How is your 2.1 Factorio holding up?
>>742262739Its not, i no longer have time to sink hours upon hours into building factories
I’m hundreds of hours into my first 2.0 space age playthrough and I’ve finished Aquilo and I just have to build a ship that will get to the edge. I’m thinking about upgrading but I’m worried the new input/output will break all my Gleba shit
>>742262865why>>742262940im still on vulcanus and im scared about going to gleba..
>>742262997Dont be, gleba is the best and most fun of all the new planets.People cry about it because unlike before where you can work it out as you go, you need to figure out what you are doing before you start everything up or it will stall.And they are too low IQ to do this.
>>742263341im not the smartest cookie in the jar but i will try!!
>>742263341>they are too low IQ to do thisWhy do people say thisEven the biggest giga retard can do anything with bots. Allowing logistic bots to move intermediaries was a huge blunder by the devs, it completely trivializes the game for anything but megabases.
>>742263660isn't the throughput of bots very low compared to belts'?
>>742263660bots is fulgora not gleba, you've mixed up your bait.
>gleba
>>742263729It really doesn't matter for a normal game, bots are cheap you can easily build thousands of them.>>742263738Bots work for both, Aquilo is the only iffy one.
>>742263975stop already
>>742262739I have no free time left for factorio. It's gotten boring anyway, it's basically a reskin of programming.
>>742263902horrifying on the plus side tho, no more mosquitoes in that area
The problem I had with Gleba was finding a place to build the base, it’s either giant swaths of purple with no green, or vise versa, and the border areas have shit land, so eventually I just said fuck it and built trains and used circuits to sync deliveries. Also I have artillery set up but if stompers attack at the current evolution I’ll probably be overrun
I've played maybe ~80 hours over the last year or so, but I feel like I really struggle to get into and through the "midgame". Does anyone have any tips on how to best manage organizing things or taking advantage of trains? I usually get to a point where I'm neck deep in spaghetti and desperately need to reorganize, but get a little overwhelmed and indecisive around how to best use trains and approach logistics. Do you prefer to smelt on site? Do you bring raw ore to a smelting location? Do you have trains feed other trains? Different train systems per resource?
>>742266160Smelting on a smelting location is probably simpler but the fun of the game is doing it your way.Trains bring in ore to smelters -> plates come out and are consumed by assemblers. Just make a main bus dude.
>>742262739I started a new save and I completely forgot how much the early game sucks so now I'm just gonna rush building a spaceplatform and set up base on Vulcanus
>>742263660I didn't make it to bots
I already finished spaceage fully. Currently play gregtech new horizons to further fuel my factory autism
>>742266364I've been using a main bus, but I typically end up running out of space. It's simple enough to clear out room or make space for the bus itself, but I think I struggle mostly with finding efficient or scalable ways to introduce new mining and resource spots into the bus. I should probably make bigger sections dedicated to each kind of resource downstream of the bus, but it feels daunting. Doesn't help that I typically can only dedicate an hour or so to a session, so it can feel tough to pick up where I left off or get significant work done
>>742262739I literally just finished Space Age after two months of playing it after work nonstop.I'm not coming back for a while, although the planets being visible from space sounds neat.
>>742266409Going back to the game sucks so much when you know how good lategame is>Oh great burner machines>Yay I move like a lazy elephant>Oh boy slowly going through basic science>Is dat a COAL POWERED STEAM ENGINE!? Yes it is, enjoy having that shit pile power your base for hours.
Gleba is so cash. I did it after fulgora, so my solution was to make a giant circular main bus and then use splitter input and output weighting where items enter the bus to keep new product moving onto the bus while old overflow product goes to a breakdown depot. For iron and copper I just spun up/down production facilities based on my buffer stocks.Overproduction and spoilage are non-issues if you just remember none of that matters if you keep backup systems in place to just destroy it.This has the side effect of creating a massive spore cloud, which means you will have lots to shoot at, but thats just more ways to waste the production you dont really need at any given point.Fucking amazing. Filling up belts for no better reason then to have it all crushed and burned. Not even for science. Thousands of items per second burning and smashing because that is funny.
>>742266667You need to learn to set up a good two lane train system because once it's down expanding it to other resource patches is pretty trivial. Have trains bring in raw ore, smelt it in your base, feed your bus with said plates. A patch of ore completely covered in miners will get you pretty far. Keep it simple, have each distant ore patch have a station, assign a train to rotate between picking up at said ore patch station and dropping off at the dropoff point before your smelters.
Is it just me or is nilaus fucking infuriating to watch?
>>742266667i recommend working in right angles, so all your train stations are in a line north to south, and they put ore onto a line that runs east to west, and then the furnace stacks output plates north to south, and then subfactories split off the bus east to west, ect, so if you need more stations, just build more north/south, and such. youll still have space constraints so ultimately it is always going to be a matter of giving yourself way more space than you think you need between everything. you may also want to set some objectives beforehand like science per minute so you can calculate how many buildings/stations/furnaces/whatever you need beforehand to take some pain off scaling
>>742267089Is that coal? AIEEE SAVE ME BITERMAN
>>742268053You should have harvested more vespene gas
I'm too dumb for this game. I got to yellow on my own in base game before the big update but then blue chips and multiple trains on one track and signaling just fucking raped my brain and I gave up
>>742268170Im just fucking with em, I have a railgun so they are nothing more than chickens to meWorking through the quality phase now and I hate space ships so I dont care about the quality nerfs, never made one. I would rather just take over vulcanus
>>742268436>signaling just fucking raped my brainhttps://wiki.factorio.com/Elevated_rail_(research)they added this item so you can just never use train signals
>>742262739what actually changed?the changelog is too tldr and none of it looked gamechanging
>>742267628he forgets how to speak every other sentence it gets annoying
>>742269317It changed little>QoL, mostly involving pipes and now you can make retarded curvy train stations if you wish>Planets are now visible in space, so the platforms don't live in a big void anymore>New animations for a bunch of buildings, assemblers look too busy frankly and I hate the new refinery that looks like some steampunk retard touched it, but the rocket silo now looks neat>Some optimization>Space platforms can now deliver to space platforms, which is pretty handy.
>>742269557people started another playthrough for this?
>>742262997just bot gleba and send all spoilage to burners. small modular builds, at least until you are scaling insanely
>>742269763>logistic cheststhis kinda feels dishonest..
>>742267437>>742267676thanks, lads. I appreciate it. I'll give it a try. I'm tempted to play around with trains and stuff in freeplay to not worry about biters or anything, but it feels a little like cheating to not work and learn through the real game. guess i'm a bit autist schizo in that way
>>742269893They're in the game for a reason. Are you the type of person who thinks using a shield in Dark Souls is cheating?
>>742268053
I think I have to finish my current run and then drop factorio forever. At this point there is NO way I can go back to default player speed, no construction bots, and no jetpack
>>742270719
>>742270789if you want a new run just install this mod to help kickstart your factoriohttps://mods.factorio.com/mod/FasterStart
>>742269893just build whatever works. you will either finish the game, abandon the game, or refactor your entire factory to megabase once you stop being a noob
>>742270724haha benis
>>742264008always has been
>>742272628nice nuclear setup anon i really like it
Gleba killed the game.
fish
>>742269396Is this the only way to play factorio? I don't want to build the same shit i did 2 years ago
>>742262739>Engineer: *sees two inserters tugging at each other*
>>742274503It's one of design patterns, so to speak. Once you get to medium-sized base, you need to organize it one way or another to not get entangled in spaghetti. If you want to do something different, go past the bus towards city blocks.
>>742269763The longer you put off using belts properly instead of putting on diaper using logistic chests for spoilage you're just going to suffer more from it.Learn the fucking planet, retard. It's the easiest one in the whole expansion for a reason.
trying too hard
>>742274503Generally a bus is just the simplest way to handle a factory to beat a game. You can do like city blocks and put everything on trains, or go nuts with a MASSIVE spagetti monstrosity. Put everything on logi bots is also doable. There are multiple ways to do things in factorio but in general its mostly just a trade off between ease, extensibility, and efficiency. Main buses are just RETARDIDLY easy to do and can be expanded very easy as well. They dont scale insanely hard but for the purposes of your average player, beating the game, its more than enough and again braindead easy.
>>742263447Nonsense. You're a marieposter, so you're clearly very high IQ.
All solutions with the same throughput are equal
>>742269893>whole point of the game is to research tech and unlock things that let you perform you previous tasks far better and more efficiently>"Um no, that's kinda cheating tho..."
Started a marathon deathworld for the first time. Humble starter base, close to flamer turrets. Can't wait to test their new angled options.
>>742274335what mod is this
>>742269763>Gleba is the best planet!!!
>>742262997Gleba is super easy if you just make science packs and feed it everything else needed from other planets. Its literally just a biochamber each to>crush yamako>crush jellynut>make bioflux>make nutrients from bioflux>breed eggs>make science packOnce you have a good handle on that, you can start thinking of making rocket components planetside. Or just ignore it and ship them from Vulcanus, lol.
>>742274503Nope, not in space age. You should be piping liquid metals with foundries and producing components onsite.
>>742262997Gleba easily has some of the best tech unlocks, and it's definitely the most satisfying to see everything you put together working perfectly so it never stalls
>>742285104Its, odd, it has some really good stuff, but vulkanus for me has priority because its so easy to produce massive amounts of shit there. And after that fulgora, because I love the fucking item shredder and EM plants for extra chips. So even if gleba is really fun to work on, it always ends up being my last planet.
>>742285412I normally end up going to it first since to me, it feels the easiest to become self-sufficient first, and has a pretty low bar of what's needed to setup initially.
>>742262739On hold waiting on mods. I could fix them myself but I'm playing other things for now.
>>742264374>no more mosquitoes in that areaI'd like to order a million sky spiders for Upstate NY please. Then our summers will be perfect.
>>742262739It's not. I want to play, but I'll likely wait until it's released as stabe. Hopefully will be perfect for my september two weeks off work.
>>742272628>no green lights
Pretty good. I don't like to rush.
Gleba is easy but using logistic bots for spoilage or nutrients is just as stupid as using them for feeding copper wire to green circuit assemblers.Nigga what are you doing
>Bro you gotta use filtered splitters for each quality type!no
I wanna try another run but I hate the starting game. I'm not even talking about pre-bots, I mean the burner stage. It doesn't last that long but it makes me wanna shove a toothpick in my cock out of boredom.
>>742290265There's gotta be some kind of quick start mod you could use. Unless you're in the desert on deathworld there would be very little actual difference if you started with most of red finished.
>>742290140
>>742263660Their qualityslop casino bullshit becomes nearly impossible without bots.
>>742269689Not really. Its just an excuse to play again
>>742262739I'm waiting for the full release of 2.1 because I haven't forgotten the optimal way to do everything yet
>>742290394>>742270910
trashi sushi
>>742290394It's a good solution I just wish there was a way that didn't involve just getting all the shit for free
>>742266592How far are you? Early LuV here, almost a year in.
>>742282557looks like maraxis
>>742290140if it works it worksyou're still the gayest man on fulgora though
>>742301474Any time I spawn shit into a game I throw the same amount of resources required for it down a hole later. Just sacrifice a bunch of iron and copper plates later on by shooting a box.
