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I don't get the appeal
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>>742258294
post games YOU like
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>>742258294
I don't get the appeal of farming/comfy sim games either like Animal Crossing. But it appeals to someone.
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>>742258294
faggots, racemixing, zoophilia
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>>742258294
ai slop writing aimed at normies
gameplay is about 10x as long as it should be due to a lot of walking in empty areas, backtracking and shit like dice rolls, combat and voiceovers taking a stupid amount of time for padding
was tied in with stranger things, a popular normie show for free marketing
Combat is basic black bitch but 'le hecking epic dnd like my show'
same with the retarded voice over for the dm and dice rolls

if you like actual videogames, it's not for you
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>>742258294
It's for CRPG fans, but managed to draw in some normies through sheer production values.
If the same game didn't have that level of production values it would've sold a fraction of what it did because CRPGs do not historically sell that well.
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>>742258294
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I wanna learn 3.5e from a game like I did 5e from BG3, but all the 3.5e games are either shit or R*al time with p*use
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>>742259305
Pathfinder is basically 3.75e since it uses 3.5 as a base, and the two CRPGs can be played turn-based.
Unless they were what you were referring to as "shit" in which case don't think there's really much else since they're generally RTWP
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>>742259387
no encounter design... full of trash mobs... bleh
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>>742260038
That's fair. It's unfortunately hampered with it being originally designed for RTWP, causing turn-based to suffer for it.
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>>742258294
There more I play it, the more I dislike it.

Didn't help that I tried to come back to my 40hr save a year later.
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>>742258294
you probably just don't like crpgs anon
if you threw a Madden game in front of me, I couldn't give two shits. but my cousin would be ecstatic
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>>742260121
>RTWP
which has nothing to do with it, RTWP combat in that game is utter shit and arguable worse than even TB
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>>742258294
It is a Bioware RPG with more interactivity
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>>742260370
Disagree with it having nothing to do with it. The encounter design is specifically tailored for RTWP resulting in a large chunk of easy to quickly kill trash mobs repeatedly that turns into a much more needlessly long affair in turn-based.
Which is why they likely kept active switching because they knew even turn-based players would get sick of a few of those encounters in turn-based.
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>>742260483
you say that when Rogue Trader exists and has the same problem while that game was designed for TB only. Also its not like BG3 doesnt have that issue, any fight with 5+ enemies is tedious as fuck and stops me from replaying that game, on top of it if u want to have ANY challenge at all you need to difficulty mods which make it even more tedious to play.
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>>742261385
it sounds like you just don't like the genre honestly
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>>742260483
if your game design is tailored around fighting trash mobs on "fast forward" mode for the majority of the runtime, it is not a good game
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Dropped it at chapter 3 got bored of it
same with dos2
anyone know of any good non larian crpgs?
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>>742262153
People have argued that Real Time with Pause games are not good, correct. But that's how rtwp rpgs are designed. Don't tell the rtwp fans that though.
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>>742258294
>didn't get goblin minions or a goblin companion after helping the goblins
they truly didn't give a fuck about people wanting to be evil
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>>742261452
No i dont like spending 90% of playthrough watching enemy turns with thumb in my ass
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>has gameplay for people who like games
>has cinematic cutscenes for sony players
You'd literally have to not like video games as a concept to not get the appeal
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>>742262450
Welcome to CRPGs anon. Not sure why you're in a thread for one if you don't like them.
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>>742262606

stop projecting fag i play different crpgs all the time with 0 issues, i dont even hate TB games when done right, fact is BG3 has lengthy animations and wonky AI which gets stuck constantly, its a massive time waster, maybe u hate actually playing video games and are just there to watch scripted actions
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>>742263110
>top projecting fag i play different crpgs all the time with 0 issues
name them
>inb4 decades-old titles
you tried
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>>742263110
Anon, name the many CRPGs you play where you don't see the issue you're claiming of waiting on enemy turns
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>>742260038
It's funny how all the "encounter design" of BG3 amounts to having ways to skip the encounter. When the biggest flex your game has is you can play less of it it's not a good look.
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>>742258412
grim
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>>742263164
infinity engine games, DAO, fallouts,Pathfinder games (still think combat is ass in both modes), old fallouts, FNV, Underrail
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>>742263410
People love that you can skip the entire last battle of New Vegas through dialogue.
Do you play RPGs? A number of these posts looks like non-CRPG players just stirring shit
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>>742263547
>troon vegas
yeah i can tell they love not playing games
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>>742263624
I figured some of these posts were just tourists who don't even like the genre.
Puts them into perspective so they're not worth considering. Thanks for confirming.
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>>742263719
I accept your concession.
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>>742263804
>i accept your concessin
>well, i accept YOUR concession
um... anon
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one of my 'fondest' memories BG3 memories was being completely cornered in the goblin camp because I triggered the goblin priestess encounter. I was almost out of HP, I used every spell slot and special ability I had to survive and even the ogre horn just to barely escape and then be faced with another encounter outside, though this one was more manageable and I did beat it, just barely. right now I could probably breeze through those encounters no problem, but for newbie me? it was me grasping every straw for survival.
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>>742264046
>how dare people agree
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>>742264213
you replied to their "i accept your concession" with a "well I accept YOUR concession"
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>>742258294
then don't play nigga
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>>742264205
>one of my 'fondest' memories BG3 memories
read over your posts before clicking the submit button kids
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>>742263410
The superiority of BG3's encounter design comes down to the environment. Larian's style replicates tabletop DND by allowing you to gain advantages from the terrain itself (eldritch blasting enemies off of cliffs, climbing to higher elevations to give yourself a better shot, picking up and using environmental objects as improvised weapons)

I love both Owlcat Pathfinder games but they are completely lacking this core aspect of dnd combat encounters.
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>>742258294
One of the few nu games that I zthink is on par with the classics.
If you ignore all the... "romance" that is.
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>>742264275
Explain what's wrong with that without sounding like a retard.
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>>742259012
based consistent cuck
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>>742264509
If you legitimately need that explained to you then you might be a
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I was genuinely not aware of how utterly shit the dungeons & dragons universe was. It's the fantasy world from the imaginings of a 12-year-old girl.
It's probably the last fantasy setting I'd ever wanna work with.

As to why people like BG3 I can't tell ya. It's equally boring and drab as it is gay.
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Used to be subtle. Anons not even putting in effort
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>>742258294
>3 year old game
>Still $40+ on sale
Grim
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>>742260038
That's 3.5 for you.
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>>742266517
The suffering from success shit. Still doing well so no reason to put on sale.
But it's on GOG. So... you know.
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>>742266628
>But it's on GOG. So... you know.
not like steamworks is the worlds hardest drm to bypass lmfao
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>>742259305
3.0 is better
3.5 fucks up haste
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>>742260370
>>742260121
The rwtp mod works just fine.
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>>742258294
Ultimately the propaganda and cuckifornia writing makes it unenjoyable. Not that it matters for larian. Most never get past ea and that's a win for larian. Curious about the TV show, bg1, 2,4. Doubt it'll be worth playing, but we shall see, shan't we?
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>>742268202
Why
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>>742258294
You are probably straight and normal
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Critical Role: The Game
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>>742258294
The initial story was awesome, absolute vs the bg3, vs jergal and chosen vs dead three vs the emperor vs Raphael vs mephisto vs zariel
On top of that you have the 3 crones, two mindflayer factions, several bg factions and the gith and giz and ofc seluna and shar
Unfortunately it was cut to death. The emperor as legendary leader of a mindflayer rebellion would be kino/10
>>742269765
Enough about poe2
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>>742258294
I just entered act 3 and this feels like a chore, I like the combat part of the gameplay but the exploration is a chore. God I miss games like FFX without this open world bs.
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It starts strong and I had high hopes for the rest of the game but it very quickly goes downhill. The characters fucking suck and speak in the exact same way most of the time with their voice acting being the only reason people remember them or think they're well written at all.
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>>742258294
homosexual power fantasy
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>>742272424 (me)
Also I feel that my bro Astarion is going to do something stupid with the Cazador ritual and if I stop him he is going to hate my guts...
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>>742273440
Astarion is a FAGGOT who appeals solely to FAGGOTS and WOMEN. We need to catapult his writer and all his fans into the sun IMMEDIATELY.
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>>742258347
how does that help
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>>742273558
Idk bro, he opens chests and disarms traps for me and he is literally a rape victim, I kinda pity the guy.
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>>742273791
>he is literally a rape victim
Of course he is, why do you think he's a faggot?
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>>742273917
He is a male elf, being a fag might be a natural trait for him
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>>742273558
I had Astarion in my group for the first half of the game because he was cooler and more interesting than Karlach (lesbian bait) or the L'azel (fugly ass bitch) and the stealthy assassin fantasy is fun. In early Act 1 Astarion is especially fun because you get to actually play him like a stealth game and silently assassinate things like at the Shattered Sanctum, though this falls away by the midgame with enemies getting more than 40 HP and he becomes more of an archer with more complex positioning.
But Shadowheart and especially Gale were definitively the more memorable cast members.
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Is this the daily "BG3 sucks because it's popular and I've never kissed a girl" thread?
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>>742276198
I've kissed a girl AND I've had sex with one and I still think the game sucks.
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>>742276013
I, on the other hand, feel like Gale is the most boring character ever, I use Shadowheart, Astarion and Minthara.
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>>742276198
>>742276369
>Shitters have to make everything about their sexual fantasies again.
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>>742276198
I think they're obsessing over gay elf dick now
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>>742258294
I've concluded this and divinity are both redditor games.they are not fun and demand far too much time. writing is bad and littered with "jokes" that don't land, takes too long to get "better" and relies on multiplayer to make up for it's shortcomings. it's boring and bad and I wish I didn't spend nearly $70 on it
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>>742258294
I'm just going to speedrun this so we can all save our time here. OP, in addition to being a colossal dicksucking faggot:
>has no theory of mind
>can't imagine an apple
>wholly lacks empathy
>incapable of abstract thinking

In other words, if you don't understand the appeal of one of the most popular RPGs of the decade, you're a retard.
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>>742258387
Same. Some people really like to knit and crochet, and I am assuming they are cut from the same cloth (pun intended) as those people who like animal crossing.
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>>742258412
>being mad about the baer
You only sexo the baer if you romance Halsin
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>>742281663
>s.heart likes animals
>halsin is an animal
Damn, it really does start making sense, doesn't it
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>gameplay is either quicksave spam or ironman single save that doesn't even matter because when you die you can keep playing

When will we get a CRPG with proper consequence for your actions
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>>742282214
>he can't resist the urge to quicksave spam and blames the game for it
unbelievably brown
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>>742282319
>blame the player and not the developers for not making better systems

let me guess, just don't use ashes in elden ring, am i right
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>>742282214
>expecting modern games to have consequences
also, bg3 is lame and the evil route is really just the mean rute, in the end it's all the fucking same
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>>742282319
He's right tho, if I can just rewind and experience every outcome, choices ultimately don't matter. I get that saving is meant to serve as a reroll but it still sucks because I'm playing a computer game and not tabletop
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>>742258294
it's got a decent sandbox, combat and build crafting is fun and it has co-op. writing is a mixed bag though
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/v/'s hateboner for this game is so performative, I don't believe any of you have actually played the game.

It's a better immsim than any of the classics; stealth gameplay, use of terrain, stacking crates, usings abilities/spells to distract the enemy, everything we praise Deus Ex and VTMB wishes they had all of this.
Dialogue options based on your character build that impact the course of the game, it has more dialogue choices than any other CRPG we praise.
Tactical combat, every single combat encounter in the game has something unique about it, there are no trash encounters, you can show me a picture of any location in the game and I'll remember the kind of encounter I had there, you just want to replay with different builds and party compositions to see how it goes.
Frogwife and Shart.
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>>742264501
yep, my go-to strat for killing the paladins in act 1 is to have someone push the level 5 bozo over his desk and under the light fixture, then dropping it on his head and finishing him off from there. Larian's elemental surface shit was way outta pocket in OS2 but in BG3 they managed a pretty good balance in environmental interactivity.
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How is Hexblade Warlock? Is it still Eldrich blast spamming like other Warlock type
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>>742282935
Environmental storytelling and design, all main locations like the Blighted Village and the different Shadow curse areas have a deeper background that the player doesn't even need to know, but if you like exploring and getting into these detais, reading clues, it leads to more exploration, unique encounters and rewards such as unique consumables and pieces of equipment.
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>>742282214
The ironman that lets you keep playing after you lose still limits you to one save. So just play like that, retard.
>but I want to be punished for dying
Then stop playing when you die.
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I've seen platformers with less verticality than this, this kind of level design is insane for a CRPG, we are used to browsing a glorified mat painting.
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>>742283091
Great for one level, worse paladin from there. It'll still eldrich blast with the best of 'em.
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>>742282935
>It's a better immsim than any of the classics
this is certainly debatable, but I feel like the hate for act 3 comes from people unwilling to indulge in these elements. Going around and murdering people to get into the cult of bhaal making use of smokescreens, planting explosives and jumping around the rooftops to flee the scene of the crimes afterwards was a highpoint in the game for me and my friends.

>>742283091
hexblade is pretty good, I never liked being an Eldritch Blast spammer though. Basically the perfect dip for paladin, though going into the higher levels of warlock doesn't seem too valuable. the minions you can spawn on the death of a cursed enemy is cool on paper, but because you don't actually control them and they can't move normally as they can only TP to targets you've cursed, they are entirely dependent on procs, which is a 20% chance on hit unless you use an exploit.

>>742283349
you're gonna want two levels at least for the invocations. throwing a dark cloud with shadow sorc and parking your hexblade in there with devil sight is OP
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>>742282935
>every single combat encounter in the game has something unique about it, there are no trash encounters, you can show me a picture of any location in the game and I'll remember the kind of encounter I had there
Wow. You're really right about this one. But I'm wondering if all games are like this? Well certainly not all, but most?
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>>742258418
Baldur's Gate 2 is based. My biggest gripe with 3 was how every single party member was DTF. Give me back fucken homie characters like Minsc or Garrus from mass effect.
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>>742284106
not in the context of CRPGs, trash generic encounters and random encounters are the norm
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>>742284106
>Well certainly not all, but most
nta but it can vary from game to game. in something like classic SMT I only remember boss fights because random encounters are usually just auto battle fodder. random encounters while traveling in BG1 and 2 are similar, you kind of just watch your party steamroll the bandits/monsters and move on. BG2 has really memorable big encounters though, like the beholder under athkatla, the vampire hideout raid, the dragon fights, the lich fight and so on. but BG2 goes about their encounter design by just having memorable enemies, there's basically no environmental gimmicks.
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>>742258294
I dont get the appeal of fucking your mom but you exist so someone found her appealing enough to love her and start a family....
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>>742258294
crpg but with a decent combat, pretty unusual sight
it's also extremely gay so it appeals to the modern audience
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>>742284603
>>742284637
>random encounters
You know, it's funny: random encounters are supposedly good for replayability, but honestly BG3 doesn't seem to have any issue with replayability with respect to it's encounters and environment. At least not to me
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>>742258294
game made for gen x'rs
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>>742285167
Random encounters are pure cancer and discourage exploration by either draining all your rescources if the fights are actually hard or annoying the hell out of you with trivial fights.
Either way, they make you not want to explore and want to minimise steps taken during the dungeon.
CHrono Trigger or Baldurs Gate 3 style ancounters are a lot better.
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>>742285167
it's a pacing thing really, BG1 and 2 can have random encounters because they are mostly passive, the auto attack AI can win most of them for you. very little micro needed (on core rules anyway I've never played the higher difficulties) but no such thing exists for BG3, random encounters in the game would bog down the pace immensely because of just how turns play out individually. BG3 leans heavily on the customization of the characters and reactivity of the world for it's replayability, which is for the best I don't think anyone wants to have to fight 5 goblins every other time they take a rest.
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>>742259012
this dialogue, man
fucking cringe
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>>742258294
that means you are not gay, congratulations
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>>742285448
>Random encounters are pure cancer and discourage exploration by either draining all your rescources
that's the best part, managing your resources and weighing up the risk/reward of investigating off the main path for loot is like, THE whole point of the thing. taking into account how much enemies hurt, how quickly you can kill them and making a decision based on the info is the lifeblood of any dungeon crawl.
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>>742258294
>known and beloved IP
>comes from a proven studio that already made decent rpgs
>insane presentation by rpg standards
>sex, lots of it and bears to sex too
whats not to understand?
Outside of owlkeks, no one is making good rpgs and people are starving
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>>742285786
>bruh theres SEX and PWETTY GWAPHIX frfr lmfao nocap
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>>742285786
>known and beloved IP
I like baldur's gate but I think it's way overblown in this regard. They were successful for their time, but Computer RPGs from the late 90s and early 2000s were very niche. more people have played games inspired by BG2 than BG2 itself. Div OS2 being a big hit was a much larger factor for the game's success than BG1 and 2 was
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>>742285875
Yes, people think like that, thanks for pointing out the obvious
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>>742285642
That would be if the loot was guarded by enemies so the risk reward would be taking the loot or not.
But with random encounters, you dread every step you take because there is a high chance it will result into another repetetive battle that you have probably done 20 times before.
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>>742258294
Because you are not a woke faggot zoophile leftie that likes being cucked therefore you are not a target audience for this game
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I still find it amazing how the absolute trash that is DAV was completely and rightfully dragged through the mud, while the exact same garbage BG3 somehow got a free pass.
It’s just wild how much a marketing department's power actually matters.
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This game is trash, don't bother
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>>742262521
> >has gameplay for people who like games
> Gameplay in question
Lol. Lmao even
Are you retarded or what? This games has a terrible gameplay with zero build autismo and piss eazy encounters

It is pathetic in comparison with Rogue Trader and WOTR
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>>742286214
all loot is guarded by enemies anon, that's the whole point of a dungeon with random encounters. Even store items are gated by gold, which is gained by fighting random enemies more often than not. the risk of going down a fork you know isn't the way forward is not knowing how long of a fork it is, and gauging your resources to see how many more additional battles you can afford to take.
it's ok to not like the system of course, but don't act like your dislike for the system means it is a bad one when there is very obvious merit to it and how it impacts your decision making when navigating dungeons in a genre all about trading execution skill for decision making.
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>>742286397
I feel like such a fool for getting tricked and actually buying BG3 expecting a good game instead of DEI slop. It's the only game in at least 15 years i regret playing.
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>>742258412
>>742281663
The fucking "Bear sex zoophilia promoting game" take is so fucking retarded. It's actually maybe the worst fucking take in Gaming history. People act like you're seeing raw bear on human pornographic action, when it's very fucking clear that it's a COMEDY scene. You get the bear and the character looking at each other seductively, the camera pans away to a squirrel in a tree holding a nut, noticing the two, then getting HUGE eyes, dropping his nut in shock and running away it is about as seriously about zoophelia as this Freddy got Fingered scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz_-hAz489A

You know, it's funny. /v/ will lie about a single games journo sucking at cuphead at an event, saying he gave it a negative review for being too hard, yet at the same time when /v/ is in charge of reviewing a game they will with a straight face look at a straight up comedy scene, and pretend it's a very serious attempt at showing sweaty hot man on bear action.
Imagine the fucking outrage if a game journo did this to a game /v/ likes. Taking clear jokes and pretending they are serious. You would never hear the end of it.
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>>742286397
>I only care about culture war and not actual gameplay
Also bg3 is not like DA at all, it's a lot more nuanced.
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>>742286397
you are confused because you have exactly one lens you view the world through, and it's the culture war. DAV is a bad action game calling itself an RPG, while BG3 is a pretty good game in regards to the sandbox, interactivity, reactivity and customization of characters via class combos and itemization.
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>>742286308
haha, I recognize that format
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>>742286796
>man screaming he has a "husband" on top of his lungs multiple times in the game
>abused gay vampire
>muslim rapefugees with tiefling reskin
yeah very nuanced
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>>742282935
>/v/'s hateboner for this game is so performative
I believe it's because the game is marginally "woke" so culture war faggots are trying to manifest it being shit. When clearly: It's a masterpiece. Yeah the third act is not as good as the first, but overall it's such a good game. Clearly. But no, the game is okay with gays, and trans characters, so we need to find reasons it's bad. Even if we have to invent some, like I said here: >>742286781
pretending that the bear sex scene is genuine zoophilia, and not a cutaway joke.
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>>742283335
Verticality doesn't matter when half your ranged attacks can't hiot because you're too far away. And if you're melee, lmao. Enjoy spending 10 turns climbing terrain to reach a goblin.
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>>742286796
> >I only care about culture war and not actual gameplay
No
The fact that the game is filled with woke propaganda isn't even in the top 3 of its problems. The gameplay is the main reason why the game is considered total garbage. Take WotR, for example—it’s also heavily pushed that agenda, but since the gameplay is incredibly good, you can tolerate the flaws.
But in BG3, the gameplay is absolutely atrocious. With its primitive mechanics, terrible features like shoving, an awful camera, trash build variety, and zero difficulty, it only amplifies the negative feelings about the woke agenda.
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>>742258347
Spyro
Super Mario 64
Fallout New Vegas
A Dog's Life
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>Hideous drag queen abomination in act 3
There's no possible way you could convince me to play this shit.
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>>742286689
No, I mean static encounters.
If you want loot to be risk reward, have static encounters guard it. That way you can even make them harder and longer because you won't have to fight them every 4 steps.
And the system IS shit. Random encounters are a relic from the NES and Gameboy days where you couldn't do it any better because hardware. SNES and after games should have known better.
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>>742286920
No.
WotR is woke and pozzed, yet it is still a good game and i liked it's gameplay
RT is still woke(thought less woke than WOTR), but the gameplay is to good to care about that

Balls Hurt Gay 3 is a terrible game which is full of woke trash. It's flaws work as multipliers for themselves
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>>742286929
>man screaming he has a "husband" on top of his lungs multiple times in the game
I also hate that guy, no comment.

>muslim rapefugees with tiefling reskin
That is a classic dilemma about positive and negative morality, in a way a variation of the trolley problem, do you believe that individuals have the moral obligation to help others if they have the means to do so?
You have complete freedom to answer this in game how you want, you can even side with Khaga's isolationist policy and "protect your brood" as she says.

>abused gay vampire
pic related my honest reaction
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>>742287270
>random encounters a console limitation
oh ok you're just retarded then got it. thanks for clearing that up
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>>742287018
>Verticality doesn't matter when half your ranged attacks can't hiot because you're too far away
you're supposed to take the high ground anon not the far ground.
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>>742286397
The difference is: Woke is not the culprit. Bad writing is. A game can be woke and good, or woke and bad. BG3 is woke and a good game, DAV (a series that btw has been complained about getting worse since the second game) is woke and also bad.
The culture war faggots will tell you that woke is what makes a game bad, but they actually never prove it out in any way. They just point at what is woke, and that the game is bad.
But here's the kicker: If you are a right wing culture warrior, you can find something "woke" in damn near any game. Female protagonist? Gay character? Non white character? Hell, "capable woman" is enough to label something woke these days. And with the industry shitting out more and more slop garbage, all these culture warriors have to do is mention the woke aspects, and then pretend that they are related to the game being bad, when that is rarely if ever the case.
Take Suicide Squad for instance. The game got BLASTED for being woke. But is it bad because it is woke? Think about it this way: Would you play SS if they took out all the pride flags? Probably not. Because the problem is not that there's pride flags. It's that a greedy publisher forced a single player focused studio, to make an always online multiplayer games as a service battlepass looter shooter game. Same with Redfall, same with so many "go woke go broke" games. They were bad completely independent of being woke.
I mean fuck, if "level of wokeness" was any evidence of quality, then "chad vs the gay nazis" would have broken all records and become game of the year. But it didn't. Because it sucked, because wokeness status is not a quality indicator. At all.
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>>742268715
in 3.0 it gave you an extra action you could do anything with
in 3.5 you could only get extra attack when making a full attack
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>>742262521
> >has gameplay for people who like games
Lol. Lmao even
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>>742286781
sure anon baldur's gate fans are totally not zoophiles, they're just fucking animals ironically
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>>742286595
>coolest thing ever.webm
>THIS SUCKS
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>>742286308
Nice bait, almost got me.
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>>742282935
>It's a better immsim than any of the classics; stealth gameplay, use of terrain, stacking crates, usings abilities/spells to distract the enemy, everything we praise Deus Ex and VTMB wishes they had all of this.
and unfortunately it's as limited as Deus Ex and VTMB.
just like those games it gives you a plethora of cool shit to interact with and experience, but the second the game ends it takes all those toys back and shoves it in the back under lock and key.
these type of sandbox games deserves a custom campaign / map editor mode for more shenanigans and it's insulting fucking RPGs don't have custom modes to this day. they shouldn't need to be bruteforced to make custom content with all the goddamn resources the game has for the community to use within itself
for FUCK's sake D&D is entirely based on being a DIY game.
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>>742286595
>RT
I hate owlcrap for ruining any chances of we ever getting a decent RT game.
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>>742258294
gay vampire sex was the appeal for me
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>>742287435
You should thank god I can't smash your face in right now, bitch.
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>>742287523
Woke stuff makes ANY game worse. Period
Yet some games are SOOO good that from excellent they become just good
But other games are not good at all and woke stuff makes them terrible

And yes, writing is part of the problem, but woke writers CANNOT be good because if they were good they would not be woke.
BG is pretty bad game by itself yet it's writing is even worse because it is woke and it was written by a literal troon

WoTR is woke as fuck, but it is good game. RT is less woke and it is good game
Balls hurt gay 3 BOTH woke and bad.
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>>742287534
I just realized this guy has karlach as a barb on his team and doesn't rage, and doesn't jump into range of that slime to melee. shooting a fucking bow instead of throwing something. that guy blows ass at the game lmao I can't believe it look me this long to actually look at the turn he took here
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>>742287743
the only thing you can smash is a box of donuts, fuck outta here internet tough guy. learn a thing or two about the hobby before trying to talk to me about RPGs.
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>>742287873
So how's the weather in New Delhi right now, SAAAAAAAAAAAAAR?
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>>742287927
>bad at RPGs
>doesn't know shit about the hobby or history of RPGs
>can't even banter on 4chan
you are literally useless
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>>742287523
> BG3 is woke and a good game
No, just no. Bg3 is not a good game in any aspect besides the amount of voice acting and motion capture

Combat? Is easy and boring
Story? Flat, boring, unfinished. Plus 3rd act is reeks of marvel
Character builds? Are very limited and boring as fuck.
Companions? Are all just a reddit tier snowflakes with gods behind their shoulder

It is just not as good as WOTR, RT or Underrail.
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>>742287527
Big difference
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>>742258491
>its for crpg fans
>rapes bg2 to death and uses 5e which grogs hate
It was always for normies because Larian is full of retarded normies
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>>742288085
>Character builds? Are very limited and boring as fuck.
I'm gonna have to stop you here.
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>>742288087
yes, it's a big difference
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>>742271830
You guys obviously skipped ea
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>>742288056
>bad at RPGs
Yes, I know you are.
That's why you prefere monotonous repetetition over exciting challenges.
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>>742287646
>fuck Orin so hard that you impale your dick through her womb and kills her
does this count as a bhaal kill or a sune kill
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>>742287281
>pic
nice. It's what I did to most of those teribble party members.
I dont like BG3 because I feel cheated and i could see a few of good ideas that got shitified. For example I always liked the church of Umberlee and I like we can even get some kind of their armor. But you can't create an Umberlee priest and have it ANY imfluence on the dialogues at all. And also for some reason the priestesses are ugly browns instead of beautiful and deadly.
Each time they dingle nice thing, like a fairy, drider, planetar, zombie nurses; in front of you and they corrupt them into something gay, ugly, annoying, unusable.
I also remember the nerve of some of their social bitch telling people to create gay and ugly characters like they do... the swords coast is full of rare races, but somehow there is almost no white humans, which takes away everything from the experience of encountering rare species. Let me remind you that during developement they took away from character creation so you cant create beautiful females at all. Only ugly presets for you. This game is not a product of apssion, it's a product that hates you.
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>>742287534
So is this the equivalent of Polygon's DOOM gameplay?
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>>742288158
Build variety is worse than in RT and WOTR, it is worse than in Underrail and even worse than in BG1-2 which is almost 30 years old.

It is full of bullshit like this which cannot be considered a proper CRPG gameplay, this is some Critical Role bullshit
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>>742287765
How do these subhuman things end up getting hired?
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>>742288165
Never realized, as dnd is usually easy, no matter if trpg or videogame. Is that the only reason you like 3 better?
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>>742287534
>>742288256
>zoomer plays morrowind for the first time
>*miss* *miss* *miss*
>wtf this games sucks fr no cap
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>>742288313
Nepotism+sexual activities as payment+Black Rock DEI money+circlejerking
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>>742288183
>no u
at least you're aware enough to not deny the other two accusations lmao. take this last nugget of attention you're oh so desperate for now, don't spend it all in one place!
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>>742288290
>using your environment strategically is BAD
If that's your idea of bad gameplay, I'd call you crpg enthusiasts retarded and tasteless.
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>>742288501
Yes. This is some critical role tier bullshittery
CRPG is not about that. It's all about builds, numbers and math of combat
Not about this trash
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>>742288501
Its bad because you shouldn't spoonfeed players free 1 shots
Why is a spider going on its web just setting itself up to die? The spider doesnt have any such tricks, if you touch the web you get a little slow, but the spider using its own web is a crippling weakness to make midwit players feel intelligent
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>>742288501
funny thing is, there's a bunch of BG3 mods that turn the game into the spreadsheet simulator he loves.
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>>742288670
Is there a BG3 mod that removes 5eslop?
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>>742288447
Yes you.
When you can pull out stupid bullshit like "You suck at RPGs if you don't enjoy getting annoyed by the same trivially easy yet agonisingly long fight every 4 steps taken." from your ass, I can do so too.
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>>742287765
>Woke stuff makes ANY game worse. Period
Wrong. Woke is just a theme. That theme can be done well, or that theme can be done badly.
Example: I fucking hate libertarianism. I think it's retarded. Yet one of my favourite Comedies is Ghost Busters. Which is deeply libertarian. Throughout the whole movie there is a theme about the annoying Government stopping the Ghostbusters with rules and regulations.
In a similar vein, Bioshock is deeply anti-Libertarianism, going: "Here, Libertarians had their dream of their (under)sea-steading city, without regulations and it instantly went to shit". And it too, is a great game.
Many are just too ideologically captured to allow themselves to accept good games, as woke. Kojimas Metal Gear series is pretty woke, being anti war, anti nukes, with "subtly" homosexual characters. Nier Automata explores empathy and the dehumanizing effect of endless war, FF7 was essentially environmentalist propaganda. Woke can be good. Just like something non-woke can be good or bad. It's not an indicator of quality.
We're just so used to people pointing at something marginally woke in a bad game, that we have started linking them in our brains, even when that is not the case.
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>>742288290
>Underrail
Fuck me that game. I think that's the only game that's ever out-autismed me. Need to fucking study for a week just to play it on a basic level.
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>>742288667
wasn't a one shot, it still lived after getting dropped and exploded by that barrel. without the barrel you need to drop it 3 times for it to die, usually you get one drop before it teleports onto the platform where everyone else was standing and you fight it out normally. The real oneshot for the spider is a void bulb off the edge, it falls off and dies instantly. honor mode doesn't let you get kills this way though.
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>>742288814
Woke absolutely makes games worse, it's intrusive and obstructive by definition. BG3's worst aspects are Aylin, Shart's cloister, and the omnisexual companions.
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>>742288814
No. Woke is always bad. Period
Even it is represented good by a talented authors it is still bad and makes everything worse
A thing woke could be considered satanic in modern day and age. It is a pure evil and you can masquerade evil but it is still evil
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>>742288608
You have a very narrow-minded understanding of what constitutes as an RPG and frankly, you are not exactly bright. Having these kinds of options is great. Also, the player could have failed the athletics check up there.
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>>742288085
I'm not saying you can't have games you prefer over BG3. Or that you can't have complaints about BG3. I myself have complaints about BG3. For instance: as a non DND player it's confusing as all fuck to "build" your character in a way that makes sense, it's hard to know what to pick. rogue feels weak af, compared to a fighter or Barb attacking multiple times a turn with fat swords. And as someone who enjoys a "pure" class, it's somewhat annoying to hear: "ah yes, the best way to make a strong X is to take the first 3 levels in that class and then multiclass something else for the whole rest of the game". Well if i wanna play rogue, that doesn't feel like playing rogue tbhfam.
But even despite all these criticisms, I think it's not right to call BG3 a "bad" game by any means. It's still a good or even very good game. It just has flaws. Like pretty much any great game. Like how haggling is a worthless stat in bloodlines.
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>>742288814
people here will never understand this sentiment, they are chest beating tribals.
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>>742288967
>>742289052
>he says in the thread that's still giving BG3 free publicity 6 years later for adding a fruity vampire from 2010s
go for it anon, keep reposting the chink blade chick for the 9999th time in a row, maybe you'll outpace the bump limit deltarune threads in your own "antiwoke" board lmao
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>>742258412
Being able to slaughter every character with those traits in the game and still get a hero ending is hilariously based.
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>>742288814
We would need to start imo with defining woke. I don't believe being anti-war or anti-nukes is bad.
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>>742289234
>or instance: as a non DND player it's confusing as all fuck to "build" your character in a way that makes sense, it's hard to know what to pick.
I think BG3's normal difficulty is balanced around this exact type of player though to be honest. You can't really brick a character, and respecs are cheap. rather than a tutorial on character building, you're given a relatively safe environment to experiment in. I imagine stuff like even numbers giving +1 to a stat, the math behind attack rolls and AC and the like to be more of a filter for new players than anything. Though the game would benefit from something like a player's handbook resource, allowing you look up classes and seeing what they get per level like how the wiki lays it out.
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>>742286308
I've seen this image a bunch but I've never understood wtf they mean by 'millennial story trying too hard'. Can someone explain?
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>>742289538
is woke*
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>>742288814
Also those 2 examples you gave, Ghostbusters and Bioshock. You'll notice it was done subtly. No character went off in a monologue at any point via self-inserting writer to lecture the audience.
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>>742288967
No nigger. you FIND it intrusive because your faggot ass trained itself to notice even the smallest fucking bit of it, to be annoyed by it. It absolutely can be done very well, and just be fine.
>>742289052
You as well. This is just a list of shit you personally don't fucking like. It doesn't mean it makes the game bad. It just means it has shit you don't fucking like.
I might say "I don't like games where you have a limited inventory", but I would be a faggot of the highest order if I collect pictures of games with limited inventories and then say "fucking limited inventories ruining every god damn game".
Like are you fucking kidding me in with this image. "race mixing"? If you seriously think race mixing makes a game worse, then clearly your problem is just that you're a culture war faggot who can not deal with shit he doesn't like, and not that they're making the game worse. Complaining that you get TOO MUCH CHOICE when making a character? And fucking how long have warriors been depicted with nose rings in fiction and history? Long before "woke" was a thing.
No, clearly this is not a "the industry is the problem" kinda deal, this is a YOU are the problem kinda deal. If you can not deal with seeing anything that doesn't fit your political ideology, then just go back to playing Europa Universalis.
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>>742289234
Everytime I see these min-max builds that require 9+ different class levels I cringe hard, that shit is no necessary at all, I guess if you want to make the ultimate youtube short with most damage or something like that, but just to play and finish the game you don't need that.
Assassin is insane if you learn how the surprise system works, pure Thief is also really strong too since it gets a whole extra bonus action.
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>>742289686
nta but the thing you are complaining about is hamfisted writing. this is a thing that can happen with any ideology and topic. it is not inherent to wokeness. you are conflating the two.
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>>742289593
It's clearly a troll image, anyone saying BG3 has no gameplay, just didn't even touch the game, it's pure gamplay, even the dialogues are integrated into the gameplay.
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>>742289762
Go ahead and tell me Aylin's entire existence isn't the most annoying and obvious DMPC shit in all recent RPGs. Tell me that every companion forming a line to try and fuck you back to back to back every time you rest isn't annoying.
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>>742258294
reddit gay ass fantasy and coomers(both women and men), next question ? it was written by people who start a conversation with
>a-actually

Old fantasy is death and i don't i will see it comeback this decade or the next one
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>>742289765
YWNBAW
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>>742289765
>anons finally understanding why rogue is busted
based
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>>742289856
most people calling the game bad are basing their opinions entirely based on what they see on twitter, and most twitter discourse on the game is waifu fagging.
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>>742288290
Hey nogames, this is the closest that any DND video game has come to replicating actual DND. DND is not a game about spreadsheeting and optimizing; it has never been deep enough for that. DND is precisely about bullshit like your webm. I understand that people who hate this are friendless nogames who have never played tabletop, but you need to understand that this game is literally just not for you. Go play one of the autistic DND spinoff systems.
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>>742289765
Assassin is insane at level 3, same with thief. It's why everyone only dips in rogue, because they stop giving you good shit after 3.
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>>742290128
>and most twitter discourse on the game is waifu fagging.
This is actually 4chan too.
Midwits and golems seem to care mor about gooning to le sexy females than gameplay, music, encounter design or even story.
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>>742289856
So you're saying the millenial story thing isn't supposed to mean anything?
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>>742289829
Right, I meant those two examples don't have that. The perception for some seems to be that "woke", whatever that means, games often have hamfisted writing, whether that's true or not.
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>>742289686
As another anon already said then your problem is hamfisted writing, not woke writing. But also I would like to add: It wasn't exactly "subtly" in Bioshock. Not sure if it was intentionally but I remember someone pointed out that "Andrew Ryan" is an anagram for "We R Ayn Rand", Even if that was not intentional, the names are remarkably similar.
But also I want to say: For the anti-woke crowd, there is no way any "woke" idea can be portrayed at all, without accusations of it being done "ham fisted" or "forced" or being "propaganda". Remember these are types like Stefan Molyneux, Who watch a movie like Wonder Woman, see the man heroically sacrifice himself to save humanity, and then straight faced tell their audience that the reason this just happened was to indoctrinate the audience into accepting "male disposablity" The Idea that there is nothing wrong with any man, dying at any point for any reason, because men are just trash to be thrown away.
For the anti-woke crowd NO amount of wokeness, no matter how subtle, no matter how small, is too much. In the case of Baldurs Gate 3 there is as far as I know, a singular character that is confirmed trans, via an in-game document. The moment this became known outrage started, and people started uploading mods to de-trans the character.
So I believe you if you say you prefer it to be subtle. But the larger anti woke crowd? There's no amount of subtle that is subtle enough. It will always be pointed out, and demanded to be removed.
Because the problem is not actually that it is bad, or makes the game bad, but that this crowd is right wing aligned, and plain doesn't want to see ANY "woke" content, EVER. No matter if it is done good or bad. Which is why they are trying to convince everyone that it is automatically bad.
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Multiclassing is disgusting and degenerate behaviour.
Stick to your fucking class and roleplaying fantasy, not create a mongrel abomination of 10 classes to do 5% more DPR in this singleplayer game.
At least tabletop D&D is competetive so you have a reason to be a degenerate minmaxer.
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>>742290250
and fighter is a great 2 level dip for archery and action surge.
I think that rogue can stay permanently invisible with greater invisibility and stealth stacking and Reliable talent right? outside combat you can deal free sneak attacks every time you hit someone so things break down real fast in act 3
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>>742289874
>Tell me that every companion forming a line to try and fuck you back to back to back every time you rest isn't annoying.
Didn't they confirm ages ago that this was a glitch, and companions got way too horny for you, way too quickly?
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Do you remember the seething?
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>>742289856
I've played balls hurt gay 3. It has gameplay, but its gameplay is bad, boring, primitive and shallow
You would know that if you've actually played some other CRPGs like wotr, rt, underrail, bg1-2, arcanum, taod
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>>742259012

Reminder that Halsin is a self-insert of the most heinous, degenerate sort.
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>>742289874
>Aylin's entire existence isn't the most annoying and obvious DMPC shit in all recent RPGs
the juxtaposition of her self-important attitude with her lack of any prowess is combat is the most unintentionally funny thing I've ever seen in a game
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>>742290682
It's just a matter of them liking you and having talked to you, it's inevitable if you aren't resting literally constantly. The glitch was things like Gale being completely unlcear on when he sets his romance flag on you. Halsin also inevitably thinks you lust after him if you every talk to him during the party, it auto flags him as a romantic interest.
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>>742290247
DnD is woke and gay
CRPGS made it tolerable
3.5 was OK, but 5e is pure cancer

Also Balls Hurt Gay 3 is not even the best 5e representations, it's actually Solasta which is miles better in terms of DnD spirit with actual verticallity, cover mechanic's, wall climbing and meaningful light system
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bg3 currently has 55k players after 3 years of being out
chuds just can't keep losing lmao
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>>742290813
every origin is a self insert. the game is self insert town. Dark Urge is the most self insert of them all. Minthara is the least self insert of them all.
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>>742290639
Thinking about more than 1 thing at a time hurt your brain?
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>>742291006
>No rape option
Safe horny
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>>742290793
RT is so primitive compared to BG3 it's not even funny, it's even TB combat too, so you can't even hide behind RTwP to claim it's better, build theorycrafting is almost meaningless, there's no interaction with the game world at all or most npcs, dialogue is crap.
Imagine if Larian had made a RT game instead, that would've been amazing.
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>>742290991
Top one is neat art.
Reminds me of Golden Axe a bit.
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>>742290247
It is a replica of MODERN DnD which is not good DnD.
Old DnD is good, modern DnD is woke, gay and cringe

It is not the complement to the game you think it is.
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>>742290991
>3.5 was OK
3.5 is gayer than gay, you onyl say that because you don't actually have any experience with the game systems, 5e was a step back in the right direction after the dark ages of 3e+
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It's official. Even guy who helped lead on BG2 is too afraid to follow up on BG3
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>>742258294
>playing on my own
>each companion is a boring, uninteresting, quipping retard that won't shut the fuck up
>play with the voiceless zombies instead
>unfortunately so many quests and stories are locked behind interacting with these bland, lifeless, boring companions
It's a shame. They poured so much into these characters and it was all a waste. I don't care about any of them.
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>>742290547
Another good example for how they lie about "go woke go broke" and just point at woke shit as a quality indicator, when it isn't: Star Wars.
Everyone remembers Star Wars Acolyte, right? It was on every fucking anti-woke youtube channel, how Disney ruined it with "lesbian space witches". This was once again taken as the prime indicator why the show was bad. Because it had these "lesbian space witches". When the reality is: these space witches were not the reason the show sucked. The show sucked because it was a badly written show. You could have made the characters straight male jedi, and it would have sucked. Because the problem is not the wokeness.
For a comparison: take Andor. these same youtube channels that made countless videos about Acolyte, they didn't make countless videos about Andor. Why? Because Andor was a good show. Was this because Andor was less woke? Au contraire mon ami! Andor had lesbian space ANTIFA FIGHTERS! Andor straight up had speeches in it about standing up to facism. Andor was in fact: Woke as all hell. But it was also: a good show. So you didn't get all the youtube channels complaining about the girlboss fighters, about the lesbians, about the anti-authoritarianism, About any of that shit.

Same with Marvel Movies. Captain Marvel? Shitass film. Reason? Badly written. Reason given by chuds? Because feminist, diversity. Woke.
Meanwhile Endgame: far more diverse, far more women, even has a literal "Girls get it done" scene parodied by The Boys later, yet no anti-woke outrage. Why? Because it didn't flop.
That's the whole trick of the anti-woke brigade. Take something that already sucks for whatever reason, find something woke in it, and then pretend like the woke bit is the bit that made it bad. Even though if you imagine the piece of media without the woke parts, in 99% of cases, it would still fucking suck balls.
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>Failfinder
oof
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>>742291031
No, it's just depressing to see peoples Rogue Fighter Paladin Warlock mongrel abominations.
Again, in tabletop D&D it's understandable because it is a highly competetive game but in BG3 you are only hurting yourself and your character by making it into a forgettable munchkin mongrel.
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>>742291186
If you like 5e then Solasta is MILES better game with actual DnD mechanics representation
It has meaningful systems and really respects both the players and the genre.

Balls hurt gay is WORSE than solasta despite solaste being made by 40 people for a bottle of beer and snacks
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>>742290247
Dnd with a good DM doesnt make enemies helpless and will trick the players just as often
>dnd is about circumventing the combat system that takes up over 80% of the rulebook
No you dumbfuck retard
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>>742291054
>the first thing to do after escaping near death in the hells with a time bomb inside your head is to fuck the nearest time bomb
not the brightest idea
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>>742291186
3.5 is peak and you should kys
Instead of fixing full casters like they fixed martials and partial casters towards the end of 3e they just raped everything into the ground for 5e
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>>742291269
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK THESE SHOWS ARE BADLY WRITTEN IN THE FIRST PLACE YOU SMOOTHBRAINED RETARD?

ITS BECAUSE THEY ARE TRYING TO SATISFY LIKE 300 DIFFERENT WOKE AGENDAS WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TRYING NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE

DIVERSITY QUOTAS FORCE THEM TO HIRE UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE TOO, LIKE THE FUCKING DIRECTOR FOR THE GODDAMN SHOW YOU PRESENT AS AN EXAMPLE

HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU BE SO DENSE!?
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>>742291464
Solasta is really cool, I'm looking forward to the full release of the second game.
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>>742290776
honestly they were right, there was no way BG3 can become the new standard in a niche field like CRPGs, which are now mostly indie/A/AA. Just out of scope for many devs. some if not all of the other AAA RPG devs could pivot to making CRPGs proper again, but likely won't.
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>>742291780
talent isn't inherent to one ideology or another though, just look at every daily wire show/movie/book, or Uwe Boll's newest box office puke. you've just been conditioned to blame everything bad in your life on the wokestm because for the class war to be ignored the dumbest people on this planet must be embroiled in something else to keep them busy, thus the creation of the culture war.
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>>742292218
> talent isn't inherent to one ideology or another though
No
All left wing art is mentally ill
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The best art is apolitical.
Obviously, anything woke sucks!
Right-wing games can be fun for 30 minutes but I don't really want to be confronted with the shitty cultural war that has taken over the etire western world in video games or movies.
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>>742291780
Another anon already explained to you that talent isn't inherent to one ideology, so I'm just gonna explain to you how you are wrong about diversity quotas.
And I don't think you're wrong because you're dumb or anything. People have lied to you. The idea that diversity quotas force people to hire unqualified people is laughable. Just think about it. completely unrealistic.
The way a "diversity quota" works is thus:
The problem is: Studies have shown that on identical resumes, the ones with black sounding names get picked less often than white sounding names. I think we can all agree, that this is unfair right? That black sounding names despite equal qualification get picked less often?
In order to try and fix this problem, diversity quotas got introduced. The way they work is that they look at a specific region, and see how many people out of each demographic group are qualified, and then try to match the rates of qualified groups, to the hiring process. What this means in practice is: If there are two EQUALLY QUALIFIED candidates, but the company is below the expected number of minority workers, then the candidate with the minority background gets priority in the hiring. Again: this requires equally qualified candidates. If a white applicant for instance is more qualified, or there are no qualified minority applicants in that round of hiring, then of course the white person still wins out.
However the culture war people, who want you mad at woke, have lied to you, and told you that Diversity Quotas are what enables companies to hire unqualified, illiterate gang-niggers to be pilots 'n sheeeet.
This is strictly not true. It wouldn't work. It is a lied told to you by people who want to manipulate you into being mad at niggers, wokies and the left, instead of people that are actually harming you.
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>>742284106
Not at all, 90% of crpgs have endless mobs of the same enemies for entire long dungeons
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>>742293134
Alright, so, lets talk statistics. Lets say 1% of people are meaningfully talented. So, we want talented people to apply. But then, we need to have equal representation of all races at our business, just like everyone else. So there's a race at, say, 13% of the population. They aren't any more talented than others, still 1% of their population. You NEED to hire them, but their pool of talented people is significantly smaller than other pools, because their pool of people is significantly smaller. This doesn't matter, because you need them no matter what.

And this is how people with 3.2 GPAs get into top schools.
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>>742259012
After this game I understand why women may not like being hit on when you're just nice to someone. Specifically because of him and Gale.
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>>742258294
i liked exploring. didn't care much for the story.
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>>742293134
>I think we can all agree, that this is unfair right?
No, because niggers are often poor fits for reasons that won't appear on a resume and their "qualifications" were(and largely still are) a result of affirmative action.

>manipulate you into being mad at niggers, wokies and the left, instead of people that are actually harming you.
Niggers, wokies, and the left are in fact harming me. And as a group have all expressed a desire to harm me further. Weird how I'm niggers, wokies, and the left are never told to stop hating White men instead of the people that are actually harming them?
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>>742293134
I hope you're baiting because this is the most bog standard, low IQ justification for DEI I've ever seen.
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>>742294116
That's all any defense of it has ever been. It's never actually been something that smart.
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>>742293134
This is all blatantly false and you can just look at the standardized test score difference in minorities vs whites applying and being accepted to college

Youre going to pretend its magically different in business but its not and cant be, because your college is a core part of your qualifications and thus theyll forever be more qualified on paper than they actually are. And of course ontop of it being empirically false youre just a lying faggot because they absolutely will prefer a mediocre minority to pump diversity numbers and feed their white savior/guilt complex
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>>742294476
>It's literally true.
You're literally retarded.
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>>742294476
>identically qualified
But you need the quota, so if you get one qualified applicant and a less qualified applicant, it is more profitable to get the less qualified applicant over the long term. Sure, they need the basic qualifications, but between Hwan Harvardgraduate and Deshawn State2.8. Deshawn gets in.
>but muh legacies
Weird how there are so many statistics covering these discrepancies then huh? I guessevery medical and ivy league school just had an entire battery of black and latino legacies. Shame the Asians never managed this.
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>>742294476
>the top reasons you want to look at are not diversity programs, but at Legacies, donors and Athletic recruitment. Far more people
It doesnt matter if its not the top reason, you said its not happening and it is you lying kike rat.
So they are picking unqualified browns for college and then pretending theyre equally qualified based on that later
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>>742258294
Its a game by faggots for faggots so if you didnt get it grats bro your not a fag I guess at least for now since further testing is always needed
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>>742295517
I wish you the best of luck in convincing people here anon, I really do. the culture war propaganda runs deep
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>>742259012
I kill him

every

time
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>>742295848
So, again, why exactly are people getting into top schools with mediocre grades if the quotas do not matter for the applicants, exactly? You've been stepping around this issue the entire time, and we have statistics for this so we aren't operating in your realm of theory and insistence.
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>>742293134
> Studies have shown that on identical resumes, the ones with black sounding names get picked less often than white sounding names. I think we can all agree, that this is unfair right?
Why the fuck would you ever hire a nigger when you have an equally qualified white or asian?
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>>742295878
It would help if he had literally anything other than his own word that these things simply aren't happening. He can talk a big game about how misinformed his opponents are, but at least they have some data.
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>>742291242
Didn't that guy do an interview on youtube recently where he explained he didn't really like BG3's direction to begin with?

He was probably just being polite while staying clear of stuff that he no longer agrees with.
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>>742258294
I don't get the appeal of posting here instead of in the general.
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>>742296430
I'm still waiting for you to address the statistics about school acceptance, anon.
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>>742296430
>but I'm always of the opinion: "Right wingers aren't just assholes". Many of them have been told lies for decades and decades
I agree with this generally, but I only really try to apply it to interactions I have with people IRL. 4chan in general isn't very receptive to good faith discussion of anything, lots of bad actors mixed in with the ill informed. though I guess leaving it alone is how the pipeline forms so it should be attempted at least.
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>>742296430
You're not a person and in a just world you'd be put in a camp shortly before your execution.
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>>742296430
Address this >>742295880
then, faggot.
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>>742296430
Okay, so do you think that with these quotas, that these qualified washouts will not get hired over better qualified but non-mandated applicants? The pool is depleted more quickly, the washouts come to the surface.
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>>742296595
Where have you posted them?
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>>742295848
> I feel like you're twisting my words. I did not mean to imply that because legacies and donors are the main reason less qualified students get accepted, that therefore diversity programs hire unqualified minority students. This is a dumb gotcha because I was not careful enough with my words, and you know it.
Obviously you're one of the illiterate niggers because thats not what I said at all

Pointing at Legacies is a deflection. Unqualified legacies getting favored isnt relevant to this discussion, the fact is unqualified browns get into college because they have diversity quotas and will decline more qualified white and Asians
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You have been self bumping this thread for 10 hours.
And still, to this day, nobody plays your game.
Not a single gameplay webm.
It's been 3 years, you know.
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>>742296867
It turned into a /pol/ thread
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>>742296867
>Not a single gameplay webm.
there are multiple in this thread bozo
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>>742258294
It's a dating sim/dressup game for women and faggots
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uhhh should I grab it during the sale?
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>>742266083
>I was genuinely not aware of how utterly shit the dungeons & dragons universe was. It's the fantasy world from the imaginings of a 12-year-old girl.
>It's probably the last fantasy setting I'd ever wanna work with.
>
>As to why people like BG3 I can't tell ya. It's equally boring and drab as it is gay.
Most other "universes" steal the basics from DnD realms which steals from tolkien. Essentially though if it's not a sci fi universe it's regurgitated DnD, so anything you think you like is already tainted for you.
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>>742258294
There isnt much its pretty mid even if you ignore the aggressively gay wizard and fag shit everywhere.
Least karlach is hot. I just wish not all the tits looked like implants
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>>742297562
45 dollarydoos is still alot but I paid full price and got 480 hours out of the thing. though I also had a group to play multiplayer with
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>>742297402
You mean the ones that are deliberately made to make the game look like shit that also get posted for three years?
There is only one new one and it's still made by the same guy who tries to showcase the verticality of the levels every time and it still sucks because literally nothing is happening but particles spawn like it's a barrel exploding.
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>>742287110
>the gameplay is incredibly good
Considering the world rejected it in favor of simple turn based 5th edition, i'm gonna say no, no it is not.
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this thread is about a video game not your faggot soapbox
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I enjoyed the gameplay but I very much got the impression that by the time they got to Act 3 some DEI consulting group got involved.
>Acts 1 and 2
>Some references to homosexuality but it's mostly limited to actions the player deliberately chooses to make
>Act 3
>male dwarfs and other characters going on about "MUH HUSBAND!"
>the YOU NEED TO ACCEPT REFUGESS GOYIM plot
There was more but I havnt played it in a while.
I just remember Act 3 being a specific turning point where all the woke bullshit was on full blast.
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>>742258294
You need to have high IQ to get it, bro.
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>>742298561
Oh yeah I forgot
>despite basically never interacting with the druid character at all since he joined my party and keeping him in the camp the entire time now all of a sudden he wants my dick
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>>742297716
Still avoiding the college data huh you kike?

>"53% BELIEVE They Could Be Fired if They Don’t Hire Enough Diverse Employees"
If the hiring managers believe this, then they will act on it and make sure to hire niggers.
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>>742296902
I'm not super familiar with this chart, I would have to look into this. However it is worth saying that statistics like this can easily be misleading on accident. For instance. Could the acceptance rates for non-whites skewer higher, because there are far more whites applying overall, resulting in lower acceptance rates? Did all the schools in this study even have quota programs? How much is the statistic influenced from schools that for instance are in predominantly black areas?
Keep in mind I'm not saying "fuck your statistic it proves nothing!!!" I'm saying: it ain't always as easy as looking at these acceptance numbers. We need to see why exactly these numbers look like this.
A good example for this is a drug related statistics: In the US blacks and whites consume weed at roughly the same rates. Yet black people are 3 to 4 times more likely to be arrested for Marijuana possession than whites, and about 2 times more likely to be convicted.
If you just look at the police statistics, that would indicate that black people commit more weed related crimes than whites. When in reality, they do not. So without further research into the topic, I'm afraid I can't give you an easy answer in either debunking, or confirming this statistic.
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>>742258294
For dnd nerds its as close as you can get to simulating a tabletop campaign. I like how the game gives you freedom to solve problems without just being a murder hobo.

To normalfags, i dont know. Maybe the waifus and husbandus? Maybe just cattle mentality of "I MUST enjoy the popular thing"
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>>742298561
True
Sweet Baby inc certainly had something to do with act 2 and 3
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>>742258294
I don't get the appeal of Witcher 3 but a shit ton of people loved it. It just isn't for me I guess.
I fucking loved BG3 too which was nice because I was expecting it to merely be "okay" after DOS2.
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>>742299012
>dnd nerds
Read DnD nerds were playing 3.5 before Baldur's Gate 3 was even a rumor
You're talking about Critical Role secondaries
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>>742285167
Random generic encounters can work if the system is built for them, they make sense in the resource management context of old school dungeon crawling, but now we can easily make fully realized 3D environments with patrolling monsters and different kinds of interactivity, so it's more interesting to follow that path.
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>>742299203
>3.5
>"Real DnD"
nta but I've been playing since 2nd edition.
BG3 is pretty great and the best "D&D" experience we've had so far.
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>>742299203
You realize how many oldschool D&D nerds fucking hated 3rd edition, right? It "diablo-fied" D&D.
5e isn't perfect, but it's a step in the right direction but unfortunately still has a lot of "3e-isms". Better direction is go more in the OSR direction, but WotC gonna WotC.
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>>742299203
3E had an even worse reputation than 5E has now, AD&D was the best editiion
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>>742299549
Better direction is go more in the OSR direction, but WotC gonna WotC.
They'll never do that. The only people left buying 5e crap don't want Dungeons and Dragons, they want Tieflings and Teatime (but they will never ever ever EVER move to an actual roleplay heavy system because they'd rather kill themselves than stop playing what's popular)
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>>742298747
If you talk to him at all during the act 1 post-grove party, he gets a flag set forever that you hit on him and want his cock.
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>>742300034
There's still some of that crowd. Some books from Luke Gygax for the Greyhawk setting are coming out soon. Whoever is currently leading the D&D brand seems to be trying to patch things up, no clue how effective it'll be though.
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AD&D IS D&D, everything after is fanfic
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>>742284637
>random encounters while traveling in BG1 and 2 are similar, you kind of just watch your party steamroll the bandits/monsters and move on
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So why does Irenicus look like a Mortal Kombat ninja sprite?
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>>742300531
So these are the absolute shitniggers who took RTWP away from me.
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>>742299780
>was the best editiion
No
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When you trace the story of dnd from its roots in wargaming the 2nd and then the dark ages of 3rd and 4th editions, you start to appreciate 5E a lot more.
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>>742300531
I can understand that sentiment for the harder more complex encounters if you're bad at the genre, but random bandit ambushes when traveling literally play themselves. at worst you have to tell a wizard to run away from something coming up from behind
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>>742291242
The entire studio is if like humble brag is a person. The one guy kept saying how he wouldn't go to any more award ceremonies to humble brag too lmao
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>>742291242
Ohlen's a smart dude.

>>742296197
You can disagree with a direction while still recognizing the sheer amount of effort put into a project and the foundation it's built on.
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fighters exist only to guard the chad MC mage
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>>742283091
I did a 180 hour playthrough on tactical as a hexblade warlock 12 levels, some months ago. and it was the most fun i have had in this game. Just grab shadowblade asap and resonance stone in the end of act 2 and rape everything with psychic damage and go all in on the illithid powers. Real power fantasy stuff fr lil bro.
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>>742305082
I find Fighters way more fun in BG3 than standard 5e DnD. They are able to jump crazy distances specced right and are able to get all over the battlefield quickly laying waste to everything by a ways into Act 2 and especially in Act 3.
In standard DnD, you spend so much time just trying to get where you want while the wizard is nuking everything already.
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>>742307027
True, they really improved martial classes in general with these mechanics and you get a lot of special arrows and grenades so you always have a source of elemental damage, only reason to bring casters is for buffs.



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