Flowery's because he's a MUGEN cheapie
>>742226658It's all fake, it's fiction
>>742226658Ralsei made me gayMewMew made me transKris made me a cuckI'm still a virgin
chapters 1 and 2 felt like undertale sequelschapters 3-5 have felt like toby's leaning back in the director's chair and letting others handle most of the work on an undertale fangameI know his hands are gigafucked, so I don't blame him, and my favorite chapter is chapter 4 despite saying that, but the difference is noticeable
How far would Frisk get in Deltarune?
>>742227691nigga would have the titan be his bitch in chapter 1 dead ass
>>742227691Easy clear, because he'll sit back and let (Me) handle things instead of fighting me every step of the way.
>>742226658>Afinihug......oh
>act I mean chapter 5/7>red flags start appearing>some characters start acting ooc>a bunch of worthless new characters that nobody gives a fuck about show up and then disappear forever before the chapter is even over>story starts to focus more on shipping and gay stuff>pace seems to slow to a crawl and people start to complain about how nothing is happening with the plot despite being so far into the story>concerns about the writing now being influenced by an unsavory group of individualsHmm, all of this seems so familiar. I swear to god i've heard of this something like happening before...
>>742226658Of course it's all fake it's a world formed of perception. You find stronger equipment because the things take the form of stronger appearing equipment the longer the adventure goes onThe Knight's so powerful because they can just ignore all that and interact with the world as if it's still the light world. It's so fast because it just has to walk across a room instead of traversing a whole world. It's so strong because it just has to beat up kids or snip a flower's stem
>>742227691he would make ralsei real and then fuck him
>>742227598you can't be a cuck and a virgin
>>742227419based V3 knower
>>742227874i blame vivziepop for getting toby to voice act
>>742228056Oh yeah i forgot that happenedMakes sense that it didn't blow up, that pilot was ass
I can't beat flowery
>>742228401
>>742228401i can't beat aqua
Susie at her core being is selfish. Like, sit there for a moment and analyze what's been going on with her until now.>Chapter 1: It's all about Susie, breaking her out of her shell, pushing her to stop being an ass and make friends, no matter how annoying and disruptive she is Kris and Ralsei are willing to help her at any moment.>Chapter 2: Susie decides she's spending the early adventure with Ralsei as Kris did the last one, so she pushes Kris out. This doesn't necessarily mean that she hates Kris, but it does show that she didn't really care what Kris wanted to do.>Chapter 3: Basically the "what's going on with Kris' family life" chapter. Susie at no fucking point actually comments on Kris' family life, and barely seems to connect the dots that everything she's seeing is a reflection of Kris and very blatantly a cry for help, all she sees is just Tenna broken so must save Tenna.>Chapter 4: Susie hears Noelle say she never actually wanted to hang out with Kris and was forced to. Doesn't get upset at this. Finds out Kris heard it. Doesn't care and doesn't try to cheer up Kris for it. Sees the prophecy say (as she interprets it) that she's going to find love. Immediately darts away and leaves Kris behind. When it starts to become obvious Ralsei is hiding stuff, she berates him and yells at him, only calming down once Ralsei is actually about to break down completely and even her oblivious ass can't help but realize how mean she's being.>Chapter 5: Everything.It's time to realize that Susie hasn't, at any point, actually shown that she cares about what her friends want or made a problem about them. She might help them at very punctual times, but it never goes beyond just not wanting to lose friends, like if someone is hurt she'll heal them. But she's just treating them as part of her hoard. She's collecting friends, and is why she won't let Kris off the hook in any way while simultaneously ignoring him is she's not currently interested.
>>742228476this is also why susie is nicer on the CH5 aborted weird route.kris and noelle are having their private talks so she doesnt see her romance and friendship as secure as she wants them to be.
>>742228476Also she was willing to spend the night at Toriel's despite her awkwardness for as long as it was just a good ol' time with pie and pancakes and shows and Toriel being a nice mom, but once she walks in on Toriel drunk and gets uncomfortable she ditches Kris and leaves, and the next day she doesn't do anything about it.
/v/ can't make me hate susie
>>742229012/v/ didn't make me hate Susie, the game did.
>>742227929That's a child.
So, is he working with Gaster or not?
>>742229012>I love spending time with Kris but I would NEVER EVER consider them a romantic interest.
>>742229197nah, ralsei is more older tha most /v/ audience.
>>742229012…but toby can
>>742227862I know what you are
>50% of chapter 5 dev timeSide B>25% of chapter 5 dev timeFLOWER MAN, FLOWER MAN (getting this song right)>15% of chapter 5 dev timePlatforming>10% of chapter 5 dev timeEverything else
>>742229256At the end I genuinely thought that Susie would tell him about the dark world
>>742226658Just Flowery’s. He's making shit up.
>>742227739>>742227778This. People forget Frisk is very willing to do whatever we (YOU) want, so our boy would somehow manage to flirt and charm everyone we want while doing no hits and not getting cutscene losses
>>742227691She genuinely rapes all of them. Too strong and loyal.
>b-but Kris, boys can't get pregnant!*proceeds anyway*
So what happens if failed Side B Noelle who was convinced the dream really never happened gets shown the Dark World by Susie in chapter 6Given she knows she killed Berdly and Kris has already put the thorn back in her finger
>>742229012I still have cope and hopechope
>>742227691>Reach all places>Beat AND Spare all enemies>Get all the puss and pp>Save AND Destroy the worldCan't beat the GOAT
Is Kris masculine or feminine?
>>742229794She's a freak. She'd be absolutely be elated and go full Verso on Susie's ass.
Is Kris supposed to be both Frisk and Chara, or their own third thing?
>>742229710That's why she's best girl and wife. She gets shit done and isn't a traitor.
>>742228401>>742228472Many got unironically filtered by Undyne don't mind it
>>742229794I don't know but it's going to be tedious having to replay through Chapter 4 and 5 twice for whether or not you turn the fan up in Berdly's room
>>742229895Both and also neither.
>>742229903>she
>>742229794literally nothinga noelle is just a noelle, after all
>>742229964Yes. She.
>>742229895There's no Frisk or innate goodness in Kris. He's pure Chara which is why the shirt matches. He's a little shit who is occasionally funny but never heroic. I'm beginning to suspect the only reason he saved Susie was for this evil scheme with the Knight.
>>742229895Like the game itselfJust a referenceKris is very much his own character
>>742228476>Chapter 5.>Susie still hasn't actually apologized to Kris for the bullying.>She's just given yet another excuse for why she was doing it.
>>742230026But did you not notice Kris Dark world color scheme is Frisk's shirt?
>>742230026Neither Kris nor Chara are pure evil.
So, now that the dust has settled:Are you enjoying Deltarune more than you enjoyed undertale?
>>742230026>Chara the pure evil, made me do itYou're one of those people aren't ya?
You didn’t take her down the weird route right /v/?
This can't be fucking happening.Guys.I think...I'm starting to like Cutie Mew Mew Magic.
>>742228476I will never forgive her for ruining Kris's chance with Mew Mew
>>742229854Aqua is good but she still doesn't beat the best human wives. Toby hasn't surpassed them.
>>742229854frisk doesn't hurt or destroy anyone
>>742229903Agreed, Frisk is best. >>742229964Come on anon, UNDERTALE has every copy personalized, your Frisk is whatever gender, sex you want. Just make sure to lead best human well
>>742227691Beats the breaks off of everything including RK and the Titan.
>>742230114So far undertale is still more satisfyingThe thing is that Deltarune is longer and incompleteBut so far, undertale didn't blue balled us this long
>>742227929She only likes flowers, not goats.
>>742229871masculine but his boyfriend insists that it's not gay to frot with a they/them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-_poOjXoFconly good flowerman cover so far
>>742230114Undertale is undeniably one of the greatest games ever made. Undertale is perhaps a perfect work. One of the reasons why is its pristine pacing. Deltarune simply does not match up to that. Deltarune is complex, messy, and convoluted. It is a project whose reach may be beyond its creator's, beyond *anybody's*, grasp.Deltarune has nonetheless provided me exponentially more hours of entertainment.
>>742230114Not really, sadly.
fuck it new Gaster Theory the Gaster in the bunker is actually just a self-insert of the actual Gaster watching his Deltarune progress which is why he was pro-player when you fight The Knight
>>742230114No, but that's mostly because the chapter release model is fucking intolerable. I can't reach the highs that I reached with Undertale when I'm dripfed the cool moments years at a time. Like, I have no doubt that once Deltarune is finished it could perfectly surpass Undertale (or not, maybe it crashes and burns and we all regret our investment), but it's actually impossible to enjoy it as much as Undertale when it's like... this.
>>742230114As a whole noPart 2, and parts of part 4 and 5 yeah
>>742227691The whole internet pretty much agrees Frisk is one of the most powerful characters in all fiction simply because it's funny. Frisk would have this shit wrapped up in chapter 1 after randomly guessing the code on the shelter.
>>742230161
>>742230114It depends on how it ends but It has already surpassed Undertale in some aspects for me
>>742228401Do Deltarune fans REALLY?
>>742230207Based Friskbro understanding that humans are up to interpretation. I might see Frisk as best girl while you see them as best boy, but it doesn't matter as well all love em.
>>742230170The thing is that aqua is learning to be human, if she had development she could be even greater, but F&C do have enough weigh to surpass that>>742230185>It was all chara!Abort geno and skip a single kill, frisk's main interactions remains there, not a single complainFrisk agrees to any path and frisk's expression even reflects what we do (sans comments), frisk can be such an ass to everyone while then proceeding to be the cutest and play along
>>742230114Yes, and I feel Undertale was surpassed way back in Chapter 2. I think Undertale is “pretty good” but I’ve never gone back to play it since I finished the 2 main routes forever ago. The overall gameplay variety, soundtrack, and plot in this has already surpassed Undertale in my mind. Only issue is that it isn’t finished.
>>742230161Does anyone have the knight slash gif of this scene?
>>742230360Also because Frisk boxes with a monster with seven souls of power. She's a beast.
frisk more like sexo
>>742226658the black shard's stats have to be real since it's part of the knight's swordalso snowgrave's stats/damage seem to be sorta real
>>742229854frisk is so sexy
>>742230161It was at this moment that Susie's fate was sealed.There will come a point where the game asks me what to do with her, and I'll look down at her defeated, crying shape and whisper>dUdE, y'KnOw KrIs FlIrTs WiTh EvErY eNeMy, RiGhT???
>>742230069ACTUALLY she admits she was a complete asshole in chapter 5 if you take her to the locker she shoved Kris at. But then Kris asks Susie to do it again. Kris is an enabler. If the whole festival somehow wasn't enough to clue you in on that.
>>742230185Even outside of genocide we can do violent neutral and Frisk is up for it. LOVE influences her but it's not all Chara or us.
hot take:chara is sexier
>>742230441I personally didn't have trouble with him but he is leagues harder than spamton, queen, king, etc
>>742226658>AfinihugWho the hell put a HDG reference in my Deltarune?
>>742230463it's not frisk in the aborted geno route. the name frisk is only ever mentioned in the full pacifism route
>>742230538>>742230549This but female Frisk.
>>742230589>I don't think I ever said I......well? Fucking say it, Susie. Don't just make it about yourself yet again by saying you were an idiot. It's three words. "I am sorry." Fucking say it.
>>742227691Killed every last monster to level up, spiked Sans' skull on the corpse pile, then hit the griddy
>>742230463Maybe the flowers will return later on as they're in Mantle board 3 and give us more Aqua. But I agree with you. She doesn't have an entire game for herself to beat them.
>>742230360>The whole internet pretty much agrees Frisk is one of the most powerful characters in all fiction simply because it's funny.the character canonically can create time loops at will and has the determination to just brute force anything. That's basically godlike, not just a funny bit
>>742230809Frisk is like the Dark Souls protagonists. They will always win because they can't die. They can be fighting a literal god and will eventually win by pure chance
>>742230647>Frisk only presents herself in the full pacifistbruh... come on, frisk chooses how to do the interactions in the same way as Kris, read themJust like chara chooses to skip and narrate in both geno and pacifistFrisk never mentions the name because we assume it's chara and monsters never bother to ask
>>742230512
There's no way Toby isnt doing this on purpose right? He wants me to build an intense disdain for Susie and Ralsei after this chapter. He wants me to find every scene during the Festival utterly repulsive and fake, right?
>>742230896I sure hope that's the intent but i'm not so sure
>>742230896Like father like son
>>742230889thank you
>>742227961Says who? The definition of a cuck is someone who gets off on other people fucking their girlfriend or wife while they're in a relationship: you can be a virgin while in a relationship, even a physical one if it happens early or you're waiting for whatever reason.
>>742230778I do believe we're getting a "power of friendship" scene, subverted at the end, but we're totally getting itJust like flowery doesn't actually wins despite everything
>>742230114we don't get phone calls for every single area in the light and dark world so no
>>742230809That only works in the Underground because there's nobody with any real Determination down there. If Flowey lost his ability just because Frisk showed up, surely the presence of millions of humans on the surface complicates any one attempt to seize control of the timeline.
>>742230114I think Deltarune is a better game on paper, but Undertale having good pacing and actually being complete puts it ahead for me currentlyAlso I fear that Deltarune's teenage romance melodrama will ruin the game for me, as it seems to be one of the focuses moving forward where I'd much rather it be about dark worlds and their consequences, or the holiday mystery
>>742230852pretty sure the dark souls protagonist does not have these powers in the lore, just for gameplay reasons. if i remember correctly the flame just picks a new chosen undead if this one fails
>>742230448Agreed. Honestly one of the things I think Toby did best was getting that sweet spot, balance between a blank protag yet one that has a good design while also leaving enough of their character that you can see and letting you fill the blanks however you want. Ironically I think Fox is trying to fray that conception and subvert it as much as he can with Kris. And it hits harder since you compare Kris to FriskActually that's a great think to ponder. Frisk is happy or at least unbothered and determined with whatever we get him her to do. Frisk is happy to play the role and be whatever we need and want. Kris opposes us and only brings himself miseryAlso I like to headcanon the only reason Frisk lets himself be btfo by Chara is that seeing someone so similar made him get a huge boner and heartboner and hearing her call him her partner made Frisk ok with whatever happens next
>>742230854cool headcanon
>>742230896Need to prime you for at least one playthrough where you let it all burn down.
>>742230854He's right we only truly know Frisk in true pacifist, but you're also right that she's still present in every other route. Personally I think Frisk doesn't fight our orders because she has no separation between her body and soul as Undertale isn't a simulated world like Deltarune.
>>742230642mb, meant to say tenna instead of spamton
>>742230896Yes, he's making you hate the prophecy so that you try and find ways around it.
Why?
>>742230676Kris interrupted her here, dude. Kris doesn't even want to hear it. That's part of the problem with all the Suselle discourse on /v/. Kris is literally actively enabling and encouraging Susie's behavior, and fights you back if you try to make Kris stand up against it. On aborted 5, Susie also outright asks Kris if she's getting in the way of Kris & Noelle and if she should back off, basically coming out and saying she's too stupid to navigate the subtext and trying to understand if she's fucking something up. The soul has the option to say "don't come between me and Noelle", but if you try to pick that option, Kris jumps into the pool to fill their lungs with water so Susie can't hear it. Everybody on /v/ talks about Kris getting cucked to death without acknowledging Kris is the cuckolding goddamn chessmaster. KRIS IS DOING THIS TO YOU AS MUCH AS SUSIE IS.
>>742230896Ralsei is growing more likeable if anythingSusie lost some points and Kris keeps looking more and more useless
>>742230965People can't save and load on the surface because there's no magic there.
Tch, YOU'RE a hero?
>>742230896It's either you're supposed to hate Kris and accept him being miserable is worth them being on cloud 9, or thatShowing Kris fucked up is the only indication that there's any negatives about it, but at the same time I believe you're meant to be distrustful of Kris right now
>>742231089A fawn is a deer.To fawn over someone is to shower them in attention and praise.
>>742231094>KRIS IS DOING THIS TO YOU AS MUCH AS SUSIE IS.reminder that Kris is an evil motherfucker with a lot of meta knowledge and this implies that susie getting with noelle is what the knight would want
>>742226658Your stats only matter to the dark worldIf hypothetically some normal NPC initiated combat with you, you would be still at a level of violence of 2 at most.
>>742231094I don't think Kris ever minded getting bullied. They're even suprised when Susie says that shes knows they want her expelled.
>>742231149>I believe you're meant to be distrustful of Kris right nowHe really fucked up then because Kris is my favourite by far. I'd kill all the rest of them if he wanted
>>742231094first of all, lower your voicesecond of all, when Kris has the choice to support Susie and Noelle, Kris' sprite changes and he looks downward.There's something about Susie and Noelle Kris doesn't like.
>>742230965I think most people just interpret Frisk's reset, save and load powers as sort of a give and take between himself and the player. For all we know only humans can be player characters in universe. Either way, I think it's interesting for a random kid to have the power to save and load reality like a game, or get to use it by being puppeteered and becoming an avatar for an otherworldly being.
>>742231168no i mean why would maddie ask thatwhy is she jealous over a high school deer
>>742231094wtf is his deal
For me, I imagine Kris and Frisk as male because I am male, and I just imagine myself in their shoes.Sorry friends!
>>742231094There's a difference between Kris not minding being bullied and Susie not apologizing for having bullied Kris though. It's obvious Kris doesn't really care Susie bullied him, from all we've seen Kris never even really felt fear or stress from it and was always secretly in control of the situation. But we're discussing Susie's character and how Susie turned out to be the way she is in chapter 5, and Susie never actually apologizes.
MYYYYYY SHARONA
>>742231024read mf read>>742231004My interpretation is that, that scene is happening inside's frisk's mind>>742231048One could argue that maybe we're more insidious and frisk/chara believes our choices are theirs, but chara & meta flowey makes clear it is us, it falls on the uncleared topics in the game, the why
>>742231094Kris also doesn't let you say that her and Noelle will work out in the pool scene. I think this instance is more about his fear of getting close to Noelle
>>742231334But she was literally about to...
>>742231280because she's crazy
>>742231280Some girls are jealous over ANY other girl their object of affection mentions anon.
>>742231367He also mumbles when you make him "Susie never gets in the way" when talking about Kriselle. So IDK what this kid wants
>>742231004Toby leaves a lot of Frisk and even the other humans to our imagination. Some don't like it but I love a character that is a puzzle for us to solve. Plus Undertale doesn't really focus on the player and protagonist separation which is why Frisk can just be happy in her journey.>spoilerChara only destroys the world, not Frisk. Frisk survives it which is why you can give her soul to Chara. Cute headcanon even if I prefer Chara being the simp.
the Angel is the Sun
>>742231387About to doesn't mean she did it.
>>742231367>>742231430>Kris doesn't enjoy being mean to Susie>Kris doesn't like something about Susie and Noelle going outthese are not mutually exclusive things
>>742231358>read mf readplay the gamesans recognizes you as chara the moment you exit the ruins in the genocide route. you're not even recognized as a human. aborted geno route is not frisk
For some reason I have the feeling Toby originally planned for a Weird Route festival since CH2 but cancelled it to spite soulelle anons. He seems to hold a resentment against the fandom.You can tell Berdly was supposed to be hated and annoying but due to being very funny and honest, he unintentionally become extremely loved. While Toby was extremely proud of Alphys for being a flawed character.Every character he makes is flawed. Every masculine main character that's not Sans and Papyrus are either gay, losers or have a lot of problems. While women are all dominant or lesbians.If you take the gay jokes between Berdly and Kris, Berdly looks like an anti toby fox character because he is confident, funny, arrogant and cool without having muh vague tragic backstory with a thousand of theories or space to leave for headcanons.Toby also got very annoyed when people had every reason in the world to find Ralsei's hat design thousand of times better than the other one. Flowery is intentionally made to be an anti tenna who was heavily loved and the rick and morty writing is always trying to ruin your expectations because reasons."Oh you expected this? just kidding this is what happens!"Remember when Sans boned Toriel? Tony literally had a panic attack and wrote that unnecessary extremely obvious Toriel monologue to fix it.I'm already expecting toby to come out with unnatural dialogue on the first five minutes of Chapter 6 where Susie and Noelle say something like "Oh Kris sorry for lefting you out like that" or whatever. Or Kris suddenly loving yurislop and feeling extremely happy for them.This guy is a massive faggot who is terrified of making a serious mature story and prefers to make teenager tumblr garbage. I wouldn't be surprised if Noelle at Chapter 7 makes a dialogue like "oh Kris I love you, and only you, I would feel extremely betrayed and disgusted if you weren't actually Kris" to spite weird route fans and make Gaster a furry gay fatass out of spite
>>742227419>We will reject the Deltarune
>>742231430he's an anti-social traumatized teenager who's seeing his best friend in years slip away from him, but is also too embarrassed to actually SAY what he wantshe just wants SOMETHING, but he can't bring himsefl to say it
>>742231272All humans that fell underground could save and load. Yes, even these jobbers. I think it's just because the underground has magic unlike the surface so it awakens mankind's hidden powers, and since monsters don't have determination basically anyone can save.
hello please get on my 'susie is a darkner' train- her light counterpart could be either the tracing of a purple dragon under dess's bed or the muave dragon in 'how to draw dragons' (the one kris looks at and thinks 'why didn't I see a darkner of this already?')- said book is 7 years overdue, we know this is the date of the first fountain, dark world, 'the incident' and the date dess disappears- from what little we know about her, there is no mention of susie having parents, and seems to have been living homeless/shitty shelters for the last 7 years, at some point wanders back into town and got listed back into school by toriel, explains why she flips out with glee on being given her own room in the dark world.- with the popularity of kris/noelle's dark knight theory, we are left with no more leads on dess - what if we spin a tale that she's simply susie... a hybrid of lightner and darkner? - the core of this very fragile theory is: susie is the merging of dess's soul or body (a lightner) with the darkner of the purple dinosaur drawing in a similar way to how PINK and spamton NEO were created- this unique 'NEO' form could be how she can live in the light world, and why she'd bleed. What I can't explain is how the strings came into play, and this also implies that susie may have a shadow crystal, but I couldn't tell you what the 'lost dream' was. For this theory to be correct, this also means that both pink and spamton neo would be able to live in the light world (this needs more investigation) spamton possibly thought he could [HEAVEN]
>>742231581- susie has aspects of dess that are impossible to ignore, she's punkish, has a slight preference for violence, plays the drums (which are in dess's cupboard) and her theme is a guitar (which by the way, is literally named s_neo in the files, I assume susie_neo) it's a bit shocking how well she fits in to dess's room with colour matching. she even sits down besides the bed by the pillows, not ON the bed, as if she's done it a thousand times before. -this is pushing it into a hilarious place, but maybe the reason noelle and susie like each other is because they feel a recognition, sisterly love, but don't understand it for what it is- catti, when seeing susie, calls her 'the twin beasts' and 'an invader, a dark force' at another time, she says 'so comes the beast... and it's... and kris' the hesitation implying that she can see something else attached to 'the beast' instead of kris. but this is very weak evidence. I just find it odd that catti, who is all about the occult, who is the literal mystic of the lightners, is so suspicious of susiesome smaller clues:-when susie asks 'which dragon blazers character am I?' gerson replies 'the dragon, of course'- being half darkner may be why she doesn't hesitate to move into the dark world as a permanent home- sans when giving ice cream at the festival 'hmm, got anything purple?' susie asks, and noelle follows up with 'i'll have, um... oh, the holiday twist!' O_Osusie has either a: forgotten everything about who she is, or b: been keeping it a secret. she did make a joke about secret identities once. I will investigate further! CHOO CHOO
>>742231094Anon that happens after Kris regains some control and you almost got Noelle to drown herself
>>742231515>We're still talking about thisChara is the narrator, Frisk is the one who responds to our ACTsWhen you do geno, Frisk either gets personality erased or Chara simply just takes over, evidenced with the> * Mecheck later on in the route
>>742231581That theory is neat but would turn Suselle into partial incest and not even Tony could escape getting cancelled over that.
>>742231515If you get the geno scene, you didn't aborted itnice try thoYou only need a single spared monster and leave the underground as empty or one in each area and frisk is just frisk, no chara taking the wheel to hurry things forward
>>742231540He needs to just have confidence in his own material.The insecurity was so great it actually showed through this chapter. In an ideal world he'd get locked out of internet access or something until the game was complete
>>742231706does tony care about being cancelled when he is that fucking rich
>>742231581retard you literally see her walk around outside
>>742231358Chara and Flowey's dialogue is weird because you can argue Chara is just talking to Frisk and Flowey to Chara. Undertale is just way more vague than Deltarune is about this topic.
>>742231732>he thinks you can get the geno ending without killing everyoneLOLit's so easy to abort after getting that initial scene. you've literally never played the game
>>742231581>>742231616I have considered the possibility that Susie is actually the purple dragon darkner, but the idea that she might be Dess/was there when Dess disappeared didn't. That'd be a fucking ASTLIBRA-tier plot twist scene.
>>742231515You can do violent neutral routes without triggering genocide
>>742231780i want to cum on their cute heads
>>742231646>the narrator simply takes over!why do you have to overcomplicate a perfectly fine story with your headcanon?
>>742226658Yes everything stats wise is fake. Hell your atk and defense and the enemies defense are fake
>>742231842Only if they're lolis.
Genuinely frightening yet hilarious how Possible this video feelshttps://x.com/drit__/status/2071071664113103151
>>742231780that post ending scene is pretty weird, flowey believes he is talking to chara, but he is talking to us>>742231804>0 reading comprehension >He didn't saw sans angry at us with a blowing wind as background noise neutral endingok enjoy your headcanon
>weird route kris sees what's going on with normal route kris>decides perhaps psychopathic doe potentially obsessed with [Heart-Shaped Object] is better than that
>>742231930In the 10th anniversary stream didn't Toby imply the>SAVE one morewasn't Asriel, but Chara?Don't be mad at me nigga, I'm just looking at the cards we have.
>>742231994I love this Dess. I love does so much bros...
>WRONG HOLE!
>>742232014I gave up with that guyyeah, tobby directly says (you) save chara first, hence why you see the scene and then you can save asriel
>>742231094And he clearly doesn't like some of whats going on.he is acting against his best interest 80% of the time, and its because there is something in the near future he is trying to change or avoid happening, that much is clear.
>>742231971What's YOUR shadow crystal, /v/? What did the fox take from you?
>>742231990>He didn't saw sansESLs really shouldn't be allowed to discuss lore
>>742231994I think irreversibly changing your childhood crush into a psycho sado by breaking down their inhibitions and actively hurting them would be worse, especially for someone like Kris
>>742226658>Uses the power of friendship to defeat Kris>Gets completely mogged by sheer force of willWhat did Toby mean by this?
>>742232067>I DIDN'T SAY STOP IDIOT!
>>742232067which hole is that in her perspectiv
>>742227624He's prepping something big. I just know it.
>>742232115>You look through the crystal, for a second you saw catti being relevant to the main story and being more than a gag character
Okay loresages. How does Chapter 5 connect to Snowdin with the Reverse Undertale theory?
>>742232134DETERMINATION is stronger than friends.
>>742232121concession accepted
>>742232184I am a ReverseUndertaleFag but i think chapter 5 killed that theory completely
>>742231994Kris is going to be 100% shellshock braindead by the time 7b happens, we're going to need to jump to Noelle or the Vessel
>>742232181i think hes just busy catching up on japanese pussy
>>742231094Because "Love find its way to the Girl".It's obvious by now that >1. The Girl is headed towards a tragedy>2. Roles of the Prophecy can be changedIf Susie don't "find love", chances are the Prophecy will auto-correct again. The nearest candidate for that doomed role is Noelle. The implications are clear.
>>742230185maybe YOUR frisk didn't
>>742232184It doesn't, really. That theory is fucking donezo.Honestly the flower world doesn't connect great to anything in undertale. Ruins i guess?
Aqua reminded me so much of numbuh 3 from KND, basically the same kind of mannerisms too
>>742232229Reminder:Kris can't say>Stopforcefully and the Mantle implies some part of Kris enjoys what we're doing
>>742231450Based. I hope once Deltarune is finished Toby manages to do it again and make kino again with his meta player and player character connection. Yeah, I do think Chara did not kill Frisk. I headcanon that Chara just wanted the player to fuck off so she could do whatever with Frisk. I don't know, think both would be simps for each other. One's a very horny Frisk, the other is a very eccentric and maladjusted Chara coming off genocide high. I like to think Chara is still a human racist but thinks of Frisk as "Only good one. Besides that, I really find them a very nice couple to just look at and ponder. They have a certain aesthetic symmetry and you can get the fell from what little we know of each that they would get along as young kids."
>>742232134Another clue for the people who are still a bit slow that this isn’t Undertale, and making friends with everyone isn’t going to prevent horrific things from happening in this story.
>>742232190>DETERMINATION*POWERftfy
>>742226658The town is a simulation, and to get inside of it, San uses the machine next to the photo of the three friends. The body/soul is Chara's, and the point of the simulation is to rehabilitate the soul since it was messed up during determination experiments. The prophecy is the curriculum to rehabilitation, and the weird route is Kris / the player and Noelle forcibly ejecting from the simulation. The shelter is the entrance, and the Roaring Knight is removing people either to protect them from lingering Chara hatred and violence. At the end of the normal route, the body/soul is rehabilitated and placed in the ruins for Undertale as Frisk.
I believe we will do something very funny in ch 6 in the hospital when we realize the meat factory is secretly there and normalNPC blocks our path to it.
>>742232225What the fuck is Blue's problemActually I take that back I know so many queer people like this.
>>742230642>>742231070I had a far easier time.fighting spamton then I do with flowery right now.
>>742232229>>742232287Kris
>>742232134Why is this news to you, every Frisk win was his determination beating everyone downAsriel was the one with Frisk's friends inside him, not the other way around
>>742232115>You look through the crystal...>For a second you saw Berdly defending you.
>>742232287That "some part" is hanging out with Noelle again not the killing or other shit
ENTER
I HATE YOUUUUU
>>742231990Yeah. That's what I mean. Flowey thinks he's talking to Chara. It's deliberate vague and weird.
>>742232014>10th anniversary streamnot in the game. not canon
>>742232134Flowery hesitated for obvious reasons, and was more than ready to keep going when Asgore stopped the fight
>>742232415Just when Kris thought the humiliation ritual was over...
So only human souls can seal fountains?how will they deal with that with kris gone after chapter 5?
>>742229012Truth is... We miss the Susie we loved
>>742227874If Deltarune goes the route of Homestuck I will laugh until the end of time
>>742232292nta, it feels correct for Frisk to survive the route, after all chara is talking to (you) and what gets cut off is the connection
>>742230896Stop self-inserting into a psycho nigga. You are not Kris.
>>742232392No I'm pretty sure Eram meant the killing shit unless you think Kris is satisfied with a cloaked sprite as a stand in for Noelle.
>>742232363Honestly he might be spamton neo tier, regardless I do think Flowery is a step above most chapter bossesAlso from what I saw Flowery introduces harder patterns for each phase if you don't get them done asap
>>742232453Only (You) can seal fountains(You) are the strongest character in the game
>>742232453Who said that?
>>742232184>>742232226>>742232282You retards. The Flower World is a forest, like Snowdin was. You have puzzles were you are forced to move forward like the ice puzzles, you got quirky characters constantly stopping you to do puzzles. It's more alive than ever. Flowery is Papyrus and his flowers are Sans. Mad Mew Mew is Mad Mew Mew.
>>742232503He's talking to the Kris in-game.
>>742227874>Toby Fox learned NOTHING from Hussie's mistakes >DELTARUNE will just end up being a gigantic middle-finger to the people who were invested in it like HomestuckThis is why I'm never buying episodic bullshit again.
>>742232503I don't believe the game you play on that day was 'yesterday' but I'll give you a chance you to share your schizo theory for why it might be
>>742232134I believe the secret boss foreshadowing that the final skillcheck was Kris and (You) leaning into it, which is just power of friendship on power of friendship, it cancels out
>redo CH2 for fun>check the poster in the computer room>"You think how different today would've gotten if the orange cat was here"ERAM was a cat?
Toby has already said chapter 6 will be very easy to program. Those who think he's making two different variations for an abandoned weird route (or even a single one at all) are setting yourself up for disappointment.
what does this mean?
>>742232612Its also very possible that its because there aren't going to be any more crazy gimmicks and the last we get are climbing and platforming
>he bought...?>cuck him.
>>742232554normalNPC being a goner acting out of line constantly is a funny ideaand would explain why they attack kris despite the gaster connection- attacking kris against gaster's orders when kris bypasses them to get to the meat world.(Not what I think will happen just me thinking out ways it could happen)
>>742229012Hate is just the opposite emotion from love. Only one can spur the other
>>742232612He could just be talking about no gameplay gimmick testing. The platforming has been in dev since Chapter 2.
>>742232115>For just a brief moment you thought you saw the Shelter, with a lanky figure in the doorway.>For some strange reason...>She seemed to be weeping.
>>742232640craves monster pussy/cock
>>742229012Whats it like being a beta orbiter to a lusbo that was just using you
"I still think they deserve to win" is objectively the absolute craziest line in the entire game.https://x.com/fortnitebussy1/status/2071615307643551751
>>742232612>Noelle's reaction to the Dark World after her dad's condition took a turn for the worse>"It will be very easy to program">Ch5 was the last fun chapterCastle Town is doomed, isn't it.
>>742232640Well it's not like Kris had any alternative from becoming a monster fucker
>>742232574Eram is talking about the game first and THEN mentions what happened yesterday
>>742230026
>>742226658Wanna draw MewMew and her ghost counterpart, but dunno who I should give big tits. I think I'll draw the one w/ big tits as a sticc, and the flatter one sorta chubby.
>>742232612why does noelle look like that
>>742232612>This Chapter is easier to make than the others, so the development is going quite fast.I'm guessing this means they won't focus on gimmicks and just make it back-to-back plot focused
so are Dark Fountains called that because to make them you "dig" down to reach into the pool of infinite darkness under the Town so more darkness starts gushing out of the hole you dug?
>>742232292I don't think Toby is making another game, but agreed.>spoilerI disagree. I think Chara just wanted us to follow her to the next world, not be alone with Frisk. I don't know if she even cared about her at this point. I'm more of a Chasriel/Flowisk guy but I don't mind your headcanon. It's cute.>>742232369Frisk uses both determination and friendship to save her friends, and the Omega Flowey fight (that Flowery parallels) is won only thanks to friendship with the souls.
>>742232612Are there any interesting speculations as to why 6 is "easier to make?" Reusing assets would make sense, like the brief strange cliff area with dripping black goop from the beginning, but I'm curious if any other unique possibilities have been posited as to why it would be much faster to produce
>>742232612this thing is going to be overflowing by the end of ch 6
>>742232680>The platforming has been in dev since Chapter 2Source?
>>742232612What the fuck is that artstyle
>>742232612>cardigan, dress AND jeansholy completely made up outfit, batman
>>742232763>no weird route>no new mechanics like climbing/platforming
>>742232184>Conveniently shaped bushes>Feather is just blue soul>Don't forget>Mad Mew Med>Final boss that doesn't kill you
>>742229012I am going to continue the normal route out of spite, in hopes that there will be a time when I can SWOON Susie.Maybe a little impromptu weirdness in chapter 6.
This is the most gut punching scene in the entire gamehttps://youtu.be/eH_P_-E6BY4?t=104&si=8uJvNYE6VfJ4KlSu
that's it: we're going to the dumpster
>>742232738I so glad I picked Catty for Burgerpants.He deserved a good ending.Watching all the faggots and lgbt foids pick the other guy and get destroyed was fun.
Japan loves Chapter 5 btw. Specifically Kawker.
>>742232115>You peered through the crystal...>You saw a sinister cat darker twist his head like an owl.
>>742232608It's a Garfield joke.
>>742232721She needs to look like the artist, a fat black tranny.
>>742232812doesn't want kris to be found it seems
>>742232854That red line lmao
>>742232612>Needs to be updated to include asgore, monster kid, onion-san and snowyNote "lack of crazy gimmicks" doesn't rule out something like NormalNPC ambushing you or a creepy location.
>>742232835YOU BROUGHT THIS UPON YOURSELF
>>742232760>Eight human souls, in unison, say>SAVE
>>742232831>>742232695The fact all these devastating Kriselle moments are optional, and sometimes even difficult to find (you need to do the Kris & Noelle vote to be able to ride the wheel with her) doesn't give me a ton of hope for a cathartic resolution to all this.It honestly just feels like we're trying to "see too far".
>>742232818If Reverse Undertale is real then wasn't this supposed to be Hotland? Then Snowdin for Chapter 6 would make more sense (If it takes place in the Holiday Manor or the Hospital, which I can see it as being cold and snowy.)
IT WASN'T A DREAM
>>742232835
>>742232913Was monster kid killed?I would be really sad, shes a good girl
>>742227777>checked
>>742232115>You look through the crystal...>For a second you saw your father fighting a dark creature with a sword.
>>742232760Agreed, don't think a new game is coming. Still...one can hope. I also mean that I just hope Fox manages to pull off whatever he's going for Deltarune.
>>742232763no new gimmicks, maybe. probably going to be a shorter chapter, with 7 likely being the longest chapter.asset re-uselikely already started work on it while the previous chapter was being translated.
>>742232972boy
>>742232773Can't find the posts but you can find testing for it in the Ch. 2 files.
>>742232952Your choices don’t matter. Susie will always date Noelle
>>742227691Unironically breaks the Knight over their knee in the first encounter
>>742229710Y'know, I wonder about that kid. Might've grown up to be a nice man, great smile n' all. Everything about the kid reminded me of one of those Japanese type characters... You know the kind. Perfect reflexes, constantly flirting, condescending... Real jerks! Geheheh...You tend to love 'em by the end... Think they can do anything! It's always a real kicker though when the poor clod's stomped on to prove a point.Real tragic that...It's like all the hopes n' dreams in the world can't change the tide of what's comin'. Pretty great narrative device though! Gahhaha! Me? No, I've never written one of those types before.Nah... Heroes can be villains too.
>>742232612Wonder what the original DR concept where everyone was human and the dark world is where the monster forms appeared would have been like.
>>742232854What is Kawker?
Guys, they did it!
>>742232763have you played mother 3
>>742232184Chapter 5 is more like the Ruins, if anything.
>>742232974newfag-kun...
>>742232958Hotland was Chapter 3 (which wasn't lava themed either and yet the retards didn't complain then)
>>742232115>For a brief moment you see >A destroyed doll in the floor, while a dark figure laughs
>>742229012Eh she'll come around, trust the process.
https://litter.catbox.moe/oah2mncgublvdpoe.mp4
>>742226806i'm surprised no one mentioned that he is a deltarune cheapie, heck he is clearly inspired by ronald
>>742233035They got to The Grey Garden
>>742232963
>>742233035
>>742233020this berdly looks like spamton
>>742233020No one would have cared about it
>>742233047Wrong.
>Ok so, Side B Weird Route is Noelle, right? So, why does Ralsei have the exact same Noelle animation thing going on?>Is Side A Weird Route Ralsei, or Susie?
>>742231540>While Toby was extremely proud of Alphys for being a flawed character.i can fucking guarantee if he didn't change alphys to be a woman at the last moment he would dislike her as much as he dislikes berdly. what i don't understand is why he started to set up berdly having clear character growth, only to seemingly throw it all out of the window to spite the fans. if it was a case of bloat or lack of time i guess i can understand, but considering berdly goes right back to the status quo of being an "annoying nerdy incel", i'm assuming it was out of spite.>Tony literally had a panic attack and wrote that unnecessary extremely obvious Toriel monologue to fix it.>I'm already expecting toby to come out with unnatural dialogue on the first five minutes of Chapter 6 where Susie and Noelle say something like "Oh Kris sorry for lefting you out like that" or whatever. Or Kris suddenly loving yurislop and feeling extremely happy for them.this is what i'm the most worried about with chapter 6, it was a big reason why i didn't like chapter 5 as much as previous ones. a lot of the writing felt really insecure and self-conscious, like the toriel thing, and the amount of times the characters spitefully talk about hat ralsei, not to mention the "Gross" comments during the ARG. i'm not even a soulellefag but that made him look like such an bitter loser, it was hussie-tier seething.
>>742233067>Throuple trashI'd rather the ship just sink desu
>>742232952The fact that we're totally getting Ch. 6 with majorly just Kris and Noelle(based off equipment shit) prove otherwise. And in story, Susie wanting Noelle to get involved in DWs.
To think... Mad Mew Mew porn was once scarce...But now, heh...WE FEAST ON CAT GIRL TITTIES
>>742233087
>>742233035>Cheese and crackers Kris, it’s Ninten from mother 1!
>>742232115>You look through the crystal...>For a second, you saw a trident-wielding shadow in front of a burning field of flowers.
>>742233035I fucking dread how time works in a goner dimension
>>742230161why did she do it
>>742233025this lil guy
>>742233051I'm from /x/ your guys's board goes so fast, lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DstO9slC_5U
But Kris, I'm not Ralsei! I'm ASRIEL!
>>742233139
>>742227691Fuck I wish I still had that image where Kris has a text box stating they are all absolutely fucked when seeing Frisk
>>742233172No gets on /v/ except for 0s
>>742232713>eat da chicken sans!
>>742233160The Writers thought they were doing a clever metahumor gag and fumbled hard
>>742233139>Kris when he entered the bathroom with Toriel inside
>>742232989Yeah, at this point I just hope he finishes Deltarune, too. There's only two chapters left, so I believe. He has to stick the landing, though.
>>742233137She's the only female schizo boss. Of course she gets attention.
>>742233168>ntaHe's SO cute
>>742233175OST peaked at ch3.Everything after that has been lukewarm at best
>>742233087you DUDE it's just like STRANGER THINGS*soi pogs and points*
>>742233040Just Earthbound although I always meant to. I know 3's main plot points in general, what is the implication about ch 6 specifically?
I think Jevil likes her
Who's in the Bunker that has so much Determination that Kris can't LOAD?
>>742233207LMAO
>>742233175Wait a minute. Making stealth threads is boring. Let's just flood the catalog instead.
>>742233192>>742233139Them warping to Silent Hill would be awesome but the ARG seems to have confirmed they fell UNDER the lake (IE into a dark world) rather than reaching the other shore.
>>742233168I feel the need to strangle this adorable creature with all my might.
>>742233172>I'm from /x/you're here for the goners?cause ALL MY NIGGAS GONERS NIGGA HEIL GASTER
He’s gonna chara isn’t he
>>742233203>Thank you for the heads-up, I'll remember that!Deltarune posting has been very fun the last few days!
Jevil and Spamton both had giant bullet nuke fakeouts at the end of their final attacks and I was disappointed to see this tradition didn't continue. Gerson kind of has that, I suppose.
>>742233071kek
>>742230896I'm starting to believe the "weird route wasn't supposed to be discovered right away" theory more and more. The first playthrough is meant to be unsatisfying and annoying, with the most hackneyed "lesbian romance" ever written in video games to make you want to go back and redo the chapters so something different happens, until you stumble upon the weird route. This would have worked if the game was released in one piece instead of chapter by chapter like he's doing now. Hell, there's probably going to be an easy way to get "off route" in one of the later chapters. Some kind of time travel to easily change things so you don't have to redo an entire save.
>>742233229i didnt mind hammer of justice so much but u r not wrong
>>742233175>Chapter 3 Susie>before all the Noelle talksigh...
>>742232760>>742232989There'll be a new game, it just won't be some epic length one like Deltarune. I seriously doubt he will lock himself into episodic stuff again, you can already tell he's getting sick of this one. I'm betting any games he makes after this will be short one shots, passion projects with either a big name collaboration or solo - no team.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdyMik9Ffz4
>>742230989>"The Darksign signifies an accursed Undead. Those branded with it are reborn after death, but will one day lose their mind and go Hollow. Death triggers the Darksign, which returns its bearer to the last bonfire rested at, but at the cost of all humanity and souls"
>>742233295Mew Mew has a nuclear meltdown for her final attack
>>742233291Why bother he’s ALREADY FUCKING DYING
>>742233192Is Noelle training?
>>742226658Wait a second, you can't get final shadow crystal in Weird Route B!
>>742233243She can do anything! Say it, Kris!
>>742233124well it's either that or>susie and noelle get together and they keep Kris as their permanent third wheelbecause the story isn't ending with Kris and Susie separate.
>>742233291>important enough to be in the inventoryoh you know he's up to something with em
>>742233080Because the Jojo animations were extremely obvious nobody feels the need to point it out
>>742233059>Chapter 1 Capital (Castle Town is the "Capital" of Dark Worlds)>Chapter 2 CORE>Chapter 3 Hotland/MTT >Chapter 4Waterfall>Chapter 5(Intermission) Yes, it's cheap, but I can't figure out how to make this Chapter fit the theory. Yes, that means it's probably false.>Chapter 6Snowdin (Holiday Manor? Hospital?) I can see Susie going full escapist and learning NOTHING by trying to bring Gerson back in the Second Sanctuary. >"Noelle, wait.. We can still bring your father back...>Chapter 7 Ruins. (Shelter)(It's gonna be the Shelter)(IT HAS to be the Shelter.)
>>742233260qrd on the ARG?
>>742230114I would say yes. I like the music more, I like the battle system more because of the party members, and for the most part I like the characters more. Undertale is a more cohesive narrative though without a doubt
>>742233301>"weird route wasn't supposed to be discovered right awayEven if you believed that he explicitly tells you how to do it in chapter 3
>>742233152Weird route is depressing from everyone else’s perspective >One week Kris seemed really depressed, He stopped being as energetic, kept talking with Noelle in secret, got violent and started fainting several times throughout the day, He slept in super late and just when everything seemed better for a bit, he vanished with only a trial of breadcrumbs left behind
>>742233172Welcome aboardhttps://voca.ro/1kNEwZN6OEFg
>>742233291can you drop?
>>742233291i get the seeds are for the golden flower but what does it mean tho
>>742233290LOL
>>742232184Ih, it's obviousIt's the part of Undertale where you go to New Home between Snowdin and Waterfall
>>742233260Not quite, the other side of the lake was also a valid answer I was one of them who inputed the answer so it's legit.
>>742233243she has a desire for chaos so i can see why
>>742233291Obviously. Kris is Chara truthers won.
TOBY FOX UPLOADED MEW MEW 10 MONTHS AGO ON YOUTUBE WTFIT WAS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US AHHHHHHHHHHH ALL THE SCHIZO THEORIES AND NOT ONE RETARD EVER WENT >huh that’s weird he uploaded this random boss from Undertale switch Look check his YouTube channel for the music
>>742233260It could still be a grayed out area, especially considering the "evil" place in mancountry.
>Flowey is a self insert and makes fun of people who watch gameplays instead of playing the genocide route, calling them cowards>Noelle also does this in CH5's Weird Route, taunting people who play the game without looking where the story goes and never backtracking>Toby made Flowey break the 4 wall if you close the game during his dialogue to surprise normalfags, but never cared enough to make Asriel and Chara react to see you closing the game on their speech>Sans is a literal self insert and a overpowered OC that thousand of teenagers had in the past. He is overpowered, has meta knowledge, bangs Toriel, is memeable, funny and literally everyone loves him>Kris is a obvious self insert, also blatantly touches piano >Noelle is another self insert with masochist tendencies >Toby dedicated a huge insufferable part of Hotland dedicated to Alphys and admitted with a complete straight face that he was proud of Alphy's writing and role in Undertale >Toby literally adds a lot of NTR in Deltarune with Rouxl, Suselle and Soulelle against Kris>Toby genuinely loves yuri passionately and has a irresistible urge to make Kris a cuck>Every male character is either a loser or gay except Sans>Kris literally wants to be treated like a dogI think I can confidently deduce Toby Fox is a closeted bisexual tranny. He finds the idea of staring at women kissing each other arousing.The problem is that instead of enjoying the image of a woman's body like a normal straight man, he focuses so much on writing yurislop that he is mentally standing on the shoes of one of the lesbian characters to think how would a lesbian woman react.Therefore, what he finds arousing is not being a third wheel, but being a lesbian woman himself. He disassociates and self inserts as part of the yuri because he finds arousing the idea of kissing a woman, but as a woman himself.Noelle Holiday is Toby Fox's ideal gender identity for his closeted gender dysphoria.
>>742233368Oh anon the Shelter is a psyop you'll go to it
>>742233295Knight has the snowflake attack
>>742233371Two people who answered variations of "Beneath the lake" got an email two hours after the game came out."So, what did you think?"
>>742233368If Noelle makes the dark world then there's a solid chance Rudy would come back from that
>>742233378>That Vocaroo
>>742233301>dude what if after you beat the game you could go back and change the ending so that your favorite character didn't die by doing a secret alternate route>whoops i decided to release the game in pieces and now everyone is playing both routes at the same time
>>742233243Her brand of FREEDOM is similar to his. Game recognize game.
>>742233105I'm mostly curious as to when the "troubled sole human in a monster world" dynamic took form since the infamous fever dream ending and game concept predated it. You'd think it was part of the base story from the beginning.
JP artists are fucking crazy. But then again all the art people go stupidly fucking fast for Deltarune.
>>742233446Did you know that this chapters new rude buster is from the switch 1 trailer for deltarune?
>>742233260Copies are monochrome.I'm trying to see as far as I can, but it doesn't look too good.I sense nothing but evil from that place.
>>742230114I was skeptical at CH1.CH2 and 3 made me love it way more than UT.CH4 was a bit boring.CH5 was better but the LGBT faggots ruined most of the experience.
I didn't return the Top cake in CH1 cause I wanted to see what her reaction to it would beworth it
>>742233459if he loves Yuri then he is doing a terrible job with the shipping so far
>>742231094>he soul has the option to say "don't come between me and Noelle", but if you try to pick that option, Kris jumps into the pool to fill their lungs with water so Susie can't hear it.Do you even understand why this happens on aborted 5? It's because Kris thinks you will make Noelle a slave, (aborted weird route) telling her to "proceed" her way into an early grave. Kris wants you as far away from Noelle as he can get (You), regardless of how he feels about it.It's not because he doesnt like her, It's because the alternative is letting you get close to her and making her even more crazy.
>>742233216I feel like it didnt give much insight prior schizo bosses didnt already.I think we might have more in common with maddy or mettaton than we realize but the implications of that seem trivial and just an extrapolation. But maybe some people needed a direct "flatland" example?
>>742233509What is actually so evil about this place?
>>742233378LMAO I wasn't expecting that hahahaThat's so good anon xDD
>>742233378Kek
ALL MY NIGGAS LIGHTNERS NIGGA HEIL GASTER
>>742233368ch5 is snowdin, since the nintendo switch exclusive version had a shrine and mew mew fight
> I wonder who the secret boss for ch 5 will be >Toby Fox
>>742233017In fact, most of the more popular heroes were irredeemable. Stealin' stuff, killin' for fun, not really carin' 'til it was a little too late. Everyone loves an anti-hero.Mostly 'cuz they've got real flaws. Real feelings. Real problems... Lets ya' get real close without ever havin' to live in their shoes! Geheh...That's the thing though. Far be it for a hero to be heroic, they'll just follow the hero's journey after all. Predictable, but satisfyin' enough. What about a villain's journey?Things start twistin' around... Loose ends crop up, the past comes crawlin' back and making hell for 'em. Messy, hard to write, but a real treat!'Cuz it's that much easier for a real person to be there for the ride.
I like that Susie holds Kris in aborted weird. It's a nice moment.
>>742232506based
>>742233350I'll kill Susie, and then Kris can live happily with Noelle.
>>742233368Chapter 5 is Snowdin. It fits perfectly in the theory>Festival is Snowdin Town>Flower Kingdom is Snowdin FOREST>Flowery is Papyrus (cool guy with poses that has an ego but is nice, doesn't kill you in his fight)>Flowers are Sans (The helpers that don't actually help at all)>Mad Mew Mew is Mad Mew MewPeople just don't see the snow and thus think it's done even though 3 didn't have any lava or lasers or anything about Hotland itself.
>>742233543Nothing it's just grassUnder it though
>>742227691>Frisk flirts with Toriel>Toriel in Deltarune is a huge slutHe wouldn't make it past the front door.
>>742233571>Hey Kris, remember when this game was good?
>>742233460Perfect
>>742230114I'll let you know once it's finally finished so I can be bothered to play the fucking thing.
>>742233368The Hospital's hidden underground meat factory, ice cold storage.Though the bunker also could be what flowery was alluding to.Weird Route cut off Kris from collecting the suicide seeds, whatever the implications of that may be.
>>742233523Mew x Maddy is good doe
>>742233616KekBased GasterBut Flowery was good
>>742226658I am sorta upset that the road rage driving Asgore memes didn't amount to anything, but I guess I can respect it not making its way into the game.
>>742233459dess is not a loser wtf
>>742232469travis................
>>742233630why is this in latinx
>>742233561forgot imageit was an irrelevant japanese-themed room also
>>742233616>The Kris in question
>hate every single milissecond where the flowers are on screen>at the very least they die so I don't have to put up with their immense faggotery anyomore>remember the big chungus reddit wholesome good ending will involve all dark worlds being saved or some shit>mfw the flowers will come back
>>742233291i never checked the info and drop text, mind sharing?
>>742233630puta
>>742233630Fuck off pedro
>>742233192>new home electric boogaloowhen is the froggit gonna pop up to tell me how I'm going to be free?
>>742230645It's more likely than you'd think
>>742233437>what did you think?>sent two hours laterWe got our ticket to Gasterland.
>>742233535The boss with the meta knowledge was the main one this time around. It's probably why the bonus boss had a simpler, more personal problem.
>>742233630these people will turn into a pretzel just to find reasons to be angry, I don't get it
>>742233698Cute Noelle
>>742233630>Toby Fox is lowkey misogynisticThey're right but for the wrong reason.
>>742233378I'm jammin
>Toby loves Live-A-Live>Kris obviously has Oersted parallels>Weird Route has you completely skip a chapter and defy the logical order>Chapter 7(the Final Chapter) explicitly has a B side for Weird RouteAre we gonna go back and play as the bosses?
>>742233687>Irrelavant japanese room in UT>Irrelevant japanese whole ass dark world in DRfuck you toby
meowwwrr stop-that youre making my body feel good you jerk!!
>>742233702The whole point of the game is to let go and accept reality. None of the dark worlds will return.
>>742233597Hey now, Frisk flirts with everyone. She doesn't like just the goat milf.
>>742233662It has a love of based art so I cant disagree
I really want more soul/kris hijinks, that bit with the angel last chapter was so fun
>>742233175Probably my favourite area theme
>>742232732There's something suspicious about the way he phrases progress on the boss bullets
So who the made the first dark world fountain?
>>742233543Considering it's just a copy of some grass, then it's likely that either whatever place it copied was evil or the act of copying it was evil
>>742233735God I'm glad Noelle has more depth than "Cute nice girl".Makes Kris's love for her all that more fucking tragic.
>>742233630Did they somehow miss the whole subtext about Kris and SOUL just to focus on the fact Mew is female?
>>742233630honestly (s)he has a point, Toby is based like that
>>742232958Chapter 1 - New HomeChapter 2 - The CoreChapter 3 - HotlandChapter 4 - WaterfallChapter 5 - SnowdinChapter 6 - Ruins if it takes place in the bunker, True Lab if it's in the hospitalChapter 7 - Same as above, but it could be something completely different too
>>742226658>Your dad's his best friend.English?
>>742233118>what i don't understand is why he started to set up berdly having clear character growth, only to seemingly throw it all out of the window to spite the fansit isn't "to spite the fans", Noelle went through the same thing (believing the Dark Worlds were nothing more than a dream and only unconsciously taking the lessons from it into the real world). Berdly is acting all tsundere about Susie and Kris, he doesn't actually hate them, and he's going to have an epiphany where he realizes the Dark World wasn't just a dream and he can act in the Light World as he did there
>>742233630
>>742233764>thinking deltarune will stick to its premise aftee Ch5: Niggeraids and filler
>>742233702I liked the flowers>Thanks for watching our dream
>>742230965There's a rimworld mod with UTDR soul, amalgamate and ascension mechanics that sort of tackles this. You need so many souls to become somewhat powerful that it's obvious what you're trying to do and most people team up to get the jump on you. Trying to become powerful enough to do that shit on the overworld would be like a random citizen stockpiling enriched uranium, ofc someone will come for your ass before you finish your master plan,
>>742233728I also think the idea the soul comes from an 'upper layer' already was touched up on.And yeah Flowery had bombs on the meta knowledge front. Maybe some of asgore's notes got absorbed to him kek.
>>742233750it's the 9th chapter but yeah, it's the same shit
>>742233630obvious bait is obvious
>>742233750I hope soOersted did nothing wrong and his ending is the canon one fuck those random niggers from random places and times
>my friend just changed his profile picture to Mew Mew Is he gay?
>>742233750>sick as fuck tierPlay as the shadow crystal schizos.>most likely outcomePlay as the Knight against Ralsei and Susie.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/608558How far can /v/ make it?
>>742233814Yes, it seems you need an English lesson.
>>742233849He's practically begging for your cock anon
>>742233826I don't think black people impede on Deltarune's premise, bro.
>>742233750i don't think the weird route will have a good ending either
does mew mew even mention freedom
>>742233814Okay listen up jeet's is a contraction. Do you what that is? No? Whatever. Dad's -> dad isyour dad is his best friend
>>742233849>Is he gay?I'm afraid it's way worse than that anon
>>742233849he will troon out soon
>>742232732according to those words chapter 6 is basically 70% complete. Why are they waiting 2027? To make it even more clear that toby is a closeted by waiting next pride month?
I wonder why they did mad mew instead of a red plantner soul schizoboss (who could easily have also been female)
>>742233849he wants your dick
>>742232670Unlike all the other goners he retained part of himself!Unfortunately it wasn't a good part.
Jevil DenialMew Mew - Anger (me)Spamton - Bargaining Knight / Eram - Depression Gerson - Acceptance
>>742233837>And yeah Flowery had bombs on the meta knowledge front. Maybe some of asgore's notes got absorbed to him kek.To be fair if the character based on Flowey didn't have meta knowledge there would be a riot.
>>742230114I have to be real and say that I'm naturally biased because out of either of the two, Deltarune is the one I actually got to experience first. I was a kid when UT came out and only saw it through joel's streams and playing the demo. Was too retarded and/or scared to try to pirate it. It was only til a few years ago that I tried UT, and a lot of the magic you'd expect was gone due to me being a bonfide little posing faggot as a kid. So, getting to experience deltarune blind, and continuing to do so, for all these years has made it hard for me really look at it objectively...But I feel even if I didn't have any bias, I'd consider it better just from a gameplay, music, graphics standpoint. Practically everything aside from the story, which to me is in equal quality to UT (aside from WR being more impactful than Geno ever was)
>>742233820i'd like to believe but i don't think berdly is going to return to the dark world
>>742233849He is, may allah forgive me for utter this, a weeb.
>>742233849>he
>>742233845But that isn’t even a good ending for him.
>>742233849Either that or he just wants to fuck her.
>>742233849>Is he gay?Short answer: yesLong answer: YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
>What if Kris plants the seeds in Undertale, the ones that Chara took back with them>What if Kris is secretly Gaster oOoOo time paradox :000
another chapter has come and gone without a hint of the vessel, half of hometown is missing. we've got two chapters left. where is my body toby? do you want me to hate Susie and that's the bad ending when I kill her? cause at this point it's looking pretty good! only I get to treat Kris like trash! probably gonna rename MY castle town and say she's in charge too. I can't stand it
Mew Mew has the freedom motif though
>>742233849Don't listen to their projections. Your friend just like to see a cute girl when seeing his own profile because she's hot.
>>742233923the way people throw around the word "pedophile" at literally anything is one of the most infuriating things about the modern internet
>>742233923Tobybros...it's over...
Any lines I missed you think I should add?
>>742233874escapism is her "freedom"
>>742233849He might be a tranny if liberal.
>>742233969It was discarded. You accepted that already.
>>742233992Anon, what you just said was so pedophile!
>>742233895Ohhh. I just couldn't unsee it as the possessive suffix.
>>742234014what are they kvetching abotu
Maybe because Mew Mew is a slave to the Nintendo Switch and wants to be free on all game consoles >Nintendo threatened Toby for that switch 2 spot
starwalker...why are you awake?
>>742233916>Something abominable by even goner standardsIm telling you the play is having it attack you in the lightworld after you stumble to a place you were never supposed to be (like the meat factory).Dunno if any of that will be in it.Watch there just never be any "meat factory" level.
>>742233118Berdly is still yurisupporter. You can be arrogant asshole, but you can't be a homophobe.
>Mew Mew is literally the most distilled version of irony-poisoned "this is the average anniemay character" imaginable, with dating sim elements and obnoxious tsudnere elements>the slop gets lapped upI don't get it. She's the weakest part of the chapter by far.
>>742233630oh no no no the toby engine bros????
>>742233923He's a lolicon which is why he made Frisk/Chara and Aqua
>>742233982
>>742233118>only to seemingly throw it all out of the window to spite the fans.You answered your own question right here.
>>742234053Innocent boys don't have MMF threesomes
>>742233849>Is he gay?Why being attracted to tsundere anime catgirl make one gay?
>>742233951Tragic part about him is that his plan had no end goal, he was just lashing out and winning meant nothing because it wasn’t what he wanted in the first place.
>>742233849He's a CHAD
>>742234076cat titties
>>742233865>>742233898>>742233905>>742233914>>742233950>>742233965>>742234034>if you like cute girls that means you're a faggot tranny!do you have anything to share with the thread, anons?
>>742234014he has an army of furnigger faggots as human shields. He doesn't care about negative criticism
>>742234014>literally caring about what niggers on (SOCIAL MEDIA) sayliteral nigger cattleworthless humansnever created anything of impor ever in their fucking livesthese people will never be happy because they choose not to be
>>742233969Unironically a good predictionI bet in Ch6 it's "Susie's Castle Town". Or maybe "Susie and Noelle's"
>Everyone hates Susie nowYup, Tricky Tony does it again
>>742234014>Toby badly writes yuri relationship>"OMG yay!">Toby writes female schizo boss meant to serve as a parallel to Kris and (YOU)>"OMG, Toby Fox is a sexist misogynistic pedophile who doesn't know how to write female characters"
>>742233969The Vessel is for Chapter 7.
>>742234091you can't be gay and enjoy girls
>>742234076She's an allegory of Kris and the SOUL fighting for control.This will be very relevant next chapter.
>>742234014>Never forget that Twitter bullied Toby into changing the ThornRing animation because they misinterpreted it as Kris deflowering Noelle
>>742233675Was funny when the sad version of his theme kicked in>Driving in my caaaaar>Right afteer a beeeeeeer
>>742234020where the fuck is jevil
>>742234162its because it gave the implication that noelle is the raped when its actually kris.
>>742234126You'd be right with most anime girls, but the amount of people saying they want to be Mew should at least make you raise an eyebrow
>>742234162>they misinterpreted it as Kris deflowering Noellenigger WE did that
>>742234076She's very honest at being the average anime character. So honest I thought the Body was retarded.I still do, but that's part of her charm.
What was he thinking at that moment?
>>742234126profile pic, anon
>>742233849>
>>742234076>>742234076>I don't get it. She's the weakest part of the chapter by far.nigger, the whole chapter was weakliterally nothing about the flowers mattered and everything that was important was in the final 15 minutesthe boss and the secret boss are two anime tropes, at least one of them has tits and you can flirt witht hem, no wonder people remember that part more
>>742233969>rename MY castle town That BITCHITS MY CASTLE TOWN, NOT KRIS'Sit's literally named after me!
>>742234076I feel like we've been over this with DDLC. Parody flies out the window when you create something heterosexual men enjoy.
hi
>>742234162Which didn't happen. The soul, I, deflowered Noelle not Kris.
>>742234076>the most distilled version of irony-poisoned "this is the average anniemay character" imaginable, with dating sim elements and obnoxious tsudnere elementsMaybe Tony is just into all that shit.
>>742234076>Deltarune fans can't readWhat is his major malfunction?
>>742234138>its called SuselleTown when you arrive in chapter 6
>>742233137https://files.catbox.moe/rmbvqz.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/j5rkuo.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/7zj44i.png
Come to think of it, Susie used Kris to get closer to Noelle. If it weren’t for Kris, she wouldn’t even have spoken to Noelle. And now that Susie has achieved her goal, Kris has become irrelevant and is just a fucking third wheel. Susie is stealing Kris’s childhood friend, whom he probably still loves. That’s fucking awful
>>742234162>twitterNigger that was us Also "bullied" is reading into the situation he probably just didn't like how the discourse looked and given that the game was still in dev he changed it
>>742234226>this is just like Team Fortress Mew...
>>742234014neither goose can.Dude made a manic pixie dream clown girl that loves and goes far above what would be expected of her for an unlovable misogynistic chud who completed the chud to tranny pipeline.
>>742233849YesWould be straight if it were Maddie though
>>742234226>She's leaving me behind.>If I rekindle her memories of our adventures, then maybe...
>>742234261the spirit mogs the body desu
>>742234218I literally have zero idea how anyone could've read it as deflowering. This is not the type of game to go there, lol.
>>742230114Yes and no. Objectively, Deltarune is the better game of the two. But I just can't click with it in the same way I did with Undertale.
>>742234226>mustsabotagesusiemustsabotagesusie
>>742234226>God I hate her so much, I want to be with her forever
>>742234325This was only a year ago, how fucking new are you?
>Straights like Mew Mew cuz she's a hot BPD bitch>Foids like Mew Mew cuz they wanna be idols>Troons like Mew Mew because it's easy to projectTotal Mew Mew victory
>>742234262That's literally not what happened. In chapter 2 she's oblivious when Noelle gives her the chalk and tells Kris they can't let Noelle into the dark world because "it's Kris and Susie's thing"
:(
>>742234262I'm going to kill Susie. She's the biggest obstacle for Kriselle.
>>742234253>You either have to like the annoying walking stereotype or you don't get the extremely obvious surface-level subtextWhat is HIS major malfunction?
>>742234309Sex with her as a ghost, dummy, or doll. Any version of her deserves to be turned into a whimpering slut.
>>742234208This. Kris was the raped because he is the most molested character of all time.
>>742230114Not a fair comparison. I'd say yes but I don't think anything's hit me harder than the final Asriel Dreemur fight where you SAVE himOf course we still have time for that and Weird Route>>>>Genocide Route
Remember the anons that said that the inferno of jealousy would be Noelle who got jealous from seeing Kris and Susie get too close?How time flies.
>>742230114Fangames remain superior.
Noelle sure never shuts up huh
>>742234226i've lost control of my life
>>742234325bro Toriel and Sans fuck at the end of CH 4, btw.the backlash was so bad Toby had to write an excuse into the very start of Chapter 5>"woops, Kris, hahah silly, you know where the backup key is at, hahaha, woah I need a honey toast im so hung ov- I mean hungry"
>>742233916
>>742234401Most raped character in history
>scythemaresusie knight confirmed
>>742234020yeah a line of cocaine u fuckin schizo.
>>742234226he definitely thought about it for at LEAST half a second
>>742230114I don't think that's possible because Undertale came out at a specific time of my life where i really needed a feel good game like that. Plus i really like how much more personal it is since you are alone through most of it
>>742234358?Even back then, the discourse was dumb. Only someone with zero media literacy would immediately think it's a deflowering metaphor. Even in context it didn't read like that.
>>742230114Yeah. Undertale was fun and all, but Deltarune is somewhat of a direct upgrade of everything I liked in the first game.
>>742234191Surprisingly, out of all his cryptic lines, nothing really implies time loop stuff. Maybe I could fit in>WHO KEEPS>SPINNING THE>WORLD>AROUND?but like that's about it. He does talk of future events, but he doesn't actually talk about loops that much. He never even says "The World Revolving" despite that being his song.
Your reaction?
>Noelle either ruins or enhances the gamer experience Noelle is the antichrist
Remember all the porn of rats fucking Noelle back when Chapter 2 came out?I'm not saying a chappy's value can be measured in meme material that comes from it, but Chapter 1, 2, and 3+4 had a lot more memes and OC about it
>>742233630This game is the most LGBT game ever made and they still can't stand the thought of one straight character being powerful.
>>742234447it's not an excuse for Torielit's meant to tell the player "Kris was lying about not having the key"there has been shit happening offscreen
>>742234226>as part of my elaborate plan to fool the player I'm going to pull out my knife and deceptively time my going behind the shop to make it appear as if I was responsible for this dark fountain
>>742234371The description of the families all together and laughing at little Noelle grabbing Kris's ear made my heart hurt in a way that I didn't know was still possible.
>>742234157>The meat factory is in the hospital, but it is meant for ch 7>Sudden event redirects you to it (Rudy dying) >NormalNPC is seen guarding something... in the hospital>Rudy dead>Could go deal with the castletown deal>BUt you get curious>FInd there is a way to bypass NormalNPC to get to the basement>NormalNPC loses their shit over this and attacks you in the basement>A tense fight where you can't take more than a couple hits against something that gets incrementally greyer with less health before being just a static statue in the overworld.>See a door and find there is a meat factory under the hospital.>Some security puzzles, but then you see the vessel.Probably too alt. route so it wont happen but my brain wanted to think it.
It's been years and I still can't stop jerking to goats.
>>742230114Yeah, I didn't play undertale until chapter 3 and 4 came out for deltarune and I finally gave in and tried themDeltarune is not just more polished but also has a shitton of charm, undertale felt like it had a lot more blatant padding but I can't say I ever disliked any sequence hereI did adore undertale's whole pacifism schtick, that was a highlight and I hope toby knows that's what people loved about UT and the whole "nothing matters thing" is dumb (I know the game tells you that outright but so did flowey in UT)
>>742234496It's so over...
>>742234425Honestly want to hear as to why, because it feels like most fags I've seen have been critical about them. Even the one you can argue is the best (yellow) has anons on /vg/ and the stealth threads on /v/ who are unanimous about the ending being awful
>>742233368Both Chapters 4 and 5 are Waterfall, just different halves of it in reverse order:>Chapter 4 is the 2nd half, full of water and dark corridors, plus you meet Gerson>Chapter 5 is the other half of Waterfall, with flowers and tall grass, plus you meet Mew MewChapter 6, regardless of where it takes place, will represent Snowdin. I think the Holiday Mansion is the safest bet, but given Rudy's health the Hospital is also a safe betChapter 7 is absolutely the Shelter, which represents the Ruins, a place most people don't live in anymore and is separated from everything else by a sturdy door... at least, in the normal route, but in the Weird Route it's at the bottom of the lake where you'll find Dess
>>742234226Do it
>>742234496>They're cucking him>And then they're gonna cuck me>Oh my Goooooooood
did tony really fucking kill my waifu
>>742234480look man you gotta lurk before you post, it sounds like you just got here a few months ago
>>742234447I also thought that was dumb. People really took one scene of Toriel getting drunk, and having fun and called her a bad mom? It's ridiculous. I felt bad for Kris, but its literally like people expect Toriel to be perfect.
>>742234556I ate her and fed her to Susie and noelle too
>>742234527That sounds kind of gay though...
>>742231094Kris ultimately hates Suselle, but cares about each of them too much to intervene (or allow You to intervene either).
>>742234531They don't ruin their characters like Toby did.
>>742234496
>>742234496>heh they only touched the surface
>>742233414theyre poisonous
>>742234447if its an excuse why is she still a bitch that fucked sans so much that kris couldn't sleep
>>742234535If he is "fallen down" as in the monster state of coma before death, maybe he gets moved to the holiday manor on hospice.
>>742234496Not shocked at all, I knew from Chapter 2 that the only way to stop that would be to get Weird.
>>742234578you DEMON
>>742234565Fair enough.
>>742234386>Doesn't like the game>Keeps playingJokes write themselves
>>742234619Seriously where is he
>That blue and yellow faster follower from Undertale ate the one Octopus that could have saved Kris and NoelleWhat Gaster planning?
>>742233845Oersted went overboard, but he was right offing that faggot ""friend"" of his and his traitorous waifu then sending them to PUNISHMENT JAIL
new strategy where I be nice to the enemies before freezing them so they die happy>>742234518I cried when I read through the king/queen voting dialogue, unironically
>>742233750man, i need to finish this game
>>742234496>damn that's some cute artwork>and cute music>all this is gonna crash down around Susie so bad later>Kris is getting what he wanted when he signed up to help Susie get Noelle, some good pure suffering>I wonder how my weird route date with Noelle is going to be, will it mirror this and have her carry Kris like that or something?
>>742234371Susie will steal all those happy memories and replace them with new ones.
>>742234496For people coping that Suselle is toxic or whatever, the lake is symbolic for suicide. Susie carries her through but Noelle tells her life might be worth living with her. She also gains the strength to stand up for herself.Weird route Noelle is beaten down to the point she feels nothing matters and that not of her relationships are real so she essentially kills herself while being completely reliant on your power.
>>742234496>Kris you understand both of them well enough to know this is doomed by design.>Why are you pretending to sleep through it?>Is this teenage romcom supposed to further your conspiracy...?
>>742234612hahah, silly she was just having a joke contest all night long while making lots of loud obnoxious noises hahah
>>742234582Yes.
>>742234496Annoying, especially since I've been trying to romance Noelle for the entire game.I know the game says in the very first chapter "your choices don't matter" but I didn't think the main character would be strung along THIS hard.
>>742234518Kriselle is too adorable. It's the objectively correct route between the hammer game, glass visions, weird route being the canon path from Sans picture, and their childhood antics
>>742234641>Dislike one character in the game>That means you dislike the entire gameWhat, do people who hate that walking niggerflower hate the entire game game too?
>Deltarune fans coming up with the most Schizophrenic theory possible for Ch 6
>>742234496I just felt vague unease because I don't like love or public displays of affection.
>>742234589>They don't ruin their characters like Toby did.Deltatraveler, one of the bigger fangames, is literally known for writing the characters so OOC that it's the first thing mention when talked about. That, and the creator being a troon. Similar with PS!Outertale writing some characters poorly (i.e. Sans)And with yellow? Plenty of people say it's a disservice to the cast to let Clover kill himself.So, you got me a bit lost with your reply there, bud.
>>742234729not during snowgrave she wont
is there a single personn in this fucking game that doesn't seem like they are going to backstab youthere are not enough backs for the number of knivesi can't think of a character that isn't plotting something offscreenat least Susie cucks you to your face
>>742234496Genuine disgust
>kris lowers his head more here:(
>>742234741i mean my point still stands, asshatkris didn't get to sleep
>>742234330Only being able to experience something for the first time is a real factor. Its why people tend to like "the first one" more
>>742234517>deceptively time my going behind the shop to make it appear as if I was responsible for this dark fountainBut he was?There were two fountains. One upstairs and one downstairs. He made that one to draw them in. He needed a way to prove Asgore for getting carried off AND a way to consciously remove the code which would have been accomplished by destroying Flowery in the dark world.
THINK ABOUT IT. 2 GASTER FOLLOWERS? GASTER HAS BEEN WATCHING US AND PLAYING US THE WHOLE TIME!
>>742233854>>742233750(You) and Kris (Normal) will fight (You) and Kriselle (Knight).How will it work? Dunno yet.
>>742234447I can't believe Toriel even said she would have let Kris spitroast her with Sans if he came down and asked
Do you guys really think Toby Fox browses the /v/ threads?
>>742234843Berdley. He's a bro
>>742234843Lancer? Queen?
>>742234076I feel like a large part of it comes down to liking Kris and wanting to date Kris at a moment when Kris has been beaten, dragged, humiliated, betrayed, turned on, ostracized, made into a peon, hurt, demoralized.It's like that moment in movies/shows where the main character realizes the Stacy he was chasing after wasn't worth it and the nice girl who still likes him even at his lowest moment is right there... only in this case Kris got cockblocked in the most infuriating way. Now everyone was just loudly yelling at the screen NO, WAIT, IT WAS REAL, IT WAS REAAAAAL.
NOELLE AND KRIS BREAKING THE GAME IS WHAT GASTER WANTSWE FELL INTO HIS HANDS
>>742233750i honestly think both routes (normal and WR) are connected or are going to converge into the same outcome from different perspectivesthe climax is the same but you get to choose who winsi just don't know how it would work
>>742234732the lake is about freedom, anon. the game spells it out for you.in the normal route she's given an illusion.susie goes kneedeep, but thats as far as it goes. and noelle never touches the water.and they literally hear the ring of heaven's call while doing it, a sign that another prophecy step has been completed.noelle will never get what she really wants, only led on while everything stays on the tracks.in the weird route, she's lucid enough to truly see just how railroaded everything is.and she knows that kris/(you) are strong enough to let her jump off the track and run away from it all.
>>742234657Behind you
>>742234843/ourgamer/ would never betray us
>>742234950Does it matter? The rigged game sucks so if he wants the game broken then good
Seriously though, where do you see the story going?
>>742234898>White Cloak sprite changes to a white deer when a var is changed>monster that mirrors Kris (Knight) changes to a black deer when a var is changedI'm nooooooooticing.
>>742234732>Susie carries her through but Noelle tells her life might be worth living with her. She also gains the strength to stand up for herself.>Weird route Noelle is beaten down to the point she feels nothing matters and that not of her relationships are real so she essentially kills herself while being completely reliant on your power.I'm so glad this is all just a fucking simulation. They're mindlessly following the prophecy. Let this fucking fake world burn. We're getting the hell out of this nightmare with Noelle.
>>742234978IT DOES MATTER. GASTER IS THE VILLAIN
>>742234932My king...
>>742233137That because Mew Mew was release as an addon promotion for undertale when everyone and their mom already finish it. Mew Mew is now being shown, day one, in a new game.
>>742234496>fuck this, I'm starting the weird route
>>742234985can we see it
dont call her that yet
>>742234732>the lake is symbolic for suicide.you are actually brain damaged.
>>742234414I did bet on that, but it wasn't "Kris and Susie get too close", it was that Susie would spend the chapter fretting over Kris because of how chapter 4 ended and Noelle would misinterpret the same way she has been for three chapters.How was I to know Susie didn't give a fuck and just decided her friendship with Kris is not worth worrying about?
>>742234732What about the halfway symbolism on the relationship tester/ferris wheel
>>742234810>Deltatraveler>PS!OutertaleThey're not from here.>YellowThe ending was bad, but it's like one or two scenes at the very end of the game. Deltarune only got worse and worse.>only one ending? sorry lol let me add another path>now get a full chapter made of filler but it's intentional so it's good! also the boss is a mandatory loss>Let me drag this dark world for hours and make the final boss a voiceless being of pure destruction and destroy any aura the titans had>no asgore fight and actually the cat telegraphed wasn't friend>also what if we changed all of susie's character to make my yuri fetish canon and get money from lgbtqia people
There is only way to stop Gaster…
>>742234958If looping theory is real, then it may be some kind of choice about what happens in the next loopMaybe they can't free themselves this loop, but maybe little nudges over the loops may be enough to break free one day
>>742235020Kay. Then I'll just kick his ass too and take Deltarune for myself. I paid 25 dollars for it anyway!
>>742234960It’s both. Freedom isn’t free, there’s no coming back from the other side of the lake
>>742234982Everyone is puppeteering Susie, she is going to have a crashoutshe is essentially the sacrificial lamb of the story. Even in the WR i believe you'll have to kill her
>>742234527moar?
? What the fuck was she on about? This whole scene was just random romance dialogue GLUED together.
>>742235118
>>742235154I straight up skipped it holding all the buttons kek
>>742235120She deserves it for being so stupid
>>742235156>>742235118FUCKING SLUT
>>742233139>* There is a hole at the centre of your mind.
>>742234982Madoka timeloops where Kris is Homu
>>742234014Man who gives a fuck, these people are creatively bankrupt and can only validate their existence by attacking others work.
>>742235156Susie ditching Kris and Ralsei to hang with Flowery honestly pissed me off almost as much as the cucking.
>>742234732>The lake is symbolic for suicideThe lake is the barrier to Freedom>She also gains the strength to stand up for herselfNot really. Weird Route reveals what she really wants. Noelle only likes Susie's fake persona same way Susie likes Noelle's fake persona. They are both objectively seeking different things. Susie desires stasis while Noelle desires Freedom
Aqua>Green>Seth>Yellow(Blue is not around)>Orange>Yellow (Blue is around)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Blue>Dropped out so one of his friends could win: Flowery
>>742235154I mean it's very simple>before I met you my life was miserable and I wished I was somewhere far far away because I hate it here>now that I know you you make me happy so I don't feel like that anymore Just because you're mashing through dialog and not trying to get it because you don't like the ship doesn't make it nonsensical.
>>742235154Anon, Dess also "left".
>>742235213It's not her fault, she was designed to be the villain's stupid lackey
>>742234076>She's the weakest part of the chapter by far.Not even close
>>742235118Imagine if Kris had actually stood up like that and pulled out his knife.
why not?
>ralsei is just a cuntfaggot to orange the entire time
>>742235156How did Flowery get Susie to wear the reimu ribbon again? Through sheer rizz?
>>742234657seriously, probably a nothingburger
>>742233908He wants the wait to feel lesser when he releases chapter 7 on1 12.25.27
>>742235308Dickhead Ralsei was fun and I hope he goes full Flowey mode in the future
m-mewmew?
>>742235267>>before I met you my life was miserablefucking liar...
>>742233368Since the crazy dummy/mad mew shows up it's garbage dump
>>742235263Bumping into the duck by accident was such a great discovery and made things so easy. Very cute too
>>742235037She also looked like a freak in-game and only Temmie's art was cute.
>>742235304did you buckbreak her yet? no?then get back there
>>742235253Susie never beating the "she cares more about collecting friends than actually being good friends" allegations.
>>742233565Toby please don't fuck with us again in the next chapter like this
>>742235308WHY IS SHE A MOUSE?
>>742235308You're not supposed to say the H word to him.
>>742235308Ralsei needed to vent his anger, so the less "human" looking Flower took the brunt of it.He knows how to smell weakness.
>>742235348No. The cactus
>>742234843Onion was our only true ally and he got killed for knowing too much.
>>742235383Get your eye's checked she's human not a mouse
>>742235267>t.Kys Suselletroon
>>742235348No, the cactus that symbolizes Noelle.
>>742235348It's the cactus
>>742235383That's a human, retard
when the fuck does normalNPC show up at the beach? i'm on ch4 and nothing
>>742235256Twisted sword is the route to freedom, people are so desperate to break out the cage they don’t realise they’re escaping into something worse
>>742235394
>>742235383Nigga she's a human.
>>742235376Everything's fine as long as Susie gets to do whatever she wants on her conditions.
>>742235383Because Kris finds themself similar to a mouse.
>>742235359actually, side B confirms this
>>742232612It's fairly easy to make an abandoned variation versus say the weird route previously. You really just need have a flag set that changed Noelle's dialogue (among others) possibly adding more black screens, and you have the occasional gastor follower show up.Obviously Snowgrave as a spell is active earlier.It's gonna piss people off when the trigger is only Susie at low HP not Kris cause she's mad at (you) nor Ralsei because Darkners are just NPCs
And THEN it said "Wait, don't. Wait... don't!!!"
>>742235454Freedom's freedom bitch
see? we're having fun
>>742235308Not his fault Orange is a bitch
>>742235348Has anyone actually delivered on a no flirt playthrough besides either Mizzle or MewMew? I'm guessing there's no unique dialogue or else people would post it in response to Susie cockblocking. In that case it's a shame since it's the kind of pointless achievement easter egg Toby would usually include
>>742235359Chapter 5 Weird Route does confirm Noelle has been fucking miserable for a long time even before the events of the game. She longs for actual control over her life and normal route aint it
>>742235267>>before I met you my life was miserable and I wished I was somewhere far far away because I hate it here...and that changed within just two days of hanging out for a few minutes?
>>742235424I fucking wish, so I could enjoy it, but no, I'm a krisellefag but I'm also a realist and this is the thing that baffles me. I dislike suselle because it is superficial and bland compared to the other character dynamics, clearly written for them to be easily in love with eachother, but anons shit their pants because it's poorly written or they come up with some cope about susie being brainwashed by the prophecy or toby fox being dead. It's the most basic straght point A to point B relationship ever. Just accept that he sucks at writing canon romance and leave it at that.
>>742235561Just the two of us
>>742235462It's a real thing?I did the date with Aqua and Kris then skipped all of them so I wouldn't know.
>>742234406Actually you SAVE Chara who then SAVES Asriel according to Toby.
>>742235595No, but she wants to believe
>>742235632Yeah, but you need to beat Pink to get Orange in the café
>>742235359All she did was study with Berdly and get so bored of playing the same video games for the other 100 years she started intentionally finding game-breaking bugs and responding to spam email
>>742235595Devil's advocate here, but they spent most of Festival's day together.
>>742235595Yes? She's delusional thinking Susie is her ticket to change. Won't last a day though.
>>742235632Yeah it's real. Orange also trolls Ralsei more about stuff like the hat thing which makes him seethe
>>742235619We can make it if we try
>>742235595nigger, you are being purposely obtuse, you either haven't played the game or you have retardationimagine finding proof that you are literally an NPC with a pre-determined path and someone comes down and offers you a way out
>>742234076It's ok because based Flowery came in and was played completely straight and it was kino
>>742234261>https://files.catbox.moe/7zj44i.pngi need double catgirl paizuri NOW
>>742235595more or less, I mean Kris and Susie also became soul mates 4 life in a matter of mere days. That's just how teenagers in a small town act. Do consider that they've known eachother. Obviously all three are very fragile bonds but Noelle's yearning for Susie has existed for a long time and has been established all the way in Chapter 1
>>742235383Because MadMewMew is a cat.
>>742235489>>742235585>but crash out manic noelle said-And you believed her warped views?
>>742235308She's human btw.
>>742235717>imagine finding proof that you are literally an NPC with a pre-determined path and someone comes down and offers you a way outAre you talking about Normal route or Weird route? Because Noelle doesn't find that out in Normal route, she feels she's living life on autopilot but literally following an pre-determined path is just Weird route stuff and then she knows the one who offers a way out is Kris not Susie.
>>742235764You're right anon she's just making things up there and it all has absolutely nothing to do with how she's been feeling or what she was thinking beforehand
LOL
>>742235595To be fair this entire game has these teens experience the most important bonds and moments of their life in the span of like 5 days
>>742235764she basically says the same thing in both lake scenes but with different points of view. I think you're just experiencing your own version of deltarune in your head instead of what you're actually playing.
>>742235785She becomes white in the Dark World...?
having sex with flowery would be good for ralsei's character development
>>742235814>every version of Deltarune is personalizedSo if I unistall and install the game enough time I'll find a version with the real Mike, right?
>>742233849my friend just changed his profile picture to Maddie, is he gay?
>>742235726>>742235812I feel like that's not a fair equivalence considering Kris and Susie also went on these incredible mind blowing fantasy adventures with drama, betrayals and life threatening risk, that revealed to them everything they've ever known wasn't the full story (not counting the possibility that Kris already knew). As opposed to just hanging out at home talking about videogames and then visiting a fair.
>>742233168I can't NOT love anything that makes Pikmin-like sounds.
>>742234114There are people that think that Mad Ghost is a guy
>>742232449hypothetically, if we had Kris get with mewmew, would /we/ then be a third wheel cuck?
>>742235819Wouldn't you?
>>742235898She a troon icon
>>742235940No. Unlike what most fanartists depict, I expect Mew Mew to stay fused but act tsundere as fuck.
>>742235940It'd be a double date. (You) date Maddie while Kris goes with Mew
>>742235928But that's exactly why Susie likes Noelle, she becomes a safe person to return to to wind down from the stress and anxiety of her adventures, which she doesn't do with Kris thanks to the roaring plan. That's why she wants to invite her to the closet dark world, because she wants to have all of her comforts in one place. Obviously, this will not work.
>>742235940No we'd be the fourth wheel on the SUV
>>742235928People that suffer disaster, adventure, put their lives in danger, and tragedy tend to bond together. This turns bullies or people that hate each other into comrades.
>>742235940no cuz (You) can then just date Maddie
>>742235943No. I'm proud to be a Darkner.
>>742235940I don't really care because in this game, I do not have a penis and can't even verbally communicate on my own. So I'm just Kris' guardian angel an' shit. That he sometimes hits with a hockey stick because our guarding is... troubled.
For your considerationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQskogtH678
>>742230114Yes it's not even close.
>>742236089How is that a problem?
>>742236043>But that's exactly why Susie likes Noelle, she becomes a safe person to return to to wind down from the stress and anxiety of her adventures, which she doesn't do with Kris????
>>742236109Go back inside the balloon
>>742235075I refuse to take your point seriously by the sole fact that not only are you moving goal posts, but the fact that your points are just utter dogshit. Next time, actually use your brain and don't enter threads for games that make you mad, okay? I know this is /v/ and we're all retarded, but you don't need to act like one all the time, anon.
>>742235940I don't want to smooch Maddie. Mew would be a different story, but unlike some BACKSTABBING, RETARDED, PROPHECY-CONTROLLED, HOMELESS LIZARD my integrity prevent me from robbing Kris' waifu.
>>742236180Come on Kris you know you can use my help, just open up and spill the beans about your plan and let me help!
>>742236167you just stopped reading my post there, wow. >thanks to the roaring plan.>thanks to the roaring plan.>thanks to the roaring plan.Even if Susie and Kris DO have moments of downtime, they are sparse and seldom happen thanks to Kris specifically choosing to commit to his promise with the knight.Jesus this board is illiterate.
>>742236162...he didn't say it as a problem kek
>>742236193Why are you even interacting with fangametards? It's been known for a while they don't like Deltarune proper.
>>742236043>thanks to the roaring plan.Which she doesn't know about, and still chills with Kris anyway.
>>742236261That's a stupid fucking point and it's not that I didn't read it, it's that I left it out because it doesn't matter.Susie doesn't fucking know about the plan, so how could it possibly be affecting her rest? Are YOU illiterate, you big fucking retard?
sorry bro
>>742234810>PS!OutertaleIs that shit good? Is it complete?
I love cat girls
>>742236338You actual imbecile. At what moment did I insinuate that Susie was in on the plan? I'm referring purely to Kris. Kris is pushing Susie away because of his plans and that is one of the reasons why Susie is getting closer to Noelle. Do you need me to use an image illustration or did it get through your thick, iron skull?
>>742235898You should fuck him.
>>742236449Pussy girls
>>742236505>At what moment did I insinuate that Susie was in on the plan?THE FUCKING MOMENT YOU SAID SUSIE DOESN'T ACTUALLY REST WITH KRIS BECAUSE OF THE PLAN, YOU FUCKING BONOBO?Holy fuck, I'd tell you to eat a shotgun shell and splatter your brains on your wall, but it's clear you don't have any.
>>742236512But in a straight way, I assume?
>>742236437NTA, it's complete.It's basically Undertale in space with the same characters in the same place, but the layout is completly different due to being space instead of underground, most of the dialogue changed, naturally...Omega Flowey was a lot different due to being a star.Genocide was very different too.All in all you should play it if Undertale is a bit blurry in your mind.
>>742236587You can't read a sentence and then you get mad and chimp out. There's nothing more to say to you. You are simply less than human.
>>742235898>my friendwe all know you mean yourself you fag
Let me grow arms so I can grab Kris and get him some proper real friends.
>>742236679>You are simply less than human.Raly, cool it with the casual racism.
>>742236679>Uhm, why doesn't Susie care as much about Kris as Noelle despite going through so much more with him?>Because she gets to rest with Noelle!>But she did that with Kris too, more often even.>It didn't count because Kris' plan ruined it!>But she doesn't know about the plan, why would it affect her opinion of Kris?>*incoherent monkey babble*Kill yourself.
>>742236505>>742236587it's not that serious, niggas
>friend change profile picture to Noelle>"haha you want to fuck the doe">"No, I just feel like she's literally me.">"lmao whatever dude">play chapter 5>mfw SAY ITbros how do you fix someone like Noelle?
>>742232115>You gaze through the crystal...>For a second, you saw yourself with wings of rainbow glass smiling warmly back at you.
>>742236683is that a yes?
>>742236783again, you didn't understand anything I said. Try reading with your eyes instead of your rectum
>>742233143where was the fucking INFERNO TOOBYYYYY
>>742236841>dudewon't be a dude for much longer
>friend changes profile picture to RalseiHe's gay, isn't it?
>>742236875the mirror shards definitely made me think of that too
>>742232837The only moment where choosing a gay couple wasn't the good ending
