>>742254606
Team the mod did nagash better than the shitty powercreep ai slop coded shit that'll be in the dlc and overpriced

>>742254606
thanquol soon friend

>>742255251
Thanqual will bethe last one shown

>>742254606
Thanquol has all the star power, I guarantee he'll be the last lord revealed and it'll be alongside the DLC release date and preorder link. In fact I'm so certain that if Thanquol is revealed today I will commit to playing an entire campaign with Aranessa, Khatep, Khalida, Daniel, Changeling, or whatever even more shitty lord the thread desires, to all three VCO objectives, and post my progress right here for as long as the thread survives.

>>742255723
daniel, full domination victory

>>742254606
Is there a structured end times campaign in this game yet? I haven't played it in like 3-4 years. Last time I remember playing it Mortal Empires was nothing more than a demolition derby of a campaign just an endless amount of niggers smashing into each other with 0 structure, rhyme, or reason.

>>742255883
The sandbox campaign IS the game. There is a more structured singleplayer campaign but it's so dogshit it nearly killed the game altogether. It's also abandoned by the devs, they don't even bother adding the new factions to it any more. If you want more objectives and narrative in your game, I strongly suggest you install VCO and Legendary Lore, you'll never look back afterwards.

>>742255883
The end game is winning. Not sure why you need a specific campaign for that.

>>742254606
>The update and DLC will be on Summer
>Oh so June, right?
>right?

>>742256104
Australian summer.

>>742256017
I kind of just want a system with more structure. The way it is right now it's like playing empire total war but Dagestan somehow becomes a major player. I just want things set up a little bit more where there is a clearer divide between major and minor factions and everyone gets to eat before dozens of great nations meet in the middle and fight each other. Total War campaigns always have this issue where certain nations do nothing, certain nations just snowball and dominate the earth, some nations are just in weird places and build pretty big empires but have literally 0 presence in the grand scheme of things and are isolationist and then you just end up steamrolling them etc.
For example the Norscans in the original Warhammer are just an absolute nuisance a total pain in the ass that never goes away until end game there is no point to their existence beyone shitting up my campaign map. I don't know how the balance is rn but I just distinctly remember whenever I would play the campaign the human factions would just get run the F over and the Bretonnians were just dog food and never amounted to anything because the CPU cannot pilot them same goes for Chaos the CPU just could not make Chaos work beyond the old scripted campaigns where they just spawn in with a dozen armies and break stuff.

>>742254606
No Nagash, NO buy

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>>742256338
Nagaash and Boris already confirmed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPIpN9OKKR4

>>742256492
Are they playable in the game? NO.
I dont mean the mods, I mean an official CA Nagash.
CA can go fuck themselves until im able to load up an unmodded WH3 IE and cleanse the world as our skelepope NAGASH!!
How many Christmases and Birthdays did Arkhan the oppressed POC have to spend alone? Arkhan deserves to have his friend back, we deserve to play as that friend.

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What killed the hype?

>>742258673
CA is just really poor and marketing and communication desu

Even TW40k is recieving... no updates

>>742258673
Hype tends to go down after a company starts blatantly cutting their updates into three pieces and selling each one for full price.

If you mean about the Glottkin in specific, why should anyone care? They're nobody characters that are introduced in a bad book and then die in that same book. They could be replaced by a generic Great Unclean One and the events would play out mostly the same.

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>>742258673
CA themselves did. We know this shit is on a skeleton crew because 40k will bring in the battered housewife audience that will be more than happy with the Shadows of Change treatment which is CA's wet fucking dream.
There is no hype because this DLC is going to break half the game and then CA will move on to the infinite money printer cult and leave Warhammer 3 with the vast majority of its potential unrealized.

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>>742254606
RAT RAT RAT RAT RAT

As much as I love this series, at this point I just want them to drop it and fully focus on one game. WH3 is an insane mess of spaghetti code right now and is so limited by the power of its engine that adding more onto it will just break it even further. Just put these people to work on 40K so you can make it the best it can possibly be and move on.

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I wish we got to fight orks in space marine 2

>>742260307
but we already raped them in the first game

>>742256338
nagash was WEAK, witness TRUE POWAH

>>742258673
Nurgle is overexposed compared to the other Chaos Gods

>>742255245
I want them to design Nagash off that one model that was unironically made wrong on purpose as a joke

>>742260369
Nagash is going to eat the 4 gaylords of buttsex, step on the horny rat, absorb sigmar and all the faggy elf gods.
*laughs in giant skeleton*
Nothing can stop death, fool!

>>742260332
Would just be nice to have another faction to fight in operations. I get that it wouldn't work, with ops being interwoven into the story. An ork or necron expansion would have been neat though.

>>742260307
I wish they made a game like Space Marine but from a diffrent factions perspective. Even if they cheaped out and let you play as the orks or chaos invading in SM1, let you be a tyranid in SM2
I want to be a Necron just waking up and you have to clear out some undesirables from your galaxy

>>742255883
It's arguably worse now in 3. In 2, you had narrative chapter objectives to work towards and a campaign flyover like we had in Rome 2 but they got rid of that for some reason in 3. Warhammer 3 lacks soul.

>>742260807
Sorry but the NPC masses are only interested in playing as a space marine. because the other factions dont have nearly as much content so GW won't make more content for them therefore people will continue playing SMs and GW will continue making content for them

>>742260807
>Wake up one day
>Your hive is under attack
>All your friends and family start dying
>bang bang bang
>A dude rocking up in massive suit looks at you

>>742260807
Not a lot of games get made that allow you to play from an evil perspective. It'd be a good fit for 40k though. Imperium has so many asshole factions to throw at a plucky band of orks or chaos marines.

>>742256871
They're both playable in this official dlc

>>742261275
Playable right now, roght this very second? I think NOT.
Why does CA hate Nagash so much? What was his crime?
Enjoying a meal? A succulent warpstone meal??

Nigga hail nagash

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Reminder that this is the futute Nagash wants

can someone itt explain to me what i get if i buy total warhammer 3 on sale without any dlc

>>742254606
I wouldn't be surprised if Ind and Kuresh are still closed when game goes into EoS

>>742262203
You get 3 Kislev factions, 4 chaps monogods and 2 Cathay factions. Everything else is by buying DLCs and previous games or do what any paradox player does

>>742262203
Unless something has changed or I'm forgetting something, you'll get
>Base rosters of Warhammer 3 races (Kislev, Cathay, Nurgle, Tzeentch, Khorne, Slaanesh, Deamons of Chaos)
>3 Kislev LLs
>2 Cathay LLs
>1 Tzeentch LL (WHERE IS EGRIMM YOU FAKING BASTARDS)
>2 Nurgle LLs
>2 Khorne LLs
>2 Slaanesh LLs
>Deamons of Chaos' customisable LL
All monogods but Tzeentch have on FLC LL that I think you'll get automatically. These days you should also be able to play Immortal Empires straight from the get-go.
The monogods are a bit rough without Champions of Chaos, since the base rosters are basically just the deamon units

>>742262436 (me)
>All monogods but Tzeentch have on FLC LL that I think you'll get automatically
I'm counting these in that list btw, that's why the numbers are different from that other anon

>>742262436
Anon... Egrimm is an unusual location. He won't be implemented

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>>742262734
no... it cannot be...

>>742262075
>Reminder that this is the futute Nagash wants
And its beautiful

>Total War 40k
>We got Marines
>We got Guard
>We got Orks
>Chaos? Necrons? Tyranids?
>Nope, here's gay ass space elves who don't fit the playstyle
The fuck was CA thinking?

>>742263792
>who don't fit the playstyle
Nigger please, kiting with light skirmish units has been in these games since forever, Eldar will just have long range, big dmg and squishy vehicles with speed and manoeuvrability.

>>742263792
On the bright side, we get to kill eldar sooner

>>742263792
>space elves who don't fit the playstyle
I have no idea what you mean by "fitting the playstyle", but they're probably there because 1) they're a popular race, and 2) their playstyle will likely be different from the other three
Their Warhammer Fantasy games also have base races that offer relatively varying playstyles. Guard and Orks are hordes of different kinds (ranged vs. melee heavy roughly speaking), while Marines and Eldar will be more elite armies from different sides

>>742263939
I mean the overworld gameplay anon, Eldar don't take territort or build Empires, they just float around waiting for someone to kill them.
And yeah in battles they're gonna be annoying as fuck to fight too

>>742264067
Hordes existed in TWW for a long time, anon

>>742264238
Yeah anon AND THEY FUCKING SUCKED TO PLAY AS AND WOULD DIE WITHIN TEN TURNS AS NPCS

>>742264067
But it's Craftworld Eldar, they're just gonna be a horde. Big ass craftworld to move around the galaxy, pillage planets for resources, help or hinder mon keigh as you see fit. I'm not worried about the gameplay, I'm more worried about how they'll implement diplomacy in that game because unlike Fantasy where you could see alliances between different races for reasons, 40K is much more intolerance focused.

Chaos fayozz

Is this a new campaign or overhauling the old content? The latter usually just makes the game worse.

>>742264238
>>742264391
The Eldar aren't going to be a horde, from an article I read around the time of the announcement I got the impression that the craftworld is a super-city that exists outside of the map and you dispatch fleets around using the webway. Didn't say anything about whether or not the craftworld can be attacked but I'd guess probably not.

>>742258673
bharatjeeta instead of Yin Yin

>>742254606
>check steam to see if 3 is on sale
>it is
>it's already in my library
>no play time on it
what the fuck? my brain is going
anyway Thanquol please

>>742265341
They gave it away for "free" if you had one of the previous games

>>742265692
at least I didn't pay for it
>free
how bad did they fuck up the launch of three then? is it better now?

>>742264795
>The solution to the Horde issue is to just give them an privaye special super province that nobody else can attack
This REALLY isn't helping their case when you could just have Necrons or Chaos with proper empire building instead.

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>>742254606
I'm holding out hope for classic Thanquol and Boneripper but my heart tells me we're going to get the End Times version with the stupid warpstone horns.

>>742262075
>ORIENTAL
>CALCIUM
>ATMOSPHERIC
>KINO

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>>742266415
I want to see a line of these fuckers smash into a horde of Skavem.

>>742265808
Just like 2 they didn't have immortal empires ready to go at launch so the campaigns felt very samey with just Kislev, Cathay, Ogres, and the Daemons.

>>742265808
3 was basically scraping the bottom of the barrel for new factions. Kislev is a meme nobody cared about, Daemons have never really been popular on their own, Cathay didn't really exist before 3, and Ogres were also a bit of a meme but less than Kislev.

>>742262075
some Sugmar stuff is kind of cool. I hope it gets a good game eventually

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>>742261851

STREAM UP

>>742267483
Amuseingly enough Nagash's actual respons was "i would have done the same if i were you"

>>742267749
Was the before or after he threw Mannfred into the swamp of eternal agony?

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>>742254606
>weve been working on AI
These people have been trying to fix the AI since the game launched. What the fuck

>>742254606
Can they just focus on medieval 3? Tired of all this warhammer bullshit

>>742268164
they have to milk their moneymaker until there's no milk left

new endgame is kinda cool

>>742268114
This is the one. The last sixteen AI reworks were complete flops and often made the game even worse, but you know what they say - seventeenth time's the charm.

>>742268701
>kill an army for -1% wardsave
it sounds like tedious busywork

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archaon and the cooler archaon

>>742268815
It's 1% for each Chaos army in the world and Chaos armies can no longer retreat, so the AI will be working on them too. It'll probably drop 1-2% per turn without you doing anything.

>No Giga-Dorghar
Understandable but slightly disappointing.

>>742268895
you know exactly that the ai will shit it's pants and do nothing

Let me know if there is an actual DLC release date

im glad this is happening now but it really shouldve happened fucking years ago

they're gonna steal vco and the just good ui mod, lmao

>>742269010
I'm glad. Hated that thing and Archaon's new design personally.

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cool cool

>>742269513
nothing wrong with that, modchads have been fixing buggy ass total war series for years, tcal work culture is literally bethedsa

>>742269663
They're actually updating Eight Peaks race?

>>742269513
>vco
they just addressed this hahahah

>>742260934
3 had very hard coded campaigns with unique mechanics, but the Tzeentch DLC fucked it. Changeling was so terrible that they stopped doing character campaigns after. Now you get some objectives on the map to complete, fuck it, who cares. They changed their focus entirely because Changeling was so bad on every front and they had to buy back good will. Changeling is still there, in the game, and he has no lose condition, he cannot be defeated entirely, he just respawns, he can change shape to copy anyone else on the map and just go around being annoying as shit to deal with forever.

>>742258673
Didn't Nurgle already get a chaos warrior and a full nurgle DLC? Why does he get another one?

I always start a campaign with full motivation but then I remember I have to play the sieges and lose all motivation. I was debating internally if I should install that mod that replaces sieges with normal field battles but i rather not play at all then.

I hate CA so fucking much, bought all their games via 3rd party key and pirate all the dlc with creampie. I hope they go under.

warhammer 2 end times was hard enough for me, fucking try hards already have 100000000 armies waiting for archeon to spawn, no normal player does that

>>742266961
literally tekken 3 yoshimitsu

>>742266961
Tyranids with human skulls?

>Campaign fly-bys are back
Apologise.
>>742260934

will vampire coast finally get faction skills in battle and new units?

is okoi in the partner program again?

ITS TIME!!!

THANQUOL BROS WHAT HAPPENED

Skavenqueers get the rope.

>Glottkin is WoC instead of Nurgle
unironically ruined

>>742270804
are they retarded?

>It actually was Glottkin
Honestly not sure if that's better than Thanquol. These fuckers were abhorrently offensive in ET.
It's better than Toddboring I guess.

>>742270804
They don't want monos being bigger than 3 LLs

Ok ok but one more Tzeentch lord when?

>>742270936
I assume it's because the other three don't have many characters they could use as LLs, but it feels shit to have like 9 WoC LLs when at least 4 of them could have been monogod LLs
The monogods are still suffering from the CoC lords being WoC instead of monogods
I fucking hate it

>>742268867
THEY’RE FUCKING IDENTICAL, ROBERT

>>742270936
But Slaanesh is literally getting a fourth lord through Sigvald.

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>>742268867
>dye his cloak brown and unpolish his armor
AMAZING WORK I'M GLAD RESOURCES ARE BEING SPENT DOING THAT INSTEAD OF LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE THIS GAME NEEDS

>>742271680
No, he's still WoC, he's just going to be fully Slaanesh-themed like Azazel unlike now where he can still get Undivided units.

>>742271051
Egrimm will come out if they keep supporting the game post this End Times DLC.

>>742271739
>>742271492
Hey, he has a different belt

>2 LL for mono
>1 LL for WoC
>literally the black sheep of chaos gods rn
#JusticeformyniggerTzeentch

>moving Sigvald to Slaanesh
>but locking Glottkin to WoC
Excuse me? Isn't it exactly the same issue?

>>742270274
Luther Harkon is one of the lords getting nicked by Nagash, they'll probably get some update because of that.

>No Neferata still
what the fuck nigga

>>742272142

What is even left for there to be added to Tzeentch?

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>>742254606
>This slop is still not out of early access
It's been over 10 years

>>742272123
No he doesn't, they just tarnished the buckle.

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>>742266961
GW's one job is confirming those things move like General Grievous, spider crawl and spinning hands included

END TIMES HYPE. HOLY SIGMAR BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY

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So what's next?

I need a Bretonnia DLC with Bohemond Beastslayer RIGHT NOW!

>>742271097
>9 WoC LLs
Nah, they've moving Sigvald over to Slaanesh

I dont want to watch the stream, give me a summary, no schizo babble

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>>742254606
>here's your controller, bro

>>742279636
Tried reading the Archaon book. Made me sick so I stopped.

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>Tzeentch only has two Legendary Lords
>They made Eikhold Hellbrass a Hero.
>High Elves have a fucking dozen Legendary Lords.

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>>742286776
I want to feel that way too, but every Helf plays so differently now that I don't mind it. Would that the Delfs, Lizardmen, Kangz, and Cunts shared in such a boon.

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>>742254606

ALARIELLE'S
ASS

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>>742289461

>>742289625
What does this LL actually do that's unique and makes her stand out from any other campaign choice?

>>742267478
for a sugmar game to work out they have to delay the addition of turd factions like shitcasts until near end of service which is never going to happen

>>742289698
After the last DLC, her uniqueness is that she isn't unique.

>>742287462
>tfw they'll never add a Punished Settra campaign where he's a chaos LL

>>742289923
Which is fine, I say. Every race should have a vanilla option suitable for new players to get to grips with the core mechanics. Not every single lord should need to gather Liquified Prayers by capturing settlements which can either be exchanged for Wisps of Speed to let you teleport around the entire map on a two turn cooldown or Bronze Idols which can be spent to recruit tier 5 units for free from the RoR pool and each resource you spend also grants Authority of State which lets you force confederate the other lords and so on and so on. It's not an issue for me because I've been playing since WH1 but the complexity creep must be absolutely insane for a new player to have to deal with.

>>742289698
>>742289923
Alarielle's entire shtick inlore is that she inherits a role that's almost wholly political in nature (and is more or less Ulthuan's glorified prostitute) and tries to turn it into a more prominent and active station.
She ends up just getting piped by Tyrion unril Ends Times happen, then she gets turned into a political pawn for Malekith and eventually gets mindfucked into ego-death by Isha.
Alarielle is only a LL by virtue of having a tabletop model, which she only got because 'Magical Elf Queen' was a cliche GW used.

>>742254606
>Fantasyfags constantly cry about how the End Times sucked
>Fantasyfags also constantly talk about how they want the End Times to be incorporated into Total Warhammer
?

>>742291308
That's because a lot of Total Warhammer fags have no tastes, and also the first game started with the end times by having Archaon show up as the BIG BAD.
If Total Warhammer took place in a good edition of Warhammer Fantasy, Archaon would have gotten his ass kicked in the Storm of Chaos, and the Empire would be dealing with ragtag bands of chaos fuckers who got left behind when his armies fled.

Or even better, it would take place in the early editions, but GW likes to pretend those editions don't exist, and Old World even ignores a lot of the cool stuff from that era, such as that was before the Winds of Magic were a thing (as far as humans know).

Finally got this game after waiting for a crack for years, but at least cream api works well.
Is SFO mod in this as in 2? I felt it was almost required after getting frustrated to the vanilla systems.

>>742291643
>Storm of chaos
>Good
You are retarded. Both were shit.

>>742254606
might as well ask here but i can't beat festus the leechlords campaign on hard, anyone have any advice

>>742291643
>in a good edition of Warhammer Fantasy
unfortunately AoS came after twwh

>>742291846
Yes SFO is in it, but for most factions it slows things down so much that you can't get to Tier 5 until like turn 100+
If that's your jam, go for it.

>>742291860
Both were shit, but Storm of Chaos at least had a good edition of the game behind it, and also the best edition of the RPG.

>>742255723
daniel, full domination victory

>>742291308
This fanbase is full of retrded cattle who don't have actual opinions

>>742291970
SFO has the campaign options, where you camp change dozens of values. You could make growth be -150 or +150 or inbetween if you so want. Goes for most other settings too.
The customizability is great.

>>742291970
>but Storm of Chaos at least had a good edition of the game behind it
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

6th was okay I actually think 7th was better from purely a rules standpoint but the army books got so retarded it ruined the editions gains, just because the game got rapidly worse doesn't retroactively make it good.
Its actually the main issue Fantasy had. Its rules for basically all of its existence were shit. Honestly they seemed to have learned nothing since ToW seems to be 90% modellers and my LGS cant get 8 of the fuckers together to do an event to save their life while seemingly even lesser games like the dogshit star wars TT game can pull players.

>>742291308
Fantasy fans want ET in because they want the chance to stop it from happening. The major problem of ET was that the writing behind it was fucking atrocious and a majority of characrers were either killed off unceremoniously or were written terribly to justify the railroaded sequence of events, especially later on. Skaven were essentially given plot armor to fuck up everything that would logically beat Chaos, and in the end the hail mary solution got foiled because one guy was a fucking faggot.
There wasn't some grand final deciding battle or duel, Mannfred just shanked Gelt and that ended it.
ET was as pathetic as it was insulting, in part because what came after it was the most abhorrently disgusting 'setting' GW could ever manage to put out.

>>742290354
Tyrion's unique mechanic is so utterly simple that I would still consider him to be vanilla. Just because he has an extra menu of simple actions on cooldowns won't make him some esoteric anti-elf like some of the more out there lords can be. Alarielle could have had fucking something, anything at all.

>>742292379
Ehh End Times was absurdly popular until people learned they were squatting the setting.

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>>742291308
The End Times sucked because literally every single character other than Settra and Mannfred had to be made braindead and E X T R E M E L Y out of character for it to succeed, as well as employing nonensical retcons that didn't need to exist just to shit on people's expectations since the Disney Star Wars films were in full swing and subverting expectations was the highest priority. And all of that, solely because Games Workshop couldn't sell SPEEHS MEHREENS in Fantasy.
The idea of the end times isn't what's reviled, GW's execution of every single thing about it is.

Holy fuck the Empire gets absolutely fucked in the immortal empires

>>742258673
Knowing CA they will probably make another meme mode out of the End Times, instead of just integrating it into Immortal Empires.

>>742291970
I wouldnt know. I only played 2nd edition. Also nothing of that is related to the video game

>>742292929
I don't think people appreciate how much GW's management fucking hated Fantasy. People tend to forget, or just don't know since they weren't around, but both 40k and Fantasy were in a sales slump in the 2000s. When GW started addressing SOME of the issues THEY CAUSED, the changes were extended to 40k but not to Fantasy (Fantasy only began receiving them it headed for the chopping block as a way to prep for AoS).

Fantasy was never going to be as big as 40k simply by virtue of being a rank and flank game. That being said, GW could have transitioned Fantasy into a skirmish game as well, but instead, they opted for the insane business decision of nuking an established and influential IP.

I don't hate AoS, as a game, but I do find pretty funny that it's not the fantasy 40k GW wanted it to be. It's sales are decent, but they've been stagnant for a few years now. What's more telling, however, is the total lack of cultural impact AoS has had. Nobody gives a shit about the setting or the characters unique to it - which isn't a great sign for longevity or generating the secondaries that both 40k and Fantasy have been riding the wave of over the last decade or so.

>>742294895
Aos has had no impact since it's been heavily rewritten twice and even now is still focusing primarily on the Ground Marines. They're eased off onpy slightly with recenet developments but only for the sake of making the swtting more HFY oriented by making the Cities of Sigmar better than every other Order faction that aren't the Stormcast. GW wants to make their Fantasy versiom of 40k, but modern 40k is essentially soulless Marine and Imperium wank.

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>>742293324
Vampire counts have an immensely boosted autoresolve cheat for the first 50 turns because normal VC autoresolve values are beyond ass and Vlad died to Stirland every time before this was implemented.

>>742294895
whats funny is that AoS also has barely any fan content

you won't see any fan animations like 40k, barely any fanart, and any "meme" is usually about a faction that came from fantasy (e.g anything to dp with skaven)

they've said they're making an AoS secret level episode...but who gives a fuck? it'll just be a stormcast doing the same shit a space marine does because the space marine episode got overrated concord episode was better and it's a show about "videogames" which AoS FAMOUSLY DOESN'T HAVE

>>742297527
Nobody makes fan content because GW themselves barely ever make content that isn't Stormcast focused. Almost every new AoS book is about how Humans are the bestest most awesome race in the setting. Every animation they do is about Humans being the central characters. Every major plot point is about what tje Humans are up to.
The problem is that Humans in AoS are fucking boring as shit compared to literally everything else. They exist on 40k's infinite population scale which makes their losses inconsequential, the Order alliance is supposed to be filled with other factions who conveniently don't need to show up, and every new significant character is just a new Cities of Sigmar Human who's the best at what they do even if that steps on the toes of other factions.
GW's higher ups have really noticed the public reception of Space Marine 2 and Astartes, and they're no longer pretending to give a fuck about other factions in 40k so now AoS is going from a recovering setting to a rapidly dying one.

>>742295401
I'd argue that it's because AoS, despite being a decade old now, has still yet to really hammer out it's identity. This is compounded by the fact that many of its elements feel like they exist in vacuum and don't really interact with each in coherent ways - if they interact at all.
A really good example would be the CoS. Despite having access to dwarf engineers and elven artisans they're somehow less developed their Fantasy counterpart - the Empire of Man - who didn't really have access to either of those things. On a similar note, there's no political or social interplay/mingling between humans, dwarfs, elves, and ogres, despite coexisting in several cities.

I mean, fucking KO are literally walking around in power armour and using fully automatic firearms. They're not hidden away in the most obscure parts of the setting either - they're literally chilling in the middle of cities trading shit.

>>742295401
This is what I'm getting at. Most AoS conversations WITHIN the TTWG sphere begin and end with "the models look pretty good", before the conversation moves on to something else. Outside of the TTWG sphere, AoS basically just doesn't exist.

>>742298541
>Space Marine 2
It's a shame that what has to be one of the most mid games of all time did so well just because people have come to accept mediocrity.

I have hundreds of hours in TW Warhammer 2 but haven't played 3 yet. Thought I'd wait until there's more races and the bugs and annoyances were fixed out. Is it time yet? Good enough?
What's the end game usually looking like currently btw? Ordertide? Or maybe all the new chaos factions make them dominate?

>>742299564
Its entering its end-stage for dlc most likely. I would say its a good, and I have over 2400 hours.

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>>742299267
They need to redesign Stormcast (again), actually make them inline with Blanche's art, and then release a Stormcast video game along the lines of Space Marine (II). That MIGHT generate some hype for the setting.

>>742299564
>Ordertide? Or maybe all the new chaos factions make them dominate?
It depends on difficulty. On Lego most parts of the world are a coin toss between order and chaos, except the Empire where Franz wins ever time and the badlands, where Mors wins every time. Karl usually proceeds to beat the crap out of everybody else, but if enough Chaos factions have won he can get ground down.

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>>742299267
>On a similar note, there's no political or social interplay/mingling between humans, dwarfs, elves, and ogres, despite coexisting in several cities.
Oh, haven't you heard? This is Erasmus Zonn, a High Wizard who is so powerful that when he went to Hysh to act as a diplomat the Elf mages there got jealous of him and sent him on an impossible task, except he succeeded and then came back with his super unique mount (one which no Elf had ever managed to tame) having accomplished Enlightenment (something which takes Elves decades to do) within a few months? And he then called them all weak and demanded to speak with Teclis himself, who's now the Elf God of Magic? And Teclis was SO impressed that he bestowed Erasmus with a special title that's more powerful than all of the Elf wizards?
Or how fhe Cities of Sigmar have now developed Cogforts, the single greatest siege weapon in all the realms and better than Dwarf engineering by miles, all by themselves, and now keep the secrets of Cogforts away from the Dwarfs?
There's your 'interspecies interaction', complete Human supremacy.

>>742299783
I'm kind of hoping that that setting rework rumor is true. Making the setting one single world, instead of multiple nebulous realms, would go along way to start ground the setting as a whole and make it something comprehensible and quantifiable.

>>742300216
Or at the very least a single plane. I get that the whole 8+1 realms was meant to create space for "your dudes" but it's not really intuitive like planets are in 40K.

They should make the Old World map from WH1 playable. Fuck IW bloat and meme factions like Cathay and Vampire Coast.

>>742300608
I think it has less to do with creating your dudes, and more with given GW a get-out-of-jail-free card to just drop in whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want. From a soulless business perspective, this is benefit of AoS having nebulous, segmented lore, since they can just shit out whatever models they want for sale.
This anon's >>742300168 post is a pretty good example of what I'm talking about.

end times dlc when

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>>742299267
It doesn't help that AoS has had next to no vidya save for Realms of Ruin, which was a massive flop

Think about how many people have gotten into Fantasy or 40k through the video games, AoS has none of that

>>742271739
I could see a Recliner of Rage segment built around this complaint

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>>742254606
It's going to be the final patch and they claim they're working on the AI.

Who wants to bet that the open gate pathing bug is still in when it launches?

>>742290321
Still waiting for Ramhotep and Apophas as LHs...and based Sehenesmet as LL.

>>742304495
That game would've been far, FAR more successful if they made it work like the 1st Dawn of War and had truly massive armies.

>>742264067
God knows we have some variation in campaign mechanics

I feel a bit sad that this is likely the last good warhammer fantasy game we will ever get. Most other fantasy games suck are or dead. I feel like the malnourished guy trying to get a drop of water in that one comic strip.

>>742254606
team we gamers lost.

I dread the moment this update comes out and 300 installed mods go to shit in an instant. Like tears in the rain.

>>742306474
Eh, most of my mods are just aesthetic, like OvN Lost World or Building Icon Progression. They'll be up again in no time, if they even become incompatible in the first place.

>>742254606
I like that knight design

>>742306669
so are mine

VCO will die for good tho

>>742306105
Yeah, after this update, all we're gonna get is Age of Smegmar.

>>742307192
Yeah, but it's dying because it's becoming official. Hopefully it's done well and they already talked with the VCO devs.

Also I just checked the comments on their page and it looked like they were losing steam anyway?

>>742262075
I like bone constructs but I fucking hate the bone marines. You have HARVESTED BONES and you decided to make everyone smooth and perfectly formed articulated dolls.

Nagas was WEAK

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Festus plagued me so hard that anybody I order today actually arrived yesterday.

>>742304495
AoS exists to get 40k players to spend more money

I don't wanna say everyone, but EVERYONE collects 40k first, and moves onto AoS later and usually due to some cool model

I don't think most people who play the game even really know the lore beyond the broad strokes/their faction
fuck I don't even know what the "sigmar lied" thing is about

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More Ogres when?

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>>742311653
Ghark Ironskin is my fucking dream, but even I know when to give in to the NEVER EVER.

>>742312206
Never give up on your dreams anon, at least not until end of service.
Just like I'll never give up on my dream of a Bugman campaign with a brewing mechanic.

It's going to be funny when they follow up the End Times DLC with fucking Marienburg.
>Ahh yes, this playthrough I will stop the Apocalypse as.. a fat Dutch banker

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I am forgotten...

>>742312914
>let's add a beastman in instead of heavily requested dragon like Yinyin
>but Ind isn't in yet
>it's okay they'll be cool enough to still sell
>alright fair, so where will we put The Monkey King?
>no it'll be a tiger woman we just made up
>wat

>>742312914
I already finished my campaign with her, gonna be a while until I start another one.
It was still a good time though. Zhao can go eat a dick with his requests though.

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>>742312914
I played two kitty campaigns, they went somewhat identical. Her start position and lack of tigermen variety HEAVILY hinders my desire to play her. She should be in Ind helping Gelt kick Dechala's pussy in, and then have a no trespassing penalty for Cathay so you can march directly northwards and go kill chaos. Instead your biggest enemy is fucking Greasus because ??? and then Grimgor and then your campaign is done. Hell I'd even take her starting as Boris Ursus' neighbor so that Boris has a bit of an easier time instead of being surrounded by enemies. She's supposed to be up there hunting Archaon anyway.

>>742306105
I feel like we're getting Vermintide 3 in less than 5 years. Call me crazy, but it's my gut feeling.

>>742313218
I want to believe her starting position is so nonsensical because they intend to move her at some point.

>>742312914
All the possibilities for a character pack and they did a chink-pandering furry
Didn't even start her near Ind

>>742308461
Your cheats stain your soul.

>>742313218
The lore of white tigers hunting down Everchosens is one of the most lolrandumb additions GW has made lately. First, because they don't seem to really have any reason to be more special in being fighters against Chaos than any other Order faction that also hates them, so it just kinda comes across like the coughing baby is hunting down the nuke because they believe it's their destiny to win. And second, the fact there isn't a single actual recorded case of an everchosen being killed by a white tiger in Warhammer lore means they've all (predictably) lost.

Bhashiva would have actually been far cooler without that stupid detail thrown in.

>>742312914
literally whomstve

Brapshiva flops, time to make an OCdonut for Tzzentch

>Hosted by Legendoftotalwar
Imagine.

>>742315152
Nah, sotek won

>>742315152
Ousting the one guy who could actually organize a mob to make them pay for their shitty practices is the biggest win CA has ever gotten in the company's history. They are free to make nothing but Shadows of Change tier DLC and community treatment with 40k and the people will lap it up and thank them for the privilege.

>>742305649
The gate thing is actually not a bug. Telling too many units to go through the gate at once will force some to take alternate paths, which includes the ladders. Only way around it is to not use ladders, siege towers nor wall breaking at all.

>>742314702
Then again there is also only one (1) record of an Everchosen winning

>>742259861
40k consumers make me sick
thank god for creamapi

>>742318770
They might block it... ;-;

>>742254606
Uhh, we're on to TW:40k, who cares about fantasy?

>implying-implying i’d ever side with thanquol the skitter-failure

>>742263792
Eldar are as old as any of the factions you fuckin newfag. They will give you all the DLCs you ever wanted so dry your tears.

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>>742314702
>there isn't a single actual recorded case of an everchosen being killed by a white tiger
Don't worry, GW will fix that.

>>742312914
i fucking despise everything about this character, it perfectly represents everythIng wrong with modern geedubs, not to mention that if they wanted to pander to chinks the Monkey King was right there