zelda in favor of ubislop, yeah.
>>742207779Yep. Mad.
>>742207779ah yes, because all ubisoft games are Far Cry 2....
>>742207836Nintendo used to be good, so yeah, it's unfortunate.
lmao the niggers are getting their heads curbstomped even by journos now
>>742207842Bloated empty worlds with copy pasted filler garbage are ubislop by design.
>>742207367Pls... Delet...
>>742207443Sure thing
>>742204419Overwhelming majority of PSN runs on Microsofts Azure anon so yeah they indeed are tiny in that regard and massive reason why they cant even push cloud based shit so thats why they say they're not interested.
>>742207918>bloated empty worldand now you are contradicting yourself within 3 words, thats impressive
>>742207994t. brown thirdie who doesn't know the definition of bloated
>>742207994snoys aren't very intelligent, anon.They are good just for sucking dog dicks and telling lies.
>>742204898>>742205065I don't know why it has to be this way. Sony could just invest more in modest games with modest turnout. The one game people look back fondly on with PS5 is Astro Bot. It's not the kind of project that modern Sony really wants to champion, but it's the kind of project that put Playstation on the map as a brand in the first place. I wish Sony would just do what made Playstation great again.
>>742208146Blatant samefag. Do you need the definition of blatant too?
>>742196689>>742197243>no sourcestupid niggers
>>742208128We don't sign our posts here but thanks for marking yourself as an ESL.
>>742208210>n-no uYou got wrecked.
>>742190647>they will now focus on “profitability per user”Get ready to whale, paypiggies
>>742208207You're retarded. Just google PS5 liquid metal and you will see for yourself.
>>742208259Playstation's about to make gacha monetization look like a fucking joke.
>>742208186You are projecting, dog dicksucker.
>>742208365>doesn't know what projection means eitherlol
>>742208317>still no sourceThe only thing leaking is the cum out of your asshole niggermutt
>>742208582anon this is a widely known issue, are you gonna deny joycon drift was an issue aswell?
>>742208742>joycon driftDoesn’t happen if you’re not a retarded gorilla nigger
>>742208162I lost all faith in their western studios (they are consumed with progressive left politics and woke activism slop) and japan studio is no more. but I would at least give astro bot studio a chance to bring back ape escape.
KEK. Going by the comments here, almost nobody cares about Sony "going all in in AI". Luddit lost.
>>742208582https://www.guru3d.com/story/ps5-shutdowns-linked-to-liquid-metal-cooling-material-leak/https://tronicsfix.com/blogs/news/all-about-ps5-liquid-metalhttps://videocardz.com/newz/silent-playstation-5-slim-refresh-targets-liquid-metal-spill-and-overheating-concernsNigger cockroach snoy subhuman. Sony finally "fixed" that in newest CFI-2116 Slim models that started manufacturing in last december so only half a year ago.
>>742201591corpos realized the gaming market topped, so they are bailing out. When a company does this kind of nonsense moves its because they are performing a controlled demolition. I wouldn't discard if the current CEO already placed leveraged shorts on PlayStation.
>>742209058Its not exactly surprising. Sony is a tech company and they are doing terribly so of course they will yolo it all on AI hoping it will magically make them infinite money.
>>742209105>blogposts Nice source cumpooter tranny PCjeet. kys before you die of AIDS and dysentery
>>742207942Micro scale, Nintendo follows on the macro.
742209405Damn, snoys truly are mentally ill lowest life forms in the universe. Beating bingtendos in that is a notable achievement.
>>742204649nah, the archive is currently down. once it's back just input the text on the image and search for opening posts, you'll find it really quick
>PCjeets literally can’t stop shitting cumlel
>>742201591This is the natural result when you chase out ALL of the talent in favor of diversity.
>>742209782Retard
>>742191209>less about cost efficiencykek>best usecase example is synthetic assets for "early placeholders"double kek yeah we all know how much finding the yellow exclamation mark texture was holding up game dev time
>>742190647>profitability per userTHIS IS YOUR CHANCE SONYGROESDONT BUY ANYTHING PLEASE
>>742195993Nintendo leads. Others follow.
>>742208873The only semi-ace in the hole Sony might have at this point is Media Molecule. I can't see them going full AAAA, they aren't that kind of dev. I'm surprised Sony hasn't axed them, honestly.
all of this just says to me they are perfectly aware ps6 launch is going to be a disaster due to the component pricing I am expecting every single game of them to be ps5/ps6 for the entirety of the ps6 generationand honestly, i don't think it even matters anymore for leaps in graphics
I guess I can stomach a 1000 dollars console if the specs are very good.Like have a proper cpu that lasts longer than the ps5 one and I know I'll use the ps6 for 7 years without worrying about 30 fps gameplay.
>>742190647>diverse game title portfolio
>>742190826It'd be a considerable improvement over now.
>>742210467anon that pricepoint is not because the specs are good, that pricepoint is because ram and SSD prices have spiralled out of controlthe ps6 will be 1200 one year later
>>742205169>b-b-but Nintendo...>>742207367Based
>>742210551>the ps6 will be 1200 one year laterMore like 1600
>>742190647>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”Shouldn't "retaining the current userbase by offering great service" be the number one priority if you fail at growing your user base?
>>742207895I don’t like this trend of professional news outlets writing headlines like teenagers who have never had a sincere thought in their life.
>>742210723ofcourse but this is just corpospeak for>we expect absolutely no new consumers from launching the ps6 at 1000 dollars but we cannot afford to sell at a loss
>>742210723It would be the case if this was any other company. Sony is run by idiots with a gambling addiction.
>>742190647>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6i truly, genuinely cannot wait for them to show off a new system for over $1000 and for there to be literally zero noticeable graphical improvements over the ps5. retards will still buy it, of course
>>742210910the only thing the ps6 will have serious improvements in is the cpuwe have plateaud in graphics
>>742195993>Just buy a PCThat'll be 8k for minimum graphics options, thank you Sam Altman
>>742195486>Just hang back and play smaller, reasonably priced games with reasonable hardware requirementssome tips? your favorites?
i think the ps6 will launch at 900 without a disc drive, they will eat two games worth of costs on itthen one year later it will be upped to 1099
>>742205169Nintendo has said no to anything ai related constantly.
>>742203675What a retarded point. How do you sell your GTA 6 disk when you're done with it? You do realise that whatever rockstar does sets the precedent right? How do you think they'll do dual ownership with their playstation handheld device if they can't verify you own the game since there is no way to verify you own the disk if your main console is off or if they do an xbox one 12 hour check in shit, which they obviously wont do? Physical media on consoles is dead by next gen. Accept it.
>>742211191Never mind the snoy. He's projecting.
>>742210996We've been at a plateau for about a decade. Just like phones and movie CGI. People have been waiting for the "a-ha moment" where PS5 graphics look noticeably better than PS4 graphics. That moment is never going to happen. The new frontier is AI integration. PS6 and Xbox Helix will have AI assistants baked into the hardware.
Damn, Xbox and Sony dorks are just constantly losingOne will soon not have a console and the other is openingly stating they will begin scamming youNintendo is the last of its kind
>>742211191>>742211315Ok but they are doing $80 games. Mario Kart, now Fire Emblem (lmfao in what universe is this slop worth 80) and you can bet your ass Smash 6 too.
So Sony is just giving up.
>>74221170514M copies sold
Please please please Im on my fucking knees here PLEASE GOD let nintendo fuck up even harder than this.
>Please please please Im on my fucking knees here PLEASE GOD let nintendo fuck up even harder than this.
>>742211692
>>742211750Of what? Mario Kart? How does that have anything to do with it not even being close to worth 80?GTA6 is 100 and will sell 5x as much
>>742211829Considering the OP it should be Playstation aiming a grenade launcher at his own mouth.
>>742211720>future tenseThey gave up before PS5 launched, they're just running on fumes instead of goodwill now.
>>742211867>b-b-but GTA6It's all you have at this point and it's so pathetic especially when it's coming to Switch 2 and PC
>>742203675no one on PC gives a fuck about reselling gamesyou can go on GOG, buy a game and copy it as many times as you want or pirate it and copy as many times as you wantinfinite supply right there at your fingertips
>>742190647>They aren’t interested in cloud gaming besides the Portalthis is a good thingbut they are also fucking up physical by holding the Bluray patent hostage, instead of letting it go like DVD did, they could gte so much money by just saving physical and giving the world cheap Blurays and bluray players everywhere
>>742211705whats funny with these "80 dollar games" is that since the digital version is gonna be cheaper, almost every physical store is gonna price match with the digital price, I am yet to see any 80 euro Switch 2 games in stores, yet I have seen well over 95-100 euro PS5 games.
>>742211692Nintendo has fucked up too with game key cards, $80 Mario Kart, and a $450 tablet. Thing is, everyone else is projectile shitting so hard that their fuckups look sane in comparison.
>>742190647>people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.What the fuck are they smoking!
>>742190647Haven't bought Sony first party games in years.Death Stranding games don't count so the last first party one I bought was Ghost of Tsushima 1 whenever that was released.
>>742207367>DEI mentions is being actively scrubbed from their programWhat did they mean by this?
>>742212070That must be some japan specific thing because they live in cardboard box sized apartments over there.
>>742212041the best analogy is that whenever nintendo shits themselves they just change their underwear and keep going, whenever PS and Xbox shits their pants they all scream and rape innocent people while covering them in shit before killing them violently in pure retard rage.
>>742190647So they have decided to start gutting their users for short term gain.I wonder where that decision came from.
>>742211829Replace Nintendo with PC. Consoles are all blowing their brains out.
>>742212128DEI has been fully integrated
>>742212029Yep
>>742212262
>>742212262$1000 minimum gabebox
>>742190647Remember to short sony and nintendo stocks friends free money
>>742212279>Port the same 2 games for the 6th time
>>7422123865th time*
>>742212304Add nintendo, unless you think they make consoles out of sticks and rocks.
>>742194029Does anyone remember that time when people were claiming that Microsoft was going to make playing Xbox games online free?
>>742212272At Sony? It absolutely shows.
>>742212272they uncensored Sharla in the Switch 2 version of Xenoblade, so no.
>>742212386*port the same 2 YouTube videos for 6th time
>>742190647>>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6They are fucking dead.The ps6 is going to be like 1500.
>>742190647all of these are smart desu
>>742212304Steam is the least affected by thisDeck is a failed exp just like their VR. but their store will be alive and wellswap it with nintendo since they have nothing outside of their console. At least sony and microsoft have other sectors kek
>>742212430>add n-n-nintendo pls...
>>74221175012M from bundles.
>>742193780>Even Nintendo is starting to lose subs too.You're saying that like Nintendo had a lot of them to begin with. It always had the smallest amount of subs.
>>742212512Considering nintendo's stock is in the gutter while steam keeps breaking records, it's only fair if steam is in there.
>>742212504>Steam is the least affected by thisBecause it's pc they're the most affected.
>>742212537Which Nintendo profits from, unlike Horizon Zero Interest.>>742212537(again)>>742212512
>>742212609>consoles are made out of pixie dustWhy are you people so dumb and stupid
>>742212504>since they have nothing outside of their console>two billion dollar movies>theme parks>merch>LEGO setsyou are retarded.
>>742212609Everyone already has a gaming pc.
>>742212591Anon, their stock went back to the pre new console levels and stabilised ages ago.
>>742212591>staring at the lineDebt and rent free.
>>742212436I kept telling those idiots that Microsoft popularized that trend and won't throw away that stable revenue. A leader like Peter Moore might given how he navigated 360's RROD and spun the console into a success through sheer goodwill, but the days of such leadership are decades in the past now. Microsoft WILL hold that lifeline.
>>742212697Tendies don't lol
>>742212591>mu-muh stonksoh no! not the speculative market that has zero effect on the company!
>>742212682Do you think PCs are just magic boxes or something? Do you have any idea how much consumer ram costs nowadays?
Uh oh, someone's not taking Sony's suicide note well.
A shame the proper report talk at the start is now drowned out by the retard famitsu OP mod samefagging with himself for hours.
>>742212708>and stabilised ages ago.It's a fucking cliff lmao
>>742190647Damn, time to short Sony. The failure of these bugs will make me richer.
This is the part where >>742212591 replies with>Wow! This pissed off the tendies!
>>742212734Then why are they public tardo?
>>742211973>implyingI'm not a snoygger. Just someone who realizes the $80 trash isn't worth it
>>742212686All of those was done because shareholders know how risky it is for all of your eggs to be in one basket, they knew they had to diversify.It's still going to be a massive massive hit for them
>>742212754Damn, you are literally too stupid to even understand that post.
>>742212860literally does not change what I said, dipshit.
>>742197379Thqt stupid nigger is still doing the "BUT THE STOCKS" retards dance.He get 's corrected and shamed every thread but he has to keep trying because he has literally nothing else to try. What a pathetic and sad faggot (laughs)
>>742191065Those cultists would rather get quarter'd and dolar'd.
>>742212803>proper report talkSure bud>f*mitsu thread out of nowhererent free
>>742212463>They are fucking dead.probably. but that really remains to be seen. the steam machine will be a good litmus test to see if consoles can be sold without being subsidized. like, if there are enough steam cultists to buy the "console" for pc gaming, then there are probably enough sony cultists that will do the same for playstation.
>>742212754>Do you have any idea how much consumer ram costs nowadays?What do you think is in consoles you neanderthal
What about the gamesWhat if you make some good games that give good rep to your brand?What if you stop replacing any and all male leads for obnoxious counterparts?What if you stop the quippy marvel tier humor on every single one of your exclusives? (and you don't have that many nowadays). I don't see this changing with laufey, intergalactic or whatever elseWhat if you stop spending 200 million per shitty live service project that's destined to immediately die?How are these questions not asked at these meetings? Who the hell says "yeah, we're gonna do all that and we'll be good to go"?
>>742212858Wow, look at tendies SEETHING lamo!
With Final Fantasy going completely multiplat I now have zero personal reason to ever own a playstation product. Their "tentpoles" meant something back in the day but now it's guaranteed slop of the highest order.
>>742212910>I'm not a snoyggerThen stop acting like one.
>>742212804No it's at around 7000 yen which is what it was before people started talking about the switch 2.You really don't know anything, do you.
>>742212934Yeah it does, cope.
lmao Playstation_JP is now under fire for comparing the PS5Pro version of the Black Flag remake with the PC version of the original version in order to make the PS5 version look better, niggy gonna get sued yet again.
>>742191195If it means hearing pcniggers seethe for the coming 8 yrs im all in for a price hike
Sonybros how do we bounce back from this? I honestly feel too demoralized to falseflag as tendies anymore.
>>742213102It's a fucking cliff dude lmaoFar as the market is concerned the switch 2 is a massive failure
>>742213142Stupid faggot, you already were taught many times how it works, but you are too mentally challenged to understand
>>742213241this but PS5
>>742190647>They are giving up on increasing their monthly active users for the first time in 10 years, they will now focus on “profitability per user”This means they have no more userbase to extract from because everyone is literally moving to Switch 2 and Steam.>They're all in on using AI for game development I am good with this, honestly this is par for the course in the industry due to inflation from COVID. >They aren’t interested in cloud gaming besides the PortalI understand. Cloud Gaming is more of a 15 year thing, not a recent thing because of Fiber Penetration and Cloud Servers not being common throughout the world.>They don't plan to sell hardware at a loss, there won’t be a subsidized PS6Leaks said as much. I truly do believe we will see a 1k PS6 at this rate with nothing much to show for it. RAM might be expensive alongside NAND but believe me, other things will be going up into the next year and fall back down by 2028.>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.I swear to fucking god the BRAND will save us is retarded. >Rather than focus on growing their userbase, they're hoping to increase the amount that they monetize the existing oneThis tells me they know all they have is Gun-Ball-Battle Royal Games to hold them over. >They plan to release at least one major tentpole game each yearGod they are full of shit.
>>742213241We get it; you don't know what you're talking about and are too stupid to understand stocks.
>>742213241Yes, you are a stupid faggot, we already know.
>>742190647>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors.HAHAHAHAHAHA absolute insanity.
>>742213328Whatever fabricated reality you want to live within in that little head of yours my man
>>742213418you're the one living in your own little world where Nintendo is failing.
>>742190647>one major tentpole game each yearPost your ABSOLUTE state of face RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>>742190647>Their answer to "You're losing Playstation fans to PC" is that people prefer monitors to TVs and so they're releasing Playstation-branded PC components like monitors. How does the person who said this have a job?
>>742213418Would you realise that you are a stupid faggot if you didn't eat breakfast today ?
>>742213446I can judge the results objectively. You've got nintendick so far up your butt it speaks for you like a sock puppet
>>742213218I’ll buy a PlayStation gaming monitor
Looks the snoys' programming is working. >Sony receives criticism>redirect to Nintendo and point at the line
sonysisses... the pcbulls are making fun of us again...
>>742213521I had a wonderful breakfast, but thank you for asking :)
>>742213504>>742213393>nintentrannies seething they don’t have a Nintendo brand gaming monitorjej
It's insane how Sony's in a perfect position to hang back and hunker down on supporting PS5, and yet they apparently can't just do that.
>>742213154Oh they're scared.
just 10-15 years ago, we had special edition consoles of every mayor game releasePokemonzelda consoleshalo consolesseveral colors of ds and 3ds and controllersnow.. we only have one option, and a expensive one at that
>>742213673It would make sense the PS5 generation has barely started, but Sony and good ideas have been a foreign concept for a long time.
As long as those monitors are not smart integrated shit, it might be cool desu
>>742198096>>742197858>Console Manufacturers: Guys we are losing everyone to fucking PC>PC stores: we are losing everyone to Valve and Steam>"Why do you not just offer feature parity with Valve and try to be a user driven store to then extract money by creating good will">Console Manufacturers: No we will just keep prices high, extract money by making them pay to go online, keep ads on our UI and make soul less UI's>PC Stores: We will just call Valve a Monopoly and cry foul than invest into our infrastructure and compete, it's cheaper that wayI am convinced we have the worst industry imaginable in Video Games. 99% who are Investors, who are operating the top of our industries have never played games, they do not have any idea how Video Games work, they do not know how to make a competitive service, they just wish to extract money and cry about it. If this was the Restaurant Industry, or Anime Industry, or even funny enough Live Service industry, they would do a better job.
>>742213504step one: be japanesestep two: be oldThere you go, no one can question any of your shitty ideas
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>>742213673Their shareholders demand infinite growth. If you aren't increasing profits, you're losing money.
>>742213465
>>742196757It's quite astonishing how retarded these Western media companies have become since 2016.They are completely detached from reality.
>>742190647Nintendomi...!!!!
>>742213083I'm not. Snoyggers would bend over and buy anything and defend anything. I literally said the $80-100 slop isn't worth it
>>742214082E-Eric won…
Send this to sony, for fuck sake.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunk_cost
>>742213528sorry for your brain problems.
>>742201857All you guys need to do is pay into Indies, start digging. I mean there is >Motorslice>Assault Spy>Bomb Rush Cyberfunkat least that I found I liked. Maybe also follow Indie Live Expo on the Youtube channel and keep looking for hidden gems with the mountain of shovelware. You are bound to find a few games worth trying out.
>>742213657It's really hard to feel sorry when snoytrannoids like you get fleeced like lobotomised sheeps due to your attitude and extreme NDS
>>742201062The leaked Insomniac shit says they're paying incredible amounts just for the license.
Meanwhile
I can't believe tendies really believe they can avoid the rampocalypsethe price increases will come for you too
>>742212128They scrubbed it and reworded it to appease Trump and the freaks who get triggered by it. The actual reworded text implies nothing is changing.
>>742213465I haven't cared about a Sony release since Ghost of Tsushima, and been excited for one since the MediEvil remake.
>>742214432that's right, keep deflecting. good little snoy.
>>742214497CopePost it.
>>742214432>increaseart is gonna be dirt cheap since you will fire all the world class artist for your shitty gibly faced wojaks
>>742214432>b-but NINTENDO
>>742214497care to explain Sharla being uncensored in Xenoblade switch 2 edition?
>>742214432Yeah, it's going up $50 in September.
>>742214525Same but Bloodborne in both cases.The move to California and the killing of Japan Studios killed the brand for me.
>>742214224reminder that Sunk cost fallacy is also called the concorde syndrome
>>742214432Two more weeks right?
>>742214607You can still see a little bit of her areola in one of her outfits?
According to retardera Sony actually wants Switch players to switch over to their 1 exclusive per year box
>>742214374They were able to capture the cuck and the black audience thanks to how they pegged Peter for Miles. Was worth it for them.
>>742213795Lmao, they absolutely will fill the monitors with ads. Thats how tv makers make money nowadays and why the monitor tech has stagnated
>>742214614If prices for ram keeps bloating until late 2027, I expect one more 50 dollar increase besides the one you mentioned.
>>742214704no confirmed for two more months and then again after january probably
>>742214432>the price increaseswhy would the price increase if they continue to do the same controlled low budget process?????
This is fault of the shitposter that spams out of date sales info in famitsu threads and falseflag threads. That asshole is cursed, everytime he shitposts using Sony (when he doesn't even care about Sony, is just "ammo" for him) the universe punishes Sony, it has been like two months non stop of bad news for Sony which seems to be directly proportional to how much that asshole shitpost.
>>742214841Good
>>742214841The truth is that God hates snoys and Sony.
>>742214816> ProblySnoytrannies wishful thinking, as usual
>>742214414There is leaks from Nintendo that they do use AI. They use Copilot from Microsoft. It's just it's more background tasks than it is front facing. Besides Genie is out of the bottle or as they say Pandora's Box is open.
>>742214824>controlledIt's not controlled if they just buy parts from other companies.
>>742214993>leaks* it appeared to me in a dream
Tendies are SHOOK. Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, plays best on PS6 Go.
>>742190736T R V K ERVKE
>>742214781Possibly. Nintendo can be retard stubborn about these kinds of things.
>>742214934actually take a minute out of your day to read the news you fucking retardevery single device that uses ram and/or has SSD storage will balloon in priceMobile phone devs, xbox, the ps5 and 6, the switch 2 and all variants of pc gaming will repeatedly face price increases all the way into late 2028
>>742215068post the full image
>>742215049Nintendo wishes it was dreaming. The leaks happened due to a Data Breach basically.
>>742214642>killing of Japan StudiosGravity Rush 2 was almost 2 years after Bloodborne. The Last Guardian was a few months before that.
>>742215236>NoAso it was just marketing teams using copilot for background shit? Nothing used for the games themselves?
>>742215307correct.
>>742214774they went to far now, they are getting suedeven 8000 screencaps per minute, eating up your connection, sending them to dozens of serves, including china, and not being able to sign out easily was too much even for normies
>>742215307Yeah basically but you indirectly hinted at that Nintendo does not use AI. When in fact they clearly do. The thing is they just never state it. 99% of the industry does.
>>742214361Its really hard to not feel sorry for nintentrannies because they won’t ever get a PlayStation gaming monitor
>>742202625Poopoo in the loo, rajesh.
>>742215307Yes. A lot of times, it's for marketing, design, prototyping, and basically background tasks. They also use it for code and development. But honestly nothing front facing. You will not see them do anything like GenAI Art or crazy stuff like that because it's not popular.
>>742215436when people talk about devs using AI they mean generating code, models, and textures for games.
>>742215595I agree. I should have clarified that. It's not GenAI it's basically for Modeling, Coding, Rigging, Textures and background tasks.
>>742215595You're kidding yourself if you think they aren't vibe coding. Nobody wants to kill themselves wasting time writing algorithms from scratch. Still that's different from just prompting Claude and letting it work overnight
>>742215214>nintendo allowing playstation 1 referencesholy SOUL
>>742215731it's hard to describe a complex algorithm with words, while being educated in logic and maths makes its a matter of minute to code.This shit is retards that believe calculators make you nasa scientists all over again
>>742215731>T-they are definitely vibe coding!!!Snoys have lost it
And to think people laughed at the Vita. At least that shit had a few actual first party games. If only we knew how bad things were going to get.
>>742215731from everyone I have heard within the industry, AI vibe coding is becoming more and more of a hassle and it takes way more time to correct it and clean it up than it is to write code from scratch, I dont think Nintendo even got on the ball on it before it got exposed as just being overall worse.
>>742215976It's very early days with Vibe Coding, it's basically where Agentic AI is. Where we are going to see problems and errors, but as time goes on more feedback is given and corrections happen it will be amazing in a few years. I also did hear Cursor is doing a wonderful job as a competitor to Claude Code, although it is a late start for them. Codex is going to take a year to take off as well.
>Snoys have a massive meltdown on MondayOh boy we are off to a long week
>>742216548It's a bad day, Sony basically just laid out a blueprint of their plans for the immediate future and dire doesn't begin to describe it. (You) are cattle to them at best, and that's if they even consider spitting on you.
>>742216548QUICK! SPAM THE NINTENDO STOCK THREADS! LOOK EVERYONE! THE LINE WENT DOWN I THINK!
>>742211765-795377331 karma to ziony.
>>742214432Some might be that deluded, but most know. They're just getting their gloating and shitposting in while they can. They'll flip and cope and defend just like all the other times nintendo's screwed them.
>>742214993The president literally said they won't use AI for game development, so the leaks still confirm this as true.
>>742212375I wish i could get some Nintendo stocks... They are hard to buy from this shithole.
>>742214824What control? They're entirely dependent on other corporations who now view consoles as worthless.
>>742212731I literally do, unlike you.I'm still waiting for your playtimes.
>>742213657I play my PC games on a 65" oled with 120fps refresh rate.The fuck I want a monitor for?
>>742213218I'll suck dogdicks.
>>742215153snoytranny cope
Embarrassing thread for both Sony and Nintendo fanatics. Disgusting.
